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New Battlestar Galactica Series Greenlighted
Trunks writes "A few days ago the Sci Fi Channel officially announced a 13 episode season for Ronald Moore's Battlestar Galactica remake. Looks like they'll be bringing back most of the cast members, including Edward James Olmos and Mary McDonnell. The new series will begin a few days after the miniseries that aired a few months back. Production commences next month in Vancouver, B.C." This had been speculated previously, and the rumors are indeed true.
Lucite hardening ... must end life in classic Lorne Greene pose from "Battlestar Galactica." Best ... death ... ever!
I live in Vancouver
where are they shooting the movie?
side note: A lot of X-Files eps were shot in Simon Fraser University. The central university building is Academic Quadrangle, name after its quadrangular shape. Whenever the X-Files team needs a shot of the pentagon, they just "cheat" their way out by shooting a section of AQ...
I watched that show thinking it would be laughable, but I wound up enjoying it.
Ballistic missiles over beam weapons. Mmmm.
But they have to bring back the original theme song.
Kill, Tux, kill!
Just because production is in BC doesn't mean the idea came from there. Lots of American movies are shot in BC and Toronto ("Hollywood North") lately.
Are we really so out of ideas?
You must not have seen the billboard ads for the Starsky & Hutch movie, starring Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson.
Is the entertainment industry out of ideas? In a word... YES.
I watched the mini series and I really liked it. But what really bugged me was the stupid plot surrounding the android Number 6. The Cylons have vastly superior technology and a huge army, but to destroy the human race they create a sexy blonde android that seduces our best programmer. Sheesh. Almost made me stop watching there and then.
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I enjoyed Galactica as a kid (yeah, I'm old now), and am looking forward to this new series.
Where, however, is the "buzz" over cool new ideas yet unseen? Many people buzz over remakes of old ideas, but are they done any better?
Star Wars lumbers on with dialogue-ridden prequels (and yet unseen postquels), Gilligan's Island is probably in production for the silver screen by now, I-Spy has been dubiously remade.
Firefly was/is a cool idea and at least got an airing. Star Trek is still a cool franchise, but has been pretty commodotized.
Where's the new, cool stuff.
I'm not a huge Anime fan, but Cowboy Bepop seems pretty cool to me. If there aren't new ideas, why not bring this one from one format to another?
Still; Where's the cool, new stuff?
"The new series will begin a few days after the miniseries that aired a few months back."
That would either qualify this as OLD news, or
one of the most tortured sentences I've seen in a while....
Sig Battery depleted. Reverting to safe mode.
More likely, it was some senior exec in Hollyweird deciding that he didn't have to spend millions of extra dollars shooting in the USA just because Ahhhnold was now The Governator. The fact that B.C. has the best marijuana in the world and is relatively unencumbered by the lunacy of the U.S. war on drugs probably had nothing to do with it...
Besides, when Canadian producers want to mine the 80's for remake potential we end up with less grass and more Degrassi...
Are we really so out of ideas?
You're just noticing that now?
Here, Sky have decided to stitch BGnew into a movie and show it on their movie channel, as opposed to Sky one, where my simpsons, 24, and trek.. are.
I guess now I'm going to have to hit a torrent for it.
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Being in the Pacific Northwest, I notice alot of the filming that goes on here. Unfortunatly they have moved to Vancover. From my understanding it's because they will let you get away with alot of shit (see Jackie Chan). I don't know this for a fact, but that's the rumor.
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> Can Sci-Fi show nudity? I know they can in the UK, but what about the more repressive US channel?
In the USA, Congress is more worried about a glimpse of a tit than they are about ongoing wars in the Near East.
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Shut the fuck up. You're going to ruin it for everyone else.
Has anyone seen any info on when the Sci-fi channel will be releasing thier mini-series on DVD?
Is the space station wheelchair accessible?
To be honest I had serious reservations about them bringing this one back. However, once I actually sat down and watched it I was blown away. Personally I think they hit a homerun with the pilot and can't wait to watch the new series. They did so many thing right IMO: the Sci-Fi wasn't so much "Fi" as I thought they'd throw at a show of this type. For example: Ballistic weapons, somewhat realistic space flight (thrusters), and the cinematic zooms all help add some realism to the space scenes.
On top of all that they nailed the human side of the story. Family ties, personal relationships, etc all played a huge role in the pilot (perhaps even more so than in the original series). For me, this is the element that makes the show so good.
My only fear is that they change the characters or take away from the dynamics of what they were building.
