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One of the more prominent deaths from virally-mediate gene therapy was Jesse Gelsinger. You are probably thinking of him. That page is pretty comprehensive in terms of describing why he died, and the metabolic defect that they were trying to correct.

The clinical trial that he was taking part in was immediately halted, and there was some soul-searching in the scientific community for a while. But a quick search on gene therapy indicates that it's still quite an active area of research (look here, sort by date).

A while ago, gene therapy was discussed on Slashdot. I found a couple of good articles on the future and hazards of using viruses to deliver corrective DNA to diseased tissue. Follow the link to them from my Web site, unless you're the copyright police! Hope they are helpful.

Instead Ask Naughty Natalie a Question

Instead Ask Naughty Natalie a Question

WHERE is my PROVOLONE

HERE!.

I'm curiously aroused by the picture ... anyone know why?

It is high time I find out what a T1 costs and calculate the numbers and see what the people on my street think.

Ah, you do not understand the concept of Very Long Instruction Word. Internally the chip's ALU's may be 32- or 64-bit, but with VLIW several instructions (whose results do not depend on each other) go in and are executed in parallel. That's a simplistic explanation. Here is stuff about the Transmeta chips and many other innovative and non-conventional designs. Look at IA-64 and Sun MAJC on the same page.

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I remember seeing the movie Tron, and I thought, how cool it would be if I had computergraphics like that in my computer (an Amiga 1000 at that time). And now, with the advancement of tehcnology, I can have.. without the need for a Cray Y MP! Sometimes technology is so beautiful, it brings tears in my eyes..

We're getting DAMN close.
[From this website]
http://www.netlib.org/benchmark/top500/reports/rep ort95/Architectures/node3.html
1.1.2 The Cray Y-MP T90 (Triton)
Machine type: Shared-memory multi-vectorprocessor.
Models: Y-MP T90.
Operating system: UNICOS (Cray Unix variant).
Compilers: Fortran, C, C++, Pascal, ADA.

System parameters:

Model Cray Y-MP T90
Clock cycle 2.2 ns
Theor. peak performance:
Per processor 1.818 Gflop/s
Maximal 58.2Gflop/s
Main memory 8 GB
Memory bandwidth:
Single proc. bandwidth 21.8 GB/s
No. of processors 2-32

Performance:

19.5 Gflop/s
28.8 Gflop/s

Note: The and values as given above stem from a 16 processor T90 (T916).

The T90 is the successor of the the Cray Y-MP C90 and in almost all respects the machines are similar. As in the C90, the number of arithmetic vector pipe sets is four. The performance of a full T90 CPU is slightly less than four-fold that of a maximal C90 system. This is brought about by lowering the clock cycle from 4.1 to 2.2 ns and by doubling the number of CPUs from 16 to 32.

The machines from Cray Research Inc. are at this moment the only ones with a memory bandwidth as seems optimal for vector processors: two operands can be loaded and one result can be stored in one cycle for each pipe set. For the C90 this meant that the relative bandwidth to the CPUs had to be doubled from 24 to 48 bytes/cycle. This has indeed been accomplished and observed results indicate that for the C90 the performance scales up with the clock cycle and the number of functional units.

The Cray Y-MP T90, C90, and M90 systems do not have separate scalar processors but scalar- and vector code have to share the same functional units. Theoretically, the absence of separate scalar processors might impair the throughput speed, however, in practice the drawbacks seem rather limited.
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The interesting thing was CRAY was selling a "CRAY on a chip" back in 1988.

Intel 860 (1988). 'Cray-on-a-chip'. Scary!
http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/jbayko/cpu5.html#Sec5P art2

Just as a historical footnote... it doesn't always pay to try to jump too far ahead. Check out the history of the Intel 432... ahead of its time, but not exactly a success.

`Well-supported' means that there is much evidence to back it. Evolution has had much opinion, much theory and much modelling grow up around it but essentially zero actual hard evidence in support of it being right.

Well, despite your claims, there is overwhelming evidence that evolution occurs. And the theory of evolution explains the data. Just like the theory of gravity explains the effects of gravity.

One of the big problems with evolution is that it can be bent to fit almost any circumstance, almost any evidence. In other words, it has very little - if any - actual
explanatory power.

