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So glad the March elections went well.
Diebold officials,
... maintained its machines are safe, secure and demonstrated 100 percent accuracy in the March election.
Firstly, bullshit. Nothing's 100% accurate. Secondly, I don't care about one single election that happened to work. I want a process that is proven and well tested, independently, in stressed situations. Because March-in-Cali may've worked, but Jan-in-Maryland was a complete disaster ("I was really surprised with the totality of the problems we found. Just about everywhere we looked we found them,"
"We could have done anything we wanted to," Arbaugh said. "We could change the ballots (before the election) or change the votes during the election."
They also were able to perform a man-in-the-middle attack, which involves intercepting votes being sent by modem to the server, changing the votes and sending on the new votes to the server.
(More on the Maryland disaster at Wired. Amusingly enough, Diebold claimed that this validated their machines as capable to handle further elections. -
Re:Finally...
Worse than just having an apparent interest in the outcome of the elections, Diebold managed to trip over the safety valves that are supposed to make sure no company can tamper with the results for any reason.
The software they ran, everywhere in the state, on election day was not the version that they submitted for certification. You just can't skip these kinds of checks and expect to be treated like your software is honest, because these reviews exist because we're just not going to take anybody's word for it.
At best, they cut a corner they weren't allowed to. But worse yet, they undermine their credibility in claiming that we can trust that they're not going to attempt to fix what is likely to be an extremely close election in November. -
Re:The Real Reason
Nothing Diebold ran during the primary elections turned out to have its certifications in order. They got caught running an uncertified version of their software on the day it most counted.
The list of violations is just plain piling up, and in an industry where one use of uncertified software is too many to be tolerated. -
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Finally...
Myself and my family are from Napa, CA (one of the cities that had some serious problems with Diebold), and I can't explain how frustrating it is to not be sure if your vote was counted properly or not. For democracy to work, you must have faith in the security and validity of the elections. Diebold has seriously undermined this, especially in my hometown. The jokes and grumblings have been raging, not to mention the rumors of the end of our Registrar of Voters' career. Although "no harm, no foul" has been claimed, confidence has been undermined, which IMHO, is one of the most important aspects of a good democracy.
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Re:emerge gator
The user bought Windows+IE, and knew they were getting it. They consented. And people have known MSIE is unsuitable for internet use since the mid 1990s.
Ever tried buying a new computer recently without a copy of Windows pre-installed? And while I would agree that MSIE has shown itself to be flawed beyond redemption, you can't get rid of it and Microsoft make it compulsory for access to Windows Update (which, surprise, also requires ActiveX). So yes, Windows and Microsoft are a key part of the problem here with stupid design enforced by monopolistic practices - but that problem is then being exploited by third parties. This is analogous to the situation with spam where spammers hijack insecure mail relays. You try to educate the relay administrators but you legislate against the relay abusers.If they knowingly buy crapware that automatically installs other crapware, then the second wave of crapware isn't the real problem, is it?
Not all "crapware" comes with a neon warning sign - or even an EULA for that matter (reread my example above re Bonzi and iGetNet). Some adware does come with warnings but the really objectionable stuff (see Nasty Malware Fouls PCs With Porn for an example) does not.But how are you going to get anyone to want to install it? Users will Just Say No. How are you going to get distribution maintainers to include it? They're going to Just Say No also.
You get installations in the same way you do in the Windows world - you piggyback it with a (supposedly) useful utility. If the user is unaware that it comes with spyware and their PC starts acting up later on, how are they supposed to know who to blame? -
Assassination PoliticsI would suggest (from my cozy jail cell) that you assassinate the spammer by anonymously raising a bounty on his likewise-sociopathic head.
Sincerely,
Jim Bell--
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Wired news article today
About a particularly nasty form of spyware.
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Life, Liberty, ACLU, Slashdot, and Hypocrisywas Cool
Perhaps while the ACLU is in court that could pick up a copy of the Bill of Rights, not their edited 9 adm one, one that has all the adms in it.
I don't know why this is "-1 Troll." The parent post has a valid point about the hypocrisy of the ACLU.
Wired reported in another story about a lawsuit against the government for it's failure to destroy certain database records (emphasis added):
Gun Groups Take Aim at Database
04:45 PM Dec. 01, 1998 PT
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The [National Rifle Association] claims that federal law requires the agency to destroy all records immediately after checking a prospective gun buyer's name against its list of people not permitted to purchase weapons.
If the NRA wins in court, the Justice Department will no longer keep personal records, but the FBI's computer will continue to process names before permitting gun purchases -- a system that has other gun-rights groups crying foul.
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The Justice Department first proposed storing information on gun purchases for 18 months for audit purposes but recently shortened that to six months following a public outcry.
"The department determined that the general retention period for records of allowed transfers in the NICS Audit Log" should be six months, the agency said in a 30 October statement. It also said that "such information may be retained for a longer period if necessary."