"On a scale from 1 to 10, people are stupid"
I have always had a soft spot for "Wagon Train in Space"... and look forward to someone doing something with this highly popular short lived series. I could care less about the lack of beam weapons, or stupid mechanical dog. Give me exploration off the map, cultrual satire, and a cigar smoking hot shot piolt. If you must do that pan and zoom style for battle sequences... so be it.
Battlestar Galactica was, and always will be pulp fiction for the masses, where demographical studies were paramount! I'm looking forward to being exploited.
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Lets see - Every single character is a total stereotypes. We have a tough as nails, always in trouble ace pilot, a father and son who don't talk anymore, an acerbic commander who doesn't take stick from anyone, and a cowardly scientist who refuses to take responsibility for his actions (Did they get mixed up and think it was a Lost in Space revival?).
Then they take out the few bits that were remotely imaginative from the original series. Rather than having an ancient society with their own political structure, they have a carbon copy of the US political system. All the ancient Egyptian styling has been axed, and the Galactica is simply way too new. Galactica was 500 years old in the original series. It made it seem like it was worth caring about.
Finally, we have the actual script. It's not enough just to throw in random emotive scenes. Yes, they have to leave some people behind. Yes, it's a tragedy. But come-on; three times!?. Talk about rubbing it in. And even though we're meant to believe that it's such a disaster, people make these life or death decisions with hardly a flicker of anxiety.
They are getting into nostalgica - right ?
There just was a movie made from the german series "Raumpatroullie Orion" - here a fan site (I don't know the english series name), where all of the seven episodes were assembled to a movie, completed by new filmed "News Show" (still in B/W)
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I think the real driver behind all the remakes is available bandwidth. The number of channels available on a modern direct-broadcast satellite system is astounding! The programmers (in the TV sense of the word) just can't generate enough content or come up with enough new ideas.
There's a glut of video bnadwidth, viewers get spread thin, advertising dollars per channel plummets -- thus we have remakes, re-runs, and 'reality' shows ad nauseum.
(BTW: I thought the miniseries was pretty good! Especially compared to the campy original.)
I really liked the pilot (miniseries my ash). As scifi goes, it was pretty damn good, despite the gaping holes. The ones like how the cylons have all those special communication abilities and glow-in-the-dark spinal cords when they are indistinguishable from us "down to our blood".
Also Starbuck is incredibly annoying and ugly to boot. As much as I liked the pilot, I don't know if I could stand watching her so much. They really should have left her as a man. Or, if they are going to leave her female, at least they could go all the way and make her a lesbian. Or better yet kill her off early in the show. Now that would be a 24-like kind of surprise.
OTOH, I could watch the hot Asian "Boomer" all day long. I really like her face. I like Trisha's performance. She's very intense. I like that she's just a virtual person.
So what's good about the show? The eerie, almost spooky feeling of floating in space alone, forever, with everyone else in your entire species, your whole civilization just gone. I thought they were pretty successful at pulling off those kinds of subtle feelings. The blade runner-esque music certainly helps with this.
It is kind of Blade Runner meets Terminator (I wonder if it was pitched that way), but both were classic SciFi movies, the more mature and powerful of the two being Blade Runner of course. Makes me wonder if Edward J. Olmos will end up being a Cylon in the end. It seems apparent to me that the director was really moved by Blade Runner, by the whole kind of world created in that film.
To question the difference between humans and intelligent machines, of which is which, to see our own machines become so succesfull as organisms that they destroy us.
These are wonderful ideas to explore. No they are not completely original anymore. But, as long as the miniseries retains its own unique feel and is not blatantly imitative with its storylines there is a great deal of potential here.
I like the idea of machines coming to worship their own emotions (like "love"). A lot could be done with this material. That's for sure.
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
Excellent!
The Sci-Fi Channel had the guts to air Lexx as well as a host of other ventures. I have caught my co-workers on many a time watching Outer Limits or Twilight Zone.
Has much less commercials than TNT. (Anybody been through the painfull IGEA pore sucker commercial?)
I wish these guys well, and I think they are on course so far.
That's good news. I liked the cylons, they looked more realistic than other robots of that era. Their 'by your command' was impressive. At least they used some kind of voice encoder device to make it sound real, as opposed to actors trying to talk metallic in other series.
The new series will begin a few days after the miniseries that aired a few months back
Now THAT is Sci-Fi... Giving the green light NOW and have it begin a few months back...
How does it begin a few days after it aired last year? Is this per the /. calendar?
When I first watched this, taped to my VCR, I was not impressed. However I later downloaded a bittorrent of it, captured from satellite or similar, and after watching it a few times where I could back up and such I found I enjoyed many aspects of it.
