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Re:ROCCAT cares about Linux.
While you're certainly correct that could be the reasoning behind it... That would be some pretty stupid software design. (If your firmware updater can decrypt the firmware, so can I... therefore pointless.)
http://www.overclockers.com/fo...
I own several pieces of Razer hardware. I like it. But I think the reason reason they won't support Linux for this, is because they can't force you to log in to their cloud and run their spyware in order to configure your device within Linux. They don't want us to be able to talk to the devices correctly, because they can't enforce control over the device. Their market is small enough that opening up their lock-in for the sake of a few more Linux users is likely worth a lot less money than they make by monetizing your gaming preferences. -
"Without using liquid cooling"?
Except this is liquid cooling (~the refrigerant), it's just coupled very ineffectively to the CPU via air instead of direct contact. This refrigerator also makes use of a phase transition, unlike conventional water cooling (unless you're getting really toasty!), but it's not unheard of to build this into your rig.
But again, just blowing cold air is going to be rather inefficient for a single computer (data center is another issue I guess). Not to mention, you will need a *larger* radiator than you would otherwise, as refrigerators of course "make more heat than they make cold," and they just pipe the heat off to the air. So...the TDP of your case has now gone up by adding this unit. -
It worked for F@H
It used to be there was no Linux Folding@Home application. But there was a way to run the Windows CUDA application on Linux, and I did for a couple of years.
Here's a guide for that: http://www.overclockers.com/de...
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Not a new idea
People have been baking graphics cards to fix them for years.
It's a bit more interesting that they're claiming a 10-20 degree C drop in temperatures from drilling a few holes in the case around the fans. It really bugs me that laptop manufacturers seem to make really terrible cooling decisions. One old laptop I had (HP TX2500?) was notorious for heat problems to the point that a large laptop forum had a sticky with a list of things to improve it, ranging from removing the paint from the heatsinks to removing the foamy thermal pad between the GPU and the heatsink and replacing it with something which actually conducted heat. People reported huge temperature drops after doing these things, and I just don't get why companies won't sell something with a few simple, cheap tweaks which don't change the aesthetic but massively improve cooling.
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Re:vpn's also get you disconnected (short term)
I used a vpn almost all the time and my line stayed up pretty much 100%.this year when I moved, I transferred CC to my new place and I continue to run a vpn. I now notice, for some reason, that after a few hours, I get a loss of ping to anything. if I stop my vpn, the default router is still unpingable. what 'fixes' it is to reboot the cable modem (and my access pfsense router, which then gets a new dhcp primary addr) and then things are good again for a few hours. not sure if this is related, but if I don't use a vpn, the line stays up for days and weeks at a time. when I use a vpn, I get a few hours at a time.
Check your hardware, including your pfsense and cablemodem.
I'm on Comcast, and I run three VPNs over my residential connection -- SSL outbound from an internal NAT client to my work network for about 8 hours a day, plus a nailed-up outbound IPSEC tunnel to my personal server in Chicago, and I also have a listener for inbound OpenVPN sessions. All this and I've been doing about 100GB/month in torrents, yet my connection is rock solid.
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Re:Still better IMHO
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Re:NewEgg
http://www.superbiiz.com
http://www.mwave.com
http://www.tigerdirect.com
http://www.amazon.comThe recent Newegg suckage is discussed at length over at OverClockers.com
I too concur that something happened at Newegg last November that has greatly increased their suck factor.
After 10 years and over $100k in purchases, only since last November has it become difficult placing orders, receiving items predictably, previously opened boxes, wrong items, etc.
They are not horrible, just not any better than the other big shops. -
Review Roundup
A roundup of reviews from the usual major sites as well as others not mentioned in the summary above: Overclockers Review, Anandtech Review, Anandtech Undervolting/Overclocking, HardwareSecrets, Bit-tech, PCPer, Tweaktown, Hard OCP, The Inquirer, Techspot, Computer Shopper, Tom's Hardware, ExtremeTech, PC Mag, Overclockers Club, and Guru 3d
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Other Reviews
Where are the other review links?
http://www.overclockers.com/amd-radeon-hd-7970-graphics-card-review/
http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000250/#axzz1hFPj6oTt
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970/
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/49646-amd-radeon-hd-7970-3gb-review-25.html -
more sourcesIn case you want more than just hothardware, here's a decent selection
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Plastic deformation of the motherboard
From an article: "The PCIe section of the motherboard curling from extreme temperatures" (complete with a picture)
Aha, so this is why motherboards are generally mounted to the case with lots of screws?
