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Mass surveillance hurts us all.
We ached for video phone calls for decades [...]
I don't know of anyone who wished for video calls or uses them now that webcam hardware is so commonly available. I know of people who go to some effort to disable video in their calls (apparently including Facebook chief Mark Zuckerberg who probably has access to a lot of webcams given how many people still use Facebook).
[...]but now that it's dead-easy we're all monkey about it. Grow up, humanity. Nobody cares about your mundane life.
Apparently the NSA and their many partners do, and trading data about people is very big business as well. The evidence from Ed Snowden alone is far more compelling than your summary and actually informative. Mass surveillance simply doesn't work as you claim. As Snowden, Greenwald, Poitras, and others have told us for years: mass surveillance is non-discriminatory. Data is collected en masse (NSA's strategy is "collect it all" not "collect some of the data"), decrypted, indexed, retained, and searched through later. The impression I got from Snowden's description was that much like someone using a web search engine, what's deemed interesting (what somebody "cares about") is decided at search time. So it's impossible to conclude that "Nobody cares about your mundane life" because the data you generate helps a lot of businesses every day. Another example is "LOVEINT"—people with access to this collected data using it to track what their love interests or spouses (current or former in both cases) are doing, perhaps another more clear-cut counterexample to your evidenceless claim.
As I write this your post is moderated "informative" but I can't find a single part of your post that points to any information or backs any of its claims with evidence.
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Re:He's probably correct
I'm not sure where you got the idea that the ocean releases a molecule (it is a molecule not an atom) of CO2 for every molecule absorbed. The oceans are actually a huge CO2 sink at the moment.
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Interesting article...
Came across this a while ago. Enjoy: https://www.theguardian.com/wo...
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Re:How about security?
Dunno 'bout that, if they don't need them, why do they keep asking for them?
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Re:Is this a good thing or a bad thing?
A lot of the flat earthers I've met are really just trolling other people.
Well Flat Earth Conventions and even cruises are a thing, so it's not just trolling. And the folks who attend these things genuinely seem to believe they are doing actual science, while proper peer-reviewed science is considered to be part of some grand conspiracy.
The problem with Youtube, in my experience, is with the recommendation system. I regularly get fringe political, pseudo-science, and conspiracy theory videos showing up as "Recommended for you"; even though they are in no way relevant what I'm watching or searching for.
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Re:True
Bill Shorten https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Likely to be Australia's Next Prime minister and most of his party are former Union Leaders and when they win the leader is either former union leader or union managemnt of some sort. While this may not be the case in the US we have a problem with unions in Australia https://www.theguardian.com/au... Note the US is one country on slashdot, the rest of the world is represented here also
Yes we have a problem with unions, but we would definitely be worse off without them. Going of the most recent royal commission we also have a problem with banks but we would be worse without them. And spoiler alert here but we have a problem with aged care in this country. It's pretty unfair to use the results of a royal commission, most of which have already been dealt with, to claim we have a major problem, they have proven quite crucial in dealing with hidden problems before they get too out of control to deal with.
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Re: No Bill...
(plus, if we don't do whatever the fuck he says, he might just install a Microsoft Windows powered Nuclear Power Plant in our backyard, jab us with Agenda 21 vaccines, and then force upon us free, live chickens to butcher and eat because obviously, we're savage heathens that have no appreciation for his technological superiority)
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Texbooks will never be obsolete
This only reveals how ignorant someone that thinks they are in the know can be.
Do we think stone tablets written in cuneiform are obsolete? No, they are priceless artifacts from history and highly valuable. Books are much the same thing just with a lower shelf life.
While there are some things that could become obsolete, often times folks like Bill are only calling them obsolete because they do not fit into their control of the market schemes. They would rather you put your copy of 1984 on your kindle than carry it around on paperback so they can take from you when someone decides you should not have it. https://www.theguardian.com/te...
Ironic!
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Re:Eighty Years?
Though it is unconstitutional, this is the sort of crime I think should be punishable by flogging. Say, one lash per human hour wasted--to be administered at medically-safe intervals over his lifetime at a lot less expense than imprisoning him.
2400 * 100 people inconvenienced for four hours a piece per incident (WAG) is almost a million man-hours wasted because of this guy. A year has just 8760 hours, so he took up 109 man-years of human activity.
This strikes me as both fair punishment and strong deterrence, but I won't be debating the point because I'm trying to finish A Clash of Kings this weekend.
Yup that sounds about right, "here is my opinion stated as facts but I won't listen to proof against me"
In the US prison is claimed to be a deterrence, yet everyone placed in prison is a data point against such a claim.