Watching it without the commercials really improved it. Anyone else find otherwise decent programs on Sci-Fi ruined by the deluge of commercials?
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nope. It is simple exchange rate economics. It is just cheaper to pay in Canadian dollars then American dollars, they have all the same unions and regulations that they have south of the border in Washington, but costs are a whole lot less.
Even if I didn't dig the hell out of the mini, I'd watch the series for more Grace Park. =D
Mod me down and I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine...
Near as I'm aware, cable stations don't have to conform to the same set of standards that broadcast stations do. For example, the writers for South Park were shocked to find out there was really no issue saying SHIT on C.Central. I think it's just a choice so they don't offend anyone rather then a clear cut rule. Heaven forbid that a kid might see a 1/2 nakid woman... but not a problem with senceless violence... or just senceless like pokeman. Personaly I think a 1/2 woman is less offencive... well depending. Public access nudes are not a problem, in fact i've seen live sex on public access, or at least a handjob.
I'm not up on the current FCC rules, why PBS can show 1/2 nakid women like in Unwed Lesbian Indians for Nuclear Engery, and how the system has broadcast rules have changed since the 1980s.
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Being in the Pacific Northwest, I notice alot of the filming that goes on here. Unfortunatly they have moved to Vancover. From my understanding it's because they will let you get away with alot of shit (see Jackie Chan). I don't know this for a fact, but that's the rumor.
By filming in Canada, the production companies don't have to pay union rates to the hordes of support personal required to make the films. This out sourcing significantly brings down costs, while still providing a location with white, English-speaking extras and close proximity to the US, to accommodate "name" US actors.
The X-Files, for example, was mostly filmed in Canada, with US filming limited to some "location" shots of recognizable landmarks.
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The problem is that totally unimaginative people are holding the purse-strings. They don't want to gamble on something they haven't seen before. They want to sell something they know has already sold once before.
That's why you don't get big budget "new" movies, you get sequel after sequel of The Matrix 6, Charlies Angles 3, Scooby Doo 2, etc., and the crap just gets churned out, but they know they can market it because the auideince for that crap is pre-existing.
Lord of the Rings was such a fluke because there's no way that should have gotten done, or done as well as it was, via the Hollywood system. Because Hollywood crushes creativity, it eschews original thought, and it despises anything it can't reference as something else.
When you're committing millions of dollars before even a frame of film is shot, the boardroom people want to be comfortable about it by knowing it's really something they can already relate to. That's why Gene Roddenbury had to "sell" Star Trek as "Wagon Train to the Stars", and couch it in relation to a Western, which was the TV staple of the 60's.
Unless you can make your "new idea" seem like *exactly* something everyone has seen before, you'll never get funding for your production. You've got a better chance of winning the lottery and self-producing it.
And that, my friend, is why there's only crap on TV and Movies. Because Hollywood hates "new ideas".
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
Showing nudity or a pair of boobs is OK, as long as there is a bullet wound between them.
Remember, the Cylons won because the humans basically couldn't shoot back. Hell yeah you have superior power when you've sent in a spy to obtain access to the defense mainframe and figure out how to turn off all of your enemy's defensive/offensive capabilities.
...but are they doing this remake because they cannot think of new ideas for a television show?
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This brings back childhood memories - Starbuck, Apollo...
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I believe that if the context of the titty shot is justified, then it would be okay.
IE....Secret Agent Timberlake, after relieving many non-americans of the right to live, discovers that Iraq does indeed have at least one Weapon Of Mass Destruction, and in a flurry of last minute fake kung fu moves aganist the royal iraqi guardsmen, he accidentally removes the protective leatherette breastal material of stunned sidekick, Ms. Jackson. This, of course, distracts the "most evil person in the world", just enough to sing an important song about moraility and some such, and then Timberlake, Jackson, and ninja boob, in an array of stuff, manages to make the third world through first world free!
Most excellent.
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I watched the mini-series, and like many here thought it had it's pros and cons. But the fact that they're putting their money on this rather than Farscape is proof to me that the execs at SciFi just have bad taste.
I was really impressed with the quality of the mini-series, and how it stayed true to the original without just being a straight remake. It makes me wonder, though, if its easier to make a new series when there's only 22 original episodes to follow, as opposed to the 4 series and couple of hundred episodes that result in a follow up like Enterprise, where continuity is raped on a regular basis. Mr. Moore can probably keep 'em all in his head.
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I just bought the original series, all 24 epsidoes (not 22 like the article says!) and I'm loving every minute! Not only do they go through all the normal rigmarole of launching etc, but they deal with problems like humans would, rather than like other programmes would (like suddenly finding the obvious answer, like why not use antiflasmagron drive...) and so it's always been a favourite. Hopefully, when the new series comes to the UK, it's not on Sky(^H^Hhite) and instead either Ch4 or the BBC get it. Here's to the new series being any good!
