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Re:Never own anything, rent everything
After all these decades there's still no viable FOSS business model that has produced any decent gaming systems or games.
You might see two kinds of replies:
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Re:eh no
They can do it because you have nowhere else to bugger off to.
Yeah, Voat and SoylentNews never really panned out, did they?
This is about cultural change.
This. The Great Firewall of China does not have egress filters. Western culture can not come in, but Eastern culture has no problems getting out and making footholds into significant channels of communication.
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Re:Back to the original question
At least the competition is covering Apples decline.
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Re: All ads are none compliant
Sans ads and the marketing behind
/. It would probably cost $40US a month to run.It's more than that. SoylentNews is a news aggregator site with a similar concept (and codebase) to Slashdot. Its statement of finances for the first and second quarters of 2017 shows $270 per month for the server and backups and a hefty chunk of change for tax payments and tax compliance costs.
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Re:"Block"
Are you sure that is implemented just by DNS blocking and not also blackholed (nuking all sites sharing the same ip)?
This is the case for all sites I've found my isp blocked following court orders, disregarding collateral damage to bystanders.I already said this before, that some of you may find useful.
When I first found some of my usual web sites blackholed realized that the isp dns where also changed to localhost.
So the easy fix for me was to use my TOR proxy and a Proxy Auto-Configuration [wikipedia.org] proxy.pac file for the browser to automatically and transparently redirect all sites with a tampered dns thru TOR.
A side effect is that usually I'm late to realize that some site has been blackholed because it never stopped working.function FindProxyForURL(url, host)
{
var proxy_tor = "SOCKS5 127.0.0.1:9050"; // TOR proxy
var onion_url = "[a-zA-Z0-9]{16}.onion*";
if (shExpMatch(url, "*tp://" + onion_url) || shExpMatch(url, "*tps://" + onion_url)) {
alert("TOR to connect:\nproxy_tor=" + proxy_tor + "\nhost=" + host);
return proxy_tor;
}
var dns_host = dnsResolve(host);
if (!isResolvable(host) || isInNet(dns_host, "127.0.0.0", "255.255.255.0")) {
alert("Not resolvable host: " + dns_host + " TOR to connect to: " + url);
return proxy_tor;
}
return "DIRECT";
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Re:Fatboy Slim knows the solution
Hmmm... I see you've been lurking around...
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More
The point of working on something for free is the work
Not always. The reasons I write free software are, in order:
o So I have the exact feature set I want
o So I have control, which means an insightful ability to fix and enhance
o So that when a bug is found, I can fix it immediately.
o So companies that "upgrade" their apps into a non-working state with my OS can go suck eggs
o So that my OS vendor, who upgrades the OS into a non-working state with apps, can go suck eggs
o And the very last thing is, to share the results. Perfectly willing to do that.It's not to earn money. I know better. The world isn't going to beat path to my door. The only way to make money with free software is to offer "support", which really means what you wrote is some combination of unreliable, poorly documented, feature-incomplete, or self- or OS-obsoleted. No thank you. I want my stuff to work, and I want it to be intuitive, and I want it to be well documented.
--fyngyrz*
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Re: Can't trust Facebook anymore
No, it just proves how outdated the slashcode is and how behind the curve the maintainers of the slashcode are. UTF-8 isn't all that difficult for real developers. You're just an example of having cast Perl before swine.
If you wanted to actually be informed about the matter, you could visit SoylentNews, where they've fixed the slashcode and made the fixes available open source, so slashdot could fix everything here — including its UTF-8 problems — with very little effort. If they cared about the site, which by all the evidence, they don't.
Or, you know, you could just continue spewing mindless, uninformed vitriol.
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Re:FFS Editors !!
I'm so fucking done with Slashdot...
Lets start a new open source version, that doesn't compromise and doesn't sell out...
Would it look anything like SoylentNews? Some people had the same idea as you during the "Buck Feta" era.
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Re:They tried.
https://soylentnews.org/ an interesting fork of the old slashcode with some weird users.
Interesting changes include Unicode support, more ways to moderate including the disagree and touche mods that don't affect the score or karma. Being able to mod in discussions that you've commented in, with some exceptions, so you can mod someone and then tell them why and I'm sure some other interesting changes. -
Re:John Oliver just did an interesting piece
Not true. You can find plenty of critical information in China. Ironically, anyone in China can read YOUR POST since Slashdot is not censored.
Which is strange, because https://soylentnews.org/ is.