Keeping personal information on file is absolutely necessary, said Nancy Hwa, spokeswoman for the advocacy group Handgun Control.
"We've always favored having a system of licensing and registration in the first place. We should treat guns like cars. If people want to buy [a gun] they should be trained in its use."
Privacy advocates should wake up to the threat of databases of gun owners, said Lisa Dean, vice president of the conservative Free Congress Foundation.
"Privacy groups should take a stand. It's critical that privacy groups look beyond the gun-control issue and start looking at exactly what this is going to mean to them in the future," Dean said. "This is numbering and tracking citizens."
Liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union and the Electronic Privacy Information Center have not opposed the FBI's plan to record personal information about gun buyers. EPIC director Marc Rotenberg likened the plan to driver licensing, adding that privacy safeguards should be in place.
Yet Slashdotters bitch and complain when the state of Florida wants to retain driving records for 3 months.
Nadine Strossen, president of the ACLU, has stated that
our view has never been that civil liberties are necessarily coextensive with constitutional rights. Conversely, I guess the fact that something is mentioned in the Constitution doesn't necessarily mean that it is a fundamental civil liberty.
Never mind. I know exactly why it was modded "-1 Troll."
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Re:Don't buy diamonds now
You probably read this article from Wired.
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Re:Google going in many directions
A recent Wired story hints that Google will be using some of their IPO proceeds to acquire some of the best API developments. Interesting... are the Google Web APIs nothing but another channel in Google's search for the world's best computer scientists?
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Re:Free iTune download
Get 'em while they're hot--er, or before they melt?
Or, thanks to you, get to their page before the server reaches supercritical connection mass from the slashdotting and turns into a melted pool of plastic and silicon substrate leaking through the raised floor in the datacenter.
I know a good concrete guy that can put the sarcophagus over the datacenter if the place explodes... -
"Biggest jigsaw in the world" - not even closeAlthough I understand that putting together 1186 eroded fragments of stone making up of just 15% of the total map is difficult, I still would think that reconstruction of the former East German secret police (Stasi) archives is a bit more demanding.
16000 sacks of shredded paper and 600 million individual scraps of paper seems a bit more demanding task.
Probably most of the same algorithms would apply to both problems.
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Re:noisy
Well, here's yet another link that says..
But from the outside, it's no noisier than your typical icebox. The noise generated by the Penn State fridge can only be reached when the gas is under tremendous amounts of pressure -- 10 atmospheres worth. If the gas escapes, the pressure dissipates and the sound dies down. -
Where's the Klingon?{thanks for the link- wow, this is just a few hundred of the languages we've come up with... the other Solomon Island Pidgin is also interesting. Very Ridley Walker without the science fiction.}
looks like they have Interlingua and Esperanto both of the "planned international auxiliary language" category. But nothing says universal like "planned interplanetary auxiliary language," and it looks likes there's as many Klingon speakers as there are Matsés speakers, so where is it? But I guess they haven't finished the Klingon Shakespeare yet.
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3 months vs 6 months vs 18 monthswas ONE good thing
They say they'll destroy the data after 3 months. While this whole thing reeks evil to me, at least [they say] they're not going to be storing all this info in perpetuity.
On a related note from a few years ago, when various so-called "privacy" groups didn't care.
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,16561,00 .html
Gun Groups Take Aim at Database
04:45 PM Dec. 01, 1998 PT
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The [National Rifle Association] claims that federal law requires the agency to destroy all records immediately after checking a prospective gun buyer's name against its list of people not permitted to purchase weapons.
If the NRA wins in court, the Justice Department will no longer keep personal records, but the FBI's computer will continue to process names before permitting gun purchases -- a system that has other gun-rights groups crying foul.
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The Justice Department first proposed storing information on gun purchases for 18 months for audit purposes but recently shortened that to six months following a public outcry.
"The department determined that the general retention period for records of allowed transfers in the NICS Audit Log" should be six months, the agency said in a 30 October statement. It also said that "such information may be retained for a longer period if necessary."
Keeping personal information on file is absolutely necessary, said Nancy Hwa, spokeswoman for the advocacy group Handgun Control.
"We've always favored having a system of licensing and registration in the first place. We should treat guns like cars. If people want to buy [a gun] they should be trained in its use."
Privacy advocates should wake up to the threat of databases of gun owners, said Lisa Dean, vice president of the conservative Free Congress Foundation.
"Privacy groups should take a stand. It's critical that privacy groups look beyond the gun-control issue and start looking at exactly what this is going to mean to them in the future," Dean said. "This is numbering and tracking citizens."
Liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union and the Electronic Privacy Information Center have not opposed the FBI's plan to record personal information about gun buyers. EPIC director Marc Rotenberg likened the plan to driver licensing, adding that privacy safeguards should be in place.
