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My nipples explode with delight! My hovercraft is full of eels.

you can check buddhism : since the world only exists as part of the mind of people, it is not possible for people to cause accidents due to "not knowing" something, since they know about the entire world.

There is suffering.
It has a beginning.
It has an end.
There is nirvana.
http://www.serve.com/cmtan/Dhammapada/
Pretty easy to check indeed. Well, except for the "end of suffering bit" ... I'll get back to you on that. = ) The parallels betwixt eastern philosophy and subatomic particle physics are legion. Check out "The Tao of Physics" by Fritjof Capra, for a primer.
Acceptable proof would be observing God, of course. I find flowers to be acceptable proof. They don't have to be pretty to humans to serve their function as plant sex organs ...
Flowers are something extra.

open source developers (and other freeware programmers in general) do what they do because they're bored and have nothing better to spend their time on

You could say that about any pastime, from climbing mountains in Tibet, through to watching TV. We do it because we'd be bored if we didn't.

For further insight into the very, very obvious, check Miss Anne Elk's new theory about the brontosaurus.

They are called solar stills.
While easy in design they are rather expensive, require huge areas of land to produce sizable quantities of water and weather dependant. Also you cannot have moving water since it needs time to heat up so that steam is produced

Here's a lot of reading material. Some more. A little more. And to top things off here's another article.

Are there plenty of people who feel remorse for killing people if it was a crime of passion or one that they didn't truly want to do but felt compelled to anyways? Sure. But it goes both ways, and there are plenty of people who quite honestly are so deranged that they don't feel any remorse for what they've done. A peer-reviewed scientific study showing that most killers aren't wracked with guilt? I doubt anyone has the time or inclination to play Search-Engine-Monkey for you. Go ahead and get evidence your evidence before you start demanding it from other people. There are plenty of cases where the fact of the matter is that these killers are remorseless, you only have to know an inkling about psychology to understand that. In fact, plenty of these murderers feel justified fully in their actions.

Listen to elucido, he's trying to help you understand the situation. Most people who kill do it because they have serious problems.

"Of course, we can't forget the Japanese-American internment camps run by the US during WWII. I'll let you do your own research on those camps, since the whole subject is far too massive to describe adequately here."

And we should also remember the Italian-Americans and the German-Americans that were also interned by the US during WWII:

http://www.serve.com/shea/germusa/itintern.htm
http://www.foitimes.com/internment/udq.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_int ernment

And, unlike Japanese-American internees, it appears that Italian-American and German-American internees have never received any compensation.

Yes, back in our days...

Whoever modded this troll is an idiot.

Are they pre-sliced, rustproof, easy-to-handle, low calorie, simpson's individual emperor stringettes, free from artificial coloring, as used in hospitals?

http://www.serve.com/bonzai/monty/classics/TheStri ngSketch

Lets hope this doesn't turn out like the "The Hungarian Phrasebook sketch." "My hovercraft is full of eels," indeed. See http://www.serve.com/bonzai/monty/classics/TheHung arianPhrasebookSketch for details.

They had to hget the right Cohen...

Not Bram Cohen (something abbour torrents...)
Not Job Cohen (Amsterdamm== ... )
not leonard cohen for distributing copyrighted material. (although he does have an license for his material....)

well, some millions buy you a item low on this list.

Maybe he was after revenge...

:-)

E = mc^2 is Not Einstein's Discovery

Robert A. Herrmann

1. Introduction
It appears that some scientists have not received the proper credit for significant discoveries for which they have priority. However, without specific and irrefutable information, it is not possible to give convincing reasons why these individuals have been denied recognition and why others have been given credit for their scientific discoveries. In 1996, I was asked whether certain aspects of General Relativity were originally formulated by Einstein or Hilbert. (Hilbert presented the gravitational equation(s) prior to Einstein.) The questioner said that he knew very little about Einstein's achievements except for such things as "E= mc^2." I answered his question relative to the Hilbert verses Einstein controversy but I neglected to discuss the more easily explained E = mc^2. What follows in this short article shows exactly who developed the idea that "radiation" can be characterized as having an apparent mass and that it was not Einstein in his 1905 paper. Except for the last remarks on Olinto De Pretto, this article is concerned mostly with "radiation" and its relation to E = mc^2. ...

read more...

