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Did Trump hear about the kid who tried to use an IED at a school in Utah?

#BanBombs #BanIEDs

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Note that clause 5 is an indemnification clause. (If you don't know that that means, learn)

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The trailer bed was up high with significant overhang of the rear axle while the car sensors are down low - that's how it tucked up under the trailer and damaged the windshield. News footage with pictures.

The issue was the landing site wasn't properly approved for helicopter landings. Fortunately, the local officials are reasonable and Uber made an agreement with the County to use the Sheriff's landing pad instead so that flights could continue during the festival.

From a follow-up story: "Thanks to the county's proactive outreach, we have developed an alternative landing site for uberCHOPPER that serves riders and accommodates residents," Patterson said.

they've been flying directly over my condo all day (Monday Jan. 25th) according to the wife. Just heard another one 7:34PM!

The issue was the landing site wasn't properly approved for helicopter landings. Fortunately, the local officials are reasonable and Uber made an agreement with the County to use the Sheriff's landing pad instead so that flights could continue during the festival.

From a follow-up story: "Thanks to the county's proactive outreach, we have developed an alternative landing site for uberCHOPPER that serves riders and accommodates residents," Patterson said.

But it is full of Mormons

Utah is about 62% Mormon, but that is mostly in Utah county. SLC I would say is more like 40%

and the Beer Sucks

I have no idea about this, but I see a sorts of alcoholic drinks in stores and restaurants. In fact I have a friend that works for Backcountry and he says they hand out beer to everyone several times a day to celebrate wins.

SLC also gets China levels of smog

SLC does get inversion, but it is no where near China levels. However this even happened when the area was inhabited by Native Americans. https://www.ksl.com/?sid=23668... "Utah were between 60 and 80 micrograms". "Hong Kong measures 152 micrograms"

Everything is closed on a Sunday or after 8PM

I wish, but this is far from true. Very little is closed on Sunday, and my wife and I often go out to eat well after 8PM

The traffic is also VERY bad, I-15 comes to a complete halt everyday at about 8 AM and 4 PM

Traffic is not so bad unless you are in a construction zone and for obvious reasons it is worse. I live in Utah county and I can't remember the last time traffic stopped. When I travel up north it gets worse, but currently the only time traffic stops is at Point of the Mountain where they are widening the road.

Good Mexican food there is Taco Bell

False, Mexican food is probably my favorite style of food. Utah has some really good Mexican Restaurants like Cafe Rio, El Azteca, Brassas Mexican Grill and more. I have never been to Taco Bell since I have lived here.

So it is hard to feel sympathy for someone victimized by a system that they helped to create.

We've got the same thing, but at the state level.

Some former state AG's are charged with various money crimes. They include things like accepting large gifts that are mostly fairly weak (e.g. going on a houseboat vacation with long-time business-owner friends and not reporting it as a potential gift).

They repeated what happened when the police kicked down their door. The former AG was out of town, but police raided with guns drawn. His 17 year old daughter was in the shower at the time of the raid. From the news story: He said they ordered her out of the room with her hands in the air. Four agents wearing body armor pointed guns at her, including one who had a laser sight trained on her chest, he said. "How do you give back innocence to a 17-year-old? She's tiny. She's no threat," Shurtleff said. Eventually they gave her a towel before dragging the whole family onto the front lawn.

On the one hand, it is completely outrageous. On the other hand, this is the guy (and family) who helped champion that abusive police policy, and he participated in many raids that were identical to the one against him. It is such a rich irony that the guy's life is being destroyed by the same tools he used to destroy the lives of so many others.

In former AG Shurtleff's case, it is a dramatic irony worthy of a classic Greek tragedy. During his rise in political power he wanted these tools. For his three terms as the AG further built up the monster of aggressive police practices, and he dismissed and ignored claims by citizens about the abusive practices. But then very soon after leaving office, after he lost his political power, the terrible beast he created turns to attack him, and suddenly he cries to those now in power with the same words he dismissed when he was the beastmaster.

