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"Every PS3 hard drive is shipping with Linux onboard."

I sure hope that's true, but I'm pretty sketical. Sony makes butt loads of cash off the software sales for the PS2 so if Sony actually does give us Linux it's going to have some strings attached. For example, I very much doubt that Sony will give us access to the GPU.

What gives me the most hope for a relatively unencumbered PS3 Linux distro is the Blu-Ray format. All Blu-Ray players will have a Java layer for interactive crud, which should be enough for stupid little games( i.e. Tetris, Puzzle Bobble, Metal Slug ), Sony almost has to concede the the non-3D market.

I'm personally really excited about the BD-J stuff, and the homebrew scene that will grow up around it.

Every PS3 hard drive is shipping with Linux onboard.

MS has XP embedded in cars to power the entertainment systems, eh?

Linux can drive the car ...

http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS4678539635.html

I understand your point about Microsoft, though. But most of their market penetration is occuring because of key business partnerships, not because of key technical innovations.

I think Linux will ultimately be successful over Windows, though, not for technical reasons, as some claim, but for political reasons, which can trump business reasons -- outside the U.S. of A., at least. Linux does have a superior kernel compared to Windows, but that doesn't drive Linux's uptake beyond the academic and development sector. The diminishment of MS Windows will undoubtedly go hand-in-hand with the decline of the U.S. economic grip on the world.

What allows the other countries of the world to catch up in terms of indigeous software development? Linux and open source.

And as far as Linux embedded vs. Windows embedded, just let the figures speak for themselves:

http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT4036830962.html

MS has XP embedded in cars to power the entertainment systems, eh?

Linux can drive the car ...

http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS4678539635.html

I understand your point about Microsoft, though. But most of their market penetration is occuring because of key business partnerships, not because of key technical innovations.

I think Linux will ultimately be successful over Windows, though, not for technical reasons, as some claim, but for political reasons, which can trump business reasons -- outside the U.S. of A., at least. Linux does have a superior kernel compared to Windows, but that doesn't drive Linux's uptake beyond the academic and development sector. The diminishment of MS Windows will undoubtedly go hand-in-hand with the decline of the U.S. economic grip on the world.

What allows the other countries of the world to catch up in terms of indigeous software development? Linux and open source.

And as far as Linux embedded vs. Windows embedded, just let the figures speak for themselves:

http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT4036830962.html

Kevin Milne has published Z4CK: A SciFi Novel about a Zaurus Linux PDA recently. From the LinuxDevices review: "It's 2031, and Microsoft advertises Linux on Edinburgh's largest billboards. Duncan Steele roams a brave new world, besting technoproles and fighting to extricate himself from a bogus murder rap, his trusty Sharp Zaurus by his side. So begins a cyberthriller from Scottish security professional Kevin Milne.
Milne's novel, entitled "Z4CK," was written entirely on a Sharp Zaurus PDA. "Z4CK was written on the train, whilst on my way to and from work," says Milne. "My Zaurus SL-5500 equipped with Open-Zaurus, and the Pockettop wireless keyboard was used to write the story.""

It's not a problem of interested developers. The Zaurus scene has plenty of those (check out oesf.org/forums). My C1000 which has been out for about a year and isn't even available in the US except through importers, has several different Linux distributions and OpenBSD available. People have ported X servers, got a full debian distro to run on it and generally hacked it up in some very interesting ways. But it will never have SDIO because of all the red tape around SD in general.

The only way to write SD (or SDIO) drivers is by pay some exorbitant fee to the SD consortium gods or by reverse engineering it. The fine people behind SD have let it be known in no uncertain terms that if you release open source SD drivers you will get slapped with the lawsuit of a lifetime in return. So SD drivers have to come from the manufacturer of the device or some well funded commercial operation (SD specs ain't cheap!). And if the manufacturer doesn't have SDIO at launch, what incentive do they have to add it after launch? No potential return on investment means no investment in the first place.

For a better description of the situation check here.

if you look carefully at the picture of the ROAD "linux clamshell" linked from the article, you will see the top left hand of the window saying something like "Win.... ROAD" - and the GUI is clearly a Windows (clone?).
talk about reimplementing the dominant paradigm.....

