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Tesla M 3 start at the average price of a sold car in America

No. The average price of a car sold in America is about $22,000, whereas the Tesla Model 3 starts at $35,000.

The average new car purchase costs $33,560. However, 69% of cars sold are used with an average price of $16,800, because most people can't really afford to buy new. Furthermore, those numbers are probably the arithmetic mean, whereas the geometric mean (surely a lower number) would probably be more useful.

Anecdotally, the geometric mean price of a car purchase among my own social circles (which encompass everything from the intermittently homeless up to the beginning of the upper class) is definitely MUCH less than $35,000, with a strong majority of the vehicles purchased being used. Anyone who thinks a $35,000 car is affordable to the average American adult is out-of-touch with the true economic condition of the general population.

Some used 2017 Teslas might reach affordability for regular people in five years or so - or they might not; nobody knows for sure what the maintenance requirements and depreciation rate for the Model 3 will be like, yet.

Tesla M 3 start at the average price of a sold car in America

No. The average price of a car sold in America is about $22,000, whereas the Tesla Model 3 starts at $35,000.

The average new car purchase costs $33,560. However, 69% of cars sold are used with an average price of $16,800, because most people can't really afford to buy new. Furthermore, those numbers are probably the arithmetic mean, whereas the geometric mean (surely a lower number) would probably be more useful.

Anecdotally, the geometric mean price of a car purchase among my own social circles (which encompass everything from the intermittently homeless up to the beginning of the upper class) is definitely MUCH less than $35,000, with a strong majority of the vehicles purchased being used. Anyone who thinks a $35,000 car is affordable to the average American adult is out-of-touch with the true economic condition of the general population.

Some used 2017 Teslas might reach affordability for regular people in five years or so - or they might not; nobody knows for sure what the maintenance requirements and depreciation rate for the Model 3 will be like, yet.

Oh - you've really nailed a mainstream problem. Right-wing attacks on abortion clinics are a just something you see every... oh wait, I think you have your right-and-left backwards. Why not stop spreading your false narrative, and check out the reality of https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ - if you're interested in physical attacks.

Wait, wait, are you confused, and think that the various Islamic fundamentalists are on the left?

They're not.

But yes, attacks on Planned Parenthood are real. And even the non-violent actions are flawed, since they're based on fabrications and misrepresentations.

Presumably this happened because the Silk Road facilitated crimes in the US. But does it even go the other way? Are there ever people extradited from the US because their online activities broke the law in other countries?

I don't know if it has happened specifically with online criminal activity, but Americans do get extradited to other countries.

There was a CIA agent who was involved with some rendition during the Bush Administration who got tried in absentia in Italy, found guilty and then shipped over there. Let me see if I can find it...yes. Here it is:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/...

That's standard extradition, she physically committed that crime while standing in Italy.

But a website doesn't have the same kind of physical presence so the illegal act could theoretically happen anywhere the website is accessed. For instance Thailand makes it illegal to insult their dumbass of a king, but I don't anticipate myself being arrested and extradited to Thailand because someone in Thailand reads my comment.

So did anything specific happen only in the US? If Ireland did their own investigation could they have instead extradited the Americans to stand trial in Ireland?

Presumably this happened because the Silk Road facilitated crimes in the US. But does it even go the other way? Are there ever people extradited from the US because their online activities broke the law in other countries?

I don't know if it has happened specifically with online criminal activity, but Americans do get extradited to other countries.

There was a CIA agent who was involved with some rendition during the Bush Administration who got tried in absentia in Italy, found guilty and then shipped over there. Let me see if I can find it...yes. Here it is:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/...

With todays low prices on what contractors can sell at a state and federal level?
At least 50 U.S. law enforcement agencies quietly deployed radars that let them effectively see inside homes, with little notice to the courts or the public. (January 20, 2015)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/...
Gone is "the right of a man to retreat into his own home and there be free from unreasonable governmental intrusion."

