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You have yet to give a Trump example of that so I don't see the need.

Here you go.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/22/...

https://www.washingtonpost.com...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

And for "balance",

http://www.theblaze.com/storie...

TFA's description of 'violent videos' as violence by Israeli soldiers, conveniently ignoring videos produced by the islamic terrorists encouraging viewers to stab and kill Jews

Exhibit A, the embedded video in the following link showed a 'blow-by-blow' demonstration of how to stab and kill Jews

http://www.theblaze.com/storie...

Exhibit B, a 'tutorial video' of how to stab, where to stab, produced by islamic terrorists

http://www.timesofisrael.com/v...

DICE should be ashamed to publicize such trashy liberal propaganda !!

if there is such a broad danger that a crime won't be a crime if there are enough criminals to support removing it from law, then perhaps it shouldn't be a crime.

Lynching niggers was a rather popular concept in some locales — a town, or even an entire State could've voted to decriminalize such a thing. Tax-evasion would be a more modern concern...

The way I see it, is that universal franchise itself is a mistake — it just as much of an extreme to allow everyone to vote, as the other extreme of making a monarch decide everything was.

I'd like to see access to the polls limited to people, who can a) solve a quadratic equation (randomly-generated by computer); b) cite (type into computer) an article from the Bill of Rights — of the would-be voter's choosing.

I also want everybody, who received over $10 worth of public assistance within 3 months prior to the current poll, to be automatically disenfranchised as well. We may or may not agree on whether criminals represent a big enough group to affect the vote, but public dole-recipients surely are, and the danger of these people voting more of other people's monies to themselves is evident.

if criminals can form enough of a voting bloc to where they make for a significant impact on politics, then perhaps we have made crimes of too many behaviors

First of all, some elections really do come down to only a few people: Al Franken's win, for example, was due to only 312 votes. This example is important, because it cites voting by at least 341 felons...

But I can turn your words around and claim, that, if the felons' numbers are so insignificant anyway, then who cares, whether they vote or not? That said, in my opinion, if the prescribed punishment for a particular crime does not officially include disenfranchisement, it should not be applied...

I am not a gun owner. I think gun ownership in general should be heavily restricted in this country, and most types of firearms should be banned outright. The only way to reduce gun violence in this country is to get rid of most guns.

Darn that pesky Constitution.

Less guns means less gun violence.

Yep, because when Chicago was forced to start issuing concealed carry permits, this happened:

On Tuesday, the Chicago Police Department announced that the city experienced its lowest murder rate since 1958 in the first quarter of 2014. There were 6 fewer murders than the same timeframe in 2013 — a 9 percent drop — and 55 fewer murders than 2012, police said.

Further, there were reportedly 90 fewer shootings and 119 fewer shooting victims compared to last year. There have also been 222 fewer shootings and 292 fewer shooting victims compared to the first quarter in 2012.

All crime is down 25 percent from 2013 and police say they have confiscated over 1,300 illegal guns in the last three months.

And here's what happened when England banned handguns:

For an example of homicide rates before and after a ban, take the case of the handgun ban in England and Wales in January 1997 (source here see Table 1.01 and the column marked “Offences currently recorded as homicide per million population”). After the ban, clearly homicide rates bounce around over time, but there is only one year (2010) where the homicide rate is lower than it was in 1996. The immediate effect was about a 50 percent increase in homicide rates. The homicide rate only began falling when there was a large increase in the number of police officers during 2003 and 2004. Despite the huge increase in the number of police, the murder rate still remained slightly higher than the immediate pre-ban rate.

Chicago -> more guns, less crime
England -> less guns, more crime

How does it feel to have your beliefs crushed by facts?

I hope she was using Windows, we all know how hardened that is.

Not only was she running Windows Server (according to the AP article), but she was using Network Solutions for her registrar, even after the U.S. Postal Service and several other large institutions had their NetSol domains slammed to a registrar in the British Virgin Islands against their will; and for some reason the clintonemail.com IP address was changed to that same company in 2011. (This, of course, years and years after anyone with tech experience had dropped Network Solutions.)