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Re:Geniuses. The people who funded it, however
Next to
/., I go to Soylent News as well. And I do sort of share your sentiment. I thought the comments were better 15 years ago.Recently I read a
/. artice from 2002, along with the comments. The signal-to-noise ratio was about the same as now.The fun with
/. however, is that every now and then the 'signal' part of the ratio is off the charts and very interesting. It keeps me going through lots of +5 moderated posts that are actually not that interesting. -
A question
The thing is we need to let companies keep stuff you put there--Facebook needs to keep your Facebook posts and photos and whatnot forever if you want them to be there when you scroll back 10 years;
Do we?
I have all my photos back to about the 1970's. I have all my electronic correspondence right back to my 6809 days in the late 1970's. I have all the music I've bought. I have all the movies I've bought. I have them. Not Facebook.
My sharing with my family and friends is not, and never has been, through Facebook. We're all fine with that.
Perhaps what we need are some hardware and applications that manage this for less capable users. Without having to hand out everything about yourself to a 3rd party who isn't anyone you care about. It's certainly much easier to do now than when I started. And it seems to me that this whole mess would be considerably less of a mess if the only people you were handing your stuff out to were people you actually trusted. Trust shifts over time, so it's not perfect (and oh man could I tell some stories about trust shifting), but I maintain that it's better than trusting companies who never had your best interests at least somewhat in mind.
At this point, there are various solutions such as ROCKET.CHAT that let you set up your own server, and viola, you can chat, DM, share media, etc. securely and without ads and invasive third parties. ROCKET.CHAT requires a recent OS, a web sever and a generally known, at least somewhat stable IP. Surely we can step it up from there. P2P solutions have been around for a while, some of them working without intervening servers despite the whole DHCP system making hosting such services ore difficult to manage.
Now that we're moving into an era of more than 4-byte IP addresses, perhaps we can make this sort of thing work better by abandoning DHCP for anything but mobile hardware. Perhaps even there — they could certainly afford to assign a single IP per device at this point, which would work in your home area, and perhaps wider if something moderately clever about porting IP addresses around were done. After all, the system can find your phone anywhere already. Doesn't seem like a huge stretch to tie DNS of an IP to that.
Anyway, it's not like this mess isn't insoluble. The issue is, and has been for some time, that not enough people care about it. Or perhaps the wrong people care about it.
--fyngyrz*
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Too simplistic
If Facebook lost a million users a month from now on, it would only take 200 fucking years to empty the customer pool.
The useful point isn't when the product pool is empty; it's when the product pool isn't profitable.
Facebook has a large, expensive infrastructure. If it gets to the point where it can't support that, change of some kind will come. I strongly suspect that how they approach data collection will get worse before it gets better under that kind of pressure. I base that assumption upon their already-demonstrated willingness to behave extremely badly.
--fyngyrz*
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Android, Apple, phones, smartwatches
No, I am afraid that the people you call 'fandroids' are just The Rest Of Us not buying something overpriced just because it's Apple branded.
I bought my new near-$1000 Galaxy S9+ pocket computer (pC) plus sensors because it's bloody awesome in terms of what it does as compared to what it costs. It's also capable of performing the role of a phone, but I almost never use my pocket computer as a phone, so I can't tell you too much about that.
Same thing for my smartwatch. I bought it not because it tells time - which it certainly does - but because...
Convenience of information: a smartwatch serves as a time and motion saver. Mostly pC is in pocket, stays in pocket, watch talks to pC so I don't have to.
All day:
Email? Smartwatch buzzes, roll wrist over, ah, it's that shill wanting donations for [FITB] party again, swipe it off, it's deleted. Or tap it to read it right on the watch (entirely practical in many cases) if it's of interest, or, drag out pC, or, open/switch to email client at desktop. Slack post? Ignore, it's just the intern asking another question about WhatCollegeForgotToTeach, let LowPukeOnTotemPole deal. Text? Kid wants their allowance early. Hold on face, say "NO!", let go. Oh, hey, look, a chess move! Pull out pC, deal, put away, on with life. Weather? Time? Other things? (depending on face) Roll wrist, observe CoolFaceOfTheDay.
End of day:
X steps, Y stairs, Z calories.
Beginning of day:
Sleep stats.
