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Sony PCG-U1

hexdcml writes "Just found this whilst browsing, Sony has now brought out the My Little Vaio range, (probably for rich kids..tsk) All I can say is WOW, this thing is tiny. Makes me wanna ditch my lurvely little iBook and get this! The site's in japanese, so you'll need to translate (for those how are non-japansese literate) using Babelfish or something." Dynamism.com has specifications in English.

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  1. Awesome by kwishot · · Score: 0

    The miniature notebook, or the ultimate PDA? You be the judge! =)
    FP

    1. Re:Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Way to big to be a PDA, not even an HPC style one. So it is a notebook with the start up time of a (low end now)notebook and the keyboard of a PDA, what a great combo!!!

    2. Re:Awesome by Frag-a-Gates · · Score: 0

      Miniature?! This thing is bigger than a car!

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    3. Re:Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like its about the size of a Newton, and that was the ultimate PDA, right?

      :)

    4. Re:Awesome by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

      The ultimate wireless dumb terminal!

  2. If only... by newerbob · · Score: 1
    ...I had tiny little Japanese fingers!

    Seriously, the Japanese always seem to have cool small-form factor electronics that are not sold here. I guess there's no market for them.

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    1. Re:If only... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      It's designed for thumb typing (a pretty thumb idea if you ask me).

    2. Re:If only... by arivanov · · Score: 2

      Completely agree. I have encountered the "sausage fingers" problem on a PCG-C1F since day 1 (C1F is the oldest pre-Crusoe Picturebook). This is almost twice smaller. It will be almost unuseable by anyone but 5 year old kids.

      On this one I would need to hire a 5 year old kid and dictate to him and get sued for using child labour...

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    3. Re:If only... by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 2

      It's nice twice as small- it's the same dimensions more or less except it's not as wide- i.e. the width of the keyboard is less. The screen is proper aspect ratio though, which the C1XX were not.

      graspee

  3. Sony == DMCA. Bad people. M'kay? by eddy · · Score: 0, Troll

    Sony == DMCA. Bad people. M'kay?

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    1. Re:Sony == DMCA. Bad people. M'kay? by chriso11 · · Score: 1

      This doesn't seem like a troll to me. Just a reminder of what Sony really is about! Remember the aibo incident.
      Sure, Sony makes some neat stuff. But I would not buy anything from them.

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    2. Re:Sony == DMCA. Bad people. M'kay? by homer_ca · · Score: 2

      Maybe Sony pays people to read Slashdot and so they can mod down anti-Sony comments. Personally I thought the OP was legit too. Sony==RIAA+MPAA

    3. Re:Sony == DMCA. Bad people. M'kay? by eddy · · Score: 2

      I'm somewhat biased sure, but I can assure you all that I was not trolling (trolling for what?!)

      Supporting these corporations is simply the Wrong Thing To Do, which needs to be pointed out, repeatedly, for the "DMCA baaad. Ohh.. shiny things"-crowd.

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    4. Re:Sony == DMCA. Bad people. M'kay? by _Knots · · Score: 2, Interesting

      While I'm no fan of Sony as a company, one has to admit that they occassionally do something right.

      It might be better if Sony's revenue stream dropped off entirely, but I consider 2nd-best to be a relocation of its revenue stream away from music. Since fewer computers (especially these things) will be sold than CDs and at a narrower profit margin, buying one of these as opposed to the eqivelant price in CDs gives Sony less money.

      Ok, so I'm an apologist. I confess, I thought of buying it. EEEEEEEEE. I feel so dirty. ::goes to take a shower::

      -knots

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    5. Re:Sony == DMCA. Bad people. M'kay? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is just a reminded of what idiots are about.

    6. Re:Sony == DMCA. Bad people. M'kay? by MsGeek · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Why the HELL is this a troll?

      People! Sony is a member of both the RIAA and the MPAA. They are known for some very rapacious behavior. And yet! Every time something kewl comes out from Sony like the newest Kawaii VAIO, people drool all over their dorks over it.

      I don't buy Sony ANYTHING at this point. You shouldn't either.

      Do your fsckn worst to this post...I'm well over the cap. And, dammit, I'M RIGHT!!!

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    7. Re:Sony == DMCA. Bad people. M'kay? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree with you. Yet the people who bitch about the DMCA are (mostly) the same who want to go see Spiderman and have a SONY ABIO or this VIAO.

      And no matter how big a clue stick you use to wack these clueless gets will hand over thier money for things like the VIAO and go see that movie so they have something to talk about on AIM.

    8. Re:Sony == DMCA. Bad people. M'kay? by JimPooley · · Score: 2

      It might be better if Sony's revenue stream dropped off entirely

      Yes. I'm sure the tens of thousands of people whose livelihoods depend upon Sony would agree with you...

      'Oooooh! They don't want us to openly thieve! They're so eeeevillll!!!'

      Fuck's sake!

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    9. Re:Sony == DMCA. Bad people. M'kay? by _Knots · · Score: 1

      I take no issue with the anti-theft provisions of the DMCA - the idea is "good." What isn't good is the anti-1st-ammendment provisions.

      Just because we *can* copy something, the crime is *NOT* the ability to copy, but rather the copying itself.

      A sag in (especially music and movie) revenue of Sony might teach them a lesson. Or, more likely, they'll blame the pirates, collect insurance money (yes, they do!), and go on lobbying for more civil-rights-reducing laws. Now that's evil.

      -Knots

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    10. Re:Sony == DMCA. Bad people. M'kay? by _Knots · · Score: 1

      Actually, I Know it's bad form to reply to myself, but I *do* take issue with the anti-theft provisions of the DMCA.

      Personally, yes, I think artists should be paid for their work. HOWEVER, I have not yet read a convincing argument that digital copying (not moving) constitutes theft.

      Sorry for self-reply.
      -Knots

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  4. Looks pretty ridicluous by tarzan420 · · Score: 1

    Looks nice, but why would you need such a thing? Does it do anything a palm or other pocket pc wont do?

    1. Re:Looks pretty ridicluous by Devil's+BSD · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes. You can play Unreal Tournament/Half Life/Quake III/Your Favorite Game Here. Try that on a Palm. And this sure beats the processing power of my TI-89's 10 MHz MC68HC360.
      Bad thing is, though, that when someone tries to steal it from you and you hit them with it, it's too light to leave a lasting imprint.

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    2. Re:Looks pretty ridicluous by MisterBlister · · Score: 1

      It runs Windows XP, so you dont need to deal with the crappy 'Pocket' versions of apps, run the real Win32 thing.

    3. Re:Looks pretty ridicluous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...it looks pretty ridicluous (sic) and nice!

    4. Re:Looks pretty ridicluous by PepsiProgrammer · · Score: 1
      Yes, if your gonna run a bloated MS OS on your handheld, why not run the most bloated of them all.

      Like I always say, if your gonna do something wrong, make sure to do it right.

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    5. Re:Looks pretty ridicluous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of the things about Japanese that always confuses me it the whole comfort factor. PalmOS based machines are pretty much nonexistant, except for the Clie's. Sharp has this organizer that I see everywhere.

      For them, the small laptop is like a cellphone, something to do while passing the time on the bus. If you notice, (I read Japanese) the input method like a cell phone is used in stead of a keyboard.

    6. Re:Looks pretty ridicluous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you can kind of play quake/quake II on a pocketpc... :)

    7. Re:Looks pretty ridicluous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't use it as a general-purpose computer, but it's just what I've been looking for to use as a not-too-obtrusive peripheral for my stereo. Use it to drive an Extigy external sound card, hook it to the network to get all the MP3s from the server in the basement, and you've got yourself something that looks good in the living room and doesn't take up too much space.

  5. The Article from Dynamism by Devil's+BSD · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sony's latest prototype, the PCG-U1, is a wonderful and exotic piece of technology. The "U1" is the smallest and lightest model of the entire "Vaio" series. Indeed, it has long been Sony's conception to shrink a full-featured laptop into an always-carry device; they have succeeded with the Vaio U1. The entire package, including a Crusoe 867 MHz processor, 6.4" (XGA) TFT-LCD, 20gb HDD, 384mb RAM (max), weighs merely 1.8 pounds, and boasts an incredible footprint of only 7.3" x 5.5". The U1 is designed for easy operation even if the user is holding it in a standing posture. Assuming use with both hands holding the chassis, the PC has a "wide-stick" for the thumb of the right hand which functions as a mouse cursor. The left thumb rests on a button that works as the left and right mouse buttons. There is also a built-in zoom function, which works at the touch of a button. A scrolling "Jog Dial" is also mounted above the keyboard, and integrated ports include a PC card slot, firewire, LAN, a headphone/audio output. Additionally, a pair of built-in USB ports and a VGA output allow the machine to double as a desktop unit. The U1 demonstrates why Sony is recognized, even by hardened competitors, as the world's leader in miniaturizing consumer devices. Any individual, company, or organization could find a unique use for the U1. Whether the needs is for an eye-catching model unlike anything that has come before, or a powerful tool for use by a sales force out in the field, the Vaio U1 is an unprecedented and unrivaled powerhouse in an ultra-small package.

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    1. Re:The Article from Dynamism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      since when is a copy/paste insightful?

    2. Re:The Article from Dynamism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I take it you're new here.

    3. Re:The Article from Dynamism by scotch · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      I take it you're new here.

      No, Anonymous Coward has been posting to slashdot as long as I can remember. His User Id must be low, but I can't seem to figure out what it is.

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    4. Re:The Article from Dynamism by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 3, Funny

      "since when is a copy/paste insightful?"

      when it's a translation

      graspee

  6. *drool* by Sir+Homer · · Score: 0

    All I can say is DAMN! Mommy mommy buy me one!