Michael.

What a strange name to give a supposedly useful website. Clearly, the Python language was named after Monty Python, but in trying to keep the joke going, they have made a bad choice in name.

In the Cheese Emporium sketch, the customer walks into to a cheese store, spends a great deal of time trying to figure out what is available, and in the end leaves the store angry and empty handed.

So if you go to Python's Cheese Shop, are you supposed to be tantalized with all sorts of wonderful modules, only to find there are none?

Here is a transcript of The Cheese Emporium sketch.

For some marginally good news for a change, as highlighted by jewishvoiceforpeace.org and corpwatch.org, according to an Apr. 15, 2004 Peoria Journal Star article:

Activists protested Wednesday outside Caterpillar Inc.'s annual shareholders meeting in Chicago, but lost their bid to get the Peoria corporation to study the use of its equipment in razing Palestinian homes overseas.

Stock owners defeated a proposal to determine whether the sale of bulldozers and other machinery to the Israel Defense Forces is consistent with Caterpillar's global code of business conduct. The Fortune 100 company's board opposed the measure.

Caterpillar's new chairman and CEO, Jim Owens, repeated the company's position that it feels compassion for displaced families but can't police the use of its more than 2 million pieces of equipment worldwide.

"After they've been sold, the owners of those machines determine how they're used," Owens told an audience of about 50 at the Northern Trust Building in Chicago's Loop. Some of the activists got inside the meeting because they or groups they represent own Caterpillar stock. Five of them spoke to board members before tentative voting results were announced; the measure earned support from about 4 percent of shareholders, which would allow it to be reintroduced next year.

Liat Weingart, co-director of San Francisco-based Jewish Voice for Peace, said more than 50,000 people have lost their homes in demolitions that often have no relation to Israeli security. Some Palestinians have been buried alive, she said.

Caterpillar is headquarted in Peoria, which is why the Peoria newspaper ran the story. I've been unable to locate any other newspaper running this story.

The Peoria newspaper portrays it as a loss for the activists, when in fact it is a major victory (the 4% means it has to be discussed at next year's shareholder meeting) and represents a creative and practical means for effecting change in corporate behavior -- much more practical than street riots.

As I've often stated, corporations should not be so large, last so long, and have Constitutional rights. However, if they have to be around, then the proposal contained in the conclusion of the seminal Small Is Beautiful for bridling corporations is good. Small is Beautiful says that since corporations are like mini-governments, run them as a democracy where all the stakeholders (all who are affected by the existence of the corporation, including investors but especially those who live near the corporation's activities) vote.

Failing those two -- i.e. if we can't ban large corporations and if we can't have stakeholders vote on how large corporations should be run -- then participating in the existing corporate governance process -- namely buying stock and voting at shareholders meetings -- is the next best thing.

This peaceful, legal alternative to reining in amoral powerful corporations has gone underreported.

See also the previous UnderReported.com stories:

• Feb. 6, 2004 With Israeli bulldozers, practice makes perfect
• Nov. 6, 2003 U.S. learning urban warfare from IDF: armored D-9s to take down buildings

Impermanence
-- Thich Nhat Hanh

Nothing remains the same for two consecutive moments. Heraclitus said we can never bathe twice in the same river. Confucius, while looking at a stream, said, "It is always flowing, day and night." The Buddha implored us not just to talk about impermanence, but to use it as an instrument to help us penetrate deeply into reality and obtain liberating insight. We may be tempted to say that because things are impermanent, there is suffering. But the Buddha encouraged us to look again. Without impermanence, life is not possible. How can we transform our suffering if things are not impermanent? How can our daughter grow up into a beautiful young lady? How can the situation in the world improve? We need impermanence for social justice and for hope.