In some middle eastern countries flogging is a standard and common sentence also claimed to be a deterrence, yet with the exact same problem that there are plenty of data points showing it isn't.
The person you were replying to was commenting on the extent of the sentence, not so much the type.
More specifically that the extent (80 years aka life, vs 5-10) not to change any deterrence factor but to have a non-zero chance of getting a functional human being out at the end.I was originally going to mention that your suggestion of 8760 lashes is in essence a death sentence, something we in the US perform already for two specific crimes, so why all the fucking around with torture too?
But I looked it up, and not only has a Saudi Arabian judge sentence two men to 7000 lashes as recently as 2007 and they didn't die from it, but such insane and extended torture sentences are issued pretty commonly over there. They do 100 every week for months or years and there are thousands of such sentences each and every year.
So I guess I'll limit my response to just the deterrence factor. Let's see.
A 1500 lashing sentence didn't seem to deter a doctor from giving a princess a pain killer for an injury who happened to already be a junky drug addict.
A 200 lashing sentence didn't deter a 19 year old girl from being gang raped by 7 men.
A 7000 lashing sentence didn't deter two men from being gay either.
This is really the type of behavior and treatment you are wanting, all in the name of "it would be a good deterrence"
Why not just take the man up north a couple of states where they still refuse to criminalize burning people alive at the stake? Why not cut his feet off with a saw live on tv?
Why not an actual life sentence in prison? Not agonizing enough for your tastes? Even if you throw in the trope of prison rape?
Why not just say fuck it to any semblance of a legal system and suggest anyone should be allowed to torture and kill anyone else as they deem required?The very fact a single sheet of paper is, as you have stated, the ONLY thing keeping you from torturing others like this is frankly far more terrifying than the abuses that the US prison system has become.
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Re:Counter post
For peoplewho didn't get the sarcasm:
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Re:True
Bill Shorten https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Likely to be Australia's Next Prime minister and most of his party are former Union Leaders and when they win the leader is either former union leader or union managemnt of some sort. While this may not be the case in the US we have a problem with unions in Australia https://www.theguardian.com/au... Note the US is one country on slashdot, the rest of the world is represented here also
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Re:Wrong title. Renewable energy will not dominate
You didn't mentioned pumped hydro, which places like South Australia are doing in non-mountainous arid regions (not like the Austrian Alps) so that they can completely wean themselves off local gas and imported brown(!) coal electricity from Victoria.
https://www.theguardian.com/au...
https://www.tiltrenewables.com...
https://www.corrs.com.au/think...
Look how they already got rid of local coal completely 3 years ago, and now have 38% wind, and are increasing exports. https://opennem.org.au/#/regio... (click ALL) -
Re:Right
What happened in the last few years? The first few searches I got about China's working conditions, I get things from 2016, 17 talking about how conditions are still pretty horrible
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Re:China wins again!
California is much more built out than most of China and much less willing to use eminent domain and bullying to get land they need.
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Re:This the same woman
You are WRONG. And the fact that you don't admit you are wrong makes you a valid target for insults, because rationality doesn't work on you.
Well that's certainly persuasive. Would you care to start insulting my ancestral line next ?
But as to being right or wrong it's an interesting choice to place yourself on let's read from theTHE BOOK OF THE CLIMATE APOCALYPSE
James Hansen predicting Manhattan being underwater
https://www.salon.com/2001/10/...Or particularly ironic with the predictions of the end of snow
http://www.climatedepot.com/20...
https://www.theguardian.com/en...50 million climate refugees anyone ?
https://www.theguardian.com/en...For someone who bills themselves as an atheist you seem to have more blind faith than the typical millennial cultist and are considerably more dogmatic as well.
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Re:This the same woman
You are WRONG. And the fact that you don't admit you are wrong makes you a valid target for insults, because rationality doesn't work on you.
Well that's certainly persuasive. Would you care to start insulting my ancestral line next ?
But as to being right or wrong it's an interesting choice to place yourself on let's read from theTHE BOOK OF THE CLIMATE APOCALYPSE
James Hansen predicting Manhattan being underwater
https://www.salon.com/2001/10/...Or particularly ironic with the predictions of the end of snow
http://www.climatedepot.com/20...
https://www.theguardian.com/en...50 million climate refugees anyone ?
https://www.theguardian.com/en...For someone who bills themselves as an atheist you seem to have more blind faith than the typical millennial cultist and are considerably more dogmatic as well.