Well, you are the one trying to use a theory in the field of biology for questions dealing with geology (see below), or Adolph Hitler

About Pattersons lecture. Everything he wrote before and after that time supports evolution. So I expect that it is an out of context quote, an opening dialog meant to be contraversial to get their audiences attention.

After a particularly telling paper by Marcel Shutzenberger of the University of Paris, the chairman of the gathering, C.H. Waddington, said, "Your argument is simply that life must have come about by special creation!" The stenographer records, "Schutzenberger: No! Voices: No!" Anything but creation; it wasn't even fair (in spite of the evidence!) to bring up the word. --
Facts of Life , Page 21 (quote from the transcript)

Well, I don't know what an evolutionist would do with this but I could guess. When I ask them about evolution the only answer I get from them is, "Convergence is everywhere." -- Pattersen again

Oh yes, Baughs famous hammer. Typical creationist "Evidence". A 19th century miners hammer encased in soluble minerals.

And Mt St Helens - you really cannot try to compare "canyons"
carved through ash to canyons carved in rock.

Furthermore, evolution isn't supposed to explain these two things. Evolution is a theory in the field of biology, and those events are (other than fraudulent or deceptive) in the field of geology.

"The second field is that of basic electronics. The big costs here will be an occiliscope and an eeprom burner. With these tools, most any project can be made."

How about a DC to 7GHz sampling scope for under $200 in parts that lets you recover signals buried in noise. I've just invented a new sampling technique that lets you do this. The basic theory is described
here

http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/sampler/ in tro.htm

The first application was a wideband TDR to replace an old Tektronix unit, and the results are posted on my web site.

How about an octave-bandwidth DDS synthesizer from 1 to 2 GHz, with noise performance comparable to high quality commercial gear. Check

http://groups.google.com/groups?lr=&safe=off&gro up =sci.electronics.design

Look for John Miles or "Hybrid PLL schematics (was Re: AD9854-driven PLL)"

The pcb should be out soon at very low cost.

John's synthesizer would make an excellent trigger source for the sampler using the heterodyne technique described on my web site. It would also make an excellent general-purpose synthesizer since it has octave bandwidth and any frequency can be generated by dividing down. Of course, it would also make an excellent local oscillator for direct conversion receivers like the K2.

Best Regards, Mike

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That's just one of the problems with gene therapy.

The other major problem is that we still don't know enough about how viruses (or other vectors for gene insertion) interact with biological systems to ensure efficacy, or safety either. Several gene therapy clinical trials involving viral vectors have been abandoned, simply because the body responded (normally) to the presence of virus in the body.

You may be interested in looking through these articles on gene therapy from Real Scientific Journals; at the risk of pissing off the copyright police, I've linked to two good, readable review articles on the topic at my web site. I hope these can dispel some of the myths about GT.

please spam this email address with everything you've got. I wanna see what you bastards can do. spooch@sympatico.ca spooch@sympatico.ca --spooch spooch@sympatico.ca

It seems to me that ISPs use interception proxies to lower bandwidth costs. Here in Canada (Ontario at least), most of the big ISPs are talking about implementing bandwidth caps (5GB/month with excess charged at C$10/GB). I hope your ISP isn't doing both, as that would seem unnecessary and rather heavy-handed.

My previous ISP, Sympatico, used to have a transparent interception caching proxy. It was quite troublesome and more of a translucent crashing poxy server. I remember being unable to access starwars.com for two weeks once, even though everything else seemed fine. It was particularly annoying for people whose MTU was set too high (they needed 1454 or less) as they would constantly get timeouts on HTTP POST, such as when trying to send email from a web interface like Hotmail or Yahoo. It was also a constant source of problems for people trying to author their own personal web pages as it would cache them and not show their updates.

My current ISP, IStop.com, has an optional proxy. This is great! I normally use it, but if I have problems, I can switch to a direct connection. They run Squid and they also seem to have some sort of advert filter running. I get their logo (cached by my browser) or "This ad zapped" messages in place of at least 80% of web ads, which saves me lots of irritation, and both of us save lots of bandwidth. Incidentally, they also have reasonable bandwidth caps: 10GB non-local + 10GB local (mail, news, proxy, etc) per month, with excess charged at C$3/GB.

