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Please provide evidence of your assertion.

https://www.theguardian.com/wo...
http://business.financialpost....
https://www.denverpost.com/201...
https://money.usnews.com/money...
https://www.moneywise.co.uk/ne...
https://mashable.com/2014/11/2... (a bit off, but works for boomers just as well)
http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/i...
https://www.buxtonco.com/blog/...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_...
https://www.amazon.de/Boomer-N... (don't worry, not a make-me-rich link)
https://www.bisnow.com/nationa...

And so on, but I think that should suffice. Pick the publication you are the most inclined to not cry "fake news" about.

> I'm not sure outside the greens echo chamber

You're over 40 aren't you?

A LOT of these companies' target demographic are millenials.
They care about green a lot more than gen-Xers do.
And even if the companies are run by gen-Xers and boomers, it is the customers who drive a company's decisions (at least it does if there is real competition).
Green Generation: Millennials Say Sustainability Is a Shopping Priority
Deloitte Survey: Millennials Increasingly Driving Force Behind Electric Utility Transformation
Millennials Are Shaping the Future of Energy Efficiency
Get serious about converting to renewable energy, the under-35 generation says by an overwhelming margin

TV is almost 100% reality garbage now because most people who still watch "regular" TV aren't all that swift, so the advertisers give them their junk food.

Top Ten List For Prime-Time Network TV - March 28th

1 Big Bang Theory - Which shouldn't need any introduction here.
3 Empire - Prime time soap opera with a mix of drama and contemporary music - with a Golden Globe and other awards to its credit.
8 NCIS
9 Blue Bloods - NCIS and Blood Bloods both long running police procedurals, a genre that network TV does very well.
10 Sixty Minutes,

The #1 on cable that week was The Walking Dead and #5 The Talking Dead --- and for those of us who have grown weary of the Zombie Apocalypse, the broadcast networks have quite a bit to offer.

I see 'streaming video on mobile devices' as another tech bubble that will burst sooner than most people think it will. There is only so much bandwidth available, and people keep demanding more and more of it, and all the while wireless providers like AT&T and Verison are literally gouging people for service,

Except "streaming video on mobile devices" does NOT imply that people are using their cellular data plans at all. The linked article even talks about people using free business/municipal WiFi.

I see it either coming to a point where you can't get more people and more bandwidth because it just doesn't exist, or it getting to the point where people are paying so much money that they start backing away from it

I don't see that happening... Spectrum reuse (smaller towers, lower-power antennas, with much shorter range) will allow the existing available cellular frequencies to be utilized many times more efficiently, blanketing small areas (neighborhoods) with much higher speeds, which don't interfere with the big towers covering large geographic areas.

The up-coming FCC incentive auction will give the cellular companies big new swaths of lower frequencies. Meanwhile micro-cells and pico-cells are decreasing in price and increasing in popularity with cellular carriers, and their operation necessarily involves higher spectrum reuse. LTE-U operates just like WiFi, on the same unlicensed frequencies and with a very small radius of service, and those devices should be available very shortly.

Meanwhile there are people like me (and I don't believe I'm anything like alone in this) who have no smartphone and see no reason to ever get one, because of how much wireless companies gouge for 'data plans'

You're not alone, but certainly in a very, very tiny minority. Back in early 2013, the majority of all Americans owned smartphones, and that trend has only increased several percent per year:

Early 2015: "overall smartphone penetration up to 77% of mobile phone owners in the U.S. Among recent phone acquirers, 91% chose smartphones as their mobile handset [...] Overall smartphone penetration continues to rise rapidly, increasing 8 percentage points"

While there's some truth to what you say about the two biggest US cellular carriers, it doesn't apply to T-Mobile/Sprint.

T-Mobile now offers unlimited video streaming (Netflix, HBO NOW, Hulu, more) that doesn't apply against your data allowance. And that's besides T-Mobile offering "unlimited" data plans for some time.

Sprint doesn't charge overages at all... they prefer to throttle your data connection down to much slower speeds, rather than disconnect your data, or charge you extra fees. And a Sprint service like Boost with several GBytes of data is just $30/mo, including most taxes/fees.

MVNOs can have even better deals. RingPlus, FreedomPop and others offer free plans that include cellular data. Some MVNOs like Republic will allow activating your smartphone for $10 with unlimited calling/sms, but NO DATA PLAN at all. You are tied to WiFi for internet, but that means no overage charges, ever.

That's insane.
http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/i...

They are the number 1 Demographic after general population. Almost all daytime television is aimed at them and most evening television.

When I can get Netflix for $8, Hulu for $8, and HBO for $15, why do I want to spend $100 for 1000 channels I don't watch.

Two reasons. One is that they're bundled with live sports or politics channels that you do want.

The math is easy here. Are live sports/politics worth ($100 - $8 - $8 - $15) = $69 to you? If yes, get cable TV.

The other is that the discount on Internet service for also having TV through the same company is sometimes larger than the price of TV.