    1. Re:*drool* by fwankypoo · · Score: 1

      Is it just me, or do the post and the sig contradict each other? ;)

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  7. OK it's cute but.. by distributed.karma · · Score: 1
    The keyb looks way too small. Doesn't seem too good for typing. And if your computer's input stream is crippled, what use is the whole thing? I mean, you could buy a dedicated mp3/dvd portable just as well.

    Then again it does look k3w1 and it has a Crusoe.. *wipes off drool*

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    1. Re:OK it's cute but.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two observations -

      1. Japanese are apparently VERY fast at typing with their thumbs, due to the small form factor cellphone/email devices that they have. This thing is huge compared to a cellphone.

      2. This device has a ThumbPhrase feature, where you start typing a word in kana (japanese syllablacy) and it offers a window of kanji that completes the word. So to type watashi (I) you are probably only typing wata, which is 2 keystrokes (wa is one character, ta is one character). Even without that feature, watashi is only 3 keypresses.

      So I'd guess for the market for which it is intended, it is not crippled at all.

  8. *ching ching* by kwishot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    With a base price of $2199....umm...yyeeeaaaahhhh
    A 128mb RAM upgrade is.....$399

    A toy for the rich kids is right!

    1. Re:*ching ching* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no built in CD
      thats an extra US$599

    2. Re:*ching ching* by t--f-c · · Score: 1

      the japanese price is actually just around $1150 or so... Dynamism always costs an arm and a leg, the mini camera they have for sale (the SpyZ I believe) that they sell for $139 actually costs $65 I'm in the process of trying to get this machine, check out http://shop.conics.net/sony-vu/ for a more reasonable price (no affiliation nor knowledge so caveat emptor)

    3. Re:*ching ching* by Neil+Blender · · Score: 1

      I just bought a used sony Vaio super slim PCG Z505SX for $300. They used to retail for $2600.
      Today, I upgraded the RAM with a 128M chip that only cost $40.
      Give it a few years and you'll be using it like a PDA.

    4. Re:*ching ching* by FrenZon · · Score: 4, Informative

      With a base price of $2199....umm...yyeeeaaaahhhh

      So buy it for USD $1329 from here, instead. Looks like a shop in Japan that ship direct to you (as opposed to Dynamism's ship to them then to you)

    5. Re:*ching ching* by t--f-c · · Score: 1

      actually the gentleman who runs conics just goes and buys it from a shop and sends it to you, I've been emailing with him since this machine came out last week or so... not too different than Dynamism, but definitely cheaper, I'm just curious about his rep, haven't been able to find anything about it yet..

    6. Re:*ching ching* by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 2

      I worked out the yen to ukpounds and it came to about 750 ukp, which is at least half, if not one third the price it would be if it were available in the uk...

      I missed buying one of these in Tokyo when I went last week as I didn't have enough money with me. It hurt. I have vowed to return...

      I just hope I get away with taking an empty laptop bag with me and claiming I took it with me if I get my bags inspected on the way back; Putting English ver. of XP on it while out there would help my argument.

      graspee

  9. how are non-japansese literate ? by Software · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    for those how are non-japansese literate
    Can you say try again, in English?
  10. In case it's slashdotted: by CmdrTaco+(troll) · · Score: 0, Funny

    Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted!

    Reason: Please use fewer 'junk' characters.


    Sorry, can't do it.

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  11. Noicvre, buiut././/. by oever · · Score: 5, Funny

    tjhe kleybpoard ois a vbit as,mall

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    1. Re:Noicvre, buiut././/. by zzzmarcus · · Score: 1

      I have a Psion Revo (http://www.silverfish.cc/psion) which has a much smaller keyboard. I was skeptical about being able to touch type on it, but after some practice, I'm up to over 40wpm with decent accuracy. I'm 6'7" so it's not just because I have small hands.

    2. Re:Noicvre, buiut././/. by nwanua · · Score: 1

      Wait a sec... isn't this _designed_ for kids? I bet the KB is the perfect size for a nine year old's paws. It seems miniaturization works best for children after all :-) so from that point of view, the KB is just the right size.

      Oh you wanted to use it too? Heh, I guess you'll just have to use your pinkies to hunt around.

      BTW, WTF is mo-bai-ru-cu-ri-ku-su-tai-ru? (mobile click style)??? What does that mean? Any ideas?

    3. Re:Noicvre, buiut././/. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      BTW, WTF is mo-bai-ru-cu-ri-ku-su-tai-ru? (mobile click style)??? What does that mean? Any ideas?

      I presume it means you use it like you use a mobile phone (with the thumb).

  12. And I thought I liked the Fujitsui Lifebook by chriso11 · · Score: 1

    Up till now I was trying to rationalize getting a Fujitsu.
    Lots of websites on how to put linux on it and it also comes with a DVD/CD-rw. That and 5 hours on the optional battery....

    I'm not a laptop guy - they are like infants - although the actual package is small, all the other junk you need to bring along: power supplies, extra battery, mouse, network cord, phone cord, teething ring...
    Right now I have a Dell c400 which is small, but still a monster next to the transmeta types.

    Oh well, after the recession. I promise I won't waste the next upturn!

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    1. Re:And I thought I liked the Fujitsui Lifebook by chriso11 · · Score: 1

      Try this link. Doh!

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    2. Re:And I thought I liked the Fujitsui Lifebook by Benley · · Score: 3, Interesting

      all the other junk you need to bring along: power supplies, extra battery, mouse, network cord, phone cord, teething ring...

      I feel the same way about laptops in general - there are some out there that solve almost all of this, however. Personally I carry the following:

      • white ibook
      • thin little ethernet cable
      • power brick (into which apple conveniently put cable management)
      And that's it. Nothing else. Occasionally I bring a mouse, but not often.

      I suppose that leads me to a point about this Sony laptop we're supposed to be discussing: no builtin ethernet, no builtin wavelan, no builtin modem. Hmm. That would drive me insane, as I would end up carrying two or three pcmcia cards and their dongles around with me, and that's when things get broken in my backpack. I'd forgive it if it had builtin wavelan. In fact, that would be marvelous. It doesn't, however. And, I might add, I actually had a Sony SR7k (followed by an SR27k) for a year and a half, and I sold it in favor of an iBook for this exact reason. Oh well.

      Moral of the story: I'm keeping my iBook. :) You can have it when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

    3. Re:And I thought I liked the Fujitsui Lifebook by t--f-c · · Score: 2, Informative

      uhm check again.. there is built in ethernet, and considering how fast the 802.11x is changing, I would prefer the pcmcia wireless

    4. Re:And I thought I liked the Fujitsui Lifebook by vyin · · Score: 1

      > I suppose that leads me to a point about this Sony
      > laptop we're supposed to be discussing: no builtin
      > ethernet, no builtin wavelan, no builtin modem.

      Did you read the specs? One of the integrated ports is a "LAN RJ-45 x1" which presumably means ethernet is included.

    5. Re:And I thought I liked the Fujitsui Lifebook by Benley · · Score: 1

      Whoops, my mistake. I did read over the specs on Dynamism's website, and I must have missed that. Sorry!

    6. Re:And I thought I liked the Fujitsui Lifebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you can keep your ibook, trust me, no one else wants it...

    7. Re:And I thought I liked the Fujitsui Lifebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Add "brown paper bag" to your list; this thing has ethernet.

  13. And the obligatory.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Imagine a beow...."

    Seriously, though, you could have a very powerful cluster in a very small space.

    1. Re:And the obligatory.... by Devil's+BSD · · Score: 0, Troll

      3 problems:
      1) Moooooola. Mega Moooooola. If 1 is for rich kids, then what is a cluster of these for?
      2) Drivers? With something this small, there has GOT to be some integrated components that are Windows Only.
      3) Maybe not as big of a problem, but cooling so many of these might be... well, hard.
      Seriously, I think rackmounts are better.

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    2. Re:And the obligatory.... by maartynp · · Score: 1

      You're kidding, why don't you try an RLX cluster [rlxtechnologies.com] They support Linux and Win2k FYI. On the other hand, I know of some small sites running websevers of of notebooks in a pinch....funny that.

    3. Re:And the obligatory.... by CajunArson · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      How about:

      I had a Beowulf cluster of these things, but they must have
      slipped out of my pocket!

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  14. gibberish by tps12 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Whilst? Lurvely? WTF?

    Seriously, I'd have to agree with the submittor here. I am all for giving your kids the best, but kids in the My First X demographic (under 8? at some point primary colors get embarrassing) don't really have a use for a laptop. Even if they did, a retired laptop (even from ebay) would probably a better choice than this product, which just screams "status symbol."

    I didn't get a current system until college, always learning on and using yesteryear's tech. It's a good way to go, b/c you don't take the cutting edge hardware for granted. I think it made me more aware of issues like backwards compatability, which is important.

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    1. Re:gibberish by MisterBlister · · Score: 1
      Look at the site...

      Its not made for kids. I guess Japanese people just dont mind owning a product called "My Little Whatever" even if they are in their 30s. Everything on the site suggests these are for the types of people who normally use laptops but just want a real small one.

    2. Re:gibberish by Nurf · · Score: 2, Flamebait


      Whilst? Lurvely? WTF?

      Um.

      "Whilst" is a perfectly legitimate English word, and is in common use by many people.

      "Lurvely" was obviously used for effect. This is a mild form of "humour". (Note that it is permissible to spell "humour" with a "u".)

      You wouldn't happen to be American, would you?

      Whatever your nationality, I suggest you travel more and read more.

      (A list of your spelling errors is omitted for brevity.)

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    3. Re:gibberish by tps12 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      (A list of your spelling errors is omitted for brevity.)

      Is this your sig, or did I actually misspell something? Other than "submittor," which is questionable but at least a valid slashdotism, I didn't see anything wrong in my first post.

