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Star Trek: Deep Space Nine DVD Details Announced
l0key432 writes "The first season of Deep Space Nine will be released on DVD in late-February next year in the form of a six-disc box set, Paramount Home Entertainment officially announced on StarTrek.com. The DVDs will contain, of course, all of the season one episodes, newly remixed Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround and many extras. The following six seasons will be released one or two months apart from each other, as the Next Generation box sets were. Good to see this show finally coming out on DVD and getting some of the recognition it truly deserves."
I refuse to purchase this product until it supports .ogg format
fucking trekkie nerds
fp baby get in.
none of the DS9 chicks compare
I'm not so sure how releasing something on DVD is providing recognition it deserves. I could understand saying that if Paramount went all out trying to promote it I could call it recognition. But if, not keep in mind how much low quality stuff gets put out that is "gaining recognition".
A planet where apes evolved from men? Long live the apes.
Worst series of the worst science fiction universe ever invented.
My God, people, Star Trek is not science fiction, it's garbage.
Gee, did Data learn to date women yet?
Are we going to be victimized on the price of this series just like when STNG came out on DVD?
------- "From bored to fanboy in 3.8 asian girls" ----------
what is the point of wasting your mod points on AC posts that are at 0 to begin with?
normal users don't see them, and users who want to see them will do so even if the post is rated -1
don't you think you're a bit stupid?
I believe the first season has been out on DVD for some time now. I rememeber when I moved from NY to RI the local stations did not have it so I looked into purchasing the series on DVD and they only had the first season. To add salt in the wound, there were only one/two episodes per disc and they were 19.95 per disc. No set. I fgured it would probably cost upwards of $2K for the whole series at that rate (if it had been available). What a rip off that was. Someone there was greedy. Glad to see they are finally releasing it in a more sane config.
Who are you? The new #2 Who is #1? You are #617565. I am not a number, I am a free man! Muhahaha.
hopefully ill be able to pop these into my computer running debian linux and play it, wait, nope, i'm going to spend 3 hours getting it to work, oh well at least its running at 20 fps in linux!!! mono sound!!! wooo no subtitles!!
My nick is kc and I oper on irc.webmaster.com
:)
Me and my gay friend scottk are looking for some new flesh!
Come visit us in #spiderslair and let us know you read this article and are looking for some hardcore fun.
nick: kc or scottk
room: #spiderslair
server: irc.webmaster.cin or irc.webchat.org
thank you
kc and scottk, lovers for life.
We can see wayun(?) die all over again.
Who needs kenny when you've got him.
Be you Admins? nay, we are but lusers!
Who here agrees with the order of the Star Trek franchise from top to bottom:
TNG
DS9
Enterprise
Original
Voyager -- A Shame to be preceded by the words "Star Trek" IMNSHO
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2480583.stm
Shit, dude. It's all about Nichole DeBoer. I've been in love with her since she was "Laura" on the Kids in the Hall.
That is a pretty strong word to use unless Paramount had a gun to your head. I think they didn't charge enough, because if you consider yourself "victimized" you would have probably payed even more (considering that you act as if you had no choice).
Slashdotter are stupid and biased.
Please Contribute another one
The Register is reporting that famous actor and slashdotter, Wil Wheaton was found early this morning creaming his pants somewhere deep in LA. The cause of his creaming was not found, and no suspects have been named by the police. An official, logged in as an `Anonymous Coward' was heard says "hot grits down his pants!", (this was simultionsly posted on slashdot as well). Wheaton was later found replying to that thread and being as cheesy as usual. Natalie Portman was not seen anywhere near the creaming, though Chris Da Boner was seen lurking around and moderating down AC posts.
That show is so over. Same with the nerdbot Wesley generation series. Why don't you find something new ??????
You look like a cliche. A bunch of aging nerds stuck in old sci-fi.
You need to get out more and get laid alot more and perhaps go dancing, bar b quein, or at least build something nerdy of consequence. Not another gay case mod.
Dont you want to be something ??
The exclusive nerd lifestyle is so over with me. I refuse to be a 30 something dork surrounded by pocket gadgets watching star trek and out of shape from eating trash.
I invite all who are brave enough to follow me into the real world of social interaction with females. I am always for an adventure.
...it with his laptop.
This is pathetic (Score:0)
by gnillort (myslashdotemailaccount@yahoo.com) on Saturday November 16, @10:54AM (#4685513)
(User #617577 Info | Last Journal: Wednesday October 23, @07:53PM) Rather than get rid of the influence of Vlad crapflooding and the cabal/AVT/CUNT/CLIT/Klerck crapflooding, you fatasses sit here. I have a perfectly good alternative [ezboard.com] all set up. Why not give it a try? [ Reply to This | Parent ] YOOOOU ARE TEH GAY! (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @10:42AM (#4685454) In A.D. 2002
Faggotry was beginning.
AV3: What happen?
Phone Boy 1: Somebody pump us up the butt
Phone Boy 2: We get no lubricant
AV3: What!
Phone Boy 2: Main cock turn hard
AV3: It's You!!
Vlad: How are you fagmasters!!
Vlad: All your females are belong to us
Vlad: You are on the way to death by aids
AV3: What you say!!
Vlad: You have no chance to survive smoke your pole
Vlad: HA HA HA HA....
AV3: Take off every 'cockring'
AV3: You know what you doing
AV3: Move 'jizcatcher'
AV3: For great justice
[ Reply to This | Parent ] January 1st, 2003: daily countdown. (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @07:01AM (#4684935) The countdown: 45 days [ Reply to This | Parent ] trolltalk srings to life! (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @06:49AM (#4684907) who on earth could have brought such a sudden tidal-wave of vitality back to this cruddy excuse for a secret sid? why, momochrome of course! only his brilliance could possibly have re-invigorated such a sad state of degeneracy and breathed new life back into this feeble excuse for a troll collective.
All hail momochrome! [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:trolltalk srings to life! (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @06:59AM (#4684931) Also, the "tidal-wave of vitality" had been ongoing for quite some time before Mr. Momochrome became overcome with jealousy that people were talking about someone other than him and thus decided to throw his hat into the ring. He's nothing. A washed-up has-been. Nowadays, who even remembers who Momochrome was? I sure don't fucking remember, and I've been into the Slashdor troll-scene hardcore since before the scene existed. Momochrome was a one-line footnote on page 4,275 of the history of trolling, and most people didn't even bother to read that page, let alone the footnotes.
Momochrome who?? Doesn't ring a bell. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:trolltalk srings to life! (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @07:06AM (#4684944) apologies
Apology \A*pol"o*gy\, n.; pl. Apologies. [L. apologia, Gr. ?; ?
from + ?: cf. F. apologie. See Apologetic.] 1. Something said or written in
defense or justification of what appears to others wrong, or of what may be
liable to disapprobation; justification; as, Tertullian's Apology for
Christianity.
It is not my intention to make an apology for my poem; some
will think it needs no excuse, and others will receive none. --Dryden.
2.
An acknowledgment intended as an atonement for some improper or injurious remark
or act; an admission to another of a wrong or discourtesy done him, accompanied
by an expression of regret.
3. Anything provided as a substitute; a
makeshift.
He goes to work devising apologies for window curtains.
--Dickens.
Syn: Excuse.
Usage: An apology, in the original sense
of the word, was a pleading off from some charge or imputation, by explaining
and defending one's principles or conduct. It therefore amounted to a
vindication. One who offers an apology, admits himself to have been, at least
apparently, in the wrong, but brings forward some palliating circumstance, or
tenders a frank acknowledgment, by way of reparation. We make an apology for
some breach of propriety or decorum (like rude expressions, unbecoming conduct,
etc.), or some deficiency in what might be reasonably expected. We offer an
excuse when we have been guilty of some breach or neglect of duty; and we do it
by way of extenuating our fault, and with a view to be forgiven. When an excuse
has been accepted, an apology may still, in some cases, be necessary or
appropriate. ``An excuse is not grounded on the claim of innocence, but is
rather an appeal for favor resting on some collateral circumstance. An apology
mostly respects the conduct of individuals toward each other as equals; it is a
voluntary act produced by feelings of decorum, or a desire for the good opinion
of others.'' --Crabb.
[ Reply to This | Parent ] You idiot. (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @06:56AM (#4684925) Momochrome is nothing. Trollaxor is a 5000% better troller than Momochrome is, 300% more intelligent, 1000% more creative, at least 35% more handsome, and he has sex nearly three times as often. Momochrome isn't the king of Trolltalk and never was; the king of Trolltalk has always been Mr. Trollaxor. Other trolls have come and other trolls have gone, but Trollaxor has been running this show this entire time. Idiots. Don't you know who your leader is? You will soon. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Single Jewish bisexual geek-grrl seeks romance. (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @05:38AM (#4684788) TROLLTALK PERSONAL ADVERTISEMENTS
YOUR LOVE CONNECTION FOR THE TROLLER SCENE
Single Jewish bisexual geek-grrl seeks seeks friendship, pen-pals, romance, and marriage. Very attractive [att.net]. Into BSDM / watersports / felching. Passions include Socialism, anal sex, and protesting (anything!). I am an excellent Slashdot troller. I've been a writer for reputable and unbiased news-journals such as Indymedia.org, Adequacy.org, and my new weblog, IniquityDaily.com! If you care about any of these things, or if you'd just like to listen to me tell you all about my life for hours on end, or even if you'd just like to get together for some buttfucking, I'd like to hear from you! Male or female, young or old... I can't afford to be picky! (No further inquiries from Scott Lockwood will be accepted, though.)
Write to:
Esther Sassaman
2776 Hampshire Blvd #B1
Cleveland Heights, OH 44106.
Or e-mail me [mailto]. Or call me at (216) 321-3546. I don't get many phone calls, and the last person who called me hung up on me and it made me sad. Hope to hear from you soon!
Love,
Perdida
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @10:19AM (#4685368) What are you trying to accomplish by that? Do you want to force her to leave k5 and change her nick? [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Lame (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @11:34AM (#4685665) That would be nice, actually. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Single Jewish bisexual geek-grrl seeks romance. (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @06:42AM (#4684900) would I ever be this bitter about perdida? only if I couldn't posess her.
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @05:33AM (#4684777) thank you trooltalk for making me feel "normal" again. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Generous RePOST (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @05:30AM (#4684771) Years ago, I won the battle of the sids, and relegated all the old-guard troll cabal to the obscurity of a clumsy mailing list. I graciously left ?sid=trolltalk to the neophytes and amateurs, as a sort of stomping ground wherein they might practice the craft. Trolltalk survives today as ?sid=20721, and the tradition had continued quite nicely until recently.
Now it appears that inter-factional rivalry is attempting to rear its ugly head. The phoneboy cabal, after such ruthless and base treatment of vlad, in a capacity quite extending beyond that which is decent, breaking the code of troll ethics, our own version of 'honor among thieves', and in fact, quite actually breaking several state and federal anti-trolling laws, have debased this once lovely stomping ground and brought their diseased and perverted notions into the fore. And now they promise to utterly dominate the underworld of our own slashdot! This cannot be allowed to happen.
