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Microsoft Adding Blogs to Longhorn?
prostoalex writes "A Microsoft Research project called 'Wallop' has weblogging and document-sharing features and will be integrated into the next-generation Microsoft OS. In related news, MSN is being split into two subdivisions, one of which will take care of communications tools (Messenger, Passport, Hotmail, ISP service), while the other will deal with Web properties (MSN.com, etc.)"
Slashdot adding blogs?! HAHAHA... err, oh wait.
Remember the slashdot story a couple days ago (Cannot find link right now) about the Microsoft employee who got fired for posting pics of MS's new G5s on his blog? Who knows, maybe there will be hidden "features" in this that will only help MS. Then again, I'm paranoid.
Yup...
And we all say "Amen".
Praise the lord, ye almight Gates, whose code is not flawless and security not impeded!
Karma: Chameleon (mostly due to the fact that you come and go).
Coming up next on your worst nightmare: blogspot, livejournal, movable type, etc. get sued for infringing on M$'s upcoming patent on blogs.
Note that this is a satirical post, so please don't think that I am claiming that M$ is going to patent blogs. I no way of knowing this.
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Thanks a lot microsoft, for making another security risk. The hackers will have a field day with this one!
MSN is being split into two subdivisions
First Microsoft was forced to split itself into 2 divisions, now they are actively doing it themselves. Maybe they've decided that more divisions is better for the company as a whole?
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For the record, the article says "parts" of Wallop are going into Longhorn, probably the user/group management features and not a built in Blogging utility. Besides, Windows already has one - it's called notepad.
Now, here's the meat in this article:
On the presentation front, Rashid said Microsoft is advancing the state of the art and making it so that the Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) can be used to do more general-purpose computations for things like simulations, user interface work, font rendering, and display management and manipulation. Some examples include geometry amplification on the GPU and pre-computed radiance transfer--for doing things like translucent objects, view-dependent displacement mapping and water rendering on the Xbox.
How cool is that? Now that 500mhz CPU on your fancy video card can actually do something useful.
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i want to know what my windows machine is thinking while it's trying to retain its memory. does it wish it was another os? does it wonder why this is happening again?... i mean didn't i just blue screen a few minutes ago for the very same reason? the blue screen would be the perfect place for such discussion. i'm sitting there captivated!
i want to know! tell me windows! how do you feel about this?
Hell, they'll get Blogger if they take over Google.
And a Google disruption can mean only one thing: Invasion.
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
Blogs and Usenet - that's what Micro$oft is after... The Usenet archive and Blogger worth a lot and that's why they'll try to take over Google..
Just because I don't care, it doesn't mean I don't understand. Homer J. Simpson
It looks like Microsoft grand scheem for taking over the world is not going as planned with everything under one area integrated as one. But the real question is which segment will go away first the MSN or the Tools (I hope the tools), I meen by breaking them up it allows them to kill off one and not the other without making both look bad.
As for the blogs I really dont care eather way. This is not a supper killer feature it is one of Microsoft standerd things that make them say "Hey I'm Cool, I'm With it" type of thing. Even though Microsoft won the browser war. They were not able to get a strong foot hold in Internet Technologies. So the Blogging is one of those features are a so what anyone can program that.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Been there, Done that.. Yet another non-innovation.. Quartz Extreme (apple.com) has been in MacOSX for more then a year now. (thats 2 generations in OS years)
It's only a matter of time before MSN messenger becomes a paid service. Once enough people become dependent on it, they might be willing to pay a small subscription fee for it. I suspect microsoft is waiting for that.
Microsoft Chairman and Chief Software Architect Bill Gates said Microsoft will spend about $6.8 billion on research and development this year.
Amazing... they can spend all this money (without hardware R&D like Apple) and still don't get anywhere near MacOSX in terms of userfriendlyness.
I always wondered : do MS programmers/unit managers get a bonus for every feature they come up with ? In the past 10 years, bloat has been the only constant in redmond IMHO
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Great, now they're going to steal the idea of a weblog, which Slashdot was the originator of.
I can see it now:
MS-Slashdot
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Bill Gates is evil!
SCO is evil!
RIAA is evil!
Fox is evil!
and of course...
Sex!
It's been quite a long time since I've been able to be quite so indignant!
Blogs are Microsoft Research?
