Netcraft Jokes About SCO's Virus Fears

Bombs away! by shystershep · 2004-01-31 09:07 · Score: 5, Funny

I for one welcome our new "previously unknown Linux Thought Leader" overlord!

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Re:Bombs away! by JPriest · 2004-01-31 10:21 · Score: 1

I feel welcome, they are going to remove the A record for www.sco.com before the attack. sco.com will remain pointed to 216.250.128.12
This is the same think MS did when they removed windowsupdate.com

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Re:Bombs away! by c1ay · 2004-01-31 10:57 · Score: 2, Funny

According to Netcraft SCO has converted their webserver from Linux to NetBSD/OpenBSD. I suspect it was Caldera Linux they were running on and they probably felt their software sucked to bad to weather the impending DDos attack.

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Fourth solution is even funnier than the third... by bc90021 · 2004-01-31 09:10 · Score: 4, Funny

...and that makes me wonder if the editor only read that far. ;)

"Entire set of infected Windows machines is reached and either comes up running Debian or crashes stone dead trying. No denial of service attack occurs. SCO sends licence fee demands to owners of all the previously infected windows machines. They happily pay up and SCO splits the proceeds with Slashdot readers."

(And yes, I read the whole thing. ;) )

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www.sco.com hosted on FreeBSD by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · 2004-01-31 09:11 · Score: 3, Funny

Consequences: SCO Executives buy a small business shared hosting account at Yahoo, noting that it runs on FreeBSD, not Linux, and point www.sco.com at the new account.

Makes sense, Unixware and FreeBSD have much in common, according to Netcraft. Can you guess what they have in common?

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Re:www.sco.com hosted on FreeBSD by Metasquares · 2004-01-31 09:36 · Score: 4, Funny

No, but I'm sure Darl's already hard at work.
Re:www.sco.com hosted on FreeBSD by norsk_hedensk · 2004-01-31 11:19 · Score: 1

ummm, troll?
Re:www.sco.com hosted on FreeBSD by hoytt · 2004-01-31 11:36 · Score: 2, Funny

They're both dying?

Hey now.... by BWJones · 2004-01-31 09:11 · Score: 4, Informative

From the article: Spend Saturday soaking up the totally awesome graphics on the Stealth bomber flight simulators, and then obliterate most of Utah, sco.com name servers and all, on Sunday morning hours before the DDoS is due to hit Slashdot. SCO Execs still laughing themselves helpless about the /. Effect when the bomb hits.

Hey now, not everybody in Utah is a SCO exec or a polygamyist. I suppose this is the toll that association takes however, even if that association is geographic as opposed to ideological, political or religious. Believe it or not, there are good things to come out of Utah, such as much of the technology responsible for computer graphics, some kickin' genetics research, some of the best skiing in the world, good beer, and last but not least, is the home of computational molecular phenotyping. :-)

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Re:Hey now.... by The_Barnacle · 2004-01-31 09:19 · Score: 1

They also have some of the best mountain biking in the world. You best not be nukin' that stuff.
Re:Hey now.... by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · 2004-01-31 09:29 · Score: 5, Informative

some kickin' genetics research [utah.edu]

No wonder, they have a rather large population with a very coherent DNA to study there :-)

(Yes, I'm half-joking, and no I'm not flaming. Utah folks are nice overall, but it's true that polygamy was practiced there up to 100 years ago mainly to populate Utah as quickly as possible from the small band of initial settlers. Those who've been to Utah know the proportion of white blond-haired blue-eyed people bearing the same last name there is quite staggering. Sweden looks cosmopolitan compared to Utah).

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Re:Hey now.... by BWJones · 2004-01-31 09:32 · Score: 1

They also have some of the best mountain biking in the world. You best not be nukin' that stuff.

Very true. I suppose I could have included a link to Moab, but the whole state is covered with places to go mountain biking. Everything from stunning single track across the Wasatch range with unbelieveable mountain valley vistas to desert trecks through slickrock and high desert.

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Re:Hey now.... by The_Barnacle · 2004-01-31 09:44 · Score: 1

The funny thing is I went to college in Utah and my freshman year I had a roomate everyone called 'Rosco P. Coltrane'. And yes, there are tons of blond hair blue eyed people hanging around there.
Re:Hey now.... by big_groo · 2004-01-31 09:46 · Score: 1

"some of the best skiing in the world..."
Not even close, pal.
Re:Hey now.... by soloport · 2004-01-31 10:15 · Score: 1

Thanks. Now I don't have to feel so bad about living here.

Hey! While you're extolling the virtues of this place, why not enjoy a nice, cold refreshing Polygamy Porter?
Re:Hey now.... by BillyBlaze · 2004-01-31 10:16 · Score: 3, Informative

Seriously, though. According to the recent PBS special on DNA, a breast cancer predisposition gene was found largely thanks to very the complete family records that Mormons keep as a matter of faith.
Re:Hey now.... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-01-31 10:22 · Score: 1, Insightful

One of her first statements getting off the plane was "damn, look at all the white people"

No doubt she was black and took offense at there being a place on earth where there all races are equally present. I mean there just can't be more white people around than there are black people unless there's some discrimination going on...

I went from a high school that was 60% asian to a college that was over 90% white. It surprised me to see all the white people walking around. I had almost the exact same reaction as the girl above and I'm white. It was an observation and has nothing to do with being racist or prejudice or whatever.
Re:Hey now.... by machinegunben · 2004-01-31 10:36 · Score: 1

S&S Power Amusements Company is based in Utah. They've made lots of coasters and thrill towers around the US.

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Re:Hey now.... by daves · 2004-01-31 10:50 · Score: 1

there are good things to come out of Utah, such as ...

and remember cold fusion.

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Re:Hey now.... by iantri · 2004-01-31 11:57 · Score: 4, Interesting

Scientists have also found the same thing about Newfoundland (though they didn't practice polygamy, they are an island and didn't join Canada until 1949 so have a pretty bland gene pool)..
It's population has been very helpful in researching genetic diseases (of which Newfoundland has a huge problem with, due to lack of variety in the gene pool).
Re:Hey now.... by MechaStreisand · 2004-01-31 13:01 · Score: 1, Insightful

Things are getting better as far as diversity goes...
Exactly why is diversity better? Is there something wrong with having a primarily Mormon state that needs to be "improved" upon? Or is it that white people are not allowed to have their own place with their own distinct culture?

Would you say that a place like Japan or India needs to be improved with diversity?

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Re:Hey now.... by thedeadlus · 2004-01-31 13:51 · Score: 1

We might lack variety in our gene pool, but unlike a fair ammount of other people in Canada, the USA, and particularly Redmond, we aren't idiots. We're more of Linux types of people. We can't find something that works for us, we fashion something together that will fit our needs.
Re:Hey now.... by BWJones · 2004-01-31 14:04 · Score: 3, Insightful

Exactly why is diversity better?