Dennis Hastert is in a similar situation. He spend many years of his career in politics writing laws and helping the government go after other politicians in the oversight committee, and even helped co-sponsor laws that destroyed personal privacy, despite warnings by privacy groups. He isn't charged with the crimes that actually or potentially harmed the child. He is charged for something that (when he was in power) he helped create. Not harming a child, not endangering another's welfare, but with trying to have a little privacy -- the same thing he helped destroy.

In California, for example, as many as 45 percent of the more than 8 million cell phone calls to 911 each year are for non-emergencies, officials said; in Sacramento, it could be as high as 80 percent. Those calls block the lines for callers who really need urgent help

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But national statistics say otherwise. One recent survey reported that 25 percent of all 911 calls are pranks, creating a dilemma for emergency agencies. And in 2003, another national study found that 70 percent of all cell phone calls to 911 are dialed inadvertently.

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Estimates suggest 20% of 911 calls are non-emergencies

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So, we've got 45%, 80%, 70% or 20% non-emergencies; and 25% fraudulent. Somehow, I don't have a lot of faith in these numbers.

We vaccinate. I"m old enough to remember measles, mumps and chickenpox. You don't have a up to date vaccination card your kid doesn't go to school around here. We call those antivaxers in California idiots and for good reason. I have a autistic child and I never blamed the vaccinations. Our modern society freaks out when kids walk home from a park on their own.

Why aren't they freaking about the little plague vectors walking around spreading disease to those to young to vacinate and those with weakened immune systems?

Currently they just don't fix problems in cars software unless there is a recall.
There haven't been any patches for the security holes associated with the electrical impulses causing doors to unlock (a patch requiring the door controller to get a cryptographic hello should do the trick), nor the issue allowing one remotely take control of a car, never mind the assorted annoyances that a software patch could fix.
If they were actually able to remotely patch a car there would be more questions about why they aren't making the patches, and they would rather not the focus be on them being cheap.

In other news, Daniel Burton, a former Word Perfect and Novell software engineer, is currently attempting the first bike ride (two wheels) to the South Pole. You can follow Daniel with live blog updates at http://epicsouthpole.blogspot.com/ Daniel has quite a story switching from programmer to cycling enthusiast http://www.ksl.com/?sid=25470585

A quick google search of turns up plenty of fires caused by road debris, some of which is much more minor than what the Teslas hit.

Car hits trash and catches on fire: http://www.ksl.com/?sid=25850334
Patrol car bursts into flames after hitting road debris: http://seguingazette.com/news/article_b24f9222-b0fb-11e1-bdef-0019bb2963f4.html
Car catches fire after running over mattress: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30315-2004Sep17.html
Car leaking gasoline catches fire likely due to road debris: http://www.turnto23.com/news/local-news/bakersfield-woman-helps-another-escape-vehicle-fire-on-coffee-road

Or it could be worse.

Metal road debris impales car, barely misses driver: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJUWXRWK4xs
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2012/09/14/unknown_to_driver_her_suv_is_impaled_on_metal_bar.html

Here is the scoop on the 70" telescope. Mike Clements purchased a polished but uncoated mirror that is 70" across that was intended for a spy satellite project that was cancelled. A huge uncoated mirror is not a telescope anymore than (car analogy - wait for it...) a V8 engine is a racecar. Building a good performing telescope (collimation tolerances are measured in thousandths of an inch) is a significant task, a huge telescope like this is a major engineering feat. What's more this is a transportable telescope. It is possibly the biggest transportable telescope in the world. This telescope is more powerful than any telescope that existed before 1917 (when the 100" Hooker telescope saw first light).

Successfully silvering the mirror using updated 19th Cedntury mirror coating technology was nifty too.

From another site: Clements began began building a steel structure to house the mirror in 2012. He did it without formal training in telescope construction or welding and without any blueprints. "He's got nothing on paper," said Clements' friend, Steve Dodds. "He did make a model out of popsicle sticks." Clements finished the telescope and in late September, he said he put a reflective coating on the mirror with a weed sprayer.

