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Like this vigilant driver completely aware of his surroundings.

Tesla’s marketing says you can sleep while the car drives. So it must be full self driving capababe. What possible incentive would musk have to lie?

It would be much safer for them to open fire on you en-mass from several hundred feet away because they mistook you for a dangerous criminal. This is not a hypothetical straw man argument, here is one example that I happen to recall off the top of my head...
https://jalopnik.com/lapd-to-w...

Here’s another satisfied customer.

That'd be awesome.
Who has a P100D to drag a V8 hemi sideways out of the spot?
864 ft-lb should do it

Another shit Tesla burst into flames again.

No teslas employees say you can sleep behind the wheel.

A great example of the above was the attack series launched by UAW-tied organization "Reveal". First they alleged a high injury rate (with a bunch of BS about beeping forklifts and yellow caution tape being banned) - but Tesla rebutted it by pointing out that they're using old data, that they're around the industry average now, and that the plant used to be the highest injury-rate plant in the US before they bought it. So Reveal switched gears to arguing that they were "hiding" injuries off the books. They even got CAL-OSHA to investigate, and the latter's investigation concluded just recently: the biggest problem they found was an extension cord to a fan that could pose a trip hazard, and one injury whose date was wrong. Vs. its competitors which actually have been found to be hiding injuries off the books, and fined.

Each time the Reveal reports came out, the news was picked up widely. The actual facts? Crickets. Scandal sells. "Wait, there wasn't actually a scandal" doesn't.

Yes, it literally is.

Not sure why they do so many crappy knock offs then.

For example, here's a bunch of cars.

Facts say otherwise.

Tesla's are built to bargain basement quality levels.

There's no evidence they used it for years. Geekwire says it was a "website and planned business called TitleTown Tech Solutions about a month before the Packers’ announcement."

If you actually use it for years, like the Nissan Computer guy you have a much better case.

Getting 5 stars isn’t hard. A shit ton of cars are five Star safety rates. The difference is those other cars don’t have their bumpers falling off.

I mean, I assume you're equally diligent about reporting fires in gasoline cars, right? I totally remember your coverage of, say, the million BMWs that were recalled in 2017 due to over 40 parked cars - not cars involved in accidents, but parked cars - spontaneously bursting into flames, right? That's just up to 2017. And they keep getting more fires and keep issuing more recalls this year. The BMW fires have been particularly prolific in South Korea, where 11 burst into flames in July alone.

Want something more recent? Just seven days ago, Ford recalled two million trucks due to fire risks. GM's last major fire-related recall was a couple years, their *third attempt* to fix a problem that was causing cars - often ones that were parked - to burst into flames. Also seven days ago a million Priuses were recalled due to a fire risk in the wiring harness. Need I keep going? Remember here that we're not talking about fires in these cars from crashes - we're talking only the subset of fires that occur during normal use. Fires in gasoline cars during crashes are effectively a problem flagged "WONTFIX" by the NHTSA.

Four years later, shit Tesla still can’t make it around a race track.

Actually the 280 range of the EQC is apparently not an EPA standard measurement, so it is not even comparable. The 100D you mention is the "high end" for the tesla, but even the 75D model X has 237 miles or range, when the EQC might not have much more than 200: https://jalopnik.com/the-2020-...

It seems that their range was too short, so they sort of fudged the numbers a bit to make it sound better? Not sure what this NEDC measurement is, but it apparently gives the Tesla Model X 100D a 351 range!

They were more concerned about the bumpers staying on than a meaningless 0-60 time.

Secured
Verb: to get hold or possession of; procure; obtain:
"Musk's private funding was secured about as well as a model 3 bumper."

That funding was secured about as well as a model 3 bumper.

The problem is you are using the Dictionary definition of secured. When you should be using the muskionary definition. Under the muskionary definition, these bumpers were also secured.

I doubt this one line will cost that much.

That's because you have a retard level IQ and believe everything a conman tells you. fElon musk secured that funding about as well as Tesla secures the bumpers on their shit cars. Here's another satisfied customer.

Look at that downward trend in tesla's stock price continue!

This is why you don't build cars in a fucking tent.

Actually fElon musk was illegally texting/twitting while driving. I should be trying to figure out why his imcompetent factory is producing $80000 cars with miss matched doors. And why the bumpers keep falling off.

fElon musk is trafficking illegal narcotics through the gigafactory. Bumpers are falling off Teslaâ(TM)s poorly build universally regarded as shit cars.

How are you and Rei gonna spin muskâ(TM)s latest in a long running line of fuckups by the con man?

fElon musk is trafficking illegal narcotics through the gigafactory. Bumpers are falling off Teslaâ(TM)s poorly build universally regarded as shit cars.

