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Re:Keep this story in mind
They can ( and, in the case of PayPal, some do ) simply ban those transaction types
Not only Paypal, Mastercard seems to be doing similar things as well.
They demanded that Patreon ban Robert Spencer the anti-jihad activist (not to be confused with Richard Spencer the white supremacist).
I assume he is still allowed to spend money with a Mastercard card so that might seem not that controversial.
But receiving money via Mastercard of course requires an intermediary such as Patreon (or a direct Mastercard merchant license or something).
Here some details. I wonder if there are more examples, because this is just his word of course. -
Censorship
Censorship for al-Qaeda does not get noticed by anyone other than a few anons on 8chan. It is so audacious that no one believes they are doing it. Note the date on that post. That was uncovered two and a half years ago and no one has faced consequences, but people who talk about al-Qaeda are getting banned and deplatformed from financial services.
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Re:And so what if they do?
No one is forcing anyone to use Google, YouTube, or any of the other services.
Other than Stripe and Patreon and Apple and Visa and Mastercard and the US State Department and UK Home Office.
If you start up an alternative service, you can expect to get kicked off of every cloud service provider and then DDOSed to death by NATO. Expect the backbones and satellite service providers to start enforcing the same rules that payment processors are already enforcing, and then please tell me how you can begin to build an alternative to Google when you have no network access, no government funding, and no banks will process your payments.
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Re: refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with
Another one: https://www.jihadwatch.org/201...
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Re:Old school vs. Technology
More like because in these days of Alice Through The Looking Glass political correctness actually increasing police in an area of high crime would be called racism?
So they either try to do things in secret like the above or more likely what is happening in just about every major city in the country you let the inner city become a slaughterhouse thanks to Ferguson effect making more and more cops simply unwilling to do their jobs for fear of being accused of racism. Sadly we can look to the UK to see where this leads where one of the largest pedo rings in history operated without fear because the cops were afraid of being called racist if they stopped them.
Think Chicago hitting over 500 murders in a single year was a big deal? Wait until next year when I have no doubt it will double, why? Because cops simply will not go into those neighborhoods and the criminals know it so its a free for all. They have already seen with Darren Wilson it doesn't matter if everything from eye witnesses to forensics shows you were being attacked by someone that had just pulled a robbery, all the MSM cares about is race so their only logical move is to leave the inner cities to the criminals.
But don't worry, I'm sure the stink this program is causing will insure Baltimore PD will not do anything in the future, well other than send the meat wagon to pick up the bodies that is.
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Re:Star of David used by Neo Nazis...
You're making completely unsupported assertions. While we may agree that muslims who believe in sharia law and a small contingent of violent christian fundamentalists both want homosexuals dead, only in islamic countries has such behavior been made explicitly legal. You simply cannot put christian fundamentalists into the same bucket as sharia compliant muslims.
If anything, I'm arguing a distinction between statutory capital punishment, and illegal murder, which you're trying to conflate as equivalent.
Some statistics: https://www.jihadwatch.org/201...
If anything, it seems that the star and crescent should be labeled as a hate symbol.
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Banning weapons and other unpleasantries
So, removal of pistol-emoji is next? And swords and dagger? How about the mosque and the star-and-crescent — a majority of Muslims in the US today would prefer for Sharia to replace the Constitution.
If only we could have the unpleasant facts of life disappear by banning the symbols related to them...
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Re:Omar Saddiqui Mateen?
Yes, really. So you can buy a rifles with a Bible verse on it. That is completely equivalent to Muslims tossing gays off buildings or Iran executing gays. Yes, completely equivalent! Why, put a Bible verse on your gun and you're as bad as burning 19 women to death because they wouldn't let you rape them.
Go up to a Christian in Rome and state you're gay. The worst that will happen is they'll tell you you're a sinner and you need to repent or go to hell. Now do the same in Mecca, and the Government will try you and sentence you to execution. Yes, I can see your point. A verse on a firearm is 100% equivalent with how you'll be treated by the rest of Islam for coming out as gay!
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Dad of Ahmed is an Islamic Supremacist
Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed and Robert Spencer once debated on the topic, “Does Islam Respect Human Rights?” The results were so bad for him that after the debate, The American Muslim pleaded with Muslims not to debate Spencer. In any case, this debate is one indication that Mohamed Elhassan has been trying for several years to make his bones as a warrior against “Islamophobia.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8BLtBFeyyo
The debate starts at 31:48, after an interview with Walid Phares. On a separate note, this Sudanese Islamic activist once claimed that that incident would “spread Islam” in America
That kid may have been innocent, but his father is an Islamic activist trying to intimidate anyone who has any concerns about Islamic activism.
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Re:Can you liberals please wake the fuck up?
So your solution to terrorism is mass genocide?
You run under the assumption that peace is possible. It is only possible if both sides want it.
It might be the solution, if it can't be stopped any other way.
The decision for us to commit much greater atrocities is not "in the hands of the clerics and other muslim [sic] leaders around the world". They are not responsible for our actions, we are.
Sure it is... you waving it away and saying it isn't doesn't change that...
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014...
^ This is part of the problem. They aren't cleaning up their own house. If they were just killing each other, no one in the West would care. But they are killing us, and that isn't acceptable.
If they don't stop it, we will, and it won't be pretty.
We started this bloody awful mess
Ahh, the "blame us for the evil people's actions" reply...
These people have been savage and violent for thousands of years. We weren't much better a few hundred years ago, but we cleaned up our act. It is time for them to do the same.
I pray we do not become the evil we abhor.
So do I, but I also pray that these attacks stop. If they don't stop, then perhaps the terrible becomes possible.
If the attacks that Israel suffers happened in the US at the same rate, this would already have been over. We wouldn't accept what they do for 5 minutes, we wouldn't have to. Now Israel isn't totally innocent in that, I get that... but the US has the power and the ability to do something about it in a way that Israel does not.
As long as enough people choose to dehumanize their fellow human beings then there will be no end to the escalating violence on both sides.
Unless one side wins. You seem to be under the assumption that this has to continue forever. It doesn't. While they don't have the actual ability to beat us outright, the same is not true in reverse.
If you pray for anything, pray that they buy a clue and figure that out before they push it too far.
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Re:Considering how fast Google ditched China
is it a good ideia? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new... http://www.dailystormer.com/th... http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015... And even then, I have to go to alternative site news who are less politically correct for they to spell it out muslins instead of asians. I guess when they rape your boy or girl in the ass you will talk in other light about "knee-jerk" reaction. Fuck you and your political correctness sir.
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Re:Shame?
in exposure about being attacked by a bunch of dipshits?
