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what Google knew and what Google actually did
"The emails and IMs also seem to show that Google knew about this plan when it bought YouTube for $1.65 billion in 2006"
Everyone and his dog 'knew' there was copyrighted material on Youtube. What Google 'knew' is moot. Googles actions and policies at the time are most relevent. According to the actual text of the emails, Google strongly opposed profiting from 'pirated material'. And elsewhere it shows that content owners were actively uploading content. "we've uploaded boatloads of clips onto YouTube for distribution", Viacom. If this is The Most Damning Information Viacom Dug Up On Google And YouTube, then not much is all I can say.
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162. In a June 28, 2006 email to numerous other Google executives, Google vice president of content partnerships David Eun stated: "as Sergey pointed out at our last GPS, is changing policy [t]o increase traffic knowing beforehand that we'll profit from illegal [d]ownloads how we want to conduct business? Is this Googley?
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Google executive Partic Walker and email listing the "Top 10 reasons why we shouldn't stop screening for copyright violations," including: "1. It crosses the threshold of Don't be Evil to facilitate distribution of other people's intellectual property, and possible even allowing monetization of it by somebody who doesn't own the copyright";
"2. Just growing any traffic is a bad idea. This policy will drive us to build a giant index of pseudo porn, lady punches, and copyrighted material ..."'
"3. We should be able to win on features, a better [user interface] technology, advertising relationships - not just policy, It's a cop out to resort to dis-rob-ution";
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Sony close to breaking even...
Sony's even close to breaking even on the PS3...
http://m.news.com/2166-12_3-10414022-52.html
A new iSuppli report issued Friday suggests that Sony may finally be nearing the break-even point with the PS3. It said that its teardown analysis service estimated that the design cost of the new 120-gigabyte PS3 Slim comes in around $336, while it sells for $299 in the U.S.
That means that while Sony is still losing about $37 per unit--plus somewhat more for marketing, royalties, box contents, and other expenses--it is for the first time closing in on breaking even with the console itself.
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Re:Theres one technical point
yeah, http://www.news.news.com/
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Re:Obsolete
Not only that but they can make web tools Live/Bing/Hotmail work best with their browser - influencing users of those tools to almost be forced to to use IE.
They've already been bitten by that one. They blocked all browsers except IE from accessing MSN.com. After two days of people making noise about it they let everyone view MSN again.
Did they learn? No. Less than two years later they served a stylesheet to Opera (and only to Opera, other browsers received a working stylesheet and IE had its own) that deliberately broke the display of the page. They served Opera the IE stylesheet, which displayed fine, after some more complaints.
Was that enough for them? No, they tried again with hotmail. They sent Opera an incomplete javascript file that was missing a required function to empty the junk e-mail. Other browsers were sent a different javascript file.
I don't think they'd dare try again with how closely the EU is monitoring them now.
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Replying to own post with link
The current atoms run about 2 watts, way too much for a smartphone even if they are able to cut that in half, and that's not even counting the power hog chipsets needed for the atom that require 5-12+ watts. By comparison the current cortex A8 packages with video etc that are able to do 1080p are able to make it under the 300 milliwatt line smartphone manufacturers are looking for.
And even better, if you're talking about Intel's chips two generations out, then consider the Cortex A9 quad core chips that are claiming to be ready to go and at reasonable power consumption in the same time frame if not sooner than Intel's offering. That article is actually claiming dual core Cortex A9 phones within a year that use about the same power as current chips with much better performance.
So as noted it looks like ARM is going to have a much easier time scaling up performance at the smartphone power draw level than Intel is going to have getting anywhere near it. And the Cortex A9 will probably spank the Atom. The race should benefit everyone though. Maybe we'll actually get some decent performing netbook, laptop, and desktop chips out of it that run on extremely low power.http://m.news.com/2166-12_3-10263278-64.html
http://www.liliputing.com/tag/arm-cortex-a9
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2341032,00.asp
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How Microsoft Googled YahooThere's been a lot of talk about how Google manipulated the FCC auction for the 700 Mhz spectrum. For a newcomer, they certainly did consumers a favor in forcing the open access provision that Verizon must now spend years trying to avoid. However, with Microsoft's withdrawal from their Yahoo bid, and the recent turn of events there should be NO misconceptions about who is the daddy of IT business manipulation.
Let's take a look at the whole MicroHoo saga from the start...
