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Hark! I Hear a Dropped Packet!

aarondsouza writes "The New Scientist has an article about Chris Chafe, a cellist and director of the Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics at Stanford University in California, who has the idea that one can use sound as an audible measure of the health of an internet connection. By sending a bunch of sound pulses across the line and measuring echo time, an average ping time of 10ms would be heard as a 100Hz tone. The idea is that the human ear is much more sensitive to variations in pitch, and thus "listening" to the connection would be a better indicator of its health. The article is short on technical specs but the project page (SoundWIRE) has more."

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  1. Dupe? by jptxs · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/28/123820 9&mode=thread&tid=95

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    1. Re:Dupe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      How about some sort of tone that lets us know the level of duping on slashdot? Then the idiotors^H^H^H^H^H^H^Heditors would be able to tell how many reposts there currently are, and be able to judge appropriately how many more dupes to post.

    2. Re:Dupe? by Tomble · · Score: 3, Informative
      Yeah. At first it sounded like it was a different story with a very coincidentally similar idea, but then looking again, I realised that no, they even seem to be referring to exactly the same article in New Scientist!

      It's one thing when you see a story that had run maybe a few weeks earlier, but earlier on the same day? Ouch.

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    3. Re:Dupe? by brunson · · Score: 1

      Yes, but unlike the previous poster, this slashdotter appears to have RTFA.

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    4. Re:Dupe? by Hater's+Leaving,+The · · Score: 1

      Oh man - it's still on the front page too (with my settings).

      I thought I'd been drinking too much and had double vision!

      THL.

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    5. Re:Dupe? by The+FooMiester · · Score: 1

      That won't work, because of slashdot's stupid practice of linking to every single word in an article that can be linked to. Even if it's only cnn or yahoo, they'll put a bloody link there.

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  2. What is this?! A Jerry Lewis Dupe-a-Thon? by Snarfvs+Maximvs · · Score: 2, Redundant

    What is this?! A Jerry Lewis Dupe-a-Thon?

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  3. Re:Typical industry practices by esper_child · · Score: 2, Funny

    atleast wait until it leaves the front page before reprinting the same story

  4. dupe! by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 4, Insightful
    What is this, the fourth dupe in the last week?

    The original is still on the homepage! http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/28/123820 9&mode=flat&tid=95

  5. Didn't I see this before? by dj28 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Oh, yea. Right HERE on the FRONT PAGE.

    1. Re:Didn't I see this before? by FattMattP · · Score: 1, Redundant

      Jesus, this is the FOURTH dupe today alone.

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  6. May Be Dupe by monthos · · Score: 1

    but at least this story gives me more information before i click on any supplied links, the other one was horrible vaigue.

  7. A Funny Related Story by Doctor+Sbaitso · · Score: 2, Funny
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    1. Re:A Funny Related Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hemos did something like this 5 hours ago...

  8. Hemos and Tim need to talk by Mirell · · Score: 1
    Apparently timothy doesn't check here which is even still on the front page. And it even has been verified as a dupe. Go figure.

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  9. In soviet russia by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 2, Funny

    we only have enough money to run a story once a day.... seriously, is there something wrong with the slashcode or a virus or something? These dupes are getting out of hand here...

    1. Re:IN SOVIET RUSSIA by Qrlx · · Score: 1

      Well, I think they're supposed to be a reference to Yakov Smirnov, a semi-funny comedian that was popular under Reagan. He would make jokes like "I just moved to new apartment and had to get telephone. The man showed up at my door and installed it for me. Where I come from, we also have people who install telephone in your house. We call them K.G.B." The "In Russia" jokes are in a similar vein -- "In America, you watch government on C-SPAN. In Russia, Government watches you!"

      (Note: actual jokes are funny. Mine aren't really funny. Plus I don't know how to HTML-ize a really thick russian accent. Plan accordingly)

      If I'm wrong about this, I'd love to know it. Why this meme has caught on again is beyond me. Mabye classic humor like this just won't die. Or maybe it's just popular cuz eminem rapped about it, or it's because of something that happened on TV in the past few years.

  10. What the hell by Phantasmagoria · · Score: 1

    Another dupe in mere hours? They are in the same Slashdot page for crying out loud! :-)

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  11. What else were you planning to hear...? by redhairedneo · · Score: 2, Funny

    "....sound as an audible measure..."

    What other options do we have as an audible measure? Hmmm?

    1. Re:What else were you planning to hear...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The human ear (and the corresponding piece of driver code in the brain) is very sensitive to regularities and irregularities in sounds. If you convert something to sound and get used to it, you can very easily spot how it "sounds wrong" when something changes

      Seismographists used to convert earthquake vibration patterns to human-audible sounds; this way it became very easy for a trained ear to distinguish between natural quakes and Soviet nuclear tests. On a screen, both looked like a jumble of lines.

      Of course, a clever piece of software can do this too - but you already have this clever piece of software installed for free in your brain.
      (Unfortunately it is free-beer, as the source is not available. Hmmmm, I guess rms should target God as the largest producer of closed-source software in the Universe?)

  12. I have tried this and... by Rogs · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...my ping time is so high only my dog can hear it.

  13. Fingernails, cream cheese, and gravy. by dagg · · Score: 1
    Another dupe. Here are some funny sentences to pass the time. These cannot be beat:
    • I filled my cereal bowl with fingernails.
    • Cream cheese should not be rectangular. It should be pointy.
    • I've got gravy on my pants.
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    1. Re:Fingernails, cream cheese, and gravy. by helix400 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Hey, what a great idea!

      We should start a tradition on slashdot where we only post stupid sentences for dupe stories. Here's mine:

      • You know, a flaming sqiurrel just isn't romantic.
      • Speaking of Christmas, I do enjoy Half-Life.
      • I saw a cow in a tree knitting steaks.

    2. Re:Fingernails, cream cheese, and gravy. by jenssoderberg · · Score: 1

      Well in that case i shall have to anounce that "-My hoovercraft is full of eels"

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  14. The human ear by recursiv · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The human ear (and the corresponding piece of driver code in the brain) is very sensitive to regularities and irregularities in sounds. If you convert something to sound and get used to it, you can very easily spot how it "sounds wrong" when something changes.

    Seismographists used to convert earthquake vibration patterns to human-audible sounds; this way it became very easy for a trained ear to distinguish between natural quakes and Soviet nuclear tests. On a screen, both looked like a jumble of lines.

