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Re:So?
Which western countries are these?
America , UK, Canada , Australia and, NZ because they have similarly structured Family law courts.
White men are the highest suicide rate in the Western world at 77% in the US, that's a lot of evidence against the existence of white male privilege.
Divorced men (not just white men) are eight times more likely to commit suicide than divorced women. It's called divorce rape for a reason. Being married is a very risky proposition for a western man, you can literally have everything you have worked your whole life for, taken from you.
so I'm interested to know if this claim has any statistical basis.
Family law in western society make it easy for women to behave very badly on the way out of marriages. I've had women lawyers tell me how weighted against men family law is so it is little wonder that men are checking out when they discover they are sold a lie that they invested all their time and life into.
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Re: Cop can stand by the side of the road. Every
It seem it doesn't work as well as you think:
https://vancouversun.com/news/...
Proves my earlier point of posting signs warning users of cameras decreasing the effectiveness of the fine system.Of course, you could use more drastic measures, go Singapore style are start using corporal punishment, of even more draconian and cut off fingers used to text while driving. I'm sure that would have some incremental success (you don't see many people spitting gum on streets of Singapore, do you), but do you really want to go there?
But don't worry, I know no western politician stands a chance allowing a private company to make money, even if it would save lives. Federal Medicare officially admits there is abover $5B worth of fraud occurring each year, but until Obama there was only 3 full time people with little budget allocated to it, while constrained to laws which forced Medicate to pay all claims with 30 days, verified or not. Obama increased the budget significantly, but still just a drop in an ocean. Try to pass a law that any company which can crack down on Medicate fraud can keep 50% of the savings, and you'll never get it passed. Today's social movements prefer to loose $5B of taxpayers money rather than losing $2B and paying $1.5B to some private company. Welcome to the 21st century.
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Re:Did he REALLY die?
Did he actually die...?
Just think about the implications of $137mil of untraceable funds that aren't strictly controlled by any national regulations.
As many as 115,000 account holders are owed $250 million, which is locked up in “cold storage” only accessible to the recently deceased founder and CEO, Gerald Cotten
At the time of the bankruptcy filing, QuadrigaCX held 26,500 Bitcoin worth $120 million, 430,000 Ether worth $60 million and several million dollars worth of Bitcoin Cash SV, Bitcoin Gold, and Litecoin, according to court documents.
QuadrigaCX’s troubles started early last year when CIBC froze accounts affecting 388 customers worth $28 million, citing confusion about ownership of those funds. Those funds were finally released by an Ontario court in December, according to a statement from QuadrigaCX.
Just days later, Jennifer Robertson announced that her husband Gerald Cotten, 30, had died of complications due to Crohn’s disease in India on Dec. 9, while opening an orphanage.
So already we seem to be looking at a gap of 250 - (120 + 60 ( +28 ? ) ) either 30 or 60 million if I'm reading properly, and then in the midst of these legal issues he's off in India opening an orphanage when he suddenly dies.
Then again this shouldn't be a subject of debate. It's not the 1800s, if someone dies in India the body is repatriated as a standard practice.
If there's a body it's trivial to confirm it's him and it lays some really ugly speculation to rest. If there's no body then a new batch of questions pop up.
Btw, I'm guessing the identity of those "lost" coins are known, if he were faking I don't think he'd be able to dip very far into that bank before people figured out what was happening.
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Establishment Thinking v. Invisible Hand
Canadians have few options for TV. It's basically Bell, or one cable company (the 3 big cable companies have carved up each city, so they don't compete against the other)
With high prices, limited selection of channels, and ongoing high rental fees for boxes (required for each TV in the house) it's not surprising that Canadians are pirate-friendly.
Netflix has proven that customers are willing to pay for content when the price is right.
Pirating and cord-cutting should be the canary/coalmine to Bell that they need to adapt, but instead, they continue to ignore the silent protests of their customers.
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Re:Wondered
Sure. You go ahead and read the story on it, you'll have to read the full case for all the details. You can go find it over on canlii.org now you go have fun with that. You should also go read back through Barbra Kay's columns because she covers these type of stuff often.
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Re:Wondered
Oops. Guess that thing called reality just comes crashing down for you again. You can also dig back through Barbara Kay's column pieces on fake claims and find them too. You likely don't know who she is either.
