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Server In A Fly

Tablespork writes "These guys have implanted the world's smallest webserver-on-a-chip into a dead fly! From the site: "Fly, grants us the ability to virtually possess the body of a dead, preserved fly via web-based technology." There is a webcam monitoring the fly, so you can watch as you blink the LEDs." And don't worry if something goes wrong with it -- "Several pre-programmed and wired flies will be on hand in case of technical malfunction."

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  1. Hmm, an idea... by yjanse · · Score: 2, Funny

    Cool, this might spice up someone geeks sex-life, if they manage to get it into spanish-fly as well!

    (and yes I know it's a beverage...)

    1. Re:Hmm, an idea... by Diabolical · · Score: 5, Informative

      Just a quote i found somewhere on the web:

      "Spanish Fly (pulverized blister-beetles) contains cantharides, which can cause physical arousal of a sort, by irritating the urinary tract when ingested and excreted. But dig this: it was used in the mid-19th century to treat pleurisy. Applied to the skin, it created blisters 12 by 6 inches in size, which (it was erroneously thought) beneficially drew liquid away from the lungs. You want that *inside* your ureter?

      In Victorian England there were several cases of manslaughter or malicious poisoning by means of Spanish Fly. In one, Regina v. Hennah, 1877, in which the victim didn't die, the defendant was acquitted because no intent to harm was proved.

      In more recent times, and more legitimately, the active ingredient in Spanish Fly was used medicinally to dissolve external warts.

      Sources: (1) P.V.Taberner, "Aphrodisiacs: the science and the myth" (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 1985). We don't need no stinkin' ISBNumber; look it up in your library catalog or Books in Print. (2) Encyclopaedia Britannica, 15th ed., source of last resort, s.vv. "aphrodisiac" and "blister beetle". "

      Hope you didn't drink it as a normal beverage by the way, even if you believe in this shit you better had it mixed with something else otherwise you are one lonely geek... even your left and right hand would have nothing to do... :-)

    2. Re:Hmm, an idea... by yjanse · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Nah man, I don't need it. I just added that line to prevent some people of making dumb remarks.

    3. Re:Hmm, an idea... by pherthyl · · Score: 1

      Roald Dahl wrote a book about that actually. Kinda funny. "My Uncle Oswald" I believe it was called. All about them collecting the sperm (so they could later sell it) of all the royalty and famous people by feeding them this blister beetle. Yeah it's one of his stranger books. Definetly not for kids like "The Witches" and such.

  2. Waiter! by valentyn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Waiter! There's a server in my fly!

    (sorry, couldn't resist)

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    1. Re:Waiter! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Waiter: Um, sorry sir, I don't swing that way.

    2. Re:Waiter! by tsa · · Score: 5, Funny

      There's a computer program in my bug!

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      -- Cheers!

    3. Re:Waiter! by infront314 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Normally, flies get caught in webs, but these guys put the web in a fly! Weird.

    4. Re:Waiter! by valentyn · · Score: 1, Funny

      There's a server in my soup! ;-)

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    5. Re:Waiter! by $$$exy+Gwen+Araujo · · Score: 2, Funny

      There's a web-server in the bug -- makes a nice change from Microsoft :)

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      I'm a girl too! See naked chicks in my journal!
    6. Re:Waiter! by iworm · · Score: 2, Funny

      Waiter! There's a bug in my bug! (For those keen on recursion...)

    7. Re:Waiter! by Jondor · · Score: 1

      Nah.. Waiter.. My bug is buggy..

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    8. Re:Waiter! by drsquare · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...tumbleweed quietly rolls past...

    9. Re:Waiter! by pedrofski · · Score: 1

      mmmm has your bug been served sir?

    10. Re:Waiter! by eli173 · · Score: 1

      Why does this make me think of a flight simulator in a spreadsheet? :)

    11. Re:Waiter! by frozenray · · Score: 1

      Waiter! There's an Apache 2.0.44 server in my Musca Domestica!

      (or Drosophila Melanogaster, or whatever they used for the "case modding").

      This is slashdot, home of the Nerds, after all.

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    12. Re:Waiter! by buzzdecafe · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hmmm. Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "Your fly is down."

    13. Re:Waiter! by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      Ohh, is that what my boss ment when he asked if i could build a server on the fly...

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  3. Not very user friendly by peterpi · · Score: 1, Funny
    Check the picture halfway down the page. The viewer has to bend over to look at the fly.

    Why didn't they mount it at head height so you can see it while standing upright?

    1. Re:Not very user friendly by Night0wl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because I can't stand up ;)

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    2. Re:Not very user friendly by billybob2001 · · Score: 1

      That's no "viewer", that's Jeff Goldblum, having his chip "installed".

      He's in the other tank - the one they didn't show you, across the room.

    3. Re:Not very user friendly by GuidoJ · · Score: 1

      > Why didn't they mount it at head height so you can see it while standing upright?

      To give other flies a change for revenge?

    4. Re:Not very user friendly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Tall people can bend down.

      What are short people supposed to do if you mount it high?

    5. Re:Not very user friendly by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

      "The viewer has to bend over to look at the fly. Why didn't they mount it at head height so you can see it while standing upright?"

      Catch the price tag on it? They didn't want to make the customer bend over twice.

    6. Re:Not very user friendly by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 1
      Interesting line to get hot chicks into your work area:

      "Want to see my dead fly? It has a web server in it."

  4. Move it! by phil-trick · · Score: 1

    Now if you could move its legs or its wings, that would be worth posting!

  5. Evil by e8johan · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ahh... First we kill a fly to embedd a webserver in its corpse, then we put it on slashdot and watch the webserver die... My evil plan has been fulfilled!

    1. Re:Evil by ComaltDave · · Score: 1

      "There was a /. 'er
      /. ed a fly
      I don't know why
      he /.ed a fly..."
      ad nauseum

    2. Re:Evil by smithmc · · Score: 1

      Ahh... First we kill a fly to embedd a webserver in its corpse, then we put it on slashdot and watch the webserver die... My evil plan has been fulfilled!

      Simpsons did it! Simpsons did it!

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  6. Technically pointless by esanbock · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's nice. Besides the fact that the chip is small, I see no point in sticking it in a dead fly. In fact, that seems quite pointless and the main focus of the article should be on the tiny chip, not the fact that it happens to be inside a dead fly. That's not impressive whatsever.

    1. Re:Technically pointless by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 4, Informative

      In fact, that seems quite pointless and the main focus of the article should be on the tiny chip

      That has already been done.

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    2. Re:Technically pointless by questamor · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's a lot more elegant than my attempts at dead-web-servers. The smallest I've been able to manage before this was a small dog.

      I did have experiments in the mid 90s with webservers inside dead bodies, but they only led to dismal failures

      (RIP Trevor, my flatmate 1992-1995)

    3. Re:Technically pointless by evilviper · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Clearly you've never seen the movie "The Fifth Element", nor the remote-controlled bug which appears in it.

      On the subject, I find it hilarious (as in stupid) that several hundred years in the future, with such advanced technology, nobody thinks to spring for a $5 attenuation control.

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    4. Re:Technically pointless by silvaran · · Score: 1

      Ever hear measurements like "the length of 3 football fields"? It puts it in perspective. Granted, the picture of the chip next to the fly did it for me, but "a web server in a housefly" is a little more zany (and understandable wrt to size) than a web server in a 10mm x 10mm x 3mm chip (or whatever the dimensions are).

      Why?... well why not?

    5. Re:Technically pointless by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Besides the fact that the chip is small, I see no point in sticking it in a dead fly."

      Putting it on a dead fly is a guaranteed way to find out if the server can handle /.ing. Duh!

    6. Re:Technically pointless by Bertie · · Score: 1

      Got you to read it, though, didn't it? Would you have been as quick to click if the article said "really small webserver-on-a-chip unveiled"?

    7. Re:Technically pointless by GoRK · · Score: 1

      Why would you need it when the headphones automatically spring off of your head when the levels get too high?

    8. Re:Technically pointless by zaqattack911 · · Score: 1

      "Flatmate" ??

      You must be a toothless, mad cow infested, soccer fanatic britt :)

    9. Re:Technically pointless by alecthomas · · Score: 1

      Or an Australian...

    10. Re:Technically pointless by Ziktar · · Score: 1

      You're new here, aren't you?

