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Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Something big is happening. Maybe the collective stupidity and arrogance of SCO execs reached a critical mass and the whole company just imploded into a black hole of stupidity. Or may be their IT staff is in open revolt. Go, SCO geeks, go!

Eric S. Raymond gets mad SCO - and his rant sounds like that of a drunken, militant gun-nut.

They're moving MSN Messenger exclusively to a new protocol and requiring a license for everyone else . So no, it's not just a matter of being on the newer protocol, it's a matter of dealing with a license written by MS lawyers.

Actually, they're requiring a license for MSN Messenger too (naturally). Here's an article about the license!

From the license:
Replacement, Modification or Upgrade of the Software
Microsoft reserves the right to replace, modify or upgrade the SOFTWARE at any time by offering you a replacement or modified version of the SOFTWARE or such upgrade and to charge for such replacement, modification or upgrade.

In the event that Microsoft offers a replacement or modified version of or any upgrade to the SOFTWARE, (a) your continued use of the SOFTWARE is conditioned on your acceptance of such replacement or modified version of or upgrade to the SOFTWARE and any accompanying superseding EULA, and (b) in the case of replacement or modified SOFTWARE, your use of all prior versions of the SOFTWARE is terminated.

TERMINATION: ... Microsoft may terminate this EULA by offering you a superseding EULA for the SOFTWARE or any replacement or modified version of or upgrade to the SOFTWARE and conditioning your continued use of the SOFTWARE or such replacement, modified or upgraded version on your acceptance of such superseding EULA.

speak about costs, what will they charge you for using MSN? Read this. If this works, hotmail will follow. Many people will get an alternative, but many will just pay.

Profit! for MS, not for their customers.

Modding that one up shows a major failure of the moderation system.

FREE??? Hardly! Microsoft is forcing people to upgrade, (the old version will stop working), and those fools who do will really get screwed by the new EULA - From this article "By clicking on the new agreement, users promise to pay for future upgrades and to acquire future chargeable upgrades whether they're wanted or unwanted." You agree to pay for upgrades, and the upgrade price isn't even stated (or limited!)

Free now, but by clicking you agree to pay whatever they demand later!

Offtopic here but what is with the parenthetical expression after you cite The Inquirer? This isn't the first time I have seen this. I can only think many people confuse them with The Enquirer and that is why they groan when citing the site as a reference. As far as I know there is no relation, one is a British web site on tech news and the other is an American tabloid. Is The Inquirer a bad source or something?

Offtopic here but what is with the parenthetical expression after you cite The Inquirer? This isn't the first time I have seen this. I can only think many people confuse them with The Enquirer and that is why they groan when citing the site as a reference. As far as I know there is no relation, one is a British web site on tech news and the other is an American tabloid. Is The Inquirer a bad source or something?

According to The Inquirer (yeah I know but bear with me), it looks like it could possibly be a security measure for their bottom line.

EULA snippet:

Replacement, Modification or Upgrade of the Software
Microsoft reserves the right to replace, modify or upgrade the SOFTWARE at any time by offering you a replacement or modified version of the SOFTWARE or such upgrade and to charge for such replacement, modification or upgrade.

In the event that Microsoft offers a replacement or modified version of or any upgrade to the SOFTWARE, (a) your continued use of the SOFTWARE is conditioned on your acceptance of such replacement or modified version of or upgrade to the SOFTWARE and any accompanying superseding EULA, and (b) in the case of replacement or modified SOFTWARE, your use of all prior versions of the SOFTWARE is terminated.

TERMINATION: ... Microsoft may terminate this EULA by offering you a superseding EULA for the SOFTWARE or any replacement or modified version of or upgrade to the SOFTWARE and conditioning your continued use of the SOFTWARE or such replacement, modified or upgraded version on your acceptance of such superseding EULA.

Microsoft's IM letter means you agree to pay and upgrade

END USERS OF Microsoft's Instant Messenger software that got multiple copies of a mail advising them to upgrade yesterday need to read the fine print of the firm's terms and conditions most carefully.

