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Microsoft is rumored to be working on a Surface Phone and HP already showed off the X3 http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&eSpotName=Elite-x3/ so there are possibilities with the dockable phones soon.

Cheap commodity hardware from China is cheap commodity hardware from China regardless of who you buy it from. It's all ODM as none of the big IT consulting firms designs their own hardware anymore. It's all re-branded SuperMicro or Intel reference designs.

I.e., all the HP Integrity system boards, including the Itanium-based ones, are Intel reference designs?

(Obviously, neither Oracle's SPARC machines, nor IBM's Power ISA or z/Architecture machines, are based on Intel reference designs, as Intel don't make SPARC, POWER, or z/Architecture processors.)

(I'm ruling SuperMicro out here, as I rather doubt they make any Itanium, SPARC, Power ISA, or z/Architecture boards.)

This is one of the key features of HP's much-hyped "machine": direct, on-chip optical interconnects.

(Frankly HP's marketing continues to suck: when I read the hype about the "machine" I just yawned. But then I ran into a friend who had moved to HP to work on it and learned that it has some pretty cool features. I guess things like optical interconnect and massive shared address space just don't make interesting news stories.)

Some stuff on their optical work: http://www.hpl.hp.com/techrepo...

They want there bugs back. This issue has been haunting HP printers for decades.

ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/networkin...
https://www.google.com/search?...

If you look at the HP page for the Spectre X2, it does say it's ready for use with "active pens with Wacom technology". So, you can implement something similar with a separately-purchased stylus. Not ideal, but doable.

AMD does fine at low power, at least after Carrizo release:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/...

E.g. in HP EliteBook 725 G3, 7+ hours on battery:
http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/...

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/softw...

I spent about 6 months working on this product last year:

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/campa...

HP's RGS is really excellent remote graphics solution, suitable for the likes of film production studios and CAD/CAM design firms - at 4K resolutions and 30FPS video. It all sports support for a plethora of input devices from Wacom tablets to speciality LogiTech mice. To top it off, its bidirectionally compatible with Windows and Linux and Mac can be coaxed into working as well.

I wonder what's left of HP that anyone should bother?

HP is currently the largest vendor for my employer, we buy a ton of servers. HP also has "Moonshot", the workload-optimized blade project. And they have a private cloud offering.

Cisco used to be our largest vendor (switches, specialty gear, UCS). For the time being, HP is very competitive on servers and switches.

The full report is linked in the HP news article. Tl;dr - http://go.saas.hp.com/l/28912/...

Is Edge going to be portable to non Windows operating systems like GNU/Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris, OS X, HP-UX, OpenServer X, Haiku OS, AIX, Android and Firefox OS?

You must feel so smart listing all those UNIX operating systems. You know so many!

Is Edge going to be portable to non Windows operating systems like GNU/Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris, OS X, HP-UX, OpenServer X, Haiku OS, AIX, Android and Firefox OS?

At first I thought they might be doing some flavor of Computational RAM, but they did something rather different. The system is analog. And it is suggested memristors could provide useful in implementation of similar systems.

Just a couple sections I found interesting FTA:

As we discuss in the following paragraphs, the machine we built is analog and hence would be scalable to very large numbers of memprocessors only in the absence of noise or using some error-correcting codes. This problem derives from the fact that in the present realization, we use the frequencies of the collective state to encode information, and to maintain the energy of the system bounded, the amplitudes of the frequencies are dampened exponentially with the number of memprocessors involved. However, this latter limitation is due to the particular choice of encoding the information in the collective state and could be overcome by using other realizations of digital memcomputing machines and using error-correcting codes. For example in (8), two of the authors (F.T. and M.D.) proposed a different way to encode a quadratic information overhead in a network of memristors that is not subject to this energy bound.

These properties ultimately derive from a different type of architecture: the topology of memcomputing machines is defined by a network of interacting memory cells (memprocessors), and the dynamics of this network are described by a collective state that can be used to store and process information simultaneously. This collective state is reminiscent of the collective (entangled) state of many qubits in quantum computation, where the entangled state is used to solve efficiently certain types of problems such as factorization (9). Here, we prove experimentally that such collective states can also be implemented in classical systems by fabricating appropriate networks of memprocessors, thus creating either linear or nonlinear combinations out of the states of each memprocessor. The result is the first proof of concept of a machine able to solve an NP-complete problem in polynomial time using collective states.