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Overclocking Demonstration
I also attended the event, and wrote up a more detailed account of the demonstration and word record result for the overclocking audience: http://www.overclockers.com/amd-fx-bulldozer-breaks-cpu-frequency-world-record/
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To anyone who can replicate Firefox memory issues:
Does this resolve your problem: 1. Type about:config in the address bar of Firefox 4 2. Scroll down to image.mem.min_discard_timeout_ms 3. Simply change the default value from 120000 to 10000 http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6882338
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Re:Wasn't this the whole point of CALEA?
Once your users attempt to get their bittorrent clients into the more preferential QoS classes (and they will generally easily succeed at this simply by changing a few parameters), you need DPI to be able to recognize the traffic as a source for QoS classifications.
Kazaa in particular was a bitch since it can easily run over port 80 and even send a few HTTP headers for kicks.
e.g. read this thread : http://www.overclockers.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-232199.html
So please tell me how I block port-scanning filesharing clients (that don't use fixed ports or fixed ips) without DPI ? I'm pretty sure it's impossible, but hey, maybe I'm wrong.
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Re:Not bothered
Thru the magic of streaming and mythtv the only place my kids watch old fashioned physical disks is in the car. Can you even buy a blueray player for a car? For less than a kilobuck?
I have a passively-cooled Intel Atom-based system I put in a Hello Kitty lunch box that I could easily install in my car in about 10 minutes and use a BD player via USB2 or USB 3.
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=672562
However, I doubt the quality of most cheap BD players would allow for mobile use without skipping like crazy, especially on some of the rougher roads here in the Memphis area
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More Reviews...
Summary is a bit light on sources... pcper.com is good, but you should be looking at multiple reviews to get a well rounded perspective.
Here's a few:
http://www.overclockers.com/intel-i7-2600k-sandy-bridge-review
http://legitreviews.com/article/1501/1/
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3754/intel_core_i7_2600k_and_core_i5_2500k_sandy_bridge_cpus/index.html
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/processors/7689-intel-core-i5-2500k-processor-review -
Re:Woot! Microcenter in my area has this
Why is it just "newbies" that purchase small high value items from Microcenter? A while back I got a new, retail Q9550 processor for about $170. It was probably selling for ~$250 on Newegg or anywhere legit at the time, and today it sells for $275 at Newegg.
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=610809 -
Re:Burn, maybe not...
I've ignited shirts in 4 seconds with an 18 inch mirror. Sails are large canvas things and will ignite quite quick if you can deliver the needed energy. It's only a few hundred degrees; realize that the 90 degree weather outside comes entirely from the sun, not from the Goddess of Summer. What are you, Wiccan? Is our winter so cold because of the Calliach Bleuhr or however it's spelled?
Also: here is a copper mirror. http://www.overclockers.com/wp-content/uploads/images/stories/articles/Tales_of_a_Shade_Tree_Machinist_My_Homemade_Water_Cooled_System/so17.jpg
Being not-silver doesn't magically mean the damn thing doesn't reflect the HUGE amount of IR thermal radiation coming from the sun. Hint: if the object doesn't heat up, it's not absorbing the energy. The fact that copper absorbs certain wavelengths of light is interesting, and it will warm more than a silver mirror; the fact that copper absorbs photons at one frequency and emits them at another is also interesting, and it will not reach 3000 degrees and melt into a boiling puddle of molten copper just by sitting in direct sunlight. All light is thermal radiation, by the way; infra-red just happens to be invisible and also the majority of energy coming from the sun (see black body... the sun isn't quite it, but holy shit).
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Re:? Do you really think Intels are 4x faster
"If you're willing to overclock, the i7 can easily get a 50% boost for the $50 cost of a larger heat sink"
AMD can do the same thing: "Whew, what a ride. This processor (1075T) was a blast to benchmark and overclock. 4.5 GHz on air was just icing on the cake."