I expect the threat is that if it succeeds they can say "we can bring down the Acme Bank online banking site whenever we want", probably with false implications that customers money is not safe, etc. Certainly the best option is to defend and say "do your worst". There are some sites that are almost continually under attack by enemies of freedom of speech, and they manage to keep going.
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A useful link for all of ya ...
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015...
It may be from jihadwatch,org but the info inside the article, especially the info from the Police "
... that the gunmen were trying to enter the building to shoot the place up when they were stopped ... " reveals how much those moslems hate you guys, the infidelsAll they ever want is for all of you to either join them and become a mujahid, or be slaughtered
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It's political correctness that LIE to the people
It is not "political correctness" to differentiate between ordinary Muslims and terrorists who are Muslims
Hmm no!
It's PRECISELY because of Poltical Correctness that the Islamic Barbarism movement has sprouted
Those who subscribe to Political Correctness will label people who dare to call a spade, a spade, such as identifying the barbaric tendency amongst many Muslims "Haters"
Precisely because of Political Correctness no one dare to voice out when things started to go wrong
And when no one voicing out when things started to go wrong, the things that went wrong went MORE wrong, and those things grew and grew, until we have
...* The Boston Marathon Bombing, the
http://www.cbsnews.com/feature...* The Murder and videotaping of an 8-year old girl in Toulouse
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012...* The Hostage taking and murder saga at Sydney
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...The list could go on, and on, and on, and the one common thread, apart from the Islamic barbarism is POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
If it wasn't because of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS all those barbaric fuckers would have been flushed out long before they carried out their dastard acts
Those motherfucking Islamic barbarians hide behind the curtains of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS and thriving
Their number is growing, and they are everywhere
Thanks to the motherfucking POLITICAL CORRECTNESS more and more bloody episodes of Islamic Barbarism will happen on the Western soil
More and more innocent people will be needlessly butchered, and we have POLITICAL CORRECTNESS to thank for !
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Re:Comparison equally valid on both sides
I'm not trying to defend them, they're as ridiculous a caricature of villainy as you can get, but they're a product of the east west dynamic much more than a product of Islam.
Right
.....ISIS Jihadis Get ‘Slavery for Dummies’
One of the biggest problems the West has is recognizing them for what they are based on their actions and who they say they are as opposed to what the politically correct nonsense being published in the West says about them.
Unfortunately it isn't just ISIS, Al Qaida, and company.
Russian Blondes Wanted for Islamic Sexual Slavery
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Re:Hidden Files section?
Please be sufficiently terrified and not notice it's a sham caused by western meddling in the 1st place.
Many problems in the world are either caused or exacerbated by ignorance of the sort that you have just demonstrated. Al Qaida's goals have nothing to do with what the West does or has done, other than repelling the Muslim invasions 500+ years ago. They want to rule the world, and that means taking over places they don't rule now. Pretending the problem is something other than what it actually is will be very likely to have unfortunate results. The Islamists are teaching their children that they will retake the lands they formerly ruled, and eventually control it all. Now there is a key point here: it doesn't matter if you believe them, believe that they actually believe that, or that they will succeeed. They do believe it, and will act on it, so Western societies and the rest of the world had better be ready for it.
Alarm in Spain over al-Qaeda call for its “reconquest”
HAMAS Targets SpainThe price of denial and PC thinking is starting to be felt in very ugly ways.
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Re:Snowden's copies?
Yes, Genn is a very busy man.
Glenn Greenwald enraged that Muslims with terror ties under surveillance
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Re:Slashdot will hate me for saying this.
You don't get it, do you? It isn't what I believe, it is what they say. Why don't you start educating yourself?
The Future of Terrorism: What al-Qaida Really Wants
Alarm in Spain over al-Qaeda call for its “reconquest”
HAMAS Targets SpainI can't believe that people are still ignorant of this sort of thing after all this time. It is almost unbelievable.
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Re:Of course
Al Qaida killed as many people on 11 September 2001 as the Japanese killed on 7 December 1941. The US went to war with both despite the fact that traffic deaths killed more people than enemy attacks in both those years by 10x or more.
Al Qaida has not reached the Gates of Vienna yet, but they aspire to eventually. There is a choice: Fight the fire in the frying pan, wait to fight it until the kitchen burns, or wait to fight it when the house burns. Plenty of people seem to be saying, "Don't fight it at all." That isn't the choice you have unless you are content to consign your children or grandchildren to being slaves.
Al-Qaeda-linked force captures Fallujah amid rise in violence in Iraq
Al Qaida and its allies have retaken Fallujah, which was taken by US forces in one of the harder battles in Iraq. They fight to take Syria, Yemen, and other lands. They cast a longing gaze at Spain. In time they think Europe and the world.
Alarm in Spain over al-Qaeda call for its "reconquest"
HAMAS Targets Spain -
Re:Key paragraph
This is why the "they hate us for our freedoms" tripe seems to actually fly with a lot of those folks. They seem to honestly not know what kind of brutal regimes their government is supporting and arming -- in their name, and on their dime.
The tripe is being served up mainly by people on the Left. The extremist Islamists such as al Qaida directly state that they want to take over the world, convert the population to Islam, and implement Sharia law in every country. They want to take back formerly Muslim lands, such as Spain.
Alarm in Spain over al-Qaeda call for its "reconquest"
HAMAS Targets SpainThey want to remove your freedom of worship or not worship, punishing any belief but Islamic belief to varying degrees. The general Muslim position has historically been that Christians and Jews are "People of the Book," close enough that they can be tolerated in Muslim lands, but heavily taxed to create an incentive towards conversion. Polytheists are a hated enemy to be converted, driven out, or killed. (The current extremists do not even want to make the traditional concession to Christians and Jews.) They want to use their religious law to remove your right to eat, drink, and read what you can now. They want to ban alcohol and pornography, for example. They want to remove freedom of expression and punish blasphemy, actively. They want to unify church and state as is the Islamic custom under the Calphate. They believe the problem their societies face will be solved not by digging more sewers and building more schools, but by chopping off more hands and heads. They want to bring that civilization to you, by force if necessary.
I'm not sure who you could miss that. If you have looked into the question at all you must have seen this. Do you reject it? How do you explain the stated desire to return Spain to Islamic rule by blaming the US? If you have looked into the question of extremist Islam in Europe, you know they have the same goal there for Europe. How do you blame that on the United States?
If you haven't noticed the US gets hated for acting and not acting at the same time. Don't interfere! You didn't interfere!
Of course there is little consistency among the Left on related questions. As a practical example, you can see how this operated in 1991 with Saddam's invasion of Kuwait. There was essentially no protest in Europe's streets when Saddam invaded Kuwait. The protests came when the US worked to remove Saddam's army. Saddams' invasion wasn't treated as imperialism, or aggression, but removing it was.