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Here's 7-11 for you
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Re:I know the feeling
and this one:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com...
and this one:
http://www.vancouversun.com/bu...
I mean, I could keep going, but I feel like I've made my point.
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Re:Climate has never not been changing.http://www.vancouversun.com/te...
64 temperature records smashed in B.C.
Weather experts are now predicting June will be Vancouver's hottest on record
Vancouver Sun June 30, 2015
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Vancouver is different
Here it's impossible to own a home because government let 30,000 *millionaires* immigrate in past several years (through another province, if you are Canadian you can guess which one without clicking the link
:). You don't have to imagine what that number of rich people can do to real estate market, just visit this link and have a look.Meanwhile, developers are in rush to use every inch of remaining land to build huge skyscrapers filled with shoe-box sized condos for the growing renter population and sell them to investors who then rent them for hefty monthly stash. Over 80% of Vancouver west population are renters!
If you are not millionaire and you want to live here you better be single, looking for some active life (biking, hiking...) - in other words, not really a homey family type. Who needs those for healthy demographics anyway, eh?
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McD's been doing it for years
Until recently, McDonalds and Tim Horton's in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) have been doing this sort of thing for years. Usually in the form of 'minority hiring' that shuns the citizenry. They got their hands smacked soundly over it, and now are being watched like a hawk.
URL Reference here:
http://www.vancouversun.com/li...Now Microsoft is going to do it en masse, taking away the positions from Canadian citizens that have been training here...
There will be a reckoning over this one.
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Re:Not a win
3. is clearly supposed to be evidence for the claim in 1. - you don't have to think it's good evidence, but it is at least clearly about the claim in 1.
We need to correct our generalizations elsewise
http://blogs.vancouversun.com/...
Men are rapists.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
Women are husband murdershttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
Women will cheat on you if you have a big penis.https://www.ministrymagazine.o...
Men are christian and battle with their sexuality.See the problem with taking one thing and applying to everyone? You're going to piss off a lot of people who had nothing to do with what happened, even if they have something in common like religion, or gender. You need the support of these people to stop these things.
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Re:Canadian Acid Rain from US Coal
So how do you feel about BC ports being used to ship US coal to China to be burned?
http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Opinion+Coal+exports+from+sent+shorten+lives+China/9027426/story.html
And there is an effort underway to build a new terminal here in Washington state to send a lot more coal to China. I see a couple of coal trains a day go by my office window on the way to BC, but if they build the local terminal they want to send a dozen coal trains a day to be shipped to China.
To be burned. So the pollution can come right back to us.
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Re:No no no
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Re:Slightly misleading.
He closed the Vancouver Marine Traffic Control Center while planning on increasing oil tanker traffic by at least an order of magnitude. He also closed Vancouver's Kitsilano coast guard station as it only did almost 300 (271 in 2011) rescues a year serving perhaps the busiest recreational harbour in Canada as the one at Sea Island was only 45 minutes away under ideal conditions. Should be easy to hold on for an hour when your boat flounders.
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Federal+government+closes+Vancouver+Kitsilano+coast+guard+station/7987072/story.html
Our neighbours view on our oil spill readiness, http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2013/12/03/canada-unprepared-for-oil-spill-in-strait-of-juan-de-fuca/ -
Re:Sucks to be them.
BC has had a carbon tax since 2008, applied in a revenue-neutral fashion to push down income taxes. Our carbon emissions are down 7.7% since 2004.
http://www.vancouversun.com/business/2035/carbon+driving+down+emissions/8473417/story.html
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More good numbers
http://www.vancouversun.com/touch/story.html?id=8632074 It would be nice if we could track the information on this kind of stuff more closely like out friends up north.
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Re:Preventing publication...
Just out of curiousity, how do the Saudis prevent outside researchers from publishing their research?
The Saudis are refusing to provide samples to researchers unless the researchers sign agreements restricting what they can say and do:
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Re:Genius judge
Vancouver's HootSuite took some flak a few months back over the issue of unpaid internships.
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Re:Trademark law
CISCO tried, albeit through criminal proceedings.
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Re:10 years does not fit the crime
I thought so too until I read this:
Chaney also targeted two women he knew, sending nude pictures of one former co-worker to her father.
