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I don't see too many windows machines on netcraft's top 50 uptimes list... The closest (and the only) open-source operating system listed there is FreeBSD. The rest is an endless list of BSD/OS... But windows? Windows is nowhere to be seen.

March 23, 2004: In this month's Web Server Survey the number of IP addresses with sites using ASP.NET has overtaken those using JSP and Java Servlets. The number of IP addresses found with ASP.NET has shown very strong growth in the past year with a 224% increase from 17.2K to 55.8K.

March 23, 2004: In this month's Web Server Survey the number of IP addresses with sites using ASP.NET has overtaken those using JSP and Java Servlets. The number of IP addresses found with ASP.NET has shown very strong growth in the past year with a 224% increase from 17.2K to 55.8K.

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Hmmm, it seems that another approach might also provide these desirable side benefits but also work to secure the Internet as a whole, and not have to use "Trusted" architectures. Although, there are new controversies from the following approach, in short, from my journal: "an emerging Internet security company, Symbiot is taking an entirely new, albeit controversial approach to Internet defense and cyberwarfare that should appeal to cyberpunks everywhere. Rather than the traditional passive response that has been used by sysadmins and CTO's worldwide, Symbiot is taking a more "active" defense approach by implementing a common subscription based access to a "threat database" that will allow participating networks to determine the degree of threat and respond democratically (by using the shared resources of other participating networks) and proportionally to the attack by allowing for a graduated response to cyber attacks. The potential of an asymmetrical response to a threat is also not out of the question.... Links for additional information are here and here."

hehe, before that someone mods you +1 Informative, gnome.org runs Linux/Apache.

Nice one though :)

Some fun stuff to be had over at netcraft.
The ACCC runs linux
Also funny is that SCO lists McDonalds as a SCO licensee in their 5 reasons to use unix instead of linux ad, yet McDonalds.com.au chooses to use windows for its public site.

I'm sure there's tons of other funny things to find, but its bedtime for this linux criminal. Thankfully being a criminal is something Australia considers a proud heritage, so I'm OK! ;)

Some fun stuff to be had over at netcraft.
The ACCC runs linux
Also funny is that SCO lists McDonalds as a SCO licensee in their 5 reasons to use unix instead of linux ad, yet McDonalds.com.au chooses to use windows for its public site.

I'm sure there's tons of other funny things to find, but its bedtime for this linux criminal. Thankfully being a criminal is something Australia considers a proud heritage, so I'm OK! ;)

From Netcraft:

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.gnome .org

Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) (Red-Hat/Linux) PHP/4.1.2 mod_perl/1.26 on Linux

Also the net block is not owned by Red Hat. Unlike redhat.com which sits on a difference cluster owned by Red Hat itself.

Netcraft sez that it runs/ran Redhat Linux, so it must be Redhat's fault!

What? Me? Of course, I looovve Redhat!

Ohh, and I can prove it, thanks to the magic of netcraft! See http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=gnu.org Gnu.org hasn't been on an MIT-owned IP address since Nov. 1 2000, at the latest.

I should be lest hasty in my posts so I don't have to keep replying to myself...

noah

A little interesting... What does SETI.org run?

To be exact, it is an Akamai site. Which provides caching and other measures that prevent sites from suffering /. attacks.

It is also the reason why Microsoft.com appeared to run Linux.

God uses apache.

www.nsa.gov :)

Idiot.

For all we know linux could be very secure, we really have no way of finding out because scriptkiddies don't seem to be very interested in exploiting the publically available knowledge on identified (and of course patched) security problems.

You can actually get away with running an improperly secured&patched linux box for a very long time. Try that with a windows 2k server and you are asking for trouble. Yet both configurations are flawed and offer plenty of opportunities for a disastrous attack.

The security comes from the policy to patch and update not from any technological choices. I don't see any significant differences between the linux and windows communities here. So linux is not inherently more secure just less likely to be a target. Any good sysadmin knows this.

According to netcraft, doi.gov was running NT4 or Windows 98 when it was last updated 3-ish years ago. Does that mean that they still haven't upgraded from NT4?? If their web server is any indication of other servers at the DOI, it is no wonder they were pulled down...