After a while, Sympatico reduced HTTP interception to large population centres like Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa. Finally, they stopped doing that too. I guess it was causing too many problems and costing them too much to deal with it. If my ISP were to introduce an interception proxy today, I would leave them immediately. It's just not worth the irritation and problems for the length of time it will take them to fix it or get rid of it. I do live in an area where there is plenty of DSL competition though.

So that would be my advice: switch ISPs immediately. Don't waste anymore time or effort on these guys.

Oh, c'mon. Having no equipment or not being in Houston / NYC is no excuse for not working out.

I used to be in decent shape back in the day; I could run a four and a half minute mile. I had a 32 inch waist.

Then I started a Web development company and ran it for five years. A lot of time was spent sitting behind a computer, eating badly and drinking obscene amounts of Coca Cola, or in airports, eating crappy airport food. At the end of my five year run, most my muscle mass had turned to flab. I could barely run a mile in any amount of time, and had a 38" waist.

I finally left the company last spring. I got off my ass, started doing 20 to 30 minutes of calisthetics every other day, ate healthier, and was back down to a 32" waist in about 6 months. The only thing left to do is work on my cardiovascular conditioning, which should take about an hour of jogging or swimming three days a week, and to quit smoking.

If you can't find the motivation to do a sum total of five hours of exercise a week, you've got bigger problems. Like dying prematurely from heart disease.

You don't need to be able to take that class, or build your treadmill torture machine. You already have all you need to get into reasonable shape.

You don't know of enough tech sites to claim that "almost every tech site" banded together on something. No one does.

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Want to call a function? Stash your arguments in registers, and bang!, you're there. Of course, when you got to the edges (few used, or most used), you had to ``fill'' or ``spill'' from RAM (or cache), but it was all but invisible to the programmer. They had separate instruction and data memory (``Harvard'' architecture), so you could access both simultaneously.

IMHO as a programmer (not architect), the only shortcoming was their condition-code setup. There was no CC register---you did a comparison, and stashed the result in whatever register was handy, branching later on testing that reg. true or false. They missed a bet---they should have stashed a full set of conditions in the register, so you could compare once, then test as many conditions as your little heart desired, instead of: compare LT, jp T, compare EQ, jp F, ..., do: compare, jp LT, jp EQ, .... Ah, well...

AMD introduced it as a general-computing chip, for high-end Unix boxes, workstations, &c. Unfortunately, they did it just as the IBM PC juggernaut was coming up to speed, and the x86 flood swept it away. AMD tried to convert it into an embedded-system chip (which is where I met it), but like so many others (88000 [Honeywell?], 32000 [National?]), they faded away. AMD officially dropped support for it a few years ago. Damn, that was one sweet chip.

(Of course, the Harvard architecture was fit to give HW engineers apoplexy, but that wasn't my problem. :-) If this interests you, just do a Google search on "AMD 29000". I'm not the only one still carrying the torch for it. So many of those 32-bit efforts were funcionally superior to what's left today.

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A nice procmail rule to filter emails with too many foreign characters can be found here.

/.'s lameness filter prevents me from posting the code here. :(

I want to be the first one with pictures of the Blue Screen of Death on a cell phone.

Pretend the VM is just a really CISC-y microprocessor. Many of the microprocessors out there are particularly good at running C code simply because C maps very neatly into most processor's assembly languages. When you start talking about more academic languages, they would map less obviously into machine code on a typical processor. However, a processor could be designed with an instruction set optimized for that sort of language, if the hardware engineers really thought it was necessary.

From "Great Microprocessors of the Past and Present:"

This is not the only processor designed specifically for a language that is slow on other CPUs. Several specialized LISP processors, such as the Scheme-79 lisp processor, were created, but this chip is unique in its object oriented features at a time when the concept wasn't well-known (actually, I hadn't the foggiest idea of what object-oriented programming was when I first learned about it - obvious from reading unrevised versions of this description). It also manages to support objects without the slowness of the Intel 432.

Creating an optimal processor for running any language would involve too many trade-offs to be useful.

OK, to the uninitiated... Fritz Lang's 1927 Metropolis has influenced everything from Blade Runner's iconography to Madonna's 'Express Yourself' video to virtually every subsequent film rendition of Frankenstein.