As to my sig, I wasn't "guiding moderators" but reminding them that we are having a discussion here. That is hard to do if one viewpoint is removed from view simply because it is not your viewpoint. Some moderators took it to heart and the moderation of my posts become somewhat less harsh, although various intolerant ideologues continue to mod bomb me from time to time. Fascism isn't truly dead, merely resting, and some moderators seem to take it as a guiding principle for their use of mod points.
As to my current sig, I suggest you read it again. I am not "threatening" people taking a contrary position to mine but am doing something different. Do you need assistance in parsing it? I realize that English isn't your first language.
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Re:Key paragraph
The morally bankrupt tactics are on the part of al Qaida and its associates who deliberately slaughter noncombatants by many means. The blinkered views of some in the West are of aid to them.
You are fundamentally confused about the source of the war against al Qaida - it is their decision, they declared war and began attacks killing many people years before the US made a serious response. They want a war of conquest. They want to restore the "glory of Islam" by restoring the Caliphate government that was dissolved in 1924 after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, and starting a world-wide conflict to bring all nations to the Muslim faith under Islamic rule. They want to take back lands formerly governed by Muslims, including the country of Spain, and al Qaida is not alone in that goal.
Alarm in Spain over al-Qaeda call for its "reconquest"
HAMAS Targets SpainPlease explain to me how it is the fault of the US that al Qaida and Hamas want to reconquer Spain?
This is about them, not about the US. You are simply mistaken.
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Re:Damn right
You've gone wrong on a couple of points there. First, al Qaida and company do indeed want the entire world under Islamic rule. It is their goal. The Middle East is just closer to it since it has a majority of Muslims, a number of the countries already implement Sharia in some form, even if imperfectly. Indonesia, Pakistan, and Afghanistan are also high on the list. You may have noticed that they are subject to various troubles as well, not to mention India.
The Future of Terrorism: What al-Qaida Really Wants
They plan to take back lands formerly controlled by Muslims. Just one example: Spain
Alarm in Spain over al-Qaeda call for its "reconquest"
HAMAS Targets SpainAs to the US, there is no such thing as "Christian" rule. The US is a secular democracy. It is a nation of primarily Christians (of various flavors and piety) living in a democracy. There is no theocracy, there is no meaningful movement towards theocracy, and it is unclear what one would even look like since there doesn't seem to be a biblical model for it this side of Christ's return. So your post on that is nonsense.
Christian missionaries have been greatly beneficial to many lands. This is only one example.
Matthew Parris: As an atheist, I truly believe Africa needs God
If you look into the history of the last 100 years, you will see that officially atheist regimes were one of the great scourges of the planet. In their communist form they killed 100,000,000 people and brutalized and oppressed many more.
Jesus lived his life as an observant Jew, is recorded to have fulfilled many prophecies associated with being the Messiah, and made statements declaring himself to be God. Many of his followers preferred to die painful deaths rather than denounce him.
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Re:Meh, no surprise
They don't have to be soldiers of a country since their legal position is essentially similar to that of pirates. But as it happens they consider themselves to be jihadists of the Islamic Caliphate. Are you willing to be an envoy to them? They can be rough, even on their supporters. Given that they behead many of their prisoners, there may not be much to negotiate. I'm willing to see you try though. Keep in mind that they don't fight according to the Geneva Conventions, but rather according to the rules of Jihad in Sharia law. That can lead to some debates that will sound strange to modern Western ears, such as the call by various influential Muslims that the old Muslim practice of taking sex slaves in war be revived.
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Re:Everyone Spies on Everyone
Perhaps people are just tired of warmongering governments and people who want safety above all else.
So I take it then that what you really want is peaceful danger? Good news for you! There is an entire political-religious system devoted to that! You can find details here. Some of the "fringe benefits" are amazing. I would stay away from cruise ships though, taking past experience as a guide you won't want to be forced to hang around.
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Re:Expensive
The world is paying a heavy price for a small percentage of more than a billion Muslims (still a large number of people) deciding they intend to bomb and behead their way back towards what they consider to be the glory days of Islam hundreds of years ago when the Muslim empires were at their height and even threatened to conquer Europe. If you don't understand that you are almost guaranteed to make the wrong policy choices in dealing with them. Making the wrong choices will mean the problem lasts longer, or is more violent than it could be. Do you understand that they even want to take back Spain as a Muslim land? Upping the grain subsidies to Somalia or cutting off funding for democracy programs in Iraq isn't going to fix that. This isn't the first time in history this sort of movement has occurred. Those previous examples weren't the fault of the US either since in at least some cases the US either didn't exist, or it wasn't involved in the region. The US isn't so important that every problem in the world is its fault. People in other parts of the world are known to create their own problems without US assistance. This is one of those cases.
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Re:So what the NSA got on these senators?
I'll say. And you know who's to blame, right? When will they learn? Appeasement is the path to peace, right?
Besides, the very idea of third world peoples having their own goals is absurd.
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Re:so what is porn?
Thank you very much for doing the research Bearhouse. Many simply assume they know what the teachings of Islam are (mistaking it for Judaism or Christianity - when it most certainly is very different) and demonize me. The more research you do, the worse Islam gets as you uncover layer upon layer of lies and deliberate 'taqiyya'.
Those would would defend our liberties against Big Government and Islamism are losing the 'information war' very badly. When even above average intelligence Slashdotters don't know the facts it is worrying. Thankfully you decided to 'check your facts'. If only our politicians, journalists and military would do this.
Here are some alternative news sources for you. I'm not suggesting they are entirely correct on everything, or without their own biases, but they do raise facts that are troubling and not presented by the mainstream media (which is why people are so in the dark as to what is really going on geopolitically):
http://gatesofvienna.net/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.breitbart.com/ [This one is quote biased, but you get facts you don't get elsewhere about the Leftists plan to deconstruct the traditional West]
http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/139-louis-palme/1095-knowing-four-arabic-words-may-save-our-civilization-from-islamic-takeover.html "Knowing Four Arabic Words May Save Our Civilization from Islamic Takeover" [An interesting article that explains some part of why you are being lied to]
I suggest reading them for a week to get a feel for whether they are worthwhile to follow or not (don't read them exclusively though - they need to be compared to other sources too).I also strongly suggest you check the lectures by Stephen Coughlin on Youtube, and also look up the allies of the Islamists with an excellent documentary on 'Cultural Marxism' and how it has permeated Western universities and general culture. You don't have to agree with me, but please do the research so you can see the Matrix that is constructed around us (prison bars only work when they are invisible).
