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Re:Flip flop ....
TOTALLY AGREE. As an ex-military NCO with top secret security clearance - requiring quarterly briefings and signed documents attesting to your understanding of the responsibilities and penalties - I am fully aware of the offenses and penalties for abridging the classified document handling procedures.
INTENT is NOT a requirement, only that it HAPPENED by the person's personal choice and their own volition.
THIS, along with being a well-entrenched part of the 'establishment', is what cost "Hillary - dillary - can't touch me - I'm a politician, a lawyer, and I'm rich" the election, even though the choice was an agonizing one of the 'known devil' vs the 'perceived devil'.Take a trip down memory lane with the following: (some pro, many con'vict')
http://rense.com/general80/hop...
http://www.wnd.com/2000/04/447...
http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...
https://peterfrancisgeracilaw....
https://www.truthorfiction.com...
http://www.washingtontimes.com...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/...
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/20/...
http://www.politico.com/story/...
http://conservativeamerican.or...
http://www.theatlantic.com/pol...Americans have made their choice, whether through the electoral college or the basic raw vote count - - - being tilted a bit in Hillary's favor, but with the small margin still showing an inherent distrust of the entrenched 2-party system - either side is the same, just a bit different on the talking points - - - basically, the same old shit !
News reports already seem to indicate that president-elect Trump is willing to accept new information and alter his 'campaign promises __LOL__ ' in order to get down to the actual business of running the country.
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Truth or Fiction web site says not true.
The web site Truth or Fiction says not true.
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The Beast of Brussels
Dr. Hanrick Eldeman, Chief Analyst of the Common Market Confederacy in Brussels, has revealed that a computerized restoration plan is already under way to straighten out world chaos. A crisis meeting in early 1974 brought together Common Market leaders, advisers and scientists at which time Dr. Eldeman unveiled "the Beast".
The Beast is a gigantic three story computer located in the administrative building of the headquarters of the Common Market.
That monster is a self-programming computer that has more than one hundred sources distributing entries. Experts in programming have perfected a plan that will handle by computer all of the world's trade.
This master plan would imply a system of digital enumeration of each human being of the earth. Thus the computer would give each inhabitant of the world a number to be used for each purchase or sale, removing the problem of present credit cards. This number would be invisibly tattooed by laser, either on the forehead or on the back of the hand. This would establish a walking credit card system. And the number could be seen only through infrared scanners, installed in special verification counters or in business places: 666
Dr.Eldeman pointed out that by using three entries of six digits each, every inhabitant of the world would be given a distinct credit card number.
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Re:You know what disgusts me???
I cannot attest for the accuracy as I didn't look into any of the sources:
http://www.redstate.com/aarong...
https://www.commentarymagazine...
http://lwv.org/blog/georgia-ex... (indicates it was people listed in the wrong district/going to the wrong district)
https://www.truthorfiction.com... (some claims true, most false, but the true ones are very interesting) -
Re:Hell No Hillary
While not taking a personal position on this matter, I would ask you to read this and see if it influences your opinion of Ms. Clinton's qualification for the office of POTUS:
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Re:Goodluck Mr.Gorsky
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Re:If they hadn't brought their drone
http://www.csvr.org.za/wits/papers/paplvsl.htm - Africa rape culture
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8107039.stm - Rape is common and expected
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31835572/ns/world_news-africa/t/rape-culture-condemned-south-africa/ - Rape is a culture there.http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/a/aids-virgins.htm -- how some africans believe the yunger the rape victim the more potent the cure to AIDS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misconceptions_about_HIV_and_AIDS -- even more about this nutty belief.Everyone that modded him down is a head in the sand idiot. Africa is a Nasty Horrible place for women. it's flat out hell.
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Re:The Black Death isn't coming back
I think you and him are talking about different people.
You're talking about the people who did figure out new methods of healing through the years, whilst ignoring those who did manage to fuck up and kill more people than they helped.