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    4. Re:gibberish by rodentia · · Score: 1

      compatibility...not bad by slashdot standards.

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    5. Re:gibberish by Nurf · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      It isn't my sig. To be fair, I was being a bit imprecise. I thought talking about the other parts of your message that were a bit dubious would be boring and a bit off topic, not to mention anal. :-)

      "Submittor" is actually spelt "submitter", yes. "ebay" is "eBay". "b/c" is amusing from someone complaining about "whilst". For that matter any use of nonstandard English or jargon is asking for trouble in a comment about English you consider nonstandard. :-)

      On the whole your punctuation is probably better than mine. I don't usually care, but I have this built in need to correct people that think their English is the only English. Feel free to use your brand of English, just don't confuse it with all of English. That probably goes for things like milk, bread and Coke too. :-)

      I have heard "lurvely" used in various countries by the way. :-)

      I admit it, I saw an oppurtunity to take a dig at you (in a hopefully funny way) and I took it. :-)

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  15. Not bad by greenfly · · Score: 2

    Nice and small... not quite as small as my libretto I don't think but still small enough to make it easy to take around. Plus I've noticed that the small sony keyboard layouts are much roomier than the Libretto layout (especially the one on my 50CT).

    Unfortunately Dynamism is charging $2000 to import it. Then again, the Libretto 50CT cost that much when it first got here too.

    For those of you who like large notebooks, large screens etc. surprise! this isn't the laptop for you! Unfortunately "Texas size" laptops are more popular here in the US and small laptops like this one and the Libretto series have had to stay in Japan.

  16. Translation by Mattygfunk · · Score: 1, Funny
    One of the first words on the page that appear in english - "Microsoft Windows XP".

    Personally I would have prefered to try and decipher "Ú@ZíÅSEÅEÅOEy--Ê*ðZÀOE.

    1. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It says:
      The worlds smallest machine with Windows XP loaded. The most lightweight VAIO ever made.

  17. Whoa... by JanusFury · · Score: 1

    I'd buy one of these, makes me wish I hadn't just built a desktop system a few months ago for ~$1500. This little thing is COOL. Probably would do wonders for on-the-run workers like salesmen and road/transportation engineers.

    I wonder, does the Crusoe have MMX/SSE compatibility, etc? Is it even x86 at all? I don't know much about those chips.

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    1. Re:Whoa... by user32.ExitWindowsEx · · Score: 1

      It's capable of running x86 through Code Morphing (transparent emulation --- the system knows nothing and sees nothing). Its default ISA is x86, though it should theoretically be possible to flash out the Code Morphing software for x86 and put in Code Morphing software for, say, a G3..

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  18. I'll buy one... by Wire+Tap · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... if I mine comes with a cute Japanese girl hiding behind it. ;-)

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    1. Re:I'll buy one... by oever · · Score: 1

      Now we know why they make these things smaller all the time.

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    2. Re:I'll buy one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's a cultural phenomena, not a hygenic one.

    3. Re:I'll buy one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if the computer IS in the form of a cute Japanese girl (mang & anime series: chobits)...

      http://shop.store.yahoo.com/animenation/19315149 25 . tml

  19. Erm by Mwongozi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How on Earth do you control the mouse on that thing?

    1. Re:Erm by PeterClark · · Score: 3, Informative

      Look at the pictures; it's intended (Torvalds' mother only knows why) for two-handed use. The right side has a knob/button that acts as the pointer, while the left side has two knob/buttons that act as the mouse buttons. Although it weighs only 1.8 pounds, I wouldn't want to use it in two-handed mode for long, and this layout seems like it would be hopelessly impractical unless you also carried along a USB mouse.

      On the plus side, it looks like it would be fairly easy to defenstrate, except for the modem, which is almost certainly a winmodem.

      I've been looking at the Japanese site, trying to find out how much it costs in Japan. I'm fairly certain that it would be cheaper there. Any takers?

      :Peter

    2. Re:Erm by t--f-c · · Score: 1

      just in case my previous message gets missed, this thing costs about $1150 in Japan, and I found a site that does it a bit cheaper than arm and a leg Dynamism : http://shop.conics.net/sony-vu/ (caveat emptor, no affiliation nor experience)

    3. Re:Erm by Chang · · Score: 1

      Retail cost in Japan is 149,800 Yen.

      Yen/Dollar is around 128 and the dollar is on a downward trend. If you are paying dollars, get 'em before the price goes up.

      I already own a sweet SR series laptop, but I'm thinking about owning one of these because they are a better size for everyday mobile use.

  20. Again, Japan gets all the cool stuff. by qurob · · Score: 1


    This always happens. It's no fair!

    1. Re:Again, Japan gets all the cool stuff. by d5w · · Score: 3, Interesting
      A couple of years ago a rep. of one of the major Japanese manufacturers told me that there were at least three major reasons this stuff always showed up first (and sometimes only) in Japan:
      • The market there is (proportionally) more interested in miniaturization for its own sake.
      • The initial prices for high-end consumer electronics are higher than in the U.S., so they can afford more of a risk.
      • The market is smaller than in the U.S., so it costs less to launch something new.
      The latter two are important because the smaller devices generally involve more custom engineering, and thus have a higher initial cost and greater risk to the company.
    2. Re:Again, Japan gets all the cool stuff. by fingerfly · · Score: 1

      The first reason is key. Japanese like that way VERY MUCH.

      Why did you say it 'no fair'?

      --
      I can resist everything but temptation -- Oscar Widle
  21. Sometimes smaller is not better by geoffsmith · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The guy is typing with his thumbs! And the icons look pinhead-size. This is all very neat how we can shrink things smaller and smaller, but... ergonomics anyone? How about keeping your eyesight past your 20's?

    I think the whole PDA/Tablet PC/Subnotebook thing is in general pretty silly. For general use they are horrible. Better to get something like the Hitachi WIA with an input device like the Twiddler and keep your wrists and eyes healthy.

    Websurfing done right! StumbleUpon

    1. Re:Sometimes smaller is not better by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      It all depends on the market; smaller is great for portability, big screens are (practically) required for a "desktop replacement."

      While the trend (here in the US) IS for nicer screens, look at all the people using wheely carts to lug around their laptops! People have found an (absurd) way to manage the weight, but does it meet their needs?

      What do "most people" need to lug home / to meetings / to onsite locations? While I do use some applications that lean towards having the extra power and screen real-estate, if I could drop a couple kilos out of the messenger bag I would do it in a flash!

    2. Re:Sometimes smaller is not better by geoffsmith · · Score: 2

      Check the links I provided in my post. The solution I offered has the portability of pda/laptop/tablets (in fact, I would argue they are more portable) while still maintaining and even exceeding the ergonomics of a desktop workstation. It's the best of both worlds, whereas where we seem to be going with these small desktops is the worst of both worlds, with progressively worse display and input devices.

      I think wearable computers are the future of computing, and they are available today. The problem with this mini laptop is that they have just mindlessly scaled down a device that was barely comfortable to use in the first place. To make an interface that is usable at that size, you have to change more than just its scale.

      Websurfing done right! StumbleUpon

    3. Re:Sometimes smaller is not better by koganuts · · Score: 1

      People type with their thumbs on Blackberrys. I use my thumbs to type on a Palm i705 with mini-keyboard. I suppose with such a small laptop Sony thinks people will do the same thing.

      And Slashdot back in late March mentioned a recent study that showed that "'...the use of gadgets such as mobile phones and GameBoys has caused a physical mutation in young people's hands. The use of the thumb is a deviation from the use of the index finger...'"

    4. Re:Sometimes smaller is not better by (startx) · · Score: 1

      gotta love the engrish on the hitachi site

    5. Re:Sometimes smaller is not better by tzanger · · Score: 2

      They seriously called it the WIA?

      HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA

      Whatcha got? It's my WYE-ah! Set you on FYE-ah!

      Sorry, it's bedtime I think...

    6. Re:Sometimes smaller is not better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      kudos- made me lol!

    7. Re:Sometimes smaller is not better by OxOx · · Score: 1

      Right. So I spend 2 grand on the WIA and another 200 bucks on the input device and I'm left with what? A gizmo out of a bad sci-fi flick that has 32 MB of RAM and runs CE 3.0. Probably OK for reading /. but not much use for the sort of actually useful applications that I can run on my laptop.

    8. Re:Sometimes smaller is not better by cnoocy · · Score: 1

      The Twiddler's not ergonomic for everyone. I find it cramps my fingers (which are longer than average.) I haven't tried the half-keyboard, but that seems more likely to be usable. I'm unsure about this thing: making more use of the thumbs is certainly a good thing; they're a lot stronger than the other fingers.

      --
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  22. The flash movie was pretty cool by Sorcerer13 · · Score: 1

    but what was the deal with the "thumbphrase" what does that do, eliminate typing? Where's the mouse thing exactly, on the side? Anyway, here's the address. I don't want to mess with html, haven't done it in a while so here http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PCOM/PCG-U1/f eat2.html

  23. A PC beats a PDA any day by Alan+Cox · · Score: 2

    I've had an IBM PC110 since 1994 - similar size machine but 486 era, much smaller disk/memory and only a 486 CPU. Its still vastly more useful in many ways than palmtoilets and the various other PDA devices that people use. The PDA's are slowly getting there but the PC110 has a real keyboard, runs X11, runs x86 binaries, supports every PCMCIA driver the x86 platform in general does and so forth.

    Its close to pervasive computing - it lacks vga out to images projected onto mirror shades, it lacks a cable link down the sleeve to a chord keypad/mouse and it needs a nice microphone/earphone for voice/audio/encrpyted phonecalls via a GSM modem and 802.11 card

    1. Re:A PC beats a PDA any day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      palmtoilets??? Now really!

      I do hope you haven't sold your slashdot account to a troll...