[sarcasm]Yeah, because when sodomy and cohabitation laws were on the books, people always complied with them.[/sarcasm] People have always cheated on their spouses, had children out of wedlock, engaged in covert homosexual flings, &c. You just didn't hear about it as much because people didn't have 24/7 media. or the ease of discovery that we have today in an always-connected world. Don't for one second delude yourself that people today are hornier than our ancestors were. Placing these atavistic laws back on the books would only force such behaviour back underground. Sex is one of the most powerful forces in existence; legislating it away is futile and counterproductive. A little bit of trivia for you: guess what region of the United States experiences the greatest rates of out-of-wedlock births, STD's, pornography viewing, and other phenomena? That's right, the Deep South (one such citation here), which is the most socially conservative part of the country, with the highest levels of religious observance. What we need in order to stem the tide of children born into less than optimal conditions is more access to contraception and non-abstinence-based sex education, not chastity belts. Abstinence-only approaches are an unqualified disaster, and I suspect are advocated by either hypocrites or people who just plain don't enjoy sex and want company in their misery.

Is it just me, or when they say "private e-mail server" does any body else mentally picture an old Dell desktop PC sitting in a broom closet somewhere?

Close...
It was kept in the bathroom

Her servers where ran out of a bathroom of a huge democrat supporter

http://www.theblaze.com/storie...

Which organization is that? You forgot to include the website this time.

Very sorry. I forgot to include the links too! I meant conservatives and liberals.

A group [...] plans to burn American flags in a Brooklyn park on Wednesday, just days before the Fourth of July holiday.

The event originally was aimed at burning the Confederate flag, but later changed to focus on the stars and stripes.

Will you be there, Dave?

Actually you'll find that the request for funding for Russian rockets comes from the current administration. Last time I checked, he wasn't a member of the GOP.
It's hypocritical to say you'll sanction Russia for issues in the Ukraine yet lobby congress for money to buy the rockets.

http://www.theblaze.com/storie...

Here's how it played out just West of Detroit, in Jackson, MI: http://www.theblaze.com/storie...

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfro...
https://www.lewrockwell.com/20...
http://www.westernjournalism.c...
http://www.theblaze.com/storie...

Yes.

American people are not theirs to command

And yet, you aren't free to, for example, join a foreign military to fight Americans. Doing so — despite all the liberties Founding Fathers acknowledged you have — would still make you a traitor in their eyes.

Banning you from spending any money in Cuba — an enemy of the US — seems to be of the same sort of limitation as that.

Valid complaints would be that the numbers reported don't include the homeless (although those estimates are gathered elsewhere), you don't understand the report, or that it conflicts with your personal opinion.

Incorrect.

The numbers are specifically the number of people who are unemployed long term.

If you want to include the people who have simply stopped looking entirely, the percentage of working age people who were engaged, but are no longer, in the workforce in the U.S. who are not working is much higher.

Feel free to try and spin-doctor this:

IT’S AN ILLUSION: HERE ARE THE REAL UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS
http://www.infowars.com/its-an...

The Real Unemployment Rate: In 20% Of American Families, Everyone Is Unemployed
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...

Fact Check: No, ‘Actual’ Unemployment Isn’t 37.2 Percent
(it's "only" more than twice the number reported by the government)
http://www.theblaze.com/storie...

Chart: What’s the real unemployment rate?
(This is the "U-6 rate" - "The U-6 rate covers the unemployed, underemployed and those who are not looking but who want a job.")
http://www.cnbc.com/id/1020551...

Real unemployment rate is at least 18 percent
http://thehill.com/blogs/congr...

Missing Workers: The Missing Part of the Unemployment Story
(This is the economic policy institute; they have the lowest "real" estimate, slightly less than 2X what the fed is reporting; they have a somewhat vested interest in casting the numbers lower than the others, as they get more than 1/4 of their funding from labor unions)
http://www.epi.org/publication...

Feel free to disagree with them, or cite numbers from sources that don't have a political master to which their numbers are subservient (i.e. "someone other than the DOL").

http://www.theatlantic.com/nat...


http://www.theguardian.com/us-...


http://www.theblaze.com/storie...

Experts and laymen have long assumed that people who died by suicide will ultimately do it even if temporarily deterred.

Yes some that are suffering will go until they are "relieved", but I am reminded of the story of Kevin Hines, the man who jumped from the Golden Gate Bridge and instantly regretted it, survived to tell us.
He states he prayed to survive and never thinks about suicide any longer.