    Of course, a clever piece of software can do this too - but you already have this clever piece of software installed for free in your brain.
    (Unfortunately it is free-beer, as the source is not available. Hmmmm, I guess rms should target God as the largest producer of closed-source software in the Universe?)

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    1. Re:The human ear by mrseigen · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hmmmm, I guess rms should target God as the largest producer of closed-source software in the Universe?)

      We've done a good job of reverse-engineering it for the most part; hopefully He doesn't slap the human race with a DMCA lawsuit.

    2. Re:The human ear by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 4, Funny

      Unfortunately it is free-beer, as the source is not available. Hmmmm, I guess rms should target God as the largest producer of closed-source software in the Universe?

      As much as I hate RMS, I have to say that he works pretty much the same way God does; compare, for example, the source code to Emacs with the human genetic code. Both are available to anybody who wants to look at them, both are vast, and both are completely incomprehensible without doing a huge amount of analysis, deduction, and plain old guessing.

      Maybe RMS is on to something after all. Release the source, but make sure before you do that it's utterly useless to anybody but yourself. After all, if the code were well documented and easy to understand, there'd be no need for the author of it.

      (Hmm. If the world were well documented and easy to understand, there'd be no need for God. Uh-oh. Dangerously close to being profound here. Better bail out while there's still time.)

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    3. Re:The human ear by MattCohn.com · · Score: 1

      Dupe.

      Come ON. Well, I guess if the editors can do it... why not you...

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=46328&cid=4774 658

      Funny Idea, though. Got you some Karma I see it did.

    4. Re:The human ear by Trane+Francks · · Score: 1
      The human ear (and the corresponding piece of driver code in the brain) is very sensitive to regularities and irregularities in sounds.
      Excellent post. A /.-ready example of this would be listening to a modem handshake. Once familiar with the sound of a normal sequence, you just know immediately when things aren't right.
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    5. Re:The human ear by cyt0plas · · Score: 1

      > (Unfortunately it is free-beer, as the source is not available. Hmmmm, I guess rms should target God as the largest producer of closed-source software in the Universe?)

      If the source _were_ opened, what would you use to compile it? I'd also really like to look at the INSTALL file :)

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    6. Re:The human ear by Banjonardo · · Score: 1, Troll
      profoundness profoundity? alert!

      Wait, so if we found the answers to our questions within ourselves, we wouldn't really NEED God? We would have become so advanced to, in fact, KILL God? So us that have realized there's no need for God, we could call ourselves... I know! "Free Spirits." That sounds good. So our philosophy is that there's no God, no rhyme or reason, we just kind of exist. How interesting!

      Nice to meetcha/I'm Friedrich Nitzsche.

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    7. Re:The human ear by blancolioni · · Score: 2

      Where have I read this comment before? Oh, right, here.

      Word for word. Do you reckon karma gets you laid or what?

    8. Re:The human ear by Atrahasis · · Score: 1

      We (I and a group of friends) once got some very strange looks from a teacher at our school as we sat around a computer which was dialling out, and we were discussing the differences between the handshake on the school computer and our computers at home.

    9. Re:The human ear by pkplex · · Score: 1

      It prolly would not be too tricky to write some routines into ping, which, based on packet loss percentage, threw some stuff at /dev/dsp to get your tones.

    10. Re:The human ear by Jimmy_B · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Plaguarism for karma is extremely dishonest. You didn't change a single word of YE's post on the previous version of this story. Looking at your posting history, this would seem to be a new low for you.

    11. Re:The human ear by FurryFeet · · Score: 2

      So, are you saying God obfuscated the world's code to insure those support contracts? Makes sense. Seems to have worked too, look at all religions and stuff.
      The big revelation here is, God is a computer geek.
      No wonder the world is buggy. Bet it's written in C++.

    12. Re:The human ear by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

      Emacs is hardly incomprehensible. It's broken into small packages, each of which can be pretty easily understood and extended.

    13. Re:The human ear by recursiv · · Score: 1

      Nope. I'm pretty sure karma doesn't get me laid, but it's a fun diversion at work or whenever to try to trick people into giving me karma. Sometimes it works. Sometimes not. And not all the karma I've gotten is "dishonestly" obtained.

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  15. Thanksgiving day turkey! by Cubeman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashdot has bowled three strikes today...err duplicates:

    1. Duplicate Original

    2. Duplicate Original

    3. Duplicate Original Happy turkey slashdot!

    1. Re:Thanksgiving day turkey! by Col.+Klink+(retired) · · Score: 5, Informative
      You missed a few:

      4. Duplicate Original

      5. Duplicate Original

      6. Duplicate Original

      (PS, this list is a duplicate.)

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    2. Re:Thanksgiving day turkey! by Permission+Denied · · Score: 3, Funny
      Slashdot has bowled three strikes today...err duplicates

      Must be the tryptophan.

      Is it just a coincidence that the "busiest shopping day of the year" follows directly after the country ingests large amounts of a sedative? I smell a conspiracy.

    3. Re:Thanksgiving day turkey! by lommer · · Score: 2

      Is this a record for /. ? Or can someone point to a day when there were more dupes? Just curious...

    4. Re:Thanksgiving day turkey! by anshil · · Score: 2

      And so what!

      I don't remember having duplicates is anything. Read some serious newspapers.and you will notice they duplicate news as well, everytime maybe a bit from another view point, maybe a bit another focus, but the news is duplicated, do I want it? Yes, I want to see an important event from different views, different focuses as events propergate.

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    5. Re:Thanksgiving day turkey! by Raphael · · Score: 2
      Read some serious newspapers.and you will notice they duplicate news as well, everytime maybe a bit from another view point, maybe a bit another focus, but the news is duplicated [...]

      When several articles in the same newspaper talk about the same thing, you get to read different articles that have been written by one or several authors. There is some new information in each of these articles.

      However, this is not the case when duplicate stories are posted here: there is not much information in the Slashdot story. Most of the time, is it only a link to the relevant article published on some other site. When two stories point to the same article, then the duplicates do not give you anything new.

      So having two different articles about the same thing is not a problem because you can enjoy reading each article separately. But having two stories (two short paragraphs) on Slashdot pointing to exactly the same article is a waste of time and resources. And it feeds the trolls...

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    6. Re:Thanksgiving day turkey! by Dirtside · · Score: 2

      The day after Thanksgiving is not the busiest shopping day of the year. The fact that you put that phrase in quotes indicate that you might know that already, but others reading it might not. :)

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  16. Re:What is this?! A Jerry Lewis Dupe-a-Thon? by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 2

    Damn it, the signal to noise ratios in the discussions are low enough. Is this infesting the front page now?