If you suffer, it is not because things are impermanent. It is because you believe things are permanent. When a flower dies, you don't suffer much, because you understand that flowers are impermanent. But you cannot accept the impermanence of your beloved one, and you suffer deeply when she passes away.

If you look deeply into impermanence, you will do your best to make her happy right now. Aware of impermanence, you become positive, loving and wise. Impermanence is good news. Without impermanence, nothing would be possible. With impermanence, every door is open for change. Impermanence is an instrument for our liberation.

http://www.serve.com/cmtan/buddhism/Treasure/imper manence.html

Serves me right, starting a conversation on the internet with someone who knows the whole truth. Sigh. Look, it is impossible to have a rational conversation if you insist on bringing up dogma. It's not a conversation, it's a sermon - or worse, a Monty Python sketch.
Where do I start? The moment I tell you that the Old Testament is a series of stories meant to help keep the Jewish tribes together in the face of oppression from all sides (which is why they all contain nothing more than teachings designed to build a sense of nation) - is the moment you call me a blasphemer, and the moment I tell you that the New Testament is full of inconsistencies you choose to ignore because dogma blinds you - is the moment the conversation ends because dogma prevents you from having any sort of conversation that doesn't involve some mystical mumbo-jumbo.
One doesn't need to call the Bible a lie - one only needs to look at it and realise it is but a BOOK. The fact that you choose to believe in its truth doesn't make it any truer than any other book of ancient myths - why, pray tell, would you believe that someone was born from the womb of a virgin then raised the dead, but not believe that a woman was born by parthenogenesis from her father's forehead? They are equally preposterous propositions, and nothing but myths - even though there are books written on them, and at one point quite a few people believed the latter over the former. The fact that you believe one over the other is not a sign of wisdom, it is at best a matter of personal choice, or more accurately a matter of environment, education and peers.
I hate to do this quote business again, because whenever someone starts quoting it means they have run out of intelligent things to say, but I am too tired today so here's one from Mark Twain: "Man is the religious animal. He is the only religious animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion -- several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbour as himself and cuts his throat, if his theology isn't straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother's path to happiness and heaven".
No emphasis on any of the words, just a simple series of sentences you might actually want to consider.
Besides - man (and I do mean that, MAN, as in homo sapiens, the only animal capable of rational thought), if you want to believe that you need to pray and ask for forgiveness for imagined transgressions or actual misdeeds, and then have some sort of wise Creator actually care, then by all means go ahead, knock yourself out. As long as it makes you happy and you don't hurt anyone in doing so, it's all good. But do allow us poor sceptics to treat the Bible, all the prophets and the signs, and all religions for that matter, with bemused indifference and not a little sarcasm. We have our own truths, which we hold very dear, just as you do yours - the difference being, we are really fond of reason and logic, which means we can be persuaded we were wrong if the proper arguments are proposed and demonstrated. Otherwise it all looks like voodoo trickery for the weak-willed, and a pitiful waste of grey matter.
P.S. The 'no free man needs a god' bit is from Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov. And it needs no proof whatsoever, since it is merely an opinion. That of a free man who found theolatry degrading and decided he didn't need a god. A choice like any other, except perhaps based on, dare we say it, reason?

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I believe in the "sanctity" of "life", and I think it's wrong to put one person's heart inside another person's chest. If you want to give someone a working heart, fine, but grow one "from scratch". I "know" transplants are just "wrong".

I believe in the "sanctity" of "life", and I think it's wrong to give one person the blood of another. If you need blood to save someone's life, then create blood "from scratch". I "know" transfusions are just "wrong".

I believe in the "sanctity" of "life", and I think it's wrong to perform artificial insemination. If you want to help people who are trying to have children, you should er... create a child from scratch? Or maybe just pray for them (a lot)? Anyway, I "know" IVF is just "wrong".