  7. So where can I buy one of these? by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 1

    1. Make a webserver-fly-implant
    2. Sell it over the web
    3. Profit!

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  8. woops by Max+von+H. · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Hey Bob, I finally slammed that big fly that's been buzzing on-and-off my sandwich all day!"

    "Why do I get a 404 on the project's page? Bob?"

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    1. Re:woops by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Perhaps someone should send him an email: "Excuse me, your fly is down"? Or should we just be polite and not say anything?

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    2. Re:woops by TwP · · Score: 4, Funny

      403
      Buzz Off!
      FlyServe 1.01

  9. Seeking cheap karma... by shivianzealot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Imagine a beowulf swarm of those!

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    1. Re:Seeking cheap karma... by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

      Imagine a beowulf swarm of those!

      They are dead. They don't swarm anymore.

      <tongue in cheek>Besides, it makes sense to use a dead fly, but putting a server in a live fly, why, thats just plain silly.</tongue in cheek>

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    2. Re:Seeking cheap karma... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      If you can read German: This story show a possible use (and it's drawbacks) :-)

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    3. Re:Seeking cheap karma... by DahGhostfacedFiddlah · · Score: 1

      It IS easier to mod you down than to post an inteligent reply.

      I hope you intended to misspell intelligent.

  10. This raises an interesting possibility! by whoisvaibhav · · Score: 2, Funny

    It will be impossible to trace a bug in that webserver... because the bug is outside the webserver. Ha Ha Ha.

  11. Argh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    This is sick! Someone call the fly rights movement! How would you like a webserver shoved up your ass?

    1. Re:Argh! by Drachemorder · · Score: 1
      This is sick! Someone call the fly rights movement! How would you like a webserver shoved up your ass?

      The fly's dead. He doesn't care.

    2. Re:Argh! by Tackhead · · Score: 2, Funny
      > This is sick! Someone call the fly rights movement! How would you like a webserver shoved up your ass?

      Paging Alan Ralsky, Mr. Ralsky, your new colocation provider is waiting to meet you...

    3. Re:Argh! by andrew_0812 · · Score: 2, Funny

      anyone want to bet that PeTA is not drafting a letter as we speak?

    4. Re:Argh! by Machine9 · · Score: 1
      Heh, not too long ago somebody here had a link in his sig that took me to a pic of a guy who could fit a BEOWULF CLUSTER in his ass...

      I still can't sleep goddamnit!

    5. Re:Argh! by Moonshadow · · Score: 1
      Yeah, but they killed him! Poor little fly! Oh, the humanity!

      </sarcasm>

      Looks like PETA's gonna need a new advertisting campaign, "Holocaust On Your Network".

  12. Slashdotted? by krmt · · Score: 3, Funny

    The site linked is up fine right now, but the IP they give at the top as being the actual server on the fly isn't responding. Is it slashdotted? I'm picturing a smoking fly in the middle of the plastic cube. I'm just glad I don't have to smell it.

    Fly Server Admin: Damn you slashdot! Damn you! You killed my baby!

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    1. Re:Slashdotted? by Vendekkai · · Score: 3, Informative

      Doesn't ANYONE read the article? It clearly says at the top
      "Installation Date: June 1 to September 3rd, 2001"
      That means that this art exhibit was displayed between the above dates. It was taken down more than a year ago. So the IP displayed will not respond.

    2. Re:Slashdotted? by Lshmael · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, their new experiment (involving an earthworm) is a bit more disturbing, but just as interesting. Supposedly, there is a webcam up here, but I only get darkness...

    3. Re:Slashdotted? by constantnormal · · Score: 1

      and I thought we had Slashswatted the flyserver...

    4. Re:Slashdotted? by TheVidiot · · Score: 1

      Wormy is sleeping...

    5. Re:Slashdotted? by VEGx · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Doesn't ANYONE read the article?


      This must be your first post. Welcome! It looks like you are new to ./ :)
    6. Re:Slashdotted? by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ah well, it would have interesting to see that site. Did anyone use a fly-cacher?

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    7. Re:Slashdotted? by Pharmboy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Doesn't ANYONE read the article?

      I think the answer to that is pretty obvious. This IS Slashdot after all. We don't need to read an article to have an opinion on it :)

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    8. Re:Slashdotted? by VEGx · · Score: 1
      We don't need to read an article to have an opinion on it :)
      We've got an opinion (?) are you sure?
    9. Re:Slashdotted? by Dexx · · Score: 1

      "These weekly webcasts can be viewed from June 2002 through August 2002."

      I think that one's over too..

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  13. Elegant nevertheless by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny

    The impressive part is that they killed the fly by catching it in the air with chopsticks.

    1. Re:Elegant nevertheless by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 1

      that made me laugh out loud.. wish I had mod points, but you'll have to settle for a gold star

  14. PETA by phunhippy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Damn.. Peta is'nt gonna be happy about this..

    1. Killing poor flies..
    2. Implanting Chips in dead flies..

    1. Re:PETA by Stuart+Gibson · · Score: 3, Funny

      3. Profit?

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    2. Re:PETA by IncarnationTwo · · Score: 1

      [flame_filter]
      [bad_joke_mode]
      What, People Eating Tasty Animals?

      Who the fsck told you flies were tasty anyhow. And mind you, some of us like like our food 404'd
      [/bad_joke_mode]
      [/flame_filter]

      Somebody just had to say this. Sorry.

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    3. Re:PETA by eclectro · · Score: 2, Funny

      The first thing that came to my mind is that "PETA is going to be all over this" or they should.

      When you think about it, it does seem abusive to the poor creature.

      But I forgot, maybe the fly wasn't killed for the purposes of implanting the webserver and was found already dead someplace. Yeah, that's better.

      Somehow though this is not on the same level as "killing a cow" and implanting a webserver.

      Heh, I think I just invented the leather encased computer.

      I think there would be alot more objection if it was a butterfly though.

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    4. Re:PETA by Raul654 · · Score: 1

      Heh, I think I just invented the leather encased computer."

      Or a hamburger encased computer :)

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    5. Re:PETA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Would you like flies with that?

    6. Re:PETA by grumpygrodyguy · · Score: 1

      What's really gross is that my mouth started watering before I read this twice.

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    7. Re:PETA by mattsucks · · Score: 1

      3. ....
      4. Profit!

      (should I flame myself now, or just wait a bit?)

  15. I've got no good jokes for this story... by heldlikesound · · Score: 1

    I'm a pretty funny guy, no I take that back, a REALLY funny guy, but other than the obvious "waiter there's a server in my fly," I just can't think of any good ones.

    Of course it is 5:30 in the morning and I haven't slept in two days.

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    1. Re:I've got no good jokes for this story... by I+am+Emmitt+Smith · · Score: 1

      Indeed. This seems ripe to be a comedy gold mine of epic proportions, yet, as the cliche goes, I got nothing.

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    2. Re:I've got no good jokes for this story... by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm a pretty funny guy, no I take that back, a REALLY funny guy, but other than the obvious "waiter there's a server in my fly," I just can't think of any good ones.

      Wait'll you find out where Mozilla's Bugzilla is hosted...

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    3. Re:I've got no good jokes for this story... by xA40D · · Score: 1

      I just can't think of any good ones.

      Best I could come up with was...

      Now with 802.11a - WiFly.

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  16. wtf? by gomerbud · · Score: 1

    This is by far the strangest thing I have ever seen. I am almost offended by the idea of using a dead fly for decoration of an IC. What is this world coming to? If I didn't know any better, id think that this was the work of a plan9 user.

    Time to watch more Cowboy Bebop.

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    1. Re:wtf? by Max+von+H. · · Score: 1

      You don't know any better. There aren't any plan9 users left. Thank gods.

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  17. I suppose by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Funny

    I suppose it gives a new meaning to building pages on the fly...

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    1. Re:I suppose by xXunderdogXx · · Score: 1

      Most accurate/funny pun ever!

    2. Re:I suppose by spdycml · · Score: 1

      correction: Building pages IN the fly. hehe

  18. had to do it by I+am+Emmitt+Smith · · Score: 1, Funny

    In Soviet Russia, flies....do something to you. Servers...lights. I don't know, leave me alone.

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    1. Re:had to do it by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, fly embeds chip in YOU.