He's talking about the shit crazy "witch doctors" who still exist in places like Africa who claim they can produce cures, but first they need the limb of an albino African...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/16/tanzania-humanrights
You're both right- you're right about the people you're talking about, but you're not talking about the people he's talking about- the people who, to this day, think they can cure people through things that have quite the opposite effect, they do exist, and they have always existed- not every "witch doctor" through history has been good or sensible. Humans are quite good at believing their own bullshit, and many such healers through history will have decided "Yes, this'll cure it" and stuck with it no matter how badly it went wrong, using the age old excuses of "Oh, god must've just wanted that one to die", or "He was too far gone, there was nothing that could be done for him" and the like.
There is any number of documented tragic cases in Africa still going on right now where people claim they can heal through things that are far more harmful to the "patient" and others around him.
What about cases like this where he's claiming he can cure AIDs, the people beleive they're cured, and then go and spread it? -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6323449.stm
Or this:
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/a/aids-virgins.htm
I don't think his view of many third world "healers" is particularly mistaken. Many are just people making up false claims to elevate their status in society, to make people look up to them. Just like faith healers in fact.
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Someone should challenge the copyright
It is highly disputed that MLK plagiarised the I Had A Dream speech. http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/m/mlk.htm I think it should be settled once and for all.
Either revoke it or respect it. I don't care which. But if King is to be a national hero, I don't think it's right that there should be profit in it for anyone -- not even his family.
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Re:You say "catapult"
I find that process imparts a certain flavour that can't be replicated by other means. Similar to this.
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Re:Dude.
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Re:truth
You asked for cites. Here ya go:
September 12, 2005 - Robertson not so subtly implies that hurricane Katrina was God's wrath for legalized abortion.
Sure, if you read his exact words, you could interpret it to mean something other than "Katrina was God's wrath," but given his numerous other warnings about various disasters caused by God, and his far less subtle comments about the 9/11 attacks (see below), and now the Haiti earthquake, it's pretty clear what his not-so-hidden message was when he made his Katrina comments.
September 13, 2001 - Robertson and Falwell say that America's liberal, secular society is to blame for the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
Here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-CAcdta_8I
Here's the transcript (scroll down): http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/f/falwell-robertson-wtc.htm
Of course, Falwell later tried to backpedal and state that he did not believe that God caused the 9/11 attacks, but rather he "lifted the veil of protection," thereby allowing the attacks to occur. Read the transcript. It's clear what he (and Robertson) meant. He said America had made God "angry," clearly implying that this was God's wrath.
June 8th, 1998 - Robertson warns Orlando that their "Gay Days" celebration might cause earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes, and even terrorist bombs.
Or, in Robertson's own words "I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you.
... [A] condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs, it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes and possibly a meteor."A meteor? WTF? Really? He probably just got done watching the trailer for Armageddon (note the release date in the IMDb link and the date of his Orlando rant).
Oh, and just for good measure, here's a couple more. Apparently, he also blamed Ariel Sharon's 2006 stroke and the death of two people in a Sedona, Arizona sweat lodge on God's wrath.
If this does not convince you that Pat Robertson believes this crap, just hop on over to YouTube, and you can find a few dozen videos where you can see and hear him spewing it right out of his own mouth.
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Sorry, but that's a fake...
The picture in the link you posted has been reported as a fake.
You don't even need to go all the way to Boeing to get to the truth in this case, since the fake Boeing blended wing has a glaring technical error that's obvious at first glance to any aerospace engineer: the turbine intakes are located above the wing in a low-pressure region. If you compare it with existing blended wing or large delta wing aircraft, the turbine intakes are either at or near the front edge of the wing, as in the B-2, or under the wing, as in the Concorde or the XB-70
Also, passenger airplanes need a big pressurized cabin. Making it different from the cylindrical shape used today would be wasteful, it would need much more strength at the walls and would be heavier.
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Obama wins and is not a citizen
I worry about Obama becoming president and then when the case finally makes it to the Supreme Court and it is proved that he isn't a citizen - then what happens? There are many good reasons to suspect that he is actually an illegal alien. http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/l/lawyersues.htm
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Re:Keyhole career.Boy, you people sure love your exaggerations.