  17. What? by nihilist_1137 · · Score: 1

    Are the editors dropping packets?

  18. Today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's GROOOUNDHOG DAAAY

    enjoy the trip

    trips

    tripping

  19. /. needs a system like this... by Mitchell+Mebane · · Score: 2, Funny

    Methinks Slashdot needs a system to audibly alert the editors when they are about to post a dupe. The closer together, the higher the noise. And if the original is still on the main page, it plays a very load klaxon.

    :D

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  20. This is getting sadder by the day by Rushmore · · Score: 1

    This story is still on the front page and it's being duped. At least wait a couple of days so some people will forget they read it.

    It's sad that Slashdot is coming to this.

  21. IN SOVIET RUSSIA by D+iz+a+n+k+Meister · · Score: 1

    timothy posts as Hemos

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  22. Thanksgiving Tradition? by starburst · · Score: 5, Funny

    I get it, on April 1st all the stories are false; On Thanksgiving the stories are dupes.

    Does consuming gigantic quantities of turkey and dressing cause this -- I demand a study.

  23. Maybe ... by bizitch · · Score: 1

    Timothy just doesn't read Slashdot anymore ...

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  24. Does this mean... by InspectorPraline · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...sysadmins will begin carrying metronomes and tuners?

    "I'm sorry, but your NIC seems to be running a quarter-step sharp."

    *hides*

    1. Re:Does this mean... by Doctor+Sbaitso · · Score: 1

      Since they already have mobile phone concerts, I'm guessing it won't be long until we start seeing NIC orchestras...

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  25. hhuuhh?? by C0D3X · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't see any dupes. wtf are you talking about?

    --C0D3X

    I don't see any dupes. wtf are you talking about?

    --C0D3X

    I don't see any dupes. wtf are you talking about?

    --C0D3X

    I don't see any dupes. wtf are you talking about?

    --C0D3X

    I don't see any dupes. wtf are you talking about?

    --C0D3X

  26. Very clever way... by HoldmyCauls · · Score: 1

    to give a story a better headline. This one's much more clever. ; )

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  27. Re:there's still time by Rushmore · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How's he going to know it's a dupe to delete it? He obviously isn't reading the front page so why bother reading the comments? Sad but true.

  28. Repeat... by Sharth · · Score: 1

    The same article is on the front page for god's sake...

  29. In the Emergency Room by $carab · · Score: 1, Redundant

    DOCTOR SPENCER: Yes. More apparatus, please, nurse: the E.E.G., the B.P. monitor, and the A.V.V.

    NURSE: Yes. Certainly, Doctor.

    DOCTOR SPENCER: And, uh, get the machine that goes 'ping'.

  30. Hat trick by kzinti · · Score: 2

    It's the third today... and the day ain't over yet.

    1. Re:Hat trick by coryboehne · · Score: 2

      You must have worked in the car business... Nice to know....

    2. Re:Hat trick by kzinti · · Score: 1

      Huh? Car business? You've really lost me there, man. "Hat trick" is from hockey - three goals in a game, and "Day ain't over..." is from one of those dumb Billy Crystal movies (and countless real cowpoke types). Where in that do you get "Car business"? Clue me in, dude...

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    3. Re:Hat trick by mobets · · Score: 1

      No, it's from football (aka soccer). Three goals in a game.

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    4. Re:Hat trick by coryboehne · · Score: 1

      n/m... I'm sure you can figure out what it means... I thought it was a car-business-centric thing... I didn't realize it came from sports (then again, I don't watch sports at all..)

    5. Re:Hat trick by i+chose+quality · · Score: 1

      No, it's from Darts (the pointy thingies). Three Bull's Eyes in a row.

      You see...

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  31. The Secret.... by ebob · · Score: 2, Funny

    To getting a story posted on /. Pick one and send it in again!

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    1. Re:The Secret.... by ylikone · · Score: 1

      But don't forget to change the title so it isn't immediately an obvious dupe... gives you time to run away.

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  32. Ratio by McCarrum · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lets look at ratios. Three dupes from slashdot, thirteen thousand, four hundred and twelve dupes from idiots bitching about slashdot duping. It's hard to bitch about duping AND be taken seriously, when the bitch is a dupe. Atleast the stories are more interesting ...

    1. Re:Ratio by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 1, Flamebait
      I think what pisses me off about the dupes is just that they show the editors don't give a shit when they do their job. If they did, they'd at least be able to check the links and their own homepage...

      I don't mind lazy workers when they take money from 'Da Man, but these jerks are wasting resources that should be going into Sourceforge and other admirable VA projects. They drone on about Free Market this-and-that, but if VA agreed with their sentiments, they'd be fired immediately and replaced by people who take their job seriously. I mean, Jesus, how hard it is to be a /. editor?

  33. Mirror by PDHoss · · Score: 3, Funny

    In case this gets Slashdotted...

    Mirror

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    1. Re:Mirror by gl4ss · · Score: 2

      LOL LOL LOL.

      this thread has turned into a real dupe o rama.

      seriously though, the bars in the sourceforge banner ad kinda look like vu bars, going up an down. does this mean the new sourceforge real-time metrics reporting system is audible too..

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  34. Re:Do I even need to say it? by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 2
    I think it's about time slashdot switched to a Kuro5hin type submittion. I have never seen dup once. And spelling and grammer errors are a lot less common. Or atlease a hybrid of the two.

    Maybe we could send the editors one of these ;)

  35. Repeat, Repeat, Repeat, Repeat, Repeat, Repeat by quakeroatz · · Score: 1

    Hey Taco! Guess what?

    The site is about as professional as a 12 year old making a clan site using frontpage.

    I'm off to Newsforge.

  36. Wrong time of year? by athlon02 · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry, is it April 1st already? I can watch a gui or cli and get an idea of what's going on just fine. Perhaps for some this is a good idea, but for most people it seems pointless to me.

  37. Homestar Runner by kilonad · · Score: 3, Funny

    I nominate Homestar Runner as new slashdot editor-in-chief. Admit it, he'd do at least as good of a job. And I don't care if he's animated and not real!

  38. What gives? by pla · · Score: 3

    First the Onion, now Slashdot?

    Have the collective editors of online content decided to play "lets see who really pays attention" this week?

    C'mon. Enough.

  39. AAAAHAHAHAHAHHHHH!!!!! by Valar · · Score: 2

    salkfalkjsgdfklasdfljkasdljfasjldglhjsagjlkafsghll sdafhlkashlgkasljkglahksgljkasflg;ajlksgkjlsfagjkl asfglh!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Make it stop!!