Cloudy nights thread and a another news article.

It was silvered with a spray-on solution using a weed sprayer; much too large for the regular vacuum deposition chambers.

-R C

Well, some cops are given incentives to care:

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=27376993&nid=148&title=emails-reveal-incentives-behind-cottonwood-police-issuing-tickets&fm=home_page&s_cid=featured-1

Spontaneous Combustion? Naw, just a little water would be all that's needed and it wouldn't matter if the power source is one big lump, like a bunch of batteries next to each other or spread out all over the car, taking your house with it.

To your other point, auto manufacturers have been shifting more and more technology into cars which prevents your local mom and pop car repair from fixing them requiring dealer only servicing or programming services. Even then, you can't get things fixed properly, even with headlights. Auto manufacturers aren't the only ones trying to squeeze third party repair technicians out of the market, Nikon stopped selling parts to camera repair shops last year.

I live close to the new NSA data center in Bluffdale, Utah. Currently we are under a drought with widespread municipal water restrictions, yet the NSA surveillance center requires 1.7M gallons of water daily to operate.

Water rationing guarantees more cheap water for big industry. Power rationing guarantees that big industry does not need to produce more energy for the same rates. Let's not get into recycling. All these things are taken to the extreme, making normal people's lives harder, and rich people's easier. Don't take more than you need, but never feel guilted into taking less.

the NSA surveillance center requires 1.7M gallons of water daily to operate.

How else do expect them to get all that water-boarding done . . . ?

Tip the veal, try the waitress . . .

I live close to the new NSA data center in Bluffdale, Utah. Currently we are under a drought with widespread municipal water restrictions, yet the NSA surveillance center requires 1.7M gallons of water daily to operate.

20 seconds on google, and I found this example:

On Tuesday, Behling pleaded guilty in 7th District Court to two counts of reckless endangerment, a class A misdemeanor, and the other charges were dismissed.

Plead guilty to lesser charges, save the court a bunch of expense in trials and appeals, and they'll happily reduce or eliminate manslaughter charges, unless your case is exceptional in some way.

I'm getting a bit of a conspiracy theory vibe here. They have no reason to keep this place a secret. In fact it is in their best interests to not keep it a secret. It's why they sailed nuclear submarines out of harbors on the surface. It was important for the enemy to know that the thing set sail and then it disappeared. It's important for the existence of this facility to exist as well as its purpose. As to what it is, the power consumption is a very large indicator. Those numbers are not made up by managed media reports either. They did numerous power studies around the country before selecting a location to build. That amount of power is consistent with Data Center usage from Facebook, Google, Microsoft data centers. The facility has a dozen or so employees and that is it. This is a server farm that needs minimal maintenance. This is simply a massive server farm. Every bit of data points to that. The design of the facility, it's power requirements, the cooling facilities, staff numbers, etc. I'm sorry. Trust media or not, the numbers don't lie. And yes, it has been built and operating for years in other places. They have data facilities all over the country. There is no secret to that and never really has been. This is simply the largest single facility they have ever built. http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=13908592 http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=19615060 http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=13896111 http://businessfacilities.com/articles/industry-focus/centers-of-job-creation/

I'm getting a bit of a conspiracy theory vibe here. They have no reason to keep this place a secret. In fact it is in their best interests to not keep it a secret. It's why they sailed nuclear submarines out of harbors on the surface. It was important for the enemy to know that the thing set sail and then it disappeared. It's important for the existence of this facility to exist as well as its purpose. As to what it is, the power consumption is a very large indicator. Those numbers are not made up by managed media reports either. They did numerous power studies around the country before selecting a location to build. That amount of power is consistent with Data Center usage from Facebook, Google, Microsoft data centers. The facility has a dozen or so employees and that is it. This is a server farm that needs minimal maintenance. This is simply a massive server farm. Every bit of data points to that. The design of the facility, it's power requirements, the cooling facilities, staff numbers, etc. I'm sorry. Trust media or not, the numbers don't lie. And yes, it has been built and operating for years in other places. They have data facilities all over the country. There is no secret to that and never really has been. This is simply the largest single facility they have ever built. http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=13908592 http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=19615060 http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=13896111 http://businessfacilities.com/articles/industry-focus/centers-of-job-creation/

