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http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_5843.html

H.R. 5843 is described as an "Act to Remove Federal Penalties for Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults". The bill has been introduced by US Congressman Barney Frank (D-MA) and co-sponsored by US Presidential candidate Ron Paul (R-TX). If passed, this legislation would legalize the possession, use and non-for-profit of up to 100 grams (3.5 ounces) of Marijuana. Under this legislation, adults who consume Marijuana would no longer face arrest, prison or civil fines.

  This bill will not affect federal laws prohibiting the sale of Marijuana for profit, nor the import, export and cultivation of Marijuana. It will also not alter the legal status of Marijuana as a Schedule 1 drug according to the Controlled Substances Act.
It seems that on 4/17/08 the act was referred to House committee as well as the Committee on Energy and Commerce, we will keep a close watch on this one. We'd have a kinder, gentler America with legalized Marijuana, as well as a cash surplus from taxing it.

  "Not only should it be legalized, it should be mandatory." -Bill Hicks

http://smokedot.org/08/04/25/act-to-remove-federal-penalties-for-personal-use-of-marijuana

Perhaps someone could submit this as a Slashdot story? I'm too sober to do it because I just know the fucking anti-marijuana dipshits will vote this down and vote some spam article or worthless shit like "advice for math geek party" shit in..

http://smokedot.org/

I think you need http://www.smokedot.org/

How about smokedot. Just reading some of the posts on there made me realize /.'ers are higly informed and motivated people in comparison. To think i was losing hope that /. was a place for some informed opinion!

First, if you grow your own, then it's not wasting money (grow outdoor if you can't buy lights, hell grow outdoor if you can).

Second, I've always wanted to start a 'planned growing environment control software' project. I.E. a a suit of programs for controling water, light, humidity and other things when growing plants. Ideally this program could run for the whole life cycle of plant (or until havest). The main reason would be to write high yield programs for certain (many?) types of crops. Things like shortening the "day" light cycle to trick the plant into flowering early, then increasing the day light cycle to maximize crop yield. Could even shorten the crop/havest cycles.

Just a thought. Maybe the natural way is better thou...

peace.... ;-)

5-MeO-DiPT (Foxy) - Similar to LSD with some of the "rolling" effects of MDMA (ecstacy)

2C-I - A trippy phenethylamine

5-MeO-AMT - Very potent tryptamine

2C-T-2 - Very powerful hallucinogen
What makes these "new" drugs so interesting is that many have not yet been scheduled by the DEA. Although a few on the list above were recently added to Schedule 1 by an emergency scheduling process. Unscheduled drugs are simply chemicals that can be legally possessed and sold and therefore are done so over the internet. A lot of modern "drug dealers" buy these chemicals cheap on the internet and sell them in their locality. A couple popular distributors are:

Rac:Research

LTK Research Products

Omega Fine Chemicals
Just to give you guys an idea of what kids are up to these days

- Cary
FAIRFAX UNDERGROUND where fairfax county comes out to play

pipedot.org -> isnt that site already taken ? ooops, no it's smokedot.org now all we need is bongdot.org and were done!

You're right--look to see what the people who brought you the news have to gain by your getting that particular news. The same idea extends to /., which has been a social networking site from the beginning, and is trying to push the whole social networking concept. What people don't get is that while the social networking makes /. much better at what it does--the friend/fans/foes/freaks system makes it that much more fun for those of us who participate in it--it's not something to base a site on to begin with. Social networking sites require a certain critical mass to become interesting, and at the moment, there aren't enough people interesting in engaging in this sort of activity online to achieve that critical mass solely by attracting people to the social networking aspect of a site. If, like /., a site has something to it that tends to get it a lot of repeat visitors anyway, and if it allows repeat visitors to interact and build reputations, then a social networking scheme is a natural add-on so that people can declare their associations with others, thereby risking their own reputations to add to that of someone else.