This isn't universally true. Where I live, the bundle is cheaper -- for the first 12 months. Then the price goes up so now those live sports and politics are worth an extra $100 (compared to just netflix+hulu+hbo). If that is worthwhile value for you, by all means, get the cable TV bundle.

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Just some quick math:

According to Nielsen, in 2013 (last year I could find numbers for) "over 33 billion hours of national sports programming were consumed by 255 million people in the U.S.". That works out to an average of less than 11 hours per month per person. So on average, if people are only get anything besides Netflix+Hulu+HBO for sports, they are paying about $9.27/hr.

Outside of a subscription-based service, most 45-hour shows cost around $2 (or $2.67/hr) if you buy them individually (which is the most expensive way). Using this as a basis, that 10.78 hours sports per month on cable are about 247% more expensive entertainment per hour.

How many who whine about global warming and oil companies are willing to take a bus to work or ride a bike 4 hours each way? No hands I see ...

You don't see any hands because those are ridiculous solutions. I do know people who have, for sustainability reasons, moved to densely-populated areas and sold their car -- instead choosing to use public transportation, bike, walk, etc. (They rent cars/trucks when necessary, which isn't often.) Many young people are also making this choice, although I can't vouch for all of their motives.

Yes, the suburbs and many American cities are designed so that anything except a car is an impractical way to get around (with limited exceptions). However, that doesn't mean that cars are the only solution to transportation. It simply reflects where you chose to live.

So who is submitting all of that data for the many people picking up the broadcast over their own antenna?

I thought the name Nielsen would be familiar to anyone who chooses to participate int his topic, but I guess I was wrong. Nielsen families are voluntarily logging their data and handing it over.

And actually, I wouldn't care in the slightest if Aero wants to tell any ratings people that 14,532 people were tuned to NBC at 9:00P.M.

Except that's not all of what they'd need to report. Geographic data, too. And they'd have to collect that data, which many people would object to on principle. Perhaps you don't read /. discussions about privacy and corporate data collection?

At the same time, the ratings people are perfectly free to have Aero customers volunteer

So you're ok with Aereo handing their customer list over to Nielsen so they can send out logs to Aereo customers?

If the ratings people for some strange reason decided not to allow people who own Sony TVs to participate,

If the sky was green and the sun came up in the west ... Impossible hypothetical statements do little to further clarity.

there's a very strange thing going on. Mobile web traffic has iOS using TWICE the amount of data over Android. Or, put another way, 1 iOS user consumes as much data as 8 Android users.

Only in your mind.

Or maybe if you're still living in 2008. Android data usage overtook iOS in mid-2011 and is currently sitting at a little over double Apple's usage numbers. Looking at actual recent US carrier data suggests that there's little difference between the two, and owners of both OSs consume roughly comparable amounts of data.

http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/newswire/2011/android-leads-u-s-in-smartphone-market-share-and-data-usage.html
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-users-were-responsible-for-more-than-40-of-global-mobile-data-usage-in-December_id50847
http://www.fiercewireless.com/special-reports/average-android-ios-smartphone-data-use-across-tier-1-wireless-carriers-thr-1

No, this has nothing to do with hardcore vs. casual gaming (that's a tangential topic). What I'm saying is that Apple simply doesn't get gaming, period, nor do I even think that the picture you've painted is factual (e.g. the majority of households in the U.S. have a current-gen console, suggesting that tablets and smartphones haven't proven to be enough to fulfill their gaming needs). Moreover, your statement is predicated on the assumption that because a company has made a platform on which successful games can be made, that they themselves must also get gaming (i.e. "PCs have lots of great games, and HP makes PCs, so HP must get gaming"). While that may be the case, I do not believe that is by any means a safe assumption.

To date, Apple's success in this area has been largely accidental. They've made repeated statements to the effect that they were caught entirely by surprise at the fact that gaming took off in the way it did on the platform they built. But just because some developers have been able to make good games on Apple's platform does not mean that Apple itself really groks gaming. Their last dedicated gaming product was the ill-fated Pippin, and while the company has come a LONG way since then, reports over the years have indicated that their efforts to improve gaming on their platforms have been halfhearted and misguided.

For instance, I recall a story that Gabe Newell used to tell (but can't find a link for it, unfortunately) about how Apple would contact Valve periodically after Half-Life came out, asking them what they could do to make the Mac a more appealing platform for Valve's games. An earnest Apple rep would come out to Valve HQ, sit down for a few hours, take down copious notes over issues with the hardware and software that were keeping Valve off the Mac, would go back to Apple, and then would never be heard from again. The next year Valve would get the same call and a fresh, earnest Apple rep would come out and repeat the process.

As another example, consider Apple's primary product that's dedicated to gaming right now: Game Center in iOS. The feature has been baked into iOS for a few years at this point, yet it rarely gets used by games, other than for achievements, simply because it isn't that useful of a tool to most gamers or game developers. In fact, the first popular game that actually used it (Letterpress) was able to bring Game Center to its knees in just a few days, despite only using it for player matching and notifying players it was their turn.