I'm getting a bit of a conspiracy theory vibe here. They have no reason to keep this place a secret. In fact it is in their best interests to not keep it a secret. It's why they sailed nuclear submarines out of harbors on the surface. It was important for the enemy to know that the thing set sail and then it disappeared. It's important for the existence of this facility to exist as well as its purpose. As to what it is, the power consumption is a very large indicator. Those numbers are not made up by managed media reports either. They did numerous power studies around the country before selecting a location to build. That amount of power is consistent with Data Center usage from Facebook, Google, Microsoft data centers. The facility has a dozen or so employees and that is it. This is a server farm that needs minimal maintenance. This is simply a massive server farm. Every bit of data points to that. The design of the facility, it's power requirements, the cooling facilities, staff numbers, etc. I'm sorry. Trust media or not, the numbers don't lie. And yes, it has been built and operating for years in other places. They have data facilities all over the country. There is no secret to that and never really has been. This is simply the largest single facility they have ever built. http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=13908592 http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=19615060 http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=13896111 http://businessfacilities.com/articles/industry-focus/centers-of-job-creation/

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=19748145&nid=1014&title=tacocopter-would-deliver-tacos-via-unmanned-drone&s_cid=featured-4

The ability to have tacos delivered at their feet is an idea many people wouldn't hesitate to get behind - especially when the tacos are being delivered by a robot. The Tacocopter - an unmanned drone helicopter that gives customers tacos on demand - would without a doubt be wildly popular were it to exist throughout the world. All you need is the GPS location and hot sauce!.

One of the problems is that "following too closely" isn't an offense, or any kind of problem at all. Simply put, there's absolutely nothing dangerous about it. If it were, there would be some kind of enforcement against it.

You don't know what you are talking about.

Interview l heard on the radio to come to these conclusions:
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=14661633
(click the "Interview with Gov Herbert" link on the right side of the video pane)

Layoffs today
ATK makes the main SRM for the shuttle and the proposed Ares I rocket.

Mormons actually live longer than the general population: http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=10378579

That's not the actual research article but this is: http://www.scientificintegrityinstitute.org/prevmed2008lifestyle&mormonmortalityenstrom.pdf

. Here are the tables from the article: http://www.scientificintegrityinstitute.org/prevmed2007lifestyle&mormonmortalityenstromappendix.pdf

they don't just go off when they get dropped or smacked.

Yes they do. But I agree, it is extremely rare. More importantly, if you point a socket wrench at someone, or accidentally touch the trigger of a drill, there's virtually no chance that you or someone you love can immediately die.

A knife, a baseball bat, a crowbar all accomplish the same thing when she's asleep. The tool used has no bearing on intent.

http://www.psychwiki.com/wiki/300979125-Weapons

The presence of weapons are known to increase the danger of aggressive behavior. I thought I had read an article, but I can't find it, so just call this a hunch: it takes a hell of a lot more commitment to pick up a crowbar and beat someone to death with it than it takes to pull a trigger.

The gun, however, is an easy scapegoat for a more serious problem in society that would lead a young child to kill their parental figures.

The gun, the handgun especially, is probably the only tool that would allow a child to kill their parents. They can try to set a fire, or stab them, but a gun is far more likely to get the job done.

Correction - guns are designed to move a projectile. Their use can be either to destroy life, or protect life. The choice rests with the individual.

Most guns, especially handguns, have no other purpose than to kill human beings.

The problem with regulation, is that only law abiding citizens obey. Marijuana, cocaine, and many other drugs are all regulated. Doesn't stop their spread.

Oh really?