This just seems like a relatively trivial application-level chunk of code. But then I suppose any technologies existing anywhere which Microsoft wishes to integrate into the operating system are best-marketed as coming from "research". Observing as R&D... enviable position.
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http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/29/14 21223&mode=thread&tid=109&tid=187
My HTML skills really suck, sorry for not formatting it, but it was the first thing to jump into my head when I read the article.
Yup...
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Just think about making notes on a project, recording all that misc data that you tell yourself to remember but never do - and right there, in the browser and one click away, is a full featured web server. All my downloaded files go into one repository along with HTML-ized notes on when and why and even a copy of the website if I want it. It's trivial to do because the wiki does all the work according to my configs.
The best part is the wiki markup. This is something that ALL WEBSITES (hint hint) should make part of their text entry fields. Why use <b> when I can just type **bold text**? Or <i> when //italicized text// is so much quicker and easier? The mozilla people realized this ages ago as well, but apparently these lessons are lost on SOTA websites like /. ;)
But I guess the crew at /. have more to worry about than text entry features, what with all those ERROR 500 server errors...
Kind of cool seeing 5 Microsoft articles on the front page, you can't say /. doesn't cover MS, even if 90% of the comments modded up are negative.
on when their blog will suffer a critical security exploit?
I don't see why Microsoft is handing out more matches while trying to put out their own fires...
-Phil
Shoot questions, first ask later...
Their marketing division must be drunk. 'Wallop'? 'SHell'?
There's a growing sense that even if The Future comes,
most of us won't be able to afford it.
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FYI: Apple ALREADY integrated the iBlog software (free with
[doesn't every
Animoog.org
without going to far into it, heres what apple has to say about their technology. Any MacOSX user can attest to this providing real tangible benifits on their system From the Apple link in the parent post: (yea it's marketing, but it's not false) "Quartz uses the integrated OpenGL technology to convert each window into a texture, then sends it to the graphics card to render on screen..." "Quartz Extreme uses a supported graphics card built into your Mac to relieve the main PowerPC chip of on screen calculations. This dramatically improves system performance..." Of course the CPU is involved however, QE is CPU independent as the requirements are for a GPU... "Quartz Extreme functionality is supported by the following video GPUs: NVIDIA GeForce2 MX, GeForce3, GeForce4 MX, or GeForce4 Ti or any AGP-based ATI RADEON GPU. A minimum of 16MB VRAM is required." This is all moot, since no windows user will have longhorn (legally) in their hands for another 12+ months or so, please let me know when some Linux distro gets around to it too.. -fugoo
..continues.
people, it doesn't matter what they announce longhorn to have at this point! they don't even take them(features set&announced) seriously themselfs yet, such features(as this) that are pretty simple to add in mere weeks or month s time don't really matter if they're announced or not.
it's not really new to them(ms&some other companies) to announce things and then quietly drop it later once they've stalled for long enough that nobody even remembers what cool stuff there were supposed to be in it.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
Whoah, looks like you've just innovatinoned a new word! Congrats!
MSN is being split into two subdivisions
Called MICROSO~1.MSN and MICROSO~2.MSN ?
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Not a great many home users currently use their computer as a webserver, although that's certainly possible. But I shudder a little bit to think that every grandma in the country will be running a blog on the IIS built into their computer, and leaving it on on their broadband connection 24/7, since now they have something to serve.
Won't this magnify the security issues surrounding MSFT's web serving software? Although it will help to inflate IIS's marketshare, too, once 95% of 200 million people start using it for their home based sites...
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...and entire testing staff gets fired for trying it out. Cats make excellent snipers.
Stories invloving MS on Slashdot so far today:
Google Considering Merger With Microsoft
Microsoft's new CLI
Gates: 'You don't need perfect code' for Security
Microsoft Adding Blogs to Longhorn?
I suppose next we'll have another Halloween Document and the day will be complete
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Blogs are an integral part of the OS.
...by the time Longhorn comes out the whole blog thing will have died. Here's a sample from a CNN article a few weeks ago....