In summary, we have demonstrated experimentally a deterministic memcomputing machine that is able to solve an N P -complete problem in polynomial time (actually in one step) using only polynomial resources. The actual machine we built clearly suffers from technological limitations, that impair its scalability due to unavoidable noise. These limitations derive from the fact that we encode the information directly into frequencies, and so ultimately into energy. This issue could, however, be overcome either using error correcting codes or with other UMMs that use other ways to encode such information and are digital at least in their input and output. Irrespective, this machine represents the first experimental realization of a UMM that uses the collective state of the whole memprocessor network to exploit the information overhead theoretically introduced in (8). Finally, it is worth mentioning that the machine we have fabricated is not a general purpose one. However, other realizations of UMMs are general purpose and can be easily built with available technology (22–26). Their practical realization would thus be a powerful alternative to current Turing-like machines.

There *was* a thing called VMS . http://h71000.www7.hp.com/comm...

It isn't anywhere close to impossible.

System 76 has laptops.

Dell has Linux laptops.

HP has linux laptops.

And that's just the first three places I looked. On Dell and HP, I just went to their website and typed "linux laptop." Prices start under $300. How is that impossible?

But in the real world, this is a silly question right from the start. Who ever uses the OS that came pre-installed on their laptop? The first step is always to wipe the OS and get rid of all the pre-installed malware. Then you install the OS of your choice clean and fresh. That's true for Linux, Windows, or whatever.

So if you prefer Asus or Toshiba or Lenovo or whoever, by all means, buy one and wipe it and install the OS of your choice.

No argument there, but an entry level PC with no peripherals is $400 (or less) - sounds like a hefty

Ya know. I could have said that a new Mac mini with 10.8 GHz CPU, 16 TB of RAM and an infinite-sized quantum storage crystal cost two dollars, and your type would say "Is that all?" I can buy a computer with those specs for fifty cents.

Haven't we been down this road enough times?

And as for your incredulity at a 1.4 GHz, Dual-Core i5, let's take a look around:

Newly-offered Surface 3: $499. Intel Atom processor (and a whopping 64 GB of Flash). They won't even ADMIT the CPU clock speed!. Windows 8.1 (I think)

HP 20Z all-in-one PC: $369 (on sale). 1.4 GHz AMD CPU (um, slower than Intel). Windows 8.1

I can go on and on; but the bottom line is, yes, Virginia, people sell computers with 1.4 GHz CPUs (and worse!) all-the-time.

And the REAL bottom-line? They all still run WINDOWS, and isn't that the point?

Hmmm, after searching "Asset Insight", it looks like they're using the brand name for a service now. http://www8.hp.com/h20195/V2/G...

Ummm... I have no idea what you consider equivalent of a "unix workstation" but most VFX facilities are nearly exclusively linux and they just buy commodity workstations from companies like:

Boxx http://www.boxxtech.com/
HP http://www8.hp.com/us/en/campa...
Dell http://www.dell.com/us/busines...

etc..

"Workstations" are generally servers in a desktop case these days. See:
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/campa...
http://www.dell.com/us/busines...
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/w...

Dual Xeon processors, lots of RAM, capacity for lots of disks & PCIe cards.

(posting AC because mod points)

Hell, I'll shill all the way and point out that the very decent HP Stream 7 tablet is available for $80 at:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-HP...

I bought one for my wife a few months ago, and it's amazing at that price point. Google Chrome for Metro^H^H^HModernUI works great, and I have some of the less-demanding games from her Steam library working on its microSD card.

I'm actually looking for an Android tablet someday to replace my old and mostly decrepit Viewsonic G-Tablet (running VeganTab), and there aren't many great options any more now that Google dropped the ~$220 Nexus 7... it's like you have to spend real money on these things now just because everyone is trying to compete at the iPad's price point.

I can see me surrounding myself with an array of $80 Win8 tablets, each running a separate app/page (since supposedly they don't multitask well with "only" 1GB RAM). Or inevitably I'm sure someone will figure out how to bootstrap Debian on them eventually. Oh, look, eventually happened last month : http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/W...

For someone whose game preferences are not dominated by PS4 exclusives or PC exclusives, how does this build compare technically to the PS4?

It doesn't. It's probably midway between a PS3 and PS4. Its like my computer, the base configuration was no match for the PS3, upgraded it's better but no match for the PS4.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfr...

I first added in a GT220, and eventually upgraded the thing to a quad core 2.8GHz Phenom II, 4GB of RAM (it's the max it can handle) and a GT640 rev2.

Basically, it can play Fallout 3 slightly better than the PS3 (main difference is resolution/detail/lighting, VATS is slightly smoother on the PS3 and sound is slightly better on the PS3), but can't play War Thunder as well as the PS4. Now if I was to put a GT970 in it, then it would be somewhat more competitive with the PS4....but that alone is over $300....and I have a PS4. All my PC needs to do is handle my generic computing tasks, and Second Life. (which is pretty much the ONLY reason I have a GT640 in it). If it wasn't for SL, I could make do with less, in fact I probably wouldn't have upgraded the CPU, power supply and GPU.