Bugger off. No Marine platoon pinned down under heavy enemy fire wants to see air support arrive in the form of goddam toy airplanes, blundering and pussyfooting around. They want to see A-10s, driven by seasoned pilots, well experienced in CAS. They want to hear that BRRRRRRRRRRP of death shredding the enemy.

No they don't. A-10s, operated by the Air Force, have the highest rate of friendly incidents. An A-10 is the last thing they want to see.

There's a reason they're doing this. It's not just that the IOC is incredibly greedy. It's that their greed is fueled by NBC's money, and NBC is damn well going to get their pound of flesh for the $1.29 billion they paid for exclusive rights. If recent news reports are accurate, NBC is just barely breaking even, having sold $1.2 billion in advertising so far.

So sure, blame IOC's greed. But don't forget to blame NBC's greed too. They want every second of Olympic imagery to be surrounded by inescapable commercials, or they could be in serious trouble. If the interest of advertisers falls off even a tiny bit, they start losing money on the Games, and they have a contract out through 2032.

to be fair, that might kill off the Zia carrying mosquitoes. http://www.usatoday.com/story/...

You mean Hillary? Because Trump, despite all the mud being thrown this way, has done very little concrete evil in comparison.

Trump has never held an elective or appointive office in his entire life.

But there is damn little reason to believe that he is capable of playing by the rules or accepting responsibility for anything that goes wrong.

The legal actions provide clues to the leadership style the billionaire businessman would bring to bear as commander in chief. He sometimes responds to even small disputes with overwhelming legal force. He doesn't hesitate to deploy his wealth and legal firepower against adversaries with limited resources, such as homeowners. He sometimes refuses to pay real estate brokers, lawyers and other vendors.

As he campaigns, Trump often touts his skills as a negotiator. The analysis shows that lawsuits are one of his primary negotiating tools. He turns to litigation to distance himself from failing projects that relied on the Trump brand to secure investments. As USA TODAY previously reported, he also uses the legal system to haggle over his property tax bills. His companies have been involved in more than 100 tax disputes, and the New York State Department of Finance has obtained liens on Trump properties for unpaid tax bills at least three dozen times. Exclusive: Trump's 3,500 lawsuits unprecedented for a presidential nominee

What's low about this is that the primary source they cite is Gawker.

Trump blasts Obama, hopes Russia can find 'missing' Clinton emails
The many problems with Donald Trump's call for Russia to spy on Hillary Clinton
Trump Says He Hopes Russia Can Access Clinton's Emails
Trump Asks Russia to find Clinton's missing emails in Doral [Florida] Appearance

Well, I guess it beats YACA....but these aren't players we're talking about here. But to go with a sports analogy*, imagine if the coaches of the Patriots, Colts and Steelers were among the least paid in the league, but the coaches of perennially shitty teams like the Vikings or Browns were paid over $100 million a year.

*Switched to football as I follow baseball as much as water polo

Meanwhile, Trump has had four bankruptcies and is the subject of multiple class action suits over the scam that was Trump University.

Multiple is a bit of an understatement 3500 would be more accurate http://www.usatoday.com/story/...

Wasn't Bill Clinton raked over the coals by the Reps. for having just one!

Of the 3500 lawsuits mentioned in the USA today article, Trump was the plaintiff in 1900 and the defendant in 1450. I say 'was' because the number of current open civil suits is 50.

Meanwhile, Trump has had four bankruptcies and is the subject of multiple class action suits over the scam that was Trump University.

Multiple is a bit of an understatement 3500 would be more accurate http://www.usatoday.com/story/...

Wasn't Bill Clinton raked over the coals by the Reps. for having just one!

isn't that a little like leaving the gun on the kitchen table where the four year old can grab it while you're out in the garden?

Or under the seat of the truck, or in your purse, or under a pillow.