With Klerck acting as regent during the Geekizoid era (and furthering the art of the troll with skill and finesse, I might add), the slashdot underground moved along nicely, with the occasional hiccough brought on by taco and his feeble anti-trolling efforts.
And so, as your rightful King, I do hereby proclaim an edict: Henceforth, anyone attached to the Phoneboy Cabal is to be considered corpus memento, and is to be treated as such with extreme prejudice.
[ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Generous RePOST (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @11:36AM (#4685674) Anyone who believes that "honor among trolls" shit is a fucking moron. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Generous RePOST (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @05:35AM (#4684783) No! Go away! There is no MORMOCRORE in Trolltalk!!! [ Reply to This | Parent ] Single Jewish bisexual geek-grrl seeks romance. (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @05:05AM (#4684718) TROLLTALK PERSONAL ADVERTISEMENTS
YOUR LOVE CONNECTION FOR THE TROLLER SCENE
Single Jewish bisexual geek-grrl seeks seeks friendship, pen-pals, romance, and marriage. Very attractive [att.net]. Into BSDM / watersports / felching. Passions include Socialism, anal sex, and protesting (anything!). I am an excellent Slashdot troller. I've been a writer for reputable and unbiased news-journals such as Indymedia.org, Adequacy.org, and my new weblog, IniquityDaily.com! If you care about any of these things, or if you'd just like to listen to me tell you all about my life for hours on end, or even if you'd just like to get together for some buttfucking, I'd like to hear from you! Male or female, young or old... I can't afford to be picky! (No further inquiries from Scott Lockwood will be accepted, though.)
Write to:
Esther Sassaman
2776 Hampshire Blvd #B1
Cleveland Heights, OH 44106.
Or e-mail me [mailto]. Or call me at (216) 321-3546. I don't get many phone calls, and the last person who called me hung up on me and it made me sad. Hope to hear from you soon!
Love,
Perdida [ Reply to This | Parent ] A note for the anti vlad triad (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @04:27AM (#4684604) Please stop all this fucking klerck crapflooding. I hate it. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:A note for the anti vlad triad (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @04:31AM (#4684625) Idiot. Klerck is the one doing the crapflooding. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Keeping the trolling going (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @04:08AM (#4684557) 17 replies. Made it up to five and then back down to one.
Click here for super enjoyment [slashdot.org]. [ Reply to This | Parent ] What do you think you're doing??? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @04:34AM (#4684641) You can't talk about trolling in here; this is Trolltalk!! [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Keeping the trolling going (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @04:26AM (#4684598) this would have been excellent as a troll were it not for the little details. like the inherent truth to what you are saying. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Keeping the trolling going (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @04:29AM (#4684617) Trolling with truth. Tyr it sometime. Most of the replies were inflamed unix hippies. Setting their fucking hippy beards on fire. Trying to prove that Unix is the most stable OS evar. Evar. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Keeping the trolling going (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @04:42AM (#4684664) that is the simplest form of the troll, almost sub-par. that you got so many bites is merely endemic of 1) the ease of the sendup and B) the lack of real trolling on slashdot these days. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Adequacy reborn? What the fuck? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @04:05AM (#4684548) What the bloody hell is this?? [iniquitydaily.com] It looks vary lame, whatever it is.
Post 800, by the way. Claimed by teh New True Troll High Council. [ Reply to This | Parent ] pathetic (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @03:17AM (#4684451) all this drama in trolltalk, and not a god damned troll in the regular story threads. wtf? [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:pathetic (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @03:32AM (#4684486)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @01:59AM (#4684191) From: #adequacy, 2002.10.1
[perdida] hey guys! look at the 1337 troll i did: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/10/1/21188/771
[perdida] [perdida] jumps up and down, her mammaries flapping thunderously.
[seventypercent] awesome, perdida! that took some cunning!
[perdida] yayyy! LOOK IT GOT *EIGHT* REPLIES!!!
[shoeboy] WOW perdida, that is SO COOL! i really love you perdida! will you please take my virginity?!
[perdida] shoeboy: i am a lesbian and i thought you were having sex with chloedancer.
[shoeboy] that's just the name i gave to my right han... oh, uh... yeah... you are REALLY COOL perdida!
[seventypercent] you guys tell me what you think of this troll: see, i pretend to be a RIGHT WING MANIAC! and i spout all sorts of RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA about stuff that has NO POLITICAL ANGLE!! what do you think??
[shoeboy] WOW! that's why you guys are the masters. i love you guys. i am SO GLAD you let me hang around. ummm, seventypercent, can you move over just a hair so i can get my nose a little deeper into your asshole?
[vladinator] GUYS!!! SOMEBODY HAS CREATED A TOOR ACCOUNT ON MY BSD BOX!! LOLFOFLROLFGLFL! I HAVE BEEN HACKED!! REPEAT: I HAVE BEEN HACKED!!!! PLEASE ADVICE!!!! LOL!!! ROFL!!!!! LOFLGL!!!!
[shoeboy] vlad, you are SO COOL. what time will you be on the twin poles support group channel?
[vladinator] OH, HEY, SHOE. I DON'T KNOW. I'VE GOT TO NAIL THIS HACKER. HE WILL BE SORRY HE HACKED INTO MY SYSTEM! LOLFLFLFOFLELROSLFLFLDLALLLLL!
[shoeboy] WOW. MAN, VLAD YOU ARE SO FUCKING COOL! WHAT MARTIAL ARTS ARE YOU GOING TO USE?
[vladinator] SHOE: HAVE YOU EVER SEEN STEEL MAGNOLIAS? THAT'S THE STYLE OF MARTIAL ARTS I PRACTICE.
[shoeboy] [shoeboy] drools.
[shoeboy] wow vlad. you are SO COOL. i can just imagine your rippling muscles and bulging, hairy chest! YOU are the kind of man i want to be when i grow up!
[vladinator] ROFLLFOGOGLFOWSLDFLFLFLFLOLOLOL!!!!!
[perdida] come on guys, you aren't paying attention to me! did i tell you about my new troll on kuro5hin?
[shoeboy] oh yeah, perdida. that was SO COOL.
[seventypercent] oh yeah, that reminds me! you guys tell me what you think of this troll: see, i pretend to be a RIGHT WING MANIAC! and i spout all sorts of RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA about stuff that has NO POLITICAL ANGLE!! what do you think??
[shoeboy] [shoeboy] sneezes.
[seventypercent] whoaaaa! better warn before you do that, shoe!
[shoeboy] i'm SO SORRY seventy. PLEASE DON'T KICK ME OUT OF YOUR ELITE CLIQUE! i promise to suck you off again tonight!
[seventypercent] [seventypercent] chuckles...
[seventypercent] that's my little bitch.
[shoeboy] hey guys, where's bc? HE IS SO FUCKING COOL!
[vladinator] OH, I THINK HE GOT THROWN IN JAIL FOR RUNNING OVER AN OLD LADY WHILE HE WAS DRUNK! LOFOFOFOFLFLFOFLFOFLFOFLFOFLFOFL!!!!
[vladinator] HEY GUYS!!!! WHAT DOES "RM -RF
[ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:VLADEQUACY: LAMER THAN EVAR (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @02:48AM (#4684357) [11:57] edgemaster# wc -l patch
[11:57] 435 patch
[11:57] Nugget: ha ha, I have yet another freebsd patch
[12:04] yay for drdink
[12:04] * Octal has quit IRC (Client exited)
[12:05] www.zombie.org/watchdog.diff
[12:06] * Octal (~brian@128.101.0.0) has joined #slashdot
[12:06] * ChanServ sets mode +o Octal
[12:06] hmm
[12:07] it is missing a file
[12:07] drdink: cat
[12:07]
[12:07] You're a fucking comedian.
[12:08] where comedian means lame
[12:08] haha, now youre the comedians
[12:08] there
[12:08] missing file is there now
[12:09] * sporty (~sporty@cloaked.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #slashdot
[12:09] drdink: plain magic?
[12:09] oops
[12:09] * drdink takes out the part that says 'smbd', where he borrowed his rcng script from
[12:15] hmm
[12:16] why did kirk bother to ask for a visual if the monitor is facing the oppocite direction as him?
[ Reply to This | Parent ] IMPORTANT ELECTION NEWS (Score:1)
by gbwd on Saturday November 16, @01:16AM (#4684037)
(User #626693 Info) It turns out that mr. Mratislav Nikolavic did not make the surprising win in the Presidential elections he thought he did. I recently appealed my case to the Troll Supreme Court, and they ordered a recount from the Florida trolls. Y'see, down in Florida they use a system where there are a series of punch holes in the ballot, and the voter sticks his willy through the hole he wants to vote for in order to punch out the "chad". Unfortunately, it appears some [slashdot.org] troll [slashdot.org]'s penises are too small to punch the chads out all the way, which confangled the fancy votin' machines and made it think people was a-votin' for that Serbian gentleman when they meant to vote for me.
SO anyways, to make the long story short, I, George Beauregard Washington Donnely (call me "W" for short
[ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:IMPORTANT ELECTION NEWS (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @04:37AM (#4684646) Scott Lockwood is a fucking pussy faggot longshoreman babysitter. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:IMPORTANT ELECTION NEWS (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @04:25AM (#4684591) This method of voting automatically ensures that women are not allowed to vote -- excellent. Women's suffrage has ruined politics and turned it into a meaningless battle between competing hairdressers, and tailors. Bah. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:IMPORTANT ELECTION NEWS (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @01:20AM (#4684052) apologies
Apology \A*pol"o*gy\, n.; pl. Apologies. [L. apologia, Gr. ?; ? from + ?: cf. F. apologie. See Apologetic.] 1. Something said or written in defense or justification of what appears to others wrong, or of what may be liable to disapprobation; justification; as, Tertullian's Apology for Christianity.
It is not my intention to make an apology for my poem; some will think it needs no excuse, and others will receive none. --Dryden.
2. An acknowledgment intended as an atonement for some improper or injurious remark or act; an admission to another of a wrong or discourtesy done him, accompanied by an expression of regret.
3. Anything provided as a substitute; a makeshift.
He goes to work devising apologies for window curtains. --Dickens.
Syn: Excuse.
Usage: An apology, in the original sense of the word, was a pleading off from some charge or imputation, by explaining and defending one's principles or conduct. It therefore amounted to a vindication. One who offers an apology, admits himself to have been, at least apparently, in the wrong, but brings forward some palliating circumstance, or tenders a frank acknowledgment, by way of reparation. We make an apology for some breach of propriety or decorum (like rude expressions, unbecoming conduct, etc.), or some deficiency in what might be reasonably expected. We offer an excuse when we have been guilty of some breach or neglect of duty; and we do it by way of extenuating our fault, and with a view to be forgiven. When an excuse has been accepted, an apology may still, in some cases, be necessary or appropriate. ``An excuse is not grounded on the claim of innocence, but is rather an appeal for favor resting on some collateral circumstance. An apology mostly respects the conduct of individuals toward each other as equals; it is a voluntary act produced by feelings of decorum, or a desire for the good opinion of others.'' --Crabb.