I do love exaggeration on occasion, but if anything those were gross understatements.
You obviously haven't seen the EU regulations! They are here and vary by animal. For cattle it is 30 degrees Celsius (86 degrees Fahrenheit)(with 5 degrees leeway).
Sheriff Joe Arpaio keeps inmates in tents in temperatures allegedly up to 138 degrees F (58 degrees Celsius). That is considerably worse!
As for FPMITA prison, that comes up every single time prison is mentioned on Slashdot, I am assuming primarily from Americans. It also is one of the most archetypal themes in US male-on-male porn films, unlike in the EU.
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Re:Snopes
These sites are similar to Snopes: http://www.truthorfiction.com/ http://www.hoax-slayer.com/
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Re:Late 97?I know you're just trying to be funny, but first, he never said that. Republican spin-meisters and the so-called "liberal media" made that up. (When was the last time anyone seriously accused "the media" of being liberal, anyway?) He actually said "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet". But was this statement a fair one?
From http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/g/goreinternet.htm:When he was a senator, he supported funding for NSFNet through the High Performance Computing Act that became law in 1991. He wrote guest columns for Byte magazine that reflected an appreciation of technology.
From http://www.perkel.com/politics/gore/internet.htm (referring to an article by Mountain Democrat columnist David Jacobsen):According to Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom who's been called the Father of the Internet, "The Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by the Vice President in his current role and in his earlier role as Senator."
The same is incidentally true of some of his other seemingly far-fetched stories (which, again, are often based on mis-quotes). For instance, from the same article:
The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen, credits Gore with making his work possible. He received a federal grant through Gore's High Performance Computing Act.
The University of Pennsylvania's Dave Ferber says that without Gore the Internet "would not be where it is today."
Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University, claims that Gore "was perhaps the first political leader to grasp the importance of networking the country. Could we perhaps see an end to cheap shots from politicians and pundits about inventing the Internet?"Gore described a letter he'd received from a girl in West Tennessee while he was a congressman. Based on the girl's complaint about a poisoned well, he organized an investigation, which in turn led to other pollution sites, culminating in the expose of Love Canal. Referring to the well in Toone, Tennessee, Gore said, "That was the one you didn't hear of--but that was the one that started it all."
This quote was quickly changed to "I was the one that started it all" by the time the media reported it, then to "I was the one who started it all" by the Republicans.
And "Erich Segal, author of Love Story, corroborated that Gore and his Harvard roommate, Tommy Lee Jones, were indeed the models for the story's main character" [played by Ryan O'Neal]. -
Urinal fly
This actually isn't a bad idea. A while back there was a story about the urinal fly, and how urinal in Amsterdam have a sticker of a little fly on them because they found that it improved people's aim when they had something to focus on. This seems like the same principle taken to the next level.
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I'm not sure Freshness is a factor.
Noting that the most expensive coffee in the world is an Indonesian Blend that passes through the digestive track of a local monkey. I'd hardly call these beans "fresh".
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Re:How many friends???
Oh, and don't forget the superstition that having sex with a virgin will cure a man of AIDS.
And now, a most politically incorrect observation: Barring the development of an effective cure within the next decade or so, societies with large memberships that believe such superstitions will have their populations implode, with the culture likely to follow. This may be thought of a evolution in action: the trait of reliance on a non-scientific worldview is detrimental to survival in a globally-connected environment with urban populations. (The genetic mutation granting AIDS immunity may limit this; however, that gene does not seem to be as common in Africa as in Europe.)
Now, can we induce the "intelligent design" Christian fundamentalists to self-exterminate via something similar?
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Re:No sense of history!!Seems you fell for an urban legend: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/brassmonke
y s.htm/Summary of the eRumor
This piece of alleged history explains that in the olden days of sailing ships, cannon balls were stacked on the decks on brass plates called "monkeys." The plates had indentions in them that held the balls on the bottoms of the stacks. Brass, however, expands and contracts with the temperature and if it got cold enough, the cannon balls could fall...giving real foundation to the phrase "cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey!"