So Intel and AMD are even when it comes to overclocking, and six cores at 4.5ghz sounds pretty nice. -
Initial review...
Overclockers.com has a review of the Phenom II x6 1075T processor. Looks like it's got pretty good overclock potential and performs well against similarly priced Intel chips.
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Re:retire it
No, fit a PC inside it! Here's how: http://www.overclockers.com/how-i-pcd-an-apple-g5/
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Re:The irony here is...
OK, good point. But if most of the latency comes from the time the fake retail box is sitting in a bigger box, on a pallet, inside a container on a container ship in the middle of the Pacific, then the whole masquerade seems to be just a little more elaborate than it needs to be.
One particular detail bugs me: the package includes an instruction booklet with blank pages. Why bother with such an unconvincing detail if it's a scam?
It's as if somebody was honestly trying to fill a bill of materials, but simply didn't know what they were doing,
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Another, earlier, unboxing
Here's another earlier unboxing. http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6422351#post6422351
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Re:Somebody's gotta ask...
So, how soon until newegg.com has the fake ones in stock?
For the uninitiated: http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6422425
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Re:Vista
Everyone who have started using Win7 already are saying it's great. Even those who skipped Vista completely.
Do you have any actual data on that? I am not asking for a research but two or three links on the web will do: from people who had a good reason to ditch Vista and they are seriously considering switching from XP to Windows 7. Of course they have to provide some reasoning about it.
I am asking because I found Windows 7 to have the same problem with Vista: namely it works fine on my personal powerful system but it crawls on 6 older systems I have (Duron 1Ghz with 512MB ram). So I would have to throw these away and this is really not justified by the advantages of Windows Vista/7.
I also found this link to be of particular interest as it is targeted on my problem:
readers who have older PCs that function perfectly well but are a few generations behind current gear and curious about upgrading to a new OS.
Windows 7 is too slow on such a system. But XP works fine.
So the question is: Should I contribute to a landfill and throw perfectly funtional systems (they are only used for browsing, old games, coding and printing documents) to enjoy the Windows 7 benefits? I find the answer to be too easy on that.
But then, once I decide to stick on XP to these systems I find a good reason to stick to XP to all my other computers. Why should I be switching through operating systems since I can do my job and play my games as it is?
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Re:Intel counters with CPU+GPU on a chip
Microsoft wouldn't allow licensing dual cores on netbooks.
As far as I can tell, that's only regards Windows XP.
See this article (which, admittedly, its talking about a "nettop" box, not a netbook:
...first thing you see is that it runs on Windows Vista - XP under Microsoft's licensing terms for netbooks limited it to single core CPUs.Got anything which specifically states that other OS's besides XP (which they've been trying to drop support on for a some time now) is restricted regards Dual Core?
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Re:Great, until...
Increased bus speed = decreased stability, as it affects other components aside from the processor (and just because the processor can take it doesn't mean the other hardware can). I tried this years ago with an AMD Athlon XP processor that hadn't been "unlocked", meaning that you couldn't change the multiplier, just the FSB Mhz. I went through 3 processors, 2 motherboards, 1 RAM module, a graphics card and many annoying BSODs and system freezes before I gave up on overclocking that rig (it was water cooled too).
I recall having to underclock the FSB on cheap motherboards with AMD processors in order to get a stable system.
Back in the early Athlon XP days, you might buy a CPU with a 100 MHz or 133 MHz FSB and a motherboard designed to work at a 100 or 133 MHz FSB.
Overcloking Core 2 is a little different. You can buy a 200 MHz FSB CPU that is very similar to a 333 MHz FSB model and run it at 333 MHz FSB in a motherboard designed to operate at a 200-333 MHz FSB. Since the system board is actually designed to operate at this FSB speed, there are less chances of failure - the RAM and system chipset can run at their normal speeds. It becomes trivial to run a processor like the 2.2GHz E4500 (200*11) at a 266 MHz FSB, for example - without worrying about things like voltages or cooling.