Well their webservers at least are running Lotus-Domino/5.0.8 on NT4/Windows 98.

The site www.jessesword.com is running Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.8.14 OpenSSL/0.9.7b mod_perl/1.27 on FreeBSD.

Further, it has been running FreeBSD since 19 February 2003, and prior to that ran Open/NetBSD from October 2002.

God bless Netcraft.

eat shit and die pussy.
FreeBSD & MySQL
In your face!

If my post was "Flamebait" then answer my question: Who actually uses GNU/HURD? The GNU guys don't even use it! That's a statement of fact, not a flame. I certainly don't expect them to use anything that's not released under the GPL, so their use of Linux is no real surprise, but given Stallman's history with the whole "Linux" vs "GNU/Linux" thing I'm assuming he'd use GNU/HURD if it was any good.

GNU/HURD is begging, alright. Begging for developers, begging for users, begging to be noticed. Does anyone actually use it? Even these guys don't.

If Linux were as popular as Windows is today, it would be just as plagued by security holes.

First, wrong. Apache runs 60%-70% of the world's web servers, yet MS II has far more security holes (at least judging by # of exploits). Following your logic, this would not be the case.

Second, what that generates spam zombies is not really "security holes" in general, but more than anything, a particular type of exploit, namely viruses (virii?). These are nearly exclusive to Windows. (Indeed, by some accounts, Linux installations on the internet are more exploited than Windows installations -- discounting viruses. Take it with a grain of salt, but you get the idea - we are not talking about "security" in general).

Third, even though Windows may be more widely used by home users than Linux, most crackers ("evil hackers") are more familiar with the world of UNIX and Linux -- typically these OSes are their own tools of choice. Moreover, the source code for Linux (and *BSD) is widely available, and so any holes are much easier to find. (You saw that based only a tiny fraction of the Windows source code, leaked to only a tiny fraction of the worlds cracker population, several new "critical" exploits surfaced within days, if not hours).

-tor

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=army.com is what to do to learn the answer to that question, and

Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) Debian/GNU PHP/3.0.18 on Linux is the answer.

So someone was probably in the distortion field you mentioned -- though the Army could have switched between then and now, and if it was switching from OS X, going to Linux wouldn't have been hard.

Ever notice that www.sco.com is running linux (Netcraft.com)? I guess Unixware is not up to the task....

Agreed. Today at school I had to look at a teacher's computer that had over 5 different {spy,ad}ware apps installed. I gave up trying to identify and remove them after struggling through 2 or 3 and instead took off the shortcuts to IE and downloaded Firefox.

I renamed the desktop shortcut "Internet (Firefox)" so it looks like "Internet Explorer", and put it in the spot where IE was. I would've felt guilty if I'd changed the icon to the blue e.

Now if only I can convince the school board to standardize on Mozilla...well, after I convince them to switch from Borland C++ 4.5 to the latest GCC (MinGW) that actually complies with the C++ standard, and tell them to stop using IIS 4.0. Ah, seems like they just upgraded to IIS 5.0, what an improvement.

Can someone help out here? The following stats are provided in the article:

Market share*, 2002 23.1% 55.1%
Market share, 2001 22.4% 50.5%

indicating that MS has approximately twice the market share as Unix/Linux.

Netcraft's site says something different, however:

Apache 67.20
Microsoft 20.88

Here, Apache over has three times as many deployments as MS. Anyone aware of why there are differences between the two sources?

i think netcrafts stats shows that you doesn't need a fancy gui interface to have a succesfull product, once again apache as an example.

webserver survey and longest uptime

it also been a trend that the new servers that "have been added to net" often uses apache rather than IIS

i think netcrafts stats shows that you doesn't need a fancy gui interface to have a succesfull product, once again apache as an example.

webserver survey and longest uptime

it also been a trend that the new servers that "have been added to net" often uses apache rather than IIS

According to netcraft

The site www.doctorsknow.us is running Apache/1.3.29 (Debian GNU/Linux) PHP/4.3.3 on Linux.

For some reason thought these guys were sure to be running Microsoft products. Guess I have too much of the slashdot bias.

Netcraft confirms, www.macombsheriff.com is dying.