The Truth
According to the United States Navy Historical Center, this is a legend of the sea without historical justification. The center has researched this because of the questions it gets and says the term "brass monkey" and a vulgar reference to the effect of cold on the monkey's extremities, appears to have originated in the book "Before the Mast" by C.A. Abbey. It was said that it was so cold that it would "freeze the tail off a brass monkey." The Navy says there is no evidence that the phrase had anything to do with ships or ships with cannon balls.
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Re:What's next??
You say that as a joke. A friend of mine is taking a community-college-level intro to becoming a teacher course, and one of the things they did was went to the local art exhibit. Some of his classmates -- these are people who are planning on becoming high-school teachers, remember -- were saying "I think it's awful that they'd show that in public" (a copy of Michelangelo's "David") and "why is he standing so faggy?" (Donatello's "David".)
For that matter, do you remember when John Ashcroft insisted on putting clothes on the statue of Justice in the White House? (I think that was primarily because he was tired of seeing his sweaty red face as he started yet another rant, with Justice's huge bronze boobs behind him, framing his head.) -
Re:fuck
I guess you don't remember the ruckus that was raised when the Clinton administration gave a survey to Marines asking if they'd be willing to fire upon American civilians in order to enforce gun control laws.
That has been debunked.
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Re:Price Fixing?
>What the hell do you expect to happen when you let these companies conglomerate
all this power without so much as a "Remember Ma Bell"? Of course they're going
to screw us over, they're corporations. If it was legal and made them money they
would feed kitten entrails to school-children.
Ah, I see you have tried school lunches then.
Seriously, slim-jims --
Mechanically seperated chicken, kitten entrails might be an improvement.
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Re:Still Holes in the Fossil Record
Proof that McDonald's uses real chicken. BTW, bit of warning: possibly disturbing picture in linked article, but most of us can just get over it.
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Re:Government and Health Care
By most accounts, the locals did a lot to make the stranded travelers feel welcome. But some of them were very remote, so a three-day wait to see a doctor isn't implausible, particularly with all aircraft grounded.
For those who don't know the story, here is a link that you may find inspiring: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/d/deltafligh
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Re:How sure?
Excepting children unfortunate enough to have HIV passed on to them from birth, the virus is largely spread through irresponsible behavior.
Right, like all of those young girls in South Africa who were raped by men with AIDS. Those little irresponsible bitches -- ruining it for the rest of us!
Perhaps, just for a second, you should step off of your high horse. Maybe some day you'll appreciate someone not looking down their nose at you when you're in a very bad position. It's always someone else's mess until someone you love is affected. It's clear that you've never seen someone close to you wither away and die from this horrible disease. Perhaps when it does happen, you should mention to that person that you're not going to waste any tears for them, since it was (most likely) a result of their irresponsible behavior.
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Re:If it's not broken, don't fix it.
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URBAN MYTH ALERT
Here are sites detailing this myth...
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/k/keycards.ht m
http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/keycards.h tml
http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/hoaxes/hoaxDetails .asp?HName=Hotel+Key+Card+Hoax&Page=4
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Re:I wish this was a joke
So, the Beast of Belgium will actually be in the Netherlands? I wonder if they got any of their ideas for this program from Total Information Awareness?
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Re:Let it run it's course.
We all saw the contribution NASA gave to the engineering of ink pens.
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Re:Duh
Last I heard it wasn't so much that every person would have an IP address so much as everything you wear, carry or own would have one. Supposedly the idea is that your socks will be able to email your washing machine to get the microwave to remind you to wash them whilst the fridge will IM your PVR with a list of what's in it so it can identify and record cookery shows that use those ingredients, prioritised by how close to the use by date each ingredient is. Meanwhile the coffee maker will be contacting the local stores to get you the best prices for Kopi Luwak then putting a reminder in your GPS enabled PDA so that when you go near the store you get a message telling you to pop in and get some (and whilst you're in there pick up some milk, eggs and your mom's magazine reservations).