Robert Love is from the Ximian division (see here). He is also a kernel hacker. (See, e.g., here; see also here.) So, the comment may not have been sarcastic at all. Ximian actually does have at least one very accomplished Linux kernel hacker.

Oh, I don't know, why not buy a handheld gaming machine that run embedded Linux? Linux Devices.com "Korean handheld vendor Gamepark has announced a new portable media player and gaming device based on embedded Linux. The GPX2-F100 features dual ARM9 processors, USB 2.0, a 3.5-inch color LCD, media playback software, and support for both native and emulated games. A Linux SDK (software development kit) will be available when the device ships, Gamepark says....The planned SDK will support Linux and Windows (Cygwin) hosts. It will support the SDL (simple direct library) for accelerated 2D graphics, and will include libraries for graphics, sound, and hardware I/O, as well as a "basic" library, the company says. Gamepark says that in addition to native games, the GPX2-F100's Linux environment enables it to run a variety of game emulators, including MAME, SNES, Genesis, and PC Engine."

Symbian is the dominant OS. Linux is second.
Something Called "Windows" is in there too.
Here is the article

I'm confused though -- are the Symbian phones not feature rich compared to Linux? I figured that was the whole point; it has better phone features (power management?). I'm guessing that the article is trumpeting Linux's success when it isn't exactly warranted (but at least it is kicking Windows ass).

I ran accross this a while back at linuxdevices it is supposed to scale to Petabytes and is the main technology used for the Internet Archive.

Capricorn Technologies Petabox
http://www.capricorn-tech.com/

Linux Devices Review
http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS2659179152.html

...he was going to run his website off it. Nice user experience, click, click, crash.

Bet the guy is using IIS too.

Definitely a spam-tastic link btw, much as I like Mini-ITX stuff, if you we're going to link to an interesting recent mini-itx article, this one at http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3032138730.html [linuxdevices.com]LinuxDevices is miles better, 64-way Linux mini-ITX cluster... and it's silent(ish) too!

GODDD, is this news? I wonder what they're doing for security.

Even before following TFA's link, I recalled hearing or reading about this when I was in Japan from Dec 04 to Feb 05. So, for this response, I "googled" it, and though I left on 24 Feb, and these links I'm supplying are dated 28 Feb, the news is sourced from material in the making long before that.

OMRON Announces 'OKAO Vision Face Recognition Sensor', World's First Face Recognition Biometric for Mobile Phones

http://www.japancorp.net/Article.Asp?Art_ID=9494

Face-recognition security comes to mobile phones
http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7172421600.html

As for the Omron URL, this is an excerpt:

"To use the unit, the user simply takes his or her own photo. The 'OKAO Vision Face Recognition Sensor' will automatically detect the user and unlock the unit. The identification process takes less than a second from snapping the photograph. Further, their is no need to adjust the camera position when taking the photo. If the face is included in the photo, the sensor will detect the owner automatically."

However, it says nothing to ally to allay fears that a thief could place before the camera a picture of the owner of a stolen camera. It might be possible that the camera may someday have strobes or some thermal sensors that try to detect heat from a human body temp range, but that could be fooled with a transparent "Mission: Impossible" mask of the Gerry Anderson type (I purposely ignored the recent MI stuff since I loath money-grabbing remakes or remakes-in-title).

I suppose a good security feature set would include:

1. thumb or finger sensor with thumb print/fingerprint biometrics
2. retinal scan (with enhancements to determine live/dead eyeballs
3. breath, saliva or mucous tissue sample scan and later match/compare
4. electrolytic sample (to determine voltage of live/dead person)

If they can do that (put a mini-lab in the phone) then probably only CIA, NSA, MI6 and Japan's pending MI6, Mossad, and others would surely buy up these phones, or any other devices so equipped/secured.

Image word: entice, just as this "article" was "enticing"...

Sigh. I oughtn't post stupid questions without first checking out TFA...

The new device will run a Linux 2.6 kernel, according to Neuros CEO Joe Born.