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  19. Beowulf swarm by WebfishUK · · Score: 1

    The next step has to be to get wireless on the chip and put the lot on a live fly (might need to upgrade to a bumble bee). Then we could have a beowulf swarm!

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    1. Re:Beowulf swarm by digitalgiblet · · Score: 1
      The next step has to be to get wireless on the chip and put the lot on a live fly (might need to upgrade to a bumble bee). Then we could have a beowulf swarm!

      The secret origin of the Borg...

  20. How to slash(dot) a dead fly by lhuiz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Imagine this: you are flying around, minding your own business, maybe having a nice sip of that fresh little rotting piece of meat on the counter, when suddenly you die. You are barely dead, when someone sticks a webserver up your ass, which kinda hurts, and then installs some LEDs on your back, drilling right through your well maintained exoskeleton.
    Then, when you have been online for just a few days, some hord comes down to slashdot your fine new webserver, and the lights go out.

    If I were that fly, I'd be pissed.

    Which reminds me of superfly. Know him? Check him out somewhere on www.shockwave.com.

    1. Re:How to slash(dot) a dead fly by LoveShack · · Score: 1

      I would wager that Arthur Dent was the last user served before the fly winked out its last.

  21. Gotta love art-speak... by Elledan · · Score: 5, Informative

    In short, what the page is trying to make clear is that these guys put a tiny IC, capable of functioning as a webserver, together with a LED in a dead fly (with some more, identical cyberflies as backup).

    The webserver (1K of space) shows a simple page, and the visitor of the page can turn the LED on/off.

    Further, the 'surgery' on the fly had to be carried out within 24 hours after its death, or it would have become too brittle, though the author noted that it's possible to rejoin broken off legs &c. with some glue. Provided you can find the bodypart in question :)

    The reason for this project? It's art, you insensitive clod!

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    1. Re:Gotta love art-speak... by grumpygrodyguy · · Score: 1

      In short, what the page is trying to make clear is that these guys put a tiny IC, capable of functioning as a webserver, together with a LED in a dead fly

      Yes, but he also mentions the following:

      "After that, I am planning on trying to build user-controlled living cockroaches mounted with cameras (which is completely possible from a technical perspective)."

      I wonder if he ever got anywhere with this...or if the CIA would let us know about it if he did.

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  22. Wow by archeopterix · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... and I thought that "Adapting applications on the fly" was an article about hot-swappable modules!

  23. This project is not gona fly by LucidBeast · · Score: 1

    Eh eh, they flie is dead...

  24. Hello? RTFA? by SlashChick · · Score: 4, Informative

    Did anyone (including the person who posted this story) actually read the article?

    If you read the article, the first thing that jumps out is the date: June 1 to September 3, 2001. In fact, if you'll notice, the IP address they refer to (http://139.142.46.159) is long gone.

    Reading further, it is revealed that this was a museum exhibit at the Mendel Art Gallery in Canada in 2001. The link cited shows the proposal they sent to the museum, which is why it reads rather oddly ("This will ideally allow for gallery staff to replace the fly.") The museum accepted the proposal, as can be seen here, at the museum's website.

    Please, editors, do your homework before posting these stories. It's an interesting story, but quite dated.

    1. Re:Hello? RTFA? by Zayin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Did anyone (including the person who posted this story) actually read the article?

      Hi, you must be new here. Hope you find this site interesting.

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    2. Re:Hello? RTFA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Well at least something around here gets dated!

    3. Re:Hello? RTFA? by grondu · · Score: 1

      Did anyone (including the person who posted this story) actually read the article?

      Don't worry. They will get a chance to not read it again when we have a duplicate post in a few hours.

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    4. Re:Hello? RTFA? by TopShelf · · Score: 1

      Are you kidding? Compared to recent articles (80's interview with BG, etc.), this is cutting edge stuff!

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    5. Re:Hello? RTFA? by entrigant · · Score: 1

      Yo.. not all of us know everything. =/ I've never seen this before, so I found it interesting. I don't think this is suppose to be a "most current news" site and more of a "hey look at what I found, this is pretty cool" site.

  25. But does it... by FullCircle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    run a time server?

    I'll make my computer watch time fly ;-)

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  26. Wait by Rutje · · Score: 1

    The world has been waiting for innovations like these... too bad there's animal cruelty involved

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    1. Re:Wait by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 1

      The world has been waiting for innovations like these... too bad there's animal cruelty involved

      In the grand scheme of things, dead flies are actually considered "spices", and not potential food. Therefore, there's no animal cruelty involved.

      Now, if it were embedded in a live mouse...what would it taste like?

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  27. damn by bjpirt · · Score: 5, Funny

    some people will casemod anything.

  28. Won't be long now... by en4ca · · Score: 1

    A fly-sized webserver? I'm suprised it lasted long enough for me to see it. Or maybe its something to do with the fact that its early morning in the US...

    1. Re:Won't be long now... by f00f42 · · Score: 1

      your fly is down .... ::duck::

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  29. The fly is dead ! by FullClip · · Score: 1

    Anyone into hardcore here ? ;)

    Well, not exactly me, but this "song" was the first tot pop in my head while reading the article.

    Yes, I read it (*gasp*).

  30. Obligatory mirror by thunderbee · · Score: 1

    Mirror here, without the video. Not sure if my home page will stay up longer than the original though ;)

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  31. Followed shortly by... by ChangeOnInstall · · Score: 2, Funny

    The first slashdotting of a fly:

    139.142.46.159

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    1. Re:Followed shortly by... by $$$exy+Gwen+Araujo · · Score: 1

      D'oh! You killed it!

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    2. Re:Followed shortly by... by netsharc · · Score: 1

      What is this trend of fan-whoring by offering links to naked chicks?!? Not that I mind, like someone said, "Slashdot, your one stop shop for procrastination."

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  32. Re:funny... by Afrosheen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not science, it's a fusion of science and art. You've got to actually read the site prior to the typical /. knee-jerk-reaction-for-funny-karma to actually get it.

    That said, from an art standpoint it's interesting. From a science/tech standpoint it's a yawn.

  33. Bugs by StealthSock · · Score: 1

    Wow not only are there bugs in software, now there is software in bugs. *ducks*

  34. But does it run Linux? by ufoman · · Score: 1

    But does it run Linux?

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  35. future of insecticide by hgp · · Score: 1
    I can see it now. All you need do is submit the url of that pesky fly hovering over your lunch as a story (don't forget to mention beowulf, M$, preferably the latest cpu/graphics card, and maybe RMS) and, hey presto, no more fly. SLASHDOTTED.

    (may take a few days though, and get posted/swatted a couple of times.)

  36. /. death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did the fly die before or after beind slashdotted?

    1. Re:/. death by dpilot · · Score: 1

      In this case, don't you mean "Slashswatted" instead of "Slashdotted"?

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    2. Re:/. death by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      I know an old lady who slashdotted a fly. I don't know why she slashdotted a fly...

      Actually, his fly has been down for over a year.

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    3. Re:/. death by infinite9 · · Score: 1

      Did the fly die before or after beind slashdotted?

      or was it slash-swatted?

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  37. hmmm by Lshmael · · Score: 1

    If wireless networking devices eventually get small enough, they could install a webserver in the fly while it was still alive. Or they could do it with bees (one hive = Beowulf cluster). Does anyone (human) have a webserver chip installed in them?

    1. Re:hmmm by DongleFondle · · Score: 1

      If this has not already been done, I would like to voulenteer to be the first. I have finally realized why God put me on this earth . . . Wireless will undoubtedly have to be used, I couldn't possibly be tied down by cables all day. I think my only stipulation is that I would like some say as to where the LED's would be placed . . . I will be the prototype for the future of the internet where everyone will be able to instantly collaborate what they know and they are thinking via TCP/IP . . .

  38. I'm waiting for... by bryhhh · · Score: 1

    An 802.11b version inserted into a live fly.

  39. Shhh! I think I hear it saying something... by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 5, Funny

    help meeeee... heellp meeeee...

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  40. Multitasking on the fly by palindromic · · Score: 3, Funny

    Isn't that what it says during the Windows 98 install? Press any key to continue...

    1. Re:Multitasking on the fly by CoolVibe · · Score: 1
      Nah, it's:

      (wait for it...)