Please note: "Muslims" (who are people) are not the enemies of liberty, it is "Islam" (a political ideology) that is. Just as Free People confronted and defeated National Socialism and Communist Socialism we will also have to defeat the political tyranny of religious socialism (Islam). The longer we leave it to 'get real' about Islam - which means strengthening our enforcement of 21st Century Law and Enlightenment values the harder it will get. I hope it does not come to War - but the Islamists already see the struggle between Enlightenment Civilization and Islamism in those terms.
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Re:so what is porn?
Thank you very much for doing the research Bearhouse. Many simply assume they know what the teachings of Islam are (mistaking it for Judaism or Christianity - when it most certainly is very different) and demonize me. The more research you do, the worse Islam gets as you uncover layer upon layer of lies and deliberate 'taqiyya'.
Those would would defend our liberties against Big Government and Islamism are losing the 'information war' very badly. When even above average intelligence Slashdotters don't know the facts it is worrying. Thankfully you decided to 'check your facts'. If only our politicians, journalists and military would do this.
Here are some alternative news sources for you. I'm not suggesting they are entirely correct on everything, or without their own biases, but they do raise facts that are troubling and not presented by the mainstream media (which is why people are so in the dark as to what is really going on geopolitically):
http://gatesofvienna.net/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.breitbart.com/ [This one is quote biased, but you get facts you don't get elsewhere about the Leftists plan to deconstruct the traditional West]
http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/139-louis-palme/1095-knowing-four-arabic-words-may-save-our-civilization-from-islamic-takeover.html "Knowing Four Arabic Words May Save Our Civilization from Islamic Takeover" [An interesting article that explains some part of why you are being lied to]
I suggest reading them for a week to get a feel for whether they are worthwhile to follow or not (don't read them exclusively though - they need to be compared to other sources too).I also strongly suggest you check the lectures by Stephen Coughlin on Youtube, and also look up the allies of the Islamists with an excellent documentary on 'Cultural Marxism' and how it has permeated Western universities and general culture. You don't have to agree with me, but please do the research so you can see the Matrix that is constructed around us (prison bars only work when they are invisible).
Please note: "Muslims" (who are people) are not the enemies of liberty, it is "Islam" (a political ideology) that is. Just as Free People confronted and defeated National Socialism and Communist Socialism we will also have to defeat the political tyranny of religious socialism (Islam). The longer we leave it to 'get real' about Islam - which means strengthening our enforcement of 21st Century Law and Enlightenment values the harder it will get. I hope it does not come to War - but the Islamists already see the struggle between Enlightenment Civilization and Islamism in those terms.
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Re:Not your problem
Turkey and the Muslim Brotherhood are aligned. Turkey would very very much like for the US to intervene on the Turkish side (Turkey, the African Muslim Brotherhood nations like Egypt Libya etc, and the Syrian Al Qaeda called "Al Nusra"). So there is a possibility that this could be a "false flag" operation - in the same way that Al Nusra used chemical weapons on its own civilians in the last fortnight and accused Assad of doing this (hoping the US would leap in an help Al Qeada out, again).
In fact, The Muslim Brotherhood have cleverly worked out that they can use the power of the US to further their agenda as long as they claim to be moderate. See:
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/how-obama-lost-his-big-muslim-brotherhood-gamble/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/05/the-united-states-has-become-a-tool-of-muslim-brotherhood-expansionism.htmlThe Muslim Brotherhood is very very smart/cunning. After seeing NATO intervene on the side of the Bosian Muslims and Albanian Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo respectively the MB realised it could manipulate the US into doing its dirty work. That is exactly what is happening, and the US goes along with this because it believes the MB is a counter to Al Qaeda. Of course, the Muslim Brotherhood is merely the "good cop" role while Al Qaeda plays "bad cop"- their methods differ (non-violence versus violence) but their goals are completely aligned: all nations subjected to the Muslim political order under Sharia.
The US should let Assad crush the rebels (yes, this is bad, because Iran is involved, but it is far far better than letting the Muslim Brotherhood get another country for their restored Caliphate plan).
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Re:If two people lock down a major city....
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Re:tell me again
Doubly false. Shows you don't know as much as you think you do - and you need to do a lot more research than merely regurgitate the propaganda of Hamas-inspired CAIR and their Leftist Allies.
False. Jihad means many things. There are not "many" interpretations of jihad. There are two. This shows you don't actually know what you are talking about. "Jihad akhbar" is "greater jihad" that is a personal struggle. "Jihad asghar" is the "lesser jihad". However it is jihad asghar that is called for in most of the 109 or so verses of the Qur'an that call for the slaughter and subjugation of non-Muslims. I hope you never repeat this falsehood again - you are supporting jihadis when you do (which is why their propaganda arms like CAIR and Muslim Student Association put the lie out there - to play a "Jedi Mind Trick" on any weak-minded person who will repeat the falsehood without investigating the facts). If you want to learn how you were mistaken please see the excellent YouTube videos by Major Stephen Coughlin. This one analyses the basis for jihad in Islamic Law (using *Islamic sources only*): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsArto3UVT0 "Stephen Coughlin, Part 2: Understanding the War on Terror Through Islamic Law"
People like you really miss the Red Scare don't you?
False. Actually I wish Islam was a "religion of peace" rather than the evil totalitarian political movement it is. However, your characterization to slander me with projected falsehood is a typical tactic of the political Left. By trying to demonize an opponent it absolves you from ever listening to them or needing to produce facts to counter their argument (which in most cases, you couldn't do). Please desist from this. It is a bad habit and resorting to it shows you actually have no counter argument to make - which makes you look bad. I suggest instead of closing your mind to counter-evidence you instead follow the citations I give. That might cure you of your current delusions with regard to the nature and aims of political Islam (and you would then stop making excuses for evil).
Furthermore, let us conduct a "thought-experiment". Imagine if the Qur'an verses mentioning jihad really meant "personal struggle" rather than "total war against unbelievers", what would the Islamic World and Middle East then look like? would we still have 270 million killed by Islam? would we have subjugation and discrimination against all remaining non-Muslim populations in the Middle East (eg. Jews, Christians [Assyrians, Copts], Atheists, etc). Would the world have multiple attacks per day by the Muslims who follow the *mainstream* Islamic doctrine that jihad means warfare against unbelievers, check out the facts:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Now that you understand you have been repeating propaganda planted for you by evil jihadis and their apologists I hope you will stop parroting it. The following sites will help you distinguish the islamicist lies from reality (and show you *facts* that the mainstream media is too afraid to show):
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
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Re:the world is so full of jerks...
