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And like all smart watches, the fitness tracking is bunk. The heart rate sensors are all wildly inaccurate

The Apple Watch heart rate monitor is essentially as accurate as a dedicated monitor, so it's as good as a chest strap device.

Why do Apple Haters insist on posting ideas that already are known to be false by everyone?

About the only useful function is GPS tracking your run, but a watch is a poor way to do that.

So I'll bite, why on earth do you ALSO think the watch is a poor way to do GPS tracking? It's actually pretty good. Anything that can get within a hundredth of a second of a proper split time is doing really well.

you take something other people would be ashamed of and brag about it?

What it is that I'm supposed to be ashamed of?

my 85 year old gramma can walk it in 20

Take another look at the treadmill picture. I'm walking 3 MPH on a 3% incline, which simulates the "intensity" of running. I doubt your gramma can do that without falling off and breaking her hip.

http://www.runnersworld.com/ask-coach-jenny/what-incline-should-i-use-on-my-treadmill

Normal walking - do you take a full hour for that mile or just ride your fucking scooter.

Takes me 30 minutes to walk a mile at my regular pace or 15 minutes if I'm in a hurry to catch the express bus. That's walking, not running. I don't want to end up like those skinny guys hobbling around after knee surgery because they had to show off at basketball.

Biggest reason for early death is heart reaching max beats.

I've always thought that was BS, and now you've provoked me to find a demonstration that you're wrong.
http://www.runnersworld.com/sweat-science/how-many-heart-beats-do-we-get

Correction: we both stumbled over a wrong web page. One hour running burns 150 kcal, not 550. No idea why my first hit confirmed your number more or less. There is basically no human activity you can do to burn 550 kcal in one hour.

One mile of running burns 150ish kcal. One hour of running burns over 500 kcal
ashttp://www.nutristrategy.com/activitylist3.htm/ seen http://www.runnersworld.com/fitness-calculators/calories-burned-calculator/ on http://www.cosmopolitan.com/health-fitness/advice/a29580/workouts-that-burn-more-calories-than-jogging// websites http://running.competitor.com/2015/03/training/many-calories-running-burn_123951/
You're the one mixed up here.

Because a slice of bread is not a sandwich?! If you want to argue about how much calories or kcals a slice of bread has then say so. It is difference if I imagine a real sandwich that was 400 - 600 kcals and you simply talk about a slice of bread that indeed only has 110 - 130. Anyway, probably you are american and a slice of bread is a synonym for a sandwich :D

Now you change to an 1700 kcal diet. What you think is happening? The layman would say: the body burns 200kcal fat, or muscles if he has no fat.
Truth is: the body starts saving! Nothing is happening, for a week or two weeks minimum. In other words the body prefers to adapt to the reduced kcals instead of attacking its reserves.

Drop your diet to 1700 kcal and your body go into saving mode and burn 1800 kcal per day.
see https://www.caloriecount.com/forums/weight-loss/truth-starvation-mode//

To forth your body to switch you need healthy food, and have to reduce kcal intake by about 1/3 below your burn rate. In other words: it is very difficult to eat less than you burn, because the body adjusts its burn and "waste" rate extremely heavy.

Except there is no peer reviewed scientific paper out there that says that. In every single study the body reduces its burn by less than the caloric reduction. Once again see https://www.caloriecount.com/forums/weight-loss/truth-starvation-mode//

I hear of runners running (no pun intended) into trouble when they are out practicing while wearing headphones. If she's just getting started, do you really want to prioritize on that?

Three posts in and we already have the obligatory "Why would you want to do that?" response. Some things never change.

It's a valid point - many races ban headphones and running on streets with headphones is not just a bad idea, it's outright stupid. Anything that reduces your situational awareness out on the road is a bad thing - especially when you're out on a 20 mile run and towards the end, you just want to get home.

Did you look in a runner's community forum?

http://community.runnersworld.com/forum/gear-electronics/

This is a really common topic there.

Can you cite some evidence please ChrisMaple? I thought this was refuted http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02...

Proof? You want proof? How about this?
http://www.runnersworld.com/fu...

Really? Where? Just because canned food is "processed" it does not make it bad for you.

There are countless studies out there regarding the health effects of processed foods. Twenty seconds on Google should answer your question.

And i have never seen a study to support this assertion in any way or form.