You seem to be making this a racial issue when it really is not. However, to understand why diversity is oftentimes better, you should read a little biology. Or since this is Slashdot, read about monoculture in computing and discover why we have so many problems with virii and worms. But if you are speaking culturally, lets talk food. Traditional Utah cuisine sucks. Vegetables are overdone, meats are cooked to within an inch of bone dry, there is no alcohol in foods to carry flavors to the olfactory system etc...etc...etc... I myself love a variety of foods and I cannot count on a bunch of white boys to provide them all the time. If you are talking arts, pioneer handicraft can only go so far. If you are talking music, come on now, get real. If you are talking science, progress without diversity of thought and scientific input goes nowhere.

Is there something wrong with having a primarily Mormon state that needs to be "improved" upon?

Apparently from Utah history, the Mormon church wanted to be a part of the United States and thus become a part of the greater union of states. This tells me they wanted other benefits associated with being a state and did not want a Mormon monoculture. (Also, from what I hear, the Mormon church is expanding quite rapidly in other nations around the world in cultures that are not necessarily white.) If you want to be a state and accept federal tax dollars, then you have to be willing to be a part of the greater diversity that has made the United States unique in the modern world.

Or is it that white people are not allowed to have their own place with their own distinct culture?

Sure they can. Nobody is saying that cannot occur. But if you live in the United States of America, there are some things that you need to be aware of: The Constitution of the United States, The Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independance should be the first three things you read. After that, read up on other aspects of democracy, issues of statehood, and some court cases such as Brown vs. Board.

Would you say that a place like Japan or India needs to be improved with diversity?

You have not been to Japan or India have you?............

You might be surprised at the diversity in those cultures, but more to the point, those countries do not have the same history of law as does the United States. Specifically, we (U.S. citizens) have a little amendment to our Constitution. The 15th to be precise that states "Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude." And in Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation." This amendment specified a precedent that has carried through to other aspects of our culture besides voting to include issues of discrimination in the work place, in housing etc....

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Re:Hey now.... by LauraW · 2004-01-31 14:13 · Score: 1

Utah folks are nice overall, but it's true that polygamy was practiced there up to 100 years ago mainly to populate Utah as quickly as possible from the small band of initial settlers.
This being slashdot and all, I'm surprised nobody has asked yet: What's wrong with polygamy? As long as everyone's a consenting adult, what's the problem?
Re:Hey now.... by Pharmboy · 2004-01-31 14:55 · Score: 1

This being slashdot and all, I'm surprised nobody has asked yet: What's wrong with polygamy? As long as everyone's a consenting adult, what's the problem?

Whats wrong with polygamy? The same thing that is wrong with prostitution and drug use: Nothing. It just offers the government yet another method to control individuals by making activies illegal based upon the morality of a few, rather than because of any ill effects it has on society as a whole. I am still of the belief that if an activity does not adversely affect others, then the government has no interest regulating it. (ie: smoking a joint hurts no one, driving stoned does) I can't see the harm to the community that polygamy causes.

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Re:Hey now.... by stephanruby · 2004-01-31 15:12 · Score: 2, Funny

we aren't idiots.
Yep. That's right. Keep on repeating it. You might start believing it.
Re:Hey now.... by thedeadlus · 2004-01-31 15:50 · Score: 1

Hey, at least I'm not an ignorant american that stuffs his mouth all day on McDicko's and Cola. Our PM doesn't go and say some country has WoMD and then turns around several months later to ask who in his cabinet gave him faulty intel. That's just the government caught with it's pants down and looking for a scapegoat. And not being part of that is as good as it gets in my book.
Re:Hey now.... by fucksl4shd0t · 2004-01-31 17:21 · Score: 1

Supposing there is an eligible young woman, it would be more procreatively efficient to marry her off to an energetic twenty-something guy than a fifty or sixty year old geezer with an already overlarge harem
Not true! Not true. That old geezer with 30 wives can sire 30 babies in 1-year intervals. That means that in 3 years he can sire 90 babies (assuming a 3-month break for each woman after a baby is born, of course), and he only has to get laid every day of the month! Heaven Forbid!
In any case, you could make the case that having 30 men distributed amongst those 30 women would have worked great, but you're leaving a few steps out. Those 30 kids from the first year, assume that many of them are girls, when they grow up, they'll be married off to other 60-year-old geezers (yes, I'm ignoring the fact that 60 years old in the 19th century in the Old West meant burial) who would be the other younger saps you mentioned. That means the genes will get passed around. Diversifying the spread of the genepool is the goal of polygamy, as well as parallel baby birthing. Sure, you get a bunch of kids with the same dad, but you can pass them around and after a few generations you wind up with a much more diverse genepool with what you had available than you otherwise would have.
That said, now this:
The Mormon culture as a whole suffers from a stark aristocratic view of itself, which is why they always strike the rest of the world as being snobs. This is what leads to the other things in your post:
But due to the artificial shortage created by the "monopolistic practices" of certain favored individuals, many young men had to go on missions just to find and convert eligible young women.
That's the practice of an aristocracy, plain and simple. See, the mormon aristocracy can't exist without all the 'inferior' religions in the world, because then there wouldn't be anybody left for them to be better than!

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Re:Hey now.... by fucksl4shd0t · 2004-01-31 17:24 · Score: 1

What's wrong with polygamy? As long as everyone's a consenting adult, what's the problem?
It's blatantly sexist in previous incarnations. That's all. The idea that one man can have many wives, but any given woman can only have one husband. I realize there are biological reasons to justify it, but it's still wrong in that incarnation.
Now, if you want to talk about Heinlein's ideas of marriage, I'm all for that. Many husbands, many wives. Sounds great! Too bad our country is populated by a bunch of jealous freaks... Marriage as possession is slavery. Marriage as partnership is liberty. :) (Guess which type of marriage I've got)

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Re:Hey now.... by Malcontent · 2004-01-31 19:50 · Score: 1

What exactly does the white people culture consist of anyway? Country Music?

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Re:Hey now.... by kubrick · 2004-01-31 23:30 · Score: 1

Would you say that a place like Japan or India needs to be improved with diversity?

Given Japan's extremely racist immigration laws, hell yeah. (There are Korean families who have been there for generations who still don't qualify for Japanese citizenship.)

Dunno about India though... it's already pretty diverse, and doesn't seem to have as xenophobic a culture as Japan.

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Re:Hey now.... by hummassa · 2004-02-01 00:23 · Score: 1

Guess which type of marriage I've got
based on your nick? hmmm... none? :-)

disclaimer: this was a joke, not a personal attack. I don't know you, but, considering the forum, you deserved it, don't you think? :-)

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Re:Hey now.... by fucksl4shd0t · 2004-02-01 00:54 · Score: 1

Heh, no disclaimer needed. Go check out my website, I can take a joke. :)
My wife actually thinks my nickname is childish. She's probably right. But that doesn't mean I'm going to change it, I like having a nick like this and a maxed out karma rating. It's a pleasant irony, I think.