Interesting points there, and you've swayed my opinion a bit, but I think I'm still weighted against such policies. I remember when record labels paid out millions over such a minimum pricing scheme for CDs. I saw that as a consumer victory (if only a short-lived one; they were sued again for artificially inflating the price of downloads). Record stores didn't really compete on service or customer satisfaction, even with minimum prices in force. Sure, the clerk at the mom 'n pop place might share a joint with you in the back room, but it was still just racks full of CDs priced the same as every other store with racks full of CDs. I guess some industries are better suited to minimum pricing strategies than others.

I think you really aren't the norm.

He is the norm, or at least closer to it than anyone who thinks $2640 is an expensive vacation. A 2010 American Express survey found that the average family of four will spend $4,000 on a vacation, including airfare.

You may think all but the thriftiest vacations are expensive (and I would agree with you), but that doesn't change how expensive average vacations are.

You should check reality before spouting off with a derisive rant. A 2010 American Express survey found that the average family of four will spend $4,000 on a vacation, including airfare. It is not just my opinion that a $2640 vacation is very reasonable, it is an objective fact. I personally believe almost all vacations are expensive, since I can just as much fun with a $500 video card and a few games, or a $50 board game, but that's just my opinion.

I have a wife and child and we have never spent that much money ($2640) on a vacation. At most, maybe $1500.

And yet, we've had very wonderful trips every year.

I never said all vacations have to be expensive, just that a $2640 is not relatively expensive compared to average vacations in the US (I think almost all vacations are expensive myself, but that's a personal vacation).

And it is not my opinion that $2640 is not an expensive vacation. A 2010 American Express survey found that the average family of four will spend $4,000 on a vacation, including airfare.

At best, a significant Libertarian vote will inform the "major" parties that they have to change their direction (i.e. stop nominating criminals and clowns).

No, the Libertarian party can do even more. If Gary Johnson prevents both Trump and Clinton from receiving 50% of the electoral college, then nobody wins the election! See

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/06/01/gary-johnson-12-amendment-electoral-college-elections-2016-column/85170378/

just don't go blind doing whatever it is you do, because then you're stuck going inside to get your "happy meal"
http://www.usatoday.com/story/...

This story is basically free advertising for T-Mobile. Pokemon GO is super popular at the moment, but it doesn't use much data. It uses up 2-8MB/hour, and the average player only plays it 43 minutes a day, meaning 1.5-6MB per day usage for an average player. That's ~120MB/month for the average player, not exactly pushing the limits of most people's data caps.

Adding in that it's probably the most popular mobile game at the moment anyhow, there shouldn't be a net neutrality problem; people who don't enjoy the game won't feel pressured to play it over other games merely due to the zero-rated data. If, say, one VPN were zero-rated while its competitors were not, there could be a serious problem; I could even see zero-rating being a problem with MMOs or livestreaming services where different services are essentially commodities. However, in this case the data usage of a game with effectively no competition in its genre isn't a significant contributor to people's choice to play it over other games.

Here's what Mike Pence said word for word in his so-called "denialist" and "anti-science" article:

This is not to say that smoking is good for you.... news flash: smoking is not good for you. If you are reading this article through the blue haze of cigarette smoke you should quit. The relevant question is, what is more harmful to the nation, second hand smoke or back handed big government disguised in do-gooder healthcare rhetoric.

And he was right.

I'm not sure the original quote was mined, though it definitely needs more context. And the actual context is worse than your excerpt:

We will hear about how this phalanx of government elates has suddenly grown a conscience after decades of subsidizing the product which, we are now told, "kills millions of Americans each year".

Time for a quick reality check. Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn't kill. In fact, 2 out of every three smokers does not die from a smoking related illness and 9 out of ten smokers do not contract lung cancer. This is not to say that smoking is good for you....

So lets unpack this a bit.

We will hear about how this phalanx of government elates has suddenly grown a conscience after decades of subsidizing the product which, we are now told, "kills millions of Americans each year".

First he's misleading his reader about the opposing arguments. I don't know who said that "kills millions of Americans each year" but the very similar sounding claim that people will be thinking of is smoking kills millions worldwide every year. When people hear a reference to 5 million killed they'll think it means 5 million Americans killed, so now the static sounds dodgy because there's two different versions floating around and one of them sounds really implausible. It could be an accident (ie he misheard the quote) but it might also be a deliberate attempt to harm his opponents' credibility by assigning them bad arguments.