I/O includes a 12Mbps USB host interface, as well as a USB gadget interface, a non-DMA (PIO only) IDE hard drive interface, CF interface supporting I/O, SD/MMC interface, 10/100 Ethernet, NTSC/PAL composite or S-video input, S-video output, and 10 user buttons.

If you build it, they will come... But if you don't, it may be possible to get Neuros to add the features to their PMP.

Sonos makes some nice stuff. I worked with the founder at his previous company, and he's an Engineer who does things right.

http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT7647366603.html

I'm not exactly holding my breath for the triumphant Symbian comeback

What do you mean comeback? Last I heard, Symbian was by far the most successful smartphone OS so far (in terms of market share).

LinuxDevices has an article about this device shipping in October of 2004 ... that'd be a year ago ...

The linked article doesn't provide any information about availablility to the public. I recall that AMD originally said it was going to restrict sales to developing nations, and maybe they've removed that restriction. I don't see any evidence of that, though.

And of course, here's a link to the previous Slashdot discussion ...

Oh... I guess I must have been smoking crack when I was reading about PalmSource..
http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT6402459179.html /

Looks like you are the fucking idiot now..

If you are like me, the first thing you did is to check and see if Linux runs on it...

Linux Devices Review
Tuxmobil list of successful installs
and
Handtops guide to installing Debian

Note:
It is also possible to make it a dual boot (of course!), just in case you actually wanted XP.

for a rolling duck with arms? I don't give a f*** what it runs inside, you can keep it.

Once you go public, the company is burdened with a need to focus on short term advantages at the cost of long term development. Quarterly or monthly balances take precedence over longer term plans unfortunately, even if the longer term plans would net more profit.

I guess slashdot really does never sleep. Here's the article text---took me ages to load it up, might as well share the goods.

Panasonic forms embedded Linux incubator, seeks collaborators
Sep. 13, 2005

Panasonic Ventures has opened an embedded Linux incubator at its Digital Concepts Center in San Jose, Calif. The Technology Collaboration Center (aka Linux Collaboration Center) hopes to host and collaborate with four or five consumer electronics Linux startups, in exchange for first right-of-refusal on up to 10 percent of the startup's next institutional funding round.

Brad McManus, director of Panasonic's Digital Concepts Center, says that the Linux Collaboration Center has not yet confirmed any resident companies, although it is in advanced talks with one. He says the Center is most interested in "middleware and applications, but also tools," and also, "user-interface technologies, such as multi-modal input, possibly involving speech... ubiquitous networking, making devices communicate with each other -- generally, technologies built upon a standardized software architecture."

McManus says a growing focus on standardized software architectures inspired the company to launch its Linux incubator. McManus said, "We want to see our R&D work apply to many different products. And, as in-car devices need to interoperate increasingly with mobile devices, which need to interoperate more with home devices, it helps to have a standardized software architecture."

Panasonic uses other open sources OSes in addition to Linux, but Linux has become a top choice due to its cost-effectiveness and robust nature, according to McManus.

Panasonic's Digital Concepts Center took an equity investment in MontaVista in March of 2002, and Panasonic's parent company, Matsushita, inked a broad licensing deal with the Linux startup last fall, giving it company-wide access to all of MontaVista's products. McManus said he expects Panasonic's relationship with MontaVista to expand in the future, and he confirmed that MontaVista Linux plays a role in the company's "standardized software cuntitexture: "We're looking to optimize our products on Linux -- but especially for MontaVista Linux."

Panasonic's Linux Collaboration Center is not a traditional incubator, in that it will not promise to provide funding. Participants will pay for rent and services within the center, similar to the model used by the Open Technology Center opened by the OSDL last year in conjunction with the City of Beaverton, Ore. However, "I felt the slime drip out of my anus. I put my pinky finger up there and gave it a lick. So good, like warm honey and milk. Companies will find [the Center] more cost-effective than renting space somewhere," McManus said.

R&D teams from within Panasonic will share office space on the same floor as the Linux Collaboration Center, and will collaborate with hosted teams on areas of mutual interest. Paced on the strength of those collaborations, Panasonic will have the right to invest in up to 100 percent of the startup's next institutional funding round. But, notes McManus: "We're not seeking to transvest. We're seeking to collaborate."