So when I read on /. about an anime 'Metrpolis,' my immediate assumption is that we're talking about an anime-version of Fritz Lang's Metropolis, the world-famous movie by that title.

However I believe many problems with leprosy are actually the result of feeling no pain.

There's a book about this: "Pain: the gift nobody wants" by Paul Brand I believe.

Here's a description I found

These discussions about american cable and internet access prices always shock me. In comparison to my country (Canada) the US has a much higher population density. And therefore, for technologies like DSL and cable which require more hardware per distance from the central office, it should be LESS expensive to deploy these in the US in comparison to Canada since on average, the american companies should get more subscribers (and revenue) per amount of hardware:

For example (In Canada, monthly costs:)
Cable TV (deluxe package): CDN$44.34
DSL (worst case): CDN$24.95
Phone Service (Sprint): CDN$19.95

Total: CDN$89.24 or US$55.93 for DSL, long distance and cable TV.

Now to me, US$200+ for all that stuff is a rip-off in the extreme. I honestly don't know how Americans have put up with prices being pumped up this high and not revolting. These prices are certainly more than inflated and you are well justtified in complaining.

Note (1): I pay abour CDN$30/month for internet access, but that's because I don't live in an area with broadband coverage, and my package includes dual-dialup multilink and a shell account.

Note (2): The deluxe packages for Canadian satellite TV are more in the CDN$40/month range.

I've start encoding the message at http://www3.sympatico.ca/stephane_dumas/CETI/outpu t_stream.txt and found some serious errors:

It says that 2^0=0, 2^1=4 and 2^2=8 in the second page, and the list of prime numbers have 15, that isn't prime...

The second page:

1+1=2 1-1=0 1*1=1 1+2=3 1-2=1 1*2=2 3+2=5 3-2=1 3*2=6 1+0=1 1-0=1 1*0=0 1/1=1 1/3=0.33333... 1/2=0.5 4/3=1.33333... 3/2=1.5 1/9=0.11111... 1/0= 2/3=0.66666... 0-1=-1 1/11=0.09090... 1^1 =1 2^0 = 2 = OOOO 3^1 =3 1^1 =1 2^1 = 4 = OOXO 3^2 =9 1^2 =1 2^2 = 8 = OOXO 3^3 =21 1^3 =1 2^3 = 8 = XOOO 3^4 =81


4^2 =16 5^3 =125 9^3 =81


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is infinity or undefinied.

I sure hope that "the message" is written a hell of a lot better than the embarassing english prose in their description of it.

As an aside, they describe the dots beside the naked man and woman as: "The dotted line on the left side, give (sic) a representation of Up (sic) and Down (sic). It is ballistic trajectory, showing clearly where the gravity goes (sic)." They should have just drawn the woman a little older, so the aliens could just look at her wrinkled breasts to see where the gravity goes!

The company says it will offer the technology to cable operators at $425 US for a single-TV household, adding $250 to equip a second TV.

The MC will cost about $350 to $450 to manufacture, according to Perlman, while the MCx will run about $50 -- the same or less than advanced digital cable boxes just now coming on the market. Consumers would likely pay much less, or could even get the hardware for free from cable- and satellite-TV providers in exchange for higher monthly fees.

So it will cost more than an Xbox but not play Xbox games.

It is closer to a barebones computer with large hard drive in price - because that what it's components are from. Hopefully they have removed some of the standard PC problems though. E.g., boot faster, tolerant of power-offs and less power hungry.

Be sure to read the last paragraph from the SJ Mercury News article:

The loudest voice is Microsoft, Perlman's former employer -- he worked at the company for two years after the WebTV acquisition, leaving in frustration with Microsoft's slow pace and insistence on cramming a version of its Windows computer software into TV-based devices. Moxi uses the Linux operating system and Macromedia Flash animation software.

``We couldn't do the things we are doing with Windows XP,'' Perlman said, referring to the most recent version of Microsoft's flagship operating system. ``The best broadband (home) networks out there will be the ones that don't use Microsoft technology.''

I presume that your ISP is using the G.Lite implementation of ADSL which dictates 1.5 Mbps downstream and 512Kbps upstream

Not quite. Sympatico has just recently up'ped their business class ADSL service to 3.0Mbps downstream. Their salesmen, of course, could use a little tact in their diets. One friend (and small business owner) got a telephoned, faxed, and e-mailed apology from one particular salesman and his supervisor for harassing him.