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When only the things you don't like are wrong
It's not science it's religion
b) This new paper couldn't possibly be wrong.
As opposed to James Hansen predicting Manhattan being underwater
https://www.salon.com/2001/10/...As Opposed to the end of winter snow ?
http://www.climatedepot.com/20...https://www.theguardian.com/uk...
Still waiting for the ice free arctic btw
As Opposed to the UN (you know the IPCC people) Predicting 50 million refugees from rising seas
https://www.theguardian.com/en...
That's another one where the original material has been taken down in embarrassment BTWAs opposed to Florida being scourged to the limestone by Hurricanes
As opposed to the Ice age we were going to be in
As opposed to the population bomb that had civilization collapsing by now
As opposed to the predictions that we would be out of oil, out of metals and out of just about everything by now.
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When only the things you don't like are wrong
It's not science it's religion
b) This new paper couldn't possibly be wrong.
As opposed to James Hansen predicting Manhattan being underwater
https://www.salon.com/2001/10/...As Opposed to the end of winter snow ?
http://www.climatedepot.com/20...https://www.theguardian.com/uk...
Still waiting for the ice free arctic btw
As Opposed to the UN (you know the IPCC people) Predicting 50 million refugees from rising seas
https://www.theguardian.com/en...
That's another one where the original material has been taken down in embarrassment BTWAs opposed to Florida being scourged to the limestone by Hurricanes
As opposed to the Ice age we were going to be in
As opposed to the population bomb that had civilization collapsing by now
As opposed to the predictions that we would be out of oil, out of metals and out of just about everything by now.
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Re:Cool
What you will also find there is that nuclear costs less in materials consumed
That must be why the EPR in UK will cost less than half as much as recent German solar... Oh, wait, it's the other way round? Never mind...
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Re:Five years may as well be forever
We have hard proof that the US has backdoors into hardware designed and made in the US. That's a fact, we know it with absolute certainty.
Citation needed.
Unlike you, I actually wanted such a citation, so I googled for "the US has backdoors into hardware designed and made in the US". I got back a pretty good hit but without citations, but it was from a story in 2013 so I appended 2013 to my search terms and found several good references. Also, let me take this opportunity to remind you to Never forget Qwest.
Maybe you're just terrible at googling, and need to work on that, but it seems more likely that your request for citations was disingenuous. If not, though, don't be so goddamned lazy.
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Re:Nobody knows what generates the magnetism
I can PROVE you are wrong:
Nougat is made with honey and egg whites. Lizards love honey and eggs. Thus, if there was a nougat center, the lizard people who live in the hollow Earth would have eaten it all, instead of coming up and mutilating our cattle.
Thus, it is complete proof - the presence of the lizard people inside the hollow Earth demands that it is not a nougat center. And referenced for you as well. QED.
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Re: That's a lot of people involved
To demonstrate who is actually the brainwashed idiot, consider this: Trump has, on at least 7 occasions, acknowledged that the climate is warming, and that humans likely play a role in that.
Citations please?
Oh never mind. Trump says lots of things and then says the opposite a short time later. His AGW stance has been a textbook example. He may have grudgingly accepted AGW on occasion, but his most emphatic pronouncements have been decidedly on the other side of the issue.
The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive. -- Donald J. Trump, 2012
Not enough? Okay:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world...
https://www.theguardian.com/us...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/1...
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Stupid lying Republican faggot problems, again? K.
"We OVERWHELMINGLY voted for the Republicans," - Lol? Overwhelming, but NOT even a MAJORITY is about as overwhelming as Trump's lies about his inaugural crowd, fact-checked in realtime. Traitor please bitch, lol
You lying faggots are even BAD at being lying faggots, lol.
captcha : taunted
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Hypocrisy
The current President of the United States of America described the EU as his country's "biggest foe globally". Why would one dispense advice to a foe? The US might as well counsel their new allies, such as Putin, who went to great lengths to help their current President get elected.
The United States are known to lie to their allies in order to promote their national interests, and for this reason their word has no value. Besides, they were caught doing exactly what they are now accusing the Chinese of: by preferring US gear to Chinese gear, Europe would be exchanging possible espionage with certain espionage. -
Re:And you're an idiot listening to denier echoes
You're wrong. The original quote was from the WWF, and they stated - with no factual basis - 2035. And the IPCC took it at face value, and admitted as much.
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Friendly local dealer
I just got an offer from my friendly local dealer: the first shot is free. Dunno if he said "heroine" or "crack" or what -- his language was a bit mushy.