In your effort to show how clever you are you completely miss the point (and inadvertently you also end up providing apologetics for defending the evil doctrines of Islam).
Please name one homicide bomber that was inspired to murder by Christianity? Or name one mainstream Christian Church that said that murder in the name of Christianity is morally good in the 21st Century? you can't, because a central doctrine of Christianity is "Vengeance in mine, sayeth the Lord". That is, Christians have no doctrinal right to revenge and cannot assert over non-Christians.
This is completely different to Islam, which not only asserts Sharia over all non-Muslims, but commands that Muslims enact revenge and jihad if they are able.
So, by trying to assert moral equivalence (something the political Left always tries to do, and clearly you are emulating) you are trying to indicate that Christianity is as bad as Islam. This is simply not true. Christianity has many many flaws (and, in fact, is anti-scientific and massively self-contradictory man-made fiction, but we won't get into that now) but modern Christianity is positively angelic compared to the "anti-Christ" nature of *mainstream* Islamic doctrine. Note by Islam as "anti-Christ", I mean that whatever Christ/Christianity teaches Islam and Mohammed almost always command the opposite: eg. "Thou shalt not bear false witness" [no lying] in Christianity is explicitly countered by Islam's doctrines of *mandatory* lying in the form of taqiyya, tawriya, muruna and kitman (). In Christianity sexual immorality is prohibited and Christ set an example of "continence", whereas Mohammed had sex with 8 year old (9 lunar years) Aisha, have multiple wives and slaves (including sex slaves), committed rape and permitted others to do the same. I hope you get the picture.
Your sophistry using moral equivalence is an immoral thing to do - you are wittingly or unwittingly defending Islamicists who commit murder around the globe (see http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ for the daily facts of the carnage). Please don't do that. Instead of trying to appear clever, how about you instead use your keyboard to defend the human rights and liberty of all those killed, maimed and oppressed by political Islam? that would be a better use of your talents, would it not? you may have to learn about the true nature of Islam - be careful, the taqiyya thrown out obfuscates things - this site is as truthful as any: http://www.jihadwatch.org/.
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Re:tell me again
Hell they even say that they will do it!
Yes, they say it daily. The Muslims around the world certainly understand what is going on - they gloat about the coming Caliphate and what they will do to Free People.
The abuse that Israel is under is coming to all non-Muslim countries until they submit to Sharia. Note that even after a country becomes Muslim the violence doesn't stop, it actually gets worse as different Islamic sects are then free to slaughter each other without restraint (eg. see Pakistan, or Afghanistan, or Syria etc). As long as Israel stands it will be the shield of the rest of the world (that's what the symbol of their national flag is, ""Magen David", the Shield of David). All free nations need to stand together against the coming Caliphate (an Islamic political entity that will subvert the culture of and then subjugate nations one-by-one).
Democrats and Left-wingers, I urge you to start looking at the *facts* of what is going on, rather than following your *emotions* about what you think may be going on. The conservatives may have realised the nature and aims of political Islam earlier than you, but if you keep an open mind those same conservatives will try to give you the facts as they understand them. Islam's declared aim is to remove the Human Rights and liberties of all Free People and subjugate them under Sharia. If you think conservatives are the enemy then you are not seeing or thinking clearly. Islam is the enemy of all Free People.
See the facts of the number of killings going on *daily* by Islam (mostly Muslim on Muslim violence). The violence is caused by commandments in the Qur'an, not what the US or Israel has done (as the Left and Islamicists lie to you ad infinitum - to throw you off the true scent of their totalitarian aims until it is too late):
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
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Re:What's the weather like on planet Stormfront?
When stuff like the following happens, as it has been for 1400 years, one does not have to be a genius to see the future for Copts in Egypt. You sneer at me, but by doing so you are aiding an abetting the following intolerance. Do you want to be an evil person?:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/04/coptic-christians-under-siege-as-muslim-mob-attacks-cairo-cathedral.html -
Re:OUTRAGE!
Please re-read. Verbal fight until the Muslims threw the Koran at him (that is, they assault him). He *responds* but ripping Koran up (not by assaulting them). Who goes to jail? not the guys initiating the assault.
Then we have the case of "The Innocence of Muslims" film. It is actually relatively factually correct (actually more so than many Hollywood productions) - even if the production values were lousy. Who goes to jail, a guy in the US exercising his First Amendment Rights. Meanwhile both the Muslim Brotherhood and Obama Administration exploit the film for their own ends (the latter to deflect attention from their criminal gun-running to Al Qaeda affiliated groups in Benghazi; and you thought "Fast n Furious" to drug-lord enemies was a one off). Citation: http://www.pi-news.org/2012/09/fact-check-the-innocence-of-the-muslims/
Then we have the case in Spain of a young film maker (Imran Firasat) being persecuted by the Spanish Government for making an historically accurate film about Mohammed. He is being chucked out of the country where he will almost certainly be killed. So much for political asylum for truth speakers in the EU. Citation: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/03/sharia-in-action-in-spain-muhammad-filmmaker-to-be-prosecuted-after-muslims-complain-to-government-a.html
This is the 'stealth jihad' that is far far more insidious than the kinetic jihad. It is slowly but surely changing free societies where one cannot speak *facts and truth* about Islam without being prosecuted. Worse, we have people like yourself that can't even read and see the problem with who gets prosecuted for what. The published 10-year plan of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) is coming along nicely. Most people are worried about a resurgence of neo-nazis when it is the rise of the totalitarian Left and their Islamist allies that is proceeding to crush individual liberties like unfettered Free Speech. Political Correctness in particular is strangling the Free World.
So wisen up please people. There is a war on for our culture and liberties. The mainstream media and political elites are lying to you (both progressive and conservative politicians). Your rights are being eroded due to misguided political correctness and the slow 'stealth jihad' of the OIC. Learn to read the news critically and correctly - Islam is on the march across the globe. Whether or not you want it in your neck of the woods it is coming. Your choices under Islam are: be killed, submit, or be discriminated against as a second-class dhimmi. You have one other choice: resist and fight for free speech and liberty.
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Re:Oh, the surprise.
So now a theoretically declared war . .
It is actual, not theoretical.
against a poorly defined group of individuals
Rather like the war against the Barbary pirates, another group of Islamists. Not a problem, really.
is the same as a congressional deceleration of war against a sovereign nation?
Legally, yes.
In a genuine time of war exceptions to due process are made.
That isn't true. They are covered by different rules, the law of war versus criminal law. Rather like the rules of football don't apply when playing basketball.
The US is at war. It hasn't lost its way. You are misinformed and confused.