The end user licence agreement (EULA) for the new version of Instant Messenger has some clauses that suggest changes are afoot in the way Microsoft deals with this popular little software item.

By clicking on the new agreement, users promise to pay for future upgrades and to acquire future chargeable upgrades whether they're wanted or unwanted.

Read on...

...

What does this mean? It could mean that Microsoft may charge fees whenever it wants, and that you also have to stop using the software if the firm decides.

Always read the fine print. If Microsoft addes this particular clause to operating systems, everyone might be forced to utter "Hail Palladium" when the push came to shove.

Guess what happened!

Boies himself skipped the SCOForum despite being on the Agenda.

except blaster would be a reason to get a patch out sooner, not later. Plus theres the rumor over at The Inquirer that states theres a mini-sp or sp1a that could come out in a few weeks (because of blaster).

What is the power consumption of the G5 processors?

The upcoming P4 3.4GHz is going to consume 103 WATTS.

Intel document confirms Prescott dissipates 103 W

Oh yeah cheap Thai WinXP without product activation story at the inquirer.

Microsoft pre-beta Windows for AMD64 available(to resellers)

Opteron 246 Overclocking Benchmarks

At least they didn't claim it was Microsoft straight away. By the way TheInquirer thinks it was LovSan / Slammer

If they can win this case, wouldn't it be feasible for small hunks of SCO Unix itself to fall under copyright weirdness, too? The Inquirer article makes the same point:

"If SCO's pleaders win this one, then surely it is guilty of massive copyright infringement too? And if they do, then surely it must apply to BSD and Apache style licences as well?"

So what's the point of doing this? The only thing I can come up with is that SCO wants to invalidate the existence of gpl'ed software in some convoluted attempt to make themselves look better.

It would be a VERY good idea for the GCC people to follow up on this. Remember Christian Hellweg that worked for Caldera and is responsible for a lot of the SCO stuff inside Linux.

If no "agreement" exist now with SCO maintaining their portion of the GCC, this can be used to make a strong point for Helweg doing what his company wanted later. If they, as I suspect, sue Hellweg, at some point to make the point he is in collusion with IBM.

TheInquirer had a story yesterday about Caldera and Linux

Their office was open when you called ? Isn't it like.. 5 - 6 am there at the moment ?
Can anyone else confirm this...?

Looks like this parent pade it to the Inquirer as well...

Too bad you can't get replacement Fujitus anymore, as they *all* die. I have a 20GB doorstop on top of my desk right now. There's also an American class action lawsuit against Fujitsu.

"SOURCES FORMERLY WITHIN HP have told the INQUIRER that its outsourcing plans have cost the company several loyal corporate customers with lost business running into very large figures indeed.

Information provided to the INQUIRER by several hired, fired, re-hired, extended, re-trenched, begged back and eventually fired again sources in HP Australia, claim that the firm's plans to outsource support has cost the firm dear."

Full text here.

Best info I see on that is here, or possibly here, which doesn't quite dispel the "rumor"-ness of it (sorry).

I bet he's gone. I almost feel a little sorry for him -- you can bet he will be in court for awhile. I wonder whose side he will testify for?

The Athlons were known for "watt gluttony". Now the Pentium4s and above are as bad or much much worse ("Intel confirms Prescott does dissipate 100W"). Please everyone, update your jokes accordingly.

Directly on topic: I thought the article could have used at least one cheap "no-name-we-have-no-idea-who-manufactured-this" PSU in the tests.

Ask that Lindows guy... Oh, you can't, he's been on Ask Slashdot recently and won't be here anytime soon, busy donating cash to Mozdev or funding some other Xbox Linux prize.

1. "SCO, as Caldera, has indeed contributed to the Linux kernel, and its contributions are included in modules containing GPL notices." -- Eben Moglen

these guys will "solder" your heatsink to your substrate. To be released in 2004.

I found this in this article:
A better thermal interface, 70.0W/mK

Build it yourself and you can be (resonably) certain of there being no "surprise" features like sending data back to the AOL Mothership, or a DRM "upgrade" deciding that you should no longer be able to play back previous recordings. Given the extent to which some Linux distros have improved in ease of installation, it shouldn't be too much longer before a bootable CD-ROM with a complete Freevo setup becomes available.