Since it was free, I took it, of course.
I mean: facebook (and Zuckerberg, very personally) are real assholes. Last week he had a piece in Le Monde [1], The Wall Street Journal and other high-profile publications about how he wants to bring people together, blah, blah.
And about how he doesn't sell your data. Remember Cambridge Analytica? Money changed hands back then. How' that not "selling your data"?
Liar.
This guy gets prime-time in big journals for free to spew his outright lies.
While the fake news machine continues full-steam, with a couple of fig leaves as decoration [2].
Again: liar.
[1] Le Monde samedi 16 janvier 2019, Idées, p. 7
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Re:Why should we care?
I have not forgotten the lesson. Dont let the government price fix. Dont let politicians claim that its for the peoples own good while they get campaign donations from those ready to take advantage of it.
Wow, you not only have forgotten the lesson, it appears that you never knew the lesson to begin with.
The Enron disaster didn't occur because of "government price fix". It all blew up because Enron was manipulating markets after deregulation.
The disaster came from Enron's illegal goddamn behavior. People went to prison over it.
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Re:But wait, there's more...
Well, here. There are plenty more from plenty of various sources. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/2...
https://www.recode.net/2019/1/...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/busine...
https://www.newsweek.com/amazo...
https://www.kare11.com/article...
https://www.vox.com/2018/7/16/...
https://www.theguardian.com/te...
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
https://www.businessinsider.co...
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Dangerous chips
... like they will send all Angela Merkel's nude images to the NSA, trigger all WMDs in Iraq, and make you hyper paranoia if you are not already.
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Re:Geothermal
Nuclear is location specific too. Not just because of NIMBY. You need a large supply of water for cooling.
Location isn''t a problem. You can use HVDC transmission to get the electricity to where you need it. Geothermal is a lot better choice right now because it takes so long for a nuclear plant to be built and it's so expensive to build one.
The other week the UK had a set back on their nuclear plant building plans when Hitachi pulled out of building a £16bn plant in Wales. Hitachi also shelved a second plant that they were supposed to build too. There was a third plant that Toshiba scrapped last year.
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Re:LOL?
What's so funny, dude?
Yes, the people of Mexico should have a proper level of concern if there is an outbreak of illness among their northern neighbors that could affect them.
It's funny because of all the racist rhetoric in the US about "dirty Mexicans" bringing in diseases.
And yes, it's perfectly appropriate to "LOL" about serious issues.
What's inappropriate is laughing at the suffering of others or using humour to disguise offensive views.
But using humour to point out a particular racist argument is flawed? That's perfectly legit.
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Re:Obviously Fake News
The problem with renewable energy is not so much the price to do so but the cost of not running non renewable energy.
... you need enough standby generation to cover those low days and they are going to get paid if they run or not.THIS. I'd upvote you to 6 but I don't have any points, never mind cascading points.
All these guys with renewables forget they're not 100% dependable and unless you want to be in the dark you need a backup source ready to go within seconds, not construction years. And 10x overproduction is great, but at night none of the solar banks are busy. I want an average load-out with peaks, but I've got variable input that ranges from 0-200%. NOT the same thing.It's kind of interesting what tesla is doing in Australia
THAT. Besides pushing trains or water uphill or spinning wheels or compressing air, that's the only innovation I've heard in a long time. And they're doing it with millisecond quantity, not just supporting a hospital or single neighborhood. (30,000 homes for an hour.)
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Re:Normally yes, but not in the era of Obama's...
completely corrupt DOJ and FBI which never prosecuted any process crimes related to Hillary (which would have required them to prosecute Obama who lied about not knowing about her private email server WHILE USING IT USING AN ALIAS). The Democrats and the establishment Republicans in Washington who all despise Trump have repeatedly told him they will impeach him if he "interferes" in the Obama team investigation of him, therefore Trump has been unable to do what all presidents before him have done: take control of the DOJ. We are still living under the Obama DOJ, with the "Trump appointees" being selected from a pool of Obama holdovers.
We're on very dangerous ground here:
[a] Our system was not designed to have "special prosecutors" who are under the executive branch and yet not under control of the chief executive - Meuller is the most powerful and most unaccountable man on the planet right now, and he clearly likes it. Any future person named to such a post could be worse than Stalin.Apart from the fact that Obama did send emails to Hillary's private server under an alias, this is all howling revisionist madness. First of all, the DOJ is NOT supposed to be under the "control" of the president. It's supposed to be almost entirely independent with the president having a very limited power to hire and fire a few key roles, which if done under the wrong circumstances could constitute obstruction of justice. You seem to think the USA was designed like a banana republic where law enforcement is under the direct command of the head of state - you're dead wrong.