[ Reply to This | Parent ] Post #800. (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @12:15AM (#4683807) Ate-Hundirt. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Anyone ever notice? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @12:12AM (#4683801) Scott Lockwood is our perfect little Schadenfreude.
- just an observer [ Reply to This | Parent ] ALL WE ARE SAAAAAYING IS GIVE PEACE A CHAAANCE! (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 15, @11:37PM (#4683602) In A.D. 2002 Faggotry was beginning. AV3: What happen ? Phone Boy 1: Somebody pump us up the butt Phone Boy 2: We get no lubricant AV3: What ! Phone Boy 2: Main cock turn hard AV3: It's You !! Vlad: How are you fagmasters !! Vlad: All your females are belong to us Vlad: You are on the way to death by aids AV3: What you say !! Vlad: You have no chance to survive smoke your poleVlad: HA HA HA HA
[ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:ALL WE ARE SAAAAAYING IS GIVE PEACE A CHAAANCE! (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @12:08AM (#4683786) A.D. 2003: ???
A.D. 2004: Profit! [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:ALL WE ARE SAAAAAYING IS GIVE PEACE A CHAAANCE! (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 15, @11:43PM (#4683646) Non-impressive. [ Reply to This | Parent ] ATTN: TROLLTALK. Want phone sex? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 15, @11:34PM (#4683580) I'm a hot Jewish geek-grrl, a political leftist, and a troll. And I'm lonely. Call (216) 321-3546 and I'll tell you what I'm wearing. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:ATTN: TROLLTALK. Want phone sex? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @12:10AM (#4683792) Hello. You sound hot. Are you hot? Or not? [ Reply to This | Parent ] THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 15, @11:25PM (#4683512) In A.D. 2002
Faggotry was beginning.
AV3: What happen ?
Phone Boy 1: Somebody pump us up the butt
Phone Boy 2: We get no lubricant
AV3: What !
Phone Boy 2: Main cock turn hard
AV3: It's You !!
Vlad: How are you fagmasters !!
Vlad: All your females are belong to us
Vlad: You are on the way to death by aids
AV3: What you say !!
Vlad: You have no chance to survive smoke your pole
Vlad: HA HA HA HA
AV3: Take off every 'cockring'
AV3: You know what you doing
AV3: Move 'jizcatcher'
AV3: For great justice
[ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @04:39AM (#4684655) AV4: ???
AV5: Profit! [ Reply to This | Parent ] TEH VLADEQUACY MUST BE PURGED (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 15, @11:21PM (#4683479) WILLIAM SCOTT LOCKWOOD III ANATOMY OF AN ASSHOLE
And you thought this was just going to be another goats.cx [forkbomb.net] link. Close. During this bloody war with Mr. Lockwood, several interested lookers-on have commented, "Yeah, Vlad is a fat, disgusting piece of shit, but why do you hate him that much?? Do you berate your own feces before you flush it??" This is a question which must be answered. Here, I will present to you just a few reasons for despising William Scott Lockwood III. Read these with an open mind and an eye toward moral clarity and I am certain you will reach the same conclusion that I and others have: Lardinator Has To Go.
This is the face of a child-molestor. [forkbomb.net] It is no coincidence that Lockwood 3's children live all the way on the other side of the country. His wife at the time (just one in a continuous stream of buffalo), could not get her brood far enough away from the cold clammy probing fingers of Lardinator. And knowing what a low-life piece of white-trash her ex-husband is, she knew that Lardo would not spring for so much as a ride in a 67 Mercury Comet to "see" his hell-spawn. Child molestors are generally sexually abused in their own youth. Take a long look at the tortured echos of a deprived childhood. [forkbomb.net]
Crapflooder Extraordinaire [geekizoid.com] (note: I know these are some big words, Scottie. Don't worry your little head about it. Just rest assured you are being exposed for the worthless fuck you are). William Scott Lockwood III used his third-rate troll site Geekizoid [olsentwins.com] to encourage the crap-flooding and general assault of websites he deemed inappropriate. This included a tech site oriented toward females, an animal rights site, child abuse sites (see above paragraph for why Scotty found that one inappropriate), a site aimed at giving advice to troubled teens and various other sites where people generally minded their own business, blissfully unaware of the stinking mound of manure who had eyed them for destruction only to sate his own appetite for power. When the admin of one of those sites (yeah, it was mine) decided to give little Pecker-head a taste of his own shit, it was suddenly a bad thing! Why, he was going to involve the law! He was sending his server logs to EVERYONE in order to figure out who was spanking his little butt good (he never did).
Idiot Supreme. [geekizoid.com] Yep, you read that right, folks. Fatty can't even read his own server logs! And he wants YOU to buy a scoop "server" from him!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! We can see from this old post [rockynewsgroup.org] that Fatty dropped out of high-school. That would explain quite a bit.
Hypocrite Extreme. [zbh.com] Mr. Lardinator has a nasty habit of complaining to those who run message boards. He constantly accused Rob Malda of being a hypocrite (a word Mr. Lardinator can't even spell properly). He has also complained incessantly about K5's Rusty and others. Of course, you now know from the Crapflooding paragraph, that Mr. Lardinator is the biggest (in more ways than one) H Y P O C R I T E of them all.
Well, that's it for now. I can and will post more later, but I will let you digest this in pieces. And please, join the crusade. It is the only way.
[ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:TEH VLADEQUACY MUST BE PURGED (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @01:27AM (#4684085) Entry: egregious
Function: adjective
Definition: very bad
Synonyms: arrant, atrocious, capital, deplorable, extreme, flagrant, glaring, grievous, gross, heinous, infamous, insufferable, intolerable, monstrous, nefarious, notorious, outrageous, outright, preposterous, rank, scandalous, shocking, stark
Antonyms: minor, trivial, petty, little, slight, measly
Concept: immorality
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Entry: extreme
Function: adjective
Definition: unreasonable
Synonyms: absolute, desperate, dire, downright, drastic, egregious, exaggerated, exceptional, excessive, extraordinary, extravagant, fabulous, fanatical, flagrant, gross, harsh, immoderate, improper, imprudent, inordinate, intemperate, irrational, nonsensical, out-and-out, outrageous, overkill, preposterous, rabid, radical, remarkable, rigid, severe, sheer, stern, strict, thorough, unbending, uncommon, uncompromising, unconventional, unreasonable, unseemly, unusual, utter, zealous
Antonyms: conventional, normal, moderate, ordinary
Concept: abnormality
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Entry: flagrant
Function: adjective
Definition: flaunting
Synonyms: arrant, atrocious, awful, bare-faced, blatant, bold, brazen, capital, conspicuous, crying, disgraceful, dreadful, egregious, enormous, flagitous, flaming, flashy, glaring, grody, gross, hanging out, heinous, hot shot, immodest, infamous, noticeable, notorious, obvious, open, ostentatious, out-and-out, outrageous, rank, scandalous, shameful, shameless, shocking, striking, undisguised, wicked, without shame
Concept: immorality
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Entry: foul
Function: adjective
Definition: disgusting
Synonyms: abhorrent, abominable, barn, base, contaminated, despicable, detestable, dirty, disgraceful, dishonorable, egregious, fetid, filthy, hateful, heinous, horrid, icky, impure, infamous, iniquitous, loathsome, malodorous, mucky, nasty, nasty, nauseating, nefarious, noisome, notorious, offensive, offensive, pigpen, polluted, putrid, rank, raunchy, repellent, repulsive, revolting, rotten, scandalous, shameful, squalid, stable, stinking, stinking, sullied, tainted, unclean, vicious, vile, wicked, yecchy, yucky
Concept: dirtiness
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Entry: glaring
Function: adjective
Definition: obvious
Synonyms: audacious, blatant, capital, conspicuous, crying, egregious, evident, excessive, extreme, flagrant, gross, inordinate, manifest, noticeable, obtrusive, open, outrageous, outstanding, overt, patent, protrusive, rank, unconcealed, visible
Concept: extent (great)
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Entry: great
Function: adjective
Definition: excellent
Synonyms: able, absolute, aces, adept, admirable, adroit, bad, best, brutal, cold, complete, consummate, crack, downright, dynamite, egregious, exceptional, expert, fab, fantastic, fine, first-rate, good, heavy, hellacious, marvellous, masterly, mostest, number one, out-and-out, perfect, positive, proficient, skilled, skillful, super dupe, surpassing, terrific, total, tough, transcendant, tremendous, unmitigated, unqualified, utter, wonderful, zero cool
Concept: superiority
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Entry: grievous
Function: adjective
Definition: painful
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[ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:TEH VLADEQUACY MUST BE PURGED (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 15, @11:30PM (#4683547) Um, that old post says he quit school, got his GED and went to college... How is that a bad thing? [ Reply to This | Parent ] THE TRUTH REVEALED (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 15, @11:18PM (#4683466) In A.D. 2002
Faggotry was beginning.
AV3: What happen ?
Phone Boy 1: Somebody pump us up the butt
Phone Boy 2: We get no lubricant
AV3: What !
Phone Boy 2: Main cock turn hard
AV3: It's You !!
Vlad: How are you fagmasters !!
Vlad: All your females are belong to us
Vlad: You are on the way to death by aids
AV3: What you say !!
Vlad: You have no chance to survive smoke your pole
Vlad: HA HA HA HA
AV3: Take off every 'cockring'
AV3: You know what you doing
AV3: Move 'jizcatcher'
AV3: For great justice
[ Reply to This | Parent ] Okay, Mr. Lockwood. (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 15, @11:32PM (#4683563) You really do have your heart set on fucking things up for yourself, don't you? We have the writing analysis scripts that can tell us exactly who posted any message. This is going to be your vary last warning. You get to choose the path that your life takes from here on out. It's up to you now. The ball's in your court. Post one more message, and the entire deal is off. Go ahead. We were almost certain that you'd never be able to stick to any agreement, because you are not a man of honor, but we wanted to give you a chance, so that when you fucked things up for yourself it wouldn't be anybody's fault but your own.
Go ahead. I'm waiting. Tell Mr. Corrigan we said hello, also. Unmask gave a 96% probability of him being a match on a comment that was posted here earlier. Nice try, though. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Okay, AV3, OSM, Craig and Trollaxor. (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 15, @11:43PM (#4683650) Let's call a spade a spade. You're not keeping up with your end of the bargan. The police will be called at the next phone call. Using a cloned cell will only make them look for you harder. You want to play the fucking game? Let's play. YOU broke the agreement not Scott. He's sitting right here next to me, with his fists clenched, wanting very badly to respond to this in person but he won't - because HE DID keep his word. You did not. How so?