I was so upset by those "Psychic" , " Alien investigation" and "Reality Show" crap that was aired recently on Sci-Fi Channel
I watched the mini-series (I recalled there was three of them, isn't it right?) and I really enjoyed
it.
I haven't watched the original Series (I only watched part of it when they did the rerun) but
now I may consider to look into both series , maybe get a hold of the DVD release.
[TROLL] I can't put up with the crap "John Edward" show anymore, everytime I saw it shows up , I just changed the channel.
Don't ruin my memory of the original Battlestar Galactica by "revisioning" this complete ripoff of a series. Man, if this thing comes out I will parental lock the Sci-Fi channel and scramble the code.
...shouldn't it be "New Battlestar Galactica Series Greenlit?"
from all the negative press the show got before and after airing i had some pretty low expectations, but couldn't check it out for myself until it played in canada. frankly, while i grew up at just the right age to adore the original and forgive it's shortcomings, the remake far outstripped the old one by a long mile. the combat sequences were shot in a handheld style that i loved in attack of the clones and loved just as much here. the story itself was pretty solid, but with a few, ahem, issues. i did find the religious byline a bit curious, a little unexpected in it's heavyhandedness. the show seems to have a decent cast so far, with probably a few tweaks sometime soon. if i had one suggestion for the series though is that it goes back to the planet and follows up with what's left, from a tempoary survivor view. the handheld style might enhance the impact a little and the religion could be played hard. anyway, interesting schtuff.
While it does hit some formulaic parts, Andromeda, is a pretty good sci-fi series, especially when compared to a lot of the swill out there.
The setup: Hunt, commander of a high guard star ship, one of the most powerful in the Commonwealth screws up and gets to close to a black hole. A few hundred years (500?) later, thanks to an event that took place hundreds of years ago, his ship finally breaks free of the pull of the black hole and he emerges into a universe where the Commonwealth no longer exists anymore. Hunt who is completely lost decides, with a rag tag group who was trying to salvage his ship, to rebuild the Commonwealth. So along they go traveling all over the universe breaking the occasional law of physics but never to the point of completely insulting you repeatedly in each episode.
The best part overall, Commander Hunt, much like the first great space commander (Kirk), sees it as his duty to hit lots of alien booty.
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Minor correction. In the industry, Vancouver is more commonly referred to as Hollywood North, not Toronto.
I figured the 13th episode would be the "lost" one.
I'll admit it, I watched the original series back in the 80s, and I liked it. It's no excuse that I was a kid at the time, I should have known better. It was crap and I liked it. I also liked Buck Rogers, which was an even bigger load of crap. I was so starved for science fiction entertainment I religiously watched what the tv execs threw out at us.
So I watched this latest version of Battlestar Galactica, and you know what? I liked it. I really should know better...
The Moore-Murphy Law: The number of things that will go wrong will double every 2 years.
And they wonder why sales are failing...
1. Re-release movies and/or spin offs of big hits
2. ????
3. Profit!
Learn something new.
Reminds me of the time I first heard about "Silicon Highway" on Granada Men and Motors. I spent fours hours staying up late to watch this program. I was extremely disappointed to find it was only about nude women with plastic surgery rather than the latest advances in computer technology.
it got you to watch.. that pilot (other than ads on the sci-fi channel ads itself> was marketed using reverse psych.. EJOlmos was deliberately quoted as telling purist fans of the original "don't watch this"
why? 'cause he gave a rats ass about the viewers?
no-- because it got them more news air time about the show than paid advertising
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New series greenlighted. New nouns verbed. Here's Tom with the weather!
I watched the new Battlestar Galactica, and I actually liked it. So starving for more BG I ordered the original series from Netflix. I liked the first multi-part episode of the original series, but after that they were all crap. All the plots are as follows -- Apollo marooned on a planet, Starbuck marooned on a planet, Apollo and Starbuck marooned on a planet. Arggh! I hope the new series actually lives up to the pilot episode.
To all those who did not like the new episode, watch it again. I didn't like it at first, but it grew on me. The acting is first rate and all the characters are very likeable.
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Edward J. Olmos was in Blade Runner.
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"The new series will begin a few days after the miniseries that aired a few months back."
So where do I need to relocate to to be able to see these series now?
It would take years before the series finaly hit our country...
H*ll, we're still waiting for the final two episodes of the old serie...
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Is that, like, Long Island?