"But sir! You DO need 3 megabits! Who WOULDN'T want those higher speeds? It's ONLY an extra $50 per month!"

Anyways, higher speed DSL service is available in Canada, unfortunately Sympatico appears unable to upgrade their network to meet customer demands, so we all wind up with poor speeds and unreliable connections. Half the time, I wind up being authenticated through their ATM cloud to Montreal or Kingston.

Since Sympatico is piggy-backing on Bell Nexxia's national network, they have the potential to offer 8Mbit service to all customers, if only they'd get their act together.

{harumph!}

Not sure about Icelandic Sagas, but there's an Internet Wiretap edition of Beowulf which is available here.

Regards

HH

And the prices I'm quoting are the worst case scenario which is of course Bell Canada. Going with other local ISPs, I could get DSL for about CAD$35/mo including modem rental.

So what am I saying? The service in the US is just too dang expensive and if people are leaving it [the service], I'm not suprised.

I see lots of OT threads being created on Brit versus American spelling here. Maybe this reference will shed some light.

Canada is (as usual) comfortably wedged between the Brit and American columns of the table -- sometimes Canucks use the Brit spelling exclusively, sometimes they use the American one exclusively, and sometimes they use both. How diplomatic!

I've run LinuxPPC R4 on my beige G3 (266 MHz, 64 MB RAM) before, and was extremely impressed. It was highly responsive, and seemed quite capable of saturating my 100 Mbit Ethernet connection when I was testing. I will admit that I eventually removed it because I missed the Mac OS interface too much, (and am about ready to move to OS X, so probably won't go back to Linux on my Mac), but I have only good things to say about Linux's PPC performance.

They are both RISC processors, so the general principles are the same.

This isn't your fault, it's the fault of marketing drones, but the PPC really isn't a RISC CPU. It does take some RISC concepts--for example, it has many registers (32x32bit integer and 32x64bit floating point registers on all PPC CPUs, and 32x128bit vector registers on the G4), all instructions are 32-bits in length, the chip was designed to enable things like OOO from the start, etc. However, the PowerPC actually has just about as many instructions as an Intel chip. In fact, IBM redefined RISC to mean "Reduced Instruction Set Cycles" when they decided they wanted to advertise the PPC as a RISC chip. (See http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/jbayko/cpu.html#Sec5Pa rt3 for details.) (As an example, the G4's AltiVec unit adds 160 new instructions for SIMD ops. It's really hard to call the G4 a RISC chip anymore even if you do consider the G3 one.) So I wouldn't exactly group the SPARC, which last time I checked doesn't have a multiply instruction in its standard spec, with the G4, which has an instruction that means "add these eight integers to those eight and then multiply them all by this constant" as a standard opcode.)

TechTVs History of the First-Person Shooter
Blue's News FPS Guide and History
First Person Shooters
MediaPipes History of the First Person Shooter
3D Action Planets History of the FPS Shooter.

Also, here's a link to Spasism that claims to be the first First-Person Shooter 3D multiplayer networked game, circa 1974!.

If anything, you could say Doom was the first game to show that the PC could now be considered a serious games playing machine.

liB

Subject: Important! Check your Sympatico Email Server Settings (Cell 3E)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:35:57 -0400
From: "Sympatico"
To: <xxxxxxxx@sympatico.ca>

As a valued Bell Sympatico(TM) member, we want to ensure that you are enjoying
your online experience and are protected from any misuse of the Internet.

To help protect you and other members from unwanted or unsolicited email messages,
efforts are being put in place to restrict the use of non-Sympatico email servers. Sympatico
members will now use the Sympatico email servers to send their email.

As of May 21, 2001, please use the correct Sympatico email setting. If you have changed
any of your email server settings to a non-Sympatico address, please correct your
settings by May 21, 2001. Otherwise, you will not be able to send email until you have
done so. The Bell Sympatico outgoing mail server address is:

smtp1.sympatico.ca

For instructions on how to confirm or change your email server settings with the email
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Thank you for your cooperation in this regard.