Stephen
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Sounds from HellThis reminds me of the urban legend that makes the rounds about scientists drilling into the earth being startled by the sounds of hell emerging from the pipe. Complete with escaping bat or demon emerging from the pipe.
Click here for info on how this story really came about.
Someone finally did the leg work to track the story down. On the other hand, I would like to find the source of the Audio Clip.
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Re:Russians and Americans
You're right, that's joke.
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Re:Some thoughts on Ashcroft
I don't know what is unclear about what I said.
The strategy by Ashcroft is simple: arrest a bunch of people and claim there is a big terrorist plot of cell. Make a big splash about it by a press conference, with a lot of T-word sprinkled in. Portray that as a major win against the war in terror. The accused are often of Middle Eastern descent, blacks, converts to Islam, or some other visible minority.
In the eyes of the public, they were protected from a big evil. Maximum media impact.
Then, after a year or more, the people are either quietly freed, or charged with petty felonies. If they are not citizens, they are deported because of immigration issues.
This is what I see wrong, and hence the spraying pepper to prevent elephants on the lawn analogy.
Simple, isn't it?
Here is what he said about Islam: Islam is a religion in which God requires you to send your son to die for him. Christianity is a faith in which God sent his Son to die for you."
No Islamofascits there (whatever that means, another ambiguous emotional term that is often used without definition).
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Re:How about TV advertising?
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Re:Maximum & minimum.Wow, getting personal there! I question what you know based on your poor, knee-jerk responses, and you question directly who I am. Nice! That's a sure way to win an argument.
But, I'm not going to sink to the same level that you've sunk to. Since your response indicates that you don't care about discussion, only about irrationally defending your ignorant, selfish, make-believe view of the world, I'm not going to waste my time.
I will, however, leave you with a few links. If you're halfway honest with yourself you may even click on some of them.
The Myth of divorce. The 50% divorce rate is a myth, but then again I doubt you know the difference between myth and fact.
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Re:reincarnation of Lawnchair Larry
Lawnchair Larry got up to 16,000 feet. He brought sandwiches and a six-pack of Miller Lite. A photo and description: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/l/lawnchairl
a rry.htm Sadly, Lawnchair Larry took his own life a few years later when, despite his daring aerial exploit and consequent publicity, his life *still* sucked. -
Too bad it's not true
It sure is funny.
But it's fiction:
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Re:Umm...try again
Do keep in mind several of those 'achievements' are straight BS, or at best misleading (and some of them are admittedly understating certain positives!). For example, girls have been going to school in Iraq since the 1970s (it was a constitutional right). Some Americans and their 'knowledge' of the Middle East can be pretty funny sometimes ("the Taliban in Afghanistan were against girls going to school, so Iraq must have been the same thing!" seems to be the thought process here).
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Re:Does anyone know Jon's doctor?
Nice try, but Bzzzzt! Wrong answer. That expression was probably just as vulgar as it sounds.
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Re:Why the fuss over this old Catechism song?That doesn't make any sense. Here is a complete list of the 12 symbols with their meanings:
- Partridge in a pear tree = The One true God revealed in the person of Jesus Christ
- Turtle Doves = The Old and New Testaments
- French Hens = Faith, Hope and Charity
- Calling Birds = the Four Gospels and/or the Four Evangelists
- Golden Rings = The first Five Books of the Old Testament, the "Pentateuch" which contain the law condemning us of our sins.