  40. snoop -a by otis+wildflower · · Score: 1

    on a solaris system do a man on snoop.. or just use docs.sun.com if you don't have a solaris box handy..

  41. Oh Dear... by dirkdidit · · Score: 1

    I think I may have eaten too much turkey for I am seeing doubles, especially on Slashdot.

  42. You get what you pay for by normandr · · Score: 1

    in life.

  43. Used in Nuclear Facilities by jfroot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember reading about something similar a few years ago. Basically they took all the different readings from a nuclear reactor control room and extrapolated a tone from them somehow. If any of the readings went outside of nominal the done would sound much different. Because the human ear is sensitive to this, the operators would know something is amiss.

    1. Re:Used in Nuclear Facilities by slaida1 · · Score: 1
      If any of the readings went outside of nominal the done would sound much different.

      Like an alarm sound, perhaps?

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    2. Re:Used in Nuclear Facilities by Sirch · · Score: 2
      I remember reading about something similar a few years ago
      I remember reading about something similar a few hours ago.
  44. As someone who did this 13 years ago... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Yawn!

    While I did find it an interesting tool, it wasn't very useful at all. After several minutes of listening to tones, you will get tired of it. I found it more useful to vary the amplitude rather than the frequency. I set the amplitude to zero for the normal expected latency. Then when a small problem started, you'd get a slight sound. As it got worse, it got louder. That was much more useful for constant monitoring.z

  45. My 2 (sic) cents by TeknoHog · · Score: 5, Funny
    PING slashdot.org (66.35.250.150) from 127.0.0.1 : 56(84) bytes of data.
    64 bytes from slashdot.org (66.35.250.150): icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=144 usec
    64 bytes from slashdot.org (66.35.250.150): icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=144 usec (DUP!)
    64 bytes from slashdot.org (66.35.250.150): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=133 usec
    64 bytes from slashdot.org (66.35.250.150): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=133 usec (DUP!)
    64 bytes from slashdot.org (66.35.250.150): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=134 usec
    64 bytes from slashdot.org (66.35.250.150): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=134 usec (DUP!)

    PP..SS.. DDoonn''tt ffoorrggeett ttoo ttuurrnn oonn llooccaall eecchhoo!!

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    1. Re:My 2 (sic) cents by anshil · · Score: 2

      This is the Nth duplicated post about duplicating stories on slashdot.

      So what is now BAD on duplicating stories? What, I duplicate myself, in all newspapers you will encounter duplicate stories as well. So what?

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    2. Re:My 2 (sic) cents by elvum · · Score: 2

      That's the second time you've made that comment.

    3. Re:My 2 (sic) cents by anshil · · Score: 1

      I think you just don't get it, so I've repeated myself, AND????????????

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    4. Re:My 2 (sic) cents by elvum · · Score: 1

      That was a joke. (Hint: that thread was about duplication.)

  46. I know we're joking about the dupes, but... by Anthony+Boyd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...this is really, really, sloppy work. I'm bored of this. Can I get the URLs of some other geek-friendly news/info sites? Ones that have a bit more QA?

    1. Re:I know we're joking about the dupes, but... by silvaran · · Score: 2

      Check at the -1 level... something about a goat, I think...

    2. Re:I know we're joking about the dupes, but... by costas · · Score: 2

      Try memigo. It's run by code; no human editors to mess things up. Also, memigo will attach the first (and *only* the first) Slashdot discussion to each link. Most of the time, memigo scoops /. anyway (but the /. discussion will appear there when it gets posted here).

    3. Re:I know we're joking about the dupes, but... by anshil · · Score: 2

      And I'm really really tired of the duplicate stories whines, I click read comments to read some interesting comments, and what is all I get? Whining about story duplicates scored at 5. I don't care about duplicate stories!!!!!!!!!

      --

      --
      Karma 50, and all I got was this lousy T-Shirt.
    4. Re:I know we're joking about the dupes, but... by Rogerborg · · Score: 2

      www.kuro5hin.org

      All stories are user submitted, user edited, and user voted on. Even the site owner has to go through voting to get meta stories accepted. All users can moderate all comments all the time.

      And yes, it does scale.

      --
      If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
    5. Re:I know we're joking about the dupes, but... by halo8 · · Score: 1

      I work help desk.. and its soooo borring telling end users to put there coffe tray back in the drive and to do a defrag so that aol will connect better.
      here are the sites i check on an hourly bassis

      www.cnn.com [american news]
      www.slashdot.com [duplicate IT news]
      www.theregister.co.uk [more IT news]
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi.html [world news]

      Daily
      www.kuro5hin.org/ [political thinking and stuff]
      cagle.slate.msn.com/politicalcartoons/ [funny]

      Weekly
      www.anandtech.com [awsome hardware reviews]
      www.tomshardware.com [awsome hardware reviews]
      www.comics.com [funny]

      oh.. yes.. and of course
      hrdc-drhc.gc.ca
      wich i check on a minute by minute basis

      --
      The More Knowledge you have the Luckier you Get- J.R. Ewing
    6. Re:I know we're joking about the dupes, but... by p3d0 · · Score: 1

      Note: the parent comment is a dupe of this one.

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      Patrick Doyle
      I mod down every jackass who puts his moderation policy in his sig. Oh, wait a sec....
  47. Re:What is this?! A Jerry Lewis Dupe-a-Thon? by deander2 · · Score: 2


    It strunk me as ironic that, in a comment complaining about dupes, the same text is echoed in the title and the body. ;-)

  48. Obligatory dupe comment by TeknoHog · · Score: 4, Funny
    > Of course, a clever piece of software can do this too - but you already have this clever piece of software installed for free in your brain.

    Not everyone has clever software in their brain. I'm still doing a Search for Terrestrial Intelligence. But maybe /. isn't the place for it.

    But at least I try and double-check the data.

    --
    Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
  49. Tripes by helix400 · · Score: 4, Funny
    Are 3 dupes in a day worse than 1 tripe?

    The quark matter/stranglets hitting earth story was covered on May 12, Nov 22, and Nov 25

    1. Re:Tripes by scoove · · Score: 2

      Are 3 dupes in a day worse than 1 tripe?

      Yea, and if you read drudgereport.com and the Register, you'll find that another 1/3 of Slashdot posts are copied with little creative discovery.

      CmdrTaco may claim that most slashdot readers only come in for the headlines and the discussion value is minimal, but for his sake per the total lack of effort in finding Slashdot stories, I pray he's wrong...