There are over 4 million blogs on the net, more than half run by teenagers. Research group Perseus says the typical blog is written by a teenage girl who updates it about twice a month. Sites such as Diaryland and Blogspot make it easy for anyone to launch one. Even AOL is hosting web logs, a sign that this trend has hit the big time. There are predictions the net will be littered with 5 million blogs by the end of the year. But unlike www.bigwhiteguy.com most of them will be little seen, if not abandoned. At least two thirds of the blogs out there today have not been updated in months.
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"Microsoft Adding Bugs to Longhorn?"
Microsoft is talking about all this new funtionality thats going to be put into longhorn. Although these features sound great, shouldn't they decide on a feature set and then work to make it stable?
With open source development features seem to be "planned", not just stuck in so they can include buzzwords in their advertising. By MS incorporating all of these features which, IMO most probably could just be at the application level, they will be adding bugs all over the place.
Now security bugs are the worst because they compromise your personal information but I find it really annoying when something doesn't work the way it should. With all of these pieces interacting with each other how easy to use is long horn going to really be? How many of the features are going to work fully and how many are just going to break other ones? When do we draw the line? What features are actually useful to an OS? Don't you think by incorportating all of these things within the OS itself MS is actually taking away 3rd party opportunities. Can't this be done at the application level? Why not release a MS Blogger so for us who might want to use it, we'll go get it. For the rest, they can choose to not run one at all or one of their choice?
Remember "set program access and defaults"? I can imagine microsoft having to add last minute hacks in so that we can actually use our own software.
Maybe they are planning to add security by only allowing their code to run on it. Pretty soon our computers will be contacting a microsoft address to be granted priviliages to run your own code. Sometimes i hear people complaining that linux distros are full of bloat but c'mon. A blogger in an OS? Why?
Because it's just me I use the access database version, which makes it a breeze to backup. In fact, after several migrations I've yet to lose ANYTHING, and that includes the ass-large flat directory where all my misc. downloads are stored.
It should also be fairly trivial to migrate. I'm still hoping to find something I can run without having a dedicated box to host it (I use an old recycled 200MHz vectra) and when I do, "migration" should be little more than migrating the database fields to the new system.
OpenWiki is pretty powerful. It uses css and xml and is very modular, which makes it way easy to modify. Unfortunately it seems to be abandonware, and I don't like it enough to learn how EVERY little detail works so a couple of features I really, really want I cannot add. And, frankly, I've never found another wiki engine that has all the features I have already, so moving to another platform means I not only have to start from scratch, I have to learn new code as well.
I'm hoping the project that was mentioned here a while back as part of the gnome desktop will mature enough that I can jump in with both feet. When I read the description at the site it looked like he already had much of the stuff I want to add to mine (automatic logging of every URL and cataloging the pages in a searchable database - like a personal history google, for one) so I've been giving some serious thought to jumping in there.
The problem with that so far has been my main machine, a 1.6GHz AMD, has some serious issues with every linux distro I've tried to install on it! I'm sure it's a motherboard issue, and it runs every version of windows just fine. But you gotta hold your mouth just so to even get it where it will reboot after the first step of a redhat install, so I ain't screwing with it until I decide on a new motherboard. And that ain't happening until I save the pennies for one of those cool new 6MP SLR Digital Rebels.
Then I bet I can really start filling up that database...
sheesh, the umpteen article yet about our beloved microsoft.
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Just because MS is researching something doesn't mean it's going to be in Longhorn... check out Pastry.
We wouldn't know what to do without blogging integrated into our OS.
That's "Mr. Soulless Automaton" to you, Bub.
Ya.. right
because when longhorn is released in 2-3 years blogs wont be a fad anymore
whatEVER
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Let's create a phony standard, premote the hell out of it, and see how long it takes Microsoft to say they are implementing it.
Buzzwords for Buzzbrains.
Political correctness is the newest form of slavery.
Excellent! I just have to wait until 2006 to start my blog! ...or, I could download Movable Type today. Of course, I'd miss out on all the great wizards if I did that.
"It looks like you are trying to write a Microsoft-bashing post! Would you like me to manually delete it for you, or do you want your Windows license to be revoked?"
Is this rock and roll, or a form of state control?
For the record, it's "Lili Cheng" not Chang.
The last couple of days have produced a flood of LongHorn related FUD being propigated around the media ... it hasn't been covered here at Slashdot yet, but I read a few interesting items yesterday ...
... a special key stroke on the keyboard will cause your computer to dispense ice cream from the floppy drive.