But seriously... Congress is concerned over the Jackson incident because laws they passed establishing guidelines for the content using the airwaves owned by the public were ignored. It's correct for them to be concerned. Since it is likely that the incident was pre-meditated by at least one MTV producer and Jackson herself to create a pocket-lining "buzz," it's correct for Congress to be more than a little bit annoyed as well.
Sci-Fi Channel is on cable. The restrictions relating to the public airwaves do not apply to them. However, they are smart enough to realize that the demographic for a Battlestar Galactica revival is not the same as "Queer as Folk" or "The Sopranos" and will most certainly produce it no harder than a PG. The perception is that the "adults" won't be watching it and that the "kids" won't be allowed to watch it if it contained nudity.
There's nothing stupid about it at all. It's called a covert operation. It was done during the Cold War all the time. Someone is seduced into giving away the crown jewels. Yes, people in real life have done that.
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In the USA, the news stations are so concerned with lawyers and censors that failing companies no longer go "Titsup", they financially restructure.
Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history.
Ill give it a shot.
But be prepared for some hokey stuff in 13 episodes the powers that be have to reestabish a plot, AND figure out a way for the new cylons to track the humans. My guess is that they[writers] will work in some sort of tracking device in the lone cylon on board the galactica, or she (since it was revealed to be the asian pilot) will sabotage some system to send a signal. Hopefully there will some subplots showing the suvivors of the attacks on the homeworld.
It is better to be the hammer than the anvil.
very funny..
obviously the Netherlands have the best weed
in the world
but maybe someone got some of our seeds over to bc.
"Kill 'em all and let Root sort 'em out"
It's too bad its going to become a series. It wasn't true enough to the original, I saw several technical inconstancies..
Show was slow, poorly acted and generally dull as well, seemed like just another B5 to me.. Perhaps it can improve, but its got a long way to go in order to be taken seriously as a show as far as im concerned.....
Yes I expect to be moderated into oblivion, but its what my impression was after the pilot 'mini series' ( if any one actually thought it wouldnt become a series, they were blind to the rather obvious marketing ploy to get people to watch it )
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...a well done series for RiverWorld or a mini-series for Ringworld followed by a series. I read the first Riverworld book and although it was extremely short, I thought it was excellent.
The Riverworld miniseries sucked by comparison. The SciFi channel is in the habbit of producing cliffhanger miniseries with the hope of high raitings to push for a full blown series. To bad the Riverworld miniseries wasn't done right.
Actually, most science fiction shows these days are made in Canada - over the last 5-10 years I bet about 90% of the science fiction shows have been made in either Toronto or BC. Examples are Earth Final Conflict, X-files, Andromeda, StarGate, and a bunch of others I can't remember right now. None of the Star Trek have been made in Canada, but a bunch of the ones produced by Majel Roddenberry have been...
I'm losing faith in the Sci-Fi Channel.
...and what about Dead Last.
They cancel Farscape and then go with the NEW Battlestar Galactica.
What a waste.
Why can't they pick up shows that other irresponsible networks have canceled, like Firefly?
Cartoon Network at least picked up the Family Guy, and the Sci-Fi channel should be doing similar.
Have they changed Starbuck's name to avoid and law suits?
Unfortunately, I am not Wil Wheaton
Nice offhand spoiler, dude.
if you think a Starsky & Hutch movie starring Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson is funny, I wonder what your reaction would be, learning that the latest Snow White movie is a martial arts flick, directed by Yuen Wo Ping, no less
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I'm sorry, but If a show is supposed to be a continuation or a 'remake' of an existing show it SHOULD be true to the original..
If it isn't, then it should be a DIFFERENT show.. Regardless of the quality of the actual show.. Pretty simple viewpoint.
And as far as their acting, everyone has their own view, my view is that it sucked, it was too 'forced'.. I guess I expect higher standards then you.. Doesn't make either of us right or wrong.
But hey, many people liked 'survivor' so there isn't any accounting for taste in a lot of cases..
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Not a chance that the best producers are in NL, just a lot of variety, which means that there is some very good quality that arrives there. In fact, recent reports I have had from travellers coming from there weren't impressed with the quality compared to the home supply. As far as 'best' production regions, that's up for grabs, though in NA "BC Bud" has a well-deserved reputation through 30 years of concerted horticultural development, and it's the largest cash-crop in the province.
Where else would you film a show with a character named Starbuck but in Vancouver. There has to be about a thousand Starbucks in Downtown alone. (I've never been to Seattle but I can't imagine they have more Starbucks then Vancouver.)
"bated" = held back
"baited"= ready to be bitten by a fish
Your post title suggests a very unpleasant halitosis, sorry.