America's level of gun violence cannot be attributed to urbanization alone as international comparisons show. Singapore has the second highest population density in the world (almost 6,814 people per square kilometer, or about 50% more densely populated than Chicago, Illinois) but has the lowest level of gun violence of all the countries in the table above. Its rate of gun violence is 99 times lower than that of the United States which is 200 times less densely populated. The only way for a civilian to own a firearm in Singapore is to acquire an Arm & Explosives license.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence

So knowing that,

Which is false...

why would you suggest we regulate a tool that is the most effective device known to man to protect life? I would not want to defend myself with merely a kitchen knife if my assailant was wielding a gun. Regardless of the fact that its illegal in every state to commit a crime while carrying a gun. Obviously my attacker didn't read that law, otherwise he would have not carried a gun while he was attacking me in my kitchen.

It's probably too late to ban handguns in America - there are tens of millions of them by now. But the easier you make it to obtain a handgun, the more likely someone is going to shoot you. If living in the wild west where everyone is armed to the teeth, constantly pulling out their handguns, and in the process, killin each other and anyone unfortunate enough to be nearby, might I recommend taking up residence in Venezuela or Colombia? They're just as fanatical about their guns as you seem to be.

The real issue I have with the NRA is that no one is suggesting that we legalize driving for twelve year olds. The practical difference between that and pushing for youth gun ownership is no different. We have licensing restrictions, learning permits, and DUI laws because cars are extremely dangerous, even though they are not designed for the purpose of killing someone.

Ronnie Lee Gardner didn't die "before he hit the ground", and the shots were very accurate. From the linked eyewirness account:

Some 30 seconds later, and without warning, a loud "ba-BOOM" repeats through the chamber. The target is hit in what appears to be four places: two shots hitting very near the bulls-eye in the middle; another bullet within the first circle but lower and to the right. The fourth hits the target in the lower left corner, outside both the circle and the bulls-eye.

Gardner still moves. From the witness area to the left of his body, his left thumb is still tracing a circular pattern. His left arm then clenches, slowly raises up a couple of inches, straining against the straps binding him, then back down. Then up. Then down....

He still moves. It seems to last a long time, but we later learn it was only about a minute and a half.

I'm not arguing it wasn't comparatively humane, but he didn't die within seconds.

Congratulations to Knome on a PR scheme that's getting them mainstream advertising for almost no money. I haven't seen this much bogosity from actual scientists since they shot John Glenn into space to "learn about the effects on space on old people".

I'm sure they'll find the drug abuse resistance gene in no time. (Which seems like a really priority scientific endeavor.)

Will their next genetic decoding involve LiLo? TMZ wants to know.

Just an update, the woman was NOT from Utah, but from Los Angeles County.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=10993315

Link to article updating this info. Makes me feel better that the moron in question wasn't local.

These devices don't rely on a camera, they recorded the PIN as it was punched in. And TFA would cite the one agency that reported 180 pumps, everyone else is saying it was the pumps at only one or two stations. The key weakness in this situation is that two manufacturers make all the pumps used nationwide. And they each have A single key that works on all pumps they make.

Get one of those keys and accessing the internals of the pumps is a piece of cake. This article talks about this event and one local chain that had anticipated and addressed this weakness. KSL News

It's not just the mining though, it's the Power usage too. From this site (which seems to be a pro-coal lobbyists group website, but the numbers are similar to other sites) says that 90% of Utah's power comes from coal.

Utah's Lawmakers are cheap, corrupt beings. Here is a story about a legislator pusing for a nuclear power plant that he has a direct stake in. Hell, they even built an Office in the Capitol building for Lobbyists.

Good point! Why should I pay for schools? I have no children.

But you did to school at one time correct?

I went to private, public, and home school. My times in the public schools were some of the worst in my life. I would NEVER send a kid to one of them.

You wouldn't pay for telephone service if you did not own a telephone, right? I think it is perfectly fair for someone to opt-out of a government "service" they do not use. It is fair to pay for what you use. It is not fair to pay for something you will never use.

I guess you will never use emergency services either then so there is no point in you paying for it.