Available info:
Depending on the face: immediate availability of time, day, date, battery states (pC and watch), multiple time zones, image thumbnails, tiny little videos, sunup/sundown, weather, exercise state from heart rate to blood oxy (depending on watch), moon phase, GPS location / altitude / map, phone audio controls, the usual run of stopwatches, timers, counters, reminders, agenda, compass, "find my pC", tiny flashlight, and basically every notification your pC chokes up that you allow through (you can set some to not show, thank goodness.)
Different faces put different items "up front", or not, so you can manage the watch by the task at hand, so to speak. Want to change the face? Tap and hold, pick from thumbnails, bang, there you have it.
That's all without adding any apps. Apps add pretty much whatever, you have to look at them to see what's available for a particular watch. Also, I'm speaking of my Samsung smartwatch. Apple probably offers different things. I pretty much despise Apple as a company these last few years, due to their idiocy WRT my Macs and my iPad and their OS(s), so I haven't even bothered to look at what they offer in smartwatches. Mea culpa = dunno.
Some of the watch faces are undeniably very cool / pretty / info-jammed, etc. So there's lots of eye candy. I have one that's basically nothing more than a mass of moving gears. It's truly drool-worthy to the eye, and provides nothing but the time (and that's not even that easy to read with all that gold-n-silver motion going on. But... yeah, very pretty.)
There's no question that these things, all of them, vary in value to individuals. But when the value of enough of them is high enough, that's when the watch has a point.
The downsides: At the moment, near as I can tell, that's exactly two things:
Price
Battery life (mine lasts about 48 hours. It gets charged every day at my desk, which works out okay for me.)
Finally, this kind of "is it for me" weighting goes on for almost everyone. No phone / simple flip phone / smartphone (pC); bike / little car / big pickup; little shortwave portable / mega-SDR; etc., etc., etc.
TL;DR: I am very happy with my smartwatch and my pC. And that's the point, for those who get all twitterpated about smartwatches and/or phones.
--fyngyrz*
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Re:Ironic?
Isn't fast-loading minimalist advertising kind of the center of Google's revenue stream?
No, it isn't.
Really? What is it then?
Google's ads are neither minimalist or fast - they are pig-slow and overweight, and have been since they abandoned responsible (text) advertising.
No question they are they center of their revenue; but fast / minimlist, oh good grief, no.
--fyngyrz*
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Re: Missed you 3
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Re:None
Orwell got so many things right in 1984, the only thing he really got wrong were the size of the screens...
--fyngyrz*
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Not so dumb
I also like a stereo image, and Apple's speakers promise that
We use an Echo Dot: nice minijack on the back, plugged it right into our theater system. Sounds very good, likewise images perfectly, etc.
If I want bass, I'll boost that on my EQ.
Those little Sonos / Alexa / etc. speakers don't offer much bass capacity - turning up an EQ won't help beyond their limits, which are very near and not very deep. A good system with significant woofage and/or subwoofage is the way to go if you actually want things to actually sound good.
Of course, the generation that grew up with earbuds may have an entirely different perception of what "good" means, which is to say... well, never mind.
--fyngyrz*
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Innovating
Cross-posting from SoylentNews: https://soylentnews.org/commen... Hope someone will take these ideas up.
Physical bookstores are not innovating enough to compete with Amazon and subsidiaries (Audible, The Book Depository, etc). I worry sometimes - I like wandering in secondhand bookshops, and don't like how few there are left. I speak to people working in bookstores and there's really nothing planned, except for spinning up a website.
That won't work.
Amazon started with books because books are the ultimate fungible commodity. Each has an ISBN (instantly identifiable), each is equivalent to the other (unlike, say, fruit), there's little scope for fakes or adulteration (unlike jewellery), and the price points are right for moving significant volumes at low-risk. Selling on the web also adds value: a book is freeze-dried information anyway, so it's a natural fit for meta-information like reviews and recommendations. Putting a massive catalog online does not cost much in inventory, but it taps into a long, fat tail of all sorts of interests -- from game developers, to philosophers, to philosophical game developers -- all willing to wait a few days after purchase (or a few seconds, if using Kindle).
Physical bookstores must compete in cyberspace. However, cloning Amazon's infrastructure is the wrong approach. Instead, they must blend physical and virtual presence, so customers still find value in a physical store.
One way to do this is by turning stores into a federated hybrid marketplace.