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Sympatico is a trade-mark of Bell ActiMedia Inc., used under license. The service is provided
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Subject: Important! Check your Sympatico Email Server Settings (Cell 3E)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:35:57 -0400
From: "Sympatico"
To: <xxxxxxxx@sympatico.ca>

As a valued Bell Sympatico(TM) member, we want to ensure that you are enjoying
your online experience and are protected from any misuse of the Internet.

To help protect you and other members from unwanted or unsolicited email messages,
efforts are being put in place to restrict the use of non-Sympatico email servers. Sympatico
members will now use the Sympatico email servers to send their email.

As of May 21, 2001, please use the correct Sympatico email setting. If you have changed
any of your email server settings to a non-Sympatico address, please correct your
settings by May 21, 2001. Otherwise, you will not be able to send email until you have
done so. The Bell Sympatico outgoing mail server address is:

smtp1.sympatico.ca

For instructions on how to confirm or change your email server settings with the email
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One of the more interesting points made in the above article is about the construction of doors. What we think of as doors, they say, are really lousy examples of doors. You would think that the designers of the pyramid could also design some pretty good doors to keep tomb raiders out, but whats there (or rather, was there), doesn't really appear to have been designed to keep people out. However, if you view them as valves instead of doors, their effectivness becomes more apparent. There are also what appear to be one way valves, a stone ball sitting in a funnel-like structure in a vertical passageway. Water goes up, but not down.

Additonally, there is no evidence that anyone was ever entombed in the structure, nor is there any treasure, as was found in other pyramids (which have a different structure from the Great Pyramid).

They do make a plausable case, I'm curious to see how far they get with their scale model. I do wish they'd post a 3D animated model of the passageways in the Great Pyramid illistrating its functioning as a pump.

The operating principle is similar to that of the Ragged Chute Compressed Air Plant (no, as tempting as it sounds, thats not a goats.cx link, thats really what its called!) which has been in operation for over 70 years, generating highly compressed air using a very simple and clever method.

I've worked as a camp counsellor at Compucamp, a summer computer camp for kids, for the last two years, so I know exactly what you're doing here. (see www.compucamp.ca)

This is how our program works: The camps are one week long, and each has a "theme". They're broken up by age groups.

The preschoolers and kindergarteners basically just play games all week, but we introduce them to some basic drawing and word processing programs (try to get them to see just how big you can make a font in MS Write). The drawing program we use, Drawing For Children, is absolutely great for the really young ones, and can be found at http://www.cs.ruu.nl/~markov/kids/draw/.

The age 7-9 group learn basic Frontpage skills and throw together a webpage, as well as learn the basics of Paint Shop Pro. We also open up Nerf Arena Blast to them, which is a game based on the Unreal Tournament engine, but with nerf weapons. Really nice game.

The most popular camp so far is the graphics camp, where the entire camp is divided into two groups, and they actually produce their own short movie (usually about 1:30 in length). They learn to use morphing software, advanced Paint Shop Pro, and video editing using Videowave. We also let them have some fun with an old version of Bryce 3d.

However, the one key element to all of this: don't put them on the computer for 8 hours straight!!! The way we worked was we had 16 computers and usually 30 kids (maximum per camp was 32). While one half was on computer, the other half was playing games outside, doing crafts, and other things. We took them swimming every Thursday, we had a water fight every Friday. If they're on the computers too long, it gets very nasty!

Beyond that, I hope you have fun as a camp counsellor. Please feel free to e-mail me here if you have any other concerns about your camp, as I've seen it all. :-)

I'd like to counter that. I'm living within minutes of Kitchener Waterloo (Ontario) in a semi-rural area and can't even get 56k conexant (or whatever the flavour of the week is... it was once switched 56).

Problem is Bell didn't think ahead when it came to phone wiring. Most city folk get DSL because they are close the exchange. A lot of city folk in KW (last time I checked -- Jan. 2001) still can't get DSL because their lines are too long (like me). Basically it seems to me Bell is only going to provide DSL if you are close to the exchange. Past that you can get lost. :-)

A lot of rural people are lucky because they are within a few Ks of the exchange. There's been quite a few of us in my area been bugging Bell to put a remote DSLAM in for us few hundred residents who were wired 15 km from the exchange. It won't ever happen. I'm certain of that now.