That depends on the service they are offering. Police? no.. I would not pay for them, I don't call them either.. they usually just make situations worse. I would pay for "peace officers", but not the current batch of thugs fresh out of Iraq. They might arrest me for a disorderly lawn. (like this 70 year old grandma! http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=1444771 what ever happened to the police who helped people?) Ambulance service already is private and the Fire service is partly volunteer anyhow. Emergency services are something people want and it's not unrealistic for people to pay for them, I would absolutely pay a monthly fee for security, fire and other emergency services just like I pay for insurance against damage and theft. Nothing is "free" and my cost paying directly would surely be less overall.

Somehow I think you disagree.. now before you start spouting off about "society" and other collectivist terms like the last guy, ask yourself this:

If garbage service *was* optional in your area and provided by the city, but also by a private contractor that you preferred and used, would you voluntarily help your well off neighbor pay for his city garbage collection service? If you would, how much would you voluntarily pay him, what level of burden would you take on? If you wouldn't voluntarily do it, then why do you think it is it ok to make it law and force someone to?

I think I would rather spend money on the public transportation then some war that was only started for oil and is draining more tax dollars then the public transportation system would in 100 years

Ok then, maybe your starting to see my point. YOU can pay for public transportation YOU want, that's perfectly fair. What's not fair is making ME pay for something YOU want. I also absolutely support your decision to stop paying for a war you do not support. I do not think you should pay. Perhaps if there were more people out there that stood up to the government and did not pay.. it would end a lot sooner. Unfortunately few people do and since it's so few, they are typically deemed "radical" and are usually either jailed or killed by the feds..

As it should be. My comment was tongue-in-cheek. Since I live in the fucked up state of Utah, I'll share with you my nomination for asshat of the year award. I don't keep up with current events all that much, but I heard that this made national/world news coverage. :)

And it kills stupid eagles, who despite being stupid are still cool.

I can't be bothered to look up the articles, but I've read on many occasions that the danger to birds is an overblown straw man, as the windows of houses and building kill far more birds each year. It also seems that cars kill plenty of birds, as well.

Given the broad range of things that gets you the tag "sex offender" (and a lovely scarlet "S" in the bargain), the whole sex offender registry thing is kinda silly. I mean, if you got a citation for pissing in the bushes at your local park, and got into your state's sex offender registry, would *you* really take the restrictions seriously? I sure as hell wouldn't. And I imagine that "real" sex offenders wouldn't either -- at least the ones who are total morons, anyway.

hahaha! And here I was thinking you were talking about this.

One of the radio stations I work for (see http://ksl.com/) is still the only real radio station I know of that makes large portions of its own daily programming available in podcast format.

microsoft has used "generic error" messages to discriminate against users of software it doesn't like.

After winning awards and besting MS-DOS in virtually every comparison, DR-DOS had the rug pulled out from under it when Microsoft released a beta version of Windows 3.0 that detected DR-DOS and gave bogus error messages.

print the article while you can. now that the records from the caldera trial have been destroyed (along with the copy of the beta they managed to find for the trial, no doubt), microsoft will undoubted resume claiming it's an urban legend, if they have't already, and all mention of this little bit of history is rapidly vanishing from the virtual world as well. pathetic.

the destruction of the caldera trial documents has been mentioned on slashdot once or twice, and i commented on it both times. pity nobody cared. oh well. history repeats itself again.

I guess once they got their high-speed net to all the city buildings and schools, their interest pretty much fizzled, leaving the city-zens still not quite on of the game... I still can't get DSL.

http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?sid=119041&nid=5

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Potatoes stop bleeding too. I thought I originally read this on Slashdot, but Google is not being helpful. Actually, it's like dried potatoe flakes or powder. But the story is the same, it near instantly stops bleeding.

This is the military and CIA not the NYPD, these guys aren't going to go on trial, they are going to be executed the moment they are located.

There is a recent news article about a soldier and a widow suing a man associated with Al Qaeda. They wouldn't be able to use such evidence either.

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595048931,00 .html

http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?nid=5&sid=81082

There are some. The major news/talk radio station in my area (KSL Radio) has an OGG stream, for example. It's no CNN, but it's a start.

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