Specifically:
The individuals who spoke to Mr. Lockwood on the telephone on Nov 4 2002 at approximately 2355, shall, of their own free will:
3. Notify other affiliated parties who have grudges against Mr. Lockwood and compel them to comply with this agreement as well.
End of the fucking message.
-- Dave [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Okay, AV3, OSM, Craig and Trollaxor. (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @12:07AM (#4683782) 4. ???
5. Profit! [ Reply to This | Parent ] Bullshit. (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @12:06AM (#4683777) Yawn. Not buying it, "Dave". I can't tell you how we know, but we know. We have independent confirmation on a lot of your recent goings-on. We can't compromise our sources, but we do have them. And we did notify all affiliated parties, and they were in agreement. Sorry if a few random posts by a few random nobodies with no connection to us caused you to make the decision to abandon the entire agreement and make things considerably worse for yourself.
I can guarantee you that you won't see another message about yourself if you can restrain yourself from loading Trolltalk. You're loading Trolltalk of your own free will. There was damn near no mention of you here for a week and a half until you decided to start posting again and ruin everything for yourself. You're talking really big when you don't even know who we are.
I said everything I had to say in my last comment in your Pinkerton Floyd sid, which you obviously didn't think it would be worth your time to read. Go read it. I'm not going to dignify any more of your messages with a response.
There's still time to compromise on this. Here are some new terms, take them or leave them, no negotation:
You stay off of Slashdot. That means Scott, "Dave", etc, or anyone in the entire damn household. We will run writing analysis scripts to check. Don't even read it. Don't even load the front page. Don't even visit Trolltalk. Don't even resolve the IP address. Stay off of Slashdot. And we'll never mention you again. We'll forget you exist. We can't control the actions of anyone else, but I imagine most everyone else will forget about you also if you stop intruding where you aren't wanted.
Just go away. Things were peaceful for everybody here for a week and a half until you started posting on Trolltalk again. You fucked it up. If you want it un-fucked, go away.
Do you think I'm joking? Do I sound like I'm joking? You've consistently lied, cheated, and bullshitted your way through life, Scott. Is it even in your capacity to be honest? I doubt it.
'nuff said. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Bullshit. (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @10:29AM (#4685397) You're the ones who need to do a reality check here. You're not complying with the agreement. The Agreement states that you would control all posting. The "thing" that started all of this was the announcement of the deal here in trolltalk.
It's up to YOU to keep the deal. The deal says NOTHING about anyone in the household reading trolltalk. There will be NO new deal without voice contact from a REGULAR phone during normal hours. HOLD UP YOUR END, because we already ARE holding up ours.
I don't know, and don't care WHAT someone else has told you, we've shot straight with you from the word go.
You have the nerve to commit a felony harrassing my family (yes, Scott and I are related) and then question his honnesty? You must have balls the size of grapefruit.
We warned that if the calls resume, the OTHER promise you were given (that you would be hunted down by the law) will become a reality. The taps are in place. Fuck with us one more time, and there won't be a peaceful solution.
-- Dave [ Reply to This | Parent ] TEH VLADEQUACY MUST BE PURGED (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 15, @11:11PM (#4683437)
It is time to set the record straight regarding the situation with respect to Vladinator/JCB/Reza/Lonesome Cowboy Burt/Whatever other aliases he may be using. The situation has been confused due to the recent world-wide influx of Vlad-haters, helper-cells, interested third parties and the occasional Vlad sympathizer [kuro5hin.org].
Let us start with a basic tenet of the Association of Anti-Vlad Avengers: There is no difference between William Scott Lockwood III and those who aid him, give him comfort, and/or use him as a substandard, "Always Save" hosting solution. Though we may have no direct quarrel with you, Mr. "Trollaxor", you appear to be friendly with Mr. Lockwood and - by your own admission - are using him as a substandard "Always Save" hosting solution. Consider the fact that if you were using a respectable host for your web site, you would not be having the difficulties you are having now. Also, with this attempt at ferreting out information for Mr. Lockwood, you are aiding and abetting our sworn enemy and have aligned yourself in direct oposition to a powerful internet force (that is, the AAA and its splinter groups).
This brings us to a primary characteristic of the AAA which has been detailed elsewhere, but which I will repeat here in interest of completeness: no single cell, as an entity, is aware of the members of any other cell. The structure of our association works as follows. Each cell is composed of no more and no less than three members who all reside in a roughly similar geographic area. One of the three members is designated as a messenger. This messenger is the only member in contact with a messenger from exactly two other cells. In this way, the members of each cell remain anonymous to the members of any other cell. If a messenger has been compromised, the corresponding cell is responsible for "cleansing" that messenger and replacing him or her with a new messenger. Such a cell will remain on probation - meaning they will only be allowed contact with a single other cell - until such time as the new messenger has been operating for no less than six months.
Our activities are clandestine and even if another cell wanted to share the information you request, it would not be able to because it would not be privy to said information.
As you can see the AAA, though very loosely connected, operates in a highly efficient manner and is deadly serious about the stated goals of the organization: namely, the complete, unconditional eradication of Vladinator, in any and all forms, from the internet.
We have been following the current situation with Vladinator's hosting service quite closely and we estimate the damages to be severe at this point. However, we cannot agree to end our champaign any sooner than already decided upon. We may have shown mercy in this, our second major attack, if Mr. Lockwood had shown the proper degree of humility at our hands. Instead, Mr. Lockwood responded with his usual barrage of lies [kuro5hin.org] and vitriol [kuro5hin.org]. For this reason, and the fact that we are otherwise bored, we have extended the length of this attack. We realize that Mr. Lockwood's hosting company will try various tricks to deflect our attack, things such as firewalls and IP banning. Eventually, they will succeed in eliminating the current attack at which point we will rest for a period of not less than seven days prior to initiating another attack.
We predict that the end of this second wave will result in another round of cockiness from Mr. Lockwood, given the highly reactionary character that he is. The next attack, which will be the "third wave", will be far more subtle than the current attack and will undoubtedly shake Mr. Lockwood's faith in his current alliances and dealings. This cycle of attack/end attack/Lockwood gets
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[ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:TEH VLADEQUACY MUST BE PURGED (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @01:25AM (#4684076) egregious
\E*gre"gious\ (?; 277), a. [L. egregius; lit., separated or chosen from the herd, i. e., distinguished, excellent; e out + grex, gregis, herd. See Gregarious.] Surpassing; extraordinary; distinguished (in a bad sense); -- formerly used with words importing a good quality, but now joined with words having a bad sense; as, an egregious rascal; an egregious ass; an egregious mistake.
The egregious impudence of this fellow. --Bp. Hall.
His [Wyclif's] egregious labors are not to be neglected. --Milton.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
egregious
adj : conspicuously and outrageously bad or reprehensible; "a crying shame"; "an egregious lie"; "flagrant violation of human rights"; "a glaring error"; "gross ineptitude"; "gross injustice"; "rank treachery" [syn: crying(a), flagrant, glaring, gross, rank]
[ Reply to This | Parent ] We are most Royally Displeased! (Score:1)
by MOMOCROME on Friday November 15, @10:55PM (#4683368)
(User #207697 Info) Years ago, I won the battle of the sids, and relegated all the old-guard troll cabal to the obscurity of a clumsy mailing list. I graciously left ?sid=trolltalk to the neopphytes and amateurs, as a sort of stomping ground wherein they might practice the craft. Trolltalk survives today as ?sid=20721, and the tradition had continued quite nicely until recently.
With Klerck acting as regent during the Geekizoid era (and furthering the art of the troll with skill and finesse, I might add), the slashdot underground moved along nicely, with the occasional hiccough brought on by taco and his feeble anti-trolling efforts.
Now it appears that inter-factional rivalry is attempting to rear its ugly head. The phoneboy cabal, after such ruthless and base treatment of vlad, in a capacity quite extending beyond that which is decent, breaking the code of troll ethics, our own version of 'honor among thieves', and in fact, quite actually breaking several state and federal anti-trolling laws, have debased this once lovely stomping ground and brought their diseased and perverted notions into the fore. And now they promise to utterly dominate the underworld of our own slashdot! This cannot be allowed to happen.
And so, as your rightful King, I do hereby proclaim an edict: Henceforth, anyone attached to the Phoneboy Cabal is to be considered corpus memento, and is to be treated as such with extreme prejudice. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Troll ethics? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @05:40AM (#4684792) Any troller with "ethics" is no troller at all. Ethics keep a person weak and stupid. Being a troller is about being strong and powerful. You can't reach your full potential until you abandon any concept of ethics, decency, and morality. That's why we are strong, and you are weak and stupid. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Who the fuck are you? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @12:57AM (#4683977) You are not relevant. Go away. [ Reply to This | Parent ] IAWTP (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @04:27AM (#4684609) I Agree With This Post!
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @06:40AM (#4684892) big suprise! you agree with providing shit sucking rim jobs and his scrotal fungus, too. thanks for playing though. [ Reply to This | Parent ] GOD DAMMIT MORMOCRORE (Score:1)
by gbwd on Saturday November 16, @12:51AM (#4683956)
(User #626693 Info) I am George Beauregard Washington Donnely, President of Trolltalk, son of former President George Beauregard Donnely, and I say there is NO MORMOCRORE IN TROLLTALK. Get your ass outa here or else we'll invade your little backwater website [shits-r-us.com] and institute a regime change. The Axis of Evil will not survive in this place. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:GOD DAMMIT MORMOCRORE (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @03:08AM (#4684421) a pale imitation of the father does not a leader make, my dear little one. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:We are most Royally Displeased! (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @12:47AM (#4683937) why don't you go peel out in your mustang and shut the fuck up. fat ass. [ Reply to This | Parent ] The battle for the future of trolling beings... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 15, @11:14PM (#4683447) We have an exciting match for you today, ladies and gentlemen:
In the blue corner:
Has-been no-talent hacks, operating under the name Vladequacy. Those of Adequacy who didn't flee before the ship sank. Their allies, long-term Kings Of The Krapflooders and sworn enemies of Slashdot Trolling: William Scott "Pinkrectum Floyd" Lockwood III and MOMOCHROME. They've tried to destroy trolling on Slashdot for years... will they succeed?
In the red corner:
The Slashdot Trollers, the heirs of the k22320inchfan ideal, and the guardians of the future. The True Slashdot Trollers. Heirs of a great legacy that came into being nearly five years ago, and the people who have kept trolling alive through the long Dark Ages of Geekizoid and Adequacy. The best and the brightest former Adequists, who fled the ship before it sunk and now fight for justice against their former comrades who have given up on trolling by making a pact with evil itself. The best new trollers on the Slashdot scene, as well as wise old veterans who are finally taking sides in this, the final conflict.
My money is on the red corner. I'm betting that Vladequacy will be TKO'd in the third round. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:The battle for the future of trolling beings... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16, @01:22AM (#4684066) apologies
Apology \A*pol"o*gy\, n.; pl. Apologies. [L. apologia, Gr. ?; ? from + ?: cf. F. apologie. See Apologetic.] 1. Something said or written in defense or justification of what appears to others wrong, or of what may be liable to disapprobation; justification; as, Tertullian's Apology for Christianity.