Why? I bought all the [expensive!] equipment for satellite internet last month and always, whenever I want high speed, something screws me over. It's been over a month and no peeps from Bell. So I'll say that I won (finally!). But it is a Pyrrhic victory -- I have to pay $55 US + Dial up fees each month for the privelege.

>I recall hearing that Canada will have high-speed access avaliable to everyone by 2004.

Bell told me that we'd see everyone wired at the end of this year, and that at the end of last year 90% of Ontario was supposed to be wired.

Are there only about 240 towns and cities between Ontario and Quebec? Because that's all there could possibly be if I was to believe Bell. But, of course, I don't. They can't even keep my phone line clear of noise, never mind keep their ads free of it.

>Around here things have always seemed to be ahead of thier times as far as technology goes (from a rural standpoint).

You must be living very close to Bell and the Cable Co. then. Fortunately Canada's cable companies got on the bandwagon quickly -- and helped Canada become the high-speed to the desktop nation it is. I don't think I'd say that about Bell, unless you consider the high speed fiber only huge corporations and universities can touch counts... :-)

Now, please note, this only applies to Ontario and Quebec. If you live outside of there you don't have Bell (I'm told) so perhaps this is why you have a better experience to report?

Up here in Canada, we have it so much better. DSL is cheap -- really cheap. I paid $40/month (US$25) for ADSL. This is with PPPoE. If you pay a bit more, or go with dsl.ca instead of the local monopoly, you can get static IPs and stuff. As well, Bell has a deal with our university where students get 10% off DSL.

My install in September took four days. Four days! When I was with Telocity in San Francisco, it took 87 days. I am not exaggerating.

In fall 1999, when DSL first came to our area, Bell screwed up our order three times and it took us six weeks. (Most people got theirs in two.) I was very upset then, but service was great once it arrived.

Right now, I have Rogers@Home. They are as flaky as a two-dollar pastry. We were down two or three times over the weekend.

Paul

I took a look at some ICQ resources and apparently it may have AIM interoperability written into it. Has anyone taken a look at the "icqateres.dll" file in a resource editor? It seems to have AIM graphics and dialog boxes.

I've spent the last year developing a high volume web-based map server using Open Source tools. Note that the emphasis of this project has been vector based data (streets, rivers, shorelines, etc.), not image or raster data, so this skews my views somewhat. Sorry for the length of this post, but this really only scratches the surface of this topic.

The two best free tools I found for manipulating map data and producing maps are GRASS (www.geog.uni-hannover.de/grass/) and OpenMap (openmap.bbn.com). GRASS certainly wins hands-down for its ability to read various file formats (including ESRI Shape Files and E00 Files), but its interface is somewhat ... odd ... and I've found it very buggy when dealing with vector products. OpenMap is a very nice Java application and library that can do some very slick graphics and handle many different projections. However, because it is written in Java, it's ability to scale to the level that I needed (random access street level maps being produced in several seconds) is practically non-existant. Nevertheless, if you are looking for a "higher level" of mapping tool, OpenMap is probably the tool you are looking for.

I've also looked (somewhat superficially) at the major commercial mapping programs, produced by ESRI (www.ersi.com) and MapInfo (www.mapinfo.com). At prices starting at around $25000 and rapidly going up, you'll certainly need a lot of money to get into this game.

On the data side, there's a lot of data available on the net, some of it very good, and some not so good. Finding it is tricky, but it can be done. The "Digital Chart of the World" (DCW) is available from (HREF) and provides vector outlines for all the countries in the world (circa the early '90s). Its North American utility is somewhat limited, as the lat/lon points used in the vector outlines are based on NAD27, rather than the more popular NAD83 datum. The TIGER Line Files (HREF) is an excellent source of street level data (and state and county outlines, and much more) for the United States and various territories. Once the format of this data is understood, it's fairly easy to convert the data to a more usable format. Unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be much in the way of the tools out there on the net for working with this data.

There's very little free street level data available outside the United States. This is an area crying out for an Open database, as the non-free data sources are really expensive and generally involve nasty royalities.