      *scoove*

  50. Play nice. by chenzhen · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd be real impressed if one of you could effectively argue how a duplicate story has so injustly wronged you so as to demand this sort of wanton, sociopathic outrage. What's more ridiculous than a few duplicate stories is a bunch of duplicate children screaming at mommy for serving the same lunchtime sandwich two days in a row. I'm sure you all work hard and are model citizens in need of fresh news quarter-hourly, but if you don't have anything worthwhile to say, then be a man and shut it.

    Patrick

    1. Re:Play nice. by billd · · Score: 2

      How right you are. I'm glad they don't complain to the same degree about DUPLICATE COMMENTS cos this thread is just about 99% whinging. Pretty Piss Poor Performance. (I'm sorry, this is a bit of a whine also, but at least it has a different target :-)

      --

      -----

      For great justice!

    2. Re:Play nice. by An+Ominous+Coward · · Score: 2

      Yeah, god forbid the paid editors actually do something like editing.

  51. Hark! I hear... by phatStrat · · Score: 1

    ... a duplicate post. And I'm still only on movement 1 of the 24 hour Beethoven symphony extravaganza.

  52. If only we could mod articles down.... by rayd75 · · Score: 1

    This is getting ridiculous. I checked the calendar to make sure that it wasn't April 1st... Nope, its Thanksgiving. (in the US anyway)

  53. So I guess... by Kashif+Shaikh · · Score: 1

    a DoS attack would sound like a bomb, right?

    "Captain, we're hit!"

  54. Link Found to Tomorrow's Slashdot Home Page: by Snork+Asaurus · · Score: 5, Funny
    It's right here

    We don't need no steenking flux capacitor.

    --
    Sigs are bad for your health.
  55. Cold Turkey. by joestar · · Score: 2

    It seems you Slashdot editors definately smoke too much or have fall into the darkside!

    And I don't talk about all this OSNews FUD you relay. Now I bet the next step is to post LinuxGram newsletters to the frontpage.

  56. PING! ... ACK! by Froze · · Score: 2

    luser1: PING!
    PING... Ping... ping...
    luser2: ACK!
    ACK... Ack... ack...

    luser1: Cool, I can hear echo replies on the network now.

    luser2: No, those are just slashdot dupes.

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    -- The morphemes of your disquisition are ascertainable, but they have eschewed an ambit of transpicuous exposition.
  57. This is really bad by pyman · · Score: 1
    Story duplication is really getting out of hand. Do any of the editors actually read slashdot? This issue really should be addressed because it pisses off readers and wastes our time!

    I hate it when this happens:
    1. Click refresh
    2. See new story
    4. Get deja vu feeling
    5. Read comments, dupe confirmed
    6. Disappointed at wasting time on slashdot

    --
    a ^= b; b ^= a; a ^= b;
  58. interesting.... by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 2

    I'm listening to the sound of my laptop connecting to slashdot. I hear these three patterns twice in quick succession. Any ideas?

  59. A system to prevent dupes, a Suggestion. by Syn+Ack · · Score: 1


    As everyone can see there has been quite a bit of dupes on Slashdot stories lately. Perhaps Slashdot needs to have a better system so they prevent dupes. I don't know what's in place now but I wouldn't be surprised if it's a list of submitted stories and it's just approved or not. Perhaps a voting systems among those that can approve stories is required? So once a story is submitted two+ Slashdot admins need to approve the story in order to have it posted. This way stories need more than one set of eyes to make it to the main page.

    My 2 cents Canadian which would be worth around one and a half cents US.

    Cheers,

    Syn Ack.

    1. Re:A system to prevent dupes, a Suggestion. by PinkX · · Score: 1

      Perhaps to check out the links of the posted stories? That would surely eliminate a bunch of dupes (but I don't know how good would it be for tripes :p )

  60. Since this story is pointless (repost) anyways.... by mao+che+minh · · Score: 2

    Let's talk about other things! The ainme series Berserk is awesome, especially the out takes. Who can forget the Whitney Houston song? "I don't really wanna go, very much farther..." And Metroid Prime has to be the best game ever! I am hooked. Seeing as I have the whole of next week off (burning those vacation days before the end of the year), I may actually get my $6 dollars worth out of this Blockbuster rental.

  61. To those who blame them duping stories by jsse · · Score: 1

    at least the stories come back with more creative headlines! :)

  62. How long until some poor sap on a 56k by SensitiveMale · · Score: 2

    trashes his computer because of the fucking siren sound of a bad connection that constantly adjusts?

    waaa-WAAA-waa-WAAA-waaa-WAAA-waaa

  63. Re:What is this?! A Jerry Lewis Dupe-a-Thon? by Alien+Being · · Score: 2

    Turkey hash.

  64. Do the Eds *read* Slashdot? A Thanksgiving rant! by teamhasnoi · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I realize that the holidays are here, on ed is getting married, one is recovering from a fire, and one left. The servers have moved, there are a few new features.

    Great.

    If I did this at my job I would be fired or hollered at.

    Come on already. I love /. I spend too much time reading it as it is. Why must I have duped stories to wade through?

    Moderation and the Friend/Foe system are supposed to make /. easier to read, by filtering out trolls and crapflooders. Perhaps it's time to allow the STORIES to be moderated. I enjoy reading all /. stories, because invaribly, I learn something, or get a new perspective on an issue or idea. Having valuable front page space taken up by something that was already discussed (on the same day!) only annoys the readers and surely affects the advertisers effectiveness.

    I am only a reader and poster of rants and one-liners, sure, but I happen to like /. I hate to see it like this.

    Perhaps I should have assumed there was a lack of attention to the site, when I sent a fixed flag icon to Taco, and never got a response - email or otherwise. I'd guess that Taco gets many emails asking questions, ranting about features, moderations, trolls, and plenty of spam. My note was purely friendly and included the new icon.

    No response. No 'Thanks but no thanks', automated "Yoyre emial iz impotent to us". Nothing

    That's it. Have a good Thanksgiving. Turkey ....taking effect... sleeeeepy...so sleeeepy.... must fall to ... floor....

    *snore*

  65. Hey - since this is a dupe... by mtec · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's fair game for meaningful posts 'eh?

    So - a joke:

    At the Miss World Pageant in Nigeria a girl puts on a skimpy bikini and asks her manager "Does this make me look Fatwa?"

    Laugh. It's funny...

    --
    Cake or Death? Cake Please!
  66. Re:What is this?! A Jerry Lewis Dupe-a-Thon? by addps4cat · · Score: 2, Funny

    it strunk you? What tense is that?