Don't get me wrong, I love both my iPhone and iPad (and my Macs, yes, plural), and my collection of iOS games is over a hundred strong, but that doesn't change the fact that I believe it's the developers who get gaming, not Apple, and that any attempts on Apple's part to usurp the role of dedicated gaming consoles would be a setback to gaming, in that we would see the will of a company that doesn't get gaming being imposed on the community as a whole. I'm fine with them being a player in the market, but the idea that Apple can "[roll] the console guys really easily" is one I do not find appealing whatsoever.

Here's another citation for ya: http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobile/survey-new-u-s-smartphone-growth-by-age-and-income/

56% of people ages 18-24 making less than $15k/year own smartphones.
43% of people ages 25-34 making less than $15k/year own smartphones.

Your kids probably want an iPad, a WII-U or an iPod Touch if surveys are anything to go by:

http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/consumer/u-s-kids-continue-to-look-forward-to-iholiday/

My first post ever... how was this modded a 5?

I said BEGINNING its death spiral. That you can't see a trend right before your very eyes says more about you than Apple.

Right back at you.

Top Execs fired at apple for major maps failures.

This is not a bad thing for Apple. Firing people who do a terrible job is a good thing.

Deliberate production caps on new releases just so they can say they sold out.

Even after looking at your source... this is a load of crap. Do you have any idea how long it takes to get production ramped up to ship the first 5 million units? I would say this is an operational reality, not a marketing decision to have shortages.

Iphone 5 sales faltering.

This article said nothing of faltering sales. It said some analysts took a dartboard approach toward estimating sales.

Samsung is ecstatic about selling 16 million GS3's in a quarter. Apple sold 5 million iphones in a week. But sure, iphone sales are 'faltering'...

3 out of 4 smartphones purchases are Android.

Apple isn't looking to have the highest market share. The highest market share of smartphones (now that they are mainstream and more phone buyers are choosing smartphones) will be the smartphones that are free on contract. Android phones can be had free on contract, iphones can't. Apple doesn't care about not having the highest market share of smartphones. Samsung isn't looking for the GS3 to have the highest market share either. They both want profits, not highest market share.

Apple needs a refresh. Their initial sale clime with every new release is merely eating their own young, reselling to the same customer base while quietly running buy-back programs to take their old units off the street.

You are confusing deployed numbers with new new purchases which blinds you to trends. With a 3 year head start, Apple has a lot of faithful, who re-buy Apple each time. But New (first time) smartphone phone buyers are going 54% to Android and a distant 36% to Apple. The irresistible lure of Apple has worn off.

The market is calling TOP for Apple right now.

The market is not calling top for Apple right now. Large investors are beating down the price of AAPL, so they can get in at a lower price. It happens all the time, and it is easier to do when a bunch of reviews come out saying that Apple has terrible quality on the iphone, that maps sucks, that they don't have widgets, etc...

Clearly, consumers have a different take on 'quality' than the reviewers do.

For the record, I have only owned android phones, have had an ipad and a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (which I currently use). I recently bought an HTC One X. Not a fanboy by any means, but to say Apple is in the beginnings of a death spiral is lunacy. They are on track to sell close to 50 million iphones this quarter. That's quite a death rattle.

Disclosure: I am long AAPL.

I said BEGINNING its death spiral. That you can't see a trend right before your very eyes says more about you than Apple.

Top Execs fired at apple for major maps failures.
Deliberate production caps on new releases just so they can say they sold out.
Iphone 5 sales faltering.
3 out of 4 smartphones purchases are Android.

Apple needs a refresh. Their initial sale clime with every new release is merely eating their own young, reselling to the same customer base while quietly running buy-back programs to take their old units off the street.

You are confusing deployed numbers with new new purchases which blinds you to trends. With a 3 year head start, Apple has a lot of faithful, who re-buy Apple each time. But New (first time) smartphone phone buyers are going 54% to Android and a distant 36% to Apple. The irresistible lure of Apple has worn off.

The market is calling TOP for Apple right now.

They are not tracking you, yet. Nielsen is opt in.
http://www.nielsen.com/content/corporate/global/en.html

But then there's "Smart TV"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2117493/Samsungs-latest-TV-sets-built-cameras-spark-concerns.html

How long until it becomes monetized?

Their thinking simply doesn't make any sense.

- Androids are outselling iPhones (globally, maybe not AT&T specifically)
- iPhones currently don't have real 4G, which is over 3x faster than 3G on AT&T's network
- Android users now consume more data, faster, and put more strain on the wireless network at any given time, compared to iPhone users
- Skype is available on all major platforms and works over even 3G; quality is surely better on 4G/LTE.

And yet, they're blocking Facetime "out of an overriding concern for the impact this expansion may have on our network and the overall customer experience"??

Logic fail, AT&T. Just admit you're being greedy bastards and think iPhone users are more easily ripped off, that way you'll just be extortionists without also being liars.

iOS (which is BSD based) runs the majority of phones and tablets in use, while Android has the majority of the rest.