It is not my intention to make an apology for my poem; some will think it needs no excuse, and others will receive none. --Dryden.
2. Anything provided as a substitute; a makeshift.
3. An acknowledgment intended as an atonement for some improper or injurious remark or act; an admission to another of a wrong or discourtesy done him, accompanied by an expression of regret.
He goes to work devising apologies for window curtains. --Dickens.
Syn: Excuse.
Usage: An apology, in the original sense of the word, was a pleading off from some charge or imputation, by explaining and defending one's principles or conduct. It therefore amounted to a vindication. One who offers an apology, admits himself to have been, at least apparently, in the wrong, but brings forward some palliating circumstance, or tenders a frank acknowledgment, by way of reparation. We make an apology for some breach of propriety or decorum (like rude expressions, unbecoming conduct, etc.), or some deficiency in what might be reasonably expected. We offer an excuse when we have been guilty of some breach or neglect of duty; and we do it by way of extenuating our fault, and with a view to be forgiven. When an excuse has been accepted, an apology may still, in some cases, be necessary or appropriate. ``An excuse is not grounded on the claim of innocence, but is rather an appeal for favor resting on some collateral circumstance. An apology mostly respects the conduct of individuals toward each other as equals; it is a voluntary act produced by feelings of decorum, or a desire for the good opinion of others.'' --Crabb.
[ Reply to This | Parent ] You are history, old man. (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 15, @10:58PM (#4683379) Your time is in the distant past. Nobody follows you anymore. You have no power. You have nothing. You know nothing. You ARE nothing. You aren't even a Troller. We are the Trollers. We're in charge here. Pull down your pants and bend over. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:You are history, old man. (Score:1)
by gbwd on Saturday November 16, @12:54AM (#4683960)
(User #626693 Info) None of my citizens will call themselves "Trollers". We are Trolls, plain and simple. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:You are history, old man. (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 15, @11:06PM (#4683410) s/The/Teh/gi
J00 ar3 vary g4y pls die tnx!!! [ Reply to This | Parent ] Trolltalk post #777. (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 15, @10:36PM (#4683282) The number of God (who is us). [ Reply to This | Parent ] Final warning to Vladequacy. (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 15, @10:28PM (#4683239) An amnesty is being extended to those with Adequacy affiliations, and others who may wish to save themselves from what is to come. You are being given one final chance to join teh winning team and avoid destruction. On January 1st, 2003, you can witness history in teh making and be forevar remembered as a part of teh greatest revolution in teh history of Trolling. Or you can be ground into dust by teh jackboot of obscurity, relegated to teh dustbins of trolling history as teh non-person has-beens you currently are.
Do you know where teh momentum lies? Do you know where teh power lies? Do you know who hold teh winning cards in his hand? It's not you. Years ago, maybe. Not anymore. You think that you are k22320inchfan. You aren't. Not anymore. Teh k22320inchfan essence was taken from you long ago. You nevar even noticed when its rightful heir walked off with it; you just slipped gradually into mediocrity and boredom. K22320inchfan is being held elsewhere, in secret, guarded by people who know how to use it. You don't have it anymore. We do. We are teh k22320inchfan, not you. We have teh power, not you. We will survive, not you.
This will be your only warning.
Join us or die. CAN you do any less?
Don't get me wrong, I love DS9 though.
It's too bad the many talented folks on DS9 were let go to work on so many great other shows after the show ended.
Of course, the rich tapestry that was DS9 probably threatened Brannon and Rick and thus we ended up with Voyager and Enterprise.
That I can feel free to express my true opinion of Star Trek. It SUCKS, it sucks big. I can't stand watching it, any of it. It's stupidity drives me insane. Star Trek is no different from the soap operas that old ladies watch on daytime afternoons. The plots and characters are exactly the same, just because the setting is outer space doesn't make it cool.
The spaceship fights have no action. The ships float their, occasionally shoot a laser at each other, they show camera shots of the bridge shaking and captains arguing, and they worry about shields going down. TAKE A HINT from any other movie with space combat. Lots of ships flying around real fast shooting lots of laster and blasters everywhere, lots of explosions and action.
I hate Star Trek. It's a soap opera diguised as science fiction. If you like it I can't fault you for it, everyone has a right to like what they want. As long as you know that it's a soap opera that you are liking and not science fiction. putting general hospital in a space station hospital doesn't make it sci-fi, nor does it make it cool.
To stay on topic think about these DVDs that are coming out and how much they will cost. Think about what else you can spend that money on and how many things you can get that are better than a bunch of star trek dvds. You can probably pick up a few video games. Or you can get the Monty Python boxed set, which everyone should own. You can get some new hardware, or software (if you're the type of person who buys software).
Ok, you may now mod me down into all oblivion.
Well a space station sitting in space with people in it and all is fine, but it doesn't convey the same heart-breaking feeling as a full ship crew far away from home, a show like VOYAGER. These dudes are so far away from their families, and still they make friends with locals and let them hop in for a ride. Voyager is tear-breaking sci-fi. Truly emotional.
Star Trek fans wondering what to do with life once all seven seasons of Star Trek: The Next Generation on DVD have been released come December can take heart: Star Trek: Deep Space Nine on DVD is following right behind.
Season 1 of DS9 on DVD Paramount Home Entertainment has announced that the entire series of DS9, plus a Gamma Quadrant's worth of special extras, will be issued on DVD in 2003 with Season One due on February 25th.
Season One of DS9 on DVD will come in a six-disc collector's box set containing, naturally, all of the Season One episodes, along with new, never before seen featurettes. New seasons of DS9 will be available every other month.
The DS9 DVD's feature newly remixed Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround and exclusive retrospective featurettes. Fans who pick up the TNG Seasons Six and Seven will be able to get a peek at the upcoming DS9 DVD's, as special trailers have been added to the TNG sets.
Season 1 of DS9 on DVDThe DS9 DVD Contents are as follows:
Disc 1: "Emissary," "Past Prologue," "A Man Alone"
Disc 2: "Babel," "Captive Pursuit," "Q-Less," "Dax"
Disc 3: "The Passenger," "Move Along Home," "The Nagus," "Vortex"
Disc 4: "Battle Lines," "The Storyteller," "Progress," "If Wishes Were Horses"
Disc 5: "The Forsaken," "Dramatis Personae," "Duet," "In the Hands of the Prophets"
Disc 6: Special Features, including the feature Deep Space Nine: A Bold Beginning, Crew Dossier: Kira Nerys, Michael Westmore's Aliens: Season One, Secrets of Quark's Bar, Alien Artifacts: Season One, Deep Space Nine Sketchbook, Deep Space Nine Chronicles, Section 31 Hidden Files and a Photo Gallery.
So DS9 fans should take January to clear off more shelf space, because on February 25, the wormhole opens.
If I remember correctly, DS9 season 1 was kinda lame. I heard it got better in later seasons, but they don't show DS9 on TV where I live any more.
I did manage to watch the entire run of Babylon 5, and that was much better than any Star Trek, in comparison.
"Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it." -- Linus Torvalds
Can't wait for the big battles near the end of the show!!
try saying that three tiems fast
Rich Tapestry? Did I miss that one in some episode?
The last series that I ever saw that had that would be Babylon 5. Jeremiah seems to be turning out to be that too.
What we see depends on mainly what we look for. -- John Lubbock Now search for that bug slave!
when you can just go buy the Babylon5 season 1 box set now and see the same story [ me ducks :-) ]
or is that pricegrabber link under the realted links new....
~ a low user id is no indication I have a clue what I'm talking about.
Funny that you mention it... I've been tuning in recently to TNN's TNG broadcasts, and remembering how good, and how BAD Trek can be. Some episodes are funny, spooky, interesting or downright cool, but seeing it now as an adult, its not nearly as cool as I remember it being when I was a kid.
The Best of Both Worlds may have been better than most of the movies, but half the time the script didn't live up. The chemistry of TNG had that special something that later series tried to capture with little success, but it DIDN'T have the awesome writing of later series.
Late-season voayger had some fantastic writers at the helm, and as for DS9, a decade after TNG, I'll say that it's severly underrated. Never had Trek ventured so much into politics and religion, never had individuals had so powerful motivations and messages. DS9 had better characters and a deeper milieu than TNG. But because there was no space opera, no flying around and blasting aliens, it wasn't as successful.
Nevermind, I guess I'll buy the DVDS. But that's just my 2 cents.
Deepsace nine had the most intense battle scenes ever in any tv show. Those big war scenes with those crazy camera angles was awesome!
One thing that I loved was when they simulated a camera being attached to the hull of the defiant. That looked really awesome when they were flying in circles and shooting people.
You are right that the first few seasons were like a soap opera but every few episodes it got to be more then that. I suggest you watch the last 3 seasons of DS9, you'll realize its one of the best sci-fi shows ever.
..that it had no coherent plot arc that spanned more than four episodes in a row (O'Brien is suicidal one episode, his normal self the next!), and the fact that it became a rip off of Babylon 5 ("They're having a war. We need one! Sheridan's going beyond the rim? Let's send Sisko to the Prophets!")..
I *liked* DS9. I'd actually say I liked it more than Next Gen. It certainly kicks the crap out of Voyager and Enterprise.
Why? One word. Klingons. They are, without a doubt, the coolest part of the entire Trek franchise. They aren't based off of screwed up yet glaringly obvious mythology, like Vulcans and Romulans. They're not just another alien species with bumps on their nose, like the Bajorans and fifty other races. They.. Well, okay, two reasons - Cardassians were pretty damned cool - Garrick, at least.
I wish my tailor went out and killed people.
Despite my bitching about DS9's plot arc, or lack thereof, I'll give them credit - they started forging one in the last seasons. So far, it's the only Trek series to have done that.
Since I have a slight hangover, I'll cheer loudly, and leave you with this quote:
"Comment?! Klingon programmers do not comment!"
Ron Moore was one of the main guys to then go onto Voyager from DS9 (he did Q&A sessions available on TrekWeb).
He went over to try and sort some of the problems out (i.e. continuity reset button, more fluid story arc, etc), but ended up leaving because he couldn't work with people who just didn't give a shit about trying to make the series better anymore (i.e. the writers).
Although I don't have a link of where he gave his reasons for leaving, but it's out there... somewhere (a bit like my desire for watching Enterprise, it has completely disappeared).
Are you local? There's nothing for you here!
DS9 ripped off Bablyon 5 for many ideas, didn't you know? But that's neither here nor there. Or something.
Let's put it this way: Comparing DS9 to Babylon 5 is like comparing a Teach Yourself X Language in 24 Hours book to Knuth.
But comparing DS9 to the rest of the Trek franchise, yes, it had a damned rich tapestry - at least once the Shadow, err, Dominion War got going.