Time for a quick reality check. Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn't kill. In fact, 2 out of every three smokers does not die from a smoking related illness and 9 out of ten smokers do not contract lung cancer.

I think most people would consider 1/3 of smokers dying of smoking related illness as "smoking kills". What he's doing is a bit of a slight of hand, he makes an assertion and then repeats statistics. Even though the statistics essentially contradict his assertion uncritical readers (especially sympathetic readers) will simply accept the offered premise that the statistics support his assertion.

So it's wrong to claim he said "smoking doesn't kill" and meant that like smoking isn't bad for you, or even that smoking doesn't kill you. But it's true he's trying to downplay how deadly cigarettes are in a disingenuous way.

David Duke has never been convicted of any crime

So pleading guilty to mail and tax fraud in 2002 isn't good enough to be considered a conviction anymore?

That is exactly what the judge ruled. The main reason this isn't happening all over the place is that people don't understand how the devices work, and the police/prosecutors are not exactly volunteering the information. There is a good article about it here. Basically, the police hide the fact that they used stingray devices to track suspects by either making up some other reason that they happened to find themselves at the suspect's location or hiding something very vague on page 200 of the report like, "used electronic surveillance," which most defense attorneys do not know to challenge. In rare situations where the evidence has been challenged, the prosecution just drops the case so that precedent isn't set.

Oh and about Obama having high approval? In the latest Quinnipiac poll he's considered the worst of all Presidents post WW II.

And you're the dumb-ass who wants to hand the Presidency to Trump! Do you realize how much power the president has? He hasn't finished the campaign and he's already threatening to put Amazon under anti-trust investigation because he didn't like the Washington Post's coverage. He's literally threatening to set law enforcement after media organizations for negative coverage!!

*looks at how little Obama accomplished even with all of his executive orders*

Yeah, so much power indeed.

At least Trump is hated by Congress so hopefully nothing would get done.

The same congress controlled by Republicans who so effectively united to prevent him from getting the nomination, and even once he did, never walked back their criticisms of him at all?

You are the dumb-ass that thinks a professional liar is good so long as you agree with the lie they speak. Why don't you drink more kool-aid? Your cup is empty.

And you're the dumb-ass who wants to hand the Presidency to Trump! Do you realize how much power the president has? He hasn't finished the campaign and he's already threatening to put Amazon under anti-trust investigation because he didn't like the Washington Post's coverage. He's literally threatening to set law enforcement after media organizations for negative coverage!!

3000 people per day who die in car accidents just in the USA alone

So your claim is over one million car deaths per year in the USA? I have to call [citation needed] on that.

Because in 2014, USA deaths in cars, motor cycles, bicycles, and pedestrians all together were 32675.

... that should be grounds for your insurance company to jack up your rates when you come up for renewal.

Same goes for doing anything else reckless while driving, like watching a movie (obviously excluding guys who self-nominate for the Darwin Award, like this guy).

Of course, if you play while driving and don't brag about it, your insurance company will never know. But that's the "real" idea here: We don't want to encourage others to drive unsafely, and when you brag about driving unsafely, it tends to encourage others to do the same.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, pal - or did you forget how the left wing was blaming the Gabrielle Giffords shooting on "tea party rhetoric"? If the left wing can do it, what makes you think the Right won't learn from their playbook?

Seattle traffic is utterly awful. The public transportation is quite nice (compared to other U.S. cities at least) but the traffic is abysmal and has been getting worse. The city has ranked in the top ten cities for worst traffic for a while now. The geography and city layout pretty much makes it impossible for the traffic not to suck.

Besides, all that 911 needs to know is that there's a medical emergency. They can tell the location from GPS even if they can't tell it from the noise level.

Don't count on it. Also, have you ever tried to find your friends at a concert once it's already started? Do you think people who have never seen you before are going to have an easier time of it?