On LGA 775 CPUs, the FSB can actually be changed by painting the bottom of the CPU
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Re:Peltier-Seebeck
I also wonder why no one has done a peltier thermoelectric module built into the chip http://www.overclockers.com/tips45/ to transfer directly to a cooling system. (water block or finned heat sink) With today's 3D chip technology, you could even build your chip on a curved surface to mate to a coolant tube...
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Re:Unclarity
I'm sure this computer would do the job: Fridge Computer
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Re:subsidies anyone?
An interesting aside wrt AMD. Apparently AMD's license for the x86 instruction set has a massive "catch":
http://www.overclockers.com/tips01276/
what clause 6.2 appears to say is that if AMD gets taken over or goes bankrupt, Intel has the right to end AMD's right to use Intel's patents and copyrights after sixty days notice. This would seem to mean AMD couldn't make x86 processors anymore.
The direct findlaw doc link:
http://contracts.corporate.findlaw.com/agreements/amd/intel.license.2001.01.01.html
So the arms race isn't so cut-and-dry because x86 is so pervasive. Any competitor would likely find themselves in the same situation as AMD because Intel holds the licensing trump card. Imagine being the startup trying to negotiate a fair arrangement under those conditions (i.e. where they could be truly competitive with Intel down the road). -
Re:So i guessEver heard of Silverthorne? Reap the whirlwind: http://overclockers.com/tips01150/
Hard core high performance (per watt especially) SOC.
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Water Cooled PS
Well, sort of.... http://www.overclockers.com/tips1240/index03.asp
The article is about building a plexi box, putting a waterblock in the box, then tossing the PS and some mineral oil in.
Just seems unsettling to have the PS in liquid. -
Re:Wow, talk about missing some details
It is very easy to fill up you inbox with Apple user mail.
Case mod
How does "should be hung by my testicles and lit on fire" sound to you? Not very pleasant to me. -
Re:welcome to the world of marketing
True but most arguments about privacy revolve around the unintended consequences that arise. Tinfoil hat conspiracies aside, add the phrase "Microsoft Executives say..." and it's enough to give anyone a slight case of the willies.
Here's a pretty good comment on the issue (the site name is misleading):
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When can I buy the software, not lease it?
Motivation for this thought comes from here.
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Funny, but no longer trueRecently I did 2 things:
- Installed Ubuntu
- Skimmed this Windows XP Install Guide
The basic premise underlying the above joke, that Linux is harder to use than Windows, is no longer true -- at least for installing the O/S.
I never thought I'd see this day.
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Re:Does size matter?
Except that in this case your so-called "already developed technology" isn't really devloped yet (at least not by AMD, 45nm & 65nm tech remains to be exclusively Intel secret sauce).
Ed over at overclockers.com often talks about this subject http://www.overclockers.com/tips01051/ -
Re:been there, done that
From the mouth of babes:
http://www.overclockers.com/tips907/
The words "fair use" do not exist in the Constitution. They are not listed as "inalienable" anywhere I have looked. "Fair use" did not even appear in copyright law at all until 1976.
By the way, if you wish to get DMCA overturned, please do so. I and many others would like to see this happen. But for now it is the law and if you would like to pick and choose which laws apply to you and which do not, then I exhort you to do so publicly in a spirit of true civil disobedience and not privately in the hopes you won't get caught. -
Combination of Protection
Besides Spybot and Adaware, I use the following programs:
SpywareBlaster - Prevents Spyware from being installed
Microsoft AntiSpyware - Completly free, and has nice active protection. Have a 'special' versions of Windows, use an alternate download source.
With respect to Viruses, please read the following article: Mega Antivirus Test.
Summed up: AVG sucks, Anti-Vir finds the most virus, Kaspersky 5 finds most unique stuff, and Kaspersky's online scan owns everything.
Also I'd recommend using a NAT. All of this is prevention/reactive stuff, though I think the Hijack This + Google is the best for nasty stuff, as mentioned. -
This is not news! Its just NORMAL!
This article from MAY OF 2005, shows why this is just spin - anyone who has been paying attention to AMD in the retail outlet sector should know that AMD has done well in this area for quite some time! The exact figure from last May was... You guessed it... 52%!