      Hit any fly to continue

  41. Slashdot... the giant flyswatter by TheMidget · · Score: 3, Funny

    (n/t)

  42. A first .. by SirFlakey · · Score: 1

    There's a Server in your Bug ...

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  43. How about implementing it in a life fly... by TheMidget · · Score: 1

    ... and make the thing into an excellent spy tool!

  44. Isn't it Fruit flies that live a day ? by SirFlakey · · Score: 1

    think of the irony considering what happened to that server after it's been posted here ...

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  45. Yeah but..... by echucker · · Score: 1

    .... what if an old lady swallows it?

    1. Re:Yeah but..... by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 1

      what if an old lady swallows it?

      Obviously she'd have to go down on slashdot, so it'll catch the webserver, er, fly.

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  46. Whats next by captainclever · · Score: 1

    Next, I want to see a webserver inserted into a live fly, connected via bluetooth.

    The fly has to then be seen buzzing around in that glass box, not stuck on a stick :P

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  47. Mendel? by Reservoir+Penguin · · Score: 1

    >Alexandra Stratulat
    >Programs Facilitator
    >Mendel Art Gallery

    What next a webserver implanted in dead fetus? I'm glad that Mendels legacy is alive in well...

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  48. real purposes? by lingqi · · Score: 1

    okay, sorry to ruin all the fun here, but if they have chips *that* small that will serve pages, why not put one in one of those stomache-camera-pills, along with an RFID type low-power broadcaster, so you can webcam your interior?

    sorry I find no other reason why you'd do this kind of things.

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    1. Re:real purposes? by kgarcia · · Score: 1

      yes, and spawn a new generation of INTERNAL PR0N!!!

      SEE MY WEBCAM HERE

      it's funny. Laugh

      really, it is.

      no?

      oh well. it's 7am and i haven't slept yet.

    2. Re:real purposes? by DuckDuckBOOM! · · Score: 1
      why not put one in one of those stomache-camera-pills, along with an RFID type low-power broadcaster, so you can webcam your interior?
      I don't even want to THINK about the next round of X-10 webcam popups...
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  49. Embedded ID chips by GeckoFood · · Score: 1

    For years, we have heard of the coming possibility of chips embedded into our own skins, to allow easier identification, better retention of personal data, and all that jazz... I have not heard about such in a few months, but is this, perhaps, a first step towards that? Agreed, this goes *way* beyond a simple ID chip, but then again, we're talking dead insects, not live people...

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  50. And yet... by MrFreshly · · Score: 1

    Another IIS installation... Oh the horror.

  51. Nice case mod, but... by revmoo · · Score: 1
    The real challenge is going to be getting all that neon lighting in there. Everyone knows that it's not a case mod without neon lighting.

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  52. Fly Am Canadian! by TheVidiot · · Score: 1

    Straight outta Saskatchewan!

    Well, they know flies there...

  53. reincarnate as a webserver by bzeuz · · Score: 1

    Doesn't everyone wants to reincarnate as a webserver?

  54. wonder if it will catch fire? by AssFace · · Score: 1

    I suppose LEDs don't really get hot.

    when I was in college I can remember Mark Taylor bringing in a artist that was hooking himself up to electrodes and a web server and you could control him movements via a webpage.
    So you would click on a link on a page, and could make his right arm contract, or his left leg, whatever.
    Then he went live and he got lots of clicks and as a result was spastically moving about (he was suspended - perhaps by hooks in his back since that was another art thing he had done in the past).
    They let us try out the electrodes and they were uncofortable in that it feels like an intense muscle cramp since it fires all the muscle fibers instead of a smooth contraction like we normal have.
    I don't recall the guy's name, but it had an S in it, I think at the start. and he was not 'merican :)
    Slygart or something like that.
    damn art people are weird.

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    1. Re:wonder if it will catch fire? by Andy_R · · Score: 1

      That sounds like Stelarc to me... http://www.stelarc.va.com.au/

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    2. Re:wonder if it will catch fire? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      You think the electrodes and stuff were uncomfortable? Just wait until the geeks start pondering case mods and overclocking!

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    3. Re:wonder if it will catch fire? by AssFace · · Score: 1

      Yes!
      Thank you - that is it.

      He was a very odd fellow. Used to put hooks through his back and hang himself for days over the water or other various things, not eating the whole time.

      In the movie The Cell, there were a bunch of references to modern art - Stelarc was one of them. As well as... fuck - my art major was well spent since I can't recall any of these names - although I can tell you all about the artists. I want to say Joseph Beuys, but I'm not sure he is the correct reference.

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    4. Re:wonder if it will catch fire? by AssFace · · Score: 1

      Damien Hirst.

      that is the artist I was thinking of with the severed horses/cattle.

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  55. Nymphomation, anyone? by iainl · · Score: 1

    Coolness - its the first step blurbflies. When reality falls apart and Dominoes start doing our heads in, I'll know who to blame.

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  56. Wouldn't it be cool by eclectro · · Score: 1


    if they could find a way to keep the fly alive and attach a wireless webcam to it. It would give a hole new meaning to "bug."

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  57. About Garnet Hertz by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 2, Informative
    From here:


    Garnet Hertz is a lecturer at the University of Regina Department of Media Production & Studies, and is artist-in-residence at Soil Digital Media Suite, Regina, Canada. Hertz's current work involves the development of embedded webservers on miniature pill-sized microprocessors, and analysis of these objects in the framework of physical computing and the history of human-created semi-living beings: the golem, robot, cyborg, genetically modified organisms and the Romantic-Era experiments of Luigi Galvani. These computers - implanted into the preserved bodies of animal specimens - produce physically reactive cybernetic beings caught in a state of attempted re-animation.


    This is what happens when you read too much Gibson. The idea that a fly corpse with a Webserver chip and two LED's stuck in it is a "cybernetic being in a state of attempted reanimation" is ludicrous, since the system would behave exactly the same without the fly corpse. It ain't exactly Deadly Friend .

    It's worth noting that among this artist's other works are screenshots of his cluttered Mac desktop, used as a "visual medium" for artistic expression.
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    1. Re:About Garnet Hertz by grumpygrodyguy · · Score: 1

      This is what happens when you read too much Gibson. The idea that a fly corpse with a Webserver chip and two LED's stuck in it is a "cybernetic being in a state of attempted reanimation" is ludicrous, since the system would behave exactly the same without the fly corpse.

      Relax. How many times have you tried to convince someone how cool nanotechnology is? 99% of the planet still doesn't "get" nanotech. This exhibit is a great way of bridging the gap between theory and application. It's a very concrete demonsration of how technology can go all kinds of places.

      For instance:

      "After that, I am planning on trying to build user-controlled living cockroaches mounted with cameras (which is completely possible from a technical perspective)."

      Fab processes keep getting smaller, we have a proliferation of 802X devices, miniturized parts, etc. I'd say we're real close. Can you imagine having your own remote-controlled swarm of bees, each equipped with GPS and a camera? Talk about fun. :)

      Besides, Gibson was dead-on(or Stephenson if you prefer). We're just a bit behind schedule is all.

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    2. Re:About Garnet Hertz by Triv · · Score: 1

      It's worth noting that among this artist's other works are screenshots of his cluttered Mac desktop [conceptlab.com], used as a "visual medium" for artistic expression.

      I wouldn't have a problem with the desktop art piece if it weren't so friggin' abvious that it's a tiled background pattern. You CAN arrange thousands of icons and make it art (use the files like Seurat did, as overlapping pixels) but tiling it is the cheap way out.

      Triv

  58. Hehee..... by carlmenezes · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeh, and add a little 802.11b to the mix and you have a Wi-Fi-Fly-Fest :)

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    1. Re:Hehee..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      God that would rule.. make the chip host a server and 802.11 connectivity and make it small enough to be implanted without killing the fly. A living airborne web server..

      $ping fly
      fly is alive
      $

      Or imagine sneaking the baby in to bug someones WiFi - literally..

      Power supply might be a problem tho

  59. But how... by GrouchoMarx · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just how am I supposed to debug this thing when it crashes (into a windshield)?

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    1. Re:But how... by MyHair · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just how am I supposed to debug this thing when it crashes (into a windshield)?

      It depends on the vendor.

      IBM and Sun are starting a new service that will send a tech out to remove and fix the bug and clean your windshield. They are training the urban young for this project I think.