Also the idea that Mueller is the most powerful and unaccountable man on the planet is shitgibbon lunacy. He's hardly any more unaccountable or powerful than any high-level US prosecutor. He has to work within the law and because a sitting president can't be indicted, his report will have no more power over the president than a strongly-worded letter as long as he's in office. He's not a rogue warlord throwing people in cages on a whim.
[b] If the public gets the idea that the establishment folks in DC can nullify any election and destroy any non-beltway non-insider who gets elected, the public may lose all faith in the federal government. There lies the path to something nobody should want to see: armed rebellion in a nation where over 300 million guns are in private hands and many of those gun owners are not only gun owners but also ex-military and capable of making ammunition and more guns.
Obama may have truly carried out his biggest campaign promise to "fundamentally transform" the United States of America.
Trump's election actually greatly reaffirmed my faith in the integrity of the US elections process. If there were any shadowy figures pulling strings in the background, they wouldn't have let such a dangerous idiot get anywhere close to the Presidency. And what did Obama do to create this situation? The DOJ functions the same now as it did before. He put a registered Republican in charge of it. Agent Orange is a career white-collar criminal who surrounded himself with other career white-collar criminals and they all continued to commit crimes, then they stepped right into the crosshairs of the targeting system for white-collar criminal investigations, the media outrage machine. And now they're going to get what's coming to them. Hillary is only a slick supercrook in right-wing imaginations, but Trump is a slick supercrook in real life.
Good luck with that armed rebellion. The US has too many guns in too many hands, yes, but it's still not a lot of hands for so many guns. Point 'em at the world's most advanced and oversized military, I'll get the popcorn.
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Re:Facebook Is Like The Oil Companies Of OldTalking of investors, it was interesting the facebook devs used 'boiler room' terminology (whales) to describe the high-spending children:
Court documents obtained by the US-based Center for Investigative Reporting, initially sealed as part of a lawsuit filed in 2012, revealed Facebook staff discussed what to do with the "whales" , as they referred to the high-spending children, before deciding to refuse refunds.
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Re:The end is in sight?
Surely the corporate masters won't allow the patent system to shut down.
On top of this, surely the guys flying their private jets around wouldn't like air-traffic to get grounded or for themselves to get in an accident? Just read today that many air-traffic controllers are now working second jobs out of necessity leading to sleep deprivation which sounds like the perfect combination of factors for some massive fuckups to happen. And that's what they're saying. Trump is playing with lives here.
“We cannot even calculate the level of risk currently at play, nor predict the point at which the entire system will break,”
I'm so glad right now that I'm not American because this shit is insane to follow even from the outside. Like, the government is essentially using close to a million people as slave labor right now and putting actual lives at risk because the guy in charge is a dude with the brain of a toddler that wants a massively expensive wall that will do nothing. I mean hell, didn't it just come to light in the el Chapo trial that the cartels are using planes, self-made submarines and tunnels to smuggle stuff in? And isn't it public knowledge at this point that most people who're in the US illegally have entered there legally? How many American lives is this shit worth? Because this keeps going and people will die as a result, that should be clear.
This shouldn't be a partisan issue at all. Like for fuck's sake Republicans: let Trump throw his tantrum about the wall and any other shit as much as you want, but do it without trying to actively ruin the finances and lives of hundreds of thousands of people. Why do they insist on letting him hold the country hostage? I thought there was supposed to be checks and balances. To top of the idiocy the republicans themselves don't want the wall, they could have passed the funding for that prior to the elections but they didn't, so what the fuck is this shit? They're letting a man-baby hold the entire government hostage for what, exactly? Are they this fucking spineless? Because it sure seems that way.
Of all of the outright moronic shit the Solarium Sultan with 'a very good brain' has said and done is this clusterfuck of a presidency, this shit takes the cake. This is beyond idiotic, and I hope you guys now that the longer this goes on, the more you're being laughed at abroad, because at this point it's the only thing left to do. It's absurd, and for the sake of the Americans I know and care about, I really hope you guys get your shit together, because this is some truly dangerous banana republic level bullshit. I expect this from like an African or a south American country, not the fucking US of A.
And what perfect country do you live in? I would love to add your country to the "do not protect" list.
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Re:The end is in sight?
Surely the corporate masters won't allow the patent system to shut down.