  24. SHIT! Its too fuckin' tiny... by crovira · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    Even a kid's hand look too big on the keyboard. There's small and there's usable after fifteen generation of some, uh, serious genetic engineering.

    Man, you're supposed to use a mouse to move the cursor, not to help you type by running over the keys.

    Can you say "Tinkerbelle's PC?"

    --
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    1. Re:SHIT! Its too fuckin' tiny... by KFury · · Score: 2

      Fifteen generations? Bah. If the Japanese will bind the feet of their girls and women, why not bind the fingers and hands when they're small, to keep them compatible with the microelectronics that will fill their later life?

    2. Re:SHIT! Its too fuckin' tiny... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like Slapstick by Kurt Vonnegut, but with the Japanese instead of the Chinese. I'm going to start wearing a gas mask, just in case.

  25. almost useful by maartynp · · Score: 0, Troll

    Uhh, it looks nice, but it's almost useless. That Xmeta chip is hella slow on this dog of a machine. I had to work on one. Hate it, hate it hate it. but that's just my opinion...

  26. Cute, yes... by NickRob · · Score: 1

    But usable, no. Tiny keyboards only allow one finger at a time typing. You can't get much work done on it and it'll cramp your game playing.

    1. Re:Cute, yes... by djmurdoch · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Tiny keyboards only allow one finger at a time typing. You can't get much work done on it

      I can touch-type on the Libretto 70 keyboard which has a 14.5mm key pitch. I'd guess I could do it on this 14mm keyboard too. Once on the shuttle bus from an airport to a conference, I was sitting beside someone who thought I'd never be able to type on it. We had a race, which I won (or I'd never be telling this story, obviously).

      There was a big advantage in having the computer not take up much space, so my hands weren't as cramped as his. This is also an advantage on planes in economy class.

      and it'll cramp your game playing.

      The game playing also affects how much work you get done...

    2. Re:Cute, yes... by wirefarm · · Score: 2

      I think the local target audience is Tokyo commuters who will use it while standing on a crowded train.
      Believe me, doing that, you get good at typing with your thumbs - touch typing isn't really an option unless you manage to get a seat - in which case you are more likely to try and catch a bit of sleep.

      The small footprint will also appeal to people who have no extra desk space but want to peek at their personal mail at work or carry their MP3s with them.

      Things get crowded here - more than you'd imagine if you've never commuted to and worked in a Japanese office, so I guess that's why it's been introduced here and not in the US...

      Cheers,
      Jim in Tokyo

      --
      -- My Weblog.
  27. very pretty, and pretty amazing by blamanj · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I might even consider replacing my Newton if it weren't for the price
    ...if it had a built-in microphone
    ...and if it had decent battery life
    ...and if it had handwriting recognition
    ...and it didn't come with a bloated desktop OS
    ...and did I mention the price?

    1. Re:very pretty, and pretty amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I'd consider buying a Newton if it weren't for the price
      ...and Apple killed it off
      ...and the monochrome screen
      ...and the huge heft compared to other PDAs
      ...and the lack of good, quick synchronization software
      ...and it was actively supported by anyone beyond a few zealots
      ...and did I mention that Apple killed it off?

    2. Re:very pretty, and pretty amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and it was actively supported by anyone beyond a few zealots

      I hope you don't use linux (or worse, BSD or BeOS).

    3. Re:very pretty, and pretty amazing by lunaman · · Score: 1

      Or Newton.

  28. Nice... by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 0, Redundant

    But the words "Windows XP" stood out in the Japanese text.

    Thanks, but I'm alright with my TiBook.

    1. Re:Nice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fuck yeah... wintel books blow chunks.... ugh y would anyone want windows?

  29. My little Vaio? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'll just have to bring along My Little Magnifying Glass to be able to do anything on it.

  30. It's cool to carry a tiny laptop around... by FyRE666 · · Score: 1

    ...but not so cool to have to lug a huge pair of bottle-bottom glasses to have to wear to see the screen! 1024x768 on a 6.4" screen?! I thought the smaller (normal) Vaios were a bit hard on the eyes, but this!...

  31. very nice by Papst · · Score: 0

    I think i could give one of these a good home. Can't wait to remove Windows from it.

  32. Why you shouldn't trade your ibook for a vaio by seanadams.com · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I have a powerbook and a VAIO (model 503GCX or something). Originally I bought the VAIO because I needed a good Unix laptop, and both LinuxPPC and OSX were not up to snuff at the time. Now I've switched to OSX for pretty much everything. Anyhoo, here's my experience with VAIO vs (i|power)book:

    • VAIOs have absolutely horrible keyboards. Why do most laptop makers feel that they're doing us a favor by rearranging all the keys from what we're used to on our desktop machines?
    • the Vaio is thin, which is nice, but you sacrifice batterly life, built-in CDROM, and built-in standard expansion ports - gotta use dongles.
    • utterly useless Sony proprietary memory stick port
    • poor mechanical design. To get to the hard drive it takes about 20 minutes of carefully removing snap-in panels, and about 12 screws on the underside of the thing. Once you get the thing open, there are all kinds of little wires strung everywhere for speakers, trackpad, jog dial, etc. These have to be carefully disconnected in order to get the case open and get to the disk. Same sort of BS for swapping memory.
    • clunky power cord. the new white ibook power supplies are very slick. I wish I could get one for my bronze powerbook, but they're a little different so I hear.
    • no built in 802.11 option. Gotta have that stupid antenna nub hanging off the side.


    I don't know what kind of improvements Sony might have made since I bought my Vaio, but I can't imagine they're anywhere near up to speed with Apple yet. I'm comparing a powerbook and a Vaio that were bought around the same time.

    These are all the reasons why I don't get excited about the ever smaller/flimsier/less expandable offerings from Sony. If you want the mother of all laptops, get yourself a Mac, and take your pick between Linux (haven't tried the new Mandrake PPc yet - looks sweet) or OSX (I'm a sworn Mac convert now).
    1. Re:Why you shouldn't trade your ibook for a vaio by Hero+Zzyzzx · · Score: 3, Informative

      My Vaio SRX77 has built in wireless that works in linux, too.

      Ethernet, Firewire, modem, and USB all work in redhat too. The memory stick is VERY useless, I agree (but it works, though I don't know what it's good for. . )

      Can't comment on getting to the harddrive- not like you replace it that often. Dropping in new memory took like 5 minutes, pretty simple.

      Honestly, I think the keyboard is excellent, myself. Took me an hour or so to get used to it, but it's about as good a keyboard as I've used on a laptop. . .

      From my experience, Vaio's are MUCH better now than what you had. . .

      I tried out the iBooks, but I thought that OSX was way too slow, especially for all the stuff I do in the shell. OSX was really sluggish in the shell. . . I'm very glad I went with my VAIO.

    2. Re:Why you shouldn't trade your ibook for a vaio by glebfrank · · Score: 1

      You were actually able to get the wireless to work? Which version of RedHat was that? Was it a straight installation or did you need any additional tricks? I sort of installed Mandrake on mine, but no wireless and no ACPI :(

    3. Re:Why you shouldn't trade your ibook for a vaio by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 1

      As a past owner of a VAIO laptop.. dont do it!
      batterylife: sucks
      quality: ah..wheres that goat sex site?
      warranty: hahahahaha

      never ever will I buy a SONY product again

      'yes we'll fix it for you. It needs a new motherboard, that will be $1150'
      'But a new one at same speed is $1000!'
      'then go buy the new one'

    4. Re:Why you shouldn't trade your ibook for a vaio by Keith+Russell · · Score: 2
      I don't know what kind of improvements Sony might have made since I bought my Vaio, but I can't imagine they're anywhere near up to speed with Apple yet. I'm comparing a powerbook and a Vaio that were bought around the same time.

      Let's see. A bronze PowerBook and a Z505. Hate to tell you, but your cache is stale. Sony now has 7 models to choose from, so you can get something as feature-packed/small/expandable as you like. And if they're built anything like my XG, they aren't getting flimsier. Sony still hasn't pulled off an ultra-thin design with a built-in CD/DVD drive, so the Ti PowerBook still has that advantage. But that's about the only advantage.

      utterly useless Sony proprietary memory stick port

      <sarcasm>How dare they! Adding a feature you don't use. The nerve of some people.</sarcasm> I'm sorry, but you're triggering a pet peeve of mine. I have no use for the microphone, IR port, modem, or jog dial on my notebook right now. As long as they don't adversely affect the system (and they haven't), I can't bring myself to care, let alone complain bitterly.

      --
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    5. Re:Why you shouldn't trade your ibook for a vaio by Hero+Zzyzzx · · Score: 1

      1) Yes. 2) Redhat 7.2. 3) No tricks related to the wireless, though there were tricks related to getting the CD-ROM to work. (I solved that by booting from the CD, letting it lock up, and then CTRL-ALT-DELETE'ing it to warm reboot. Worked fine after that. . .)

      On redhat 7.2, you'll need to get the Intel VE driver from intel's site, you're internal network will continuosly lock up until you-

      1) install the updated intel linux driver, or

      2) upgrade your kernel.

      I chose 1, and everything is peachy-keen now.

      As for ACPI- yeah, there's someway to get it to work. Do a google search for "vaiobat" and you'll be able to at least check your battery level. This is the one sore spot for me, I figure the distros just need some time to catch up to Sony's wierdo implementation of this.

    6. Re:Why you shouldn't trade your ibook for a vaio by seanadams.com · · Score: 2
      utterly useless Sony proprietary memory stick port

      How dare they! Adding a feature you don't use.