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Re:Hey now.... by mojine · 2004-02-01 08:09 · Score: 1

and hows your swedish spelling? ...
Idiot

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Re:Hey now.... by stephanruby · 2004-02-02 07:07 · Score: 1

Hey, at least I'm not an ignorant american that stuffs his mouth all day on McDicko's and Cola...
Me neither. I have dual citizenship. I am French-American. I don't go to McDs. I don't drink soda or juice. I don't have a TV. And I am aware, unlike most Americans, that the head of the CIA went on the record before the war stating that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction and had stopped its program a long time ago.
The only reason I took a pot shot at you was because your original post was arrogant and insulting and it had no reason to be. Noone had insulted you and noone had even taken a contrary viewpoint to yours. Apparently, the moderators agreed and that's why my cheap shot was moderated up as funny when it probably shouldn't have been.
Take care,

Not necessarily a Linux enthusiast... by GameGod0 · 2004-01-31 09:12 · Score: 5, Insightful

Maybe the person who wrote the virus is trying to tackle the real virus - SCO's lawsuits.

Seriously, SCO's DOSing every Linux user's stress level...

Re:Not necessarily a Linux enthusiast... by Rick+and+Roll · 2004-01-31 10:09 · Score: 1

I for one have never been stressed by SCO's BS. Even if they're right (about their initial claim, not the "millions of lines" claim), the most they could do is force it to be removed, or sue the people that misappropriated it in the first place. IBM could lose a lot of money, but that would just open it up for other Linux contractors such as after I graduate, myself. Besides I don't really think IBM is going to lose. They have been in the legal game a lot longer than SCO has.
Re:Not necessarily a Linux enthusiast... by hummassa · 2004-02-01 00:26 · Score: 1

Linus has the best quote: "they are wrong in so many levels", ...

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If I had a Nickle by moehoward · 2004-01-31 09:12 · Score: 2

If they posted a slashdot story for every joke made about SCO, well, something!!

Anyway, I'll submit my 50 SCO jokes as stories. I didn't know there was such a shortage.

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What Synergy! by digitalvengeance · 2004-01-31 09:12 · Score: 3, Funny

From the article: "SCO Execs point www.sco.com at the loopback address 127.0.0.1, end lawsuits, dismiss lawyers, and invest remaining corporate cash reserves in call options in Dell & Microsoft stock."

Since when do SCO and Verisign share corporate strategy for "net presence management?" Now that's synergy in action!

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Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by Dreadlord · 2004-01-31 09:14 · Score: 2, Insightful

(And yes, I read the whole thing. ;) )

Are you sure you read this one? ;)

Solution 5: SCO Execs point www.sco.com at the loopback address 127.0.0.1, end lawsuits, dismiss lawyers, and invest remaining corporate cash reserves in call options in Dell & Microsoft stock.

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NO, IT'S NOT! by Anonymous Coward · 2004-01-31 09:14 · Score: 1, Funny

Why not take the time to make a really insightful comment?

They don't need a DDoS by sbennett · 2004-01-31 09:16 · Score: 5, Interesting

Looking at their uptime stats, a DDoS wouldn't really make much difference.

Re:They don't need a DDoS by queen+of+everything · 2004-01-31 09:31 · Score: 1

Their uptime isn't too too bad, 121 days, they just can't stick to an OS...they're preparing for the attack. Netcraft predicted it well #1 wins!

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Re:They don't need a DDoS by sbennett · 2004-01-31 09:39 · Score: 1

they just can't stick to an OS

True- and half of those have been Linux. Take a look at the bottom of that page. Well, I suppose they're `allowed' to use it.
Re:They don't need a DDoS by Pikhq · 2004-01-31 12:56 · Score: 2, Interesting

Technically, since they have broken the GPL, they now need permission from every person who has put any code into Linux.

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Re:They don't need a DDoS by thisgooroo · 2004-01-31 16:40 · Score: 1

sorry, but the GPL deals with redistribution issues, not use
Re:They don't need a DDoS by garwain · 2004-02-01 00:34 · Score: 1

I could just be the constant posting of slashdot articals...
Re:They don't need a DDoS by Pikhq · 2004-02-01 07:42 · Score: 1

The GPL is the only thing granting them the right to use it.

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Point it to... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-01-31 09:21 · Score: 4, Funny

Why not just put multiple A records on the sco domain, as to spread the load across multiple servers. Besides, there will be enough traffic to take down many, many sites. Here's a short list, in order of importance...

kernel.org (and its mirrors)
groklaw.net
ibm.com
redhat.com
suse.c om
novell.com
sourceforge.net
slashdot.org
lin ux.com
apple.com
sco.org (When we're finished, we'll be all you can see)

Re:Point it to... by arpy · 2004-01-31 23:32 · Score: 1

sco.org (When we're finished, we'll be all you can see)
Sco.org?:
Since 1897 St. Christopher-Ottilie has been providing a helping hand for the most vulnerable among us. From our early beginnings as Long Island's Country Home for Convalescent Babies, to the complex continuum of care that is St. Christopher-Ottilie today, we have been there to help children and families for more than 100 years.
Taking down St. Christopher-Ottilie? You really are an evil bastard!

Netcraft used to track websites? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-01-31 09:22 · Score: 4, Insightful

I thought Netcraft kept tabs on what webservers were used on the Internet? But now they are a news site taking sides in the SCO vs Linux argument?

What happened?

Re:Netcraft used to track websites? by EvilTwinSkippy · 2004-01-31 10:43 · Score: 1

What happened?
SCO pissed off most of the free world.
Their wiffle score is so low that automatic doors would stop working for them in the Bitchen Society.

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Re:Netcraft used to track websites? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-01-31 10:45 · Score: 1, Interesting

It is an interesting idea about what is considered debatable. "The moon landing was fake" is one of those things. At the point something becomes undebatable it becomes a joke. You will then see so called "unbiased" or more "formal" people use jokes involving the undebatable. This joking is not as much taking a position on the issue as it is an acknowledgment of undebatable status/ humor availability of the topic.

I am very interested in how ideas move across and behind the line that is "the debatable" and when this unfolds in internet time it is fun to watch. I think SCO is well on the way to becoming a cultural "fake moon landing" and undebatable.

In other words SCO is becoming a joke. This is a good and bad thing.
Re:Netcraft used to track websites? by kfg · 2004-01-31 15:20 · Score: 2, Insightful

No. They didn't take sides in the SCO vs. Linux debate, per se.

They poked fun at SCO executives (read Darl) response to the virus, their business record and their historical inability to handle a high traffic load.

Along the way they made copious fun of the Linux community, Slashdot, Hemos, Microsoft, Windows users, et al.

And it was funny.

KFG

Netcraft confirms by Freston+Youseff · 2004-01-31 09:23 · Score: 5, Funny

Fact: *Santa Cruz Operations is dying.

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Re:Netcraft confirms by jgoemat · 2004-02-01 20:41 · Score: 1

Who are they? Do you mean "The SCO Group"? I don't think the letters S C O stand for anything anymore.

Will this virus really make a difference to SCO??? by jazzmanjac · 2004-01-31 09:24 · Score: 5, Interesting

By looking at the Netcraft Sco Uptime chart it doesn't seem that uptime on their website is a priority. Who goes to sco.com anyway, except for us nerds on a link from slashdot? I imagine most support is done via telephone, as is the case with most other operating systems.