This is why--and I've said this before--Orkut and similar sites won't take off until they can interface with /. and similar sites, and have a standard API for Web programmers wanting to make online communities that are tied to the social network. If there were a single other reputation-based site that I used as much as /., I would pay for a way to combine my reputations from the two sites into one, and have one interface between the two for keeping track of friends and so on. (As a broke college student I pay for virtually nothing online, so that's a rather emphatic way of saying I'd like such a site.) Even as someone who only uses one social networking site, a site allowing me to bring together different online personalities in one place would encourage me to participate more in a site like ~. (pronounced "smoke-dot", in case you're too lazy to mouse over the link--for those who don't know, it's a site that was originally based on /code and is sort of "news for stoners, stuff that doesn't matter as much as we'd like it to")--it's not that interesting to post there in comparison to /., but if I were surfing it and saw a post by someone I'd marked as a friend on /., I might be a bit more interested. Multiply by thousands, and ~. might actually become interesting again.

Of course, right now the only viable candidate for the aforementioned standard API would be /code, which is horribly bloated already (so I hear--I don't read Perl) and therefore may not be the best candidate for adding lots of fun new features.

#11: Rolling Papers
Despite innovations in pipes (such as the famous Protopipe) and bongs (such as the infamous Triple Chamber Mason jar bong), people continue to use rolling papers for their smoking enjoyment. Zig-Zag papers continue to be a popular choice, with others using everything from toilet paper to yellow pages. Small wonder: joints are fun, and that's not going to change for a long time.

BTW, in "researching" for this post, I found a site called "Smokedot" very similar to Slashdot. I wonder if there is a "Smokedot effect" too and what that would entail...

Decriminalization of puffing the magic dragon is a completely different issue that would be better brought up on Smokedot than on Slashdot.

Oh, I get it. It appears you meant "Puff the Magic Dragon". That's this story.

You may want to try here.

A post titled what happens now? about a pot bust.

I think you're on the wrong site. Try here.

It turns heads in Christiania because it is the only bike that doubles as a hash pipe.

No, you're thinking of Smokedot.

Another slash site told me all I need to know

Here are some other important domains, these ones as of yet unclaimed.

hashdot.org or stashdot.org -- you too can compete with smokedot.org.

splashdot.org -- water cooling for OCers

crashdot.org -- Slashdot too Linux-centric for you? Build a Windows site!

trashdot.org -- for people who like building systems from parts other people are throwing out

lashdot.org -- Slashdot's potential future sister S&M site

mashdot.org

ashdot.org

flashdot.org

sashdot.org

dashdot.org -- for Morse code/ham radio fans?

clashdot.org

backlashdot.org

cashdot.org -- jobs for nerds, stuff that matters?

smashdot.org

But you can slow down your mind, by smoking weed.
See smokedot.org for instructions.
Just don't plan on doing anything productive for a couple of days.

SEC. 1503. CLARIFICATION OF SUNSET PROVISION IN USA PATRIOT ACT. Section 224(a) of the USA PATRIOT ACT (Public Law 107-56) is amended by inserting before the period the following: ''and any provision of law amended or modified by this title and the amendments made by this title (except for the sections excepted) shall take effect January 1, 2006, as in effect on the day before the effective date of this Act''.

Now... I suspect that says something like the PATRIOT act isn't going to expire like it was supposed to. And will someone please tell me what the fuck AMBER stands for?

Cheers, Joshua

~. anyone? http://smokedot.org/

Mr D is photographed by the ATM, so "they" already have a face for the name. Mr D is seen on the shop's CCTV. Mr D makes a phone call, and is recorded on the town's CCTV, which is cross-referenced with the phone signal data: Newly activated phone, in the vicinity of camera X, bla blah...

You can work out the rest. It won't be long before a few high profile prosecutions of society's Monsters Of The Month are put down to the essential evedence gathered by the phone tracking, and the public will just accept it. Just look how they are 0wn1ng kids nowadays, taking their privacy before they learn it's principle, value and meaning. [yes, its a toker's site but the story is about tobacco]

Things are getting out of hand! That phrase is often an exaggeration, but look around you, not anymore. If you can't do anything about something, it's out of hand.