      Microsoft is selling a branded accessory kit with a wet wipe to clean the windshield but you have to buy a new OS which was incompatible with the old fly, anyway, so you have to buy a new fly, too.

      Dell just says "the fly is dead".

      FreeBSD says "Netcraft confirms it...".

      Debian has a HOWTO for how to scrape the guts off the windshield and rebuild the fly with no new parts. But it will be better and faster even though it reuses busted old parts.

      An Apple fly looks good and works no matter where it is or what it looks like, so you can just leave it on the windshield and it will still work fine and your friends will be impressed but still buy Dells.

      HP offers almost all of the above because they can't figure out what direction they're going. They consider buying a car manufacturer, and although Alpha is dead they may revive it to control the fuel injectors; no, wait, they changed their mind. But they hope you buy an HP printer (which by the way will work with any fly, any camera and any car).

  60. webserver in a dead fly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    They must have used a RAID...

  61. hehee :) by carlmenezes · · Score: 1, Funny

    Put the chip in a virgin fly and HTTP 403 takes on new meaning! :)

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  62. And to think that, all this time . . . .. by LazloToth · · Score: 1



    . . . . I've been trying to get a fly OUT of my server.

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    It's only funny until someone gets hurt. Then, it's hilarious.
  63. Reminds me of... by dooby · · Score: 1
    This article about a web server the size of a match head.

    Given that the site says the server has been running July 1999 I wonder if the fly web server is just an 'interesting' application of the same technology?

  64. Re:my body is my blog by kgarcia · · Score: 1

    sounds great

    until slashdot gets a hold of the story

    then is clickthrough overload

    and your webserver (you) crashes.

  65. A hive mind? by Gax · · Score: 1

    Imagine a beowolf cluster of these things. To the uneducated observer it would look like a fly orgy!

  66. ssh to the dog, accsess the cat with mozilla by ExEleven · · Score: 1

    First there was those bee's now these flys. And I thought Internet Kitchen Appliances were stupid.

    What next, Internet Controllable live animals, ssh to your dog and tell it to sit, cat with a mysql database and php frontend to see when it needs food.

  67. So are they saying by popeyethesailor · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's a bug and its a feature ;)

    1. Re:So are they saying by questforme · · Score: 1

      Now this and Windows have something in common.

  68. Imagine... by jarran · · Score: 2

    ... a beowulf cluster of those!! -1, cliched

  69. Future IBM Commercial: by Craig+Maloney · · Score: 5, Funny
    The Heist, Part II

    Man hurredly runs with two policemen in tow:
    Man: "I can't believe it, they stole everything!"
    Cop1: Everything?
    Man: "Everything!"

    (Man and cops head into empty server room)

    Man: "They were right here. Ned! The servers! they stole all the servers!"
    Ned: "No, they didn't. I embedded them on a dead fly on the window sill. It'll save us a bundle."

    Announcer: "IBM dead fly servers! It'll save you a bundle"

    Cop2 (hunched over the window sill): Um, I think that carpenter ant is dragging your server away

    1. Re:Future IBM Commercial: by I+am+Emmitt+Smith · · Score: 1

      If only I had mod points. That was hilarious.

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    2. Re:Future IBM Commercial: by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      Have you seen their latest series of commercials?

      "There are no magic dead fly servers"

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  70. you may think it's funny now by Xpilot · · Score: 1

    But wait till this fly returns from the dead with the help of his cybernetic implants to seek revenge! Revenge Of The Cyborg Fly! Don't say I didn't warn you.

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    1. Re:you may think it's funny now by idontgno · · Score: 1
      But wait till this fly returns from the dead with the help of his cybernetic implants to seek revenge! Revenge Of The Cyborg Fly! Don't say I didn't warn you.

      Sounds like a Joe Cartoon Supahfly story to me.

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  71. Actually it was supposed to be a live fly by stienman · · Score: 1

    It was supposed to be a live fly, but couldn't withstand the soldering iron.

    It's probably a good thing though, live flies tend to keep dropping their 'tokens', which would not only offend patrons, but upset network admins.

    What I'd give to be a fly on the wall for that exhibit.

    -Adam

  72. Re:funny... by VEGx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Oh, so now the trend in ./ is to move away from tech and towards the ART! Has this something to do with the rumour that the editors of /. finally got some Macs?

  73. Instead of worrying about Slammer... by Bvardi · · Score: 2, Funny

    They'll be worrying about Swatter!

  74. Motivation? by pnot · · Score: 1

    From the site:

    Our approximation and abstraction of reality becomes indiscernible as technology continues to mediate our everyday experience. Tele-presence art, however, attempts to be less concerned with the technological feat than with the breaking down of unidirectional communication structures distinguishing both visual arts and mass media. Within the installation, Fly, the utopian rhetoric invested within the notion of telepresence is ultimately usurped by the ultra-trite, supra-insignificant act of possession.


    Yeesh. Since when is "because it would be so cool!" not a sufficient reason?

    1. Re:Motivation? by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1

      The fly is just part of an evil plot to spam us in new and exciting ways. From the fly, in my email now: "Earn extra money from home with little effort. Sell drugs."

  75. Re:Gotta love art-bullcrap... by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I really wonder just what he meant by a "web server". Take a look at the microcontroller and tell me how likely it is that this supports to slightest sub-set of HTTP. There's 1k of EEPROM code space, 64 bytes of ram, and 64 bytes of data EEPROM. Note also that's there's no hardware networking or serial port. (No biggie in software if you use the timer, but it still eats part of the code space.) Also, think about the 64 bytes of ram and your line buffer as the HTTP command comes in. Hmmm. Now, don't get me wrong, you can do a lot in 1k of code, but I smell something that flies are usually found near.

    Could it be that they've got a midget in the pedestal playing the chess moves, err, another computer doing the web page and using the Fairchild chip as an LED controller?

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  76. What happens when ... by cushty · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... a web spider comes along?

  77. Is it just me by dfcox530 · · Score: 1

    Why is an almost 2 year old story about a dead fly just now making it to the front page. When I read the article I thought it was mildly amusing but when I realized how old it was I thought whats the point...

  78. Are we sure it's not a hoax? by nut · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Google turned up the following page for the chip that is meant ot be the webserver.

    http://www.chipdocs.com/pndecoder/datasheets/FAIR/ ACE1101VMT8.html

    It describes the chip as an arithmetic controller engine, but the datasheet requires paid registration. Could this chip actually serve web pages?
    I confess I don't know enough to judge.

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    1. Re:Are we sure it's not a hoax? by TheLink · · Score: 1

      1K bytes EEPROM
      64 bytes data EEPROM
      64 bytes RAM

      I suppose it might not be too difficult if just runs just a webserver and not the tcp/ip stack. The O/S and tcp/ip stack being outside the chip. And that looks like what is claimed to be done:

      "The ACE1101 servers run an assembly-code program called "WebACE" - which is a 1K program that includes all website material, networking, and the ability for website viewers to remotely trigger electrical switches (like LEDs, for example). The ACE1101 connects via RS232 serial port to a host computer via standard SLIP link - similar to how many computers connect to the internet via a dialup ISP."

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    2. Re:Are we sure it's not a hoax? by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Hard to say. From the specs there's not much to this chip. 1k code EEPROM, 64 bytes data EEPROM, 64 bytes ram. It obviously doesn't handle any of the networking: You pass it a single HTTP command via a serial port, you get the response back. (One person could slashdot this thing!)

      Could it be done with the 64 bytes ram? Maybe. (It's the stack space too remember.) It would be a tight hack. It would also be much easier to keep all the web functions on the external computer and use the microcontroller just to turn on/off the LEDs. So much easier, that I really suspect that we're being hosed about the server really being done on the fly.

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    3. Re:Are we sure it's not a hoax? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Huh, it looks like there is a package to do a web server Cute hack.

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    4. Re:Are we sure it's not a hoax? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      See my later post up a couple. It does actually web serve, with SLIP no less! There are lots of neat controller applications these could be used for. (Throw a whole bunch of them along some cabling, and you could centrally control .. thermostats, burglar alarms, etc..)

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  79. I don't know why by Cophee · · Score: 1

    mmmmmmmm

    It appears to have been slashdotted(surprise!)