Anwar al Awlaki was not "considered to be a terrorist", he was a terrorist, a high ranking one at that. He was quite open about recruiting Muslims to kill Americas and was tied to multiple attacks and attempted attacks. His son hoped to follow his father's path.
Anwar al Awlaki's son hoped 'to attain martyrdom as my father attained it'
You are quite right to be alarmed about the potential loss of civil liberties in the United States. But let me ask you this - if the lives of the 175 children you speak of are so precious, will you not weep for the tens or hundreds of thousands of people killed by Al Qaeda planting bombs in markets and along roads? Wouldn't it be better for that to stop?
Of course, they don't plan to stop until they take over the Middle East, and then the world, even if it takes a thousand years. What would you do about that? This is about their ambition to establish Islam's rule over the world, not against real or imagined wrongs done to them by the US and the West, other than not already bowing down and becoming Muslims already. They even want to recapture Spain, both Al Qaeda, and Hamas, and no doubt others.
HAMAS Targets Spain
Alarm in Spain over al-Qaeda call for its "reconquest"If you are still concerned about due process, let me offer you this. What way do you have to individually arrest, investigate, charge, try by a jury of peers, convict, and sentence these men before shooting them? Legally they are in the same position as al Awlaki.
The country has limits, you simply don't understand them and how they apply.
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Re:Oh, the surprise.
So now a theoretically declared war . .
It is actual, not theoretical.
against a poorly defined group of individuals
Rather like the war against the Barbary pirates, another group of Islamists. Not a problem, really.
is the same as a congressional deceleration of war against a sovereign nation?
Legally, yes.
In a genuine time of war exceptions to due process are made.
That isn't true. They are covered by different rules, the law of war versus criminal law. Rather like the rules of football don't apply when playing basketball.
The US is at war. It hasn't lost its way. You are misinformed and confused.
Anwar al Awlaki was not "considered to be a terrorist", he was a terrorist, a high ranking one at that. He was quite open about recruiting Muslims to kill Americas and was tied to multiple attacks and attempted attacks. His son hoped to follow his father's path.
Anwar al Awlaki's son hoped 'to attain martyrdom as my father attained it'
You are quite right to be alarmed about the potential loss of civil liberties in the United States. But let me ask you this - if the lives of the 175 children you speak of are so precious, will you not weep for the tens or hundreds of thousands of people killed by Al Qaeda planting bombs in markets and along roads? Wouldn't it be better for that to stop?
Of course, they don't plan to stop until they take over the Middle East, and then the world, even if it takes a thousand years. What would you do about that? This is about their ambition to establish Islam's rule over the world, not against real or imagined wrongs done to them by the US and the West, other than not already bowing down and becoming Muslims already. They even want to recapture Spain, both Al Qaeda, and Hamas, and no doubt others.
HAMAS Targets Spain
Alarm in Spain over al-Qaeda call for its "reconquest"If you are still concerned about due process, let me offer you this. What way do you have to individually arrest, investigate, charge, try by a jury of peers, convict, and sentence these men before shooting them? Legally they are in the same position as al Awlaki.
The country has limits, you simply don't understand them and how they apply.
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Deflection
The hardcore Muslims are trying to deflect your attention. The real racism is contained in the Qur'an against the Jews. Mohammed really, really hated Jews because they rejected him (no wonder, he was an evil warlord that at 54 years of age married six year old Aisha over the objections of her father). This hatred is no because of the creation of Israel (in 1948), but has existed for 1400 years since the founding of Islam. No matter what the Israelis do or do not do, or whether you are and Israeli Jew or and American Jew or a British Jew or a Canadian Jew then you the Muslims want to kill you because the Qur'an commands genocide against the Jews will precede the Muslim Day of Judgement (any Muslim that kills a Jew will be blessed by Allah - how evil is that).
The deflection is that Muslims are the victims of racism (when their doctrine is explicitly racist against Jews; and violent and discriminatory against all non-Muslims). Muslims also claim they are the victims of 'crusader' aggression, but when you look around the Muslims are the aggressors to non-Muslims and other Muslim sects/more secular Muslims (eg. in Thailand, Indonesia, Phillipines, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Egypt, Sudan, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco, Turkey, etc).
It is very very important to understand that the manufactured rage against Lego has *nothing* to do with the cultural symbols. It is all about power and subjugation. The Muslims (especially the OIC and Muslim Brotherhood) want to condition the Free West into 'dhimmitude' where we are sufficiently subjugated and obey their wishes. The politically correct crowd and media are duped into reinforcing this message. The correct message Lego and others should be to say, "In the West we practice Free Speech". If Lego do not give in we can expect violence - the police can handle this. If Lego give in then the Muslims will continue to be emboldened and will press for more and more, to make us feel like dhimmis . This is called, 'cultural jihad' and most Free People don't understand how insidious and clever the Muslim Brotherhood is with this, far far smarter than 'libtard' politicians like Clinton (who promoted destruction of Free Speech when she co-sponsored UN HRC Resolution 16/18; against the First Amendment of the US Constitution).
Google is your friend if you want to find out about the 'cultural jihad'. It is far far more dangerous to the long term health of the Free World than regular violent jihad (which only stiffens our will to resist and overcome the evil ideology of Islam). Here are some starting links:
http://muslimbrotherhoodinamerica.com/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
http://www.dhimmitude.org/Even if you don't oppose the ideology of Islam (which means you haven't researched it yet) you must still understand that Muslim demands for special treatment (eg. the right to determine what Lego is or is not Sharia compliant in their view) will never stop until they have subjugated the Free World. Giving in only postpones the day of reckoning when they seize control (and if you care to look, they are quite open about this). If they ever did get control they believe the World would be at peace. This is completely deluded, the Muslim regions of the world are continually in violent turmoil, because the Muslim-on-Muslim violence then gets unleashed and it is non-stop:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/The only solution is to stop Islam before we get to that point. We have to say "We believe in Free Speech" and really mean it. We also have to enact laws that explicitly prohibit Sharia being introduced as state/nantion law, "No Sharia in the West!" (which parts of the US is doing, although the Obama Administration is trying to stop the state governments in this - Obama has a Leftist agenda where he wants to deconstruct America as
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Re:Cool story
You're confusing them with Klingons.
You are confusing fiction with real life. For the sake of a cheap gag you discredit yourself. I've been to many countries in the Middle East (have you?). I'm no culture expert but they value and respect strength far more than we do. A man doesn't show weakness or he is shamed (and they worry a great deal about honor and shame - which is why they kill their own daughters, wives and each other).