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Re:Yeah, yeah...I just wish one of the big patent powerhouses like MS or IBM would step up and drive a challenge against the existing patent status quo
I don't know about MS, but why in the world would IBM do that? "IBM raked in $1.6 billion in intellectual property license fees" in 2000 (value of patents vs. copyrights unknown).
Of course, "raked in" might be overstating it a tad when they had gross revenues of $88 billion that year, but I bet it's basically sheer profit.
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Re:None to trial?
"Are we supposed to take it that all of those have been settled (supposedly by paying the RIAA)?"
Most have. A few have been dismissed (the most famous is the grandmother who has a Mac). At least one has countersued. But for the most part they've been paying up.
A good way to avoid being sued by the RIAA is to not dump 1,000 copyrighted songs into your Kazaa share directory. A good rule of thumb is "if you are not sure if you have the right to redistribute something, don't."
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Anonymous speach is an important privacy right.Non-Authenticable sending is an important privacy right.
Just because someone has a problem with giving their email address to unscrupulous spammers doesn't mean they should start whining to remove freedoms.
IMnsHO the answer is on the receiving end - people should learn not to give out emails to everyone if they don't want to get spammed.
For an interesting article, check out Wired
" In times past, anonymous speech sheltered the Founding Fathers' revolutionary arguments and emboldened commentators such as Mark Twain (aka Samuel Langhorne Clemens) to criticize common ignorance.Last April, in MacIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission, the US Supreme Court reaffirmed that the First Amendment protects the right to anonymous speech. Anonymity, the court reasoned, helps speech stay free. Focusing on political speech - the sort of speech that lies at the core of the First Amendment - the MacIntyre ruling stipulated that restrictions on anonymous political speech must be narrowly tailored and serve an over-riding state interest. "
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Re:after reading the interview
...he's set up a false dichotomy (100,000 engineers vs 284 million Americans, when it really should be 100,000 engineers vs ~100 major stockholders).MOD PARENT UP!!!
This is one of the most insightful things I've seen regarding the whole us v them mentality of the fair use advocate v *AA.
I'd love to hear Valenti (who defends an industry that thrives because of piracy) respond to that. And since when is it wrong to have public policy aimed at the 100,000 when the 100,000 are right - and the policy they advocate does nothing to harm the 284 million.
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Re:Check those numbers, please
The AOL-TW merger was proposed at $124 Billion.
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Re:Solve the world's problemsIn fact, industrial application of Fuel cell technology will be done before consumer application. In an industrial setting, refueling Hydrogen is less of a problem than in a car for example.
Ontario mine tests fuel cell locomotiveusing fossilized hydrocarbon is certainly not the only way to create plastic. Here are some examples:
Plantic Technologies will roll out a cornstarch-based bioplastic wired article
Bioplastic Fantastic
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Old news...
This is really really really old news... The University of Washington group that developed this was written up in wired in 1995.
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Re:Java is a good fit
For more on Curl... A lot of big-names are behind it Wired writes" "Curl's development team includes the "father of the Internet" Tim Berners-Lee and MIT tech luminary Stephen Ward. MIT tech guru Michael Dertouzos, who died in August, was also on the team."
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What about the Government?
How about spyware installed not at your computer, but on your Internet connection? At your ISP for example. Say... Carnivore?
And what if the thing enabling the spying is not reporting back to somewhere, but is just a way to get in?
Is intentionally weak crypto spyware? The NSA limited publicly available key length to 56 bits, explicitly because it's easy to crack, up until 1999. -
What the crap?
The Guardian (and several other news outlets) report on the attempt by Professor Paulo Galluci and his team to build a working model of Leonard Da Vinci's clockwork powered car, designed in 1478.
Um, how does "several other sources" translate into only two other sources?
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Crap!
The bigger news here is that the Wired article also contained my obituary!
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Re:This is a very bad trendWhat about the good old days when knowledge belonged to the world, and people put out their works for everyone else to use?
You know the good ole days weren't always good
And tomorrow ain't as bad as it seems
-Billy Joel
Those "good old days" were the days when your parents worked their asses off to provide stuff for you to use.
Patent disputes have been going on as long as there have been patents - Hollywood was founded in California because IP law wasn't strictly enforced in California, (like it was in New York) and so the MPAA could get around patents on the film camera. -
karma burning
Grrr. What kind of chicken shit randomizing process does Slashdot use to select its stories?
So I find out a company called Forgent Networks is suing over 31 leading software and hardware vendors like Apple, Dell, IBM, Kodak and Xerox over JPEG patents, take the time to find the patent and link it, and my story get rejected. But a "boo hoo I'm stressed" story is accepted. God, I have to get rid of this shit.
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Dot bombed 4 years ago, not 2.5"got abducted by aliens for the past 2.5 years and so didn't experience the dot bomb."