Quite funny, bit of perspective....

There was a funny article in the inquirer today about how long it would take the RIAA to sue all filesharers in America.

RIAA will take 2191.78 years to sue everyone

The inq have a story wondering if just the two mentioned super computers worth of opterons sold have allready outsold the itanics.

A corporation can buy, trade, sell and make loans. A corporation can literally do anything you as a person can do as long as these thoughts and actions are simply documented by resolution. When you think it through, the possibilities become fascinating. The key point to remember here, is that when you own a corporation, the corporation exists as a separate entity or person.

If they were bringing suit against Microsoft for the same thing, it would be foolish to buy Windows.

Something like this, perhaps?

LinuxTag in Germany has gotten an injunction that makes a German equivalent of the Monday conference call illegal. Open Source Victoria has made a formal complaint to their government. When are 'We the People' in the US going to at least try to get an official requirement that SCO have to put up or shut up and be dismissed as FUDsters?

Maybe your grandkids will be lucky and get into the India's future version of the H1B program to encourage tech workers to move and work there. :)

Seriously, there will always be a need for a highly skilled and highly educated workforce.

In case you're interested, here are some more links about this and other related issues that we have seen before.

Leaked: IBM Execs Urge Moving Jobs Offshore in Internal Teleconference

An internal recording of an IBM teleconference about moving jobs offshore was leaked (Google) to the New York Times by an upset employee. From the article: '...under increasing pressure to cut costs and build global supply networks... I.B.M. needed to accelerate its efforts to move white-collar, often high-paying, jobs overseas even though that might create a backlash among politicians and its own employees. "Our competitors are doing it and we have to do it," said Tom Lynch, I.B.M.'s director for global employee relations. He also said that 3 million service jobs were expected to shift to foreign workers by 2015 (based on a Forrester Research report, which represents about 2 percent of all American jobs) and that I.B.M. should move some of its jobs now done in the United States, including software design jobs, to India and other countries. Oracle plans to increase its jobs in India to 6,000 from 3,200, while Microsoft plans to double the size of its software development operation in India to 500 by late this year. Accenture has 4,400 workers in India, China, Russia and the Philippines.' Critics say 'schools will stop producing the computer engineers and programmers we need for the future' as a result of these moves. Listen to the IBM recording in Real format (direct link at pnm://audio.nytimes.com/audiosrc/2003/07/21/busine ss/20030722jobs.audio.rm). More at the SJMN, Inquirer, and CNN/Reuters. Slashdot has discussed Global competition, offshore outsourcing, lower cost replacement workers and the ensuing legal turmoil before.

To paraphrase from the movie Jerry Maguire:
It's not technology friends, It's technology business.

... now they own the Internet! The chumps that pay them for using Linux are just putting out a honeypot for every scam artist in the world.

Yeah, this all relates to the Government's plan to continually screw the working class over and make the CEO's even richer:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10595

...IBM GXP deathstar drives, for many months to possibly even over a year, after everyone else exposed these drives for what they are, and after they were given a heads up on more than one occasion to pull their head out of the sand.

...IBM GXP deathstar drives, for many months to possibly even over a year, after everyone else exposed these drives for what they are, and after they were given a heads up on more than one occasion to pull their head out of the sand.

By that logic, SCO has no case. To most people, if it isn't Windows it doesn't exist.

They could throw out some nice, Judge-convincing BS like "We only made these files available via the 'FTP' program, which is only for highly advanced technical individuals such as corporate IT managers, for the convenience of our paying customers. It was not intended for download by unlicensed individuals, and in fact doing so constitutes hacking as per the terms of the DMCA..."