On top of this, surely the guys flying their private jets around wouldn't like air-traffic to get grounded or for themselves to get in an accident? Just read today that many air-traffic controllers are now working second jobs out of necessity leading to sleep deprivation which sounds like the perfect combination of factors for some massive fuckups to happen. And that's what they're saying. Trump is playing with lives here.
TCAS II and EGPWS will prevent most of the problems. Corporate jet pilots are used to calling out positions on the unicom frequency at untowered airports. A few years ago, a tower controller fell asleep and everything was fine. You'll see the airlines reduce the number of flights before the whole system goes tits up, but the corporate guys will be fine.
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Re:The end is in sight?
Surely the corporate masters won't allow the patent system to shut down.
On top of this, surely the guys flying their private jets around wouldn't like air-traffic to get grounded or for themselves to get in an accident? Just read today that many air-traffic controllers are now working second jobs out of necessity leading to sleep deprivation which sounds like the perfect combination of factors for some massive fuckups to happen. And that's what they're saying. Trump is playing with lives here.
“We cannot even calculate the level of risk currently at play, nor predict the point at which the entire system will break,”
I'm so glad right now that I'm not American because this shit is insane to follow even from the outside. Like, the government is essentially using close to a million people as slave labor right now and putting actual lives at risk because the guy in charge is a dude with the brain of a toddler that wants a massively expensive wall that will do nothing. I mean hell, didn't it just come to light in the el Chapo trial that the cartels are using planes, self-made submarines and tunnels to smuggle stuff in? And isn't it public knowledge at this point that most people who're in the US illegally have entered there legally? How many American lives is this shit worth? Because this keeps going and people will die as a result, that should be clear.
This shouldn't be a partisan issue at all. Like for fuck's sake Republicans: let Trump throw his tantrum about the wall and any other shit as much as you want, but do it without trying to actively ruin the finances and lives of hundreds of thousands of people. Why do they insist on letting him hold the country hostage? I thought there was supposed to be checks and balances. To top of the idiocy the republicans themselves don't want the wall, they could have passed the funding for that prior to the elections but they didn't, so what the fuck is this shit? They're letting a man-baby hold the entire government hostage for what, exactly? Are they this fucking spineless? Because it sure seems that way.
Of all of the outright moronic shit the Solarium Sultan with 'a very good brain' has said and done is this clusterfuck of a presidency, this shit takes the cake. This is beyond idiotic, and I hope you guys now that the longer this goes on, the more you're being laughed at abroad, because at this point it's the only thing left to do. It's absurd, and for the sake of the Americans I know and care about, I really hope you guys get your shit together, because this is some truly dangerous banana republic level bullshit. I expect this from like an African or a south American country, not the fucking US of A.
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Re:Don't worry, Julian
Assangniks are interesting types. Back in 2011, when they still liked Assange, the Guardian reported:
"They were coerced, either by physical force or they were trapped into a situation where they had no choice," Montgomery [lawyer for the Swedish prosecution Authority] said. "AA says in her case the prelude to the offence was Mr Assange ripping her clothes off, breaking her necklace, her trying to get dressed again and then letting him undress her." He then had sex with her after pinning her arms and trying to force her legs apart to insert his unprotected penis, which she did not want, she said."
Either the Swedes lied in an official Court filing, or they actually have sworn testimony from AA that he tried to force her legs apart. And yet pointing that out is "trolling" according to three of you.
And it's not like this particular fact should change your opinion on whether he should be in jail. The CIA is not gonna set up a honey rap with a fake rape charge that does not include some truly terrible allegations about their victim. If it's not a fake rape charge or orchestrated by the CIA then the allegations must be terrible or the Swedes would not have bothered pursing him as far as London.
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Re:Don't worry, Julian
Assangniks are interesting types. According to the Guardian in 2011, AKA back when they liked Assange:
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Re:Don't worry, Julian
The CIA was looking to character assassinate him by any means necessary. First they sent in a CIA plant (Daniel Domscheit-Berg) to undermine Wikileaks from the inside and to advance to the narrative that Assange was just a selfish narcissist. And then they set up a blatantly obvious honeypot operation in Sweden to implicate him as a rapist too. It's the same shit they pulled on Dominique Strauss-Kahn when he was foolish enough to challenge the supremacy of the U.S. dollar (and that they've pulled on many others too).
Now is the part where you call me a conspiracy theorist, just like all the people who have been called nuts for daring to suggest that this whole Sweden/UK fiasco was just theatre to to get Assange extradited to the U.S. all along. But it's not really a conspiracy theory when they're really out to get you, is it?
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Re:Hmm...I just can't think of an example...