The women, who both knew Chaney, said their lives have been irreparably damaged by his actions. One has anxiety and panic attacks; the other is depressed and paranoid. Both say Chaney was calculated, cruel and creepy.
When I hear movie and modeling celebrities giving these long stories about how their lives have been destroyed by having nude photos made public on the internet, I wonder whether that's what the district attorney told them they'd have to say to get a conviction. After all, how many of those celebrities would pose nude for Playboy or Vogue at a time when it would be good for their career?
However, distributing nude pictures of co-workers, who are private persons, is something else again, and sending nude pictures to a woman's father is the kind of outrageous behavior that can get the judge to throw the book at him. And it makes me lose a lot of sympathy for him.
Still, 10 years does seem harsh when compared to the sentences for violent crimes.
And how many years did Murdoch get?
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Re:Slashdot-worthy?
Per:
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/earthquake+hits+Haida+Gwaii+Region/7459506/story.html... the second largest to hit the country since 1949, when another earthquake was recorded in the same area with a magnitude of 8.1.
Emphasis mine
So no.
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Re:Before we get the usual gaggle of fascists
People react to the culture in which they're brought up. And even in the Middle East, it's a small proportion of Muslims acting in the way rightists here want to depict all Muslims as.
Yes, this is clearly a problem of "rightest" depiction of the actions of Islamists.
Pakistani minister puts bounty on anti-Islam filmmaker's head
Egypt's president elect Mohammed Morsi says he will try to free Blind Sheikh
Mohammed Morsi, Egypt's president elect, on Friday appealed for the release of one of Osama bin Laden's closest associates, a call sure to alarm critics worried about the direction he will take the country
Interview with Father Zakaria Botros, 'Radical Islam's Bane' - An interview with the Coptic Orthodox Priest with a 60 million dollar bounty on his head from al Qaeda.
More: Michael Coren Interviews Father Zakaria Botros 'Radical Islam's Bane'"Here are two brother countries, united like a single fist," said socialist Hugo Chávez during a visit to Tehran last November, celebrating his alliance with Islamist Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Che Guevara's son Camilo, who also visited Tehran last year, declared that his father would have "supported the country in its current struggle against the United States." They followed in the footsteps of Fidel Castro, who in a 2001 visit told his hosts that "Iran and Cuba, in cooperation with each other, can bring America to its knees." For his part, Ilich Ramírez Sánchez ("Carlos the Jackal") wrote in his book L'islam révolutionnaire ("Revolutionary Islam") that "only a coalition of Marxists and Islamists can destroy the United States."
As an atheist, I have no dog in this fight, except one: I want to live in a peaceful world.
You want to live in a peaceful world, and al-Qaida and assorted Islamists want you to live in a Muslim world. I expect that neither of you will get your wish unless enough people prefer any peace, even the peace of the graveyard, or the "peace" of slavery, to the long term struggle to defense genuine peace a freedom.
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Re:A true American
That's funny, I've spent some time in Canada and Germany and I find both the personal, and business culture to be much more approachable and not substantially more expensive (sometimes cheaper).
Where were you? Spain? Belgium?
Places with a culture of "work to live" are really different than places with a "live to work" culture like is prevalent in the US. It certainly does take some adjustment, but as someone who left the US a number of years ago, I'm really glad I did.
http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Labour+shortages+Canada+lure+workers/6992936/story.html
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Re:Only in America!
They also spend quite a bit of resources confiscating Kinder egg surprise (50,000 a year according to an article I read), because there is an "unintuitive" toy inside the chocolate egg and a child may swallow it
It happens a lot because they're legal in Canada, actually.
But you don't want to carry them over the border - the guards can get pretty damn nasty over a bunch of toys.
Kinder Eggs are legal all over the world, except of course the US.
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Re:Only in America!
They also spend quite a bit of resources confiscating Kinder egg surprise (50,000 a year according to an article I read), because there is an "unintuitive" toy inside the chocolate egg and a child may swallow it
It happens a lot because they're legal in Canada, actually.
But you don't want to carry them over the border - the guards can get pretty damn nasty over a bunch of toys.
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Re:Harper gov't has politicized the environment.