How are you and Rei gonna spin muskâ(TM)s latest in a long running line of fuckups by the con man?

At an ever increasing loss. And now they can’t even keep parts from falling off.

Their trend in quality control is getting worse. Can’t wait to see how rei spins this one.

Find me another car company so imcompetent that the bumpers fall off.

Maybe if they were build better, people would actually want to buy them.

fElon musk secured that funding as well as a bumper on a model 3.

Teslas are sort of cool, once you get past their shit build quality and halfassed engineering.

Or contract it out to someone who knows what they're doing, like Jaguar did with the i-Pace

I always wanted an all electric vehicle from "The Prince of Darkness"!

That the innovation isn't present... it's all just standard kit and standard batteries bolted together with the one thing that they WOULDN'T want to replicate as he's done it - the automated driving computer.

I guess you've missed the multiple battery tear-down articles going back 4 years.

1/1000th atmosphere is still hard vacuum retard.

It’s amazing the length you musketeers will go to to defend musks idiotic ideas. Especially considering he committed fraud in Germany and treason in the US.

Nope it’s a Kia quality piece of shit.

The couple Model 3s I've seen up close on the street didn't have any obvious external flaws but it's clear that Tesla's quality control is very erratic.
That has to change. They are or have become capable of building cars well but the constant deathmarch to ever greater production is a serious detriment to quality.

Nope it’s a Kia quality piece of shit. Also still calling people shooters. I though you had moved on to calling people pedos.

When a $5k subsidy in Georgia ended, electric car sales dropped from as many as 1400/month to less than 100/month. That's a pretty clear demonstration they aren't nearly as wanted without the government stepping in to pay people to buy them.

I myself am staunchly anti-drug. My country is, of course, in the news as legalizing recreational marijuana, something that I have personally opposed. But it gives me pause when I hear stories like this. Whatever my personal thoughts on marijuana are, legalizing it simply to remove this kind of specious misuse of probable cause may not be a bad thing.

Of course, the US is quite famous for being the sort of place that will jail your ass for a parking ticket, especially if you're a foreign driver. Hell, people get jailed in the US just for driving with a foreign license. We typically don't live in fear here that police are going to grab a drug dog to sniff out your car if you refuse a search. But regardless, it is certainly something to think about, and makes me rethink some of my attitudes.

Bzzzt Wrong!

Any cay that isn’t a piece of shit golf cart, can make multiple laps of a track without problem. There’s lap record for a van.

Teslas handle like shit, are built like shit, have shit interiors, look like shit, and just generally universally regarded as shit cars.

I’ll take a gas powered BMW over any shit electric golf cart.

I would like to see 100% of the American border guarded by:
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/shm.htm
https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/predator-uav/
https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-air-force-is-retiring-the-predator-drone-for-the-mo-1792832541
https://scholarlycommons.law.case.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1024&context=jil

The fewer human beings that are involved in the defense of no-man's-land style borders, the better.

But then again, I'm an anti-globalist who wants to stop smuggling and trade. Stopping immigration is just a byproduct of ending the first two.

It never ceases to amaze me the gross sense of entitlement certain companies have. People expect to be dealt with fairly, they don't expect to be lied to, discriminated against or retaliated against.

It never ceases to amaze me the gross sense of entitlement certain companies have. People expect to be dealt with fairly, they don't expect to be lied to, discriminated against or retaliated against.

According to Elon, it’s just Jews controlling the media.

He never said. You are obviously dumb for even suggesting that.

According to Elon, it’s just Jews controlling the media.

Is it because their shit cars are going up in flames? Is it because their incompetent clown of a CEO's and his ego made them build an assembly line that can’t scale so they have resort to wasting even more money on a third assembly line in a circus tent? Which by the way they half assed the install.

Is it because their shit cars are going up in flames? Is it because their incompetent clown of a CEO's and his ego made them build an assembly line that can’t scale so they have resort to wasting even more money on a third assembly line in a circus tent? Which by the way they half assed the install.

You’re a total retard if you think Tesla is anywhere near having real self driving. Tesla's auto pilot is the self driving equivalent of a carnival side show.

It’s just legal issues and Uber? It couldn’t be any technical reason why self driving cars are fictional.

Even the biggest assholes are capable of doing a good interview. Especially those who are sociopaths, those dudes are downright likable as long as they get their way. But as soon as people aren't giving them what they want, they start acting like persecuted little children.

Musk loses his shit whenever there is a hint of criticism.

He treated his wife like an employee.
He fired his PA in the most dickish way possible after when she asked for a raise after 12 years
He used underpaid illegal immigrant labor to build his factory.
He uses illegal union-busting tactics.