Citation? I smell an Apple fanboy.

http://fortunebrainstormtech.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/screen-shot-2011-06-21-at-6-28-47-am.png

Android continues to lead the smartphone market in the U.S., with a majority of smartphone owners (51.8%) using an Android OS handset.

http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/?p=32494

For tablets, Apple has a lead, but the numbers are quite low for total number of devices.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/01/26/android-reaches-39-tablet-os-market-share-standing-on-amazons-shoulders/

So overall, Android is king in marketshare. Not sure how you got "apple runs majority of phones and tablets". Maybe "only tablets, for now, because of headstart".

I guess Neilsen is lying on this page then when they state:

How We Do It

Panels
Electronic metering technology is at the heart of the Nielsen ratings process. Our tools capture not only what channel is being watched, but also who is watching and when, including “time-shifted” viewing.

Nielsen’s TV families represent a cross-section of representative homes throughout the U.S. Their viewing is measured by our TV meters and Local People Meters which capture information on what’s being viewed and when and, in the major U.S. markets, specifically who and how many are watching. Additionally, we collect more than two million paper diaries from across the country each year during “sweeps.”

Census
Using data from set top boxes, Nielsen delivers a constant, real-time stream of information, revealing tuning behavior during programs and commercials. We can tell clients which commercials are being watched and which have the strongest engagement and impact. We even analyze which position in the program or commercial block is most effective for a specific brand.

It's official: iOS now has more marketshare than Android. Reuters reports that Apple completely erased Android's marketshare lead, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. Over 150 Android smartphones couldn't outcompete the iPhone 4S. With 37 million iPhones sold last quarter, Apple is the largest smartphone marker, and their profits exceed Google’s entire revenue, $13 billion to $10.6 billion. Finally, with 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

Remember that Slashdot triumphantly posted in January 2011 about Android surpassing iOS in marketshare. A year later when the opposite happens? Not a peep. Talk about bias.

According to Reuters, Apple surpassed Android in marketshare by the end of 2011, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. 150 Android smartphones couldn't beat the iPhone 4S. With 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market. Apple’s profits ($13 billion) exceeded Google’s entire revenue ($10.6 billion).

Who cares? Well, in January 2011, Slashdot triumphantly reported that Android surpassed iOS in marketshare. All year, Android fans cited Android's marketshare as proof that it was taking over the smartphone industry, that the lack of centralized control was superior to the "walled garden", and that Android was "winning".

So what happened when the opposite occurred and Apple reversed Android's marketshare lead by the end of the year? Despite multiple submissions from several users, and news coverage ranging from Arstechnica to CNN, Slashdot refused to publish the story. All the sudden, it wasn't considered newsworthy despite the publication of the other story a year earlier.

This is a Linux advocacy site whose initial userbase was driven by hatred of Windows marketshare. Marketshare is still highly fetishized around here. Anything negative about the marketshare of Linux, or platforms based on Linux, gets killed. Slashdot is intentionally not providing you full tech news coverage because it caters to a specific demographic of emotionally-invested users who are more likely to generate repeat page views.

It's official: iOS now has more marketshare than Android. Reuters reports that Apple completely erased Android's marketshare lead, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. Over 150 Android smartphones couldn't outcompete the iPhone 4S. With 37 million iPhones sold last quarter, Apple is the largest smartphone marker, and their profits exceed Google’s entire revenue, $13 billion to $10.6 billion. Finally, with 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

Remember that Slashdot triumphantly posted in January 2011 about Android surpassing iOS in marketshare. A year later when the opposite happens? Not a peep. Talk about bias.

According to Reuters, Apple surpassed Android in marketshare by the end of 2011, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. 150 Android smartphones couldn't beat the iPhone 4S. With 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market. Apple’s profits ($13 billion) exceeded Google’s entire revenue ($10.6 billion).

Who cares? Well, in January 2011, Slashdot triumphantly reported that Android surpassed iOS in marketshare. All year, Android fans cited Android's marketshare as proof that it was taking over the smartphone industry, that the lack of centralized control was superior to the "walled garden", and that Android was "winning".

So what happened when the opposite occurred and Apple reversed Android's marketshare lead by the end of the year? Despite multiple submissions from several users, and news coverage ranging from Arstechnica to CNN, Slashdot refused to publish the story. All the sudden, it wasn't considered newsworthy despite the publication of the other story a year earlier.

This is a Linux advocacy site whose initial userbase was driven by hatred of Windows marketshare. Marketshare is still highly fetishized around here. Anything negative about the marketshare of Linux, or platforms based on Linux, gets killed. Slashdot is intentionally not providing you full tech news coverage because it caters to a specific demographic of emotionally-invested users who are more likely to generate repeat page views.

It's official: iOS now has more marketshare than Android. Reuters reports that Apple completely erased Android's marketshare lead, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. Over 150 Android smartphones couldn't outcompete the iPhone 4S. With 37 million iPhones sold last quarter, Apple is the largest smartphone marker, and their profits exceed Google’s entire revenue, $13 billion to $10.6 billion. Finally, with 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

Remember that Slashdot triumphantly posted in January 2011 about Android surpassing iOS in marketshare. A year later when the opposite happens? Not a peep. Talk about bias.