I wonder how many other would say the same if they had survived.

http://www.theblaze.com/storie...

https://www.google.com/search?...

If you are registered with the state to be the overseeing signatory on a marriage certificate

And when did bakers gain that authority? The previous post said decorating a wedding cake.

Blinding weapons are banned? Not so.

From that article:

[...] a soldier he interviewed after an incident in Iraq a few years ago. While on duty, the soldier fumbled a dazzler he was trying to point at an oncoming vehicle a safe distance away. “He was in an awkward position and illuminated a rearview mirror in such a way that he got a beam directly back into the eye.” The beam had gone less than 6 metres when it hit the soldier in the centre of vision of his right eye, burning the retina and leaving his vision in that eye permanently damaged.

Yeah, right. Blinding lasers are banned from military use, except that the military uses them and (from the article) are being made available to police departments.

I'm missing something here - is it OK if it blinds soldiers so long as the *intent* is not to blind soldiers? Is the ban only for *combat* soldiers and not policing soldiers? Is it only banned in *declared wars*, and not *non-war military invasions*?

Can anyone explain why we use dazzlers when they appear to be on the banned list?

You mean like Texas selling information on drivers, or Florida doing the same? The funny thing is that these are states where "big government" is supposedly frowned upon.

In the event somebody may have noted this already, Sony has decided to cancel the release to all theaters this afternoon. It was not the theater chains' decision. I guess Sony Entertainment et al didn't want to risk seeing any of the threats come to fruition. Here are some links for your perusal: http://twitchy.com/2014/12/17/... http://www.theblaze.com/storie... Meanwhile, there may be an idea of who is behind the breach and release: http://www.theblaze.com/storie...

In the event somebody may have noted this already, Sony has decided to cancel the release to all theaters this afternoon. It was not the theater chains' decision. I guess Sony Entertainment et al didn't want to risk seeing any of the threats come to fruition. Here are some links for your perusal: http://twitchy.com/2014/12/17/... http://www.theblaze.com/storie... Meanwhile, there may be an idea of who is behind the breach and release: http://www.theblaze.com/storie...

Cuba's got some oppression sure

"Some" oppression? What a wonderful understatement... You have to register with police — and get their permission — just to travel from one town to another...

but it's not like the US is torture-free either.

Yeah, this was the first thing, that struck me upon moving to America 20 years ago. Your ready willingness to equate the petty misdeeds of your country's government with the gross human rights violations of others. To you and yours, McCarthy — who caused a hundred or so people (most of them actual Communists) to lose their jobs — is equivalent to Beria, who killed millions.

What little torture we did use, was applied to enemies — and most of us are duly ashamed of it anyway. The worst, that political opposition has to fear in the US, is an IRS audit. Do you understand, what's going to happen to a Cuban questioning Fidel's competence?

The flower children of 1960-70-ies have all grown and are running the country. A feminist NY Times reporter agreed to show the Sony exec an article about her prior to publishing it — which is strictly against journalistic ethics. The article, of course, is quite adoring — the firm is praised for its "pro-women" movies (like "Frozen"). Journalistic integrity is secondary to the agenda — the Greater Good of promoting women justifies the means. Nobody will know, right?

Sony executive — Ms. Pascal — is quoted in the exchange as unable to properly spell "you are". Despite her correspondent — NYT's Dowd — gently correcting her several times, she kept writing "YOUR" (yes, in ALL CAPS) instead of "you're". How could such a moron become a major executive? Because it is good for a company's image to have a woman at the top, that's how... And, it being Hollywood, she had to be an Illiberal, of course.

And that's part of the bigger picture — our very President is who he is not (only) because of personal merits, but because of his race. Some mythical "haters" may have voted against him because of it, but he got more votes thanks to it, than he lost due to it.

Not only did it help him in 2008, it helped him all along before that. We don't know, how well he did in college, for example, but we know, he was elected President of Harvard Law Review — a feat, for which he thanked Black professors...

Among the first things he did in White House, was to appoint a fellow affirmative action "wise Latina" to Supreme Court. Again, not because she is the best qualified legal expert, but because she is a Latino.

No one with the functional organ will agree to a brain surgery done by a doctor, who got to do it because of his skin color or sex. Why, then, do we tolerate the governance of public and private institutions alike run by people, whose gender and race were taken into account, when they got the job?