Ali

...if you are, maybe you should be posting this over here

Yeah, just ask all those marijuana users and... what, it's still illegal? Sheeee-it. (throws bong out window, runs for Visine, replaces Grateful Dead record with Pat Boone)

Slashdot? You mean this isnt...? Okay, ob-on-topic: Kudos to RMS for at least doing *something*, even if it wasn't much. Sometimes when the powers that be refuse to listen, you gotta shout a little louder.

ever seen smokedot?

If everyone is expected to know all the laws and what they mean, then why are there so many lawyers? Our law systems are so confusing and complex that we have to hire special people to interpret and find laws that will help defend us and prosecute others.

This is where things start getting weird.

I noted in another post that "ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it" is a basic tenet of Western law. I'm not aware of any country that lets someone off for claiming "I didn't know that was illegal," otherwise everyone and their mother would use it. You're correct, however, in noting that our legal systems and codes have become so convoluted that it is nearly impossible to know what is illegal without hiring (or being) a trained lawyer. I find this slightly ironic, because I said pretty much the same thing to a fellow potsmoker considering a lone crusade in court.

Every time I think about stuff like this, I understand a little more why I espouse the political ideals I currently do...

If everyone is expected to know all the laws and what they mean, then why are there so many lawyers? Our law systems are so confusing and complex that we have to hire special people to interpret and find laws that will help defend us and prosecute others.

This is where things start getting weird.

I noted in another post that "ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it" is a basic tenet of Western law. I'm not aware of any country that lets someone off for claiming "I didn't know that was illegal," otherwise everyone and their mother would use it. You're correct, however, in noting that our legal systems and codes have become so convoluted that it is nearly impossible to know what is illegal without hiring (or being) a trained lawyer. I find this slightly ironic, because I said pretty much the same thing to a fellow potsmoker considering a lone crusade in court.

Every time I think about stuff like this, I understand a little more why I espouse the political ideals I currently do...

A sorta-relevant example - Scoop, a Slashlike blogging tool which normally uses tables, can be used to make very nice CSS pages. The same thing could be done to Slash, except it would probably break NS4 compatibility.

It is the Seven-Eleven of the Philly area. Seedy little places on every corner (I used to buy smokes at the one in Narberth) which seem to stock every known type of human or otherwise grub at inflated prices. Aimed primarily at the Smokedot crowd and skater kids who rip off parking meters.

And one of my favorite site just came back online after being shut down for months.

One has to wonder how many innocent people are taken from their homes, or all their property confiscated, or even worse: executed.

How's this for a start?

Someday we may see people trying to escape the US as those did in the day of the communist eastern bloc countries...

The exodus has already begun.

I have a suggestion for everyone who doesnt like the /. moderation system (which seems to be a large percentage of the userbase), its the topic of this post in fact. Leave. I did it years ago (late 99 IIRC) and apart from the odd time I've followed a link back here (always going "yup, its just as shit as it used to be") I've never looked back. The moderation system isnt going to change. If Rob & co actually gave a flying fuck they would have done something years ago. All this shit over their moderation system is probably helping them no end. Everytime you post, mod, complain or whatever your generating more page hits, more ad views and putting extra load on their servers. They (or at least OSDN who does the /. ads) can then go to advertisers and go "look how popular this site is!!". They are probably scared that if they actually bothered to fix the moderation system and make all you guys happy then those stats would drop which would be detrimental. Either that or the "editorial" crew gets off on seeing all you lot whine so much.

Anyway, everyone please leave. All you crapflooders, FP'ers, penis bird copycats and all the other subcultures that have evolved here, just leave. This site is a wasteland, its been a wasteland for years now. Back when it had just started (before they had user accounts, I remember the controversy when they appeared) it was kinda fun and once in a while you actually saw something accurate, but now its just shit. So everyone leave en masse. You'll feel much better about it after a couple of weeks or so, I promise.

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Nick
Time for another smoke methinks...

