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Flash 7 for Linux Released
molarmass192 writes "Looks like Macromedia has finally made good on their word and provided Linux with a current version of Flash player. Improvements over Flash 6 include a speed boost and support for SOAP. Here's the requisite download link. I took a few seconds to get it set up and the response is noticeably snappier than version 6. In particular, the audio/video sync problems in version 6 seems to have been taken care of. Now, I wonder where they hid that Shockwave player for Linux?"
Looks like those Linux users finally get all the fun.
... they'd release the authoring tool in a Linux version?
Screw you all! I'm off to the pub
Now, I wonder where they hid that Shockwave player for Linux?
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It's also available as packages for all major distributions from here..
Assume I was drunk when I posted this.
The context-sensitive menus in the Flash plug-in on ALL platforms seem to have some major issues. You right-click over a Flash animation in a Web page, and sometimes you get the ability to change the quality... sometimes you don't. Sometimes, all you get is a useless "options" screen that lets you change things like microphone volume and camera (!!!???) settings, but not things like, oh, speaker volume or video quality. I've seen this problem in Mozilla for Linux and in IE for Windows. WTF up with that?
Honey, I shrunk the Cygwin
Tried the install package on SuSe 9.0 and works like a charm. The only drawback is that the user needs to know where their mozilla/firefox is installed. Works noticably faster than before (I also have the feeling that it eats much less CPU time). Next improvement: no flash at all! ;-)
Here are some cool flash games with our favorite bird:
http://yeti.e-medien.com/e_playonline.php#
Have fun
By chance I downloaded the newest version as I was reinstalling everything else too. But it still has "jerks" whenever I play a flash game. My slower windows box doesn't have this problem. The problem is reproducible on all three of my linux machines, no matter the processor speed. It makes it especially difficult to play a game like this since there are unexpected jerks in movement.
Flash 7 for Linux Released I almost jumped in joy thinking that Flash will be released natively for Linux. Flash is the application itself, Flash player is the standalone player and web browser plugin. Oh well.
Where is my PPC flash player? Where oh where is it!?!
Does it finally exist? I do so hope....
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now only if others would follow their footsteps, come on AOL, please release a real version of AIM, not that gtk1 POS, and come on Apple release iTunes for linux! Oh well thank god for wine..
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No PPC version again I fear. At least I couldn't find it.
Bummer!
I've had many emails passed back and forth with Macromedia tech support .. there are versions for most Unix implementations, and MacOS 9 and X .. but not for Linux/PPC *sigh* .. it wouldn't be that difficult to run just one more compile, would it ?
..and boy is it ugly! ;)
props to Macromedia on this one.
It's made it through (currently) six repetitions of Badgers with excellent synchronization (as opposed to version 6 not even making one). Hell, everything's so crisp and fluid... it's beyond further words.
Has anyone tried this speedup trick in other distro's? I doubt that it's Gentoo specific:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=176167
The gist of it is setting an environment var:
export FLASH_GTK_LIBRARY=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
People in the Gentoo forum are claming massive speed increases when viewing flash. I'm about to go try it now...
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It's nice to see companies supporting Linux, but unfortunately I can't use it until they make a amd64-version since 64-bit browsers can't use 32-bit plugins..
The Linux kernel can run 32-bit code but can't link to 64-bit code so to have a 32-bit browser I'd have to also have 32-bit versions of all the libraries it depends on, and their dependancies, all the way down to glibc and ld.so.. Not worth it.
Is it possible to run isolated 32-bit code inside a 64-bit program? Something like an exec32() libc-function or something? To make 64-bit Mozilla run Flash and make 64-bit MPlayer load win32-codecs.. I'm sure you'll have to make some kind of wrapper-code to convert int-sizes etc when sending/getting data from/to the library, but would it be possible at all?
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The parent poster has an excellent point. If these developers write quality code, and I have no reason to suspect that they do not, why not drop a few hundred bucks on a single PPC box that you can start a GCC make on, and let it run for a week if need be?
At the very least, you would have an excellent testbed. AND, IIRC, the US Navy is moving to PPC/Linux. Imagine the wargames... Flash/Shockwave Battleship!!!
Macromedia Sales: Would that not make it WAY easier to land a HUGE contract with the Defense Dept?
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And the Linux/Arm one ? And the Linux/alpha one ? etc.
This is the proprietary magic : you just don't have the control or the possibility to see them come unless Macromedia themselves choose to release one.
A simple and good reason not to use neither encourage or support this kind of proprietary, non-standard format.
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This could of course just be me but it seems that the sync of video/audio is still not exactly right. I tested it by running this clip http://www.cybermoonstudios.com/8bitDandD.html but alas it didn't work. perhaps I should remove the v.6 plugin first. Oh well.
It's not the player, the authors intentionally disable that functionality. Hence, getting rid of the ability to do so would be alienating their developer customer base.