    --
    Don't eat shrimp candy, just a heads up.
  67. Ahh, the good ole days... by suricatta · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I was just a lad, these Slashdot dupe things where a rare occurance. Boy they were a big occasion! Whole families used to go and see them, it was like a day trip. But now, now you see them everywhere! Whereever you look there are Slashdot dupes! You young folk have it easy. You don't need to remember things anymore, because everything you need to know on Slashdot is duplicated without failure every couple of hours!

  68. Re:Sweet, Sweet Jesus by leadfoot · · Score: 1

    Perhaps a trip to your local Psychiatrist is in order? I suggest Valium, stat.

    Dude, this is an online forum, no the be all/end all of the worlds existence. So take a chill pill, i.e. Step away from the computer for a bit. Then eat some turkey. Perhaps you'll feel better after that.

    --
    "We're gonna need a bigger boat"
  69. The new "Alzheimer's" category by K-Man · · Score: 2

    I suspect this is a test. Users who actually read both copies of each story will be exempted from the normal ad rotation, so that the site can maximize its revenue by showing the same banner over and over.

    "Wow, an X-10 camera!" (click)

    "Wow, an X-10 camera!" (click)

    "Looks like Redhat 4 is out already!" (click) ...

    A few hundred repetitions of this, and the money really starts to add up.

    --
    ---- "If we have to go on with these damned quantum jumps, then I'm sorry that I ever got involved" - Erwin Schrodinger
  70. Dupes... by kweg · · Score: 1

    Can't slashdot have code in it that warns story posters if their stories link to the same article as another recent story linked to or somthing? Come on, 3 dupes in 1 day is way too much.

  71. Sound is just feedback by whereiswaldo · · Score: 2


    Sound is just another effective method to provide instant feedback to the user. Use of colour and shapes are also excellent methods.

    I think more software should integrate sound, colour, and shapes as informational cues than they do. Less text to read, and yet instant recognition because of the amazing properties of our brains.

    The best examples I've seen that use these techniques are games which have lots of options and feedback - like simulated war games, etc... The biggest challenge with those games is coming up with an easy to use and intuitive interface. Sound, colour, and shapes play a crucial role in their design.

  72. Re:Do the Eds *read* Slashdot? A Thanksgiving rant by Winterblink · · Score: 1

    Heh, yeah it seems like there was maybe like two articles today that weren't dupes (at least with my current story filters set, which aren't that extensive). Looks like the /. staff all took their retard pills this morning. :)

    --
    "I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."
    -Hoban Washburn
  73. Re:What is this?! A Jerry Lewis Dupe-a-Thon? by dr_dank · · Score: 2

    Oh pretty lady! Don't with the duplicate stories post!

    /Jerry Lewis voice

    --
    Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
  74. Echo... echo... echo... echo... by dmd · · Score: 1
  75. Sounds like Peep by mattdm · · Score: 2

    Sounds like Peep, the Network Auralizer, which I learned about from a Slashdot story from almost a year ago. I haven't looked at this Soundwire project much beyond the links above, but from a quick glance, Peep is a lot further along, a lot more flexible, and wider-reaching.

  76. Hehe, you've got a good point... by Tomble · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Irony is, that in response to this duplicated story, 10 zillion slashdotters have all said pretty much exactly the same thing as each other.

    Yeah, OK, I did too. Still ironic. And yes, for those who like to debate the meaning of Irony (would that subject be Ironology? *), I think that this case does fit the definition pretty damned well.

    *- Yes, yes, I expect it would be Etymology or Didactics or something. And arguing that point might be... somewhat ironic?

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    Be careful! New moon tonight.
  77. Re:Dupe? - Eds need to use search. by draziw · · Score: 1

    Do they know about the search box on the home page? :)

  78. man nc by nakaduct · · Score: 3, Funny

    I, for one, look forward to the advent of ping music. Ludwig van's been rendered on some pretty fancy instuments, none so expensive as an OC-192.

  79. Search? ED'S NEED TO READ THE FUCKING MAIN PAGE! by raehl · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can spot a dupe less than a sentence into the summary - because I actually read the summaries on the main page, and I don't even work here. Is it too much to ask the editors to actually READ THE 10-15 ARTICLE SUMMARIES EACH DAY BEFORE SUBMITTING NEW ARTICLES?

    If this happened with articles that were a month old, or happened once a month or something, it might be exusable, but it's happening at least once a week now, and sometimes multiple times per day. That's a pretty shitty success rate for something so easy as remembering an article that's LESS THAN 5 ARTICLES EARLIER!

    "I wanted to be a /. editor, but I decided against it when they told me I wasn't allowed to read slashdot anymore."

  80. This deserves a song... by cyt0plas · · Score: 1

    (to the tune of "Hark, the Herald Angles Sing!")
    Hark! The herold packets Ring!
    Let's debug the stupid thing
    Packet Loss and Latency
    Assault your being acoustically.

    Calmly, softly as the Styx
    Lets you know the network's fixed.
    Net collisions are no more,
    Duplicate posts are such a bore.
    Net collisions are no more,
    That's all there is, there ain't no more.

    --
    Contact Me (got tired of viruses emailing me).
  81. MOD GRANDPARENT DOWN by MattCohn.com · · Score: 1

    He %cough% STOLE this from the orig of the duped stories!

    1. Re:MOD GRANDPARENT DOWN by LinuxHam · · Score: 2

      not only that, but it was a dupe from 15 posts up! at least the original reposter (Seinfeld? Reposter?) posted AC.

      --
      Intelligent Life on Earth
  82. No fair� by GundyRage · · Score: 1

    ...when I'm redundant, my karma takes a whack. Seems /. should get (Score:-5, Redundant) for their last few posts.

    Hey, I guess we all make mistakes.

    GR

  83. SERIOUSLY.... by MortisUmbra · · Score: 1

    come on people, it's not even off the front fricken page yet!!!! For the love of pete, you KNOW they aren;t checking ANYTHING, at ALL, when news gets duped like this, and its not just this, the damned face transplants article was duped too, same scenario, not even off the front page yet. Good God it's just aggravating to think you either pay for the service or look at the stupid ass ads and SOMEONE is gettingpaid, and SOMEONE is sucking pretty hard lately....

    --

    "The saddest words of mice and men, are not those which were, but should have been."
  84. No Dupes... by Greyfox · · Score: 2

    The tryptophan is making you hallucinate that there are dupes.