- On February 1st, 2008, Microsoft made an unsolicited bid for Yahoo. They offered $44.6 Billion which was a 62% premium above Yahoo's price of $22.97 a share.
- Yahoo goes to Time Warner, and ask them to fold AOL into Yahoo, but TW drops out of negotiations on March 5th.
- Rejected by TW, Yahoo goes to Rupert Murdoch and Newscorp, but on March 10th Yahoo is again left playing alone.
- On February 11th, after being rejected by their other potential suitors, Yahoo rejects Microsoft's bid claiming that it undervalues the company.
- After being rejected by both TW and Newscorp and turning down a Microsoft offer that is still 40% more than the total value of the company, Yahoo execs decided to http://thetechstop.net/?p=1024">reward themselves with record bonuses, giving their president, Susan Decker, a $1.1 million bonus for a job well done.
- Towards the end of March, Yahoo shocks everybody by claiming that they could http://thetechstop.net/?p=1046">double their revenue within three years.
- On April 9th, Yahoo announces that they are http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080409/20080409006247.html?.v=1">partnering with Google to place AdSense ads within Yahoo searches. This is designed to be a limited, 2-week trial.
- All the while, Yahoo continues to claim that the Microsoft bid http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1011006/000095013408002135/f37927exv99w1.htm">dramatically undervalues their worth.
- Microsoft raises their bid to $37-a-share, or http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080505/yahoo_fallout.html?.v=9">$47.5 Billion). They are ignored by Jerry Yang and company, so they walk away from the table.
- Fast-forward to today... Google has walked out, Yahoo stock is in the crapper, MS won't even entertain a low bid for the whole company. Jerry Wang is offering the wall-street equivalent of a BJ but the only people listening are the share holders who feel as if THEY'VE been screwed.
I wrote about this on TheTechStop.net back in May...
Let's for a moment forget that Jerry Yang is now http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120999265277067343.html?mod=yahoo_hs&ru=yahoo">getting grilled by Yahoo shareholders who think that he just lost them billions of dollars. Let's forget that they overplayed their "Poison Pill" position. The consequences of this bid battle will last for many years, assuming that Yahoo doesn't eventually fall to Microsoft for a much lower price or suffers the slow death of spinoffs and layoffs.
They will now have to make good on their 100% growth prediction. They will have to appease stock-holders who could almost taste a huge payday before it was seemingly taken away by Jerry Yang's stubbornness. They will have to shore up their battle-lines with Google even after they allowed Google into the Yahoo camp. They will be second-guessed, over-analyzed and criticized into the grave --- and Microsoft doesn't even have to lift a finger to make it all happen.
Say what you want about MS as an evil empire. Yahoo got Googled
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They walk on ice.
This is happening because the negative attention they've gotten recently. Office 2007 has gotten a bad review thanks to a over-thought user interface, so they hired an Adobe UI guru to correct that. OOXML hasn't gotten any acceptance from the community so introducing it now will just further the negativity. I'm sure this move toward ODF is to bring more approval as they scrap Office 2007 and bring something better in version 14. By then they'll try to put some positive spin on OOXML as they release a better interface and incorporate OOXML.
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Re:Slow News Day?
http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9922664-37.html?tag=newsmap
I read it and I found this. -
Re:Correction
Correction, Leopard is UNIX. The previous versions of OSX are not, because Apple v. Open Group had not yet been settled by the time any of them had been released.
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Re:Sloppy Definition? maybe...
Replace "countries" and "markets" with "rules of law" or "cultures" and you'll get closer to the truth of the matter. In the United States, we hate child porn. Just today, the Supreme Court upheld that it can be a crime to offer to post or ask for the posting of child porn even if there was no such porn ever posted. Last year, Florida prosecuted and convicted two teenagers for disseminating child porn after they took racy photos of themselves and sent it only to each other. If Google supplied IP addresses to allow these convictions, would we be chatting about how evil Google is? Pretend that Indians thought these convictions were stupid. Should Indian Google refuse to supply IP addresses to allow these convictions? What would we be saying if they did?
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Re:Do they?
The networks probably offered Tivo some money to honor the flag
"Offering money", copyright industry style:
If you do what we tell you to do, we'll let you keep your earnings. Consider it a gift from us to you.