Then you haven't looked. You might want to actually study the issue before discussing.

After all bread is processed foods!

[facepalm]

Congratulations on your 4:54 in the Fifth Avenue mile.

http://www.runnersworld.com/ce...

How fast do you think you could run a mile if you spent 10,000 hours training for it?

If it makes you feel better, no one's brain releases endorphins during exercise. That's a myth: http://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/runners-high

Paul Ryan doesn't need a calculator. He could use a working stop watch or memory though.

[citation needed]

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/stretching-before-exercise-is-useless-738097.html

“The basic science and clinical evidence today suggests that stretching before exercise is more likely to cause injury than to prevent it.”
http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-241-287--7001-0,00.html

Several authors have suggested that stretching has a beneficial effect on injury prevention. In contrast, clinical evidence suggesting that stretching before exercise does not prevent injuries has also been reported.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15233597

“stretching before exercise is more likely to cause injury than to prevent it.”
http://www.amazon.com/Body-Science-Research-Program-Results/dp/0071597174/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329369249&sr=8-1 p. 218-9, emphasis in original

I'll copy it here:

By the way, here are some key useful health related links, and these are some of the issues I'd like to use such a system to discuss, refine, rebut, or promote.

On healthy diet:
http://www.drfuhrman.com/library/foodpyramid.aspx
http://drfuhrman.com/library/article16.aspx
http://www.amazon.com/Food-Revolution-Your-Diet-World/dp/1573244872
http://www.amazon.com/Diet-New-America-John-Robbins/dp/0915811812

Knife and blender skills for eating better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RhfAE6McrM
http://greensmoothierevolution.com/

On medically supervised fasting (both water and juice) and health:
http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/healthy-food-dr-fuhrman-on-fasting....
http://www.healthpromoting.com/why-water-fasting
http://www.fatsickandnearlydead.com/

And on getting enough vitamin D (in decreasing levels of recommended supplements):
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-vitamin-d/how-to-get-your-vitamin-d...
http://www.grassrootshealth.net/recommendation
http://www.drfuhrman.com/library/vitamin_D_recommendations.aspx

On vitamin D and pregnancy:
http://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20100504/high-doses-of-vitamin-d-may-cut-...
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health-conditions/neurological-conditions...

On autism and health care in general:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/autism-research-discovery_b_...

Understanding about good and bad fats:
http://peakperformance.runnersworld.com/2011/05/may-9-the-great-fat-deba...
http://nutsci.org/2011/05/04/the-great-fat-debate/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21515108

Mental health:
http://books.google.com/books?id=bCuC2H-6k_8C
http://books.google.com/books?id=RKZreNYKNHQC
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/06/what-makes-us-happy/...
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200912/dobbs-orchid-gene

Treadmill workstations for computer users (but be sure to get vitamin D being indoors so much):
http://www.engadget.com/2005/06/08/the-treadmill-workstation/
http://www.squidoo.com/wal

Right now about 50% of US land goes to produce animal products which are overall killing us with bad fats:
http://www.westernwatersheds.org/watmess/watmess_2002/2002html_summer/article6.htm
http://peakperformance.runnersworld.com/2011/05/may-9-the-great-fat-debate-does-the-total-fat-in-your-diet-matter.html
http://nutsci.org/2011/05/04/the-great-fat-debate/
http://www.adajournal.org/article/S0002-8223(11)00291-4/fulltext
http://www.ravediet.com/preview.html
http://www.fatsickandnearlydead.com/

And we can always grow food indoors using cheap energy and rock dust:
http://www.remineralize.org/
http://www.juliansimon.com/writings/Ultimate_Resource/
http://www.juliansimon.com/writings/Ultimate_Resource/TCHAR06.txt
"Why is the Food Outlook Made to Seem Gloomy?"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/10/17/hello-cheap-energy-hello-brave-new-world/
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/09/surface-area-required-to-power-the-whole-world-with-solar-power-wind.php

In general, people living longer is not going to have as much effect on the population as how many kids people have -- and that amount is falling with industrialization; in Italy, every woman has about 1.2 kids but would need to have 2.1 kids to keep the population from declining. The entire industrialized world has this problem (but not as bad as Italy in most places).

Just think of all the people around to pass on wisdom to the next generation.

Another relative here, in the USA. :-) Send me an email if you want, my address is easy to find.