And this is Deep Space Nine... Not great cinema was it...
And when the format changes (as it will, you can pay all over again.)
You can. I won't. I hope that there's too few suckers out there for the studios to make yet another buck off this.
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The new Star Treks needed a DoomsDay machine to contend with! Imagine a Voyager episode where a DoomsDay machine is running amuck in the Delta Quadrent and a borg cube or tactical battle cube happens to get gobbled along the way. Neat idea. :)
:D Especially if it gobbles a few planets in the process. >:)
Imagine an episode of DS9 where the Dominion actually gained control of a DoomsDay machine.. Oooho DS9 is a sitting duck.
TNG, hmm.... That would be interesting to see a Galaxy class face off against one of those. Or perhaps another fleet battle facing off against it. The potential is staggering to think about.
Enterprise... Ripe for an encounter with the Doomsday machine since it wasn't killed in the alpha quadrent yet!
Sci-Fi isn't all about love interests and peace in the galaxy through talking. Things MUST be blown up in good fight scenes and the Doomsday machine would make plenty of waves in the process! WHOOOT! Gobble up a few and have a bud afterwards!
~~ Behold the flying cow with a rail gun! ~~
Babylon 5 handily beat DS9 in terms of 'most intense battle scenes ever'. (They also beat the last battle of Return of the Jedi, claiming for a short while, 'most ships on screen in a battle'.)
I will say that DS9 kicked the living crap out of all else Trek in terms of actual battle instead of, "Cap'n! The shields canna take mahch mer! Och! Me scotch! She's fahlen on th'deck'n shahtahrd!"
For the first few seasons, Space Opera Drivel. For the last seasons, they actually attempted some semblence of a plot arc. More importantly, they showed plenty of Klingon action.
Hmm. Klingon action. Now there'd be a successful spam campaign. Who wouldn't smile at seeing, "FWD: HOT KLINGON ACTION!!!! FOR KAHLESS!!" in their inbox?
"To boldy stay where no man has stayed before."
The first season of Babylon 5 is available NOW on DVD.
For those who aren't aware, or haven't seen, Babylon 5 has a far more interesting and COHESIVE story than DS9 - and DS9 was the closest approximation ST ever had to a cohesive storyline.
What do I mean by cohesive? Simply this: there's no reset button. Everything isn't solved at the end of the episode, all mutations un-mutated, all weird twists un-twisted. There are episodes in Season 5 which are tied closely to what happened in episodes from the other four seasons.
There's a real story - beginning, middle, and end. It spreads over the full 5 seasons. And, if my opinion isn't already clear - that's huge. It's a good story, and worth exercising your attention span for.
Sure, their special effects budget wasn't as rich as $T. Some threads get mangled because an actor wasn't available two seasons after the seeds were planted. When you consider the difficulty of producing a cohesive epic 5-season TV show, though, B5 did pretty good.
YHBT. YHL. HAND.
I loved this scene:
Quark: "I want you to try something for me. Take a sip of this."
Garak: "What is it?"
Quark: "A Human drink, it's called Root Beer."
Garak: "Ahh, I don't know....."
Quark: "Come on....Aren't you in the least bit curious?"
Quark: "..........What d'you think?"
Garak: "It's vile!"
Quark: "I know. It's so bubbly and cloy, and happy."
Garak: "Just like the Federation....."
Quark: "But do you know what's really frightening? If you drink enough of it you begin to like it...."
Garak: "....It's insidious...."
Quark: "....Just like the Federation."
Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
Thinking that chick in the new Dell Intern commercials really needs to get done in the ass?
Maybe while she's going down on Ellen Feiss?
Nana Visitor in her pyjamas. As a 31 year old male with a perpetual hard-on, I must say I really go for the older ladies that look much younger.
I'd treat her real good. She looks good enough to eat! Yum yum! Crunch crunch on the cookie!
The worst part is somebody modded his post +5 informative. And he's a star trek idiot.
I thought /.ers don't hate MPAA/RIAA so much, right? But then, every week, we see this "Oooh, shiny DVD/CD" on some shit repackaged over and over, over (ok, I don't know if this one is repackaged or not, as I don't watch TV for the last five years now). And then every new or repackaged DVD/CD is a must-have.
/. prefereneces if I can filter out all these movie/tv/CD/DVD-related junks.
No wonder we get all these stupid DMCA, permanent mickey mouse copyright extension, regional DVD encoding, "copy protection scheme" CD, etc. People would scream "bloody hell" one minute and rush to spend money on whatever MPAA/RIAA care to put on the market the next minute after. If I were an executive of an MPAA/RIAA-member corporation, I would have done exactly the same thing to milk you people, because that's too easy.
Sometimes, you can feel so lonely trying to make people understand MPAA/RIAA are bad, and there are many ways you can change things, and one of these is to vote with your money. Am I the only person here who don't own DVD player, don't have cable TV and don't watch TV, don't buy CD, don't go to cinema?
(I do go to live concerts tho).
Whatever, you can mod me down into oblivion for venting here, but I'm going to look at
You've never seen DS9, have you AC? ;-) :-)
I was initially pissed off at my TV station that promised Trekkers that they would bring the new Star Trek series to our screens, and when they fell through, I transferred that anger to DS9 itself. I was saying, "Well how good could a show where they don't go anywhere be?" It was sour grapes, until I say my first show in Winnipeg on a 4 inch black and white screen, and I loved it. I was in Trek withdrawl, and DS9 was my new fix.
Years later, I started to tape the show at my Grandparents house, and when the tape was full, I'd bring it home and watch it. I got to see Voyager this way too. I started watching just when both series started to get really good. I watched the last 3 seasons of DS9 with a 3 week tape delay. Anyone who has seen more than a few shows, knows that they leave the station frequently, and even when they don't, interesting aliens visit the station anyway. And there is always Quark's bar and holosuites
TNG doesn't go flying around in every show, and not everyone centers on their voyage, anyway. To keep costs down, both TOS and TNG shot entire shows in closed sets with the meager benefit of stock ship warping shots. I can think of dozens of DS9 episodes where the station is not the scene of the action. And around season 3, Worf and the Defiant show up too
So don't be like me, and bash DS9 before seeing it. Like any Trek series, if you watch it, you'll like it. And if you don't, you aren't using your imagination very well.
Saskboy's blog is good. 9 out of 10 dentists agree.
I am a huge fan of all the other series, but I really disliked DS9. It was all politics to me.
It's odd because most fans I know didn't care for Voyager, but I thought it was great.
I like Enterprise a lot too. Took a little while to grow on me but it's not too bad.
More than anything I think I'd like to see a followup series AFTER STNG with Riker as Captain.
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
I'll be getting them both.
Because one story is good doesn't render the other bad. I think they were both good series, for very different reasons.
That they're both set on a space station is pretty much where most similarities end.
The best show ever, Northern Exposure still remains DVD-less.
The only Trek worth watching is the originals. It got all PC in TNG and after not to mention TECHNOBABBLE ARGH! Random words strung together does not make for an entertaining conclusion to an episode.
Which season had the Borg season finalie (or was it season premiere) episode? That's my all time favourite - STTNG and DS9 together.
I'll be buying that boxed set!
It will be a GREAT set to own, and I can't wait!
The wheel is turning, but the hamster is dead.
I particularly liked DS9 compared to all the other Treks because it presented a much more realistic view of the Federation. In the other Treks, the federation was presented as a socialist utopia. On DS9, we saw dissent (the Marquis), underhanded tactics (the changeling disease, section 9). The politics actually made it more interesting rather than presenting a good guys vs. bad guys all the time.
In DS9 the federation isnt perfect, bad things do happen, the captain and crew isnt above doing some underhanded things to get what it takes to get the job done.
My favourite character all the trek series is from DS9- Garrick. I know everyone loves Kirk, but Kirk is to nice, Garrick is just cool, machiavellian to the core, you gotta love him haha.
btw: the german (with a full english audio track) Babylon 5 Code 2 DVD is very cheap (30 ) so if your player supports PAL and Code 2 you may want to consider the Cheaper Code 2 DVD. (but Episode 8 has some errors (the 4:3 cgi is scaled to 16:9 so it doesnt look that good))
the natural sequel to DS9 of course - in which Captain Steven P. Jobs explores the strange new worlds of the seemingly enless tract of space called Intel 4 and it's sister universe Athlon.
The main ally in Athlon will be the Durons. A technologically slow but friendly race with a cranial crest of metal spikes which can be used as a weapon in pinch and the ability to do most calculations in their heads.
Captain Steve on the intrepid ship OSS Xmac will, on a weekly basis, have to partner with the inferior but faithful Athlons to deal with the schemeing inhabitants of the Intel universe and their ability to subsume entire worlds by taking over the population using their superior weapons R&D and the ability to heat up and melt plastic if threatened.
Cake or Death? Cake Please!
will be 'G'.
A mysterious being represented by a small wormlike creature that crawls in the ear of it's victims and watches everything they do gaining unlimited knowledge and using it to blackmail leaders of races and the people they lead into subservience. A recurring theme in DS X will be the use of a special GNU-Ray device to rid a poor soul of it's 'G' infestation bringing them back to their senses. The worm will spring from the mouth of the victim being 'saved' , rock back and forth, make some notes on an electronic tablet, laugh a little 'heh-heh' laugh and dematerialize.
Cake or Death? Cake Please!
The Changelings are worried enough about the Federation to engage in a major war against it
Changelings are excellent spies. Even after the Federation was aware of them, and taking measures against them, we saw Changelines take the place of the top Klingon, and infiltrate very high into Starfleet.
Starfleet has been penetrated before. E.g., in TNG, there were those aliens that crawled down your throat and took over...those got into, I think, at least an Admiral.
We've seen many more, in TNG and the OS, that tried to penetrate Starfleet, but were foiled.
We also saw in several DS9 episodes that there are corrupt or rogue elements within Starfleet. Section 31, for example. Whether these are really due to bad humans, or the result of alien penetration is up for speculation.
Given all that, here's how they could have ended the series. The Changelings are fighting the Federation not because they just have an irrational hatred of solids from years of mistreatment before they started the Dominion. Rather, they oppose the Federation because they have spies at the highest levels and know the truth. The "good guy" Federation that Sisko is fighting for is just a sham, covering up evil people (or aliens) that are trying to grab galaxy-wide power.
The series could have ended with Sisko realizing this, and changing sides, working as a rebel trying to overthrow the evil side of the Federation to save the good side.
Best Start Trek series ever.
DS9 was the only show that had genuine pathos, a sense of deep tragedy. The moment I'm thinking of at the moment is when Gul Dukat's illegimate daughther Tora is killed as a traitor by Garak. (It was so rare in the other series for someone to get killed whose name you knew or cared about.)
:) I don't mean to suggest or exclude any racial prejudice, but that decision was plainly stupid; Avery Brooks was one the most talented actors they ever had, on a par with Patrick Stewart who, when given good material, really shone.