If you don't do what we tell you to do, we will drag you through through endless litigation costing you a million dollars a month(*). If doesn't matter if our cases are bogus or not, we'll run you into bankruptcy. Period. "Hardware maker Sonicblue has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection... The company has been fighting a lawsuit by the entertainment industry over technology in its ReplayTV device that lets people skip commercials.
(*) $1 million per month = $3 million per three months = "Litigation costs, for one, have had a crippling effect on companies like Sonicblue, which spends $3 million a quarter fighting lawsuits, according to Greg Ballard, CEO of Sonicblue, which manufactures ReplayTV. Twenty-eight media companies are suing Ballard's company."
I hope the media industry never "offers me money". I don't think I could afford it.
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Re:Turn off the phone?
Fool! Your cellphone is listening to your every word, even when you think it's off!
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Virtual Lawyers?Examples would include training in emergency services within medical institutions and fire and police departments. I'll be a good exercise to try involving some "lawyery" in there. Infact that'd raise some new issues on who sues who, and where. Lets say the virtual fireman drove his truck into a virtual policeman. What will the virtual lawyer do? Might save us troubles such as these": http://www.news.com/Virtual-world-litigation-for-real/2010-1047_3-6190583.html
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Re:Umm... is this going to be like the war on drugCan you CURE sexual attraction to children? The very first step in this debate is to eliminate the mud that is obscuring the real issues. Based on your earlier comment, you seem to believe that sexual attraction to 17 year olds (minors in your state) is perverse. I'm talking about attraction to them, not acting on that attraction.
If you are asking me if we can CURE sexual attraction to 17 year olds, then I would say that the answer is most certainly no. You'd be waging a war on natural impulses, and you would lose.
What do YOU suggest we do with these people? I would suggest we begin to discuss these topics rationally, without immediately resorting to kneejerk comments about "castrating the sick fucks who look at this kind of crap." This isn't a one size fits all kind of debate, especially considering the way the laws are written now. Putting the people who are attracted to post-pubescent minors in the same category as those attracted to pre-pubescent minors confuses the issue tremendously.
I would also suggest that law enforcement authorities start truly concentrating on the people who are actually sexually abusing children, rather than spending so much time and money to arrest people that are looking at pictures and videos, including minors who take pictures of themselves:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/webguide/internetlife/2004-03-29-child-self-porn_x.htm
http://www.news.com/Police-blotter-Teens-prosecuted-for-racy-photos/2100-1030_3-6157857.html
This "fight" against child pornography has long lost sight of it's intended target (protecting minors from being sexually abused), and is now used as a means to score political votes, funding increases, and surveillance/control of the internet. -
Re:You mean Cruise munition isnt the Gay Bomb?
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Re:US catches up with the rest of the World.
First off this isn't really new - T-Mobile is GSM and allows any GSM phone to run. I think AT&T (also GSM) might also but I haven't checked. People routinely transfer SIM cards in the US. Just not on Verizon, Alltel, or Sprint - those use CDMA.
Out of the five telecoms I've mentioned above, guess which one actually will allow Android phones on their network? (Yes, ONE.) I'll give you a hint: it's not using CDMA.
That's right, T-Mobile. So T-Mobile, who already is fairly open with the phones they support, is willing to support Android.
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Obvious Foreshadowing
I think this is evidence of a trend towards international organizations to create divisions or authorities responsible for cyber governance/monitoring/standardization/accountability.
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Re:Excite.com? I remember them!
I thought excite.com (the story link) was long dead.
That's OK. We all thought Sanford "Spamford" Wallace and Walt "Picklejar" Rines were out of business as of ten years ago. Those two motherfuckers (and I already have lawyers from the Oedipus Complex Anti-Defamation Leage calling on line one for my slur against people who fuck their mothers) have been spamming in one form or another since before excite.com even started. Here's a snapshot of the spam wars, circa 2001. Look
Walt Rines' nickname of Pickle Jar comes from news.admin.net-abuse.email, and he was dubbed thusly by one of the Elder Gods of Spamfighting, the immortal Bill Mattocks. The USENET thread to which I just linked was the one in which what had been widely known for some time was finally proven -- that every time a spammer says he's going to "remove you from his list", he's lying. (Following the FTC hearings, most of the major spammers of the day, including Spamford and Pickle Jar, were touting a "universal remove list" as the solution -- unbeknownst to the spammers, the list was seeded with never-used email addresses, and unsurprisingly, those never-used email addresses immediately started receiving spam.)
