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Re:Isolate the Protiens
This is not a hoax, though it's reported as one.
http://campalicious.tribe.net/...
Ladies, swallow. It's for your own good.
Forgot where I was for a second. Show the study to your moms and give them my #.
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Re:A telephone in every room!
How many more years will slashdot have an off-by-one error on your Score in your profile?
Right. The people behind Slashdot failed "Web 2.0."
Could be worse. Take a look at tribe.net . It was cool once. Then they went Web 2.0. They tried to emulate Myspace's user-redesignable pages. They botched it so bad that everybody left. Looking at my old account today, of the 20 tribes to which I subscribed, one has updates: "Tribe.net Bug Reports - 2264 new".
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"You Knew the Job Was Dangerous, When You Took it,
Fred."
http://people.tribe.net/turtle/photos/2dbfad5a-28c5-499d-a624-e02c1f526c2aBreak your hip on the Moon? Who'd you think you were, trying to be all "Michael Jackson" with that footwork?
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Re:Athiests (and the left) have endured far more
Essentially every point in history, with a significant uptick since the late 70s. Numerous studies have documented this, not that it's really needed, since all you have to do is turn on a radio or television to see the demaguagary against non-believers in general and athiests in particular. See for example this and this as but two of many, many studies on the subject.
It is an axiom that we must "respect" other religions, no matter how absurd or disrespectful they are to others. In other words, it is not considered politically correct to go after Christianity, or most other religions for that matter. No such tolerance of athiests exists however, even though the religious will, with the very next breath, try to define athiesm--the absence of a belief in one or more gods--as a religion in its own right! Classic double-think.
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Re:It seems good
I loved a woman on the northern tip of cape cod once.
Having been to the northern tip of Cape Cod on many occasions, I find that highly improbable.
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Re:Power of Taxation
The crucial factor in adoption of a currency is whether the government accepts the currency to pay taxes. Other large sectors of the economy could achieve nearly the same effect: landlords, utilities, banks, insurance, or energy - but there are usually no more than four layers of government for any given district, so the impact of one of those layers accepting a currency is greater than the adoption of the currency by any one provider in a market with many competing players. The experiment in Wörgl, in which the depression-era mayor of an Austrian town issued a stamp-script (negative-interest) currency which was good for paying taxes illustrates this:
On July 31, 1932 the town administrator purchased the first lot of Bills from the Welfare Committee for a total face value of 1,800 Schillings and used it to pay wages. These first wages paid out were returned to the community on almost the same day as tax payments. By the third day it was thought that the Bills had been counterfeited because the 1000 Schillings issued had already accounted for 5,100 Schillings in unpaid taxes. Michael Unterguggenberger knew better, the velocity of money had increased and his Worgl money was working.
(From:An Experiment in Worgl
The initial stimulus was far less than the economic activity from paying taxes. This was compounded by the backlog of unpaid public and private bills.
The other crucial factor was the way that the currency was negative interest - stamps had to be bought and affixed periodically to keep a note valid. This discouraged hoarding and increased the velocity of money as people wanted to avoid paying for stamps themselves by instead paying the money to sellers and creditors. This negative interest also made the net present value (NPV) of sustainable but low-return long-term investments greater than holding cash. An investment that merely returned the invested principal after 20-years could still be a good investment compared to paying for the stamps needed to hold cash, whereas in conventional positive interest-bearing currencies the NPV of such an investment would be less than 55% of what was invested, even at 3% annual interest.
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Re:Bitcoin is good, but problematic.
That's an excellent idea, and not just for the original money-producers. Charging a periodic amount to keep currency... current has several beneficial effects: the velocity of money increases, trade increases, long-term investment increases. Look up "demurrage", "Wörgl", "Silvio Gessel", "stamp script" and "negative-interest currency" for more on why.
Here's a good introduction : An Experiment in Wörgl
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Gene Simmons
Pardon for hijacking the thread, but people need to be informed that Gene Simmons never had a personal computer when he was a kid.
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Re:Really?
Reagan did it...actually the televangelists claimed to have "conservative", "christian-AMERICAN values". Since then, the christians have tried to get rid of knowledge that most of the founding fathers were in fact "deist free-masons". They'd also like all of us to forget the native american influence on this country's founding documents.
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So when are you going to start boycotting these...
http://scientology.tribe.net/thread/f7cb344e-966e-4b76-8fb7-e84155d57afa
Support any of these people and you're supporting Scientology.