A little marijuana goes a long way :-)

http://www.smokedot.org

(But remember, drugs are bad! bad!)

Right, what they said...

Is this poopy news slashdot worthy?

maybe smokedot worthy!

The lethal dose of THC is equvilent to a quarter-ton of high-grade Marijuana smoked in 15 minutes. This of course would be impossible, because you would die of smoke inhalation first. (Quick, lets outlaw fire.) Another fact the Gubmint doesn't want you to know. I do however wish I could remember the URL to back up my words.

Smokedot.org always has a lot of useful information like this. And it's running slashcode. :)

Forget 5. Campaign to have Marijuana legalized instead!

Please consider reading my article posted at Smokedot.org:

Day 2 - Suspension of Rights Begins

I guess I'll take this opportunity to link to this entry in my Smokedot diary. I encourage webmasters to read it, because I'd like some assistance.

The short version: if you're a webmaster, and have pages on your site related to digital copyright issues - especially Sklyarov's case - check your logs for hits from the 198.25.0.0 - 198.26.255.255 netblock, which is controlled by NIPR (DoD Network Operations - a quick whois of 198.25.0.0@whois.arin.net will confirm this) containing a user agent of "Inktomi Search". A pair of machines at Kelly AFB in Texas with that user-agent have been the source of regular hits to my page on Sklyarov, about once a day. The hits are regular and targeted enough to convince me it's not a case of kiddiez spoofing, and I've had at least one report of very similar behaviour toward another site; targeted hits from a couple DoD boxen using a web spider. I'm doing some light investigation of the activity, and would be very interested in any logs documenting this type of behaviour.

If nothing else, I'd love to know why DoD machines are being used to search for copyright-related pages.

Side-note: some of the information I've gathered on NIPR implies that the group has constructed a firewall around the DoD workstations and servers; hence, any hits from NIPR.mil addresses may be the firewall/border routers and not the actual boxes performing the searches. However, at some point, DoD boxes are involved, and I'd like to know just what they're up to.

[soapbox]

I also wanted to take this opportunity to tell you that I am using the internet in this way. It's young and not all that active yet, but I'm running a slash site called terradot , with a slogan of growing awareness, and it's got a very broad topic range. Please check it out. Also, there are many other good sites that are attempting to take back the power of propoganda and distribute it a little more evenly, instead of the wealthy having it all and the middle and lower classes having none. The internet has this potential, and all we need to do now is make it happen. As soon as I started reading /. I felt like I was connected to the geek community - in the know - and when something important happened, I knew about it. You don't find all the important stuff on CNN. Some other sites are the Independent Media Center, Common Dreams and Smokedot. Obviously there are many more. Check it out, once again, check out terradot. ;)

[/soapbox]

cheers, ouroboros
http://terradot.org

Dude, they made one of God's own creations illegal. A protocol is nothing for these people.

The broader the subject matter, the less compelling the appeal to a broader base of people. The narrower the subject matter, the stronger the potential appeal to a smaller base of people.

It's a nice idea, and one you hear a lot online, but look at all the Slash sites out there now. (Or even at one list of them.) Most of the really narrow ones don't have any commentary, just the owner-posted stories.

Smokedot. Jazz-Sax.com. Go Hogs. All very narrowcast with no serious comment traffic. (Gohogs is a college sports site. Come on, we know sports fans like to argue. Why aren't they posting?) Plastic is currently one of the busiest Slash sites outside of Slashdot. Sucess is so much more than site focus. It's attracting users (Slashdot had word-of-mouth back in the Web's word-of-mouth days. Plastic had advertising on its partner sites). It's picking stories that inspire the users to post (and getting enough of them). It's keeping the server up from day to day (a lot of the small narrowcast sites on the Slashcode.com keep falling down). And probably most importantly, it's striking the balance between broad and narrow.

Slashdot is actually pretty broad when compared to the less-sucessful sites: tech discussions, political discussions, entertainment reviews, etc, etc. Different people here probably have different favorite topics, but signing up for Slashdot puts them in a position to comment about all the topics. Diverse sites attract more readers, and give them more opportunities to post. Super-narrow sites like Smokedot, while an nice example of free software encouraging free speech, aren't good for building user bases.