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Re:Considering? Sure. Gonna happen? NOPE.
I don't think the blank cd tariff is such a bad thing. It basically legalized file sharing. It has made it possible for us to avoid such draconian laws like the DCMA. Besides, without us canadians, you americans wouldn't get any of your pirated movies (according to the MPAA).
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Re:New sympathetic venue for RIAA cases
and what happens when it DOES become a STATE issue?
http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9940361-7.html
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/RIAA-Pursues-StateLevel-AntiPiracy-Bills-94284 -
Re:So...
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Re:TorrentSpyBut what they really did was destroy users access records to protect their visitors. http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9835333-7.html TorrentSpy operators intentionally modified or deleted directory headings naming copyrighted titles and forum posts that explained how to find specific copyrighted works; concealed IP addresses of users; and withheld the names and addresses of forum moderators, the court found. They had earlier been fined $30,000 for violations of discovery orders and were warned of severe sanctions if they continued to ignore the orders. Yes, they were trying to protect their visitors.
But they were also sanitizing the forum and then they lied about various things under oath.
Heck, read the /. comments about it when it happened
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/19/1444229
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Re:Hmm...I would say that iPod/iTunes actually saved Apple
No, Apple was already back on its feet financially by the time the iPod shipped.
But Apple got "back on its feet financially" largely because of cost cuts and downsizing (started by Amelio), not from increased revenues. If I remember correctly, the revenues didn't really start "rolling in" until the iPod became a cultural phenomenom.I remember Steve Jobs's first use (I'm pretty sure) of his "One Last Thing" catchphrase at Macworld 1998 to announce Apple's first quartly profit in ages. However, revenues were down half a billion dollars from the same quarter the previous year ($1.6 billion down from $2.1 billion).
Three years later, quarterly revenues would be down to about $1 billion and Apple would be losing money again. Apple had a net loss for the year 2001 and a net operating loss in 2003. Revenues/profits bounced back, then took off in 2004 and 2005. Note that iTunes Music Store and iTunes for Windows were launched/released during 2003. In January 2007, even with increased Mac sales, 48% of revenues were from iPod sales.
A nice page with Apple's income data over the last ten years: AAPL - Apple, Inc. Stock Report | Financial Statements
I'm not sure if the iPod "saved" Apple, but I don't for sure if Apple could have continued with Mac sales being their primary revenue source (without the iPod halo effect and a smaller share of the market).
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Re:Hmm...I would say that iPod/iTunes actually saved Apple
No, Apple was already back on its feet financially by the time the iPod shipped.
But Apple got "back on its feet financially" largely because of cost cuts and downsizing (started by Amelio), not from increased revenues. If I remember correctly, the revenues didn't really start "rolling in" until the iPod became a cultural phenomenom.I remember Steve Jobs's first use (I'm pretty sure) of his "One Last Thing" catchphrase at Macworld 1998 to announce Apple's first quartly profit in ages. However, revenues were down half a billion dollars from the same quarter the previous year ($1.6 billion down from $2.1 billion).
Three years later, quarterly revenues would be down to about $1 billion and Apple would be losing money again. Apple had a net loss for the year 2001 and a net operating loss in 2003. Revenues/profits bounced back, then took off in 2004 and 2005. Note that iTunes Music Store and iTunes for Windows were launched/released during 2003. In January 2007, even with increased Mac sales, 48% of revenues were from iPod sales.
A nice page with Apple's income data over the last ten years: AAPL - Apple, Inc. Stock Report | Financial Statements
I'm not sure if the iPod "saved" Apple, but I don't for sure if Apple could have continued with Mac sales being their primary revenue source (without the iPod halo effect and a smaller share of the market).
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the GPL violates anti-trust regulations .. ?
Is Skype trying to pull an SCO, in other words trying to commit economic suicide. Assuming their argument is upheld (which is very unlikly) what would be the effects on the rest of the Open Source universe. Someone already tried to play the anti-trust card and failed, way back in Nov 2006.
Pulling an SCO: proverb
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Re:Maybe
I did a long time ago, after some reading, when Skype wasn't eBay yet and this was just in.
Qutecom just about does the job for me - and it's Free as in Speech. -
Re:Anti-trust theory already tried, and failed
GPL vs Skype is being held in Munich, not in the US. And the GPL has been successfully tested at least once in Germany.