WHO estimates 20k will be infected with ebola and around 2/3 may die dues to it. Yet it is all over the news. meanwhile WHO states 1.5 million died from heart disease in 2012
makes you wonder who is trying to cover up what these days

And where is the MH370 plane?

KI

Your examples are flawed. There isn't a database with a complete record of all license plate movements.

LOL. I stopped reading here. You are so naive. There are multiple different databases with a complete record of all license plate movements.

I'm more interested in the "churchgoing" thing. It flies in the face of studies that show atheists don't have very different odds of getting divorced, whereas conservative Christians have higher divorce rates.

Maybe because the other studies got it completely wrong. If you divide the Christian population between Nominal Christian (Christian culturally, but not in practice) versus practicing Christians, the rates are really much different, which seems to be something verified in this study.

It's not cheaper in the US because the government refuses to subsidize it

The government subsidizes it.

indeed has done almost everything they could do to destroy Amtrak.

Not true at all. It is the government keeping Amtrak afloat. Support for Amtrak is surprising broad. Democrats support it because they like big government, and especially like trains. Republicans support it because service to sparsely populated red states would be the first thing cut if the subsidies were reduced.

I doubt there's a person on this earth that's ever achieved their political goals without at some point having to sacrifice their principles to at least some degree.

Golden words. And it is especially true about Communists, who nowadays masquerade as "environmentalists". Like watermelons, they are green on the outside, but red inside.

Scratch a "green" activist, and you'll find a Che Guevara T-shirt underneath. Whether global warming is really happening (and it is already accepted, that we are living through a "pause" in it), if it helps sabotage Capitalism, it is a worthy cause.

And you'll notice, that these types — who also appear on every "anti-war" demonstration — would call themselves peaceful, non-violent, and opposed to "hatred". But, should they ever be allowed to perform their "revolution" (because Capitalism can't be reformed, you see), they'll all recall Che Guevara's

A revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate.

You can read about how Apple is going to revolutionize payments, or you can read some of the user stories here about how people have been using google for payments for a long time with no problems, and you might think about how, even a few months ago, Apple had a major https problem:

http://www.theblaze.com/storie... [theblaze.com]

Well first, you quoted "The Blaze" which makes your entire point suspect. But beyond that, did you actually READ the post you quoted? It's a hypothetical issue from February - can you cite a specific example where it was exploited?

And seriously, I have no loyalty to Apple or Google, but cherry picking is not a good argument, it's easy to do the same with Google, and in this case there is definitely confirmed malware...

Google's Doubleclick ad servers exposed millions of computers to malware

Citation, please.

Well, you can read all the headline news about how all the malware is on Android because Apple keeps it off of iWhatever, or you can try to figure out which system is better for the stuff you're actually going to use:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/10/131011092523.htm

You can read the false equivalence narrative about how both Apple and google suffered data breaches recently, or you could use your brain and realize that you have seen evidence that it's pretty easy to get "private" stuff out of Apple's cloud, but there's not much evidence of getting it out of google's cloud:

http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2364799/google-confirms-five-million-customer-data-dump-but-denies-breach

You can read about how Apple is going to revolutionize payments, or you can read some of the user stories here about how people have been using google for payments for a long time with no problems, and you might think about how, even a few months ago, Apple had a major https problem:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/24/apples-security-breach-should-scare-you-more-than-targets-did/

And finally, you can ooh and aah about how iOS is now encrypting everything in a way that only the user can decrypt it "unlike [Apple's] competitors" and google is playing catchup, or you can dig deeper and find out that this has been an option on Android for three years, and all google has to do to match Apple is turn it on by default. (They probably had it off by default simply so Apple wouldn't be beating them in storage benchmarks.)

So you actually approve of a Business Model based on Tracking (and Selling) your every online move?

Now I have to ask you for a citation. Google targets ads to you, but AFAIK, unlike, say, Facebook, they don't actually sell your data directly to others. That's because, believe it or not, it is precious to them. Whether or not I approve the business model is immaterial, but I reject the premise that Apple is capable of handling data better because their business isn't based on handling data. Seriously, doesn't that sound like a stupid claim?

...and people think Apple aficionados are delusional???