    --

    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

  85. dupedupedupedupedupe by circletimessquare · · Score: 2

    i don't think we need a story system like kuro5hin, but howabout this: since we already metamoderate the moderators, why not metamoderate the editors? if the problem is that you can identify the editor who posted the story, well, start hiding the editor's identity on the original story so things don't get stupid and personal.

    hide the story submitter's identity as well. i think the editors can handle the blow to their egos, having their little tags removed from the story post. and as someone who has had 2 stories posted here, i can handle not having my name appear on the story i posted, what do i friggin' care?

    oh boo hoo hoo! i live to see my name on slashdot! lol

    and by the way, in the spirit of slashdot, this post of mine is a dupe, copied verbatim from a previous post just last week... i thought for a second about doing this, but then i don't really want to change things here after all ;-P

    --
    intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
  86. Dupe Detection Code? by cjsnell · · Score: 5, Interesting


    It shouldn't be too hard to add some dupe prevention code to Slash. It seems that you could snag all URLs out of a story and compare them to URLs from the last 60 days or so and if there is a match, present a warning to the editor.

    1. Re:Dupe Detection Code? by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 1

      I had this idea back when I was posting at -1. I'm even willing to make a .patch that does it if the slashdot janitors start taking their job more seriously.

      --
      Pain lasts, kid. Its how you know you're alive. Sometimes I think this growing up thing is just pain management-TheMaxx
    2. Re:Dupe Detection Code? by daffmeister · · Score: 1

      Or the editors could just read their own site. Where are they? Reading kuro5hin?

  87. Doh! by cjsnell · · Score: 4, Funny


    Speaking of dupe detection, I should have checked other comments before I posted. It seems that a nearly identical comment was posted by someone else a few hours earlier. ;-)

    1. Re:Doh! by kasperd · · Score: 1

      other comments

      The difference is that the comment can get moderated redundant. Why can't the resumes on the main page be moderated?

      --

      Do you care about the security of your wireless mouse?
    2. Re:Doh! by cjsnell · · Score: 2


      Good point. JonKatz was redundant before he ever posted a story. :)

    3. Re:Doh! by isorox · · Score: 2

      Sssh, thats how we get high karma, post the last stories +5's!

  88. Personally, I'm all for the Dupe! by rMortyH · · Score: 3, Informative

    This one had better links and stuff,
    like the CCRMA home page.

    WWWeeee! We got ./'d!

    Of course I'm biased 'cuz I WORK there and
    Chris Chafe is an awesome guy and the project
    is super cool...

    'skyooz me while I go watch our webserver get
    CRUSHED!

    Seiously though, the page may be kinda dry, but if you dig you'll find some great stuff. There are links to all the top sound software for Linux and ways to optimize your system for sound and music. Check out

    http://www-ccrma.stanford.edu/guides/planetccrma /

    It's an amazing lab, doing great work and producing some amazing open source sound software, as well as testing and distributing the work of many others in the field. And there isn't a windows box in the entire place!

    =mortimer

    1. Re:Personally, I'm all for the Dupe! by Hank+the+Lion · · Score: 1

      Agree!

      In the reactions to the first post on Slashdot all emphasis was put on the (im)possibility of applications for remote surgery, and I don't find this back in the original website.

      No mention at all was made on the application for musical purposes, and this seems to be what the research is targeted to.

      On the other hand, the second posting on Slashdot only concentrates on the dupe... :-(

  89. Re:Search? ED'S NEED TO READ THE FUCKING MAIN PAGE by Moonshadow · · Score: 5, Funny

    What I really find amusing is that people will take the time to gripe about dupes. After all, those evil editors are taking our precious bandwidth by posting dupes, so we have to make sure we fight the power and complain about it! :P

    Yeah, post complaints! Reload the page a few times! Damn the man!

    I just find it amusing that we get an entire story of posts saying "dupe!" - as if one post wasn't enough. Nope, just in case I decide to start reading comments at the very freaking middle of the page, there will always be someone there to inform me that this story is, in fact, a dupe! I can't imagine what I would do without that valuable info! Thank you, all 400 of you, that felt the need to uniquely point out that I could have read the same article some 5 articles prior! :)

    The above is not intended seriously, for the humor impaired. :D

  90. Enough by BoBaBrain · · Score: 2

    Another Dupe?

    I'm really not trying to bait flame, but IMHO Slashdot has been slipping more and more recently. Yup, I realise it's free, but that doesn't mean it doesn't need standards.

    Anyway, this will be my last post here. If anyone is looking for an /. account with excellent karma, feel free to take over mine.

    Name: BoBaBrain
    Password: password


    Be gentle with it.

    --
    I am a Karma Library.
    1. Re:Enough by BoBaBrain · · Score: 1

      Thanks. It's mine now.

      --
      I am a Karma Library.
    2. Re:Enough by BoBaBrain · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think I'll play with it for a while and then pass it on again. I suppose one could think of it as a 'karma library'

      --
      I am a Karma Library.
  91. obligatory reference by PatoLucas · · Score: 1

    a cellist?
    Did he have to switch to figure this out?

    --
    -uh? -Do you remember your first Dime bar? -uh? -D-i-m-e b-a-r? -uh?
  92. Re:Do the Eds *read* Slashdot? A Thanksgiving rant by costas · · Score: 2

    Try memigo. It's run by code; no human editors to mess things up. Also, memigo will attach the first (and *only* the first) Slashdot discussion to each link. Most of the time, memigo scoops /. anyway (but the /. discussion will appear there when it gets posted here).

  93. Why didn't he by jointm1k · · Score: 1

    invent something to convert ping times to odours? Then with a laggy connection it would actually make sense to say: "My connection stinks."
    --

    --
    You know it makes sense, a little reminder from jointm1k.
  94. You can already do this.. by AnonymousCohort · · Score: 1
    Just keep a shoutcast stream running on xmms. As soon as your connection goes down it stops.

    Great for troubleshooting - as soon as you fix the broken connection the stream comes back up.

  95. I've read it differently by STREMF · · Score: 2, Informative
  96. What's really telling by TheEnglishPatient · · Score: 1

    is that even though this story is obviously a dupe it still gets 135 ( at last count) comments.

    Why don't you all just ignore it? Oops I just ignored my own advice!

    N

  97. Noises from tape drives by Shade,+The · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When I was younger, we used to have a Dragon 32 microcomputer, which loaded up external data through cassette tapes. If I remember correctly, the tape recorder's line out was plugged into a port onto the computer. So to load up a game, you played the tape, which made a whole host of squeakings and gratings. But you could tell, with some practise, when the loading was going well, and when it was going to fail. Kinda like with this article, though in this case, it's with a network.