No. 1 is EV1Servers.net who announced SCO lied about how much they were paid (Microsoft is a fan of EV1)
(little did the CEO know when he made the deal that SCO planned to 'worth' him out of seven figures)

No. 2 is CompterAssociates who announced SCO lied about "linux licenses" which are really from an unrelated settlement

No. 3 is Leggett and Platt say SCO lies and they don't have a license and "would not have an interest in doing so"

No. 4 is Questar Gas said they just wanted to get things over with and also runs Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) on Windows 2000


Make sure *you* are Legally Unencumbered(tm) by getting a SCOsores license
and don't forget to head over and sign your Clean Slate contract with the RIAA

No. 1 is EV1Servers.net who announced SCO lied about how much they were paid (Microsoft is a fan of EV1)
(little did the CEO know when he made the deal that SCO planned to 'worth' him out of seven figures)

No. 2 is CompterAssociates who announced SCO lied about "linux licenses" which are really from an unrelated settlement

No. 3 is Leggett and Platt who shockingly is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000

No. 4 is Questar Gas who just wanted to get things over with and also runs Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) on Windows 2000


Make sure *you* are Legally Unencumbered(tm) by getting a SCOsores license
and don't forget to head over and sign your Clean Slate contract with the RIAA

No. 1 is EV1Servers.net who announced SCO lied about how much they were paid (Microsoft is a fan of EV1)
(little did the CEO know when he made the deal that SCO planned to 'worth' him out of seven figures)

No. 2 is CompterAssociates who announced SCO lied about "linux licenses" which are really from an unrelated settlement

No. 3 is Leggett and Platt who shockingly is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000

No. 4 is Questar Gas who just wanted to get things over with and also runs Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) on Windows 2000


Make sure *you* are Legally Unencumbered(tm) by getting a SCOsores license
and don't forget to head over and sign your Clean Slate contract with the RIAA

The EV1 deal is interesting.

SCO is claiming the deal with EV1 was worth more than a million dollars. EV1 is disputing the 7 figures and the confusion seems to be the weasel word "worth".

In other words, SCO is claiming that $1million+ "worth" of licenses were sold. So that's $1mill/$699 = 1400+ licenses, or $1mill/$1399 = 700+ licenses. SCO's own quarterly says only $20k income from licensing this quarter. It's possible the EV1 payments are in stages, or won't appear on SCO's financials until next quarter, but it's also possible that EV1 only paid $20k for their licenses.

But SCO is spinning this to sound much more impressive. EV1 was the patsy here; they thought they were getting a great deal, but they were just another pawn in SCO's (Microsoft's?) smear campaign against Linux.

> They are not some litte ISP.

You almost had me agreeing with you until this line. They are one of the biggest providers of discounted rack servers on the planet. NetCraft apparently knows about them too, and had an interview with Marsh before this whole thing happened. They host a lot of boxes and just got done building a second data center.

> They are not some litte ISP.

You almost had me agreeing with you until this line. They are one of the biggest providers of discounted rack servers on the planet. NetCraft apparently knows about them too, and had an interview with Marsh before this whole thing happened. They host a lot of boxes and just got done building a second data center.

> They are not some litte ISP.

You almost had me agreeing with you until this line. They are one of the biggest providers of discounted rack servers on the planet. NetCraft apparently knows about them too, and had an interview with Marsh before this whole thing happened. They host a lot of boxes and just got done building a second data center.

Definately not. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=kkk.com

Almost all of their machines are *nix, and in violation of SCOs 'intellectual property'.

According to Netcraft, they run Solaris, and have been for a long time...

Netcraft reports that the Nevada Circuit Court uses Linux on their Case Management/Electronic Case Filing systems. The question is now, wether SCO will file a suit against that very same court. Perhaps a SCO vs. Ashcroft case?

Linux?

The Server that they have to post their PDF filings to runs Linux! (The webserver for the court.)

He could have run it on his web server (Netcraft link), which is running Apache 1.3.27 on RedHat.

According to Netcraft, The Vatican runs Tru64 Unix.

According to Netcraft, The Vatican runs Tru64 Unix.

go check Netcraft....they have actually dabbled in BSD for a bit on www.sco.com

www.sco.com doesn't exist anymore. However sco.com does still use Linux.