Lexx was cool because it had a hot chick.
yeah but Majel has presided over all the terrible ones, EFC, Andromeda etc.
Is that about Legacy of Kain: Defiance? Awesome game. I've never played any of the Soulreaver games before, but I might check them out after playing Defiance. I think Legacy of Kain would be a good candidate game for an movie, it has quite a plot to it.
But switching to a medieval time period... and the cylons are now the dutch...
I call hooey on you. You can't make a feature-length mainstream in Vancouver without relying heavily on IATSE local 891. They're just too useful.
No, every Amurrican producer/director I've talked to about working in Canada describes the experience as dominated by working with extremely skilled and unassuming crews and actors (the phrase that keeps coming up is that they don't have the 'sense of entitlement' that crews in LA do).
The Hollywood North thing isn't about union-busting so much as about exchange rate and financial incentives, great locations, and really good resources when it comes to crew, facilities, and post.
California Bud's pretty legendary too, so I don't think it's that... uh,
Damn those pesky terrorists
However, wall street will punish a company if it does not exhibit growth. Earnings growth is a major driver of stock price, and no growth = no increase in stock price.
what was my point? the coffee hasn't kicked in yet.
oh yeah, IMO eventually the tried and true method will result in stale movies just barely making profits with little or no earnings growth. That's not what alot of stockholders want, you can get that kinda performance from bonds! Risk is proportional to amount of reward expected.
What I would like to see is a spinoff from the major Hollywood houses, into smaller (publicly tradeable) production companies. Therefore, if I want to invest in a Company that thinks Matrix:Rebooted, revisited, & Re-MD5-Hashed will be profitable I can invest there. Or if I think the upstart company feels that never been done b4 productions will be profitable, I can put my money there. Most likely a combination of the two based on my risk aversion profile (risky).
This channel had so much potential, and has, with a very few notable exceptions (Dune) failed miserably at its mission of giving us a quality sci-fi expierience.
Other than running old Star Trek episodes, most of their rerun fare is crap. Instead of showing things like Six Million Dollar Man episodes, and continuing with Farscape, they give us complete shit like Crossing Over with John Edwards.
And now they've taken a big 'ole piss on the fans of Battlestar Galactica. Reimagining my ass. They compare what they did to Star Trek TNG, but it's not even close:
TNG built on Star Trek's legacy with new characters, not "reimagining" existing ones
TNG didn't make Captian Kirk a chick
TNG didn't taunt fans of the old series by telling them that if they didn't like it, "the popcorn is in the next aisle".
This new series isn't BSG, no matter what the logo says. Starbuck is a cigar chomping, skirt chasing MALE pilot. Apollo doesn't hate his dad, Cylons neither look human nor have glowing orgasms.
I'm sick of hollywood types tuning a blind eye to fans concerns to make a quick buck (the new Six Million Dollar Man movie will be a comedy....with Jim Carrey as Steve Austin; I just want to fuckin' murder someone over that one). These people have no respect for the mythology of the stories. Rick Berman is the worst of the bunch.
I won't be watching this piece of shit, and in fact, haven't watched the sci-fi channel in the better part of a year. The Discovery Channell or A&E is better time spent these days.
Life is hard, and the world is cruel
* Computers are evil.
* LAN/WAN are evil.
* Implants are evil.
* Espionage is evil.
* Hacking is evil.
* Androids infilitrators & saboteurs are evil.
* Sneak attacks are evil.
* Missiles & beam weapons are evil.
* Nukes are evil.
* A Cyclon Raider being able to polish off an entire squad of colonial vipers, droping a nuke on a city or nuking a Battlestar......PRICELESS.
Then shouldn't it have been called "Silicone Highway"? :-)
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Actually, a good amount of anime comes from manga (comics). Manga has a very long and rich history in Japan, so there is a creative well for the anime industry to tap into. From time to time, there are purely original anime works, but a lot of manga comes from pre-existing, established storylines. You could argue that this is kind of what happened with Lord of the Rings. Take an established, popular story and put it into a new format that will attract new audiences. Note, I'm not trying to say that anime played any role in making the LotR movies great. :)
An interesting problem that long anime series run into, though, is when the anime producers catch up to the storyline of the manga. At this point, you either have to end the series, or the anime staff must come up with stories on their own, which don't always match the quality of the original storyteller. Or they can try working with the creator to have the anime and manga try to go along a similar storyline, but it gets really difficult. You could say that this might be the anime industry's form of sequel-itis.
If all you have are silver bullets, everything looks like a werewolf.
...men in positions of political and military power have never before in the history of the human race done something stupid in order to gain the affections of an attractive woman.