Imagine this:
I walk into a book store. There's a book and a DVD box set tucked under my arm -- I bought these weeks or months ago and want to get rid of them. I walk up to an automated kiosk (in a low-tech scenario, I go to the cashier). It's something that resembles a reverse vending machine. and I scan my items. This machine has me quickly flip pages in my book to check its condition. It also has me insert the DVDs into a reader slot. Then it robot-wraps the products (shrink wrap, or cardboard mailer) and slots them into inventory. I walk away with a few dollars instantly available in my account. I'll be credited more 'on consignment', when the items sell.
I turn into the main store and walk the aisles. A book interests me in the Business section. I start browsing. I whip out my mobile and an app recognises the book, providing recommendations and reviews. A 'What's Related' gallery pops up related books. These are from the bookseller's extended catalog and the catalog of other booksellers this bookseller federates with. Now a different book has caught my fancy. This seems to cover the topic better. It has better, more passionate reviews. And there's a really good deal on a second-hand copy somebody deposited five minutes ago on the other side of the continent. Satisfied, I place the order. There's a bit of automated-haggling as my app negotiates the price range set by the seller, and with stores on both side of the continent. A couple of seconds, and the transaction closes successfully. My preferences request delivery to this store. I come here on weekends anyway; I'll pick it up when I'm in next, sit down on the sofa and have a read.
The cashier gives me a friendly wave. He saw the transaction go through -- I've known him a few years and my browse/buy settings are open to him. He'll probably be handing me the parcel next week (if I'm in during business hours; otherwise, it'll be the vending dispenser). We chat a bit -- turns out he's interested in the same topic. As I chat, I notice a pencil loop [amazon.com]. That'd be great for the notebook I always carry around. I purchase it and affix it to my notebook.
It's been a good day. I quite enjoyed that.
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Re:Not Helping Further Public Health
FYI: I just came across an article on SoylentNews, that says NIH research is key to new drug development. It sounds like that is who you should petition to study Kratom.
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More on strike forms
From time to time, you'll also see ^W which means "delete previous word."
I meant to say that^W this.
On a site that supports more useful HTML than slashdot does such as SoylentNews, you can use the HTML tags <STRIKE> and </STRIKE> or <DEL> and </DEL> to display text with a strike-through line, which is the modern way to express the same idea.
Here is an example (at the bottom of the page.)
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More on strike forms
From time to time, you'll also see ^W which means "delete previous word."
I meant to say that^W this.
On a site that supports more useful HTML than slashdot does such as SoylentNews, you can use the HTML tags <STRIKE> and </STRIKE> or <DEL> and </DEL> to display text with a strike-through line, which is the modern way to express the same idea.
Here is an example (at the bottom of the page.)
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Not that much of a problem.
Yeah, that's pretty stupid. You MUST take off your watch to charge every night, which means you're walking around without a sensor for at least 3 hours...
Nah. My early-series Samsung smartwatch charges in just a few minutes, and I do it at my desk. It's only got a tiny little battery, doesn't take long to charge at all. Other than that, the watch runs all day, and all night.
Many benefits. Time (obviously.) Notifications (email, text, chess moves, etc.) without having to drag out and wake up the phone. Lots of watch faces to choose from at any time, all of which offer various interesting and useful combinations of features and looks. Weather. Moon phase (I do astrophotography, so I care.) Timers. Alarms. Step counting. Etc. All right there for me to see, no phone fiddling required. the watch does bluetooth and wifi, so it's pretty well connected when it needs to be. It can proxy basic phone functions, too.
The only thing I'd really like to see is longer battery life. But until / unless displays start consuming a lot less power, that's not a chip problem... that's a display problem.
--fyngyrz*
* Anon due to mod points, because Slashdot moderation rules are stupid. Soylent News does it better. A lot better.
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Worming a pitch in
(where are those sarcasm tags again?)
On Soylent News. Along with <strike> , <spoiler> , <sub> , <sup> , <abbr> , and some other really useful things that actually work. Also much more careful editing of TFS's, 10 mod points per day for everyone without forcing you to be anonymous if you want to comment, zero ads, and various useful amenities like handling characters beyond ASCII. The code's open, and you can contribute, too.
It works just like Slashdot, except, you know, it actually works.
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A temporary cap
Just a cap, for screwing over thousands of people?
A temporary cap.
--fyngyrz*
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Q&A from a previous time
I did a Q&A on this sequencer on SoylentNews a couple of years ago:
https://soylentnews.org/articl...
The technology has improved substantially since then. Feel free to ask me any more questions about the sequencing. Although I'm not an author on this paper, I'm fairly familiar with the sequencing project that was done, and am happy to answer any general questions you might have on this technology.