    Do you think that google has spidered the fly???

  80. Re:Gotta love art-bullcrap... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

    Rethinking. You don't need a line buffer, just a teeny-weenie state engine to parse the stream as it comes in. (It's been a while since I had to think in a space that small.) Very very tight.

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  81. imagine... by borgdows · · Score: 1

    a *hive* cluster of these...

  82. Why, oh why did they post this? by ndnet · · Score: 1

    It's an impressive little thing, I agree, but we're SLASHDOTTING IT!!!

    It's either going to be reanimated as a plain old zombie fly or, due to excess heat, etc. from the chip, mutate into some sort of Zombie Flyzilla!

    Maybe that isn't so bad. Toss in 802.11b hardware and some other guts - broadband wireless access for all!

  83. You knew this one was coming! by Mark+(ph'x) · · Score: 4, Funny

    IN SOVIET RUSSIA....

    bugs have your webserver!

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  84. careful by whimdot · · Score: 1

    fly posters will be prosecuted

  85. I think ... by Wordsmith · · Score: 1

    I think we just slashdotted Jeff Goldblum.

  86. The parable of the Dog's Dick by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    ... just because you can do something, that doesn't necessarily mean you should.

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  87. The obligatory... by ShortedOut · · Score: 1

    How ironic, the web caught in the fly.

    Read the article? Me? Pfft!

  88. Actually not too impressive by worst_name_ever · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Here, yet again, is another "WORLD'S SMALLEST WEBSERVER!!!1!!11" which is uses a SLIP connection to get to the outside world. Having actually implemented something like this myself, I can tell you that there's really nothing that challenging about such an undertaking anymore these days - the technique is well known and there are even books published on the subject which reveal some of the tricks, such as the use of precomputed TCP headers and the creation of a semi-crippled "stateless" stack which saves you a lot of code space and memory usage. I consider the SLIP connection a giant cheat, since you're leveraging the power of the (presumably) Linux box that's attached to the other end of the SLIP line and offloading onto it the difficulties of the actual "connecting to the Internet" part. The embedded webservers which really impress me are the ones that have a modem or RJ45 connection and can exist as network nodes in their own right; these are much more technically interesting and useful as actual real-world devices.

    So, to me, this particular instance of the same thing from 1999 is basically a neat soldering job but nothing technically innovative in terms of embedded connectivity. But as art, it's pretty cool. ;)

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    1. Re:Actually not too impressive by rabidcow · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The embedded webservers which really impress me are the ones that have a modem or RJ45 connection and can exist as network nodes in their own right;

      So has anyone ever done a web server in an rj45 connector? Now that would be cool.

    2. Re:Actually not too impressive by xombo · · Score: 1

      So, to me, this particular instance of the same thing from 1999 [slashdot.org] is basically a neat soldering job but nothing technically innovative in terms of embedded connectivity. But as art, it's pretty cool. ;)

      Yes, and even back then, people were saying it was nothing special. Now, if someone made an RJ-45 webserver with tiny HDD, TCP/IP, DHCP, ETC, that sized, THEN I will be imprssed.

  89. I'd be impressed.. by Frank+of+Earth · · Score: 1

    .. if they could fit a squid in a fly.

  90. Re:Gotta love art-bullcrap... by AndroidCat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I eat my words! As you can see here there is a package for the chip that supports a SLIP connection with a limited TCP/IP stack. Wow! Impressive! Granted it doesn't do a lot, but for the sort of applications it would be used for, it doesn't need to.

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  91. If it was a .NET server by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1

    They would have needed a June bug.

  92. Why did the fly die? Because.. by Frank+of+Earth · · Score: 1

    .. they tried to add more disk space and killed it. I guess one could say that RAID killed the fly.

  93. Re:funny... by brmic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    well i actually did read the site before posting, and i still fail to see any scientific or artistic value.
    So from my standpoint, the thing is just plain BORING either way. The fact that it's supposed to be artsy doesn't qualify imho.
    So please, if you like it, just say so and stop the typical /. bashing-of-opinions-I-disagree-with. ;-)

  94. It uses the ACE1101 by rtos · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Here's some information on the ACE1101 Arithmetic Controller Engine (ACEx) for Low Power Applications:
    Arithmetic Controller The ACE1101 (Arithmetic Controller Engine) family of microcontrollers is a dedicated programmable monolithic inte-grated circuit for applications requiring high performance, low power, and small size. It is a fully static part fabricated using CMOS technology. The ACE1101 product family has an 8-bit microcontroller core, 64 bytes of RAM, 64 bytes of data EEPROM and 1K bytes of code EEPROM. Its on-chip peripherals include a multi-function 16-bit timer, watchdog/idle timer, and programmable under-voltage detection circuitry. On-chip clock and reset functions reduce the number of required external components. The ACE1101 product family is available in 8-pin TSSOP, 8-pin DIP and 14-pin DIP packages.
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  95. Anal Implants? by PSL · · Score: 1

    Could we all get those neat little chips glued to our butts? Cause you know that behind every website there is a a$$h0le.

    --

    "Times may change, but standards must remain the same." - George Carlin.
  96. The poor little fly... by Frank+of+Earth · · Score: 1

    .. was so overwhelmed by serving up web pages that the developers would whisper words of encourgement... "Cache it if you can!"

  97. I can see it now... by dfj225 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Guy1: "Why is that fly on fire?"
    Admin: "Damn you Slashdot!!!!!!!!!"

    --
    SIGFAULT
  98. I'd like to be a fly on the wall... by objekt · · Score: 1

    ...not really, just wanted to make sure all the fly jokes were used up.

    --
    -- Boycott Shell
    1. Re:I'd like to be a fly on the wall... by wayne606 · · Score: 1

      If it runs a unix-like OS you can run "wall" on the fly ...

  99. If this project took place in 1998.. by Deal-a-Neil · · Score: 1

    .. VC's would have funded this company with $100M promising that the fly-based-server market will be a $90B industry by 2005 (backed up by a $5K Jupiter Communications report). IPO with market cap of $7B. News article, "ZDNet Fits 225K Fly-Servers in 42U". Market cap inflates to $10B .. [sigh] What I'd rather see is a 100-node Beuwolf cluster mounted to a billy-goat.

  100. New moderation category by fzammett · · Score: 1

    Should include the word ODD in that drop-down!

    Ahem... as I get into my comic book man disguise...

    Strangest... story... EVER!

    --
    If a pion (n-) collides with a proton in the woods & noone is there to hear it, does lamdba decay into the source pa
  101. For once... by ndogg · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't actually want to imagine a beowulf of these things.

    --
    // file: mice.h
    #include "frickin_lasers.h"
  102. Not 'serving' according to the schematic by ck42 · · Score: 1

    According to the schematic that is supposedly used for the server, the RX line isn't even hooked-up; although, the TX line is active.

    But what point is there in that??

  103. Why didn't they use a dead spider? by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 1

    Web server after all ...

  104. /.ed creature by chillywillycd · · Score: 1

    are we now to be witness to the 1st /.ing of a (formerly) living being?

  105. bZZZ... by BinaryGrind · · Score: 1

    bZZZ...
    Damn fly
    I know!
    bZZZ...
    *fly screaming* AHHH!
    Slashdot: The Digital fly swatter!

    --
    Life is like a jar of jalapeños, what you do today may burn your ass tomorrow.
  106. That fly looks better than the woman by hottoh · · Score: 1

    Ack! Make her the webserver next time.

    http://www.conceptlab.com/fly/img/fly-installati on -wall-d4.jpg

    See for yourself.

  107. Ashcrofts new security weapon by linuxislandsucks · · Score: 1

    Considering the date of the article this probably is now part of Ashcroft's security iniative..

    Never say that government moves fast, with intelligence, or reason..

    --
    Don't Tread on OpenSource
  108. Cyborg Fly Invades Tokyo by MikeFM · · Score: 1

    Does anyone else see this spawning a monster-eats-Tokyo type of television series? Swarms of cyborg insects invading Tokyo and implanting tiny webservers in every person they land in.. watching our children slowly become cyborgs... arghhhh Borg Bugs!

    --
    At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
  109. What the hell is this?? by webmaker · · Score: 1

    You think this is a fly with a chip on its back but actually It the base code for windows to be delivered to China as requested.