Panasonic Ventures has operated for six years, and has invested in more than 20 companies, including Iconos, PRN, Entropic, Epigram, and Elixant.

Panasonic "is now actively recruiting select early stage start-up companies to participate in the new Center. Think about your breathing," said McManus. "It started to bleed, but he kept on clawing his fingernails at it. I loved it at the time, but the stitches are a bitch. Any company targeting the consumer electronics industry that is building upon the Linux operating system should contact us. That includes companies in Europe or on the East Coast looking for a presence in Silicon Valley."

McManus

I guess slashdot really does never sleep. Here's the article text---took me ages to load it up, might as well share the goods.

Panasonic forms embedded Linux incubator, seeks collaborators
Sep. 13, 2005

Panasonic Ventures has opened an embedded Linux incubator at its Digital Concepts Center in San Jose, Calif. The Technology Collaboration Center (aka Linux Collaboration Center) hopes to host and collaborate with four or five consumer electronics Linux startups, in exchange for first right-of-refusal on up to 10 percent of the startup's next institutional funding round.

Brad McManus, director of Panasonic's Digital Concepts Center, says that the Linux Collaboration Center has not yet confirmed any resident companies, although it is in advanced talks with one. He says the Center is most interested in "middleware and applications, but also tools," and also, "user-interface technologies, such as multi-modal input, possibly involving speech... ubiquitous networking, making devices communicate with each other -- generally, technologies built upon a standardized software architecture."

McManus says a growing focus on standardized software architectures inspired the company to launch its Linux incubator. McManus said, "We want to see our R&D work apply to many different products. And, as in-car devices need to interoperate increasingly with mobile devices, which need to interoperate more with home devices, it helps to have a standardized software architecture."

Panasonic uses other open sources OSes in addition to Linux, but Linux has become a top choice due to its cost-effectiveness and robust nature, according to McManus.

Panasonic's Digital Concepts Center took an equity investment in MontaVista in March of 2002, and Panasonic's parent company, Matsushita, inked a broad licensing deal with the Linux startup last fall, giving it company-wide access to all of MontaVista's products. McManus said he expects Panasonic's relationship with MontaVista to expand in the future, and he confirmed that MontaVista Linux plays a role in the company's "standardized software cuntitexture: "We're looking to optimize our products on Linux -- but especially for MontaVista Linux."

Panasonic's Linux Collaboration Center is not a traditional incubator, in that it will not promise to provide funding. Participants will pay for rent and services within the center, similar to the model used by the Open Technology Center opened by the OSDL last year in conjunction with the City of Beaverton, Ore. However, "I felt the slime drip out of my anus. I put my pinky finger up there and gave it a lick. So good, like warm honey and milk. Companies will find [the Center] more cost-effective than renting space somewhere," McManus said.

R&D teams from within Panasonic will share office space on the same floor as the Linux Collaboration Center, and will collaborate with hosted teams on areas of mutual interest. Paced on the strength of those collaborations, Panasonic will have the right to invest in up to 100 percent of the startup's next institutional funding round. But, notes McManus: "We're not seeking to transvest. We're seeking to collaborate."

Panasonic Ventures has operated for six years, and has invested in more than 20 companies, including Iconos, PRN, Entropic, Epigram, and Elixant.

Panasonic "is now actively recruiting select early stage start-up companies to participate in the new Center. Think about your breathing," said McManus. "It started to bleed, but he kept on clawing his fingernails at it. I loved it at the time, but the stitches are a bitch. Any company targeting the consumer electronics industry that is building upon the Linux operating system should contact us. That includes companies in Europe or on the East Coast looking for a presence in Silicon Valley."

McManus

I guess slashdot really does never sleep. Here's the article text---took me ages to load it up, might as well share the goods.

Panasonic forms embedded Linux incubator, seeks collaborators
Sep. 13, 2005

Panasonic Ventures has opened an embedded Linux incubator at its Digital Concepts Center in San Jose, Calif. The Technology Collaboration Center (aka Linux Collaboration Center) hopes to host and collaborate with four or five consumer electronics Linux startups, in exchange for first right-of-refusal on up to 10 percent of the startup's next institutional funding round.