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That's not the only cat we have to worry about
Facebook is still subject to legislation.
Facebook is not all of (or even a significant part of) what we have to worry about. It's the AI hacker in their garage that will make and distribute these things. No one will be able to stop them. "Ethical Rules" are for the ethical, just like locks are for honest people and DRM only works for those who don't pirate media.
--fyngyrz*
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Nonsense
Parent post, emphasis mine:
A human brain cannot be isolated from the attached nervous system - nor from the rest of the body that is permeated and controlled by the nervous system.
People with severe spinal cord injuries demonstrate that above highlighted assertion is meaningless babble.
Also, you should probably read this, including the comments.
Archtech, 2018:
Computers only do "reason", which places a vast gulf between human intelligence and any kind of artificial replica.
Albert Einstein, 1932:
There is not the slightest indication that nuclear energy will ever be obtainable. It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at will.
--fyngyrz*
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There is no bag
Cat is out of the bag
This particular cat was never in the bag.
AI (well, ML/LDNLS, which is what the marketroids are passing off as AI these days) can be cooked up in anyone's garage, and duplicated en masse from there.
--fyngyrz*
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Re: Really?
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Because...
CPU design is complex, that's why. Getting everything right, all the time, or even getting the testing fully comprehensive... "hard" doesn't even begin to describe the problem. The word you'd be looking for is "impossible."
--fyngyrz *
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Re: That ain't right!
Come join us on https://soylentnews.org/
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Call me a cynic
Call me a cynic, but I think it likely that this is a ploy.
I think the Republicans set up Ajit's malfuckery on purpose, so that they could pass the awful tax bill, which is deservedly unpopular with anyone who is not rich or ignorant, and then "save the Internet", which will gain them considerable appreciation.
The people have very short memories. I think this is very likely to be an attempt to leverage those short memories. Ajit's actions and the consequent congressional actions are very likely components of a single plan.
--fyngyrz
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So what's the news, that Twitter apologised?
Twitter has been banning people for no reason and artificially limiting their reach for years.
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Re:Why is it on Slashdot?
That one is called Soylent News.
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Oracle v. Google is a Big Deal
Oracle has established that APIs are copyrightable - you are not allowed to reverse engineer them. The decision says the name of java.lang.Math.max is an artistic work, not a functional one, because someone making a competitor to Java could name the function something else. Arguments about compatibility were thrown out. An appeal was denied.
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Re:... and at least 6 years of right-wing politics
Fortunately, much of the alt-right on Slashdot fucked off to SoylentNews.
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Still a problem
A big part of
/. moderation is not the moderation system itself, but the abuse of the system by (let us call them) special interests. Long ago it was people with sock puppet accounts mostly using them to moderate their own posts. Those still exist today, but we also have groups punishing "wrong think" and up modding garbage. E.G. "Trump is a F*# wad!" gets modded informative, "Trump's policy on X may actually be good because.. reasoning" gets modded "Troll", and "Why is Trump's policy?" questions get modded Flamebait.Slashdot has never done a good job with this. I don't know if they can ban certain accounts from getting mod points, but the fact that obvious moderation problems are consistently ignored has caused many to leave the site (see Soylent News). Most of us post anonymously when we know it's a censorship issue, which will eventually cause us to leave also.
Public drivers always need controls, because the public is not some altruistic group always doing the right thing. The lack of control mixed with the shit moderation by sock puppet and special interest accounts has driven the dialogue and discussion portion of Slashdot down to kindergarten level on most topics.
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For a more rational discussion on the issue
Just go here. The Slashdot crowd is whack with their Russia conspiracy theories! The democrats lost because they suck.
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Re: Is that the soylentnews fork or the slashdot f
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PWNED: Tor Browser Bundle for Linux! (LOLz!)
Since we're discussing Tor, one of the most fucked up things about Tor Browser Bundle (TBB) for Linux was made public in a recent update:
Tor Browser 7.0.3 is released (major security bugfix release for Linux users only) - 2017-08-01 - via SoylentNews
"This release features an important security update to Tor Browser for Linux users.
On Linux systems with GVfs/GIO support Firefox allows to bypass proxy settings as it ships a whitelist of supported protocols. Once an affected user navigates to a specially crafted URL the operating system may directly connect to the remote host, bypassing Tor Browser. Tails and Whonix users, and users of our sandboxed Tor Browser are unaffected, though."
== SCARY:
"We believe that previous versions of Tor Browser are affected as well (definitely 6.5.2 which I tested).