Yup. My first Japanese car (a Subaru) lasted fourteen years. That's longer than both american cars I'd owned previously, put together, twice over, and then some. And it never broke down. The only maintenance I did were the scheduled services recommended in the manual, and replacement of consumables like tires and brake pads. The same can definitely not be said of the Ford or Chrysler. For that matter, I could have gotten a few more years out of the Subaru. But it was due for a new set of brakes plus a timing belt & water pump. The cost of that was more than the value of the car. And I'm more of a city than outdoors person these days, so the mileage penalty of all-wheel drive doesn't make sense anymore.

My rule now is that to even be worth consideration, the VIN must start with the letter "J". Anything else is a non-starter.

Yeah, it would be impossible for a Subaru to have a problem, like "Subaru is recalling 48,500 Legacy and Outback models for total steering failure" . So maybe your anecdotal experience is not the same as data! Funny that you would claim your Subaru is more reliable that Ford, as the data from this dependability study says that Ford beats Subaru in dependability. Neither are stellar, but the data certainly doesn't back up your experience.

30 shooting fatalities per day, and 230 non fatal shootings. That seems pretty "routine."

The implication of the original commenter, and your implication, is that guns are causing violence and because so many guns are around violence is routine.

However, according to the FBI Uniform Crime Report, a significant fraction of murders were criminals murdering other criminals, and a nontrivial fraction of homicides were justifiable homicides by police officers or citzens (i.e. self-defense).

So if you want to persuade me that guns are causing violence, please find some data that leave out the criminals, and see if you can figure out somehow why a guy who would be willing to shoot someone to death wouldn't also knife someone or beat someone to death. (The US not only leads the world in gun homicides but also in homicide by "Fists, Feet, Etc.; see this table.)

So if guns were more expensive and harder to get, there'd be more shootings?

Boy, if you think I actually said anything like this your reading comprehension sucks; and if you think this is a clever reframing of my argument your reasoning skills suck.

Violent criminals, mass murderers, and jihadis all have an unusually high desire to get and use a gun. If you think you can pass any laws that would guarantee these people could never get a gun, then please explain why guns that are not legal in Paris were used in the Paris massacres. For that matter, please explain why crack cocaine can still be found on the streets despite it being completely banned in every state. The people who really want to get guns are going to get them, even if you manage to make it impossible for law-abiding people to get them.

Also: if guns actually caused crime, then places that enacted gun control should have less crime. However, I am by far more likely to be shot in Chicago or Washington, D.C. than in the largest cities in my own state, and that's true even after adjusting for population size.

If you want to convince me that gun control laws can prevent crime, show me a place that was violent, enacted gun control laws, and became peaceful. No such place exists, just as no city with a large population of crack addicts has managed to enact any laws that got rid of the crack.

most shootings don't happen in gun free zones

Here is a report with data that strongly suggests that mass murderers prefer gun-free zones. It's a report that was issued to counter another report that erroneously claimed that most mass murders don't occur in gun-free zones.

leaded gasoline and Reagan's war on impoverished people (what all "wars on poverty" end up as, just Reagan didn't even hide it) lead to peak numbers in the '80s, and so a falling after will happen

Oh, I see. Leaded gasoline, Reagan, and guns cause crime; and the impact of leaded gasoline and Reagan was so profound that the rate of violent crime is falling, even though it is actually increasing as the number of guns increase. It's just that the increase from guns is hidden inside the decrease from leaded gasoline and Reagan.

Well, how could anyone argue with an analysis like that!

go and do your school home work, your mum is getting your dinner ready

Kinda hurts when the facts that keep coming out totally bitch-slap your head-up-your-ass "he wasn't a radical Islamic" claims, doesn't it?

FBI 'highly confident' Orlando killer was radicalized

FBI Director Comey: "highly confident" Orlando shooter radicalized through internet

Orlando shooting: attacker appeared to be self-radicalized, says Obama – live

You can either pull your head out of your ass and realize this loon was an ISLAMIC homophobic loon, or you can keep living on a planet that doesn't have a blue sky.