Here is a source to the law you mentioned for streamlining approvals as well as cutting the CBC, which generally favoured the Liberals. Harper had a rough time with the media in the beginning, especially with the CBC, but now with a 5-10% cut in funding, the CBC will have a harder time criticizing him. In fact Harper has made it a priority to cut 10% from every department in government, while cutting corporate tax cuts by a few percentage points again in the budget.
In fact all of what you said from my reference is true. The NDP in Alberta are tied to their "Mother Party" in the East and support a "paced growth in the oilsands" - wtf does that mean?. The Liberals in Alberta are much better but are a dead duck anyway here because they are tied to their cousins in the East. The Wildrose are like the Rhinoceros party: They make wild claims, but have no way of backing up how they are going to do it but generally sound good, just like Stephen Harper sounds good to the uniformed. i.e. Wildrose: We will "fix healthcare". How? We will "end homelessness in 2 years". How? According to polls here in Alberta the Wildrose have gained ground, but in Alberta, you can't just do stuff like not support the oilsands and expect to get elected. You are right as well, at least Federally, there is no alternative, especially for Albertans. -
Ha! In Canada you get off free
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Drunken+Abbotsford+wash+themselves+wash+without/6410075/story.html
A few guys in a city not too far from Vancouver got off with a warning. In the US, you get stomped, arrested, thrown into a dozen different lists that make day-to-day life humiliating, unbearable, etc. Why do people in the US hate their own bodies so much? -
Re:useless trivia
followup #1:
followup #2:
followup #3:
FP!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHARGARBBBLE
(how'd that happen?)
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Re:Strip Search Time!
My, my, it seems that some Canadian authorities have a deep fascination for what might be found in ( 15000 ) rectums
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Class+action+sought+against+Vancouver+police+department+over+strip+searches/6408727/story.html -
Re:What about ladyboys/shemales?
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'first presidential Blackberry'
'first presidential Blackberry.'
Perhaps also known as the last presidential Blackberry. Of course, parts of the government still favor Blackberry, but then apparently parts still like floppy drives too. With the recent
/. posts on DOD Androids (not the kind that lead to Skynet comments) and the like, one wonders how much longer even this will last. -
Re:Canadian Tire Money
Canadian Tire is switching to a loyalty card/rewards system. They'll still take the funny money, but you'll get a better return with the card: http://www.vancouversun.com/story_print.html?id=6156461
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Re:OMG! OMG!
An Apple boycott would be silly, as just about any other manufacturer (Dell etc.) have their stuff manufactured over there too.
Apple is the first tech industry to join the FLA which is currently visiting China. First impression: Conditions are better than the norm:
http://www.vancouversun.com/business/technology/Apple+iPad+factory+conditions+better+than+norm+agency/6162817/story.htmlBert
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Re:Really?
Don't you know ? You can be held as a terrorist if you use this phrase; this guy certainly regretted it : http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Blow+away+competition+text+lands+Muslim+Canada+jail/6099224/story.html
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Re:Translation from Canadian CorpoSpeak
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If the level of competition in the Vancouver area is any sign of what a duopoly can be, bring it on! ...Except you can't count Telus as a choice for most Canadians because Telus really, really sucks. Like a Hoover.
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Re:Translation from Canadian CorpoSpeak
Don't forget the West Coast Shaw and Telus duopoly.
If the level of competition in the Vancouver area is any sign of what a duopoly can be, bring it on!
I live in Ontario, where our duopoly just teamed up to buy the Toronto Maple Leafs and the CEO's appeared at the news conference looking like best friends. It seems not all duopolies are created equal. -
Re:But
as a canadian, i feel it necessary to interject on this whole pipeline-is-a-good-idea theme. with estimates that by 2020, greenhouse emissions from the oilsands alone would exceed combined emissions of all passenger vehicles on canadian roads, and the damage being done to the surrounding land and fresh water supplies, i find it really difficult to label the pipeline as "a good idea" simply because the whole oilsands project is still a colossally bad idea.
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Re:China Will Win: Kids There Play With Cadmium No
This is why the west will never catch up with China. They are so forward thinking and innovative they have had their kids playing with Cadmium, Lead, and other heavy metals for years now. How can we possibly compete?
Yes yes, but the real question is, if it's spreadable, will it stick to the roof of your mouth?
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China Will Win: Kids There Play With Cadmium Now
This is why the west will never catch up with China. They are so forward thinking and innovative they have had their kids playing with Cadmium, Lead, and other heavy metals for years now. How can we possibly compete?