Such a shame that actors from some of your favourite shows are on there, hey?
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Re:What?
I hope they know better than to use an apostrophe in a plural.
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Web site end of life.
Some well-known sites are just hanging on, with almost no staff. Tribe is down to two employees.
The most active "tribe" is "Tribe.net bug reports".
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Re:If you're going to make an insult...
Reading the bible tells you what the people running the crusades were supposed to believe and/or follow as their higher calling, whether you believe it or not isn't relevant.
Does it? Do you stone people in all the situations called for in the bible? Obviously not -- you have to pick and choose which parts of the bible you want to follow (and that as well is based on translation & interpretation -- the majority of the bible is not prescriptive; it's stories).
Reading the bible and realizing that the modern-day church as created by the disciples from the teachings of Jesus ought not to be going around wiping people off the planet for their disbelief. I believe "shaking the dust from your shoes as you leave town" was the instruction, alongside loving those who persecute you.
There is no biblical teaching that should lead to anything like the hatred perpetrated by the Crusaders and others.
Did you look at the page I linked? Here it is again, if you're interested. You personally choose the "shake the dust off your feet" bit (instructions from Jesus to his 12 disciples); others (justifying the Crusades, for example) might choose this:
When the LORD your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations -- the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you -- 2 and when the LORD your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy. 3 Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, 4 for they will turn your sons away from following me to serve other gods, and the LORD's anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you. 5 This is what you are to do to them: Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones, cut down their Asherah poles and burn their idols in the fire. (Deut 7.1-5)
However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy them -- the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites -- as the LORD your God has commanded you. 18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the LORD your God. (Deut 20.16ff)Even about shaking the dust from your shoes -- here's the full quote:
"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment, than for that city."
So... you should just shake off the dust, and later God will utterly annihilate them with fire & brimstone -- man, woman, child & animal alike -- as he did with Sodom & Gomorrah.
Sodom & Gomorrah was a genocide carried out by God himself, but obviously (as in the example above) sometimes God wanted people to carry out the genocide for him.
So... how do you choose which parts of the bible to ignore and which to build your morality on? Do you just ignore the OT? (That loses the 10 commandments, though).
I have never understood why people hold up the bible as a useful moral guide. Sure, there are some useful things in there... but if you don't have some other moral yardstick already, you'll end up with the Crusades if you pick & choose the wrong bits. There's justification for all kinds of things.
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Re:If you're going to make an insult...
What God's followers do in his name is not the same as what it is he wants done by his followers.
Reading the Bible helps clear a lot of these misunderstandings up.
That depends on which part of the Bible you read, unfortunately (link is to an attempt to explain the various God-commanded or performed genocides in the Bible... perhaps you will find it convincing, but they've got a pretty tough job trying to justify wiping out entire populations, including infants, etc.).
So how does reading the Bible help? It seems to me that either:
* you believe the Bible to be inerrant, in which case you agree that wholesale genocide is occasionally justified, OR
* you believe the Bible is NOT inerrant -- it contains some stories with valuable moral lessons, and others which must be disregarded... hence you have to use your own moral sense to judge that (you can't *base* your morality on the Bible).If that's flawed logic, feel free to call me out.
Consider this: the Crusades were justified by filtering & interpreting the Bible differently from the way most folks do it today. Do you have any way of showing that they were wrong and you are right?
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Re:"Perpetual beta" = it sucks, forever
Additionally, when I visited Tribe.com, I received a 404...
Try "tribe.net. Looks like somebody forgot to update "tribe.com", which "tribe.net" apparently owns but is in domain hold for bogus Whois info.
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Re:Remember, Kids
Dr. Seuss had the best explanation in his documentaries, The Sneetches.
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Re:Apple haters be damned!
You know much against my better judgement I'm starting to like Apple. Tempting the Linux crowd into giving up their principles for a pretty UI is just so delightfully evil.
Maybe I should post on Make blog on DIY tattoo removal that involves brewing up TATP ingredients for people like Cory. -
Re:Maybe less anonymity is a good thing?
Man, I hope you wake up in 40 years, look around and see that America is still a free democracy, and look back on this time and laugh.
I don't have to wake up in 40 years, I've already lived through 40 years and things are worse now than then. About the only thing that's better now, which if some so called Christians get their way things will get worse again, is freedom of religion. I recall seeing and experiencing rulers forcibly applied to children's hands when I was in a public elementary school because the pledge of allegiance wasn't said with "under God". Now we have members of congress sworn in with the Koran instead of the Bible. But in other aspects things are worse than before.