The whole front page of SCO's website is dedictated to the virus. If you were running SCO you wouldn't have this problem, so why is it freatured on their website? Probably just fodder for the next lawsuit is my guess.

J.

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Congratulations Mike by arivanov · 2004-01-31 09:24 · Score: 4, Informative

Congratulations to Mike Peterjohn.

Who in btw is a founder and one of the Netcraft executives. So dunno about the dogfood. I wish other company CTOs could post dogfood like that.

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Re:Congratulations Mike by lseltzer · 2004-01-31 10:29 · Score: 1

It's Mike "Prettejohn"

Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by vsprintf · 2004-01-31 09:26 · Score: 1

...and that makes me wonder if the editor only read that far. ;)

Everyone will have a favorite solution. That article is the funniest thing I've read in a long time. I laughed all the way through it. They were all great.

You know you're unpopular when by Space+cowboy · 2004-01-31 09:26 · Score: 5, Funny

... the entire world starts to DDOS you, to see if an expected DDOS is taking place yet [huge grin :-] ... A company that monitors uptime starts a deathwatch on your site ... That same company publically ridicules you on their homepage :-)

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Looks like they chose Solution 2 by marsu_k · 2004-01-31 09:28 · Score: 5, Interesting

PING www.sco.com (216.250.128.12) 56(84) bytes of data.
--- www.sco.com ping statistics ---
34 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 33048ms

Re:Looks like they chose Solution 2 by Simon+Lyngshede · 2004-01-31 09:38 · Score: 1

Just a few hours ago I got 127.0.0.1 when trying to lookup sco.com. Im not sure it wasn't just my dns server acting all funny, but I actually thought that is was their solution.
Re:Looks like they chose Solution 2 by gcaseye6677 · 2004-01-31 09:49 · Score: 1

That's funny, I just got to the sco.com website, which has been down a lot over the last few days. I must be using a cached DNS entry, but their page actually came up and across the top in big letters there is an advisory to "Protect yourself from MyDoom virus" along with tips like not opening random email attachments, etc. They're making it look like they actually care about keeping their site up.
Re:Looks like they chose Solution 2 by randomblast · 2004-01-31 10:13 · Score: 2, Informative

um, ok solution 2 - take www.sco.com out of DNS, right? but your ping returned an IP address. and it proves nothing except the fact that their server does not respond to ICMP echoes, which is a common practice. Starting nmap 3.45 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2004-01-31 21:57 GMT Interesting ports on www.sco.com (216.250.128.12): PORT STATE SERVICE 7/tcp filtered echo 80/tcp open http Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 13.062 seconds

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Re:Looks like they chose Solution 2 by rjch · 2004-01-31 16:51 · Score: 1

No, it looks like Feb 1st has arrived. At least it has in Australia, New Zealand and many places close to the international date line...

Re:Damn thing's already slow. by Anonymous Coward · 2004-01-31 09:33 · Score: 1, Insightful

It loads just fine for me. You need karma bad, hmm?

Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by Elektroschock · 2004-01-31 09:33 · Score: 4, Funny

Well, the bomb on Utah? Aren't they all Christians in Utah? So I leave it to the Lord to punish SCO. Eternal doom proposed.

Yahoo! small business account? by GMan00 · 2004-01-31 09:39 · Score: 5, Interesting

At LWE, while tabling for NYC *BSD User Group, someone from SCO approached me.

I asked him his thoughts about SCO's foolish crusade, and he said, "Hey, we would have been out of business in December if they didn't."

So I guess Solution Number 1 may be plausible for fiscal reasons also.

Re:Yahoo! small business account? by Wolfrider · 2004-02-01 03:27 · Score: 1

> Hey, we would have been out of business in December if they didn't.

--Somebody remind me - this would be a "bad" thing HOW?

Which is Better:

o To die quietly and (somewhat) dignified, shutting the doors and hoping that perhaps someone, someday, might remember your contributions from the past with fondness**

o Or have your reputation and credibility **completely and irreparably** trashed, while pissing on everyone associated with Linux -- and LOUDLY pursuing a false and damaging crusade -- for the sake of a few dollars?

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Darl: "Oy, prop the corpse up and try to look busy while I go rant to the media with more blatant lies about Linux!"

Community: "NUKE HIM!!"

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** I did install Caldera once, a long time ago. They were the first distro where you could play a game (Tetris?) during the install, which was pretty impressive at the time.

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Linux Enthusiasts Rejoice! by Basehart · 2004-01-31 09:40 · Score: 3, Interesting

Hopefully people who use Linux won't be denegrated as mere Fans, Fanatics or Enthusiasts for too much longer, as Macintosh users have been for years, now that the big boys are putting out ads backing the "OS that could".

This morning I saw my first Linux ad on TV, sponsored by IBM. The theme, a young child showing up all over the World and a voiceover saying something to the effect of "the child is growing up".

The combination of ads promoting Linux, and the $250,00 bounties offered by those who would prefer it dead and buried, just might finally be opening the public's eyes to what's going on in Lindon and Redmond these days!

SCO Site Search by CdBee · 2004-01-31 09:41 · Score: 4, Funny

Search for: Liars And Thieves *** Sorry, but search returned no results. Try to compose less restrictive search query or check spelling. *** Obviously their search engine is already DDOS'd

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Best Solution: by Eberlin · 2004-01-31 09:41 · Score: 5, Funny

Linux geeks reveal that they've secretly controlled satellites in order to build a "Death Star" out of existing space debris. (you think the hubble is busted? Ha! We just borrowed some parts 'cause we needed some lenses and a gyroscope).

This "Death Star" goes Independence Day on SCO Land with pinpoint accuracy -- McBride castrated before being zapped like an ant under a magnifying lens.

Sir Gates and the Knights of the Old Republicans wage war against Geekdom because of this weapon of mass destruction. They device a plan to send a Mac to the death star in order to introduce a virus.

Upon pitching the idea to Steve Jobs, the poor man laughs himself to death, leaving Gates and Ballmer (in their Matrix outfits) to have their tablet PC plugged into the Linux-powered "Laser" via Samba.

The XP Tablet-PC edition spreads like a cancer through the ext3 filesystem resulting in many "I Told You So" comments by Reiser.

Linus, finally sick of all these events, sheds his impartial nature and embraces his dark side. Finally teaches everything he knows to that bleach-blonde IBM Commercial kid and dubs him Darth Tux. Geeks around the world cede their control of the Death Star to Darth Tux, who shoots down both Washingtons and proceeds to carve his face onto Mt. Rushmore.

Darth Tux declared supreme leader, quoted as saying "Choice is good...as long as you choose Linux" Proceeds to create his own distro -- Slim Shady Linux.

Geeks install distro, wave their hands skyward in apathy, and enjoy the new era of computing.

Re:Best Solution: by Solosoft · 2004-01-31 11:58 · Score: 1

Hey ... do you know where I can download one of these Linux Commercials ?
This might be one commercial I _want_ to see

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Re:Best Solution: by Anonymous Coward · 2004-01-31 13:48 · Score: 1, Informative

ibm.com/open
link

I like #5... by Ann+Elk · 2004-01-31 09:42 · Score: 2, Informative

...reminds me of the old "ICMP REDIRECT to 127.0.0.1" trick.