Guess what, creating those things "from scratch" is very, very hard. And assuming someone put the time and effort into it and created them, what then? A neuron would still be a neuron, whether it came from a brain or from a test tube. And if your problem is with the (abstract) "mind", then how do you manage to turn off your PC? A modern computer, running a modern OS, displays more "intelligent" behaviour than many insects. Is a "mind" any less "sacred" if it's silicon-based, instead of carbon-based?

These experiments are very much right, and should have been done a long time ago. Modern medicine can do amazing things with muscle and bone and skin, but nearly all nervous and neural diseases are impossible to cure or even treat. A lot more research is needed.

Neurons are no more "sacred" than any other cell type (spermatozoons, for example). In fact, millions of both are wasted every second.

Altogether now!

...you have a real base some where else.

wow, you couldn't be further from the truth.

that's why they have Tonopah Test Range

sure, the government doesn't try to say this one doesn't exist, but where do you think all of our top secret aircraft is flight tested?

my ex-roommate provided flightline security for the F-117A stealth fighter there in the mid 80's. that's right, in a time when the fighter didn't exist.

most of the UFO's people see flying around the area are only never before seen test aircraft.

Do you mean this? It can land on the Moon, Earth, and Jupiter! Only Mars needs to be implemented and then the ESA could use it!

"Making an MP3 of a small portion of a song to use as an example of that song is also fair use (in the more traditional sense). In fact, making a cassette tape of a CD and giving it to someone you know (without money exchaning hands) is also fair use."

Do you have a citation for this? Are these covered in copyright law, or are they more in the realm of not needing backup because everybody knows they're true?

Googling on "fair use music" gives me the following:

http://www.musiclibraryassoc.org/Copyright/guidemu s.htm

http://www.serve.com/marbeth/music_fair_use.html

http://www.pdinfo.com/fairuse.htm states: "We have attempted to do find specific details and examples of Fair Use of music. The rumors that it is OK to use so many notes or so many bars are just not true. There is little doubt that, other than private in-home listening and playing, Fair Use of music is extremely limited."

http://www.eff.org/cafe/gross1.html states that one can make a "mix tape" for one's own personal enjoyment (their words). There's nothing on the EFF page which gives one blanket authorization to make a copy of a CD and give it to a friend, whether cash is exchanged or not. Nor in this article, which was written by a lawyer.

A common point found in many articles I've read is the impact on the market. If the copying is done to avoid buying another copy, then it's not fair use. While making a copy of a CD for a friend -- cassette, MD, DAT, CD or otherwise -- might be solely so he can "sample" it or "try before he buys" or "evaluate it for consideration of purchasing it," in most cases it's not -- you are making a copy for a friend because he'd rather get a copy from you for free than to buy his own. Not a huge crime -- but not fair use.

Strangely enough, this glaring error still netted me a +4 Informative

(A more serious reference for the issue appeared in a not so recent edition of La Jaune et la Rouge, for those who doubt the link. Unfortunately, however, that story is not online)

Another link (mentioning btw the La Jaune et la Rouge article): Henri Poincaré : A decisive contribution to Special Relativity The short story

DEUTSCHLAND DEUTSCHLAND Ueber Alles!

Using that phrase is more than a little insensitive. In fact, using it in Germany can get you in about as much trouble as SCO can after this.

As far as I know that is still part of the official anthem. It is common misconception that it means that Germany's superior to everybody, it actually means that German national unity should come before the petty local and personal interests (it was composed back in other times). Alles means everything, everybody is alle.

This of course did not stop the guy with the moustache to shift the meaning in the direction he wanted, which left the song with a certain evil aura.

Some info at this link

Once, at a John Schofield gig I attended, a guy in the audience made fun of Scho for using a tuner. John snapped back nobody uses those anymore, except Bill Frisell, and he's weird. Maybe you had to be there.

For the record Schofield and Frizell are both brilliant players. I always tuned by ear.