Unless reading security advisories from LinuxSecurity.com constitutes "hacking", I don't see that argument as particularily convincing. SCO posted the kernel on their FTP server May 9th. A Linux kernel developer told SCO about it a month ago. Links to the story were posted on many popular news sites. The code is still there.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10595

US government "shafting working Americans"

CAFTA bill could lose jobs at home

By INQUIRER staff: Monday 21 July 2003, 11:51

A REPORT FROM ginger group ZaZona claims that a practically unnoticed agreement that will endorse free trade agreements with Singapore and Chile is the thin end of what could turn into an "Armageddon" for US workers.
According to the newsletter ZaZona distributes, the CAFTA agreements currently under discussion in Congress, with Chile and Singapore, mean that a "W" visa will allow nearly 7,000 people from these countries to work in the US indefinitely.

But, Zazonaeditor Rob Sanchez claims, in addition to the 5,400 visas Singapore will get under the deal, it will be able to send "unlimited" numbers of workers to the US.

The free trade agreement means that US employers no longer have to prove that jobs cannot be performed by an American citizen.

According to ZaZona, George W. Bush says on his web site that Singapore is working on free trade agreements with Japan, Canada, Australia, Mexico and India.

The editor of the newsletter claims that means Singapore will act like a virtual black hole, and its "immense gravity will pull people into a wormhole that ends at the United States".

He adds: "Bush is celebrating 'Christmas in July' by giving a huge present to his inner circle of power brokers and CEOs while shafting working Americans".

Sanchez told the INQUIRER that the whole problem is not being fairly discussed in the United States press.

He says that Dianne Feinstein, the doyenne of the sound bite, has hit out against the proposed free trade agreements on her web site, but, unusually, she's getting little press on the matter.

He added: "It appears that US politicians have decided not to discuss these two FTAs in public. They don't want the public to find out until it is approved. One day the American public will wake up and realize they have been hoodwinked - but they won't be able to change it".

...will quite probably never be removed from power

Lifted directly from the article:

You would think that more people would stand up to protect their legal rights from being trampled, but alas, we live in a world of really really dumb sheep.

Their link, not mine.

Love it.

After reading this I thought.. "that sounds interesting, but... wrong" and I pondered it all and thought "if you're to pay 0.07 cent per song per listener, and if we have this fee because webcasting is classified as redistribution (storage) and not broadcast in the radio-sense..." well, then wouldn't it be possible to implement a distributed radio system. I googled for "distributed webcasting" but none of the hits sounded like what I was thinking about.

Simply: The webcast is distributed so that each listener serves at least one other listener with the same data he's recieving (think "like BitTorrent"). In essence, we have a digital version of listening in on your neighbour. Since we have N webcasters (I assume all it takes is software to become a "webcaster") each serving one (or a small set of) listener -- as apposed to 1 webscater serving N listeners, they won't have to pay anything?

You could argue that this creates a tree where the root is still serving all N listeners, but I think there's a possibility -- however slight -- that this would in fact stand up to scrutiny by the "webcasting laws".

The core argument is that since it's already classified as redistribution, node N pays for N+1, and that's that. N doesn't know if N+1 just listenes to the stream, stores it on his computer, or redistributes it... but if he redistribute it, that is up to N+1, and N has already paid the fee associated with that possible act?

Technically you'd need some way for each listener to announce open slots, but I honestly don't think latency would be a big deal -- in fact it only underscores the point that there isn't one distince webcaster paying the bill, there are N of them.

I'm sure someone smarter than myself has already argued/refuted this...?

Perhaps that is why SCO's Senior Vice President of Engineering and Global Services,
appears to be bailing out.

In other news senior VP bails from SCO, demonstrating a likely opinion of advanced technologists there about the merits of the case and the future of the company.

This post was not intended to be funny, but only off topic, since I have been repeatedly unsuccessful with story submissions that actually contain significant new interesting information about the case.

That Sun was trumpetting their status as a SCO licensee of Unix in disregard for any solidarity with Unix or Linux vendors or users was obvious, and this "revelation" was not a suprise in the least. It just means that Sun gave them a small amount of money a bit more recently.

Oh Christ, well, you'd better hurry and tell that to the NSA, US Navy, US Army and Boeing since they're all apparently terrorists.

Just read this post
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10397.

Over 10000 soldiers and 6000 civilians killed..
That's one civilian for each 3 kills.. guess your minimizing routine doesn't work that well.

You will enjoy the Mug Shotat the Inquirer of OS2/ MS