That's only because enough of them are that it's a thing.

Facts bitches!! Accept them, or hand in your geek card NOW!

http://www.abc15.com/news/nati...

http://www.judicialwatch.org/b...

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.c...

http://thinkprogress.org/immig...

http://www.theblaze.com/storie...

http://www.infowars.com/will-o...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ob...

The media used the term "anti-gov" types, patriots, and extreme right wingers. I didn't see any reference to neo-nazis. The media have gone out of it's way to link those terms with the tea party and you damn well that was the implication.

In any case, it turned out the right-wing "extremest" had nothing to do with the attack.

Also, show me the evidence of all the right wing nutjobs bombings and shootings and I can show you that the progressive nutjobs are just as bad
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/201...
http://www.theblaze.com/storie...
http://www.reuters.com/article...

Additionally, review the political beliefs of the person behind the Washington Navy Yard shooting and
Ted Kaczynski

Satanists Craft Religious Exemption Plan to Help Women Skirt Abortion Laws — and Here’s How They’re Using Hobby Lobby to Make Their Case

http://www.theblaze.com/storie...

Looks like it's total bunk to me. It's still being repeated as truth by some of the anti-Obama crowd, though.

Well, I certainly agree with most of your points (I normally do) but have to debate one particular omission from yours and GPs comments. Violence by Police departments has escalated drastically in the same time as criminal violence has gone down. Police brutality is close to a daily occurrence today, and not just the cops manhandling a suspected felon but outright killing people.

Sure, some of this happened in the past but not to the extremes we are seeing today.

This has a potentially rubber banding effect on society. Oppressed people surely don't take the same chances as a "Free" public, bottled up it becomes rather explosive.

When police are increasingly violent I have more concerns about them receiving this type of equipment. They surely don't need an MRAP for stopping people speeding on the freeway, so why have this type of gear?

Since this is not a new phenomenon (militarizing police that is) I have done a bit of homework. The first reason for them to gear up this way is that DHS is selling us back equipment that the military purchased for Iraq and Afghanistan. It's a boost to the MIC, and a nice way to double tax us for the same equipment. Yes, DHS sells them for less money but still are selling them to local police. The next reason is obviously a Rambo effect, where cops think they are "cool" in this type of gear. Lastly, and more of a concern than the two previous is that a majority of police training today is geared toward attacking the public. There have been ample leaks from DHS training materials showing this to be true. Military and Law Enforcement agencies are using material claiming that "Patriots" and "Tea Party" type groups are potential terrorists.

There are many good links to find in this page here, pay special attention to the retired Marine Colonel in the 2nd video. Enjoy.

America contains a large number of blacks. Frequently, anti-Americanism is just dog-whistle racism. The same people (usually white - are you white?) freely criticize America while ignoring that criticizing Obama is racist.

Not to mention, >8 of the 10 richest Congressional districts are represented by Democrats,

Link broke:

http://www.theblaze.com/storie...

Just the other day I was walking to my car at my university parking lot, and I noticed some unidentified civilian vehicle with scanners mounted front and back slowly driving by all the parked cars.

Probably the repo men, scanning to find vehicles to reposess.
http://betaboston.com/news/201...

Of course, they share their info with the police, too.
http://www.theblaze.com/storie...
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/ot...

Can you explain how a handgun is a defensive weapon? Does it prevent you from being shot like bullet proof vest??

In my opinion (and I guess I agree with at least some others), guns are offensive weapons: http://www.theblaze.com/storie...

From a practical perspective, I don't thiink a handgun or a rifle will do you very much good against the KGB. Oppressive regimes tend to have military dominance and unless private citizens own tanks and missile launchers (a recipe for disaster), nonviolent social change will have to be the avenue of reform at a citizen level.

Looked to me like a psychiatrist doesn't believe in the disease she was being treated for, and so considered the treatment abuse. The rest was the "natural result" of that. http://www.madinamerica.com/20... http://www.theblaze.com/storie... (just the first two links from my search, there are piles more)

Even having nothing to hide, and guilty of nothing, you are still target to confirmation bias. And a private joke could put you in deep troubles.

Hah, the girl who "Leans Forward" -- just like Fox's "Fair and Balanced" -- and spends her time attacking others. You do know that attacking is not news, right?