In another episode, the essential crew (ever notice how all the most valuable people go on all the dangerous away missions) tried to salvage a crashed Dominion warship and are besieged by the Jem'Hadar (I had to check these spelling, BTW -- see startrek.com). One of the crewman is wounded and dies slowly! This was one of the few times the essential nastiness of dying in war was explored. Most often, Star Trek was very hygenic about these things, even vaporizing the corpse.
DS9 was generally more character-centered, both individuals and entire civilizations such as Ferengi, Klingons, the Jem'Hadar/Founders symbiosis, Bajoran, and so on. Voyager was the polar opposite, dominated by technobabble -- I think even the writers call it that, it's inserted after the script is written, which should give a sense of its irrelevance.
The real world doesn't have a plot arc, and I'm not sure a long-running series should either, though it does need continuity. DS9 was mostly about struggling to exist in a hostile crossroads of the galaxy. If you want predictable plot arc, again you have Voyager. No I didn't hate V'ger, but it has good episodes whereas DS9 was a good series.
One bit of analysis I would like to throw out is that it is disturbing that the captain the Trek people choose to snub, it's the only black captain and really the best and most powerful black actor in the entire franchise. (Let me explain that Uhura is wonderful but given little to say or do until the movies -- and Travis (Enterprise) has so far (non) developed like Uhura; Tuvok is a sterile bore who made Spock look like a rabid Klingon; Geordi, well, admit he got on our nerves; and I'm not quite sure whether to count Worf, though it goes without saying he's a cool dude, at least I would never criticize him to his face
Incidentally, was it ever adequately explained how Klingon technology evolved in a society where they kill each other over social slights?
None of those skinny ass chicks compare to those great ass cheeks of Nana, A.K.A Col. Kira. That chick that married Rom has a nice caboose too, and a nice rack.
...everytime I see the Scarecrow commanding the Babylon 5 station.
We are not worthy
Oops -- Tora was not "killed by Garak" the tailor; she was killed by what's-his-face, you know the bad Cardassian who later becomes a grudging good guy when he realizes the Founders are going to exterminate his people.
Just trying to head off a correction for my typo!
Never attempt written comedy right after waking up, kids.
(looking forward to the lectures about stealing things I don't like paying for)
sic transit gloria mundi
The episode'd be called...
... a bummer...
... and I'm a Dominion Captain.
"Switch"
I can see the promo for it.
*Sisko, shifting from foot to foot*
I was writing a message, on the console, when - beep! beep! beep! beep! beep! beep! - and like, half of my message was gone! And I was like... ngggh? Evil Federation spies had devoured, my message.
It was a really good message. And then I had to do it fast... so it wasn't as good. I could see how Changlings feel. And it was like
I'm Benjamin Sisko
Cake or Death? Cake Please!
See also Sports Night, now available in a no-frills but nonetheless complete DVD set -- both seasons in one box.
Sports Night was canceled by ABC, who didn't know how to market it (it was a highly intelligent comedy -- imagine that). The final episode was a beautiful dig at ABC: "Anybody who can't make money off Sports Night should get out of the money-making business," spoken by the billionaire tech geek who bought out the fictitious CSC cable network and its "Sports Night" news show.
Sports Night featured one of my favorite characters ever, Jeremy Goodwin, a sports/computer nerd and a /. reader if there ever was one on TV.
Brilliant show. I wish they'd strip out the laugh track from the first season (as with the comparable M*A*S*H, the network didn't think viewers would know which parts were funny), but hey, that's for the Special Collector's Edition, right?
Note: You can check out Sports Night on Comedy Central, but they re-cut the episodes for different commercial breaks, which screws up the act structure.
I loved TNG when I was in junior high, but as an adult, I look at it now and see a show made for teenagers. Feeling isolated and different? Don't worry, Data, Worf, Wesley, and Jordy are ALL there to remind you that you're not alone. DS9, however, is good science-fiction , period. Two absolutely great episodes, Far Beyond The Stars and In The Pale Moonlight were simply great fiction in any milieu, which I just didn't find the other series delivering. (rather, it seemed to be all about seeing our much-beloved gang in new situations -- look: the night shift! look: Data with a cat! Ok, sometimes this worked to spectacular effect -- case in point, Picard's lifetime spent on the dying planet) I did initially find DS9 to be rather boring -- I didn't care about Bajorans OR Cardassians. But a few seasons in, I started seeing some of my favorite science fiction anywhere. Don't know about you, but I could have watched half a season of O'Brien skulking around with "The Syndicate." Though if they made another episode where O'Brien and Keiko continuously squabbled, I would have shot myself in the head and bled contempt. I see what some of you are saying about B5, but honestly, I just don't get it. Yes, no one hour solutions. Yes, bold attempt to create a non-Trek universe (difficult these days when Trek has such a grip on pop culture). But somehow... they just seem to do it all so badly. As for other series, I'll be shilling out whatever I can afford to get Six Feet Under when it comes out... after I get my DS9, of course. :)
Oh, and had to get some James Darren tunes. I'm spending my rehab time at Vic's place.
Oh, don't even get me started on Voyager.
get a life...beam me up goat.se
Nicole in panties! *drool*
And for once, do as I say and not as I do!
We do not live in the 21st century. We live in the 20 second century.
The first season of Babylon 5 was just released on DVD, and there appears to be an echoing silence on Slashdot. What's the deal? A bad episode of B5 is better than most good episodes of ST:TNG, and I'm speaking as someone who still has his off-the-air tape of "Encounter at Farpoint" lying around somewhere. :-)
Paramount.
:O
If you browse the trivia section of Star Trek I, you will see that Paramount has quite a history of misinforming the public about what their plans are. They said they would start a new series, when at the same time they planned to make a Motion Picture instead.
That's just one example. I have heard official and unofficial rumors about the release of Enterprise season 1 on dvd. According to a Paramount executive, it was scheduled for march. March 2002.
And DS9? I lost count of how many announcements there were for DS9 DVDs. What I do know is that most of them were official Paramount announcements. There's been catalogs of Vendors that stated the availability of DS9 DVDs. And what happened? Nothing.
I have my serious doubts about this. But if DS9 will be released on DVD - I'll still be the first to order them. And that even though Paramount has deceived their fans so often. It's just.. that series is just so good
If a train station is a place where a train stops, what's a workstation?
Yes, you get 26 episodes, blah blah blah, but...
Stargate: SG1 runs $45-55 per season (5 DVDs).
The Simpsons runs about $25-35 per season (3-4 DVDs).
$100 a damned season for TNG? You're looking at $700 plus tax for the entire series.
Even TOS comes out to around $700-800 for all episodes--at barely 3 seasons, I believe, that's more like $200-$300 per season!
If the Star Trek eps were down to SG1 prices, about $45-55 per season, I'd buy all of TOS, TNG, DS9, and any others they put out and I wouldn't think twice about it.
At $100 a season though...forget it.
Seinfeld.
The B5 DVDs are great - the only down side is the full series won't be out for a while. The second season is due out April 2003 and the third the following November. Like a good book, the DVDs are hard to put down.
Thanks to the fact it's a flowing plot line I've seen all of season 1 over the past three days. Now I'm stuck. I *need* to see season 2 but I have to wait.
*argh* I hate seeing only half a movie - and that's what like seeing only one season of B5 is like.
Hah. That show is pathetic, nobody actually watches it. (That I know of.) Just seeing the first episode was a turn off, seeing how they had that skanky scene with the vulcan and the guy, I'm sorry, on a first episode that's just wrong... Also, if I wanted to see a show that goes back a few hundred years, I would want to see a hell of a lot of nostalgia: Red shirted ensigns all the way! As fir DS9, sure it doesn't get the attention it deserves, but after TNG I think most of the treks just started rotting away. But that's just my opinion...
Well, it doesn't jog -my- memory (little does these days), but I Google'd your clue. It looks like you're right, though none of the sources are worth citing (can't anyone spell any more? the trekkies make slashdot look immaculate). One clever observation is that both races name their ships after birds.
Most of the trek speculation about Romulans and Klingons centers on the Klingon transformation from the lightly soiled guys of TOS and the ridged monsters exemplified by Worf. Some speculate the smooth foreheads were the result of Kligon/Romulan interbreeding, later after Romulan betrayal driven out of the species.
A search for "klingon engineer" brings up a moderate amount of stuff, mostly citing Voyager's half-Klingon B'Elanna Torres. Several others are mentioned. In the current Enterprise ("Sleeping Dogs") there was an Officer Bu'kah on the bird of prey rescued from being crushed in a planet's atmosphere. There was also a female Klingon scientist is one of the TNG's. There is no end to further speculation.
In Voyager, they threw in a sensitive engineer from the Harogen (phonetic).
Then there are the Ferengi. They probably just bought it, for a good price.
this means in 3 months I'll be able to download higher quality DVD rips to replace my DS9 collection!
Repeal the DMCA!
...The first season of B5 has been out on DVD for a week or two now.
Okay, here's the thing. I sincerely believe that DS9 is the best one. Everything from the first contact with the Dominion to the end of season 6 was awesome. The best shit ever. But for season 7 they killed off Jadzia Dax and replaced her with a nerd, and the writing got boring and trite, though it was still far better than say, season 7 of TNG. The only thing that *really* made me mad was that in the finale they killed off Weyoun (or his 'last clone'). Man, that guy was the best character ever. But at least, like you say, the space battles were unmatched.
BUT, for all the protestations that Voyager sucked ass, I disagree--well, partly. The first few years of Voyager were absolutely terrible, surely the nadir of startrek so far. None of the characters were the *least bit* interesting, except maybe the doctor, and enemies like the Kazon were a big yawn of a nothing. Plus they made Janeway some kind of female Captain Picard, but forgot to give her a personality or a brain. But then they got rid of Kes, brought in 7/9, and eventually turned Janeway into a useable character. I swear that one of the best startrek scenes ever is the one where the Doctor is trying to teach 7/9 to sing "You are my Sunshine". I mean *come on*, how can you not love that? "you are my sunshine, my only sunshine, you make me happy..." by a borg and a hologram. Supurb. (maybe that's some of the punchline you were looking for)
And I watch Enterprise, and *I* like it. Frankly i consider season 1 of enterprise to be farrrr better than that of tng, ds9 or voyager. People complain about the softcore porn in the pilot ("it's a distraction, it takes away from teh philosophy blah blah blah")...well look how many alien chicks captain kirk got with. Enterprise is another step in a long tradition of sexed up sci fi. Plus most of the characters are awesome, particularly that chief engineer guy, Tucker. Every alien he meets you can practically sense him trying to restrain himself from uttering, "WTF are you?"
As for buying those ds9 DVDs, count me in. But I just can't sit by while people entirely denigrate Voyager and say they despise Enterprise on principle. I hope it goes 10 seasons and they start 5 different wars with the klingons. I'll be in rapt suspense.