Because right now reality is laughing at you.

You can either grow up and start living in the real world or you can remain deliberately blind.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/... And that was a trained policeman who shot one of his own by mistaking him for the assailant. Or the admission of someone at the Gabby Giffords shooting who said he came very close to shooting someone who had wrestled the gun away from the attacker. http://www.slate.com/articles/... You really need to stop believing movies are reality. If you don't have situational awareness you hurt more than help. And if your in the thick of an attack you don't have it.

It happens all the time. The problem is though, is that it's not a MASS shooting if the wacko is taken out quickly. If no one, or just a few people get hurt, the news hardly reports it. As for the level or training... about 7% of the US population are military veterans. So if you have a group of even 15 people, then on average, one is trained Vet. Not to mention off duty law enforcement and other trained civilians. As mentioned, most active shooting happen in gun free areas. If Chris Mintz had a gun, he probably would have been able to stop the Oregon community college shooter and also not been shot himself 7 times for trying without one. http://www.usatoday.com/story/... We don't need gun control, we need crazy people control.

> Bernie Sanders was the only major candidate so far in my lifetime who wasn't bought and paid for by the corporations

According to his FEC filings, Sanders is paid for by Google, Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, and by the post office (tax money).
https://www.opensecrets.org/po...

Bernie also has quite a few illegal contributions:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/...

Clinton is paid for primarily by Wall Street. As I recall, 8 of her top 10 donors are investment firms.

Reality TV star Donald Trump has largely paid for his own campaign so far. He's spent less by making ridiculous statements to get free press.

I should have Googled before posting. It seems NHTSA has already been to visit Tesla and remind that that such clauses that say you can't talk to NHTSA are not legal and if they don't remove them immediately Tesla is going to get a rectal exam from NHTSA.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/...

You might laugh, but that clause is what got NHTSA involved, a joint falling apart in a single car is not cause for them to get involved but that clause drew their involvement and it's going to result in a full investigation of this issue. It would have taken dozens of people having the same issue and some of them getting hurt of this type of issue to normally get in front of NHTSA but Tesla's illegal agreement put them right at the front of the pack. This will hurt Tesla, and their own lawyers did it to them.

The opportunity to influence events and control destiny is irresistible. And it should be expected, anticipated, and so diminished and ultimately defeated.

Hillary is plainly an unindicted felon, a reasonable conclusion given the public statements made so far by so many credible sources. While it may disrupt the election and cause much chaos politically if she were in fact indicted, and worse if she were convicted, more likely she will be either pardoned or merely escape indictment. No action will bring all of the involved institutions into disrepute, but most of them already enjoy terrible reputations with the public, so there is little lost there. And the powers that support her are without shame or conscience, either believing they are in the right to implement their agendas, or they will take power by any means. No one should be surprised if she escapes judgment and stands for election. You who would challenge my assertion that the public record is sufficient to find her at least under substantial suspicion of criminal acts should avoid trolling me on this - my mind is made up, and if you have not already examined the record, you are not likely to do so now, and I understand. Hillary can win in November if she gets enough Berners to give in and vote for the lesser of two evils - Corruption v. Not Liberal.

Trump is, first, not a Republican. No, he is not. But he is much less a Democrat, and if he planned to run an insurgent campaign from the beginning, he certainly would not oppose Hillary with a party in total accordance with her candidacy. He has been masterful in his campaign, but that is not a good thing for the GOP. His appeal is only heightened by the abject failure of GOP leadership to actually function as an opposition party in Congress. Whatever the reasons, the GOP leadership has abdicated that role, and are now merely figureheads maintaining their personal power, prestige, and wealth. Trump is being the authentic Donald Trump, a creature New Yorkers know well, and he has mixed business acumen with instinct and opportunistic actions to wear down his opponents. Successfully. he is invincible if he can navigate the next 5 months without a major gaffe, and if he can successfully isolate Hillary and paint her with her own brush. Maybe.