Re:I like #5... by identity0 · 2004-01-31 09:56 · Score: 1

Would it actually work, though? Can you set 127.0.0.1 as a host in the DNS, and do windows machines recognize it as localhost?

It would be really funny if they did that, though ;)
Re:I like #5... by Ravadill · 2004-01-31 11:40 · Score: 1, Funny

There used to be a website (ftp.warez.org I think, but it's changed now) that resolved to 127.0.0.1, it was great to give to those idiots who join random irc channels and ask for good "warez" servers, especially if they happened to be running an ftp server on their own computer. "This site sucks, it has the same stuff as me!"
Re:I like #5... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-01-31 11:47 · Score: 1, Informative

Would it actually work, though? Can you set 127.0.0.1 as a host in the DNS, and do windows machines recognize it as localhost?
That's exactly what Cox Communications tried (for a few hours) in their defense for the Blaster worm. Cox set the A record for updates.microsoft.com to 127.0.0.1, and designated it as authoritative. Since Blaster spoofed the sender IP, uninfected machines received a "loopback attack" from their infected neighbors.
Re:I like #5... by Saint+Stephen · 2004-01-31 12:07 · Score: 1

+1 funny!
Re:I like #5... by user32.ExitWindowsEx · 2004-01-31 12:27 · Score: 1

Didn't warez.slashdot.org do it too?
They changed that at some point tho.

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point to slashdot.org? point to groklaw.com! by MavEtJu · 2004-01-31 09:45 · Score: 4, Insightful

Fascinating that they (=Netcraft) think that Slashdot is doing more damage to SCO than what Groklaw did.

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Re:point to slashdot.org? point to groklaw.com! by j7953 · 2004-01-31 10:42 · Score: 1

Maybe they just knew from which site they would more likely get publicity?

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Re:point to slashdot.org? point to groklaw.com! by Anonymous Coward · 2004-01-31 11:29 · Score: 1, Funny

Perhaps they just think of slashdot when they think of DDoSing?

Not as bad as everyone thinks. by cperciva · 2004-01-31 09:49 · Score: 3, Insightful

As I pointed out on freebsd-chat (google link since the FreeBSD archives are broken right now), this DDoS attack could be handled relatively easily.

The attacking machines are easily recognizable: They issue distinctive[ly minimalist] HTTP requests. It is therefore easy to build a list of "evil" source IP addresses.

Given these IP addresses, all you have to do is filter those packets and send them to a LaBrea tarpit. Each connection hangs indefinitely at a very low packet rate: If I did my arithmetic right, the expected half a million machines would only require 85 Mbps of bandwidth.

Now, that's hardly a trivial amount, but it shouldn't be too hard for a company SCO's size to buy that sort of capacity. Defending against this attack might cost $100K, but that's still less than the $250K they've already offered as a bounty for catching the worm author.

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Re:Not as bad as everyone thinks. by Tripster · 2004-01-31 10:44 · Score: 1

Hey, I like this plan, at the same time hand that list over to the RBL's of the world, I'd like a copy for my own list, this would effectively stop spam from this viru run.

I say this as I've noted an increase in the days since MyDoom of my incoming spam levels, all of them have similarities so I imagine it is one or two outfits using this trojan network, chances are they are the same ones creating the viruses too.

I think the SCO/Linux thing is just to sidetrack us while they continue to use the trojan network for spam delivery.
Re:Not as bad as everyone thinks. by anticypher · 2004-01-31 11:27 · Score: 4, Informative

The original version of the worm had a bug that didn't perform any DDoS of SCO. After having bugs in the code pointed out to them by the ever willing Open Source Community and the Security Research Community, the authors of the worm have helpfully provided several updates that do actually perform the DDoS against both SCO and M$.

Apparently, the code does not perform a complete TCP handshake before trying again. It doesn't wait around for the first TCP SYN+ACK packet, it sends a TCP SYN packet every second. If, by chance, the SCO address responds with a SYN+ACK packet, then the worm sends the initial GET / HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: www.sco.com\r\n\r\n. Its difficult to tell from the decompiles if it even bothers to close the connection, or just abndons the local TCP stack to deal with closing the connection at some later time. In an internet simulator testbed, not providing SYN+ACK packets back to a worm infected microsoft machine, the TCP stack stops sending unbalanced SYN packets after 63 attempts. As a friend helpfully pointed out, you can increase this number by changing a registry setting in windoze.

I personally don't think the current management of SCO cares about their website, they certainly don't have any revenue producing features that need to be maintained. Most SCO clients rarely go to the SCO site for anything, since most maintenance is done by intermediaries like IBM Services Group, which have their own internal distribution of support and patches.

the AC

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Re:Not as bad as everyone thinks. by wampus · 2004-02-01 02:53 · Score: 1

The list:
0.0.0.0/32
Enjoy.
(I had to edit it down a bit to fit into slashdot's comment size limit.)

From SCO's website... by kirun · 2004-01-31 09:53 · Score: 5, Funny

http://www.sco.com/mydoom/

What long-term steps should I take to protect against future viruses? ...

3. Do not download any documents or programs from any Website that you do not know to be reputable

This is just their way of stopping people finding what GPL stuff they're still giving away, isn't it?

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Re:From SCO's website... by taniwha · 2004-01-31 10:39 · Score: 1

you missed the obvious ... at the top of the front page there's a "Actions you can take >" an arrow pointing to someone using a Mac laptop - I guess they are probably right - but maybe their M$ overlords are a tad pissed at that particular suggestion .....
Re:From SCO's website... by binand · 2004-01-31 16:01 · Score: 1

http://www.sco.com/mydoom/

This URL in itself is sort of prophetic, isn't it?

Binand

Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by Natestradamus · 2004-01-31 09:53 · Score: 5, Funny

Mormons, actually. It's like Christ++.

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Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by QuasiCoLtd · 2004-01-31 09:54 · Score: 4, Funny

Object-Oriented Religion?

Re:Will this virus really make a difference to SCO by Aliencow · 2004-01-31 09:57 · Score: 1

Notice how the laptop is an ibook too ?
Using an ibook, I dont have to be "cautious" when clicking .exe files heh..

Re:My problem: can't get drunk by golgotha007 · 2004-01-31 10:00 · Score: 1

wow, an obscure reference that happens to be my favorite song. bravo!

Will there be a DDOS at all? by DF5JT · 2004-01-31 10:04 · Score: 5, Interesting

This just in:

"D'Aloisio Marc observed some things about the DoS attack, and raised some preliminary questions:

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Has anyone seen the DOS against SCO actually happen?