Brad McManus, director of Panasonic's Digital Concepts Center, says that the Linux Collaboration Center has not yet confirmed any resident companies, although it is in advanced talks with one. He says the Center is most interested in "middleware and applications, but also tools," and also, "user-interface technologies, such as multi-modal input, possibly involving speech... ubiquitous networking, making devices communicate with each other -- generally, technologies built upon a standardized software architecture."

McManus says a growing focus on standardized software architectures inspired the company to launch its Linux incubator. McManus said, "We want to see our R&D work apply to many different products. And, as in-car devices need to interoperate increasingly with mobile devices, which need to interoperate more with home devices, it helps to have a standardized software architecture."

Panasonic uses other open sources OSes in addition to Linux, but Linux has become a top choice due to its cost-effectiveness and robust nature, according to McManus.

Panasonic's Digital Concepts Center took an equity investment in MontaVista in March of 2002, and Panasonic's parent company, Matsushita, inked a broad licensing deal with the Linux startup last fall, giving it company-wide access to all of MontaVista's products. McManus said he expects Panasonic's relationship with MontaVista to expand in the future, and he confirmed that MontaVista Linux plays a role in the company's "standardized software cuntitexture: "We're looking to optimize our products on Linux -- but especially for MontaVista Linux."

Panasonic's Linux Collaboration Center is not a traditional incubator, in that it will not promise to provide funding. Participants will pay for rent and services within the center, similar to the model used by the Open Technology Center opened by the OSDL last year in conjunction with the City of Beaverton, Ore. However, "I felt the slime drip out of my anus. I put my pinky finger up there and gave it a lick. So good, like warm honey and milk. Companies will find [the Center] more cost-effective than renting space somewhere," McManus said.

R&D teams from within Panasonic will share office space on the same floor as the Linux Collaboration Center, and will collaborate with hosted teams on areas of mutual interest. Paced on the strength of those collaborations, Panasonic will have the right to invest in up to 100 percent of the startup's next institutional funding round. But, notes McManus: "We're not seeking to transvest. We're seeking to collaborate."

Panasonic Ventures has operated for six years, and has invested in more than 20 companies, including Iconos, PRN, Entropic, Epigram, and Elixant.

Panasonic "is now actively recruiting select early stage start-up companies to participate in the new Center. Think about your breathing," said McManus. "It started to bleed, but he kept on clawing his fingernails at it. I loved it at the time, but the stitches are a bitch. Any company targeting the consumer electronics industry that is building upon the Linux operating system should contact us. That includes companies in Europe or on the East Coast looking for a presence in Silicon Valley."

McManus

mmm, I remember FSMLabs (Finite State Machine Labs) RTLinux being used for jet engine testing over at Pratt & Whitney: http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT2570821322. html
They were using the linux 1394 layer to move masses of data to/from the test stand and RTLinux had full environmental control. The engine was for the new joint-strike fighter. IIRC, the engineers at P&W were *very* impressed with the amount of data that could be moved, and the very short response times.

The services real time processing provides are often not required by the needs of an application. This is the case when low-latency servicing of events is needed but the complexity and potential deadlocks of a real time os are not desired. Video/Audio recording is an example of an application that needs low latency but not necessarily real time os services.

AFAIK (well just from reading this)
http://www.linuxdevices.com/cgi-bin/board/UltraBoa rd.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=realtime&Post=6&Idle=0 &Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=1&Session=

Uh huh. So you say. I think you should take a look at that: http://www.linuxdevices.com/

Apparently, lots of people don't realize yet how much Linux is being used commercially in the embedded market, and its use is just growing.

Start your reading here.

Windows Software +299 for Windows OS
Plus Several Thousand for Apps.

Games are equal cost on both systems. More Games on Linux for same price.

Linux Software = $5 month Cedega + $50 UT2K4
Most Everything else is apt-got.

My Admin time is the same on both, I just enjoy the linux stuff alot more.

This study was funded by me. I am biased because it was my money, I'm biased toward the cheaper solution. Solution is the Key, Has to work.