  110. Re:Time Heavy on Their Hands by Michael_Burton · · Score: 1

    If we could just harness the energies of all these folks with too much time on their hands, we could... dare I say it? ... rule the world!!

    --
    When all you have is an axe, everything looks like a grindstone.
  111. I'm not impressed until... by Eric+Jaakkola · · Score: 1

    They implat the web server into a living fly - with wireless.

  112. Waiter! by trellick · · Score: 1

    "Waiter! There's a website in my soup!"

  113. 1971 Fun with Flies by dbCooper0 · · Score: 1
    OK, this brought back a less technical but somewhat innovative "experiment" that used to really drive our teachers bonkers!

    Bored in class, one of us would capture the largest fly we could, and hold it down carefully on the desk. The other would pluck one of our shoulder-length hairs out and carefully tie it to one of the fly's rear legs. To the other end of the hair, a small scrap of paper was attached.

    The sight of this flight-crippled insect floating around the classroom in slow motion was hilarious! Once we had three aloft at once :))

    --
    db
    Cig:
    ôô
    /`
  114. I can imagine... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
    A newbee admin walks into the lead admin's cubie. Holding up some tweezers, he says "Hey look, I found a fly in the server."

    Lead admin sighs, holds head and mutters "that was the server..."

    --
    One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
  115. Re:PETA bred by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

    If he wanted to avoid any sympathy, he could have used a cockroach. Even PETA should be okay with that. However, there is then the dangerous possiblity of "cockroach cluster" jokes -- which could lead to Python.

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    One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
  116. not a just a joke by mandrake*rpgdx · · Score: 1

    but an automated troll. and by the looks of it, using a malkhov chain based text algorythm. A really simple random text generator that creates psuedo english based on word pairs.

    I wonder what text he used as the input....

  117. A game cube by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    A new idea:
    1. Catch a bunch of insects, flies, dragon-flies, beetles, mosquitos maybe, spiders.

    2. Implant microchips that control and coordinate movement and have them wirelessly connected to seperate controllers.

    3. Put them into a glass cube.

    4. Now you have a 3D game, where different characters can be controlled to move around and kill each other.

    5. Profit.

    1. Re:A game cube by 311Stylee · · Score: 1

      No, no, no, NO! you got it all wrong.

      the /proper/ und3rpants gnome business model is:

      1. Stockpile underwear.

      2. ???

      3. Profit.

      This code snippet can be applied to your thing too:

      1. Stockpile arthropods.

      2. ???

      3. Profit.

      See? easy AND fun!

  118. Homeland Security Response by LittleGuy · · Score: 1

    If you read the article, the first thing that jumps out is the date: June 1 to September 3, 2001. In fact, if you'll notice, the IP address they refer to (http://139.142.46.159) is long gone.

    "And this was just before the events of September 11th. Coincidence? I tell you, Al Queda will be using flies against us!

    Raise the Terror Level to Chantreuse!"

    --
    Mod Karma -1: I sed bad wurds. If I cep my mouf shut, I wud be at riyses.
  119. Best one I've seen... by algernon7 · · Score: 1

    is an earlier post with what should have been the obvious 'excuse me, your fly is down' reference, by Androidcat.

    1. Re:Best one I've seen... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Thanks. Someone later posted basically the same thing upstream of it and got another 4 karma. *sigh* :^)

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      One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
  120. Yakov would be proud. by nobodyman · · Score: 1


    I expected more "In Soviet Russia..." posts. Typically, the bugs are in the webserver.

  121. Technology further complicates our lives by reptar64 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Brings new meaning to the phrase, "Excuse me, your fly is down."

  122. Just got the joke by oliverthered · · Score: 1

    the fly is a web server. think spider.......

    --
    thank God the internet isn't a human right.
  123. The point? by AppyPappy · · Score: 4, Funny

    The point? What is the point?

    "Look I embedded a server into a fly"
    Boss: "DON'T YOU HAVE WORK TO DO?"

    "Look I embedded a server into a fly"
    Mother: "What's wrong with a date now and then? I'll trade the dead fly for a grandchild"

    "Look I embedded a server into a fly"
    Dad: "Is it a job? A dead fly server is nice but you can't eat with it."

    --

    If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem

  124. It's a joke you fool..... by oliverthered · · Score: 1

    well, it took me ages to work it out so I'm a fool tooooo.

    all flys are web servers. spiders web.

    --
    thank God the internet isn't a human right.
  125. hehe by muyuubyou · · Score: 5, Funny

    Talk about serving web pages "on the fly" :-)
    Sorry, couldn't resist

    In Soviet Russia, our bugs have programs

    Sorry again

    1. Re:hehe by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      Pretty stale, both of those have already been over used.

      Let's see.. Always backup your servers -- make sure your fly is zipped!

      --
      One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
  126. There was an old woman who swallowed a .. by SolemnDragon · · Score: 5, Funny
    Gods help me, i can't do it.
    Well, i'll give it a try:

    There was an old woman who swallowed a server

    It didn't deserve her, but there went the server

    and i don't know why /she swallowed the fly/
    But we can light up her eyes...

    i think this one has to end with...

    i know an old woman who took windows source

    she's dead, of course! oke, i think it's out of my system now. Apologies for the temporary insanity...

  127. HA! LEDs do Morse Code? by catdevnull · · Score: 1
    I wonder if the blinking LEDs spell out "Help me!"

    Let the puns begin!!
    • Usually, the bugs are IN the server...
    • I wonder if they'll install a list-server, too? Majordomo for Musca domestica
    • If it were a porn site, would it have buggery?
    • I suppose this server isn't "RAID" compatible
    FlyServ: More bang for the bug!
    DAMN! I CAN'T STOP --must---click--submit---
    ...if it had a disk drive would it be a buzzy SCSI?...
    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! .......{submit}
    --

    I might know what I'm talkin' about, but then again, this is Slashdot...
  128. Re:my body is my blog by p4ul13 · · Score: 1

    Why would you want a fly implanted in you? =P

    --
    Paul Lenhart writes words!
  129. me too by trb · · Score: 1

    I tried embedding my PC web server in a fly. My fly died too.

  130. Ummm..... isn't this article a little early? by cardshark2001 · · Score: 1
    I mean, c'mon, everybody knows you're supposed to wait til next month to post this kind of crap. What's next?

    "Beowulf cluster of perpetual motion machines power successful search for the Loch Ness monster", or "Duke Nukem Forever released"?

    --
    WWJD? JWRTFA!
  131. I knew a woman who installed IIS on a horse by Big_Monkey_Bird · · Score: 4, Funny

    It died of course.

  132. Bug in the webserver? No, webserver in the Bug! by tekrat · · Score: 1

    This gonna make programmers freak.

    Admiral Grace Hopper must be doing 45 RPM by now.

    --
    If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
    1. Re:Bug in the webserver? No, webserver in the Bug! by SimJockey · · Score: 1

      Kudos, man. In 5 years of /., this is the single funniest comment I have ever read!

      --
      Laugh while you can, monkey boy!
  133. You have to ask? by DaveOf9thKey · · Score: 1

    What's the point? Cheap, silly, groan-inducing puns -- that's the point! How sick and twisted would we be as a race if we didn't look at a story like this and think...

    • Wouldn't debugging this server ruin the entire project?
    • Waiter, there's a linux box in my soup!
    • Press "swatter" to reboot.
    • Would a web spider crash this fly?
    • Where's the windex? There's server mush all over my windshield.
    • Man, that's a really SCSI interface.

    Who needs a legitimate reason with all this comedic potential? Our fly server will be here all week, and it wants you to try the veal!

    --

    Visit me on the web at Permanent4.com.
  134. I guess we have to update the song... by TheConfusedOne · · Score: 5, Funny

    There was an old geek who swatted a fly.
    He wriggled and jiggled and put a web server inside.

    He posted the fly, a URL for our eye.

    (wait for it...)

    I don't know why, we slashdotted the fly. :-}

    --
    --- I wish I could hear the soundtrack to my life. That way I'd know when to duck.
  135. slashdotted by cindik · · Score: 1

    URL comes up forbidden now. Anyone got a cache reference?

  136. War Department by ralphus · · Score: 1
    Wait until the DOD or department of homeland defense, gets its hands on tons of computerized spy flies.