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Re:Wrong approach, where it's used not made.
or [the US could] compete on quality like the Germans
Does that mean the US will get to impose hundreds of anti-dumping duties on Chinese imports like Germany?
EU extends China anti-dumping duty for barium carbonate
EU levies stiff anti-dumping tariffs [on ceramic tiles]
Chinese exporters regret EU anti-dumping duties on Chinese-made screws, bolts
Germany's SolarWorld expects anti-dumping complaints vs China
EU Hits China with Anti-Dumping Duties on Paper
EU greenlights anti-dumping duties on Chinese light bulbs
EU Extended Anti-Dumping Duties on Chinese Bicycle ImportsYou see, while German manufacturers and workers are busy competing 'on quality', as you say, the German government is actively protecting domestic industry from competition with China throughout the EU. German manufacturers and German workers do not have to compete with disposable Asian workers and indifferent health/safety/labor/environmental regulation.
The 'oh-noes trade war' sentiment that we get from pro-business types and Chinese ministers is a farce. We're in a trade war. We're getting our clocks cleaned. That is the real reason we have thousands of 'business' degree graduates in their late 20s shuffling around trying to 'occupy' Wall Street. The US no longer provides the real growth necessary to accommodate them. They are surplus people; their futures went to China.
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Re:A little late
the Artic has lost 14,000,000,000,000 metric tons of ice in the last 30 years.
Give me the denominator, not just the numerator
:)if we melt all the ice, people will die as a result.
Random speculation. If we melt all the ice, people will live as a result too. Now try and convince yourself that more people will die than live.
I'd love to know what you think is causing this if it's not CO2.
Natural climate change, of course. We don't have any deterministic model of course (as it is a stochastic system at heart), but we've had these kinds of natural variations long before humans were significant actors on the planet (assuming they are now).
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Re:OMFG, what BS
Seen this (newspaper link here)?
The giant computer company Cisco and U.S. prosecutors deceived Canadian authorities and courts in a massive abuse of process to have a former executive thrown in jail, says a B.C. Supreme Court judge.
The point, said Justice Ronald McKinnon in a stinging decision delivered orally on Tuesday, was to derail a lawsuit launched by the former employee, and involved a series of machinations that would make a normal person "blanch at the audacity of it all."
In a rare move, McKinnon stayed extradition proceedings against Peter Adekeye, a British computer entrepreneur who once worked for Cisco Systems, Inc.
The judge said U.S. prosecutors acted outrageously by having the respected executive bizarrely arrested in Vancouver on May 20, 2010 as he testified before a sitting of the American court he was accused of avoiding.
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Re:Police?
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Link to Conservative promise to monitor internet
First mention of bundling "lawfull access" (aka monitoring) and crime bills for passage within 100 days.
http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Conservative+majority+would+bundle+crime+bills/4580146/story.htmlLink to Conservative platform containing the promise
http://www.conservative.ca/media/ConservativePlatform2011_ENs.pdf
Search for "100 days"Subsequent comments:
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/blogsection/0/126/10/10/"The first prong mandates the disclosure of Internet provider customer information without court oversight. Under current privacy laws, providers may voluntarily disclose customer information but are not required to do so. The new system would require the disclosure of customer name, address, phone number, email address, Internet protocol address, and a series of device identification numbers.
While some of that information may seem relatively harmless, the ability to link it with other data will often open the door to a detailed profile about an identifiable person. Given its potential sensitivity, the decision to require disclosure without any oversight should raise concerns within the Canadian privacy community.
The second prong requires Internet providers to dramatically re-work their networks to allow for real-time surveillance. The bill sets out detailed capability requirements that will eventually apply to all Canadian Internet providers. These include the power to intercept communications, to isolate the communications to a particular individual, and to engage in multiple simultaneous interceptions."
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Re:I don't understand how this is 'orchestrating'
The issue here from the article is twofold:
Where "the article" is statements from Multiven executives.
At the same time Cisco also identified to a US prosecutor that a hacker had broken into there computers and was fleeing to Canada- indicating that they had evidence.
And the DoJ and State seemed to think that the evidence had merit. Are you disputing that the evidence suggests he committed the crime or merely insinuating that?