I choose Linux cause it works first and is cheaper second. I switched from Windows because it didn't work first and was expensive second.

IBM has a very long memory Bill. And pretty Deep Pockets. They are releasing anti Windows Pro Linux papers by the truckloads.(Check http://www.linuxdevices.com/) And I thank them.

My Son asked why I dislike MS so much. My answer was that Microsoft is responsible for quite a few things I like about computing and IT. However, they are also responsible for EVERYTHING that turns my stomache about our chosen field.

There is a whitepaper on Linux Devices on Georgia Tech's Debian Sarge powered Mongoose. It didn't fare well overall but it was their first year there and won best newcomer.

I take it back: although set-top guys want to have DSPs that run an OS, and indeed, programming them may be a real bitch, it looks like the phone guys are solving the problem very simply: two cores with a shared memory interface.

Here's a really easy-to-understand article on what I assume is a similar chip.

This doesn't appear to be rocket science. The engineers in India have likely just combined the two cores with some shared-memory logic, and then done all the testing and sw development to get it up and running.

It looks to me that the real genius is: getting the manufacturing process so that you can do this level of integration and choosing the right set of features to put into the silicon, so that you get a popular chip.

I take it back: although set-top guys want to have DSPs that run an OS, and indeed, programming them may be a real bitch, it looks like the phone guys are solving the problem very simply: two cores with a shared memory interface.

Here's a really easy-to-understand article on what I assume is a similar chip.

This doesn't appear to be rocket science. The engineers in India have likely just combined the two cores with some shared-memory logic, and then done all the testing and sw development to get it up and running.

It looks to me that the real genius is: getting the manufacturing process so that you can do this level of integration and choosing the right set of features to put into the silicon, so that you get a popular chip.

As an independent filmmaker and videographer, and as a Mac AND Linux user, I'm curious to see if they use Linux for rendering or editing? There's a huge difference.

I know what you mean. Rendering on Linux is kind of standard, but editing is a totally differend story? Just look at this. So if you wanna do hardcore editing on Linux, there is something out there.

the phillips-sony-etc conglomerate that created the dvd standard refused to license the decoder to any OS besides Windoze and MacOS

People can watch DVDs on linux only by using (illegally) reverse engineered software

Next time try Google or Wikipedia to get your facts correct.

Apparently Linux has stealthily pulled ahead of Windows Mobile in the mobile phone space. Quoting from a recent article: 'Embedded Linux powered 14 percent of smartphones shipped worldwide in Q1 of 2005, up 412 percent from 3.4 percent in Q1-04, according to Gartner. Windows Mobile Smartphone shipments also grew, rising 50 percent from a 2.9 share in 1Q-04 to 4.5 percent in 1Q-05.'

very good read , on linuxdevices they add to that article

"although AMD has reportedly encouraged BLX and MIPS to "settle their differences," the article suggests."

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9828238951.html

Nowadays the question is one of appropriate hardware choices for specific tasks...

The power supply is just a first step. A silent system is more like a long compromise on many fronts.

For instance I run a web/mail server using an old P2-400 and a maxtor 20gig from the scrap closet. I'm serving 150K pages a month and getting like 5000 mails/month.

True, a silent power supply would reduce the noise of this single machine, but buying a modern crusoe system with totally passive cooling with a "lowest" cpu would still give me more power than the P2-400 (890 Bogomips) and scratch a large enclosure beige box from my field of view...
it's just a question of cost, I don't really need a low power machine, but I need the money it would cost me.

Another problem I have is the file server next to this machine:
3 fans, 5 hdd and a 450W power supply.

I need enough power to start and run 5 disks, and enough cooling to keep them disks "cold" (lukewarm, to tell the true).

So I can choose between water cooling the disks, and the CPU/GPU as long as I am at it, or find cooler and silenter disks (lol - seagate 5400r/s if they still make them) and/or put a controller to regulate the venting...plus a silent power supply... and a regulator for the cpu...everything comes quite expensive.

I can also get the long cable(s) and a KVM, ethernet KVM if there is such a thing...