Ignore what? The fact that we are headed into a totalitarian dictatorship? That we are going to need to rise up, as our forefathers did, and defend the constitution by force if necessary?
Totalitarian yes. And don't think a democracy can't become a dictatorship, Germany was a democracy when the NAZIs came to power, they were one of a number of political parties. As was El Duce, Benito Mussolini's National Fascist Party. Other examples exist as well. As for the US population raising up, that's hardly likely to happen. Half the US was against war in Iraq yet we're there. Many protested against the Bush admin spying on citizens yet Bush wants to continue spying on Americans, without a warrant. Fact is is too many people in the US don't think it affects them, and won't until it bites them in the ass. But as Benjamin Franklin said "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."
When there is a REAL threat to my ability to publish anonymously, wake me up because I will fight that battle with you at your side to the end. But right now there is no such battle.
If people aren't willing to fight to guaranty the right now it will be too late later. You only enjoy the right now because others are willing to fight to make sure those rights aren't taken away from you. And if you don't think a battle hasn't been fought you either must be too young or don't recall Nixon, J Edgar Hoover, or COINTELPRO.
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Re:Facebook is the future
Have to agree. I had a ClassMates account (or whatever that thing is) and let it lapse when I found out how pushy they were.
I also technically "moderate" three tribes on Tribe.net but don't use it to post much. MySpace is sometimes way too noisy.
But on Facebook I've been hanging out with my classmates from the small town in BC that I used to live with, some friends who are over in Singapore, a former colleague whose doing TB trials in Zambia, and local film, arts, politics, and general friends who are near. It just feels better.
Plus, when I add a friend from Trail BC, another friend from Trail BC notices and says "oh wow! there she is!" and it's really groovy. -
Pengiuns == raptors with feathers?
Pengiuns == raptors with feathers?
http://evilpenguins.tribe.net/photos/dc173506-5ac0-4084-bcac-fa1a3a898ef3
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Looks like something for Burning Man
The Burning Man crowd likes stuff like that. It's too late for this year's Department of Mutant Vehicles registration, though.
By playa standards, this is unambitious. Check out the Neverwas Haul, a steam-powered 3-story Victorian house on wheels that moves under its own power.
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Re:Pirates disgust me
OHH Cmon, He missed the most important fact!!! Downloads DO physical harm. Think If you download a movie or a song with a sexy or erotic theme (Barry White or something) (this is after you have have downloaded your porn) and you decide to "relieve" yourself, you kill a kitten. remember every time you masturbate God kills a kitten. http://people.tribe.net/dae8d009-d0b7-4b86-a693-9
5 41202788fe/photos/24986442-3b22-4cf3-81c4-8b29bfdf c2ee So yes you are doing someone harm. Not just the kitten but the owner of the kitten who will have emotional distress because of your evil actions. So in that sense it is MUCH worse than stealing a car. You can replace a car. But little fluffy the cat...you cannot replace a life. Shame on you you evil evil murdering bastards. Also consider that you potentially harm yourself as well. What if you get a cramp clicking on that mouse using utorrent? Oh yea it happens. Your own fault. Not the RIAA/MPAA. I suppose I can go on and on about this but those attorneys are on to something. Or just on something but regardless they make an excellent point. I will email them my above suggestions to use in their next informative ad. I think it could really convince people of their wrong doings. -
"Web 2.0" redesigns bad, async uses better
Tribe.net redesigned their home page to use "Web 2.0" around the beginning of 2007. Now users could drag the various boxes around, rearrange the home page, and choose which elements they wanted. (Except for the ads, of course, which were immovable.) The main effect was that "Tribe.net bug reports" became one of the most active groups. Tribe's traffic ratings in Alexa continued to slide.
There are uses for the asynchrony of XMLHttpRequest, though. Try our search and rating box. We have a site rating engine which rates sites on demand, and it takes takes about 8 to 30 seconds for sites it hasn't looked at yet. We needed a way to present this to the user without stalling the user's browsing.
So we needed a truly asynchronous web page, and we have one. When you enter text into the box and click the big "Search" button, the site gets all the results it can get from the databases immediately, and updates the page. The sites for which ratings aren't yet available show as rotating "busy" icons, which are replaced over the next few seconds as the server reads the target web site, rates it, and sends the ratings back to the browser.