--RMT
Well.. I've seen people complaining about the lack of DS( reruns on this thread. In cananda the cable chan space has the WHOLE trek franchaise from tos to voy every day. If you have 4 hours to kill a day it's great television. Yoho. p.s. Each series follows itself linearly.
My god, I am/was a hard-core b5 fanboy during the original broadcast but afterwards I look back and think two things: 1-he did a great job making up stuff as he went along and actors dropped out and 2-jms can't write dialog that's not horribly stilted to save his life.
I shudder now listening to some of the heroic monologues Sheridan and Ivanova and (oh geez) Delenn made.
I *liked* the show a lot. G'kar and Londo kick freaking ass.
But Sisko and Garak and...DS9 is simply a richer, fuller story. Less preachy (which is incredible after TNG) than B5 and more fun too!
"News for Nerds", sure, but Trek nerds will already know about this. Others won't care about a boxed Star Trek set.
It seems to me that something like "Friends - season 1" boxed set would be more appropriate. It shows people with knowledge of hygiene dressing nicely and having normal relationships. Very useful information for nerds.
Or how about when the latest "Girls Gone Wild" dvd is released? After all, man does not whack to jpgs alone...
Speaking of DS9, the movie Nemesis is supposed to be "a generation's final journey."
Which cast will star in the next Star Trek movie(s)?
"Anyway, long story short... is a phrase whose origins are complicated and rambling...." - Abraham Simpson
B5 DVDs are not encripted. The do have Macrovision, though.
Start Trek DVDs are encripted AND have Mascrovision Protection.
It looks that they dont care if you pirate B5.
The DO care if you pirate Star Trek.
The Movie/TV industry think that Star Trek is a more valuable asset than B5. Otherwise they would encript B5, not only Star Trek.
Probably this is why B5 is cheaper than Star Trek - the B5 DVDs are not encripted
All DVDs you mention (Stargate, B5, etc) are
so cheap because they do not have CSS encription.
Star Trek DVDs have CSS encription AND Macrovision.
CSS encription costs money
and that's all i have to say on the matter. Jadzia and the next one were hot, though. Oh yah, Kira, too.
TOS
TNG
Voyager
DS9
Enterprise
TOS was excellent considering their low budget and the fact it was well over 30 years ago. Just the right blend of action and thought. And it kicked ass the way there was a crew member of each race (in the 60s).
TNG - a bit 80s but Patrick Stewart's a great actor and he's British. The annoying habit of getting out of impossible situations by inventing new science on the spot is a little annoying, as are characters like Wesley - how sad. For all that I think it's actually pretty good.
Voyager - Ok Janeway sucked as a captain and someone should've killed Neelix but otherwise I thought it was quite fun. Nice effects and ideas.
DS9 - Can't comment too much as I've mostly avoided watching it. It's too much like a soap! I mean they're stuck on a space station, they can't move anywhere, how much scope does that give for excitement? *Yawn*
Enterprise - Hah! Don't make me laugh! Just the cheesy theme tune is enough to make me wanna kill myself by smashing my TV over my head. Captain Sam Beckett lmao yeah right. Also as it's supposed to be set before TOS I think they should've made the equipment look a lot more retro that would be cool. Some of it looks more hi-tech than the stuff on TNG or Voyager FFS. It's just so disconnected from the Trek universe, it might've worked if they released it as a totally different show - i.e. not Trek.
At the risk of going OT, could someone explain, for the benefit of us backwards Brits, exactly how syndication works and why it stops things getting DVD/video releases?
The omissions are odd because, remember, Roddenberry was incredibly enlightened by 1960's standards even to cast Nichelle Nichols (whom, yes, he was reportedly dating at the time), let alone to broadcast TV's first interracial kiss. Perhaps he just didn't evolve much. At the time I think it had been just a year since the Supreme Court struck down anti-miscegenation laws in 15 states. Like the other team-of-5 actors Nichols wasn't given much to do, but neither was she singled out. She relates that she was tempted to quit the show out of frustration, but was persuaded to stay partly by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., who told her Star Trek was one of the few TV shows he would let his children watch.
As for American Indians, well that's a little tough. I'm not one myself, but I sometimes questioned whether Chakotay and his religion were entirely flattering portrayal. At least, I wanted to jump out a window when Wesley went on his viscion quest.
Off-screen, by all accounts, Stewart has the best non-virtual personaility. (Avery Brooks might be the most intense.) I came across dozens of anecdotes of people happening upon Stewart -- and he must be one of the most recognizable characters -- and his being the perfect gentleman. This was a guestbook entry, mostly
about Shatner
On the other hand, should Stewart be forgiven for participating in "Lifeforce"? The jury's out.
- TOS (Original) -- OK, maybe my age is showing here; TNG did not exist until I was in high school. The thing about TOS, as opposed to TNG, is that just about every episode is watchable as a re-run.
- TNG -- The special effects were a lot better (but surprisingly 80s looking when I started watching the re-runs on TNN); however there were a number of episodes which I find unwatchable as reruns.
- DS9 -- I've only watch a couple of episodes (we lost our cable subscription right after this show debuted), so I never really formed an opinion. I always felt that staying put limited the plot possibilities.
- TAS (Animated) -- The forgotten child of the Trek franchise. This show had many ideas which were not possible in a non-animated show at the time. For one, it introduced the holodeck. For another, real alien crewmembers. Also, this has William Shatner saying "Beam me up Scotty", which TOS didn't have.
- Enterprise -- I've only watched one episode and a bit of a second episode (have better things to do than watch TV these days); seems somewhat boring and I can't stand the theme music. Then again, it is more mature than Voyager.
- Voyager -- This show always reminded me of a saturday morning non-cartoon show. I didn't wantch much of the last seasons; however what I have watched wasn't terribly profound. Then again, maybe I had outgrown the whole Star Trek thing by the time this was on the air.
As recently as two years ago, I found watching an episode of TNG which I never watched before exciting. Now, I do not; they suddenly started looking really cheesy.That said, this was a saturday morning cartoon.
I still enjoy watching TOS re-runs from time to time; I think TOS' re-watch value is that Gene really did try to sneak in some social commentary which would have been censored if it were not a science fiction show. Star Trek was the only show in the 1960s which could have gotten away with an interracial kiss; it was also the of the very few TV shows which showed an Afro-american accomplishing something meaningful.
In fact, when Nichelle Nichols (Uhura) was thinking of quitting Star Trek, no one less than Dr. Martin Luther King himself urged her to stay on the show. Other racial groups were also represented on the show (E.G. Sulu).
In addition, TOS had war and historical commentaries which would not have been possible with a format besides science fiction.
A lot of kids here on Slashdot can't see past the dated special effects when watching TOS. A real shame, since what TOS has to say is often far more important than how they were able to say it. If kids these days could have a little more imagination, they would see that TOS was and still is a truly revolutionary TV show.
Good point! An upside to cloning.
The errant Weyoun may have been #6. Was it Weyoun-7 whose neck Worf casually snapped for making a smartass remark -- giving dour Dumar a rare joke opening? Maybe it was Weyoun-7 who kept getting on the Founder's nerves so much she threatened to have him executed? I wonder whether he really was a limited edition. Weyoun made the Breen seem "warm" by contrast.
Weyoun was like the little dogs in "A Fish Called Wanda."
In its own way DS9 had the best (dark) sense of humor. And some of the fans, too -- one evidently thought Weyoun attractive. Ewwwww. I think/hope Vortas were way beyond mating.
that its a crap show, moving far away from Roddeberrys ideals. All that religious nonsense for starters.
There's a real story - beginning, middle, and end. It spreads over the full 5 seasons.
Actually, the story was spread out over four seasons, owing to the fact that Straczynski wasn't certain a fifth season would be paid for until about four episodes before the end of the fourth. The fifth season connects with the other four, and carries on the plotlines developed there, but it also feels tacked-on and epilogous (?) because, essentially, it is.
Sure, their special effects budget wasn't as rich as $T.
JMS was proud to inform fans that in every single season, B5 came in under budget due to the heavy use of computer-gemerated graphics instead of the models "Star Trek" and its ilk were dependent upon. I'd say he very effectively did more with less.
s/Root Beer/Coca Cola/g
s/Federation/United States/g
Now, I know that this was a comparison which was always supposed to be obvious, but DS9 had an interesting way of underscoring the obvious (to me, at least). It seemed a very deliberate act, but with the exception of "Admiral Ross", almost none of the primary characters were anglo/caucasian. Now, I know that in the enlighteneded late 20th (when these were filmed)/ early 21st century, that these things aren't supposed to matter, but it does: it helped make the familiar alien, and the alien familiar.
I have to say that I, too, found myself identifying a little too much with the John LeCarre-ish Garak; and not as much as I would have imagined with the (often unintentionally, and always with the best of intentions) imperialist Federation. It helps me, even today, to understand why the rest of the world isn't with us (that is, U.S.) on something as elementary as, say, fighting the terrorists, or freeing Iraq. But that, as they say, is another post.
These DVD sets of entire TV seasons is such an incredible idea. And I'm glad to see DS9 coming out right after TNG; hopefully, Voyager will follow suit. Here are the complete TV series I would like to see released in DVD sets (just wish I could afford these mammoth releases!): Babylon 5 (including the movies and few Crusade episodes), Outer Limits (the modern run), Highlander (including the short-run female series), Airwolf, Knight Rider (including the reunion stuff), A-Team, Street Hawk, MANTIS, X-Files and Millenium, and both of Sci-Fi Channel's Invincible Man and Farscape. And what was the name of that series that used to air after the Outer Limits on Fox several years ago? What is called the Prophecy? How about some cop series to, like CHiPs, TJ Hooker, Hunter (and what was the name of Fred Dryer's spin-off series on UPN?), Law & Order, and of course, Silk Stalkings (damn that female cop was a hottie!). Babylon 5's first season DVD set was available at Costco. So was the 7-episode Carl Sagan series. My So-Called Life just came out on DVD, too; and I have hated Claire Danes in everyting after that excellent MTV series. MTV's Undressed would be another great DVD idea. Damn, I wish I won the lotto and could vegge on this stuff all day!!!
While the engineer developed his thesis, the director leaned over to
his assistant and whispered, "Did you ever hear of why the sea is salt?"
"Why the sea is salt?" whispered back the assistant. "What do you
mean?"
The director continued: "When I was a little kid, I heard the story of
`Why the sea is salt' many times, but I never thought it important until just
a moment ago. It's something like this: Formerly the sea was fresh water and
salt was rare and expensive. A miller received from a wizard a wonderful
machine that just ground salt out of itself all day long. At first the miller
thought himself the most fortunate man in the world, but soon all the villages
had salt to last them for centuries and still the machine kept on grinding
more salt. The miller had to move out of his house, he had to move off his
acres. At last he determined that he would sink the machine in the sea and
be rid of it. But the mill ground so fast that boat and miller and machine
were sunk together, and down below, the mill still went on grinding and that's
why the sea is salt."
"I don't get you," said the assistant.
-- Guy Endore, "Men of Iron"
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