I hope you are correct. Unfortunately the humidity issue is real. It's a simple extension from the linked data to assume these changes will cause mass refugee crises around the world. resouces are limited now and are probably the main reason most wars are fought. Combine mass migration with resource destabilizing climate and it could easily trigger war. This is going to be the most problematic with any nuclear powers that think they have nothing to lose anymore. I'm pretty sure the UAE and the Saudis are going to get hit really hard, and become a wasteland. Hope they don't get nuclear capabilities.
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Re:Europe couldn't even scramble planes to bomb Li
Europe couldn't even scramble planes to bomb Libya...and they want to try to do something in space again? https://www.theguardian.com/wo... https://www.nytimes.com/2011/0... "Libya has been a war in which some of the Atlantic alliance’s mightiest members did not participate, or did not participate with combat aircraft, like Spain and Turkey.
...the French finally pulled back their sole nuclear-powered aircraft carrier for overdue repairs and Italy withdrew its aircraft carrier to save money. Only eight of the 28 allies engaged in combat, and most ran out of ammunition, having to buy, at cost, ammunition stockpiled by the United States."Interesting logic, Europe's space program sucks because an unspecified set of countries ran out of ammo over Lybian in 2011. For one thing the major players here were the UK and the French, the Germans bowed out anticipating what a FUBAR Lybia would become. The French who make their own bombs and ammo, they have not relied on the US for their aircraft munitions in a major way for a long time (and for a very good reason) and I know for a fact that the French did not deplete their stockpiles in 2011. That leaves the UK and a bunch of countries that buy their jets from the US on US military assistance programs. The US deliberately keeps such countries on a starvation diet of munitions and parts. On top of that all repairs to certain system parts on F-16s for example have to be done by US citizens flown in especially for the purpose which, as you can imagine, is a very slow and inefficient process. The Finns for example, bought their own F-18 fleet outright, and were thus able to rip out several of these untouchable black boxes and replace them with something they could fix themselves which had a correspondingly positive effect on operational readiness. On top of that the EF Typhoon was, at the time, still being introduced into service and not upgraded to perform A2G missions, forcing the RAF for one to rely on the Tornado which was beginning to be phased out at the time. But all this aside, remind me again why this has anything to do with ESA and the European space program??
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Re:More Like Crack
Surveillance Capitalism
https://www.theguardian.com/te...The headline story is that it’s not so much about the nature of digital technology as about a new mutant form of capitalism that has found a way to use tech for its purposes. The name Zuboff has given to the new variant is “surveillance capitalism”. It works by providing free services that billions of people cheerfully use, enabling the providers of those services to monitor the behaviour of those users in astonishing detail – often without their explicit consent.
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Re:Black Lives Don't Matter
America's high prison rate is not just a "race issue".
The UK has an incarceration rate 7 times higher for blacks than whites.
Australia has an incarceration rate 10 to 15 times higher for aboriginals than others (around 4% of adult males, similar to US blacks).The US has a relatively low ratio of black:other imprisonment rate, 4 to 1, and there is no evidence of systemic racism in this number.
The real problem is the very high rate for the entire population!(Which is not to say that poor young black males do not suffer disproportionately.)
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Oddly...
...the story doesn't mention anything about subsidies and/or tariffed rates. Is this that rarest of beasts, unique in all the world, a commercial wind turbine installation built for the purpose of generating a profit?
Of course not! https://www.theguardian.com/en...
"The Scottish government warned this week that if Westminster ruled out allowing onshore windfarms in the Western Isles, Orkney and Shetland to compete for subsidies, £2.5bn of investment would be put at risk."
Anyone who's worried that wind and solar power will have their morally elevated "sustainability" marred by fiscal sustainability can relax.
By the way, I wonder what wind and solar (and tidal in the case of the Orkenys) has done to the cost of electricity?
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Re:A Communist constitution
There is Google, you know. Since the USA is too easy as a target, I'd point out the Philip Cross affair (as a reminder, Jimbo Wales is married with Christine Rohan, Tony Blair's former secretary), then the Australian Government editing spree, and finally the Zionist editing courses.
Besides propaganda, a good starting point on the truthfulness of Wikipedia would be 10 Most Notorious Wikipedia Editing Scandals, outdated, bust still good. -
Re:Socialism, falsifiedConsidering how badly the government has screwed up the parts that it nationalized perhaps the small bits of private enterprise (and black markets) are probably all that's keeping it afloat. Of course, even with private enterprise, it doesn't matter when the Venezuelan government implements price controls and those business close shop or cut production if they can't fight back.