      When you're making hardware, you have a certain allowance of weight, power, size, heat, r&d cost, and production cost. Why spend it on crap like jog dials and memory sticks in lieu of useful things (like an expansion bay that accepts your choice of CD-ROM or extra battery, or a full-size VGA connector, or an extra pcmcia slot, etc.). Those gimmicks are *BAD*, not merely useless.
  33. might as well ditch the iBook by ikekrull · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    since Apple obviously aren't interested in supporting even basic accelerated video drivers for it.

    I feel sorry for the poor people who paid good money for an iBook.

    This thing might have a small keyboard, but i bet it is at least able to repaint it's screen in a reasonable timeframe.

    --
    I gots ta ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long
    1. Re:might as well ditch the iBook by outZider · · Score: 1

      silly, silly.

      OS X is fast enough already.

      Jaguar has been accellerated for larger cards.

      Special accelleration does not mean obsolescence. After all, you should bitch more about having a G3.

      --
      - oZ
      // i am here.
    2. Re:might as well ditch the iBook by passion · · Score: 2

      Before you front on the thing, try it out... I've used several computers, and I'm starting to really fall in love with my iBook (the new, white version with 14" screen). In fact, I'm even using my desktop machine less and less - and that has a 21" monitor.

      -- passion

      --
      - passion
    3. Re:might as well ditch the iBook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey, man. lynx rocks on an iBook.

      but seriously folks, the mac laptops blow everything away on two points: battery life and instant wake from sleep. if you have not seen instant wake, go to MicroCenter now. those two points alone change the way you use your laptop, they change the way you think about using it, because you can open it and get stuff immediately, and then just close it, without thinking about it. My old toilet-seat iBook 466 has 63 days of uptime, with daily use. That's including at last 15 Mozilla nightly builds and an OS update.

  34. If you think that girl looks cute, by Things+To+Do+Tuesday · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I have some hoes with pretty eyes cleft palates that I'm sure you will love.

    Now, I have things to do Tuesday.

    1. Conceal face
    2. Attract deseperate web nerds

    1. Re:If you think that girl looks cute, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you add "Spare guy-who-needs-money 5 bucks" to that list?

      - Guy who needs money

  35. Sony rocks by Hero+Zzyzzx · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm typing this on a Sony SRX77 running Redhat 7.2 right now. IT'S AWESOME! 2.76 pounds, 4 hours of battery life, 1-1.5 inches thick, and fast as hell in linux.

    The install was kind of a pain, but the end result is a fast, super-portable linux box that makes iBook folks drool. I've run Apache, MySQL, and mod_perl for client demos on this, and it's pretty impressive. . .

    I honestly wouldn't want a smaller laptop than the SRX77, though.

  36. Great design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's obviously targetted at the "Too small to use, still too large to carry" market segment.

  37. Remember... by f00zbll · · Score: 1
    This is for the japanese market, where small gizmo's are hot. Just think of all the great gizmo's Japan has had the last 10 years. Most of them never reach the US. Any body who complains the tiny laptop isn't expandable is missing the point. If it does email, word processing, web browsing, and downloads photos from a camera that's all 50% of the people need.

    the /. crowd is not the intended market.

  38. coming to the states? by agusus · · Score: 1

    Any idea if it will be coming to the US? In an English version? (the keyboard has chinese characters).

    And any idea what the "Zoom in" button does (on the monitor under power button)?
    There doesn't seem to be a zoom out button either...

    1. Re:coming to the states? by t--f-c · · Score: 1

      it functions for both zoom in and zoom out, because they realized 1024x768 on a 6.4 inch diagonal screen may be a bit much... it zooms in to 800x600 so you can read tiny text as necessary... thoughtful of them I think, but I'm also absolutely in love with the machine...

  39. Kids and technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    My 16-month old has already broken a cellphone and 2 DVD-ROM drives. Yeah, you can bet I'll be buying her one of these real soon...

  40. Would make an interesting PDA by PepsiProgrammer · · Score: 1

    That thing would make a very interesting PDA, looks like its running WinXP, wonder how hard it would be to put a decent os on it. And use it as a fold up PDA with thumb keyboard

    --
    "The United States has no right, no desire, and no intention to impose our form of government on anyone else." - Bush 05
    1. Re:Would make an interesting PDA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Windows XP is more than a decent OS. Please stop being a fucking moron. Thanks!

    2. Re:Would make an interesting PDA by PepsiProgrammer · · Score: 1

      Yes its much more than a 'decent os' its also a mediocre web browser, horrible email client, freaking huge media player, adware messaging client, crap card game suite, and collection of strange teletubbies photographs all rolled into one.

      --
      "The United States has no right, no desire, and no intention to impose our form of government on anyone else." - Bush 05
  41. Yeah by hendridm · · Score: 1

    I think there is a market for the size, just not for the associated price. I would love one of Dell's slimline notebooks, but my empty wallet says otherwise. I can get a powerful, standard notebook for much cheaper and deal with the size. Give time for prices to come down.

  42. Wrong by Neon_Mango · · Score: 1

    Um,

    I have an ibook 2001 (the white 500 Mhz G3 model) and it redraws the screen just fine in X. The white ibooks use the Rage128 video chipset and the X drivers for the chipset work great.

    Here's a nice kernel for these ibooks:
    http://www.ppckernel.org/kernel.php?id=21

    With mplayer I play DivX DVD rips in full screen using XVideo with less then 50 % CPU usage. The video is flawless as best I can tell.

    Now that the internal modem is working as far as I can tell EVERYHTING in the ibook 2001 is now supported by linux.

    1. Re:Wrong by wadetemp · · Score: 2

      I think ikekrull was talking about Apple's plans to provide new OSX video acceleration for newer cards. They will *not* be providing drivers for the Rage 128 and older, see the slashdot story of a few days ago. Linux may be fine with the video, and may already have accelerated drivers, but then again Linux is not made by the company that produces the iBook, which happens to be Apple. OSX has never had any acceleration, and even after the X 10.2 comes out, Rage 128 never will (AFAWK).

  43. Mistranslation (Re:gibberish) by viveka · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Japanese name for this thing is "Ichiban chiisai Vaio", which translates directly as "number 1 small Vaio". An idiomatic translation would be "The smallest Vaio", although in Japanese as well as English "Number 1" also connotes "best".
    There's no suggestion in the Japanese name that it's aimed at kids; rather that it's ultra-portable, something you could put in your purse, fit into your 3-square-meter million-dollar Tokyo apartment, or use on a packed Shinkansen.
    The English trademark "my first Vaio" gives a different impression of the device, at least to native English speakers, but native English speakers are not the primary audience for this.

    --
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    1. Re:Mistranslation (Re:gibberish) by steveha · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The English trademark "my first Vaio" gives a different impression of the device, at least to native English speakers, but native English speakers are not the primary audience for this.

      Don't forget that in Japan, English is "cool". They will use English phrases, without necessarily understanding the phrases fully.

      I think Kanji is "cool", and I would love to have a T-shirt with a few Kanji characters on it. Same thing with them, only with English. Most Japanese may not even care what "My First Vaio" means.

      steveha

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    2. Re:Mistranslation (Re:gibberish) by KH · · Score: 1

      The Sony page does not say anything about ``my first vaio.'' The treademark is ``My Little Vaio.'' The page talks about the U1 being the smallest and the lightest laptop that runs Windows XP, though.

      The Japanese phrase ``ichiban chiisai Vaio'' literally translates to ``the smallest Vaio,'' as opposed to the suggestion that it is idiomatic by the poster of the grandparent post.

    3. Re:Mistranslation (Re:gibberish) by Hast · · Score: 1

      This site has some: J-List. I did think that they had more shirt than I could find now however. Most likely it's on the site somewhere, it's just not very organized. (But there are a lot of crazy stuff there, so it's fun to browse around.)

      If that doesn't help you might be able to find more places from Japan referense altough that is more of a link site to a lot of Japan oriented sites.

      Also places like MegaTokyo has some fun shirts as well. (Like the b4k4^2 in kanji shirt.)

    4. Re:Mistranslation (Re:gibberish) by dhuff · · Score: 1

      I would love to have a T-shirt with a few Kanji characters on it.

      Then check out the shirts at JList. Warning, this is some, errr... "nakedness" on their site as well ;)

  44. Re:the keyboard hasn't chinese char. by fingerfly · · Score: 1

    It is Japanese instead.

    According to my understanding, nowadays Chinese always use standard keyboard without any Chinese char.. One of popular and practical chinese input method is 'ping-yin'.

    --
    I can resist everything but temptation -- Oscar Widle
  45. Did anyone notice the Air H" card? by phebz23 · · Score: 1

    There's a picture here, it appears to be a wireless card of some sort, only operating at 128kbps.

    Here's more info on the card on the vendor's site.
    Translated with the fish here.

    1. Re:Did anyone notice the Air H" card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is a wireless data service network only in Japan, and uses a Japan-only standard. It's somewhat equivalent to our CDPD standard in operational viewpoint, but completely different technically.

    2. Re:Did anyone notice the Air H" card? by huntdwumpus · · Score: 1

      I believe NTT DoCoMo has a 3G FOMA card that does a maximum data download rate of 384 kbps and a data upload rate of 64 kbps.

  46. Re:Built for Japanese Thumbs by Paersona · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's designed for the "Thumb Generation", the Japanese who have taken to 3G wireless technologies with abandon. Because they use cell phones for messaging, they're developing amazingly adroit thumbing skills. The suggested thumb use for this Vaio is demonstrated here.

  47. non-japansese literate by pnatural · · Score: 2

    i think just about everyone who is literate in another language is "non-japansese literate".

    i could be wrong, it's happened before. twice.

    1. Re:non-japansese literate by Chang · · Score: 1

      Uh, the only two languages I speak and read fluently are Japanese and English. I can't be alone.

  48. I'd prefer a pen computer at this size by _|()|\| · · Score: 2
    There's small and there's usable after fifteen generation of some, uh, serious genetic engineering.