"I remember on an old Power Mac 6100/66 with a dead battery, the time was always stuck on 1956."

It's reset to August 27th, 1956, the birthdate of the designed of the CUDA microcontroller.

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Salon has a pretty good story on XyWrite, the old DOS word processor which is apparently a favorite among a lot of writers. If you want to play around with it, you can build a "XyLite" system with a little work. Also check out the XyWWWeb, an excellent resource for XyWrite related stuff.

Salon has a pretty good story on XyWrite, the old DOS word processor which is apparently a favorite among a lot of writers. If you want to play around with it, you can build a "XyLite" system with a little work. Also check out the XyWWWeb, an excellent resource for XyWrite related stuff.

It appears to be a mix of leet speak, m00se credits and Knights Who Say "Ni", the latter two being from "Monty Python and the Holy Grail".

I suggest you go check out Tom Mahood's Blue Fire site. It has not been updated since the late '90s, but he spent a lot of time investigating various area 51-related stuff, and has put a lot of his findings online. He's a skeptic of the whole "alien saucer" theories, but has some interesting ideas of his own about what was going on at area 51.

Check out his "Hunt for 928" page - He spent a couple of years tracking down a crashed spyplane. Very cool.

>clue-bat

its good to see that InterLISP manuals are still required.

America, you're better off wrote J.W. Goethe, but in this case I disagree. In all of Europe, cell phone numbers can easily be identified as they have their own area code. While that may not prevent unsolicited calls (which are illegal in some if not all European states anyway), the simple fact that the caller pays for call and airtime usually will. Which - in my opinion - is only fair and makes my cell phone much more useful.

Just my 0.02

Alex -- No soup for you. Come back, one year!

Sorry, Limelight isn't still open. It closed about half a year ago.

[sigh .... kids ...]

the phrase "simply shocked" goes back to the movie Casablanca.

In the 1942 film classic, Casablanca, there is the villainous Nazi-Major Strohser who, shortly after entering Rick's Cafe and then having been mortified by a stirring rendition of "La Marseilles" led by his rival, Victor Lazlo, confronts Captain Renault the prefect of police and demands that he "close his cafe immediately!" To which renault replies, "But everyone is having such a good time, I have no excuse." To which Strohser snarls back, "FIND ONE!"

This, of course, leads Renault to order everyone out of Rick's Cafe and Renault's classic exchange with Humphrey Bogart when Rick demands to know on what grounds he is being shut down. Renault says, "I am shocked, simply shocked to hear of gambling going on in here!" while at the same time he is pocketing his winnings.

This phrase of "simply shocked" has since become more generalized to denote a cynical look at the facts of a situation, falsely claiming shock and surprise when in fact one knows or suspects otherwise, based on the inherent corruption of the scene.

I hear the movie is a decent film. You should see it some time.

How's your German?
http://www.serve.com/shea/germusa/jfkberl.htm

Another question is how do you keep the site marked, and perceived as dangerous, for 10K years? What message will last through whatever potential societal chaos/collapse/evolution is a'comin?

Anyway, it's bogus to assume that future civilizations are going to be more ignorant than we are. We can't avoid all possible dangers to the future citizens of the world. If civilization collapses and people are unable to read English or use Geiger counters, I think they have bigger problems than worrying about one dangerous site.

People lose their perspective when it comes to nuclear energy. Over 1,000 people a year die because of the relatively mild CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Efficiency) standards, yet we're supposed to worry about one reckless miner 10,000 years from now?

By the way, the 1,000 people per year is a conservative estimate, it is NOT auto-industry hype and it is NOT because large cars plow into small cars. The last time I mentioned this on slashdot, somebody ignorantly said it was and he was, of course, moderated up as insightful. Here's a good article from USA Today about this issue.