There are estimates that about three million people have fled the country because of how bad it is there. That's closing in on about 10% of the population in the last three years. All of this economic interference from the government has made it impossible for many people to live in Venezuela.So does this mean that Venezuela has proven capitalism to be bankrupt?
You would have to explain why countries like Vietnam and China that instituted capitalist reforms to move away from their even more socialistic policies have seem massive growth instead of downward collapse. Shouldn't the U.S. which is also a capitalist country have collapsed in a similar manner to Venezuela? Why aren't Hong Kong and Singapore the most deplorable little capitalist hellholes on the planet given that they some of the freest markets on the planet?
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Re:Socialism, falsified
Sorry, but you don't seem to know what you're talking about. The government took over the economy and the current result is not only predicable, it was predicted by those opposed to socialism, i.e. "For more than a decade people opposed to the government of Venezuela have argued that its economy would implode." was written in 2013.
Those in favor of socialism went on and on about how wonderful Venezuelan socialism was for people.
A "weak central government" doesn't nationalize huge parts of the economy, including all the most essential industries, like Venezuela had. That's (coincidentally, I'm sure...) when those industries then fell apart and stopped being able to produce nearly as much. A "weak central government" doesn't set wage and price controls with rationing and trying to make the government the sole provider for food.
All the attempts at having the government run the economy have ended the same way. It's not something which is even controversial among economists anymore. It's been proven by repeated experiment.
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Re:Yes
https://www.theguardian.com/wo...
Yep, here's something to start with. The DEA thugs that murdered innocent people in Honduras should have been put on trial over there and ended up in front of a firing squad.
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Re:I'm struggling
From my view, you are just making stuff up here.
Well, the funny thing about facts is that they don't require people to believe them.
But no, we have to take 3 years of foaming at the mouth, outlandish accusations that don't have ANY basis in law or fact
What's with all the extremes? We have plenty of evidence. You've said yourself we knew who he was before the election. There's plenty of evidence of him lying. One great piece of evidence is how he'll say one thing one day, and then the opposite another day. They can't both be true.
I mean, some things are factual, others less so, some have a lot of evidence, others less so, it's not all about extremes. It's not all or nothing. There is plenty of basis in fact.
Like firing James Comey is somehow obstruction of justice
Why is that ludicrous? Comey was in charge of the FBI and its investigations. Trump LITERALLY SAID ON TV that he fired him in part because of the Russia investigations. If Trump is one of the subjects of those investigations, how exactly is that not obstruction? And you're saying it's "ludicrous?"
I'm getting a huge sense that people in this country are living in different realities, I'm sure you feel it too.
repeating the unfounded charges as if they where facts
He fucking said it in an interview with Lester Holt! What the fuck? This is crazy shit man, now you're trying to gaslight me too. "No, that never happened, he never said that. What you remember isn't what happened, let me tell you what happened instead." How about "no"? Does "no" work for you?
and pointing your crooked fingers
Hold on, why are my fingers crooked? It makes you feel better if you believe I'm some sort of monster, or somehow corrupt or sub-human, doesn't it?
The truth is that you and your leaders just don't like him, want to get rid of him
While I do feel those things about him, who exactly are my leaders? Do they have crooked fingers too? They probably don't love the country also, right? We're probably not even human, are we?
being reasonable or even factual about it doesn't matter
It matters a great deal, actually, more than most other things. Which is why it's so tiring to fight against this revisionist gaslighting with people trying to convince us that things that we saw and heard didn't actually happen.
How this whole campaign is really an appeal to anger that has to keep advancing the level of outrage because the voters are growing tired of being angry?
Oh come on, it's none of that. It's the news selling news, that's all it is. They need something to talk about, and Trump gives them shit to talk about all goddamn day, every day. That's all it is. The bigger picture, Trump actually getting removed, is up to Mueller's report and whatever Congress decides to do. In the absence of Mueller's report, people whose job it is to go on TV and talk will talk about whatever they want, but ultimately what matters is the result of that investigation.
Eventually this won't work anymore, the shrill voices will have deafened all the ears that matter.
Yeah, that's happening now, look at your shrill voice trying to convince me that things which happened did not happen. It's all over the place, I can't listen to some of the damn shows on CNN because all it is is a bunch of assholes trying to talk over each other. That doesn't change the facts though. It doesn't change what actually happened, and Trump or you or anyone else trying to convince us that things which happened did not actually happen aren't going to change the facts. It's not going to change Mueller's report.