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Bogus story
This story came and went yesterday.
http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9938650-56.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5 -
Re:*shrug*
Please note that parent is not legal analysis and does not at all represent how federal courts in the United States work. See my post on precedent for an explanation. For the most part, it doesn't seem that the issues in this case are even related to the interpretation of "making available." According to News.com, "The studios originally sued TorrentSpy in February 2006, alleging that the site promoted and contributed to online copyright infringement by helping people locate illegally copied films and television shows on the Internet." Contributory infringement != making available. Thanks for playing.
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Re:Why should we believe him over the article?
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Re:WTHAn invite-only confrence where they test how well their product does? No testing happens at Blue Hat. The idea is from MS to have the best from Black Hat speak to it's own people - an idea interchange. It's MS-internal because MS wants its employees to get exposure to this information, and so that MS employees can discuss specifics (with the invitees) that are relevant to them.
You'll get skewered data that we all know their going to use to bash Linux and support Windows This site does not rely on data (skewed or otherwise) to put MS on the proverbial skewer. For an very recent example, look at the thread earlier today (where one journalist theorizes that MS may at some future date put some 'copyright cop' on Zunes, and
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Re:The 'Uncool' of Microsoft
Fortunately Microsoft denies 'Copyright Cop' speculation. Of course,
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Re:Nothing new there
Microsoft has already denied this: http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9938650-56.html?tag=nefd.top But since this is slashdot, let's just ignore it while there is an opportunity for MS bashing.
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Re:Great to see? Want to make a bet?How much do you want to bet that when they say: "No portion of the server will be closed source," what they actually mean is: "We will be developing separate closed source backup tools rather than incorporating that functionality into the server, to keep you bitches from whining." Sun's CEO has been saying stuff like, [Open Source is] not a cheap complement to throw to the community in order to drive sales of "the real value" for quite a while now.
Which is why:
a) It was a shocker that the MySQL division of Sun was going to keep parts of the code closed in the first place.
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Re:I don't see any problem with close sourcingJust because you release one product as open source doesn't mean that you have to release all you works or future versions under the same license. However, when your CEO says that [Open Source is] not a cheap complement to throw to the community in order to drive sales of "the real value" you will be expected to release all your works as open source.
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Re:In other words...
Last I checked we (I'm Canadian as well) are allowed to download legally as long as we don't upload: http://www.news.com/2100-1025_3-5121479.html. The wikipedia article on Candian copyright law explains it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_copyright_law#Music_Recordings. We have a levy on blank media that gives us carte blanche to copy music. Basically as far as the law is concerned, we've already paid for it.
Also, newer /. article related to p2p in Canada: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/15/066200&from=rss -
A well-publicized rescue based on cell signals
For those of you who remember this incident a couple of years ago:
http://www.news.com/2100-1028_3-6140118.html
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Yes and noTrademark infringement? Sure; same field, similar names, could be confusing. They should be required to change their name, or something.
But why should they be barred from using a competitor's name in their advertising? A federal court has found that to be perfectly legal, so this is an unusal punishment.
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Whats the point of the Olympics anyways?
Since the issue of net filtering and censorship in China is largely a non-topic, I asked myself why should the Olympics make any difference when discussing individual Countries Law and expecting exceptions to those Laws. In short, what is so great about the present day Olympics?
- Tradition? Seems to me the original spirit of the games has long been lost. It's all about advertising, ratings, and the almighty dollar bill. $10 hot dog, anyone?
- Bragging rights? Aren't there 'World organizations' for this stuff already? Don't the best of the best already compete against each other?
- Excitement? Watching some muscle-head lob a 15 pound aerodynamic (sortof) rock downrange just doesn't have the same pizazz as watching CNN-cam on the front end of a Sat-Killer. Ditto on the ice thing with rocks and brooms (not the vulcanized rock, the other one).
- Nationalism? If they were proud of their country, why do some come to the USA to get professionally paid only to be shipped back home to wear a different uniform for a few weeks? Seems hypocritical.
- Achievement? Oh joy of joys, yet another feel good story about how a gymnast with a hangnail toughed it out. Compare that to the tanks 'guarding' parking lot, I'm uninspired.