ECC is no longer a "business part". For example, HP ProLiant Microservers (Gen7 and Gen8) are often recommended for setting up a home NAS. They are small and relatively cheap computers (I got my Gen7 for about 180 USD ). See the specs (PDF).

Full details about how the 2010 patch failed are now available. Looks like they tried to do a whitelist check for approved CPL files, but it didn't work. There's a video too, although a video showing how to use regedit is only so useful. http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/H...

If you try to regulate schematics, people can just download plans from some P2P service. Now you guns that are made from lower grade materials AND questionable designs.

Yesterday it was alcohol prohibition. Today it is drug prohibition. Tomorrow it will be homemade gun parts. You can try to regulate away these things, but once you can easily make them in your own home, it's a losing battle.

This isn't really a new problem. It's just that then, it was 2-d printing. They'll probably implement the same sort of solutions they did the last time, like intercepting a print job when it detects a part suspiciously similar to a critical gun part, like a lower reciever.

Frankly, I would be suprised if the ATF hasn't already started looking into how to implement these sort of restrictions.

https://sprout.hp.com/us/en/ This is what you need: a touch/draw surface for you to draw on, but overlaid with a video projection of what everyone else is drawing.

Actually, it isn't if the compiler can prove that the layout is not visible outside of the compilation unit.

Ok, that's fair. You also need to ensure its memory image isn't visible to, say, a char*. (That pesky char* exemption in the standard that allows you to write memcpy and memmove is no friend to alias analysis.)

For example, if the address of one of these structs is never taken, then the struct never need live in memory even, so its layout is irrelevant. If addresses do get taken but you can find all the uses of those addresses, then yes, you could play games with the layout if it was impossible for the program to notice. That's perhaps a stronger criteria than compilation unit boundary, though.

What's the justification for compilation unit boundary? It seems like you could expose the layout of the struct (and therefore any compiler shenanigans) through other means within a compilation unit. offsetof comes to mind. :-)

My initial gut reaction is that nearly any interesting data structure wouldn't qualify for this optimization. :-) Sounds like your data matches.

It's much more interesting in environments with on-the-fly compilation, because then you can adapt data structures to use.

Cool. That reminds me of an experiment I heard about at HP. They implemented a PA-RISC to PA-RISC dynamic translator that used run-time information to reoptimize the code. The overall speedup (including the cost of the translator) was in the 5% - 10% range. Here's the paper.

Even then, you can do it outside of the compiler (for example, the NeXT implementations of the Objective-C collection classes would switch between a few different internal representations based on the data that you put in them).

I suppose you could do that in C++ with template specialization. In fact, doesn't that happen today in C++11 and later, with movable types vs. copyable types in certain containers? Otherwise you couldn't have vector< unique_ptr< > >. Granted, that specialization is based on a very specific trait, and without it the particular combination wouldn't even work.

In theory, you could also specialize based on, say, sizeof( item ). I suppose that then becomes an ABI issue with the C++ standard library. Bleh.

I have a love-hate relationship with C++. :-)

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/produ...

That was easy.

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/products/oas/product-detail.html?oid=403895

What about stuents that have a Mac or Linux at home?

For that matter, what about students that have only smartphones, tablets running a smartphone operating system, and game consoles? Such households exist. A $200 laptop that includes a copy of Windows is no more expensive than some textbooks that college students are required to buy.

The rumors of the death of netbooks may have been premature.

If it hadn't been for the hp garage there might not have been the tech to make the Apple garage possible.

And if it weren't for IBM and others, there never would have been an HP. Your point is?

If it hadn't been for the hp garage there might not have been the tech to make the Apple garage possible.

I had some opportunity to work with HP-UX (built GnuMake on it for a in-company build/QA system), it was always an interesting and very different beast. Is it still around in any form?

Yes.

How about the method of selection of the Doge of Venice? A mix of super-majority voting (to force compromise), combined with selection by lot (to break voting blocks). Works a bit like evolution by natural selection. Each round effectively selects better candidates for the next. Almost guarantees a wise and benevolent dictator.

I think the coming Windows laptops with Atom processors are going to obsolete the whole reason for getting a ChromeBook. When you can get a laptop that runs full Windows for $200-$250 and get's 8 hours of battery life. To make it clear, these are full Windows 8 Laptops, not Windows RT. I'm waiting for the reviews to come out to see how they will perform in real life, and how durable they are, but I'm definitely looking into getting a couple for my kids if they are decent. Even in grades 2 and 3, all their homework is done on the computer. So I either have to get them computers, or let them use mine. I'd much rather let my kid have their own computer.

Ok here is the bloated form for people like you who can't seem to operate a search engine and need every term explained to them or directly linked.