The only way to defeat islamic extremists is to cut them off from manpower and supplies and that can be done only with non-combat means
Go and look at the surveys and statistics. The 'extremists' narrative is a lie propagated by the self-loathing media (who think it is newsworthy to continually denigrate the Free World, and try to give exotic natives/cults airtime pass no matter how brutal and inhumane their core doctrines are). If you look at the surveys yiou'll see that around 20% of the Ummah (the community of Muslims; which is estimated at 1.2 - 1.6 billion people) want to perform direct jihad. Around 50% (700 million or so) won't do direct jihad but support the ideal of those that do. Even higher percentages (eg. around 80% of Muslims in the UK) want to impose Sharia (which claims jurisdiction over non-Muslims; this makes Islam and ideology, and sets it completely apart from the other Abrahamic religions). So the narrative that it is 'extremists' that can be cut off is false. The idea of 'jihad' and 'sharia' are mainstream for Muslims and core doctrines. The only way to stop it is to reform or destroy the ideology. We could wait for reform but we don't have the decades or centuries to do this - Islamic states are gaining nuclear weapons and other WMDs and their core ideology says that they should use them to bring Islam to the whole world. Remember, these guys don't care about life, they care about the (fictional) afterlife they've been promised and the oinly guaranteed route to get there is to become a shahid (jiahdi martyr). Many consider themselves as doing Allah's work to nuke the planet (especially to kill rid the world of Jews, Christians and atheists) - and getting killed by doing this is the best outcome they could hope for. This doctrine is insane and inhumane, but is *core Islam* (not an extreme interpretation):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDMOxjHIt0UFortunately most Muslims are good human beings (which necessarily makes then bad Muslims). Don't confuse the fact that many Muslims reject their core (clearly evil) Islamic teachings with Islam itself being tolerant or moderate. The totalitarian ideology of Islam is the problem, and must be neutralized. We are quickly running out of time to do this. Citations:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks
http://www.al-rassooli.com/palestine/index.html
http://muslimbrotherhoodinamerica.com/I can only offer you the Blue Pill or the Red Pill. The media idiots are either poorly informed (unprofessional!) or are lying to you and deliberately not reporting on the true global situation. Do the research, follow the links I've given. Fight for liberty! (which means, criticise the enemies of Freedom/Islamic supremacists at least as much as you criticise the drones, k? and tell your friends the truth you discover)
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Re:Al Jazeerah is BBC
Al Jazeerah is BBC . . . It was formed when BBC closed it Arabic division. Those folks went and started Al Jazeerah.
That makes perfect sense.
Electing a New People: The Leftist - Islamic Alliance
Islamist-Left Alliance A Growing Force(BBC Director General) Mark Thompson: “There was massive left-wing bias at the BBC”
The BBC's Left-wing bias isn't in its news coverage; it's in everything else that it does
BBC bias - The BBC has managed to flabbergast even those Israelis who hadn’t expected minimal fairness from it.
More absurd anti-Israel bias from BBC MidEast editor
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Re:2 points
so know illegal aliens getting arrested for blocking traffic is the same as jailing someone for posting something some peoples club considers offensive?
*winces at the bad english* Freedom of expression must have a very different definition in your world.
your violent crime examples of homicides, not violent crime. Of course, rape and violence on women is rarely reported, and even less frequently documented. so you link is less facts and more half truth.
Yeah, what was I thinking, using the most reported and documented violent crime as a baseline reference? Silly me.
The crime rate was low in Germany During the Nazi regime. Is that really an argument that Nazi Germans is better then the US, or any country?
You Godwin'd yourself. But ignoring that, there's about 11 million dead Jews and political prisoners that would disagree about the crime rate. But you know, other than that, there's also the problem of there not being any statistics on the crime rate or population of the Third Reich for the past 67 years.
That said, I suspect that there rate of imprisonment is lower then the US. The USs prison increase is doe toy the privatization of prisons.
Every time you post something to the internet, God kills a dictionary. The ownership of our prisons has as much relationship to the reasons why so many are jailed each year as your literary shortcomings do to the number of books Amazon sells each year.
the truth is, they aren't better. All your metrics ignore what life is like for over half their population.
I will admit I have more confidence that the CIA, the United Nations, The Harvard Institute of Law, and a handful of major news outlets got the numbers right than I do in a person on the internet literary abilities of a fifth grader, who is backing up his argument with no citations, logical reasoning, or even an anecdotal story.
However our country can, and has many times, changed without needing a revolution.
I'm skeptical of this claim that stuff has happened many times. I don't think stuff happens many times. In fact, I'd even go as far as to call myself a stuff skeptic. I'm going to need a citation from you that the country has done stuff, and that this stuff has happened many times. Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof, you know.
We do live in a country where you can have a different house of worship on each corner at an intersect and nothing violent happens.
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Re:is WW3 coming?
We've been in World War III since June 5, 1968. It's just a matter of noticing.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks
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Re:And I'd like....
But but... I thought the arab spring was going to bring a pluralistic western democracy with full rights for women and gays and universal health-care for all! What's this you say? The majority of the people want to fundamentalist Islam? That this was predictable from day one? The majority of the people want to impose their religion on the minority? Why -- shouldn't that be forbidden by the constitution? What's this you say, the Salafists and their enablers are writing the constitution? Surely there will be a referendum on this? Oh? Well that's good. Surely the secular majority will vote for a less religious constitution where Sharia is not enshrined in law. Surely they will!
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Re:And I'd like....
But but... I thought the arab spring was going to bring a pluralistic western democracy with full rights for women and gays and universal health-care for all! What's this you say? The majority of the people want to fundamentalist Islam? That this was predictable from day one? The majority of the people want to impose their religion on the minority? Why -- shouldn't that be forbidden by the constitution? What's this you say, the Salafists and their enablers are writing the constitution? Surely there will be a referendum on this? Oh? Well that's good. Surely the secular majority will vote for a less religious constitution where Sharia is not enshrined in law. Surely they will!
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Re:Sounds like a campus speech code
Two very tenuous and strained attempts to link violence and Christianity.
Wade through this if you have enough time.
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Re:It's a sad sign of the times
?The reason I didn't respond to all three was that I didn't want to do three times the work. Showing you misinformed once was sufficient in my mind and those who want to read the other quotes in context -- great. Jesus was a Jew, after all, so it's hard to say Christianity is anti-Semitic.
As for your accusations about the talmud... I read that often on Islamic and white supremacist sites. The problem is most Islamists and neo-facists get their information about Jews from the Qur'an or equally fallible sources. For example, the Quran says Jews are deceptive and so forth. Here is what the talmud actually says about deceiving gentiles.