The dot-com crash occured in April of 2000, which is 4 years ago (NASDAQ crash), not 2.5 years ago. This is when the recession started.
Those of a certain political pursuasian like to blame the recession on Bush when it actually started under Clinton, so this misperception is common.
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so you prefer the Neilsons?
How long before we find out that Time Warner and the rest of the cable companies are collecting viewing data? How long before all networked TV devices are collecting this information?
This is one area where I'm cool with data being collected on me and my habits. In fact I'd like to see better demographic information associated with the viewing data TiVo is collecting. I'd like to see the Neilson ratings go the way of the buggy whip.
Much of the Neilson's data is still collected using a paper and pen. They also employ some more high tech methods but those still require some manual intervention and have produced some questionable results. -
5 convicted felons at Diebold management positions
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Re:One question:
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Re:Versions; Are you sure? Source?
It looks like the grandparent's information is coming from this article (or a related one) from December about the audit that uncovered the version problem. This document indicates that version 1.18.18 was certified in November, a month after the October elections in question in the article. Even your document dates to two months after the election.
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Re:Research (can be) smart business.
But for Boats- it apparently works nicely. No need to store or transport the gas, as you're manufacturing it in the vehicle from the surrounding environment.
Wired Article on a sailboat that uses a solar/hydrogen secondary engine, complete with "regenerative sailing" by spining the electric motor when under sail. -
Tanks with electric force fields - Why not planes?
ummm.
Tanks with electric force fields - Why not planes?
http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,54641,00.ht ml
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BILL GATES NEVER SAID THAT! MOD PARENT UNFUNNY!
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Re:But...
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A Special Message For John Ashcroft: +100, High
Burn one to protest John Ashcroft, Theocrat
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In Related News
Well, maybe not, but while we're on the subject it's worth a look.
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Re:Fraud"Do we really have to wait until someone is caught rigging a major election before real efforts are undertaken to stop it?"
Because these machines don't produce a paper trail, it will be almost impossible to catch someone rigging an election. Whatever numbers the computer spits out are the final numbers, that's it. Even when the number of votes is 10 times the number of voters (as in Evansville, IN) there is no way to recount.
There is circumstantial evidence showing election fraud here in Georgia in 2002. Our incumbent Democratic Governor and a Dem incumbent Senator both had 10% leads in the polls the week of the election. Both lost. Warehouse employees have reported that Diebold patched thier systems after the elections board had certified the software on them. Diebold certainly isn't doing the rigging themselves, but their incompetence may be letting someone else do it.
I recently read a great quote from that champion of Democracy, Joseph Stalin - "The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do."
News of the GA 2002 election:
wired.com
scoop.co.nz-B
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Re:Is Linux doing well in Munich?Wired has a more detailed story.
You can also read Client study for the state capital Munich, Executive summary of the final report which outlines the options and strategy for the upgrade.
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Re:Is Linux doing well in Munich?
Google points that they haven't deployed yet:
Munich Migration Hits Speed Bump
Munich Linux migration hits serious snags, Users finding Linux learning curve steep, city council calls for investigation
Munich Open Source Plows Ahead
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Re:Why convert to hydrogen?
Well, flywheels are used to store kinetic energy. And they can be made pretty darn efficient at it. There was a 1996 article in Discover magazine about a man named Jack Bitterly that wanted to use the darn things to power automobiles. In many ways, that article probably instilled my resolve to later get a degree in engineering.
Here's an "update article" from 2000 in Discover about it.
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Detroit parking meters
Detroit is rolling out high tech ones too
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How much did they settle for?
The press release doesn't say whether it was the full $65million or some smaller amount, or how long Verisign would have to pay. Google News has pointers to one or two versions of the press release, plus Slashdot (:-), plus a Wired article that has the press release but also speculated that the settlement is probably a lot less than the full boat, and some comments on Kremen's attempts to track down the assets of Cohen the name thief.
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Re:Sky high rates?
Do cell phones actually interfere with airliners anyway? I mean c'mon -- are the systems onboard a modern aircraft really so fragile that my cell phone will bother them?
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Re:The real purpose of Diebold
Riiiight. Exactly the compassionate, conservative response one would expect.
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Smoke To Protest Bush: +1 , Patriotic
Burn one to protest The War On Everything
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"It doesn't matter" -- B. Gates"You don't get it. It doesn't matter".
Supposedly this was Gates rejoinder to Steve Jobs when the latter said, "We're better than you." Gates knows in this case that throwing a bit of cash to Minnesota to settle the suit doesn't really matter, either. It's the same Machiavellian insight as to what it takes to win his grand strategic goals at the cost of a few tactical losses. "Oh, I over charged you for the years between 1994 and 2001? So sorry. Here's a 30% refund in 2004. Thanks for the 70% I get to keep! (And the time I needed to eliminate my competition, hehe...)".