We're long past the point where any smartphone vendor spends any resources trying to convince people that smartphones are preferable to feature phones.

No actually we aren't. For example in the USA:

http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Smartphone-Penetration.gif

I'm calling B.S. I was raised in a single parent low income home where my mother was able to hold a full-time job and was still able to make us healthy meals. Morning was easy, just a bowl of oatmeal or such. Takes a whole 3 minutes for a PB&J, or even easier was to have yesterdays leftovers for lunch. Dinners would be pre-prepared or left in a crockpot or any number of different methods that were quick and easy.

I mean really, look at the number of hours spent on the TV each week and tell me they couldn't take 30 mins out every day for at least one decent meal. It all comes down to priorities. Nothing more.

According to Reuters, Apple surpassed Android in marketshare by the end of 2011, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. 150 Android smartphones couldn't beat the iPhone 4S. With 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market. Apple’s profits ($13 billion) exceeded Google’s entire revenue ($10.6 billion).

Who cares? Well, in January 2011, Slashdot triumphantly reported that Android surpassed iOS in marketshare. All year, Android fans cited Android's marketshare as proof that it was taking over the smartphone industry, that the lack of centralized control was superior to the "walled garden", and that Android was "winning".

So what happened when the opposite occurred and Apple reversed Android's marketshare lead by the end of the year? Despite multiple submissions from several users, and news coverage ranging from Arstechnica to CNN, Slashdot refused to publish the story. All the sudden, it wasn't considered newsworthy despite the publication of the other story a year earlier.

This is a Linux advocacy site whose initial userbase was driven by hatred of Windows marketshare. Marketshare is still highly fetishized around here. Anything negative about the marketshare of Linux, or platforms based on Linux, gets killed. Slashdot is intentionally not providing you full tech news coverage because it caters to a specific demographic of emotionally-invested users who are more likely to generate repeat page views.

According to Reuters, Apple surpassed Android in marketshare by the end of 2011, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. 150 Android smartphones couldn't beat the iPhone 4S. With 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market. Apple’s profits ($13 billion) exceeded Google’s entire revenue ($10.6 billion).

Who cares? Well, in January 2011, Slashdot triumphantly reported that Android surpassed iOS in marketshare. All year, Android fans cited Android's marketshare as proof that it was taking over the smartphone industry, that the lack of centralized control was superior to the "walled garden", and that Android was "winning".

So what happened when the opposite occurred and Apple reversed Android's marketshare lead by the end of the year? Despite multiple submissions from several users, and news coverage ranging from Arstechnica to CNN, Slashdot refused to publish the story. All the sudden, it wasn't considered newsworthy despite the publication of the other story a year earlier.

This is a Linux advocacy site whose initial userbase was driven by hatred of Windows marketshare. Marketshare is still highly fetishized around here. Anything negative about the marketshare of Linux, or platforms based on Linux, gets killed. Slashdot is intentionally not providing you full tech news coverage because it caters to a specific demographic of emotionally-invested users who are more likely to generate repeat page views.

According to Reuters, Apple surpassed Android in marketshare by the end of 2011, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. 150 Android smartphones couldn't beat the iPhone 4S. With 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market. Apple’s profits ($13 billion) exceeded Google’s entire revenue ($10.6 billion).

Who cares? Well, in January 2011, Slashdot triumphantly reported that Android surpassed iOS in marketshare. All year, Android fans cited Android's marketshare as proof that it was taking over the smartphone industry, that the lack of centralized control was superior to the "walled garden", and that Android was "winning".

So what happened when the opposite occurred and Apple reversed Android's marketshare lead by the end of the year? Despite multiple submissions from several users, and news coverage ranging from Arstechnica to CNN, Slashdot refused to publish the story. All the sudden, it wasn't considered newsworthy despite the publication of the other story a year earlier.

This is a Linux advocacy site whose initial userbase was driven by hatred of Windows marketshare. Marketshare is still highly fetishized around here. Anything negative about the marketshare of Linux, or platforms based on Linux, gets killed. Slashdot is intentionally not providing you full tech news coverage because it caters to a specific demographic of emotionally-invested users who are more likely to generate repeat page views.

According to Reuters, Apple surpassed Android in marketshare by the end of 2011, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. 150 Android smartphones couldn't beat the iPhone 4S. With 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market. Apple’s profits ($13 billion) exceeded Google’s entire revenue ($10.6 billion).

Who cares? Well, in January 2011, Slashdot triumphantly reported that Android surpassed iOS in marketshare. All year, Android fans cited Android's marketshare as proof that it was taking over the smartphone industry, that the lack of centralized control was superior to the "walled garden", and that Android was "winning".

So what happened when the opposite occurred and Apple reversed Android's marketshare lead by the end of the year? Despite multiple submissions from several users, and news coverage ranging from Arstechnica to CNN, Slashdot refused to publish the story. All the sudden, it wasn't considered newsworthy despite the publication of the other story a year earlier.