As for the hadith I quoted that you think is only quoted by bigots. I'm glad you agree, since it's in Hamas's charter and regularly quoted by Fatah as well as more or less everywhere else in the middle east. I'm glad you think such is bigotry. Why, then, do you expect Israel to negotiate and make concessions to such bigots when they have made no shows of good faith? Stop the settlements? They did that for a year. Didn't help at all. Withdrew from Gaza, they turned it into a base to fire tens of thousands of rockets from. No. Not all Muslims are like this, but the fact remains this is part of their doctrine
Christianity is homophobic and sexist. Those Christians who claim to practice their religion but refuse to condemn homosexuality (and relegate women to second class citizenship in church) are indeed hypocrites, as are the Christians who ignore Jesus's commands to turn the other cheek when confronted with violence. So then are Muslims who remain peaceful despite the very clear calls in their religion to violent Jihad (literally, struggle, but used almost without exception to refer to warfare). Read Sura 9 and tell me the Qur'an is peaceful because clearly it's you who hasn't read one. This doesn't mean all Christians are homophobic or all Muslims are violent but when they behave in such manners I DO indeed blame the religion. They're merely following the immutable commandments set forth by their infallible sky fairy, and because of abrogation in Islam, it will never, ever, mature into something relatively benign like the other religions.
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Re:Or go to the hores's mouth...
Peh. I trust the BBC about as much as I trust Pravda. They like to memory hole stories that don't fit their agenda after they've been published(Nov 9/12). You hear about the story about the luxury homes in the Palestinian territories that the Beeb did? Probably not. Because it was up for all of an hour before memory holed. It was a rather good bit of journalism they even included pictures of the overflowing markets and all the rest.
And when I say they scrubbed it, they scrubbed it. It was up and down so fast that not even google crawled it. But, some bloggers did catch it.
Except that it is still there on the BBC web site on November 11. Is this a new definition of "memory hole" where you put video up on your website for the entire world to view for several days? Also, two of your "bloggers" are actually the same blogger, one accessed via the Google Canadian URL and one via the Israeli one.
In fact, when I go to the main page Middle East news page http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/middle_east/ it is still one of the top video news stories listed on the right hand side. What the fuck are you talking about?
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Re:Or go to the hores's mouth...
Peh. I trust the BBC about as much as I trust Pravda. They like to memory hole stories that don't fit their agenda after they've been published(Nov 9/12). You hear about the story about the luxury homes in the Palestinian territories that the Beeb did? Probably not. Because it was up for all of an hour before memory holed. It was a rather good bit of journalism they even included pictures of the overflowing markets and all the rest.
And when I say they scrubbed it, they scrubbed it. It was up and down so fast that not even google crawled it. But,some bloggers did catch it.
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Re:Before we get the usual gaggle of fascists
I think the most scary thing from the poll you linked is that 8% of Muslims did not agree that: Muslims living in the U.S. do not sympathize with the al Qaeda terrorist organization.
This means that 1 in 12 Muslims interviewed could believe that Muslims living in the U.S. sympathize with an organisation who openly hates western society.
No need to believe polls when you can see open activity, arrests, and court cases.
The recruiter: Anwar al-Awlaki, portrait of an American jihadist CNN: Al-Awlaki threatens Americans
40 Americans Have Joined Al Qaeda Group
U.S.-educated Misunderstander of Islam pleads guilty to jihad war crimes, turns government witnessFBI’s Top Ten News Stories for the Week Ending January 27, 2012
Denver: Man Arrested for Providing Material Support to a Designated Foreign Terrorist Organization
Jamshid Muhtorov was arrested by members of the FBI’s Denver and Chicago Joint Terrorism Task Forces on a charge of providing and attempting to provide material support to the Islamic Jihad Union, a Pakistan-based designated foreign terrorist organization. Full Story
Baltimore: Man Pleads Guilty to Attempted Use of a Weapon of Mass Destruction in Plot to Attack Armed Forces Recruiting Center
U.S. citizen Antonio Martinez, aka Muhammad Hussain, pled guilty to attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction against federal property in connection with a scheme to attack an armed forces recruiting station in Catonsville, Maryland. Full Story
Washington Field: Man Pleads Guilty to Shootings at Pentagon, Other Military Buildings
Yonathan Melaku, of Alexandria, Virginia, pled guilty to damaging property and to firearms violations involving five separate shootings at military installations in northern Virginia between October and November 2010, and to attempting to damage veterans’ memorials at Arlington National Cemetery. Full Story
FBI’s Top Ten News Stories for the Week Ending January 13, 2012
1.Tampa: Florida Resident Charged with Plotting to Bomb Locations in Tampa
A 25-year-old resident of Pinellas Park, Florida was charged in connection with an alleged plot to attack locations in Tampa with a vehicle bomb, assault rifle, and other explosives. Full Story
2.Baltimore: Former Army Solider Charged with Attempting to Provide Material Support to al Shabaab
A man who secretly converted to Islam days before he separated from the Army was charged with attempting to provide material support to al Shabaab, a foreign terrorist organization, and was arrested upon his return to Maryland after traveling to Africa. Full Story
FBI’s Top Ten News Stories for the Week Ending December 9, 2011
Seattle: Man Pleads Guilty in Plot to Attack Military Processing Center
A former Los Angeles man pled guilty in connection with the June 2011 plot to attack a military installation in Seattle. Full Story
FBI’s Top Ten News Stories for the Week Ending December 2, 2011
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Re:The Taliban denied..
No offence meant to your brother here, but your evidence that the Taliban is evil is that your brother, a foreign soldier and member of an occupying army, has been attacked?
Wow.
Afghanistan has a legally formed government based on UN monitored elections. The Taliban is trying to overthrow that and reestablish their dictatorship. Along the way they are chopping off heads and hands, blowing up markets with bombs, hanging 7 year olds as spies, banning kite flying, destroying schools, driving out or killing foreign aid workers, and working hand in glove with the drug cartels. The main reason the brother was there to begin with was the Taliban government hosted Al Qaeda, who greatly admired the Talibans work in building a 7th century society, and allowed them to use Afghanistan as a base to conduct their campaigns of terror, shooting, bombing, and killing tens of thousands with the goal of bringing this sort of governance to the entire world in stages. None of this seems to set your "moral sensitivities" a tingling. All I can say is, wow. You don't really seem to have much claim to be a commentator on evil and other people's views. No offense.
When the Allies occupied Germany in 1945, who was evil then? Apparently it would be consistent with your thinking that it was the Allies.
Now that the US and its allies have withdrawn from Iraq, is this now a bad thing? Or was it still bad before?
Since the US and its NATO allies are still in Afghanistan, does that mean this is OK with you? How can it be bad if there are "occupiers" in the country?