... with LongHorn, the cd-tray will be able to accept and grill hamburger patties.
... these are just a few of the major points I've seen going around.
-- Microsoft research has yielded a new feature which will be included in LongHorn
-- Microsoft research has also found a way to incorporate a george foreman grill directly into the operating system. Users will no longer need to purchase a separate piece of hardware
-- In another Microsoft research innovation, LongHorn will be able to determine the users emotions and can react accordingly. For example, if the user is feeling sad, LongHorn will emit cute furry kittens, to the user's delight, from various fan ports in the case. Some newer model PC's will support puppies as well.
I'm sure there's more
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For those of you new to computing, this isn't a new concept.
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Enjoy,
It's just the normal noises in here.
I hope search engines have an option to uncheck searching within such things before this goes mainstream.
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What is up with the torrent of Longhorn stories on /. lately? The product is at least two, and more likely three, years away!
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/.? I already know what I think, you draw your own conclusions.
From the Jargon file:
vaporware:
Products announced far in advance of any release (which may or may not actually take place).
It's vaporware!
Is the frequency of these stories in any way influenced by the fact that Microsoft is a frequent advertiser on
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - BF
I refuse to believe I was the only one who misread that as "Microsoft Adding Bugs to Longhorn?" and thought "geez, aren't there enough already?"
I for one welcome our new stale overlords.
Suck figs.
.... that MS is market testing possibilities of what to add to longhorn. Which amounts to the request for comments and other ideas and specifics issues... They will then sekll back to you and those who gave in the request.
Integration. Next they'll be telling us you can't remove the blogging software since it's part of the OS and would make it non-functional
Am i the only one who needs an OS and not every application ever written? Sure MS can and should make applications too but why cram them into the OS with a hammer and vaseline? A more modular approach would benefit everyone in the long run.
I dont think MS is capable of imagening themselves being able to compete on merits. They are so tuned into forcefeeding people that they have forgotten hoeto listen to their customers and deliver what they want.
This constant bundling and tight integration of apps into the OS is getting silly.
HTTP/1.1 400
Oh great so now there will be an advertisement on the bottom of every blog post? Like all those advertisements I get on the bottom of emails from Hotmail people.
Just like Microsoft to turn something virtually free, with such an open community spirit, into something branded-up-the-whazoo to generate revenue for them....
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not sure if anyone else mentioned this, but by the time longhorn actually comes out, blogging will be old news... and something else will take it's place..
Kyle
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...that Microsft was adding bugs to Longhorn.
I am not sure the Inertia biz model will work here. The reason is that it takes two or more to tango before IM is useful. If your friend(s) has switched to a free service like Jabber, then what are you going to do?
Follow or Pay MS plus try and convince your friend to do likewise?
Help fight continental drift.
With Windows '98 Microsoft was proudly proclaiming that they integrated the browser with the OS, thus unifying and enhancing the user experience. I remember hearing stupid quotes like "The browser is the OS" and other crap from these days.
Microsoft said that because in '98, surfing the web was supposedely the coolest thing around. Today weblogs are considered cool, so Microsoft goes that way. They just want to make the "average" user eager to pay them to get the new "cool" features.
Personally I don't expect anything exciting from Longhorn's weblogging features.
I'll assume MS will have an acceptable use policy, which will include not posting purchased Mac photos?
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and this from a company who, a decade ago, said the internet was going nowhere.
1. Wait for something to become interesting.
2. Copy it yourself and roll into your operating system monopoly.
3. Profit!
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What's the big idea putting blogs in longhorn?
Next thing you know they'll call it Bloghorn ! And that's just a little, I say, a little TOO close for comfort.
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Now Microsoft doesn't just want to know everything about the hardware on your machine, no...they want to know your most intimate personal thoughts! They will glean the blog entries of their user base and use peoples' deepest fears and desires to further enhance their market stranglehold! Muahahahaaaaaa!! Ahhahahaaaaa!! Haaaah*choke, cough, splutter*
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.. we would all be running Dashboard and Storage.
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Oddly enough, /wallop is an IRC command. Seems fitting enough for Microsoft to steal, and then "coin" the term.
I misread that as "Microsoft adding bloat to Longhorn", and thought what's new about that? Guess I have been reading /. too long ;p
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