Nope, not realistic at all.
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Come on everyone, let us thaank Canada for providiing the catalyst for television programming, practically everything is filmed up there on account of the fact that it looks just like the US (sans tons of smog) but cheaper. Canada, I salute you.
And yet, before movies, they show commercials with some lighting or grip guy telling how piracy is hurting his income. I would think moving production to cheaper locales would have rather more of an effect...
Ooh, a sarcasm detector. Oh, that's a real useful invention.
If SFC really wans to give audiences a fair chance to compare, they should show, in sequence:
(1) The entire original BSG series.
(2) Their travesty of a miniseries.
(3) Their new (probably equally horrible) series.
On a strictly personal note, my own viewing would end where #1 in that list does. What little I saw of SFC's BSG miniseries, before I started feeling physically sick and switched channels, felt like it had all the depth of a half-full toddler's wading pool.
I wonder which sound FX from which series they're going to steal next?
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I thought it was interesting that they pretty much stole that plotpoint from the US bombing Baghdad the first time - the CIA had supplied flawed technology to Iraq that made their modern Artillery unable to hit US warplanes, so they ended up having to manually aim the guns to get any planes shot down.
:)
What really got to me more than anything was the shoddy medicine - it was worse than Star Trek's bad medicine (they can do nothing for someone 2 seconds dead? Give me a break - a real ER would be working on the guy for 10 minutes). The Cylons can create perfect replicas of people, and yet the humans that built them can't even cure cancer. Sheez - I suspect we'll have a cure for cancer _long_ before we have BattleStar sized space ships... Didn't the first BSG just shove injured people into little plastic shells and they heal automatically in there (yeah, it's vague on how, but there could be nanobots in there).
More ranting... not virus, trojan... I guess that's forgivable - I recently finished reading the Blue Nowhere, and apparently all the expert Deaver researched through _also_ got that wrong. Morons, the lot of them
As long as there will be no "New Battlestar Galactica 1980^W2010" in 6 years from now, it'll be fine with me.
All the cancelled *good* series, like Firefly, and they have to remake one of the worst skiffy series ever made?
I have *no* intention of watching. I still remember incedulosity at the pilot of the original series (22 planets straffed to death by fighters, not bombers...), and then nearly barfing over...I think it was called "Fire in the Ship", where the Cattlecar is apparently made of plywood, since so much of it burns, and blast/emergency doors don't shut, and a landing bay that appears to be open to space that allows a fire to keep burning, and having to use the magnets on explosives to walk across the outside of the ship, since they had no other way to do it, and they couldn't simply depressurize....
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Lets hope it gets even better - quality and fX and acting...
Doing that show 'on the cheap' will turn into a real pile of Feldercarb!
Great. So we can expect a lot more alien environments that look a lot like the back woods around Vancouver.
Sweeps week.
a sexy blonde victorias secret model android at that.
You have to love a story where the brass get to space their own ship's DC squads.
I liked the miniseries. I wonder how many of you people who are whining actually sat down and watched the whole thing. And if you did actually watch it you probably went into it already hating it without seeing it first. So in order to save face and say you were right you would never admit that it wasn't that bad of a miniseries.
Everyone made up their minds before the thing even aired so its no surprise that they still hate it. Wouldn't want to look like you were wrong, would you?
have you no TiVo?
I, for one, welcome our cyborg, human-like, sex-crazed overlords!
The only problem with your theory is that the original Battlestar Galagtica SUCKED ASS, and the new series is actually cool, whereas Star Trek TNG built on something good and made it better. I think the new Galactica Series is excellent taken on it's own.
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Heck, if nothing else, look at Prince of Tennis, a series following a junior tennis player. 83 episodes, 40 managa volumes, and at least one hentai doujinishi (don't ask how I ran into that one...) about tennis. Only in Japan...
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I just checked ... it was "silicone highway"
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That's my problem
Is that about Legacy of Kain: Defiance? Awesome game.
I'm glad you agree =).
I would definitely recommend checking out the first Soul Reaver if you liked Defiance. The combat isn't as sophisticated (it's closer to Ico, if you've played that), but it's got a great Metroid-esque exploration element and of course provides the backstory for the games that came afterwards.
+1 bonus pre-emptively removed for being offtopic.
"...always new atoms but always doing the same dance, remembering what the dance was yesterday." -Richard Feynman
"Babylon 5? "
'...with a very few notable exceptions' ; That means more than one, but not very many. Sorry I didn't include YOUR personal favorite to make my argument meaningful.
"Voyager?"