If we did this with stock HTML, the whole thing would feel so sluggish as to be useless. But with a dynamic page, the user gets useful results immediately, which improve over the next 8 to 30 seconds. The user's browsing isn't stalled. In fact, if you enter something new into the search box while updates are in progress, outstanding XMLHttpRequest requests are aborted, and you can do a new search without waiting for old ratings to complete.
Few "Web 2.0" sites seem to support as much asynchrony. Google Maps is probably the best known site that really is asynchronous in a useful way.
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Re:Slashdot followed by...
- User Friendly
- Cryptome
- RISKS Digest
- Stupid Security
- This Is Broken
- Popular Wireless
- Tribe
- Slashdot main page
- Ask Slashdot
- Worse Than Failure (formerly known as the Daily WTF)
- Fantasyland
Of these entries, RISKS, Cryptome, Slashdot, Ask Slashdot, Worse Than Failure, and the Sidebar WTF section of Worse than Failure are all also subscribed in my RSS feed reader, along with BBC News, the Public Daily Brief and some select search terms in Google News.
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No, THIS is the "porn portal". Big controversy.
In San Francisco, we have Kink.com. They've been around for years, quietly, and very profitably, running a number of kinky websites. Recently, they decided to expand. So they bought the San Francisco Armory, an huge, old National Guard armory that's been vacant for thirty years. It covers half a city block. Paid $14 million in cash for it.
Big flap. National press coverage. Minor local protests. But Kink.com has all the planning permissions it needs; it's a done deal.
The CEO of Kink.com, Peter Acworth, isn't embarrassed about the business. He's met with local politicians, neighborhood groups, and the planning department. He has these meetings videotaped, and puts stills and video on Kink.com. (This is not a work-safe page; scroll down past the kinky stuff to the pictures of City Hall.)
The mayor of San Francisco has been a bit upset about the "Kink.com" thing. But the mayor has worse problems than Peter does - he's in rehab right now after an affair.
So now there's going to be an "informational hearing" at City Hall on March 8th. Both sides are working to get a turnout from their crowd.
Now that's a real "porn portal".
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Re:In the minority again
Well, it's a way to connect with people. If you're satisfied with the people you have, then a social networking site probably looks pretty stupid. You wouldn't surf match.com if you weren't looking for a date, and you wouldn't be on myspace if you weren't looking for people to connect with.
If you are, social networking sites can seem pretty neat since there are a lot of people there, some of who are interesting.
What's really appealing about myspace is that although most people wildly misuse their "space", it is a place where they can be creative and put out things that they like. Those things are not what most programmers think they should like, but the point is that they can be in control and there's plenty of help available to make their profile look as they want it to.
Human beings in general seem to be more interested in whether something looks "cool" than whether you can read it or not. And that's fine, because they are people and they are expressing themselves. And on myspace, it's relatively easy to find them, which is where I think social networking has a huge advantage over standalone blogs.
Someone who put hours and hours into breaking myspace has a pretty interesting perspective on it. Funny, too. I'm Popular.
I'm doing my own site, aimed at more mature people than myspace, but it's not ready yet. To show social networking with an adult flair, I consider my best competition to be Tribe. It used to have adult profiles and ... interesting ... pictures, but sadly their corporate backers decided that wasn't a brainy scheme and removed it. But it's still pretty much social networking for people who have passed the Myspace stage.
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Absolute positioning makes things much worse
I'm totally fed up with absolute positioning. That was a terrible idea. It was a bad idea in TeX, it was a bad idea in PostScript, and it is a bad idea in CSS. Now font width assumptions are built into the layout. We have text that runs off the page boundaries, buttons that move when clicked, and browser-specific dreck in the page markup. Giant step backwards. Tables were a good feature and they need to come back.
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The new bubble is already poppingBusiness Week is late on this one. We've already had the new Internet bubble, and are now starting the new Internet bubble collapse. Tribe just had a layoff. The dating-service business has consolidated; most of the remaining sites are fronts for a few back-end companies. The "blog" scene is cluttered to the point of near-uselessness. Most of the "Web 2.0" startups are me-too operations.
The real problem is that all these players are chasing the same pot of ad revenue. Most of them are bottom-feeders off Google AdWords or something similar. They're not selling anything themselves. There's no new product.
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I wonder if this isn't to be expected.