This is a Linux advocacy site whose initial userbase was driven by hatred of Windows marketshare. Marketshare is still highly fetishized around here. Anything negative about the marketshare of Linux, or platforms based on Linux, gets killed. Slashdot is intentionally not providing you full tech news coverage because it caters to a specific demographic of emotionally-invested users who are more likely to generate repeat page views.

If they wanted to promote controversy, they'd publish this drivel as is.

Because, really "Apple surpassed Android in marketshare" is "Research firm Kantar Worldpanel ComTech said Apple's share of the U.S. market doubled from a year ago to 44.9 percent in the October to December period, just beating Google's Android smartphones, which slipped to 44.8 percent from 50 percent.", "confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen" is "46.9% Android vs 44.5% Apple" and "and NPD [gigaom.com]" is "47% Android vs 43% Apple".

He doesn't even RTFA he links to, with 2 out of 3 "confirms" that are in fact "contradicts".

According to Reuters, Apple surpassed Android in marketshare by the end of 2011, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. 150 Android smartphones couldn't beat the iPhone 4S. With 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market. Apple’s profits ($13 billion) exceeded Google’s entire revenue ($10.6 billion).

Who cares? Well, in January 2011, Slashdot triumphantly reported that Android surpassed iOS in marketshare. All year, Android fans cited Android's marketshare as proof that it was taking over the smartphone industry, that the lack of centralized control was superior to the "walled garden", and that Android was "winning".

So what happened when the opposite occurred and Apple reversed Android's marketshare lead by the end of the year? Despite multiple submissions from several users, and news coverage ranging from Arstechnica to CNN, Slashdot refused to publish the story. All the sudden, it wasn't considered newsworthy despite the publication of the other story a year earlier.

This is a Linux advocacy site whose initial userbase was driven by hatred of Windows marketshare. Marketshare is still highly fetishized around here. Anything negative about the marketshare of Linux, or platforms based on Linux, gets killed. Slashdot is intentionally not providing you full tech news coverage because it caters to a specific demographic of emotionally-invested users who are more likely to generate repeat page views.

Slashdot refuses to report a story.

According to Reuters, Apple surpassed Android in marketshare by the end of 2011, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. 150 Android smartphones couldn't beat the iPhone 4S. With 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market. Apple’s profits ($13 billion) exceeded Google’s entire revenue ($10.6 billion).

Who cares? Well, in January 2011, Slashdot triumphantly reported that Android surpassed iOS in marketshare. All year, Android fans cited Android's marketshare as proof that it was taking over the smartphone industry, that the lack of centralized control was superior to the "walled garden", and that Android was "winning".

So what happened when the opposite occurred and Apple reversed Android's marketshare lead by the end of the year? Despite multiple submissions from several users, and news coverage ranging from Arstechnica to CNN, Slashdot refused to publish the story. All the sudden, it wasn't considered newsworthy despite the publication of the other story a year earlier.

This is a Linux advocacy site whose initial userbase was driven by hatred of Windows marketshare. Marketshare is still highly fetishized around here. Anything negative about the marketshare of Linux, or platforms based on Linux, gets killed. Slashdot is intentionally not providing you full tech news coverage because it caters to a specific demographic of emotionally-invested users who are more likely to generate repeat page views.

Slashdot refuses to report a story.

According to Reuters, Apple surpassed Android in marketshare by the end of 2011, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. 150 Android smartphones couldn't beat the iPhone 4S. With 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market. Apple’s profits ($13 billion) exceeded Google’s entire revenue ($10.6 billion).

Who cares? Well, in January 2011, Slashdot triumphantly reported that Android surpassed iOS in marketshare. All year, Android fans cited Android's marketshare as proof that it was taking over the smartphone industry, that the lack of centralized control was superior to the "walled garden", and that Android was "winning".

So what happened when the opposite occurred and Apple reversed Android's marketshare lead by the end of the year? Despite multiple submissions from several users, and news coverage ranging from Arstechnica to CNN, Slashdot refused to publish the story. All the sudden, it wasn't considered newsworthy despite the publication of the other story a year earlier.

This is a Linux advocacy site whose initial userbase was driven by hatred of Windows marketshare. Marketshare is still highly fetishized around here. Anything negative about the marketshare of Linux, or platforms based on Linux, gets killed. Slashdot is intentionally not providing you full tech news coverage because it caters to a specific demographic of emotionally-invested users who are more likely to generate repeat page views.

Moderators, this is off-topic. Slashdot refuses to report a story.

According to Reuters, Apple surpassed Android in marketshare by the end of 2011, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. 150 Android smartphones couldn't beat the iPhone 4S. With 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

Who cares? Well, in January 2011, Slashdot triumphantly reported that Android surpassed iOS in marketshare. All year, Android fans cited Android's marketshare as proof that it was taking over the smartphone industry, that the lack of centralized control was superior to the "walled garden", and that Android was "winning".