  98. Trolls... by new_breed · · Score: 1

    Ha! Who would've thought that the trolls would finally bring this place down not by posting crap, but by actually submitting duplicate stories? ;)

  99. Re:Do the Eds *read* Slashdot? A Thanksgiving rant by orkysoft · · Score: 1

    It's too much like Slashdot. For starters, it IS slashdotted...

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    I suffer from attention surplus disorder.
  100. I agree by Rogerborg · · Score: 2

    Lets look at ratios. Three dupes from slashdot, thirteen thousand, four hundred and twelve dupes from idiots bitching about slashdot duping. It's hard to bitch about duping AND be taken seriously, when the bitch is a dupe. Atleast the stories are more interesting ...

    --
    If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
  101. *prod* by tolan-b · · Score: 1

    /me prods cjsnell to write a patch ;)

  102. NEW WORLD RECORD!!! by dark-br · · Score: 1

    Two dupes wile still on the front page??? (Using Sound To Test Internet Connections X Hark! I Hear a Dropped Packet!) and (Face Transplants On The Way X Getting More Face Time)

    Soon the dupes will come out before the original stories :)

  103. Now we're getting really recursive... by Iron+Sun · · Score: 1

    ...Because you're bitching about duplicates of people bitching about duplicates. Other people got there before you.

    Which means that I'm bitching about duplicates of people bitching about duplicates of people bitching about duplicates.

    Or something like that.

  104. Re:Do the Eds *read* Slashdot? A Thanksgiving rant by costas · · Score: 2

    Not quite; its subnet is down... will be back soon...

  105. Time to revolt! by 6Yankee · · Score: 2

    Meanwhile, this gets rejected.

    I've decided that from now on I'm going to submit every story at least three times. I figure that if something that hasn't been on the front page is in the system 3 times, it has 3 times as much chance of making it onto the front page as a dupe. Since we all know when articles have been posted before, and the editors don't, maybe we should all submit everything at least three times. It's a very crude way of reducing the dupes, but it can't be worse than what we have now.

    Of course, then three editors all approve the story at once and we get three consecutive dupes on the front page...

    Hopefully if the eds' workload tripled someone would get off their ass and sort this dupe thing out.

  106. Bad week for the editors? by nurb432 · · Score: 2

    Geesh, this makes it 3 dups in one week on the FRONT page??

    Too much turkey and wine? :)

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  107. ROTF mod parent up! by schweet · · Score: 1

    I would hate to think that anyone had made your observation before, because then I would have to bitch about...ah, forget it.

  108. slashdot should register a new domain by md27 · · Score: 1

    dupes.org, it seems more fitting recently. :-)

  109. Well stands to reason... by Codex+The+Sloth · · Score: 2

    You don't expect the people who "edit" this site to actually read it do you?

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  110. Why This Idea Is Cute But Sort Of Pointless.. by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 1



    Not to sound like a twit, but I thought about this idea myself a few years ago..Even discussed it at some length with a friend of mine, and documented it on the back of a Carl's Jr. placemat.

    Anyway, the idea went something like this:

    You have a daemon that tracks different system conditions.. CPU usage, memory usage, drive fragmentation, DMA contention, network congestion, etc.. You assign each one of these different facets a tone, or even a looping sound sample. A nominal state would be played on-key.. Meaning, if everything in your machine is happy, everything sounds like its in tune, and on-key. Sort of like music. However, if one of those facets begins to diverge in performance, the sound of that particular facet begins to tilt off-key, and sounds terrible. In thoery, you could "hear" a complete overview of your system and know immediately whats wrong the same way a conductor of an orchestra knows which musician is screwing up. :)

    These different facets would be interchangable.. Suppose network congestion doesnt matter to you -- Fine -- exclude it. Add something else if you like, or track only one thing. Not a problem. But here's another interesting idea : Say youre tracking so many things at the same time that you no longer have the ability to discern different sounds from one another. Not a problem -- Just "sample" the stream over time. A "recording" of your systems health would resemble something like the guts of an old Amiga .MOD file. :)

    Anyway, we (my friend and I) decided that while the idea is novel, there really isn't any practical use for it. There are easier ways to visualize what you're looking for in terms of raw data. Besides, funneling system data into sound makes it a little difficult to go _back_ ...Keeping it in raw ASCII ala a log file makes it nice for other tools besides the flesh engine in the chair to use. In other words, cat /proc/kcore >/dev/dsp may be cute, but, there are better ways to get a feel for whats going on. The idea was scrapped.

    But I still have the placemat. :)

    Cheers,

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  111. Used to work for modems by phorm · · Score: 2

    Back in the day, when I was connecting to BBS's on an old 14.4kbps modem, I used to be able to troubleshoot line conditions by sound. By playing with some of the initializating strings, one could set the modem speaker to "always on" even after connect. Doing so allowed me to listen for off-sounding noises, which indicated line degradation.

    Surprisingly, when I was having a sluggish connection, these noises were, in fact, audible. I wouldn't really think of doing this for a high-speed connecting, that's just odd, but it was useful back then - so who knows!

  112. Peep : The Network Auralizer by node3667 · · Score: 1

    Peep is a network monitoring tool that represents network information via audio output. Network diagnosis with Peep is made not only based on singular network events, but on whether the network as a whole "sounds normal."

    http://www.auralizer.com:8080/peep

    This software is quite fun, you can reproduce an
    atmosphere of "rain forest", making the differents
    sounds (birds, rain, animals....) matching events.
    (mail incoming, mail outgoing, http requests...)

  113. Re:Search? ED'S NEED TO READ THE FUCKING MAIN PAGE by Dirtside · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey! Your post is a dupe, too! :)

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  114. Osono is doing something similar by ThrawnXX · · Score: 1

    Check out Listen to your servers and an older one MOOOD::Audio/Visual Monitoring System. Similar concepts, but a more interesting approach.

  115. Backward? by OhioJoe · · Score: 1

    The better thing, instead of giving you a tone during LESS than 10ms ping reply's, would be for the system to create a tone when there is a ping reply of MORE than 10ms (or some set amount). In other words, you only hear a sound when your connection is suffering, not when it is doing good. Further, it could beep with more frequency (one beep per 10ms above 40ms, for example), the worse the conection... i.e., it would 'interrupt' you (depending on your settings) but that is okay, because what you are sending isn't getting through anyway.

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  116. Last Post! by alpg · · Score: 1

    The problem here (as someon else stated) is that when multiple dists
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