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Re:Sun...As far as MySQL. It has always been dual licensed and some things were not always available in the community version. From the reports I've read, the things that are closed were in the works before Sun purchased them. I've heard that response many times and I don't understand why people like you think it means anything. When a company is acquired, there are changes. Often huge changes. Changes to bring the company into line with the goals of the parent company.
Schwartz has been regularly quoted saying things like "open source [is] a fundamental business-model advantage, and not a cheap complement to throw to the community in order to drive sales of 'the real value.'" Yet this "in the works" business decision from the former MySQL flies directly in the face of that statement.
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Re:What is Twitter?
Email is targetted. However if you really need to distribute a high volume of information immediately without dooming your own infrastructure, Twitter is great. It's not targetted because the demand for the informaion comes from the followers to the source, instead of the other way around. See how KPBS.org used this information to spread evacuation and relief updates during the California wildfires:
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Re:Hope it wasn't released under the GPL
A quick giggle for "or the Gnu Protective License" barfed up the following:
http://www.news.com/5208-1030_3-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=2246&messageID=11919&start=-1
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=389856&cid=21705136
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=67877&no_d2=1&cid=6220788
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=159323&cid=13343214
http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2003/2/13/8422/16656/11#11
I think the biggest thing keeping this troll from being truly informative is the lack of understanding of the licence, and the deliberate mis-statement of its effects. Its fictitious and incorrect pronouncements virtually guarentee that nobody with even rudimentary analytical skills will believe it. After my experience with these beliefs, I won't be recommending them any of my associates. I may reconsider if it switches to something a little more believable, like the HIV-protective benefits of nailing your head to the floor. Until then its attempts to deliberately distort the facts about what you can and cannot do with in-house software that's not for external distribution shall continue to attract such a flurry of indignant responses that it's easy to believe that Mother Henrietta Hickey's day job is posting anti-GPL FUD.
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A much better article
Here: CNet Writeup
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Thought crimes are already here in the US
Murder and assault are illegal and should be. However, in the US we've introduced the idea of 'hate' crimes that are crimes above and beyond the actions taken. These crimes are based not on your actions but who the victim is and your possible feelings about the victim.
Worse even though you may be found not guilty of the Murder/assault there have been cases where people are re-tried under the thought-crime.. er. uh. excuse me hate-crime statute even though it seems to violate double jeopardy protection.
Even more on point as far as this article are concerned the FBI ran an sting that resulted in arrests for simply following links they put out there to catch people looking for child porn. Hope they remembered to disallow fasterfox from doing pre-fetch on the sites to avoid people who got a click away and had their browser commit the crime for them.
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Re:Article a bit one-sided?
True, the other developer moved the code and patches to his server months ago when the namesys.com site went down.
Rieser 4 Patches and ProgramsAccording to the article they are still in active development. They got patches for the 2.6.25 kernel so somebody is still working over there.
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Re:This has already been done
More Info: http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9930664-7.html And PDF's with details from 2 conferences: http://www.techsec.com/pdf/Tuesday/On%20Demand%20Mike%20Duren.pdf http://www.marcomattiucci.it/ieong.pdf
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Re:Slightly overlooked here....
"Digital music is commoditized because without distribution the business is limited to where you can travel and play. The distribution channel propped up a usury business. Now it's gone and the music industry now has to add value to what they sell or lower prices. That is the effect commoditization has on an industry."
The cost of music isn't in the distribution (CD's are 10 cents a piece..it's in the actual content. This is where your logic is flawed. You are paying for the millions of dollars it took to produce it (and all the people involved in producing it).
This is innovation and progress:
http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9929031-7.html?tag=newsmap
This is not:
http://www.thepiratebay.com/
"The users 'get it' and slowly every other industry will 'get it' or die off. That is just how progress works... go ask a buggy whip maker?"
This is different. Buggy's weren't replace by something that still cost the buggy maker's money, but customer's didn't purchase. How is getting someone else's stuff for free progress and innovation? Progress and innovation would be artists and publishers giving their stuff out freely in digital form, not joe warez user downloading it from a bittorrent site. -
Re:Nope.
Those kids who spend all their time IMing and MySpacing, and can't focus anything for more than 30 seconds will be perfectly suited to working in an office. According to the article I linked to, most office workers get interrupted every 3 minutes. So these kids who have no attention span will probably be much better adapted to working in such and environment.
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Re:Slightly overlooked here....