I want to make clear that I'm not stating that I think he did it. I'm just saying there is a normal extradition/trial process that we ought to follow to figure out whether he did the crime, same as any other criminal that is accused of a crime. He does not deserve special protection merely because he is involved in a civil suit with the potential victim.
This is why we have procedures for arrest/extradition/trial -- so that we don't have to judge individual cases on an ad-hoc basis but instead have a formal system of justice. Canadian procedural protections in the extradition process are relatively strong, so I really don't get the complaint.
The US prosecutor has not been able to present the evidence of this hacking attempt so that Canadian authorities can send him to the united states to face trial, and they have been so slow at responding to this statement that the Canadian authorities are accusing the US prosecutor of having grossly exaggerated the concreteness of the charges.
No, the guy's attorney has made that accusation -- the Crown maintains they acted within the scope of the extradition treaty. From an article linked by TFA:
U.S. prosecutors colluded with computer giant Cisco Systems, Inc., to mislead the Canadian government and B.C. courts into invoking emergency extradition powers to jail a British computer entrepreneur, B.C. Supreme Court heard Monday. [...]
"Almost nothing in the U.S. attorney's letter was true," Vancouver lawyer Marilyn Sandford told Justice Ronald McKinnon Monday. She called the U.S. conduct careless, cavalier and Kafkaesque in her application to halt the extradition so Adekeye can return home to his wife and child in Switzerland.Of course, if that accusation is true then it would be damning. On the other hand, if the Crown/DoJ's accusations are true, the guy is guilty of hundreds of felonies. This is why we have a procedure to sort out which (if any) set of charges is true and which are false -- because a priori there's just a bunch of unproven statements.
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Re:Close... It is actually hype-reel fools.
Actually, it is leaking, through an 8" crack.
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Re:Sounds like a headache
"Look at these pictures from my city (Vancouver, Canada). I have lots of friends raising families in the city"
Are you fucking kidding me?
Perhaps if your friends are super rich they can afford to live in vancouver city proper. MOST people with kids live in the suburbs, unless they live in their parents old house or some other stroke of luck. There was even an article on it in the tyee recently: Vancouvers Downtown Chases out kids
Not to mention the fact that EVERYONE drives in the lower mainland.. EVERYONE.. Taking the transit is simply not an option as its between 3.75 to 5.00 each way from any suburb. Which is MORE than it costs for gasoline on the same trip, even with gas being 1.31/L currently. Source
Vancouver is HORRIBLY designed. We have very poor density compared to many other urban centres, with sprawling "vancouver special" houses which are built wide, not tall due to regulations. You have these choke points of bridges which clog up and waste tonnes of time every day. Even in my 7km commute to downtown (read BARELY in the suburbs), generally takes an 30-45 minutes in rush hour. And thats using plenty of shortcuts.
Now these condos you mentioned, from your image it looks to be olympic village. Want to know what it costs to live there? Go take a look: Olympic Village Pricing. You will see that it costs 500k -1M for a 2 bedroom 800sqft apartment in your "city planners with vision" utopia. How the fuck is that affordable for a family???
Sure if you think its a good idea to raise a family in an 800sqft shoebox with only concord pacifics Ãvisionà of "shared green space" (2 acres for like 10k people to relax in) Source. But honestly, i think you are rich, terribly deluded, dont have kids over 4 years old, or simply misinformed.The bottom line is that you are wrong to use vancouver as a good model of anything sustainable or affordable. Vancouver, where you cant get a 1200sqft house for under 850k. Vancouver, where there is a whole site making fun of the fact that you cant tell million dollar houses from crack house.
Vancouver has a LONG way to go before it is hospitable to families or even pedestrians! When was the last time you walked to surrey from downtown? To burnaby? To richmond?
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Re:A sheet of plastic is not "foil".
Although Wiktionary has allowed the use of "foil" to describe transparencies, Webster still hasn't allowed that usage of the word.
Dude, when "OMG" and "LOL" get added to the Oxford Dictionary, it's too late to start worrying about what's "allowed".
Let's face it, if they're just adding "rotoscope" and "suicide door" to the lexicon (both words which have been around for ever), a dictionary isn't always definitive on what words people are using in practice.
You can now be free to make up geek-bonics as you please.
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Re:And...