Or better, a silent desktop machine and all the servers in a closet somewhere... and a solution to reboot the machines remotely...and a basic knowledge of remote desktops and ssh. altogether quite cheaper than the other solutions.

If I had the vented closet, I would get a crusoe something "dumb" terminal and a citrix-like Linux solution (forgot the name). Your puny computer is just accessing a much more powerfull one, and running everything on it.

You have a silent environment with high cpu power access, you can add unexpensive desktops wherever you want, wifi possible as you use a real computer as a terminal...
Your server(s) has a nice, cool closet all to itself and can be happy churning watts without disturbing you. Cluster for redundancy, dual raid 10 array, or JBOD and a backup disk somewhere else and you have a corporate-like environment.

Still the problem of rebooting the remote server without moving, but a solution can be found in many flavors even from an X10 controlable power outlet and a mobo supporting wake-on-lan.

See how-much a silent power supply costs, see how much a low power "semi-dumb" would cost, and start emptying that closet.

(see here for some example of Linux thin clients : http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT4923746399. html - I'm sure there is something comparable for Windows (citrix) but it sure will be expensive...)

By your reasoning, the AMD geode LX800 takes the crown:

481 pins = 13*37

OMG, 1t are t3h l33t CPU!!1!!11one11

http://www.linuxdevices.com/files/misc/amd-lx800.j pg

This is utter bullshit.

Really, you should have a clue before posting. According to this press release, the ARM processor consumes around 8mW, though I can't dig out any real-life figures atm. It really is an order of magnitude more power-efficient than anything x86. If you do some basic micro-processor studies you will find that most of the Intel chips are taken up with trying to translate the cludgy CISC x86 instruction set into the 'RISC-like' opcodes Intel uses internally. There is no avoiding the fact this wastes power. Here is an ARM device at random that consumes
less less than 450mW.

Phillip.

I probably would'nt use this product but I enjoy the fact that Linux is enjoying much success in the embedded market. Linuxdevices.com has a recent article http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5884511893.html / about another GPS enabled device. This also brings a question to mind: With the recent buzz about the video iPod, should Apple develop a small footprint of OS X and Aqua for inclusion into some smaller gadgets and devices?

Not sure, perhaps you should direct your question to Linksys. They more than likely know the answer to that question.

Click here for more info

or does this screen look a little too much like a happy face that apprears when a certain other OS boots.

Read this story ages ago on linuxdevices.com.

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4557745057.html

What's next? Will /. tell me WiMAX is a "disruptive technology"?

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3095094669.html

Read this story ages ago on linuxdevices.com.

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4557745057.html

What's next? Will /. tell me WiMAX is a "disruptive technology"?

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3095094669.html

Probably a Cisco box rather

• The profile is CDC/PBP, so desktop applications need some tweaks to run on top of it. AWT is available.
• Most of the APIs are borrowed from MHP, there is JMF, JavaTV and other APIs available for the Java app. MHP has been used in Europe's satellite receivers for a few years now, and it seems that US's cable operators are going to use similar APIs also (OCAP). Details of MHP at
  • http://www.interactivetvweb.org/ ,
  • http://linuxdevices.com/links/LK8509269876.html ,
  • http://www.mhp.org/
• The Java application can use HTTP/HTTPS to download new Java apps, movies, etc. Have a look at http://www.bluraydisc.com/assets/downloadablefile/ 2b_bdrom_audiovisualapplication_0305-12955.pdf chapter 5.2 for examples.

It does....See this from TFA.

If true, these figures suggest Linux has made great progress in consumer electronics power management, possibly through the efforts of MontaVista, which has supplied the Linux used in all of Motorola's previous Linux phones.

Read this too.

"We experimented with hot-swap, but found it caused as many problems as it solved. It actually induced failures, so we backed away."
(we) "tried then backed away from RAID, instead opting to recommend JBOD"
"We had a painful experience with RAID 5, which does not scale well to petabyte-level storage."

hehe, i got a giggle out of this. linuxdevices.com has a list of pda's that support linux natively. However, I must admit that after actually looking for half of these, I had a hard time actually finding anyplace to purchase most of them. The others were just crappy and I ended up with a zaurus. At any rate, here is the list: http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8728350077. html