This reminds me of the the Architects Sketch by John Cleese and Graham Chapman from "Monty Python's Flying Circus", 20 October 1970 (script) where these architects are showing off their design for a rather unusual building... it starts off:

Mr. Wiggin: This is a 12-storey block combining classical neo-Georgian features with the efficiency of modern techniques. The tenants arrive here and are carried along the corridor on a conveyor belt in extreme comfort, past murals depicting Mediterranean scenes, towards the rotating knives. The last twenty feet of the corridor are heavily soundproofed. The blood pours down these chutes and the mangled flesh slurps into these....

People would assume from that article that Sadam could take a Gameboy, put the right cartridge in it and fly to the moon.


He could if was playing Lunar Lander on his Gameboy!!

Sorry I didn't make myself clear.

The phrase "Ich bin ein Berliner," was not incorrect. He used that phrase twice in the speach.

The Berliners where not laughing at him.

This is an urban legend to some degree and should be debunked when possible.

http://www.serve.com/shea/germusa/jfkbe rl.htm

I am a moron
You after reading this following link about what he really said.

http://www.serve.com/shea/germusa/jfkbe rl.htm

The real quote:
...All free men, wherever they may live, are citizens of Berlin, and, therefore, as a free man, I take pride in the words "Ich bin ein Berliner."
-John F. Kennedy

if Roblimo wasn't a shill for the military industrial complex he would have told you how the World Government is using Tesla (and UFOs!!!) to create the NWO. Get rid of the VA Linux shills! Get rid of Roblimo!

Regarding the letter to the Family Research Council--I honestly wish you the best of luck there.

I also think you will probably have better luck having an in-depth conversation on the merits of Red Hat versus Slackware with the walls of your home than convince the Family Research Council of the fact the software is flawed and even blocks partisan material.

This is largely because the Family Research Council would consider this a feature and not a bug. :P

For those who aren't aware--the Family Research Council is, essentially, the lobbying arm of a group called Focus on the Family. FoF is probably the largest Religious Reich organisation in the US now (yes, even bigger than the Christian Coalition) and basically split off Family Research Council some years back in order to preserve their tax-exempt status. (As an aside, often state FoF branches will operate under different names to hide their affiliation with FoF.)

To be perfectly blunt, FoF and its affiliates have an agenda--to basically get as many raving fundamentalists in office as possible and to get the fundamentalist vote out, in hopes of getting enough people in office to essentially turn the United States into a fundamentalist theocracy. If you want to get a good idea about the "face" politics they support, just look at the political platform of (recently dropped out) presidential candidate Gary Bauer--this is the guy who founded Family Research Council when it was split off of FoF.

To these folks, pushing censorware is just another way of them "saving" us--whether or not we particularly want to be "saved" or not--and making the US into a "nice Christian nation again". (Many of these folks, by the way, also subscribe to "Christian Reconstructionism"--that is, the canard that the Founding Fathers actually meant the US to be a theocracy.) This is also why they tend to run "stealth" candidates (candidates who do not reveal their links to Religious Reich groups until elected) specifically to things like school boards--they want to get them young so they can indoctrinate them young, because they know that if they're gotten young they likely won't walk away. (This is also why they push homeschooling a lot, by the way, as well as vouchers for private schools--it's been the actual stated goal of many Religious Reich groups to get the school system totally dismantled so that kids are forced to go to sectarian schools.)

FoF's president, Bob Dobson, also makes a rather lucrative career selling books on "disciplining your kids"--usually involving a mix of censorship, forcing God down their throats, and liberal amounts of spanking the kids (part of the reason corporal punishment is NOT illegal in the US--or, for that matter, why the US is the only nation besides Somalia which has still not ratified the Convention on the Rights of the Child--is because fundamentalist groups like FRC lobby heavily against such laws, claiming that it'll take away their right to "spare the rod and spoil the child" or to "raise their kids as they see fit". In some cases where it has crossed the line into child abuse, some fundies have even argued in court that the state prohibiting them from beating the living hell out of their kids is a violation of their First Amendment rights to religion and that beating the hell out of their kids is actually a duty of their religion).