'TNG'; Voyager is not TNG. Voyager is the brainchild of Rick Berman, and Rick Berman is a shitstain on the shorts of humanity, as another poster so elequently put it.
"I can think of things that deserve more respect than BSG TOS. "
Not if you're a fan, and if you're not a fan, you shouldn't be fucking with it.
"Kinda makes you wonder how you know it's a 'piece of shit' then, doesn't it?"
Because I used to watch it a lot, and got fed up. How long do I HAVE to watch it before I can declare it's shitty? And do I have to keep checking? If something starts tasting bad, you learn not to eat it.
If you want to eat shit, that's fine.
Life is hard, and the world is cruel
Hmmm. They cancel Farscape (their highest rated show) and order new thirteen episodes of the remake of the unlamented Battlestar Pond^H^H^H^HGalactica?
I was soooo happy they put out the fire on Galactica so quickly in the remake. Even at 11 years old I was yelling at the TV "Open a door!" when they spent an entire episode putting out a fire on the original series.
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I wish someone would get those boobs of my TV .Why is it that the proponents of "one nation under God" are so eager to get rid of "liberty and justice for all"?
Eh, SCI-FI channel, quit fangwangling with the classics. I snagged a glimpse of your remix the other day, and quickly flipped back to the bowling channel... Leave the remix(es) to the crap artists and face hardware rockers. Even they do a better job at it than you... Peace out, much love, and...down with whitey.
I hope, when they die, cartoon characters have to answer for their sins.
I thought Voyager was going to be like this. Instead it was just stupid.
The problem with Star Fleet Personnell is that they are all just so well balanced. They are also VERY clean.
I was expecting to see a ship that progressively got more and more fucked up as they moved along. More integration with aliens. A small "fleet" of ships (wagon train).
Basically, I expected Galactica in the Star Trek universe.
Instead it just sucked!!!!
BTW, the 7 of 9 show wasn't all that bad.
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I think you are looking at the past with rose colored glasses. Have you forgotten the overpriced musicals and the horde of sex comedy movies.
Annectdotale Evidence: I saw a really old B&W movie on AMC. It was one of the first films made by an immmigrant film maker, and it was really good. After sitting through this movie, the first thing I thougt to myself was "Where did movies like this hide?, I never saw very many." It seems like the only good movies from the past were based off of books, and the problem with that is that movies based off of books have an unnatural dialog. They aren't really movies in their own right - distinguished as an art form.
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I was a big fan of the mini-series so this is great news. I thought the story was well (re)done and the performances were quite good as well. Didn't think I'd ever be saying "oooh, Starbuck!", but oh well.
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Good deal, I was really pissed when they only showed two episodes. I thought we were in for the whole series. Techies and geeks need SCI-FI. It isn't quite as good as what my XYL has in mind for VDay but there are 364 other days.
By filming in Canada, the production companies don't have to pay union rates to the hordes of support personal required to make the films. This out sourcing significantly brings down costs, while still providing a location with white, English-speaking extras and close proximity to the US, to accommodate "name" US actors.
Not only can we speak English in Canada, we can even spell personnel. You're of English descent... learn the language!
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First of all, I can't see how anyone could have honestly modded this as off topic.
Second, God I hope so! The biggest difference to me between the SciFi channel series and the original is that I really want to see Starbuck naked in this one.
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Not only can we speak English in Canada, we can even spell personnel. You're of English descent... learn the language!
Yeouch. I'm embarrassed. In my defense, I do know the difference, but I type pretty badly, and tend to automatically accept the first choice the spell checker gives to typo'd words.
But still, embarrassing.
Thanks for teh heads-up.
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So, does the new series follow the book of Mormon?
http://www.proaxis.com/~sherlockfam/art5.html
--Are you KIDDING? You must not have watched it very much. Sure, Lexx was eccentric and somewhat transparent with all the sex jokes, but the ACTING ability of the people involved was of pretty high caliber.
--The actress who plays Xev (Xenia Seeberg) actually did a dead-on rendition of the Prince char's mannerisms over a couple of episodes; very subtle, but noticeable. And Kai - well, Kai is just a cool and unique char in and of himself. Prince (Nigel Bennett) is very complex and tragic - sometimes you reluctantly admire him, sometimes you despise him. But he's never boring!
--Yeah, AFAIConcerned you could replace Stanley and 790 and they prolly wouldn't be missed, but the 3 people above are reason enough to watch the show, for me.
--BTW, Dieter Laser (Mantrid) put in a pretty powerful performance, as well; and Bunny (Patricia Zentilli) was hot in a skinny-athletic kind of way. She was better with the short-hair look though, IMHO.
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