I have the new critter in a test environment where we conducted a
preliminary and rudimentary functionality and threat analysis and the
only activity I can get it to perform related to www.sco.com is to
resolve the name. In fact, it seems very unhappy if it cannot resolve
www.sco.com. Once it can, it happily scans local files for anything
that can be construed (very loosely) as a domain and tries to resolve
mail servers based on these. In fact, right now it's trying to resolve
'mx.makewin.rsp'. "Makewin.rsp' is a file referenced in the help files
of my DigitalMars C++ compiler on a test machine, so it's not a very
smart worm. The worm also seems to like to increment the third octet of
the host IP by one and syn to port 25 of that address over and over and
over... I have played with the date, etc, but still no activity directed
toward www.sco.com. It did die after 12 February, but gladly
resurrected when the date was set back prior to that. "

From: http://www.math.org.il/newworm-digest1.txt

Re:Will there be a DDOS at all? by AndroidCat · 2004-01-31 11:10 · Score: 2, Insightful

If it's a bug in the code, it serves the authors right for not making it open source. A patch would have been posted within hours!
But seriously, if the DDoS code doesn't work, then it really sounds like that part is a secondary red-herring that was either never properly tested, or it was deliberately left non-functional. Either way, that would mean the proxy/backdoor function is the primary purpose--which might tend to point to spammers and their Igor and Renfrew hirelings.

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Re:Will there be a DDOS at all? by Lost+Race · 2004-02-01 12:50 · Score: 1

There's a typical newbie programming error in the date comparison code in the trojan. In WIN32, dates are stored as a 64-bit struct of two 32-bit integers. Instead of using the system API to compare dates, or writing their own correct 64-bit integer comparison, they just compared each 32-bit integer separately like this:
if (u1 > v1 && u2 > v2) { attack(); }
Beginner programmers have been making that same mistake since the beginning of time....
The upshot is that the attack still happens, but with about a 25% duty cycle -- 2 minutes on, 6 minutes off, etc.

Darl soon at CNN by G3ckoG33k · 2004-01-31 10:12 · Score: 2, Informative

He-he. Just kidding.

Hey, wait?! WTF? What's this? OMFG! ICBIFT...

Re:Darl soon at CNN by MindNumbingOblivion · 2004-01-31 14:53 · Score: 1

Quoth the transcript:
MCBRIDE: Well, we believe -- we have had four attacks on our company over the last year. At least one was claimed -- the Linux community claimed responsibility for the attack. We believe that there is a problem with Linux in terms of the code we see showing up inside of there. We don't know for sure if this attack is coming from Linux, but we have very strong suspicions that is the case.
The hell? Which attack was claimed the "Linux community"? Did I misconstrue the statements by Linus' apostles as being condemnations against the DoS's? Darl, your transparency is staggering. You get no points for toying with a dimwitted journalist who wouldn't know Windows from Linux other than the fact that the start bar is missing.

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Re:Darl soon at CNN by EmagGeek · 2004-01-31 17:20 · Score: 1

My favorite quote is "...since you cannot make money with Linux because it's free..."

I love the constant stream of lies... *sigh*
Re:Darl soon at CNN by Alcohol+Fueled · 2004-02-01 05:46 · Score: 1

"http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0401/30/lol.01.htm l"

CNN named a page with Darl on it 'lol'? Haha, even CNN is laughing at him! :)

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The truth in Solution 3... by Scorpion_1169 · 2004-01-31 10:15 · Score: 5, Interesting

Solution 3 recommends redirecting the traffic to 'somone you don't like.' I'm not sure whether I should admit to this but I think you all will find it interesting.

On Tursday afternoon somone began trying to hack into an MS SQL Server that my company runs. They weren't able to get in, but their brute force method of attemting to access the 'sa' account estentially caused a DoS on the application. We got the guys IP address but his ISP doesn't seem very interested in helping out.

It just so happens that we KNOW that a number of users inside our network have contracted MyDOOM. It also just so happens that we have our own internal DNS servers. Jokingly, we mentioned to our Network Admin that he should redirect all the SCO traffic to this IP. You could see a little glimmer in his eye at the suggestion and he paused for a moment and said that was a very interesting idea and that he might just do that...

Anyway, glad to see that we're not the only ones with the idea.

Re:The truth in Solution 3... by JahToasted · 2004-01-31 15:43 · Score: 1

Yeah but is it a dynamic IP? With my luck I'd be the one it would be assigned to right after this bastard.

obligatory whoring by b17bmbr · 2004-01-31 10:28 · Score: 1

1) be tqarget of DDoS
2) spoof story on netcraft
3) ???
4) profit.

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They still do, and more... by idontneedanickname · 2004-01-31 10:29 · Score: 2, Insightful

The document you're looking for is here. But they're people too, and so they have an opinion of their own. Now they felt like letting the rest of the net know what their opinion on this matter is.

Re:They still do, and more... by morelife · 2004-01-31 10:38 · Score: 1

so they have an opinion of their own

Agreed, but in reading this dogfood I thought it negatively affected their credibility on other issues, diluted the seriousness of their work a little.

At least SCO is saving money on Network and Server management; Netcraft does it for them remotely, for free.

yeah, they suck. by twitter · 2004-01-31 10:30 · Score: 4, Interesting

It must have something to do with their recent change from Linux to BSD. Namely, finding anyone at SCO who has any technical competence outside of extortion at SCO these days. Funny that they don't use their own OS to run their site. It's because Linux and BSD stole it, I suppose. They could get such "insane uptimes" (Steve Balmer's description of 30 and 60 day uptime) from M$ junk.

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Website behavior is very odd by bangular · 2004-01-31 10:35 · Score: 1

I am willing to bet they've done _something_. For example, many times I tried to connect and my first try was immediatly stopped by differing error messages "This document contains no data" or "You don't have access to this resource". Then on a second attempt I am connect. Pretty much 9 times out of 10. Also, the initial connection to the main page might be slow; But once I'm on the page it seems fine. My belief is maybe they are purposly putting a latency on the first connection and then using keep-alive and allowing those conections more bandwidth. This would be similiar to a tar pit in that it's supposed to keep the client in a state of waiting as long as possible. The longer it waits, the less DoSing it can do. Just my two cents.

Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by Ian+Wolf · 2004-01-31 10:37 · Score: 4, Funny

Oh yeah. Back in the old days they used to have these whacky ideas about inheritance. It wasn't uncommon for children to have many parents.

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Here is a scary thought by yavo · 2004-01-31 10:42 · Score: 1, Interesting

IBM makes the impossible and loses the case,
IBM buys SCO
IBM owns Linux

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Re:Here is a scary thought by mcbridematt · 2004-01-31 15:32 · Score: 1

I can just imagine it.

Take a Rational-IBM ad.

Replace 'middle' in 'MiddleWare is everywhere' with 'UnixWhere'

Replace 'Rational' in '|Rational| Software' with 'SCO'

Replace whatever-background-picture with a McDonalds POS pic.

Scary :(

just a remark by keeboo · 2004-01-31 11:07 · Score: 1

Fact: *Santa Cruz Operations is dying.

just a remark by keeboo · 2004-01-31 11:11 · Score: 1

Fact: *Santa Cruz Operations is dying.

Ironically "Santa Cruz" stands for "Holy Cross" in Spanish.

How does loopback addr make all Windows PCs slow? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-01-31 11:12 · Score: 1, Interesting

How does loopback address make all Windows PCs go slow?

According to the article

SCO Execs point www.sco.com at the loopback address 127.0.0.1 ... Millions of Windows users notice that their computer is running extremely slowly

Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by Anomander · 2004-01-31 11:36 · Score: 2, Funny

Mormons, actually.