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Just Use Quiet Fans & Good HW
You have two choices other than dumpster diving - one is to buy really quiet components and other is go with fanless watercooling. I can tell you from experience that the fans make a really big difference. I usually buy the best fans I can afford and they usually run under 10-15 dB. It's hard to tell that stuff is even one, especially once you get the case buttoned up.
I have a case fan that I bought that runs at under 10dB - which less literally than a whisper. Keep the HDD and the CD/DVD drives quiet. Use a quiet power supply - yes, they make them - http://www.tweaknews.net/reviews/silenx/index2.php - that one is well under 15dB.
This link is to a quiet video card - http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/zm80d-hp.html. It works without a fan at all but is dependent on the case fan/cooling.
This link is to fanless CPU cooler - http://www.overclockers.com/tips1218/ - uses a pump and water tank.
That means that you should be able to have your system built and running at no more than 30dB, if you choose your parts right, which is really really quiet. Closeted away, in a cabinet or some such, and you'll likely not even know it's on.
2 cents,
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Re:Free AVG
A good indicator of the current standing of AV products (and it rings true from personal cleanup of around 10 virus infected machines a week, most of which have anti virus solutions installed) is http://overclockers.com/articles1260/
Interesting thing of note, trend micros online "housecall" virus scanner is now a fully java implemented scanner AND remover of viruss and adware. Finally a cross platform FREE quick scan that will find 99 out of 100 new virus infections :)
Also, are you refering to AVG "free" or their AVG pro? second product isn't that bad, but the free one, avoid it like the plague, the default scans it performs don't scan deep into compressed files and it doesn't have good configureable updateing (the key to most antivirus packs, of course, being regular updates).
Not had a chance to play with kasperski personally, know a few peeps who use it, and love it.
I myself run a good router/firewall host and don't use ANY anti virus suites, instead relying on trend online to scan incomming folders when i need it to, email defence done by yahoo! and half a brain about what to download/run/open.
Virus free useing this method for over 3 years now, and counting :) -
This mod is 6 years old!From overclockers.com in 2002 which links to older article from 1999.
not to flamebait but maybe they should call it SLASHDOT Where Old news is New news
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Old news
People have been doing this for literally years. This article dates from 2002, and it was the first one I found.
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this is news?
i thought this had been done before...and indeed it has
http://www.overclockers.com/tips821/
from 2002
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Re:terrifying, just terrifying
as for the core that the USA made, you have NO say.
Technically true, but so far from right I just had to comment. There are 5 root servers in the states, and 8 in the rest of the world. So, no, the 'core' is not in the US. In fact you have missed the fundamental point of the Net, for which your ARPA created it in the first place: there is no core.
Finally, sir, you misunderstand the point of the article: this is about power (read from about half way down). The UN wants more of it than it has. I myself am completely fine to let the US continue on administering F, G, H, C, and E, in fact I very much hope they do, because administering the move to the WGIG would be a logistics nightmare. More to the point, the WGIG wants to control the other root servers as well, and I am not prepared to let any one body control them all.
You will find few non-Americans who disagree with me, I think.
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Re:AMD has their own circlesThe personal gaming/high-performance market is going the way of the dinosaur. Most people I know are more interested in building small-form-factor/silent systems.
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Re:Bzzzttt!!!!!
I have to admit, that made me laugh. I've never met a nicer, friendlier, and more easy-going "unholy cult" than a group of your typical Mac users
So how do you explain how this guy got 1300 angry emails from mac users because he put an PC mobo in a G5 case? Thats sick. -
Proper case ducting...
is still one of the cheapest and most effective methods to lower heat. Few PC cases are properly designed with heat dissipation in mind. The blast-furnace temeratures of the Pentium 4 has driven many to search out inexpensive solutions. Before spending money on admittedly effective, but costly, hardware such as water cooling, it is well worthwhile to explore the benefits of proper ducting:
http://overclockers.com/tips1193/
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Proper case ducting...
is still one of the cheapest and most effective methods to lower heat. Few PC cases are properly designed with heat dissipation in mind. The blast-furnace temeratures of the Pentium 4 has driven many to search out inexpensive solutions. Before spending money on admittedly effective, but costly, hardware such as water cooling, it is well worthwhile to explore the benefits of proper ducting:
http://overclockers.com/tips1193/
http://overclockers.com/tips1187/