    The first generation of pen / tablet computers didn't go over so well, because they were too big. I think the wide acceptance of PDAs, combined with the miniaturization demonstrated by the this little VAIO, sets the stage for a second wave of pen computers.

    At this size, give me just the screen, or give me two screens that fold up like a book. I could probably write graffiti faster than I could hunt and peck on that keyboard, to say nothing of the mouse.

  49. No thanks by NickisGod.com · · Score: 1

    I pulled up the .jp site to see what it looked like real quick, and the first thing I saw was:

    Microsoft Windows XP??????????[six lines of 'junk characters' removed for lameness filter']

    I think I'll pass on this one.

    1. Re:No thanks by smaug195 · · Score: 1

      Oh for gods sake, you know almost no OEM preloads linux, and you know you can load linux on it. So stop whining, and install linux, but don't whine about something that common.

    2. Re:No thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MS then uses the sales figures to say "look how popular windows is", even if you're buying the machine purely to run linux.

  50. Why bother? by tuxit2 · · Score: 1

    You already get 200MHz ARM-based handhelds (soon 500MHz to 1GHz) and a folding keyboard. With that, you get both more convenient handheld operation and a much better keyboard. And if you like, such a setup also runs Linux.

    1. Re:Why bother? by user32.ExitWindowsEx · · Score: 1

      The Crusoe is a x86 compatible CPU (They're not that bad --- I've used one firsthand; I own a Vaio C1VN Picturebook). Being able to run x86 Linux beats ARM Linux any day, IMHO. That's why you bother.

      Oh, don't forget that the U1 has a 20 GB HDD and can take 384 MB RAM, not to mention hardware-accelerated graphics (8 MB ATI just like the Vaio C1VN [*remembers playing Force Commander and JK 1 on my C1VN*]). I would kill to see an ARM-based setup that matches that.

      My $0.02.

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    2. Re:Why bother? by binaryDigit · · Score: 2

      How a 867mhz processor (NOW, not "soon"). How about a 1024x768 screen (can you say decent surfing, document editing, picture viewing). How about two USB ports and a firewire port (can you say "standard peripherals"). How about a 20GB HD. How about being able to run the SAME apps as your desktop.

      For me, Sony may have struck upon the near perfect form factor. PDA's are still toys (for me at least) and laptops (even subnotes) still too large to cart around day to day. It seems just about right. I can live with hunt and peck, heck, not much different than what I do with my keyboard now ;)

      Now I say make it sub 1 lb and integrate the wireless nic into the unit, and whammo, damn near perfect.

  51. Good call, thanks. (n/t) by tps12 · · Score: 1

    [n/t]

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  52. sexy! by autopr0n · · Score: 1

    mmmm... oh yeh.

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  53. "Play" station by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    Would you buy a machine called a "play" station? it sounds like something for little kids!

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    1. Re:"Play" station by tzanger · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I tried out your pr0n site but it seems to break under Konqueror (KDE3) -- sorry.

  54. Any better suggestions? by interiot · · Score: 2
    Making keyboards portable is hard. As you mentioned, making them smaller is not ideal. Making them virtual (drawn with lasers) is another option.

    My friend has a touchstream keyboard which he used full-time for a couple weeks. His emails constantly looked like the parent post. He attributed this to lack of tactile or auditory feedback.

    On the other hand, I use a small two-way alphanumeric pager (size comparison, closeup). You end up typing on it preying-mantis like, holding the front with your thumbs nad the back with your pinkies, and typing with your two pointer fingers. Typing is definitely slower, but you don't end up making constant mistakes like with the other keyboards mentioned.

    May point is... as far as I know, mini keyboards are the best solution so far, there are worse solutions available.

  55. Well, forunetly by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    I'm british, so it's not a big deal.

    (ok, not really. But I prefer my asian chicks nice and americanized anyway)

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  56. Bigger is better! by dirkdidit · · Score: 1

    In a world where it seems that everything needs to be bigger to better, this laptop seems to fit nowhere. No doubt it may be cool, but in a world where SUVs are king and big modded out computer cases are the shiznit, computers that are continually shrinking don't really follow the trend. And these new small laptops are so freakin' expensive, too.

  57. Well.. by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    I could touch type on a ti-92, so I'm sure I could handle this thing.

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  58. Memory stick by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    When I the ethenet card for my laptop, the drivers came on a floppy disk. Sure I could get drivers off the 'net, but not without the eth card.

    A friend of mine happened to have a Sony digital camera that let you mount it as a drive on a PC. We copied the stuff over to the cam, and then used the stick to install drivers. Pretty convoluted but it worked...

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  59. an update of 80s kidstuff by blisspix · · Score: 1

    anyone else remember those little battery operated electronic 'laptops' for kids that were supposed to help you learn spelling and maths, etc? this is just that, gone mad. there's not enough built-in bits and pieces to do all the things that people expect laptops to do these days.

    of course, what one expects laptops to do and what the actually can do for the size is rarely equal.

    all the same, I'm very happy with my iBook for thesis writing, ripping audio, and watching DVDs. things i can't do on my desktop pc!

  60. Internals by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    I once opened up the front pannel to see if I could fix a power problem (I couldn't charge it back up after I sent it electricity with the wrong polarity in a botched attempt to use a car adaptor... I couldn't fix the problem)

    Anyway, the layout was pretty straight forwared on the sr33k I have. One little wire for the touchpad, and the RAM and hard drive were right there for you to remove/replace.

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  61. Uh... by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    He's not talking about people using Linux... (besides, if you're going to run linux why would you get an iBook? 500mhz g3? Um, yeh...)

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  62. PC110 is nifty by isaac · · Score: 2

    I still have my PC110, and it still works well. I don't carry it around much anymore, but it still blows people away when I do. (All the moreso when I tell them that it's an 8-year-old computer).

    Right now I'm working on turning mine into a sort of desk clock/weather station/wireless AP, since it doesn't really have the oomph to do much else anymore (esp. w/ only 8 megs of RAM), and my P-series Lifebook is at least an order of magnitude more powerful and only twice the size.

    Anyhow, thanks, Alan, for putting/keeping the PC110 touchpad driver in the kernel! I still crack a smile every time I do 'make menuconfig' and see that option, even when I'm not on the wee beastie.

    -Isaac

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  63. Samoan Users? by n4zgl · · Score: 1

    Seriously, I have enough trouble with my cell phone buttons :)

    lets see something designed with BIG HANDS in mind.

  64. Cool but by willpost · · Score: 1

    It doesn't make anything easier, just lighter.

    I've tried using laptops, the Sony C1VN, Palm Pilots, a Handspring, HP sci calculators, and even the short-lived HP Omnigo

    It's already difficult trying to program on the beach with the C1VN, which already has the smallest keyboard I can imagine. You have to hunch over to see the 8"x5" screen, and only so many concepts can be conveyed on half a page of courier font. I have no idea how I would program in pages of code with just my thumbs on the PCG-U1.

    I think the problem lies in the fact that programming requires undivided concentration, and when you're outside there's a world of distractions and glares from anything and anyone.

    The portable device everyone really wants is the one they can carry a conversation with while walking in the park and having it turn that conversation into productivity.

    However that's way off in the future. So for now, if I had the money i'd get a PCG-U1 to feel good even if I didn't use it much.

    1. Re:Cool but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      1) Why are you coding on the beach. Normal men would be either sunning themselves, or walking up and down the beach looking at the hot chicks sunning themselves, possibly topless.

      2) Your use of Courier as an editing font is even more ridiculous than not looking at women (or hot hunks, if you lean that way) on the beach. It is not a good editing font, being more square than other decent code editing fonts. You need to use a thinner font to fit more on the screen and thus code more efficiently. Sadly, there is a distinct lack of good monospaced truetype fonts for those editors which can't use bitmap fonts. X11 is good because there are tonnes of good editing fonts.

      So yes, on the beach there are glares and distractions, as prevously discussed.

      This device needs voice recognition first and foremost. A much better input form, but much more processor intensive. Maybe when they are using 3GHz Transmeta chips in 6 years time... :)

    2. Re:Cool but by willpost · · Score: 0

      True. "To each their own"

  65. babelfish needs some work by danox · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What the hell does this mean?

    My Little VAIO.

    Worldwide smallest * most light weight * it actualized in the Microsoft Windows XP on-board type the " bio U ". The imagination it loads the prejudice function of the extent which is not attached from that compact body. Removing from the bag, you can use directly. It can enjoy casually, it is birth of biology.

    Babelfish is col and all, but I can't wait until AI's are advanced enough to translate thigns properly.

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    1. Re:babelfish needs some work by statikuz · · Score: 1
      Basically.
      Concerning the information of the catalog of sale day and other biology please view this way.
    2. Re:babelfish needs some work by danox · · Score: 2

      Well, gee, thanks. its all clear as mud now.

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    3. Re:babelfish needs some work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, not too bad a translation, when you realize that Vaio is spelled baio in Japanese (since they don't really use Vs), which is also the Japanese term for biology. What are the chances babelfish will correctly translate a trademarked product name?

  66. I find it amusing.... by e_n_d_o · · Score: 2

    ... that dynamism.com stole images from Sony's web site and proceeded to watermark them with their own logo.

  67. Re:the keyboard hasn't chinese char. by Dahan · · Score: 2

    The Japanese use Chinese characters though... and all the Chinese keyboards I've seen have Chinese characters on them. See this one as an example...

  68. Re:the keyboard hasn't chinese char. by drewness · · Score: 2, Informative

    The keyboard has hiragana on it, which is the Japanese syllabic writing system for native works. Shift (I think) outputs the equivilant katakana, which is the syllabic writing system for borrowed (foreign) words. An input system on the computer automatically replaces the kana with the kanji for words that can be written in kanji as you go.