Wonder why my brain edited out the second m there for a moment...
Seemed reasonable too...

Re:How does loopback addr make all Windows PCs slo by timothv · 2004-01-31 11:38 · Score: 1

How does loopback address make all Windows PCs go slow?

Because the windows machines are DDoSing www.sco.com, stupid.

Network Support by WindBourne · 2004-01-31 11:44 · Score: 1

Maybe IBM should offer to trade good network support for the company itself.

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Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by Anonymous Coward · 2004-01-31 12:22 · Score: 1, Funny

Dum dum dum dum dum, Joesph Smith was called a Profit, dum dum dum dum dum! dum dum dum dum dum

Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by bigbadwlf · 2004-01-31 12:24 · Score: 1

Consequences: No denial of service traffic whatsoever seen on the Internet. Millions of Windows users notice that their computer is running extremely slowly. Many buy new machines, which fixes the problem. Dell & Microsoft stock rises.

I can totally see Joe Sixpack doing that.

Intriguing quote by AntiOrganic · 2004-01-31 12:25 · Score: 1

"Since you can't make money with Linux because it's free, maybe that's the new monetization system."

Zuh?

WTF by mabu · 2004-01-31 12:28 · Score: 1, Flamebait

I submitted this story the other day and it was rejected -- what's with you people? One of your moderators has a real itchy trigger finger.

Re:Darl soon at CNN -- and it's legit by BadElf · 2004-01-31 13:11 · Score: 1

I had to re-read this three times and verify that it was actually a CNN article before I could believe it. Darl has got to be the world's worst liar -- he just keeps making shit up, never backs it up, and then makes up more. And if you don't buy his lies, he sends you a bill for stealing his company's IP.

After reading this, I can just imagine a typical SCO board meeting -- "y'know what Darl? this IP thing had a very tiny shot at success in the beginning, but the pump and dump strategy you proposed isn't working any more. And now you're claiming that we own the IP rights to photosynthesis!? Does that mean we own the patents to digital photography? HP already bought one of our *nix licenses. Do you think they'll be stupid enough to pay us more so they can continue to sell photo printers? If not, maybe we should claim ownership of cell-division --- might be able leverage that against the mobile phone companies."

You just had to... by Lord+Graga · 2004-01-31 13:19 · Score: 2, Funny

...link so SCO again? This is getting fishy :)

Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by fizban · 2004-01-31 13:26 · Score: 3, Funny

So, if Christ is the Highest, wouldn't Christ++ wrap around (2's complement) to the lowest possible, meaning the devil? No wonder SCO is located there...

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Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by Anonymous Coward · 2004-01-31 13:39 · Score: 2, Funny

I hear that if you're from the island of Java, you can only have one parent.

Good food in Utah by timothy · 2004-01-31 14:07 · Score: 2, Informative

Vegetarians, beware of the following statement:

One of the most memorable meals I've ever had (and in a good way, not in the "... and then the waiter was stabbed by the Mob guys!" way) was a few years ago in Utah, I think in Provo (well, somewhere in the Provo / Park City / Salt Lake City triangle, anyhow ;)), but at any rate at a Brazilian Grill, the name of which is nearly at hand, but oh, well. ("Rodizio Grill"?)

a) the good was delicious, and it was not heavy on the spinach n' cucumber side of things. Beef, chicken, pork, rattlesnake sausage ...

b) Good system, a sort of reverse buffet. Each table has a red / green wooden token, a traffic signal for the wait staff, who are bringing around food on platters. Red-side-up means "We're still dangerously full," green-side-up means "Please bring us more, we have discovered a leak and it needs to be plugged with, among other things, quail eggs."

I know that there are now lots of these Brazilian grills around the country. If only there was a good source of vat-meat ... it's hard to reconcile the idea of vegetarianism (the not eating animals part at least) with the tastiness of, well, ex-animals.

As impressive as the food, though, is the system which prevents the table-service game of trying to make eye contact with waiters etc. It's a more elegant solution than my long-contemplated idea which would be to have a sort of steward/ess light over the tables in restaurants. The wooden token is simple, uses red/green cues which (non-colorblind) people are used to. (Though the semantics are also reversable; it would be as sensible to say "red means Stop to the waiter, green means the waiter can pass you by.") I think there was a little guide on the table.

The rest of the state, perhaps, but SLC and Park City do not lack for excellent food, casual to quite formal.

timothy

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Re:Good food in Utah by salimma · 2004-02-01 07:14 · Score: 1

It's a more elegant solution than my long-contemplated idea which would be to have a sort of steward/ess light over the tables in restaurants.

Thought of that myself :) Though seeing how it is dismally ineffective on airplanes, having a central board in the kitchen showing which tables need attending is probably better.

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Of course... by Jugalator · 2004-01-31 14:14 · Score: 3, Insightful

Through the media SCO Group sent the message that a virus writer that targets its website would be a Linux enthusiast.

Because the SCO Group has Linux as their target, sinking to lower levels for each attack they do, why should it be news or strange that some Linux user would do so as well? SCO has chosen to fight a dirty battle.

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Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by ionpro · 2004-01-31 14:45 · Score: 2, Informative

You can see it because it actually happens. I work a tier 1 helpdesk for a top 20 university. You'd think that the people here would be smarter then your average person simply because of the strict admissions requirements. However, I've had no fewer then four cases in the past four months where someone has bought a new machine because they're old box was running slowly due to spyware/adware. They'll bring the old machine in and either try to sell it or have us clean it up for a gift to a relative or something similar.

And those are just four where I happen to have found out about them. I can't imagine all the cases where I don't find out...

SCO Joke by IchBinDasWalross · 2004-01-31 15:00 · Score: 1

What do SCO's Product and Leader have in common? They're both UNIX (eunuchs).

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Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by bigbadwlf · 2004-01-31 16:01 · Score: 2, Funny

I work in tech support for one of the major computer manufacturers.
I've had people call up claiming that their brand new computer came with the Blaster worm.
It'd be nice if the sales people had enough sense to give out a flyer with instructions on how to enable the Windows XP firewall and download the patch, but I probably expect too much.

Budweiser drinking SCO executives? by merc · 2004-01-31 16:17 · Score: 3, Funny

Solution 2: Take www.sco.com out of the DNS.

Consequences: Everyone has a quiet weekend. SCO Execs drink Budweiser and watch the Superbowl. Global media considers that the virus author "has won". Anti-virus company Execs do not return journalists' calls on "What was all that fuss?"

The SCO execs are all Mormon I thought, they'll have to settle for a dixie cup of lemonade, that is if they're not at church.

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Looks like SCO is getting hit. by Archeopteryx · 2004-01-31 16:19 · Score: 1

VERY slow page loads now. Remember that it is already Sunday on the other side of the International Date Line.

-Ben

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Re:Looks like SCO is getting hit. by Archeopteryx · 2004-02-01 02:12 · Score: 1

SCO is deader than Bush's chance of re-election now!

I wonder how the routers upstream of them are doing?