The GOP primary was decided when Trump stated on Fox News that "His (Ted Cruz) father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being — you know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous", and no one, virtually no one challenged such an unsupportable, plainly fantastic and questionable claim, I don't doubt that Ted Cruz met with his advisers and essentially asked why, in a campaign where the truth no longer matters, should he try to run on a platform of anything rational when Trump can say literally anything without being called on it.

The only question for the general election in November seems, now, to be which side the media will choose, since that is the side that will win. And Google, Facebook, et al are the new media, same as the old media.Of course they will exert their influence and control to their own advantages, severally and individually. How do we, individuals, survive this? By being as suspicious of all media as we are of all politicians and business. They are all out to manipulate us. Know this when you read or listen or watch them, always.

Don't you mean an impossible standard

Well, the USPS are still there 10 years later, so it must be possible. I, for one, expect nothing but the very best from our benevolent and omniscient government. If they can decide, how I should pay my doctors and what medicine is good for me, if they can know, what foods are healthy, how children should be reared, Internet-service provided, and retirement financed, they can certainly figure out, how to pay for their own workers' retirement. Especially, since they are exempt from some of the local laws (like parking regulations) — NYC alone gets over $100 mln in fines from FedEx and other private companies every year, but not from USPS.

And make it a model too — for the knuckle-dragging KKKapitalists to follow!

Seriously though, the required prefunding , which you Statists like to talk about so much, protects taxpayers, who'd be on the hook to pay for these government workers otherwise. Hasn't Detroit taught you anything? We do not owe employees of private companies, but postal workers work for us. This is why USPS is — and ought to be — treated differently from the "Fortune 500" companies.

you amusingly stupid mucksavage

And here come insults and name-calling. I think, I'll retire from this thread before you escalate to throwing of feces and banana-peels. Remember to logout.

why hasn't that popped up in his past? Discrimination lawsuits? Sexual harassment cases? Workplace violence or intimidation? Anything like that?

All the things like that, yes. It turns out that Trump currently has been sued over 3,500 times. As near as anyone can tell, no other POTUS candidate has ever even come close to that figure.

Personal favorites are the one where he was employing illegal immigrants on his construction jobs, and the one where he used a positively "Clintonian" turn of phrase to argue that just because he said he was developing something doesn't mean he was one of the developers.

Kids aren't allowed to play outside in Maryland, neighbors call the cops on them for "free ranging their kids". http://www.usatoday.com/story/... Enjoy, I think a judge finally tossed it, but this is MD in a nutshell.

Disbar the plaintiff's lawyer.

FTA:

The printer's buyer was Gersh Zavodnik, a 54-year-old Indianapolis man known to many in the legal community as a frequent lawsuit filer who also represents himself in court.

Not sure how they disbar the guy if he's not a lawyer...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/...

Because inferior electric cars cannot compete on their merits against the clearly superior gas powered cars.

Plus they are lemons too.

Ah here we are

For many consumers, part of the hesitation to embrace new technologies surrounds security, or their perception anyway that these solutions are somehow less safe. For its part, the Visa payment ring prototype takes advantage of “tokenization” technology similar to what is used in the Apple Watch. A unique digital identifier is used to process payments without exposing actual account details on the ring itself.

Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/baig/2016/06/02/visa-shows-ring-olympians-can-use-pay-rio/85308242//

So according to visa they do in fact contain a microprocessor and according to the videos they work with standard terminals using the standard contactless payment methods.

Texas and California are two of the four states with the most "action-level" lead test results. Some Oklahoma cities have among the highest lead levels in the country.

The map shows cities in all of EPA regions 1-5, and none in regions 6-10. It seems likely that the Guardian staff simply started working their way through audit results, and stopped when they had enough material for a story.

Sounds like you invested in them, financially if not emotionally. 10 secs of searching shows they're under federal investigation for fraud, and have themselves invalidated 2 years of tests basically admitting it was all bogus.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/1...
http://www.businessinsider.com...
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/08b1...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...