    There are actually dozens of systems for inputting Chinese and Japanese in computers. That is the most common for Japanese today to my knowledge. In China the most common is to have a keyboard with special characters that represent the sounds in Chinese using a system called BoPoMoFo. Unlike the Japanese Kana, the BoPoMoFo characters are never used when writing; only for typing.There actually are Chinese keyboards with large arrays of Hanji (same as Kanji, but how the Chinese say it). Watch the James Bond movie Tomorrow Never Dies to see Bond be intimidated by one :)

    If anyone cares to know more I'd recomend this book published by Oreilly.

    Oh, and PinYin is the romanization system for Chinese endorsed by the government of the PRC. The BoPoMoFo keyboard symbols represent PinYin sounds.

  69. keyboard is for thumbs... by terradyn · · Score: 1

    This keyboard is designed for thumbs... So many posts about how small the keyboard is and you don't realize the asian population is geared toward tiny electronics. They're thumbs are their most dextrous fingers nowadays as opposed to our index.

  70. Re:the keyboard hasn't chinese char. by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 2

    The Japanese use Chinese characters

    The Japanese use Japanese characters (kanji) that resemble Chinese characters. They usually input them by spelling them out (using hiragana - the equivalent to an alphabet) and having the computer guess at the meaning, then correct that meaning. It usually works out alright.

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  71. lesson in relativity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    to the story poster who had the comment about "probably just for rich kids!" I thought it was comical how this was followed a few words later about his/her iMac.

    Just to let you know, there are many of us that are lucky to have the internet access we have while viewing those with handhelds and notebooks as definitely 'rich' compared to us.

    Not a sermon, but just thought people should be aware of that. On an interesting side note, that type of thinking blown way up and fed tons of illogic and ego juice is where we get these foolish socialists from. Thanks my latte sipping friend, but could you not try to relieve your guilt all over me and my friends n family to make yourself feel better? Please don't ever do anything to 'help' me except give me back my freedoms and money stolen from me by your friends on the Hill.(including voting for someone that does this)

  72. keyboard is for thumbs... by Mulletproof · · Score: 1

    Hey, anybody whose used any Sharp organizer like a Wizard (like myself) should be able to use this thing with a minimum of fuss. Thumbing the keyboard is a pretty effecient means of typing when they get that small, and I'm not just talking Asian hands, either. Once you learn what works, the keyboard will be the least of your problems.

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  73. How Stopped the Rain? by mthed · · Score: 1

    Apparently the poster is non-english literate. (how=who).

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  74. So how am I going to get linux on it? ^^ by Kisai · · Score: 1

    Looks like cd-rom/dvd-rom and floppy are optional, unless you can boot from the ethernet, better hope you don't nuke the OS.

    (Other than taking the hard drive out)

  75. Lurvely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF is lurvely? It's not in the dictionary.

  76. Re:the keyboard hasn't chinese char. by Oroborus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm sure someone else will mention this before my reply gets submitted, but to clear this one up:

    Japan uses three ideographic alphabets, hiragana, katakana, and kanji. Hiragana and katakana are small sets, and non-ambiguous. On a japanese keyboard you use a shift key to choose which you're typing in, then input them phonetically.

    Kanji is the set of imported chinese characters. Japan uses a small subset of traditional chinese characters called the "Joyou" character set. (My spelling could be awful on that) It's got around 1900 characters that are in common use, and an additional few hundred characters used just for names. (It's changed quite a bit in the past few decades since I last studied Japanese formally, so take those numbers with a grain of salt.)

    The kanji _are_ ambiguous, that is, the same pronounciation can have multiple character representation. But with so many possible pronounciations and so few characters (relatively) it doesn't take long to tab through your options when you input one. Generally the way to input kanji is to type in the pronounciation, then the word processor guesses the one you want, then if neccesary you tab through the rest of the options to find the other one. It sounds a little slow, but the ai's are getting better and better, so it's really getting smooth and easy.

    In general, Japanese is actually a very computer-friendly language. It's grammatically strict, making contextual inference fairly simple. It's non-tonal and non-inflexive, so voice recognition is surprisingly easy. :) Certainly easier than for English in the average case.

    Now, Chinese is a whole different matter. It's the source of most internationalization angst for the pacific rim. :P But that's a different story.

  77. Tiqit is even smaller by xtp · · Score: 1

    The Tiqit eightythree is similar in concept to the
    sony gizmo, but even smaller. It runs any X86 OS,
    has a cardbus slot, vga out, mike+audio plugs, 10G disk, etc. Screen might be smaller than the Sony, but is still very effective. Not in production yet, but may signify a trend. See www.tiqit.com.

    I never have had the time to learn how to program a Palm. With one of these devices, I don't have to. For that reason alone, they're likely to be more useful... even though more costly at first
    Even so, the money I wasted on two Palms would probably bring one home.

    1. Re:Tiqit is even smaller by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tiqit looks like a blackberry running XP. Scary..

  78. Fujitsu P-2000 by darkwhite · · Score: 2

    Personally, I want one of these (the top one =)): Fujitsu P-2000. The specs beat the Sony one hands down, it has a modular (!) cdrw/dvd bay that can be used for a second battery, built-in 100baseT/wavelan, faster Crusoe, all for an ultra-low $1800. The graphics adapter sucks, but I can live with that.

    And it's 10.6"(w) x 7"(d) x 1.59"(h), which makes it only a tiny bit less portable than the Sony one. I admit the Sony can look more attractive, but you'll have to haul around an extra cd drive and pcmcia card for equivalent functionality.

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    1. Re:Fujitsu P-2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it has no bluetooth at all. Just power hungry WLAN. :(

    2. Re:Fujitsu P-2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I've been looking at the Fujitsu P-2040 too. Great-looking little thing, with only one problem - at the moment it's only being sold in the US (and Japan, apparently), and it seems that Fujitsu has some sort of a deal with dealers not to ship it internationally. I'm in Finland, and a bit pissed off by this "we have this cool gadget but sorry you can't buy it" thingy.

      Grrr.

      Anyone have real experience with the P-2040, is it as nice as the specs say?

  79. Offtopic: web page in Japanese by steveha · · Score: 4, Offtopic

    I took Japanese classes a few years ago. I tried looking at some web sites in Netscape 4.x on a Windows system. I even downloaded a few fonts to try to get it to work better. It never looked good.

    Just now, using Galeon, I clicked on the link to the Japanese page, and oh my gosh wow! The whole thing looks like it should. Hiragana, katekana, kanji, English text, it's all there and it all looks like it should.

    Kudos to the Mozilla and Galeon developers.

    By the way, it still bemuses me how the Japanese like English words so much. They will use their Katekana phonetic alphabet and spell out English words by sound.

    Their phonetic spellings look odd to English-speakers. In Japanese, the consonant sounds don't appear alone; you can never have just "k", it has to be "ka", "ki", "ku", "ke", or "ko". The sole exceptions are "m" and "n" (e.g. "Nisan" can end with just "n" instead of "nu"). There is no "l", so they use "r" for "l" when doing foreign words. They often swallow or drop the "u" sound, so a Japanese speaker pronouncing the word "mobairu" will say something like "mobile" (i.e. he will get it pretty much correct, even though the spelling looks odd to us).

    Examples on that page: "katarogu PDF" is the link to the PDF Catalog; "rainuppu" is the link to the "lineup"; and the picture showing two hand thumb-typing says "mobairu gurippu sutairu" (mobile grip style).

    Note that the name "Vaio" is very difficult for the Japanese to pronounce; the phonetic spelling is "Baio", much easier for them. Japanese doesn't have a "v" sound.

    steveha

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    1. Re:Offtopic: web page in Japanese by ryochiji · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      >it still bemuses me how the Japanese like English words so much

      You know, it bemuses me how much French and Latin there is in the English language...

      Seriously, it's kind of unavoidable in the development of a language to not be influenced by other languages one way or another. There are funny stories about how, during World War 2, they tried banning the use of English words and had to invent Japanese equivalences for all English-derived words.

      >There is no "l", so they use "r"

      As someone who speaks both Japanese and English natively, this has always intrigued me. The thing is, it's precisely the other way around: there's no "r", it's all "l". Heck, most Japanese people can't pronounce the "r" sound, yet, in Roma-ji all the "l" sounds are spelled out using "r". IIRC, it used to be that you could use "r" or "l", but apparently the Japanese text input engine for Windows used "r" and reserved "l" as a special case (the Kotoeri on Mac still accepts "r" and "l" interchangeably).

      ...okay, that was waaay off topic.

    2. Re:Offtopic: web page in Japanese by steveha · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      You know, it bemuses me how much French and Latin there is in the English language...

      English steals shamelessly from any language. English has Germanic words, French words, acronyms, jargon and slang, all tossed in and as good as any other. (Compare with the French; they don't like "le computer" so the Academie Francaise invents new words like "l'ordinateur".)

      Japan seems to steal more specificially from English. I remember puzzling out the Katekana on a sign at a restaurant, and discovering that it was advertising a "Ladies' Lunch" ("raidisu ranchi" or something like that).

      It isn't that hard to learn Katekana (51 base characters and a few variations) and if you know it there are so many Japanese things you can read!

      it's precisely the other way around: there's no "r", it's all "l".

      Every textbook and dictionary I have seen tells me that it's "ra" "ri" "ru" "re" "ro". Thus my comment that Japanese has "r" but not "l". However, my Japanese sensei taught me to pronounce the letters as "la" "di" "lu" "le" "lo" (where the "d" in "di" is sort of part way between an "l" and a "d"). However, I have met Japanese people who definitely use an "r" sound in their speech. I just figure it has something to do with where you learned your Japanese, or something, and I don't pretend to understand it.