There is no particular version this bug got added as the offending code has been in Firefox for years. "
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Many /. and SN users refer to turn on scripts
Keeping it a web application won't satisfy the "I refuse to turn on scripting in the browser" crowd who frequents sites like this, if comments to stories about Chrome's adoption of WebAssembly on Slashdot and on SoylentNews are any indication. Or by "web application", do you refer to an application where all scripting is server-side and all interactivity is through link navigation and form submission?
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Re:This is not the Slashdot articles I signed up f
*cough*
https://soylentnews.org/
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Fast sinnating.
everyone will be required to follow suite in order to compete
Ah. The "my hotel is better than your hotel" theory of AI.
I find your ideas inleaguing. May I ascribe to your newsletter? I too wish to sew dysentery among the masses; clearly they're only hanging on by a thread.
--fyngyrz
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No difference
Einstein offered mathematical proof of his claims. There is a difference.
The thing you're completely missing is that these truths existed before Einstein pointed it out to the rest of us.
The fact that highly intelligent, inimical AI will be able to pose a threat exists prior to AI, just as the fact that GPS satellites would be able to show us where we are on the planet existed before Einstein ever said a word about relativity. In addition, we already know that highly intelligent minds are possible (and Einstein's one of the people responsible for that, too.) The door's completely open and the potential for achieving this using technology is 100% already known. Anyone who says true AI's not coming in the short term at this point is just being willfully ignorant (or assuming a apocalypse that utterly stops progress in the area, like an asteroid impact.) In any case:
Our awareness, or lack thereof, of something does not in the least affect the objective reality of the fact. Reality is what it is: our opinions don't change that. They can make sure you get blindsided by new tech, new social trends, etc., though.
--fyngyrz
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Re:Global AI posing a danger to humanity is unlike
By definition, we won't know how far we are from developing the necessary theory of intelligence, until we've done it and demonstrated that it's sufficient.
Not even then. You don't need to understand simultaneous equations in order to know how to throw a baseball. You only need them to describe it accurately.
It is entirely likely that the first AI's will emerge from "throwing mud at the wall" activities by programmers with relatively vague ideas about how it actually works. We don't even know what's going on inside any particular trained neural net; it's too complex to characterize. As the systems grow more dense with constructs we don't fully understand the workings of, we'll be even more uncertain. If AI emerges from such stacked undertakings, not only will it not be "programmed" to do anything, it will be just as incomprehensible as any human mind is today. Or more so. Likely we won't have a testable theory for a very long time after that.
But it will be almost instantly replicable, because every part of it can be copied electronically, and you can bet your last dollar that it will be. Probably by the next day.
Regulating won't help, any more than regulation stopped people from engaging in gay sex, taking drugs, cheating on taxes, having more than 2 cats or dogs, etc. Telling people not do do something interesting and likely self-beneficial is like pissing into the wind and expecting to stay dry.
Just grab the popcorn and keep your toes out from under the wheels as best you can. It's coming, and there isn't squat anyone can do to stop it short of our technological advancement going away entirely.
Note to ACs: I don't read AC replies. If you want to talk to me, log in.
Note to poster, which they're probably not going to read: Slashdot requires moderators to post anonymously. Because Slashdot rules are stupid, and the owners, as per usual, have no interest in actually improving the site. So I'm logged in, but I have to post anonymously or I am locked entirely out of this conversation; or I can comment but can't moderate, which is not acceptable to me. One of the things Slashdot is in desperate need of is sane moderation.
--fyngyrz
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AI future
Aside from anything else, if we don't allow animal cruelty
We're quite a ways from that.
Corporations will put AI anywhere it feels it will make them money, if corporations are still a thing when it becomes clear how to do this.
Individuals will put AI anywhere it can create an advantage for them, whether that be amusing the rugrats / grandspawn or figuring out how to hack the neighbor's electricity supply to turn off the loud music at the party.
Nations will put AI anywhere it can control its citizens and promote / improve its own position in the world.
There's plenty to worry about in the nature of every level of all technological societies here; but it's also completely unavoidable. You can't control the experiments going on in every garage, not even close, and resources are continually getting more powerful and easier to access and own.
--fyngyrz
* Anon due to mod points - stupid rule. Soylent News does it better.
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Re:There's also the banning
And then there are Twitter's automated censorship tools and its practice of banning people at the request of its business partners.
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Re:Can we get some non-political submissions today