I've never seen her, but Bill O'Reily doesn't think she spends her time attacking others. I think I'll accept his view over yours.

"So you are turning off and removing the battery from your Cell Phone? No?"

Pretty soon, that won't matter either, with MIT developing wireless radios that rely on nothing other than power from the wireless signals floating all around us. That's why I use a Faraday Bag to put my devices in when I am not actively using them.

"And you are worried about your CAR?"

There, FTFY.

It's still my car. If I want my car's exact speed, location, route and destination being sent to anonymous, random strangers sharing the public roadway with me, I'll be the one who authorizes that data being sent outbound, thank you very much.

"They ALREADY can track you, even with out a warrant. It's called a stakeout and tailing somebody. They can watch you in public, any time they wish, no warrant required."

The major difference here, is that we can track them as well, and they aren't allowed to continue to track you, follow you onto private property without a warrant. They're also not allowed to illegally attach GPS devices to your vehicle, but they're doing that anyway too.

See the problem here?

"Finally, we get to the issue of government spying. Since every vehicle is transmitting its location, doesn't this mean that the government could track everybody, or gather other information about them? This is actually very unlikely. The development of V2V tech has been fairly hands-off on the government's part. Their primary contribution has been to lay down certain standards and requirements for the tech, and then let the commercial companies implement it."

Don't be ridiculous.

Within a hour of this being made a requirement, there will be installations on bridges, public roadways, intersections that will be capturing, gathering, storing, aggregating and mapping every single vehicle movement within city and rural limits.

Guaranteed!

This is an over-bearing, invasive government's wet dream. To know where everyone is at any one time, at all times, day or night? Absolutely this will be abused. They're already doing it now without our consent using our phones and surreptitiously installed GPS devices in our vehicles.

If you think for a nano-second that this is truly being developed to reduce the number of traffic accidents, you're being quite naive. You may be working on the technology, but that doesn't mean you understand the full implications of how it's targeted for use, or how it will ultimately be used when it becomes a reality.

There is absolutely no way this isn't going to get abused at the highest levels of Government.

Ah but it is a police state, just not one in which you're likely to be dragged from your bed in the middle of the night.

How about the summary IRS audits http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/cancer-patient-who-spoke-out-against-obamacare-now-being-audited/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/15/exclusive-prominent-catholic-prof-claims-irs-audited-her-after-speaking-out-against-obama-and-demanded-to-know-who-was-paying-her/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/10/02/dr_ben_carson_irs_targeted_me_after_i_spoke_out_against_obama.html

You can of course argue that the audits were scheduled anyways, but you will probably dismiss it. http://godfatherpolitics.com/13418/obama-orders-irs-shutdown-non-profits-speak/

The fact the Officer got a warrant makes me think that his supervisors / coworkers goaded him into it.

Or the officer just wanted to be a dick. I'm pretty sure judges don't even read warrant requests in the United States, they just stamp everything any officer hands them.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/05/what-began-as-a-mans-simple-traffic-stop-ended-in-an-unfathomable-12-hour-ordeal-that-is-almost-too-horrific-to-believe/

Naw, I'm pretty sure that parody has received strong legal recognition as funny, and completely harmless. America says "don't be such a pantywaist!"

OTOH, if the NSA can't protect it's data from rogue insiders ... maybe we should assume our tax returns were sold to the highest bidder long ago.

Who says they need to be sold? As of late they've been doing some strategic (and illegal) leaking:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/13/the-irs-admits-to-targeting-conservative-groups-but-were-they-also-leaking/
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/04/National-Organization-of-Marriage-Chairman-IRS-Leaked-Info-About-Group-s-Donors-to-Liberal-Groups
http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2013/06/04/report-irs-leaked-conservative-groups-confidential-info-to-opponents/

And yes... I did pick the partisan sites deliberately in this case.

The government shut down the same day the website went live but even more to the point, the site was already bought and paid for and the shut down did nothing to the funding for it.

President Barack Obama has made clear that even if the government closes, the health care show will go on

âoeShutdown or no shutdown weâ(TM)re ready to go,â Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said Monday.

Two quote on two politically opposite sites from top brass involved in the website that claim the shut down will have had no role in the roll out of the site. I'm sorry this busts your bubble. But it appears what you were told or thought is simple wrong.