(None of this is to say that niche services on the web are bad. I like niche services. I have a bunch of niche pages on my web server (like pages devoted to specific, out-of-print roleplaying games), but not discussion sites, because I know those subjects are going to generate the requisite repeat traffic. I settle for the occasional "Hey, I like your page" e-mail, and get on with my life.)

I could probably draw some sort of parallel with Usenet: Some really narrow-focused newsgroups succeed, some of them never get off the ground. But I've rambled on too long already.

Instead of the foil, get mylar, or just flat white paint. Instead of the big fluorescents, get high-output security lights like high pressure sodium or metal halides. Try to make it about 50 watts per square foot. By the way Attorney General Ashcroft supports legislation to make it illegal for us to discuss this. Get seeds from companies listed here. Ask your questions here. Discuss related issues here. I wouldn't post any of this if it weren't for Ashcroft, but I'm fed up. Overgrow the government! Why is it illegal to own a plant?

The difference probably lies in the quantity of mind-altering substances involved.

Kuro5hin.org, another fine community site, has a completely different tone. Ditto for smokedot.org, metamuscle.org, and countless other sites based on the same model.

The fact that Plastic has survived out of the group of three reinforces the strength of the slash-like model.

With the price of publication at near zero dollars, is it any wonder why conventional sites aren't working? The dot-bomb era has reduced commercial interest in web sites that rely on intellectual property for revenue. The pendulum has swung the other way, back towards a volunteer-run website model. The truth of the matter is that intellectual property is essentially free to distribute, but very expensive to produce.

One problem remains: What are Plastic, Slashdot and others going to link to once quality content producers such as Feed, Suck, and Salon dry up and become scarce?

[additional shameless self-promotion follows in .sig]

OK, so who can't wait to get the IP address of one of these suckers.

Maybe get the IP address of the one across the road from you and periodicaly flash pro-cannabis information up on the screen. ;-)

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ok, i realize this isn't smokedot, but i'm stoned and those mars images are really flipping me out, man

I've been running Slashcode on Smokedot for the last year, and I haven't exactly had the best experiences with it. First of all, it's running on a shared, freely hosted server, and Slash consistently uses too much RAM and CPU. I did some informal (very informal) tests on my local network, and here's how that went.

I installed Slash, Scoop, and Dope on virtual hosts on the same httpd. Then I'd stop and start httpd to get a clean server. Then I'd run a script which would request a few thousand pages very quickly and watch the free RAM level - I'd restart apache between tests so Slash wouldn't mess with Scoop's results, etc...

The box I used for testing was a 600mhz Alpha with 512MB of RAM. The MySQL server was on a different box so it wouldn't skew the results.

At the beginning of each test there was approximately 300MB free on the box. The Dope test reduced free RAM to about 220MB, Scoop reduced it to about 180MB, and Slash reduced it to about 4MB free (and I'm guessing it would have kept going if there was more RAM for it to play with). This is unacceptable, especially when you consider that Scoop was significanly faster than Slash in my testing. Slash does cache information as .shtml files, which speeds things up (I did the testing against index.pl and article.pl, obviously). But this is an annoying workaround, as the information you see is not necessarily up-to-date with what's in the database.

Speedwise, Scoop was about 20% faster than Slash, while Dope was about right in the middle.

This was a test with version 1.0 of Slashcode, and I recently ran he same tests with a recent beta of Bender. I was shocked - not only was it more RAM-hungry than older versions, but it was slower as well! This may be all well and good for a site with tons of resources, like Slashdot, but for smaller sites it's just not a good idea.

Dope is a work in development, by the way, and it was supposed to replace Slashcode for Smokedot. But since I'm basically just reimplementing Scoop anyway, I'm considering just using Scoop instead and scrapping Dope (hurstdog keeps bugging me to work on Scoop instead).
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I've been running Slashcode on Smokedot for the last year, and I haven't exactly had the best experiences with it. First of all, it's running on a shared, freely hosted server, and Slash consistently uses too much RAM and CPU. I did some informal (very informal) tests on my local network, and here's how that went.