    Adds a whole new meaning to getting bugged, or on the other hand, can you do a full bug sweep of your house with a can of raid, or your own computerized spiders?

    --
    Revolutions are never about freedom or justice. They're about who's going to be top dog. -- Kilgore Trout
  137. Distributed fly swatter by X-Nc · · Score: 1

    The site is already /.'ed. So does that make /. the bigest virtual distributed fly swatter in the world?

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    --
    If I actually could spell I'd have spelled it right in the first place.
  138. Re:Can you imagine... by andrew_0812 · · Score: 1

    Also, can you imagine what happens when it get /.ed?

    Ever seen a bug zapper?

  139. So I guess this means... by KC7GR · · Score: 1

    ...that the fly in your soup -- the one with the teeny-tiny camera and custom-made mask/snorkel -- is spying on you. Either that, or John Ashcroft has come up with a New and Better(?) method of domestic surveillance.

    Ooops! Dang it, I didn't want to give him any ideas!!!

    Anyone for a new series? Maybe something like "Spy Fly?"

    I'm going to go take my meds now... ;-)

    --

    Bruce Lane, KC7GR,

    Blue Feather Technologies

  140. what is the point? by Hard_Code · · Score: 1

    Wow, we can kill things specifically to embed web servers in them for public amusement. Great accomplishment. What's next, grandma? I find it rather disgusting.

    --

    It's 10 PM. Do you know if you're un-American?
  141. Is this a good idea? by dangermurphy · · Score: 1

    What you need to do is outfit the cockroaches with weapons, 802.11, micro fuel cells - or maybe you could power everything by thermal or solar cells, and it could be the greatest online game ever, as long as the cyborg roaches dont take over the rest of new york

  142. Grandma by JoshRoss · · Score: 1

    I think my Grandma would make an awesome web server. This reminds me of the CyborgRat.

  143. This just in ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Zombie processes running on several University and DoD computers have initiated a Denial of Service attack against the Fly's webserver. Experts are confused whether using RAID would have prevented this.

  144. Server Crash by Denver_80203 · · Score: 1

    will have a whole new meaning

  145. Cashdot Effect by nick_davison · · Score: 3, Informative

    I just got the message:

    "Thank You Slashdot!
    (you just made me $0.05 richer)
    RCTOYS.COM
    Close Window
    4423 x $0.05 = my money"


    Rather than bitch about being slashdotted, the guy has style and, put up a banner to a cool geek toy site and let us pay for slashdotting him. That's so much cooler than complaining about it. Kudos.

  146. *SPLAT* by UTPinky · · Score: 1

    I think the fly got slashswatted.

    --
    I'm only paranoid because everyone is against me...
  147. RAID! by vmfedor · · Score: 2, Funny
    RAID Level 5 -- Kills Bugservers Dead.

    --

    I like my women how I like my sugar.. granulated.

  148. Simpsons Did It... by orichter · · Score: 1

    Awww Crap.

  149. I'm Not Particularly Impressed by jeepmeister · · Score: 1

    Now planting a server with a webcam in a LIVE fly would have endless possibilities. No, wait...

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    I don't need no estinkin' .sig
    Jeepmeister
  150. New niche? by TobiasSodergren · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think the ideas for new market segments for wearable gadgets are going way out of proportion. How would this generate money? The buyer is dead, for crying out loud!

  151. This fly is down, anyway -- Slashswatted! by Interrobang · · Score: 2, Funny

    The page you get now when you try to access the site says, "Slashdotters: Please bookmark this site and come back next week..." (What?! Is he a glutton for punishment or something?)

    Looks like we swatted that fly. :)

  152. mirror by dfj225 · · Score: 1

    here
    be gentle...

    --
    SIGFAULT
  153. Re:funny... by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

    Um, it's well known that some editors have osx-equipped macs.

  154. mm by zorander · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is one of the first "slashdot response" 404 pages I've seen that actually attempts to turn a profit via click-throughs. I wonder if we can slashdot the click-through site too?

    Also, this is some pretty sick stuff--killing small animals and inserting web servers into their corpses? uh...Not exactly the fruits of a healthy mind, imho...

    Brian

  155. Webcam in a remote control fly? by Zone-MR · · Score: 2, Insightful

    These would make good surveillance devices!

    All we need is to implant it in a LIVE fly, add some wi-fi, and let it send some neural feedback?

  156. The guy posted his phone number for us?? by Kargan · · Score: 2, Funny

    He must be under the assumption we won't (inadvertently, of course!) Slashdot his phone network, too...

    Hehe. I'm imagining people calling him and going "First Post!" and then hanging up.

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    Palaces, barricades, threats, meet promises
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  159. THE FLY!!! by macshune · · Score: 1

    "I am a fly who onced dreamed he was a man.....and without a webserver"

  160. DAMN RIGHT! by krmt · · Score: 1
    Did anyone (including the person who posted this story) actually read the article?
    Because, as you know, it is of critical importance that this article be read, for all our fates rest upon the knowledge that it imparts. It's not really just something to amuse us.
    --

    "I may not have morals, but I have standards."

  161. Interesting proof of concept by Grave · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ok, this is actually a good proof of concept for the private sector. Of course, the US Army (and CIA as well) is rather ahead of this one, having built small mechanical bugs with cameras and wireless links in them. Or at least they were working on that project. Great for observing terrorists inside their caves, but the transmission tends to break up easily inside caves. Same problem with the ground robots they used. Easier to use earth-penetrating radar in overhead surveilance.

  162. Look before you step!!!! by macshune · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dude, you just stepped on my webserver.
    Oh shit, sorry...

    Hey, the music stopped?
    Oh shit, sorry...

  163. Always mount a... by 4mn0t1337 · · Score: 1

    But remember to always mount a scratch fly!

    --

    ______
    Once: you're a philosopher. Twice: a pervert.

  164. is it... by Spydr · · Score: 1

    Several pre-programmed and wired flies will be on hand in case of technical malfunction. Each fly will be cabled with a standardized electrical male/female plug end - an RJ45 (standard ethernet) connector. This will ideally allow for gallery staff to replace the fly.

    but is it hot swappable?

  165. Not just the fly is down -- His next project by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
    The fly has been down for over a year, but it looks like the site talking about it was taken down by Garnet. (All those pictures, all those slashdotters probably cost a pretty penny.) He now has a text page talking about his next project and a pop up that if we click on, his friend will give him a nickel. (Obvious not a good friend! :^) Here's the text:

    Slashdotters - please bookmark this page and visit it over the next week. If you have any questions about my work, email me at garnet [at] vividworks [dot] com or phone me at (306) 664-9495 - I am happy to talk to you.

    I am currently building a project with a preserved frog (or mouse) with an implanted webserver and camera, with user-controlled twitching legs. This project will be launched in October 2003. Bookmark conceptlab.com for details.

    After that, I am planning on trying to build user-controlled living cockroaches mounted with cameras (which is completely possible from a technical perspective).

    I will re-enable the images and video on this page over the next couple of days.

    If you want to support my work, check out my friend's wierd/neat stuff on the popup window (or click here - lots of gadgets, and he gives me a nickel for each click-through. His four rotor helicopter/camera thing is pretty neat. If you buy something, tell him that Garnet sent you and that you should get some free stuff thrown in.

    I wonder if he's thought about goat servers?

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    One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
  166. And now for something completely different... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
    A man with a web server up his brother's nose!

    I see (by the updated page 8:40pm EST) that his next project will involve either a dead (crunchy?) frog or mouse with a web server and able to twitch by web command. Umm, in a necro rut perhaps? (The cockroachcam sounds cool. Talk about Reality TV!)

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    One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
  167. WHY? by ethanms · · Score: 1

    WHY the HELL would ever want THIS????

    Now, a living fly with a webserver + camera that is connected to the internet via bluetooth or 802.11 would be cool...

  168. Bug by danila · · Score: 1

    If only he managed to bug the bug by installing the webcam inside the fly...

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    Future Wiki -- If you don't think about the future, you cannot have one.
  169. hahahahaha by OPPressed · · Score: 1

    Hey, nevermind /.'s not reading articles.. but you are totaly confused! look harder...... theres no chics :> lord o mercy!

    1. Re:hahahahaha by netsharc · · Score: 1

      Heh I only clicked the link afterwards, only then realizing that there are no girls.

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