So what happened when the opposite occurred and Apple reversed Android's marketshare lead by the end of the year? Despite multiple submissions from several users, and news coverage ranging from Arstechnica to CNN, Slashdot refused to publish the story. All the sudden, it wasn't considered newsworthy despite the publication of the other story a year earlier.

This is a Linux advocacy site whose initial userbase was driven by hatred of Windows marketshare. Marketshare is still highly fetishized around here. Anything negative about the marketshare of Linux or platforms based on Linux, gets killed. Slashdot is intentionally not providing you full tech news coverage because it caters to a specific demographic of emotionally-invested users who are more likely to generate repeat page views.

Slashdot refuses to report a story.

According to Reuters, Apple surpassed Android in marketshare by the end of 2011, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. 150 Android smartphones couldn't beat the iPhone 4S, and with 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

Who cares? Well, when 2011 started, Slashdot triumphantly reported that Android surpassed iOS in marketshare. In fact, Android fans on Slashdot constantly cited Android's marketshare as proof that it was taking over the industry, that openness was superior to the "walled garden", and that Android was "winning". Marketshare is still fetishized around here and considered a sign of victory.

So, what happens when the opposite happens and Apple erases Android's marketshare lead by the end of the year? Despite multiple submissions from several users, and news coverage ranging from Arstechnica to CNN, Slashdot refuses to publish the story.

This is a Linux advocacy site whose early userbase was driven by hatred of Windows marketshare. Anything negative about the marketshare of Linux or platforms based on Linux, gets killed. Slashdot is intentionally not providing you full tech news coverage because it wants to cater to a specific demographic of emotionally-invested users who are more likely to generate repeat page views.

It's official: iOS now has more marketshare than Android. Reuters reports that Apple completely erased Android's marketshare lead, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. Over 150 Android smartphones couldn't outcompete the iPhone 4S. With 37 million iPhones sold last quarter, Apple is the largest smartphone marker, and their profits exceed Google’s entire revenue, $13 billion to $10.6 billion. Finally, with 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

Remember that Slashdot triumphantly posted in January 2011 about Android surpassing iOS in marketshare. A year later when the opposite happens? Not a peep...talk about bias.

It's official--iOS now has more marketshare than Android. Reuters reports that Apple completely erased Android's marketshare lead, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. Over 150 Android smartphones couldn't outcompete the iPhone 4S. With 37 million iPhones sold last quarter, Apple is the largest smartphone marker, and their profits exceed Google’s entire revenue, $13 billion to $10.6 billion. Finally, with 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

Remember that Slashdot triumphantly posted in January 2011 about Android surpassing iOS in marketshare. A year later when the opposite happens? Not a peep. Talk about bias.

It's official: iOS now has more marketshare than Android. Reuters reports that Apple completely erased Android's marketshare lead, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. Over 150 Android smartphones couldn't outcompete the iPhone 4S. With 37 million iPhones sold last quarter, Apple is the largest smartphone marker, and their profits exceed Google’s entire revenue, $13 billion to $10.6 billion. Finally, with 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

Remember that Slashdot triumphantly posted in January 2011 about Android surpassing iOS in marketshare. A year later when the opposite happens? Not a peep. Talk about bias.

It's official: iOS now has more marketshare than Android. Reuters reports that Apple completely erased Android's marketshare lead, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. Over 150 Android smartphones couldn't outcompete the iPhone 4S. With 37 million iPhones sold last quarter, Apple is the largest smartphone marker, and their profits exceed Google’s entire revenue, $13 billion to $10.6 billion. Finally, with 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

Remember that Slashdot triumphantly posted in January 2011 about Android surpassing iOS in marketshare. A year later when the opposite happens? Not a peep. Talk about bias.

It's official: iOS now has more marketshare than Android. Reuters reports that Apple completely erased Android's marketshare lead, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. Over 150 Android smartphones couldn't outcompete the iPhone 4S. With 37 million iPhones sold last quarter, Apple is the largest smartphone marker, and their profits exceed Google’s entire revenue, $13 billion to $10.6 billion. Finally, with 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

Remember that Slashdot triumphantly posted in January 2011 about Android surpassing iOS in marketshare. A year later when the opposite happens? Not a peep. Talk about bias.

It's official: iOS now has more marketshare than Android. Reuters reports that Apple completely erased Android's marketshare lead, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. Over 150 Android smartphones couldn't outcompete the iPhone 4S. With 37 million iPhones sold last quarter, Apple is the largest smartphone marker, and their profits exceed Google’s entire revenue, $13 billion to $10.6 billion. Finally, with 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

Remember that Slashdot triumphantly posted in January 2011 about Android surpassing iOS in marketshare. A year later when the opposite happens? Not a peep. Talk about bias.

It's official: iOS now has more marketshare than Android. Reuters reports that Apple completely erased Android's marketshare lead, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. Over 150 Android smartphones couldn't outcompete the iPhone 4S. With 37 million iPhones sold last quarter, Apple is the largest smartphone marker, and their profits exceed Google’s entire revenue, $13 billion to $10.6 billion. Finally, with 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

Remember that Slashdot triumphantly posted in January 2011 about Android surpassing iOS in marketshare. A year later when the opposite happens? Not a peep. Talk about bias.