I installed Slash, Scoop, and Dope on virtual hosts on the same httpd. Then I'd stop and start httpd to get a clean server. Then I'd run a script which would request a few thousand pages very quickly and watch the free RAM level - I'd restart apache between tests so Slash wouldn't mess with Scoop's results, etc...

The box I used for testing was a 600mhz Alpha with 512MB of RAM. The MySQL server was on a different box so it wouldn't skew the results.

At the beginning of each test there was approximately 300MB free on the box. The Dope test reduced free RAM to about 220MB, Scoop reduced it to about 180MB, and Slash reduced it to about 4MB free (and I'm guessing it would have kept going if there was more RAM for it to play with). This is unacceptable, especially when you consider that Scoop was significanly faster than Slash in my testing. Slash does cache information as .shtml files, which speeds things up (I did the testing against index.pl and article.pl, obviously). But this is an annoying workaround, as the information you see is not necessarily up-to-date with what's in the database.

Speedwise, Scoop was about 20% faster than Slash, while Dope was about right in the middle.

This was a test with version 1.0 of Slashcode, and I recently ran he same tests with a recent beta of Bender. I was shocked - not only was it more RAM-hungry than older versions, but it was slower as well! This may be all well and good for a site with tons of resources, like Slashdot, but for smaller sites it's just not a good idea.

Dope is a work in development, by the way, and it was supposed to replace Slashcode for Smokedot. But since I'm basically just reimplementing Scoop anyway, I'm considering just using Scoop instead and scrapping Dope (hurstdog keeps bugging me to work on Scoop instead).
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I personally feel that the internet is changing to much for the worse. alot of interesting things have made it better, but places like ICANN seem to just rule the web... im in favor of first come first serve. if you can think of a domain that isnt taken, then you should be able to get it, otherwise, somebody got to it first...

-net free forums for your website
a great Slash based site.

I) We've already experimented with prohibition and it not only didn't work, it made the problem worse.

• A) By legalizing all drugs currently illegal (under the banner of regulation), you undercut the profit motive we all learn about in economics 101.

  • 1) Criminal activity supported by drug money that rivals that of the Pentagon vanishes and crime rates drop.

    2) Serious addicts no longer have to resort to petty theft as their drug of choice falls in price to equal current legal drugs like cigarettes and alcohol.

    3) All the money formally funneled through the black market is now legitimized and taxable, increasing government coffers.

    4) Money is no longer wasted on arresting people for victemless crimes, thereby saving taxpayers money.

    5) Half the US prison population is released, increasing economic activity and saving money.

  B) Making consensual acts illegal goes against the very root of why this country was founded. Drug war is unconstitutional:

  • 2) "It behoves every man who values liberty of conscience for himself, to resist invasions of it in the case of others: or their case may, by change of circumstances, become his own." - Thomas Jefferson

    3) "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" -Declaration of Independence

    4) "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" -First Amendment, US Constitution

    5) "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized" -Fourth Amendment, US Constitution

    6) "...nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." -Fifth Amendment, US Constitution

II) Drug War is racially biased against minorities

• A) Prison population is heavily weighted against minorities.

  B) Minorities are unjustly singled out by law enforcement for searches.

III) Treating addiction as a crime instead of a disease only makes the problem worse.

• A) Prisons do not treat addiction, they simply warehouse a person for a few years.

  B) Scarce resources are put towards treatment

  C) Analogy: we don't lock people up who cut themselves because they have a psychological problem.

IV) Medical and Environmental benefits of illegal drugs is wasted.

• A) Marijuana has great medicinal uses for victems of glaucoma, aids, etc.

  B) Cannabis would drastically cut down the number of trees felled.

Really good implimentation of SlashCode, and really good stories about the drug war at SmokeDot