I happen to be a walkaway from what may be described as a "bible-based cult", and I can say that a fair percentage of the harder-core membership of many (if not most) Religious Reich groups in the US happen to be from churches that use coercive tactics on their membership. In other words, the ones who are doing the lobbying are more than likely brainwashed, they have probably already mentally defined anyone who isn't on their side and who dares to tell them about "flaws" in the software is directly in league with Satan (most Religious Reich groups, and most bible-based cults, DO have a very "us-versus-them" attitude--many Bible-based cults even go to the point of "deliverance ministry" (even your doubts are caused by demons, and the only cure is to "pray them out" or get an exorcism...rather like some of the nastier mind-control techniques in Scientology, actually)...). It is going to take a considerably larger clue-by-four than that to make them change their minds.

The FRC has a rather long record of lobbying not just for censorship, but for the entire Religious Reich platform. On occasion, this has even gone to slandering folks who speak against them...don't be surprised if you find possibly much of the town turned against you (I've read in previous reports that the town in general is quite conservative and beholden to the Religious Reich).

Some links so that the curious may learn more (and educate themselves thereby):

Religious Reich Database F section--also info on FoF

Extended coverage of FRC from above site

ACLU's open letter to FRC

People for the American Way speaks out against FRC campaign against hate-crimes laws that would protect gay/les/bi/trans folks

PFAW's "Who's Who on the Religious Right"--FRC section

here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and even here very recently, you can see what the FRC and the rest of the Religious Reich have to say to their own members

QRD's info on FRC--this also has a lot of quotes of the FRC in their own words to their supporters

Info on the FRC from the Matthew Shephard website--more FRC "in their own words" and at their worst

EFF's "Know Your Enemies--includes info on FRC

Walk Away--a good resource not only for those walking away from "bible-based cults" but also gives you a glimpse of the mindset these groups have--important in debating them. (The head of Institute for First Amendment Studies is himself a walkaway from a bible-based cult.)

And since I don't want to just talk about them without providing some way to fight the Religious Reich (otherwise I wouldn't have posted the damn warning about the FRC's agenda ;):

Arguing Against Faith--basically, how to debate fundies

A whole big mess of resources on how to fight the Religious Reich

Another mess of good links

and still another mess of good links

Skipp Porteous (walkaway and head of IFAS) writes on how to win against the Religious Reich

A really good expose of the Religious Reich, including info on the "code words" they use with their members

Defending Yourself Against The Religious Right

11 Things You Can Do To Fight The Religious Right--this is good for regular folks too. (As an aside--Domino's is no longer owned by fundies, but Coors Brewery is)

Major groups fighting the right wing:

EFF (as if you didn't need any more reasons to send that donation in ;)--they fight censorware initiatives)

Peacefire--the source for info on censorware, including how most censorware has just a wee bit of a fundamentalist agenda

Institute for First Amendment Studies--highly recommended. Includes info on the Coalition for National Policy (basically the "think-tank" of the Religious Reich) including membership lists. Head of group is walkaway from a fundamentalist "Bible-based cult".

People for the American Way. Highly recommended is their "Right Wing Watch Online" section.

ACLU

Americans United for Separation of Church and State

The Interfaith Alliance--progressive religious groups united for tolerance

Rock Out Censorship--naturally concentrates on music censorship, but has really good info on other school-related issues, including filtering. (I'm a wee bit biased on this one, much as I am with IFAS--I have done volunteer work for ROC before. They're a damned good group, though.)

In any case, I wish y'all the best of luck in fighting them...I'm not sure you realised just what the hell you were getting into, but if there's anything we can do to help here on Slashdot, let us know.

Very interesting since Bob Lazar (the guy who says he worked for Area 51 and launched all those legends) contends that the craft he worked on was propelled by Element-115. He says it has weird gravity properties.

http://www.serve.com/mahood/lazar/115.htm