I have been working on a the Onamap.com project for the last year. The primary purpose of Onamap is to provide a "where is it" tool for the Internet in which anyone can enter location data, commentary, etc.. The components of this project are:
- a common text-based file format for vector data;
- tools for converting TIGER, ESRI Shape Files, and DCW to this common format;
- the location web server, written using Apache, mod_python, and MySQL; and
- a high volume map server, written using Apache, jserv, Java, and C++.

The map server is fairly new technology, and the components written in Java (mainly the rendering engine utilizing Java2D) need to be rewritten in something more efficient. If you want to see samples of the maps that this engine can produce, go to http://www.onamap.com/sample.

The plan is to release this software to the public (down to the source level) in the next few months, after the code is cleaned up, debugged and documented. If anyone is interested in this project, please feel free to mail me at dpjanes@sympatico.ca.

Hmmm, so the magical debate over CISC vs. RISC rolls on. As I much agree that this machine would be a nice machine to have, I don't think that the $1k price tag is really worth it. Reason being that high end Athalon and Pentium systems can be obtained at a much more attractive price/performance ratio.

Hmmm, now how about raw performance? Granted the Sparc II is a nice CPU, but can it actually compete with an Athalon at 2x the MHz. If so, can it compete in such a wide margin that would justify the price. Check the Spec bench's...

2000 Integer Results
2000 Floating Point Results

Granted, these shouldn't be taken as the ultimate in performance, but I don't see a staggering lead.

As for those in the RISC vs. CISC camps. I hate to inform you that the RISC, CISC is all but dead. Current RISC designs now longer embody the RISC philosophies of days past. CISC cores blend in to the point that one couldn't distinguish it from its called RISC counterparts. Modern CPU's are cutting the edge of new design concepts. If you feel the need to follow up on this. I suggest reading the following...

RISC vs. CISC: the Post-RISC Era

and to track the history of your favorite CPU...
Here is a good place to start..

Hmmm, if you have a few bucks to spare, pick one up. But I don't see it as a vastly superior platform.

Great Microprocessors of the Past and Present (V 12.0.2)

its a cool read.. starts with the 4004.. covers a bunch of jazz.. odd processors, all kinds of crap

I've got 2 futons and 120 ft of CAT-5 waiting for anyone coming to my home town of Montreal for the YAPC!

Click here to become buddies with a budding perl lover up north! (yes Cam, you can come too!)

The Tao of Programming Read this to understand what makes good code.

Argh. I probably made a typo and Slashdot ate my link. Here it goes:

Great Microprocessors of the Past and Present (V 12.0.0)

The RCA 1802's in there.

Flavio

Here's a link for you: www.speed-uwaterloo.sympatico.ca That being said, i miss the @Home access i have at home, more reliable and it had a decent upstream (uploading at 18k/s gets annoying) although HSE is way better for playing FIFA2001. Customer service seems decent for both of them as well, but thats partly because my @Home access was in a good neighbourhood.

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Check this out.

Maybe the CRTC idea has something to do with the fact that Bell covered about 30%-50% (maybe less) of Ontario with ADSL and has now, for all intents and purposes, given up? See the bottom of that page for proof. There were about 10 - 20 cities listed there, now Bell only plans to upgrade 3 in the upcoming _months_. A major slowdown that the Bell HSE people don't want to explain to me.

Yeah I'm sore. Hell yeah I want that legislation. I live within near walking distance of a Canadian METROPOLIS (Kitchener-Waterloo) and have no high speed internet. I know people living inside that metropolis that have no access to high speed internet. And, for the final count, the 519 exchange covering that area is supposedly on Bell's "low service" list.

I hate Bell with a passion. Thankfully the CRTC has allowed CLECs. Maybe when Bell gets real competition from other companies laying copper lines we'll see people living in the country no longer being treated like second-class citizens. Maybe I'll get a modem connection that lasts a couple of hours.

After speaking with neighbours, I have yet to recall a single comment that doesn't vilify Bell. A local exchange area you can walk outside of, but can drive for over half an hour through (don't ask me why... I just know how far away the furthest point is). When you live in the city in Canada you get treated like royalty. Make the mistake of moving to the country and you become the sticky crud underneath Bell's shoes.

I for one am tired of being scraped off. When this legislation passes I'll be the first whiny person on the phone TELLING Bell to do what I want OR ELSE. It'll feel so good. Even better than when I got my first BBS account.

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