Docker (which is an open platform for developers and sysadmins to build, ship, and run distributed applications. Consisting of Docker Engine, a portable, lightweight runtime and packaging tool, and Docker Hub, a cloud service for sharing applications and automating workflows, Docker enables apps to be quickly assembled from components and eliminates the friction between development, QA, and production environments. As a result, IT can ship faster and run the same app, unchanged, on laptops, data center VMs, and any cloud) isn't niche. It is one of the core technologies for DevOps (a concept dealing with, among other things: software development, operations, and services. It emphasizes communication, collaboration, and integration between software developers and information technology (IT) operations personnel) which is designing application infrastructures where IT provides a platform for in-house and integrate micro-services (that are small, independent processes communicating with each other using language-agnostic APIs to form complex applications) rather than providing monolithic applications (single-tiered software applications in which the user interface and data access code are combined into a single program from a single platform) to departments. Many PaaS (Platform as a Service, a category of cloud computing services that provides a computing platform and a solution stack as a service) systems are based on Docker particularly Helion, CenturyLink, Rackspace its a big player for AWS...

So much easier to understand right?

I mean this : http://www8.hp.com/hpnext/post...

HP-21C Manuals? Here's the result of 2 seconds on Google:

http://www.appraisalinstitute....

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/...

http://www.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c...

HP-21C Manuals? Here's the result of 2 seconds on Google:

http://www.appraisalinstitute....

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/...

http://www.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c...

but then there is the fact that most RISC's use same registers for both FPU and integer

With the minor exceptions of Alpha, PA-RISC 1.x and 2.0, POWER/PowerPC/Power ISA, MIPS, and SPARC.

but then there is the fact that most RISC's use same registers for both FPU and integer

With the minor exceptions of Alpha, PA-RISC 1.x and 2.0, POWER/PowerPC/Power ISA, MIPS, and SPARC.

but then there is the fact that most RISC's use same registers for both FPU and integer

With the minor exceptions of Alpha, PA-RISC 1.x and 2.0, POWER/PowerPC/Power ISA, MIPS, and SPARC.

Can anyone list some applications still being run by OpenVMS?

IDX. The jewel written in MUMPS that runs on OpenVMS.

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/open...

HP ink jet printer heads heat the ink up to temperatures 7 times hotter than the the sun. It doesn't end up burning a hole in the earth's crust though, since it only lasts 2 microseconds.
http://h20423.www2.hp.com/prog...

It doesn't take a lot of energy to heat something up really fast as long as it's really low mass, like air.
In fact, the quicker you heat something up the less energy is required, since there is less time for the heat to dissipate during the heating process.

FreeDOS gets used in several pre-built computers. HP is one example - HP EliteBook comes with a FreeDOS option. And Dell used to do this, don't know if they still do. There are a bunch of vendors (especially in Europe and Asia) that pre-install FreeDOS, too.

Alas, these pre-built computers have FreeDOS on them mainly as a clever way to get around a licensing agreement with Microsoft. I understand that Microsoft put a term in their Windows OEM license that prohibits system builders from selling "naked" computers - systems without operating systems. If you want to get the huge discount on Windows OEM licenses, so you can sell pre-built computers with Windows already installed, you may not also sell these "naked" computers.

But there are plenty of people out there who don't want an operating system pre-installed (I presume these people are like me who prefer free software, and who would install a Linux distribution on their new computer) so system builders started shipping computers with FreeDOS pre-installed. I think the premise is that customers will reformat the drive and install Linux anyway, but the system builder didn't technically sell a "naked" computer.

I actually think this is very clever and I like the idea. A few users do keep FreeDOS installed on their system; occasionally I get emails from people who decided to keep FreeDOS installed (and probably dual-boot into Linux) so they could use FreeDOS to play old DOS games.

Double precision floating point hardware, designed to do things like physics simulation. This thing has no ECC and some other similar tradeoffs, so it's fairly cheap at only 3k.

Here's an example of a non-ghetto version: http://h30094.www3.hp.com/prod...

Agreed.

You can still get Apache for HPUX, fercryinoutloud.

For anyone with ILO2-equipped servers that have frozen due to heartbleed vulnerability scanning, HP has released a (thankfully) free update to the ILO2 firmware to work around the issue. A physical power cycle of each server is required before the update may be applied, however. http://h20566.www2.hp.com/port...

My god let VMS die already.

Not any time soon: http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/r...

VMS is to HP iron what Z/OS is to IBM mainframes. VMS will die when HP exits this market. And given that most of the VMS customers are banks and financial institutions, their customers aren't running out of money, and aren't looking to migrate to other platforms.

Maybe he was looking for an answer more like, this. It would be far faster and cheaper. You really can't beat 14 cpm (certificates per minute) with the more traditional routes.