      I also don't understand how they know when to swallow the "u" sound and when not to. My name, "Steve", comes out "Sutiibu", but Japanese speakers reading the Katekana will say something like "S'teeb" which is pretty close.

      By the way, and wayyyy off topic, my Japanese sensei and her white American husband have a daughter named Lori. Sensei has some trouble pronouncing "Lori" correctly, since it has both an "r" and an "l", causing her maximum confusion. Years of practice have helped her to learn "Lori" but when I introduced my brother Larry she had great trouble with his name. "Lori" and "Larry" sound very similar to me, but she had trouble with it. (But her English is very much better than my Japanese!)

      steveha

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    3. Re:Offtopic: web page in Japanese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Note that the name "Vaio" is very difficult for the Japanese to pronounce; the phonetic spelling is "Baio"

      Laptops from Scott Baio? You better watch out. That bastard gave me pinkeye.

    4. Re:Offtopic: web page in Japanese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, America/English is very cool to them.

      Secondly, if they invent a Japanese word for a technical term, then they more or less have to invent (or choose) Kanji for the term, too. It's a lot easier just to write the English term in katakana.

    5. Re:Offtopic: web page in Japanese by steveha · · Score: 2

      Secondly, if they invent a Japanese word for a technical term, then they more or less have to invent (or choose) Kanji for the term, too.

      I am pretty sure this is not true. I don't believe there is a kanji for "ramen" noodles; they just always write that in katekana. (Or sometimes hiragana.)

      Kanjis can be used in pairs, and the pairing alters the meaning. You are literate in Japanese if you can read 2000 kanjis, and there are way more than 2000 nouns and concepts. They would probably come up with a new pair of kanjis to represent the new word.

      steveha

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  80. But is it acceptable to play back MP3s on it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sony is still makes up the largest percentage of funding for the RIAA out of any single company. They definately could influence the RIAA stance on my rights to play back music on PCG-U1 that I have purchased from Sony Records. But the RIAA still does not recognize fair-use rights to move legally owned content to another media such as the PCG-U1's 20GB hard drive. As long as Sony continues to fund such anti-consumer organizations, I see no reason to fund Sony.

  81. Sony/Microsoft comparison. by cliffy2000 · · Score: 1

    The SONY video game system (PS2) has a controller that is compact and stylish.
    The MSFT video game system (XBox) has a controller that is large, clunky and the very epitome of ugliness.

    The SONY handheld is compact and stylish.
    ...I pray to the heavens that we never see an MSFT handheld.

  82. Oh, for the love of Christ! by Guido69 · · Score: 1

    DAMMIT! I JUST got my Sr. Exec's to quit their bitching about our gigantic (4lb.) IBM laptops by switching them over to Toshiba Portege 2000's. I wonder how long until I start to hear about this "lurvley" little toy. I'll probably have to order a 5th. grader along with it to fit the keyboard, but hey - anything to make their lives a little easier.

    Seriously, this thing looks pretty cool. Nice specs, and even looks standard enough to put a usable OS on it with a little tweaking. Maybe work will let me order one to evaluate...

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  83. This is a prototype by Halvard · · Score: 1

    Dynamism clearly states it's a prototype. Which is at odds with the post that "Sony has now brought out" this very cool little box".

    1. Re:This is a prototype by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 2

      I have seen it for sale in shops in Tokyo- hope that answers your question.

      graspee

  84. I WANT! I WANT! by thefuckedupgenius · · Score: 1

    That would be the perfect for someone who's got to go to *sigh* school everyday. I can't read the site, cause it's in Japanese. But the pictures and concept are a great idea. I don't give a damn about screen size or carpal-tunnel syndrome as long as I can set the resolution to 5680x4240 like I do on all my other computers. I'll just go blind.

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  85. simpson reference: by zephc · · Score: 2

    (paraphrased)
    "We're sorry, but the fingers you are using to type are: TOO FAT. If you would like to aquire a special typing wand, please mash the keys: NOW"

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  86. Luke, use your thumbs... by RandomCoil · · Score: 1

    Everybody seems to be complaining about the keyboard being too small to touch-type normally -- maybe that's not what you're supposed to do. At that size, I can imagine holding it with two hands and being able to reach all the keys (and the pointing-device controls) with my thumbs. This seems to match perfectly with the Gameboy-generation it's targetted at.

  87. I'd like a bike, I'd like a pony... by douglips · · Score: 1

    but what I'd love is My First Sony.

    Oh, I'm sorry, you said My Little Pony. Er, I mean Sony.

    Great. Now that's two more reasons for me to gouge my eyeballs out with a spoon.

  88. Worth $1250? by ryochiji · · Score: 1
    kakaku.com (the Japanese equivalence of PriceWatch) has it listed at prices ranging from JPY148000-168000, which is roughly $1250 +- 100.

    I guess it's comparable to an iBook in price, but with a tiny keyboard and screen, it seems more like a big PDA... I watch DVD's and do some coding on my iBook, but I'm not sure I'd trade it in for this toy (hey, you gotta admit, the thing's a toy even when compared with an iBook).

    Oh, and does it run *nix? :-P

  89. Beowulf cluster by dirvish · · Score: 1


    I just wouldn't feel like I am part of the /. community if I didn't mention this at least once:

    Can you imagine a beowulf cluster of these?

  90. Crusoe and 30W by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Crusoe, 30W, and up to 4 hours battery life.

    So, the CPU isn't all...

  91. Re:the keyboard hasn't chinese char. by Dahan · · Score: 1
    The Japanese use Japanese characters (kanji) that resemble Chinese characters.

    Resemble them? C'mon, the majority of kanji as used in Japanese look identical to the characters used in Chinese. There are a few characters with minor differences, but they're still recognizable--on the same order as using a different font. You wouldn't say that Fraktur font characters aren't Roman characters, but only resemble them, right? Well, the difference between Japanese kanji and Chinese characters are much smaller than the difference between Fraktur and Helvetica. In fact, "kanji" () means "Han characters", i.e. "Chinese characters".

    BTW, minor note to Oroborus: technically, kana aren't ideographic; they make up a phonetic alphabet.

    But anyways, back to the keyboard... yeah, Japanese keyboards have mostly kana on them... they do have kanji on some of the special Japanese function keys though (halfwidth/fullwidth shift and the kana->kanji conversion key, for example...) That's what I was referring to...

  92. Born too late by Britney · · Score: 1
    You should have been around when these were available.

    At only 14 tons, I guess they qualified as luggables.

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  93. THANK YOU!!!! by simpl3x · · Score: 1

    thanks again, and again! i have been looking at this for a few weeks, and at this price... ring me up. very cool little machine. it will drive a 21" monitor, and can take a 40 gig drive. and sorry, but my son has an ibook with osx.

  94. Linux support??? by dennism · · Score: 1

    I know it's a crusoe, and Linus is obviously working on Linux support -- but, how good is it? I was thinking of something like this as a nice little portable linux box, with GNOME or KDE running on it -- is this box up to it? How does it compare to other machines?

    I was also thinking that this could be a nice little box for a network admin -- with the builtin networking, Linux, and the right tools, you can take this with you into those closets and troubleshoot on the spot. And when it's not being used, into the pocket it goes.

    So, anyone have any feedback on the Crusoe and Linux in general -- or even better, Linux and this little puppy together?

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  95. Re:the keyboard hasn't chinese char. by fingerfly · · Score: 1

    Just in case you are interested in layout of keyboard using among Chinese in PRC.

    1. Very few keyboard marked chinese char. on keyboards.

    2. Pinyin is endorsed by Singapore government too.

    3. Chinese inputting system based on pinyin modified standard 'pinyin' a little bit to be able to directly use 26 English char. Thus, needn't mark any Chinese char. on keyboard.

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  96. Re:Built for Japanese Thumbs by DavidKirkEvans · · Score: 1

    What I think is really interesting though is that they have integrated in some software features to reduce the amount of typing that you have to do. As demonstrated in the link above (link above) you type the first phonetic character for the word you want (nothing new here) and then you can use the jog shuttle to pop up a list of kanji (this is new.) Generally, you have to phonetically spell out the whole word before you can do the kana->kanji conversion, but their little flash cut out the other "u" "syo" and "ku". Of course, you replace that with twiddling the jog shuttle, but still, if they are using bi or trigram based prediction you can bet that that method will speed up typing a lot. I don't know if it would be as effective for English, but my guess is yes.

  97. Try this... by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    try this link. It might just be a stylesheet issue.

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    1. Re:Try this... by tzanger · · Score: 1

      It might just be a stylesheet issue.

      DOesn't appear to be. Looking at the source, I don't see any <HTML></HTML> or <HEAD< tags at all. I thought they were required for HTML?

  98. Another reason Japan gets all the cool stuff. by dazedNconfuzed · · Score: 2

    I asked a Japanese co-worker why we don't have all the nifty technostuff Japan does. Interesting explaination:

    In Japanese culture, women are not allowed to bring any money into a marriage. In centuries past, this made sense as they rarely had any money to bring. Today, Japanese women (like Americans) get married significantly older, and often have high-paying careers before getting hitched. Since they socially can't save that money for use in marriage, they have a relatively HUGE disposable income - coupled with miniscule apartments, no other big-ticket items (like house or car), and a fantastic telecom infrastructure (due to dense population) - they have the money & motivation to buy lots of really nifty communication-oriented (remember, these are women) gizmos.

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  99. right for PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION! by fortunatus · · Score: 1

    this looks the right size to do some coding & testing while i'm on the bus! regular laptops
    way to cumbersome! you can compile & test on
    this as well as type...

  100. also, the ibm pc110, the smallest laptop from jp by coldfireice · · Score: 1

    www.ibm.co.jp/pc/prod/ha/110.html

  101. required? by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    It's never made a diffrence that I've known, and I've been doing web stuff since '97

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