She was my father's aunt IIRC. I only met her once that I can recall, when my father and I visited her home around 1985. But she might have been at some get together or other other times we visited that does not stick out in my mind. I don't remember her speaking English and I do not know that much Dutch. They talked and I went for a walk around the area. I was overdressed in a overcoat and hat, and some neighborhood kids pointed at me and said "gangster" and chased me a bit, and I went into a store to avoid them. So, that's mostly what I remember of that visit. :-)

I feel diet and lifestyle (and the extent to which genes may interact with interests and habits) have a lot to do with this though. So does very early life experiences. Even being born premature might have had some value, in that the slower we grow perhaps the slower we age? Not having kids may have been a factor too? Also, there is a lot to be said for a positive outlook on life however you get that.

Related resources on healthy diet:
http://www.amazon.com/Food-Revolution-Your-Diet-World/dp/1573244872
http://www.amazon.com/Diet-New-America-John-Robbins/dp/0915811812
http://www.drfuhrman.com/library/foodpyramid.aspx
http://drfuhrman.com/library/article16.aspx

Fasting (like for lent) which often connects to religion (and eating less in the past from being less wealthy) can also help:
http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/healthy-food-dr-fuhrman-on-fasting.html

And on getting enough vitamin D (and she was out and about plus maybe got some from herring she liked):
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-vitamin-d/how-to-get-your-vitamin-d/vitamin-d-supplementation/
http://www.grassrootshealth.net/recommendation
http://www.drfuhrman.com/library/vitamin_D_recommendations.aspx

Understanding about good and bad fats:
http://peakperformance.runnersworld.com/2011/05/may-9-the-great-fat-debate-does-the-total-fat-in-your-diet-matter.html
http://nutsci.org/2011/05/04/the-great-fat-debate/
http://www.adajournal.org/article/S0002-8223(11)00291-4/fulltext

Mental health:
http://books.google.com/books?id=bCuC2H-6k_8C
http://books.google.com/books?id=RKZreNYKNHQC
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/06/what-makes-us-happy/7439/
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200912/dobbs-orchid-gene

Treadmill workstations for computer users (but be sure to get vitamin D being indoors so much):
http://www.engadget.com/2005/06/08/the-treadmill-workstation/
http://www.squidoo.com/walkingwhileworking

Community level ideas for health:

I don't think it's the sweat that doing it. You (like most people) tie their shoes using a granny knot instead of a reef (or square) knot, resulting in your shoes coming untied easier. Check this for a refresher. Stuff you should know, news for runners (and other people who tie their shoes).

I've seen this article before a few years back -- either I was doing it wrong or it wasn't working as advertised. Either way, there shouldn't be an "art" to ensuring that my shoes stay on. I should be able to put my shoes on with minimal hassle and forget about them.

And everyone should know how to tie their shoes - it's pretty simple, and yet myriad people have their knots coming open all the time

I don't think it's the sweat that doing it. You (like most people) tie their shoes using a granny knot instead of a reef (or square) knot, resulting in your shoes coming untied easier. Check this for a refresher. Stuff you should know, news for runners (and other people who tie their shoes).

I've seen this article before a few years back -- either I was doing it wrong or it wasn't working as advertised. Either way, there shouldn't be an "art" to ensuring that my shoes stay on. I should be able to put my shoes on with minimal hassle and forget about them.

I don't think it's the sweat that doing it. You (like most people) tie their shoes using a granny knot instead of a reef (or square) knot, resulting in your shoes coming untied easier. Check this for a refresher. Stuff you should know, news for runners (and other people who tie their shoes).

Tiny Fey's SNL skit misquoted the comment by Palin about seeing Russia during a CBS interview.

The ridicule with humor tactic is straight from "Rules For Radicals" by Saul D. Alinksy, page 128, rule #5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage."

In this case the ridicule is built upon a deliberate deception. Palin said "You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska." What Tina Fey spoke is certainly more funny, but the real purpose of the script was not to inform, but to misinform using ridicule. It was character assassination. It was a very successful tactic, even if it was dishonest and deceitful. It is identical in tactic to that taken by NewsWeek magazine when they took a full body sports photo for their cover, cropped it to show just the left side of her face, zoomed in to produce a grainy, unflattering affect. The original photo is not so unflattering. Another site tried a series of photoshopped pictures of Palin in an attempt to devalue her greatest, and probably only asset, her beauty.