-Ben

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Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by Skye16 · 2004-01-31 16:31 · Score: 1

Are you sure you read this one? ;)

Solution 5: SCO Execs point www.sco.com at the loopback address 127.0.0.1, end lawsuits, dismiss lawyers, and invest remaining corporate cash reserves in call options in Dell & Microsoft stock.

Yeah, but at this point the author is just being silly.

Utah/Alta skiing by baomike · 2004-01-31 16:32 · Score: 1

What ever else you want to say about Utah, the snow
at Alta and some of the other areas is better.
It cold as hell and the air is too thin
(11,000ft) but the skiing is excellent.

I am from Oregon , I appreciate dry snow.

Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by fucksl4shd0t · 2004-01-31 17:05 · Score: 2, Funny

Object-Oriented Religion?

Isn't that referred to as 'idolatry'?

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Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by jasonwea · 2004-01-31 18:09 · Score: 1

I think that new consumer Windows PCs should come pre-patched with the latest patches from Windows Update and have the firewall enabled on any pre-configured connections (SP2 will help the later).

Obviously due to the number and frequency of patches that Microsoft are releasing, this may not be an easy or inexpensive task for retailers.

They took the second option by sean1121 · 2004-01-31 18:20 · Score: 1, Redundant

www.sco.com doesn't resolve anymore, and check out their serial in the SOA 2004013103 Updated just in time!

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Re:They took the second option by RubberDuckie · 2004-01-31 18:33 · Score: 1

Yep, that was a recent change. I checked about half an hour ago, and the TTL for www.sco.com was down to 60 seconds. I'm so disapoined, as I was looking for the address to send in my license fee.

Why are the using BSD by R4p70r · 2004-01-31 18:28 · Score: 1

Acording to netcraft the SCO web site is hosted on an OpenBSD or NetBSD box. But why don't they use Unixware, Solaris, Irix or anything 'Unix'? I know that some arrangement was made in a previous Novell vs BSD case and that SCO will probably not go after BSD again. But why don't they use their own products.

Re:Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide Now! by yuri+benjamin · 2004-01-31 19:02 · Score: 1

Man, reading this post makes me thirsty. Mind you, I never drink Dihydrogen Monoxide on its own. I always need to dilute it with Dihydrocarbon hydroxide and various flavours. Hops and malt spring to mind. Mmmm.

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Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by pgilman · 2004-01-31 19:36 · Score: 1

> I leave it to the Lord to punish SCO. Eternal doom proposed.

I can't wait that long.

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No longer needing a C&D by Felinoid · 2004-01-31 21:03 · Score: 1

Pay up or we point www.sco.com to your server.

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lol -- The DOS has begun by the_thunderbird · 2004-01-31 21:56 · Score: 1

Well it's the first of FEB here in the UK, tried to access the $CO site and it seems that its completely broken!

named.conf indeed. by dannycim · 2004-01-31 23:34 · Score: 1

I love it when some people try to show off with tech-talk but get it wrong. Netcraft's article says:

"... SCO can direct that Tsunami at an object of their choosing, simply by changing an A record in named.conf"

Nobody puts A records in named.conf, dumbass. A records go into zone files.

What if they changed www.sco.com to 127.0.0.1... by stor · 2004-01-31 23:46 · Score: 1

...and all the infected machines blew themselves out of existence.

I like the sound of that: millions of windows boxes simultaneously commit suicide. 8)

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How would that help? by mangu · 2004-02-01 00:07 · Score: 1

polygamy was practiced there up to 100 years ago mainly to populate Utah as quickly as possible from the small band of initial settlers.

AFAIK, the rate would still be limited to 1 child/(woman*year), while a *normal* man such as myself can have up to five children/day, limited only by the availability of women. Polygamy would be a solution for that only if the number of women in the state was larger than the number of men.

Re:Will there be a DDOS? Yes! by AndroidCat · 2004-02-01 01:15 · Score: 1

Apparently the DDoS happened, sco.com is down, and Darl didn't just trip over the cord. Interesting that the effort to make it DDoS in captivity failed. Perhaps it was just shy?

So. Maybe the DDoS is the primary purpose of this? MyDoom.B is ready to hit microsoft.com on Tuesday.

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something I find both interesting and hillarious by CAIMLAS · 2004-02-01 01:28 · Score: 1

On Febuary 1st, at midnight, mydoom started DDoSing sco.com

At that very time, my ISP (one of the largest in the Midwest US) also increased the upload cap from 128kbit to 256kbit - an upgrade plan that was in the works for a couple weeks (at least) prior to the mydoom worm.

Furthermore, my ISP happens to be a huge fan of a certain freedom-supporting OS.

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Re:What if they changed www.sco.com to 127.0.0.1.. by rduke15 · 2004-02-01 02:09 · Score: 1

Would have been fun, but they didn't. They seem to actually have done nothing at all, except changing the serial on their zone.
www.sco.com is still 216.250.128.12, as before:

$ host www.sco.com ns.calderasystems.com Using domain server: Name: ns.calderasystems.com Address: 216.250.130.1 Aliases: www.sco.com has address 216.250.128.12

$ host -t SOA sco.com ns.calderasystems.com Using domain server: Name: ns.calderasystems.com Address: 216.250.130.1 Aliases: sco.com start of authority ns.calderasystems.com hostmaster.caldera.com( 2004020102 ;serial (version) 3600 ;refresh period 900 ;retry refresh this often 604800 ;expiration period 1800 ;minimum TTL )

Reporting for duty by bigmeanogre · 2004-02-01 02:19 · Score: 1

As a low ranking member of the government, I'm ready to assist in anyway possible. The oath does say "All enemies, foreign, and Domestic.

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Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by laird · 2004-02-01 03:15 · Score: 1

"Mormons, actually. It's like Christ++."

Hmm, isn't that ((Moses++)++)++? (Can't forget the jews and Muslims)

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slashdot is still up by bl8n8r · 2004-02-01 03:30 · Score: 1

They must not have opted for solution #3

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Re:Fourth solution is even funnier than the third. by bigbadwlf · 2004-02-01 04:31 · Score: 1

Unfortunately, once SP2 is finally released it will likely be about 6 months before we have it preinstalled on our new machines.
I'm looking forward to that time, but not the laundry list of things SP2 will break, like SP1 did.

Re:SCO's A record by Ernest · 2004-02-01 05:14 · Score: 1

Because then they would not have the noise.

Remember, contrary to MS, SCO does not need it's web site to for their income (MS and Sun are their income source).
If the site goes down, they don't care. And in the mean time they will try to get the people to blame linux fanatics.

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Tucanos = Rodizios++ by KnarfO · 2004-02-02 10:32 · Score: 1

If you're ever back in the SLC/PC/Provo Triangle, I highly recommend Tucanos.

It's the same concept as Rodizio, but with better food and service!

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Re:DEATH TO ALL EUROPEANS AND ASIANS! by NanoGator · 2004-02-03 09:27 · Score: 1

"I accidently moderated this as funny...now am posting to wipe out moderation on this topic. Is there another way? God help my karma."

I can't believe this guy was modded down (twice?!) for doing the right thing. Metamodded as unfair, and I advise you do the same.

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