- Geese A-laying = the six days of Creation
- Swans A-swimming = the seven gifts of the Holy Spirit, the seven sacraments of the Catholic faith
- Maids A-milking = the eight Beatitudes
- Ladies Dancing = the nine Fruits of the Spirit
- Lords A-leaping = the Ten Commandments
- Pipers Piping = the eleven faithful apostles
- Drummers Drumming = the twelve points of doctrine in the Apostle's Creed
Efforts have been made to bridge the symbols to the doctrines they supposedly represent. Calling Birds = the Four Gospels and/or the Four Evangelists. You can easily deduce the explanation for this one. The calling birds are spreading the Gospel; they are telling the Good News to others. The problem is that in the original song, there were no calling birds. The song began as a French song. The fourth day was about 'houiller birds. Houiller, pronounced sort of like "colly," (I think the first consonant is a gutteral sound) is the word for coal used as an adjective. In this context, it means "black as coal." They were black birds, not calling birds.
Now, how do you explain the connection? And when in history were French Catholics being repressed by the Anglican Church so that they would have made this song?
There are many sites like this one that debunk this urban legend. See Snopes also.
When we Christians hold on to legends like this, it only serves to discredit everything else we claim to be true, including the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Catholics, please stop spreading rumors! Where is your source? You have none. It is true that Christians used to celebrate Christmas for the twelve days from Advent to Epiphany, but there is no evidence of religious doctrine being embedded in "The Twelve Days of Christmas" or of a connection to Protestant banning of Catholicism.
Preemptive strike on trolls: Yes, I know that Jesus wasn't born on Dec. 25, pagan influences, yadda yadda, etc, but tradition and doctrine are not the same thing. The bottom line is that we don't (shouldn't) claim something to be true that isn't, and we disavow the evil sources that have affected our traditions.
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There is an old joke that says it allThe american spend years in research and millions of dollar perfecting a pen that would work in space. The russians used a pencil.
Yes I know this is not true. The disprove(?)
But still it is funny. I watched Jay Leno for a while and he just wouldn't quit with jokes about the space station mir and how it was falling apart. Of course zero jokes about the over a dozen people blown up aboard the space shuttles.
Exactly what is the body count on both sides? And how does the body count stack up to the amount of time spend in space?
So once again the americans are looking to go the high tech way. Sure the russians have proven time and time again that the old pod on a rocket works best, hell the russians have got an escape mechanism, their crews aren't doomed to burn up without at least a chance of escape.
A space plane just for piloting people up? Cause the existing soyuz module is not big enough. Okay here is a bloody simple solution. Add more modules!
When was the last time you saw on say a passenger ship just ONE big lifeboat? Multiple small ones are way easier to implement and provide reduncancy.
Oh well no doubt the boys at nasa know better. After all it is not like they haven't learned from past mistakes eh?
The space shuttle was a great idea. It was part of a huge project to go into space and the shuttle would have been the first of a whole fleet of vehicles to allow this to happen. Instead it became the mainstay of american space exploration and it this role it fails. It is like SUV, nice in theory but in its attemps to be all things it fails at being good at anything.
Of course the article points out the reason pretty well. Lack of funding. I guess the americans just made so many jokes about mir that they thought they had the space race won and they no longer had to do anything with it. Pity.
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Cell phone gunsSo don't be surprised if you're in Japan early next year and see people running holding their cellphone/PDA like a gun.
Uhh, cell phone guns are already a reality. The FBI was airports about them. See, for example, this description.
This Doom thing could really freak some people out, especially if combined with good sound effects.
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Bill 1618, Title III is NOT A REAL LAW
It passed the Senate but never passed the House of Representatives... It's cited by spammers in order to trick you that the spam is legitimate and that you can't do anything about it. See link here.
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Re:This neatly covers those two in one article...
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Re:Why McDonalds?
Funny, because I recall a news story that McDonald's new "All American Burger" contained considerable amount of foreign beef, mostly from New Zealand and Australias. more info.
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Re:Typical Starbucks
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System Dependencies and a FREE GIFT!!
Please note that in order to work properly, the system library files PLACEBO.DLL and GULLIBLE.DLL must be present in your C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory, and C:\EXPLORE.EXE must be moved from the C:\WINDOWS directory into the Recycle Bin.
And if you act now, we'll throw in this free HANDS FREE CELL-PHONE ADAPTER! -
Re:South Africa