Most people, except those on the Left, saw through the deception by doing their own investigation. In the process they probably decided what most people who are neither Right or Left have decided, namely that Palin is short on substance. There is little difference between reading notes off the palm of your hand versus off of a pair of teleprompters. With her as President we'd have another C student in the Whitehouse.

The USA is in a financial, political and social morass of such proportions that only the 1776 Revolution, the Civil war and the Depression of the 1930s comes close. In fact, we are probably in the Second Great Depression. Of ALL the candidates I've studied, from either side of the isle, or in the "Tea Party", there appears no one who has the knowledge, training or intelligence to serve in the Whitehouse during this time. The Right & the GOP are married to corporate powers, and even the far Left is in pursuit of corporate finance money, although they try to lie about it and hide behind mindless slogans. I fear for this country and for the futures of my grandchildren.

Everybody in this thread and below seems to think the monitors are going to be used for medical monitoring. But the summary doesn't say that, and I doubt that's the case.

Heart rate monitors are pretty commonly used in cardio training to help individuals identify an optimal level of exertion to benefit from their workout. Presumably, giving heart rate monitors to different kids with widely varying fitness levels might allow a gym teacher to tailor activities to each kid and help them track their own, individual progress. I'm not sure that the tech is really necessary for 7th and 8th graders, but it's not as harebrained as medical diagnosis.

So all that watching videos, measuring my arch with the "water and paper bag" method to find out if I am a "normal pronator" http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-240-319-327-7727-0,00.html , etc. all means exactly bupkis? Wonderful! I still think I want a shoe to run in though, but maybe I'll just go pick something comfortable and not too expensive instead of worrying about which one has the right "control" of pronation, which one has the right support, etc.

Why resort to a method of getting your cardio up that beats the crap out of your joints when you can get the same exact effect another way?

Two reasons - firstly, you can't get the same effect another way. If all you're looking for is to keep your heart healthy enough to stay alive, "half an hour of moderately brisk walking" is probably enough. If you want to improve your fitness level, running will expend a heck of a lot more energy, work your cardiovascular system harder and make your body adapt faster. To get real benefit from exercise you want to reach your target heart rate and sustain it - something that you'll find hard with a brisk walk.

Secondly, "beat[ing] the crap out of your joints" is, in fact, one of the benefits of jogging. As long as you don't overdo it you'll strengthen your joints and your bones. I would also point out that since the number one risk factor for joint problems is being overweight, deliberately increasing the weight your joints are carrying may not be a good solution for those trying to avoid joint pains

(References: http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-241-285--12232-0,00.html , http://running.about.com/od/gettingstarted/a/101whyrun_3.htm )

I'm slowly losing the battle with the bulge as well but I've had some success over the last couple of years. Last year I trained for and ran the Chicago Half Marathon. I used the Smart Coach from runnersworld.com New city, some excitement and a goal really made it all worth it. I ran it alone and didn't get the greatest time in the world but I finished. I'm glad I did it.
This year I got some workout videos and am now doing a very rigorous program called P90X in the mornings every day. It is making a big difference. If you don't want to go out you don't have to. I'm a big fan of the workout routine at this point and would recommend it to anyone who is relatively in shape and wants something more. It's a 90 day program which is nice for the goal setting as well. And it changes up once in a while so it doesn't get too stale.

The problem is that folks generally have this view that they could never run a marathon, so why run at all (extend that to any given sport)? The answer is to recognize that pretty much anyone can improve their fitness from where it's at today, and it's amazing to see how quickly the body can become accustomed to an increased level of activity, so long as the increase is kept within reasonable bounds. Being more fit makes just about every daily activity more fun and less stressful, and it amazes me that in so many of the 'self-help' TV shows that are on the tube these days, they turn to surgery for what is really just a lack-of-exercise problem.

The current issue of Runner's World Magazine has a picture of a lady with one artificial leg on the cover. She does triathlons, and has to change legs 4 times for a race (a swim leg, a run leg to get to her bike, a bike leg, and the run leg again.)

Do you have any hints regarding how one gets proper running shoes. Is there a scientific method to it?

If you go to the deep linked page: http://www.runnersworld.com/home/0,1300,1-0-0-1963 -1-0-P,00.html, you will be redirected to the non-printer page. However, clicking the printer link in the article will take you to the same URL.