I have some news that is probably bad in your view. I saw this yesterday "Lars Ulrich suggests Metallica could follow Radiohead" http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9929031-7.html?tag=newsmap and then there is Radiohead, NIN, and hundreds of small less known bands that sell their products online.
Digital music is commoditized because without distribution the business is limited to where you can travel and play. The distribution channel propped up a usury business. Now it's gone and the music industry now has to add value to what they sell or lower prices. That is the effect commoditization has on an industry.
Books were just not hit as fast with commoditization because there is no common method for reading texts that people readily enjoy. I get 7 tech mags electronically every month. They send them to me as PDF files. They would be free in print too, but my point is that originally several of these publishers tried proprietary formats. For the most part that was cool, but then you couldn't take it anywhere with you easily, couldn't share it like you could a print copy. Eventually, over the course of several years, they all stopped that and moved to PDF format in order to make their business model work. If they have no readers they have no ad revenue. Books are about to get the same treatment and all it will take is ONE publisher to put out electronic and paper texts. It's not about free, it's about freedom. Paying pumped up prices for a product is never good, and I'll wager that you can't find anyone that thinks text book prices for college classes are NOT pumped up ridiculously. If you think text books are priced well I'd ask you to explain their value in the 1/2 price books store. $100+ this year, $15 next year????? WTF? Did polysci202 change THAT much in a year?
Remember back when online colleges were thought to be a bit of a joke? Not anymore. I don't want free. I want reasonably priced. I have donated to all the F/OSS projects that I use regularly. I don't have any illegal copies of Windows or Mac OS.
The ONLY reason to get rid of the RIAA is because they are litigating asshats. If they had properly predicted what was going to happen to them, and directed their industry down a path of cooperation with the new technologies they would be just fine. What they did was completely the opposite and absolutely something deserving of punishment.
You see, it's not just about free. It's about freedom, common sense, and a sense of fair play. The electronic distribution channel has changed music, print, entertainment, and multimedia forever whether you or those industries like it or not.
The users 'get it' and slowly every other industry will 'get it' or die off. That is just how progress works... go ask a buggy whip maker? -
Re:I'm sure they predicted itApple is pretty good at planning things but they are secretive so you don't know what they are planning. Over 10 years ago, Apple bought NeXT to save themselves. Some analysts couldn't understand why Apple with it's faltering personal computer product line would buy a Unix computer company whose product line wasn't very successful. Was Apple going to start selling 2 product lines? What few understood was Apple bought NeXT for their OS expertise not their hardware business. That expertise became OS X. WTF? Every analyst (and even know-nothings like me) knew that Apple was buying NeXT for their OS (and Steve Jobs, of course). Mac OS (version 7 at the time) was an archaic mess underneath its pretty interface and the Copland project (which was supposed to modernize Mac OS) had been cancelled. Every analyst, business journalist, and tech enthusiast knew that Apple had been having discussions for months with Be Inc. so that Apple could use the PowerPC-compatible BeOS. What shocked most of these people at the time was that Apple bought NeXT instead of Be Inc. for their OS.
Let's go back to CNET News's story on that historic day (December 20, 1996): Apple acquires Next, Jobs- "In a stunning move, Apple Computer (AAPL) said tonight that it will purchase Next Software in a $400 million deal that will bring former Apple CEO Steve Jobs back to the company he cofounded."
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"The surprise merger also answers the long-awaited question of what Apple's next-generation operating system will hold. The company has been shopping for an operating system since abandoning its own Copland system earlier this year and had been negotiating with Be and other companies to fill that void.
Apple hopes that Next's object-oriented, Java-enabled open development platform will significantly improve its Internet and intranet position because its technology is agile. It also hopes to capture strength with Next's enterprise position.
Next's cross-platform development environments in the enterprise and Internet and intranet space allow developers to write once and deploy across a range of Internet and client-server platforms. Amelio said Apple expects to ship products with the Next operating system in 1997."
Actually, as someone who was involved in the lead up to the NeXT acquisition, was there that night (it was a long day), and was involved in the integration of NeXT into Apple, I have to say we were shipping Mac OS 8 at the time and then Steve worked to get OS 9 out to provide the bridge to Mac OS X.
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Jordan - "In a stunning move, Apple Computer (AAPL) said tonight that it will purchase Next Software in a $400 million deal that will bring former Apple CEO Steve Jobs back to the company he cofounded."