The clock is ticking, Fandroids.

It's official: iOS now has more marketshare than Android. Reuters reports that Apple completely erased Android's marketshare lead, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. Over 150 Android smartphones couldn't outcompete the iPhone 4S. With 37 million iPhones sold last quarter, Apple is the largest smartphone marker, and their profits exceed Google’s entire revenue, $13 billion to $10.6 billion. Finally, with 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

The clock is ticking, Fandroids.

Funny that you mention the f word, after the expected RETURN of Apples marketshare lead has been comented as a "complete erase". Note: Apples marketshare accoring to the quoted market researchers is 44.9 versus googles 44.8. Wow. Beaten into the ground eh? And then.. 10.6 isnt Googles entire revenue. It s their profit. http://investor.google.com/financial/tables.html With all that said. Even if Apple had a marketshare of 70 or 80 percent or more on smartphones (NOT:all mobile phones): thats totally not a reason to buy their product. It would be a reason to worry bout market domination though. But besides that, for many people there are other more valid reason to decide for another phone.

It's official: iOS now has more marketshare than Android. Reuters reports that Apple completely erased Android's marketshare lead, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. Over 150 Android smartphones couldn't outcompete the iPhone 4S. With 37 million iPhones sold last quarter, Apple is the largest smartphone marker, and their profits exceed Google’s entire revenue, $13 billion to $10.6 billion. Finally, with 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

The clock is ticking, Fandroids.

It's official: iOS now has more marketshare than Android. Reuters reports that Apple completely erased Android's marketshare lead, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. Over 150 Android smartphones couldn't outcompete the iPhone 4S. With 37 million iPhones sold last quarter, Apple is the largest smartphone marker, and their profits exceed Google’s entire revenue, $13 billion to $10.6 billion. Finally, with 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

The clock is ticking, Fandroids.

It's official: iOS now has more marketshare than Android. Reuters reports that Apple completely erased Android's marketshare lead, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. Over 150 Android smartphones couldn't outcompete the iPhone 4S. With 37 million iPhones sold last quarter, Apple is the largest smartphone marker, and their profits exceed Google’s entire revenue, $13 billion to $10.6 billion. Finally, with 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

The clock is ticking, Fandroids.

It's official: iOS now has more marketshare than Android. Reuters reports that Apple completely erased Android's marketshare lead, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. Over 150 Android smartphones couldn't outcompete the iPhone 4S. With 37 million iPhones sold last quarter, Apple is the largest smartphone marker, and their profits exceed Google’s entire revenue, $13 billion to $10.6 billion. With 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

The clock is ticking, Fandroids.

The links GP provides don't really support GP's proposition (certainly I was surprised at his claims since they differed from the other reports I'd seen). For one thing, this talks ONLY about Q4 sales, not market share per GP's claim. Of course sales is a leader of market share, and if you can be dominant in sales, market share follows eventually. However, owning one quarter's worth of dominance can't exactly be called a pattern, particularly when there's a demonstrated strong pattern of customers holding out for the new product launch that happened for iOS in this quarter.

Apple certainly had a good quarter, and made up some of the gap between themselves and Android, but still 51% of Q4 new smartphone sales belonged to Android (compared to 37% for iOS). This is according to GP's own link. Another of GP's links has iOS at 43% of the new sales compared to Android's 47% of new sales, but still Android is outselling iOS by that report; just not by as wide of a margin. The only report to actually support GP's claim of the three provided by GP has a difference in sales of 0.1% - far, far less than any margin of error could have been, so at best it could be claimed by this report that it can't be shown that iOS is still losing market share to Android; no claim that one or the other is dominant could be made from such a narrow margin.

It still has jack squat to do with an interesting hardware/software hack between a phone, a projector, and a Kinect. A little more responsive, and something like this would make a fantastic presentation platform.

It's official: iOS now has more marketshare than Android. Reuters reports that Apple completely erased Android's marketshare lead, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. Over 150 Android smartphones couldn't outcompete the iPhone 4S. With 37 million iPhones sold last quarter, Apple is the largest smartphone marker, and their profits exceed Google’s entire revenue, $13 billion to $10.6 billion. With 15 million iPads sold last quarter, the tablet market is now larger than the entire desktop PC market.

The clock is ticking, Fandroids.

It's official: iOS now has more marketshare than Android. Reuters reports that Apple completely erased Android's marketshare lead, confirming earlier reports by both Nielsen and NPD. Over 150 Android smartphones couldn't outcompete the iPhone 4S.

The clock is ticking, Fandroids.

In what world does a platform need to control dominant (or complete) market share to be a success? Oh, that's right, in the pathetic little walled garden world of the iphone dweeb. Clearly, if the iPlatform sells more devices that makes it the "winner" of life and all of the "losers" can pack it up, right? I will take my fragmented, constantly charging iphone knock off with pleasure if it means I can avoid thinking like you, EVEN IF the last software update ever made for it is '2.7.3'.