The enrollment drop mentioned at the end of the article might just be a reflection of a more prosperous society. Yes it's important to do science, to continue the endless probing of our world. We are beginning to live in a very comfortable environment, almost every necessity for life (food, water, shelter, etc.) can be guaranteed by a welfare state. After that's taken care of many are content just seeking entertainment. http://fermiparadox.tribe.net/thread/95e2f648-81a
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Solving big puzzles has always been for a self-elected few that had the patience and education to do so. Science isn't for everyone, and the stigma placed on it isn't so terrible either. In fact I'm just happy so very many (70%) recognize scientists do 'very important work.' -
Re:But
Ah ha, but did you ever see THIS on your menu
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Google owns orkut, a competitor to myspace
Invite only... What's an orkut invite worth these days?
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Myspace - adverts suck
Try http://tribe.net/ instead. Far more configurable, doesn't crash every 2 mins and the advertising is less intrusive...
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Re:A very technological experience indeedFor those that missed the event, Andrew Johnstone has used Micro$oft Flight Simulator to display models of the various Burning Man objects, See virtualplaya.org. The work was covered in Wired in January 2004.
Just yesterday I took a stab at converting the models from MS FlightSim to FlightGear, which is freely available. See the FlightGear thread on Virtualplaya.tribe.net for details.
Personally, I think Burning Man is way too big and is destroying the Playa because of the dust load created. My hope is that Burning Man will move between sites, much like the rainbow gathering. Perhaps a virtual reality component like Virtual Playa will help spawn smaller events in other locations, including cyberspace.
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Old news. Popular several years back here.
Old news. Transparent screens have been quite popular with the Gay Mac Users Group for several years now.
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Try the ultimate instead
Tribe.net... that's all ya need.
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Re:Me Too! (AOL)..
One year i made up a chain mail outfit for Trolloween for my son, with white and red Pokeballs made out of spray-painted AOL cd-roms.
We took it to Burning Man for 2000 and used it as part of the Mystical Frog of the Playa ceremonies.
Some of them we used as frisbees - kind of fun to see them fly in the dusk with the reflections of fires in the desert glinting off and then bring them back ... -
Simple Solution
Switch to Tribe.net.
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Re:Apple users are gay
You're right, and here's a good website for Mac owners !
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This just proves......that Mac owners are sissies who only care about how "cute" a tupperware-styled computer looks, talk with a 10 year-old girl and you'll get my point.
It just may be a coincidence but the only Mac owners I've met were all gays, and I'm not kidding on that. The other hetero, married type of guys only swear by PCs or Unix workstations.
If you use a Mac then that group may be for you. Have fun darling !
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Events in New York City
Some events happening in and around NYC during TV turnoff week are listed here, among other places.
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Seems like a good use for FOAF
FOAF is an open XML/RDF standard for describing these social networks, it seems like that would be a good way to implement this. Plus, since it uses SHA1 sums of email addresses it would be possible to check addresses without giving them up to spammers.
A lot of sites like Tribe.net and my own project SongBuddy are working on integrating FOAF into the site, so that you won't have to worry about the mechanics of it unless you want to. Seems like an easy way to build these kind of white lists. -
Re:why orkut is cooler than friendster
Check out tribe.net for a social networking schema based on groupings, or (wait for it) tribes of people. Yes, we want the option of identifying with others. It's a good thing.
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tribes
I've found tribe.net to be a smoother alternative to Friendster. Hell they even have a "tribe" devoted to friendster-hating! Oh, and they also do ads by google.
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Competition with HuminityFor context here's a few thingies that offer that friend-network action: Friendster
No download, runs anywhere. Kinda simplistic, users stop logging in.Tribe
No download, runs anywhere. More nerdy, uemphasis on freedom of use, discussion groups. Supports lots of pictures.MySpace
No download, runs anywhere. Supports restricted blogs, popularity contests, 10 pics. Does not emphasize actual RL friendship dynamics.Friend of a Friend
Open standard for creting friendster-like network apps. Used by PeepAgg to build OSS system.There are more, and I'd love to see replies with links to this rapidly growing class of services/apps, with brief descriptions attached. Thanks
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Re:performance
. Sometimes, I can't even login without a browser timeout. Try tribe.net. Similar to Friendster except it actually works.
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Re:Not needed
This is kind of off topic, but someone setup a tribe for slashdotters. It's kinda like friendster, but way more functional, with joblistings, resumes, forsale/wtb etc. check it at http://slashdot.tribe.net