Engaging in such practices usually mandates a buyout by Microsoft beforehand.
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Nothing to wonder even if they(Macromedia) starts to work with FireFox floks for doing something beyond the plugin stff. The technology landscape is changing!
This trick is no longer needed after upgrading to version 7. The plugin will work fine with both gtk1 and gtk2 version of Mozilla / Firefox.
Why would you want it?
Flash is internet pollution. (X)HTML is lighter-weight and thus faster, more accessible for people with disabilities, and just generally less crap. Plus, Google can tell you about the content of (X)HTML pages, but nothing, from Google to grep, can parse the content of a Flash movie. Flash has a nice little niche for silly animations and games, but it has become a cancer on the web as a navigation and content-presentation interface. An increase in its reach isn't something to celebrate.
Now seems a good time to introduce flashblock. Very ironic, isn't it?
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oh wait, there's a fucking shit ton of sites that use it.
other than that, i don't know why you'd want flash.
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This is one of the few times you'll hear me honestly ask "is it open source?" I ask because I would love to see an IRIX version of this for my Silicon Graphics Octane workstation, and I know it's not going to happen otherwise. The IRIX world is stick at version 5 with few alternatives.
Yeah, yeah, I know, flash sucks. But sometimes you need to have it to visit certain sites. Sure beats having to fire up my PC just o look at the newest movie site.
And yes, SGIs are oldschool. But Octanes are pretty cheap on eBay and are becoming common with we hardware collectors (if you're not that type, you probably know one... house full of computers with at least one working Amiga and probably a NeXT cube too). And it makes for a great main workstation!
"Looks like Macromedia has finally made good on their word and provided Linux"
GNU/Linux works on various platforms although the x86 port is the most common. I don't see x86 anywhere in the announcement, do you? If we had the source we had the freedom to compile it on any arch and OS we wanted to. A proprietary software package isn't a contribution to us if our goal is freedom.
It is the problem with non-free software.
Flash is a lead lined cudgel with which talentless unfunny people can flesh out their poorly designed and impossible-to-navigate websites. (or, if they're really talentless, they just ship them off to sites like newgrounds.com) I have personally lost count of the number of times I've had my browsing experience ruined by an annoying as hell flash banner ad spawning in the middle of my screen, or a homepage so slowed and crippled by flash that I left and never returned.
Of course this isn't the only problem, trolls such as the GNAA are known to use this in their browser crashing Shock Sites. Which force users of MSIE to end the entire process to stop the endlessly respawning windows. And this is just the tip of an iceberg of security issues.
As a result of this (and this "last measure" especially) I decided to abandon windows altogether and become another convert to *nix. So I think you can forgive me for not celebrating the porting of this pesterware to Linux, nor will I be letting it anywhere near my linux box. Regular banner ads are annoying enough thank you.
Please disconnect from the internet immediately.
It's impossible that your connection to Slashdot or whatever is only accomplished through "Free" software.
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Mozilla with flash player 7.0 opens the flash animations, in the same way as it used to do with flash player 6.0. I could'nt find any difference with the new plugin. If somebody could tell me a way to find the difference, it would be great.
Dreamweaver? What kind of programmer uses Dreamweaver?
I dunno. I'm not even that old; I'm 21. I've been programming since I was 9, and compared to a lot of people that's still nothing to how long they have been. Either way, I absolutely cannot stand that damn program.
How does it pay for itself?? I can understand the color coding helps, but you can get a much less bloated program to do color coding.
WYSIWYG editors for true website design are a waste.
I stand by my theory that you put up your best Dreamweaver man, and your best hand coder, and ask them to fix a problem and then see who pays for themselves.
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Cool tip, thanks!
BTW, how does Flash 7 compare to Flash 5 and 6 in terms of performance on older hardware?
Just toss those two files into /usr/lib/browser-plugins and away you go.
Works fine with Mozilla, Firefox, also.
Didn't test it with Epiphany etc.
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ARG... Still no 64bit release... this is really anoying.. If I want to use 64bit native browser I can't have flash... grrr...
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Hell still crashes firefox.
*sigh* I was hoping 7.x would fix that.
No, I did not read the f***ing article!
I suppose you never look at Macromedia's 10-Q filings and don't have stock in this company?
If you did you'd note that the concern about bankruptcy is not one listed.
At any rate, the close source of their tool which is becoming ubiquitous within the Web Communities gives Macromedia a business advantage. Why the hell would they open source this? This makes as much sense as Apple open sourcing Quartz/Quartz Extreme or QuickTime.
You don't base your company around a non-open-source model and then when you are strong give away your crown jewels of technology, just to satisfy the ideology of the open-source community.
Perhaps if they redesigned flash to leave a necessary portion open-sourced and then made money off of custom tools than we might see a change of business.
I second that statement, a text editor should be all you ever need.
There's mischief and malarkies but no queers or yids or darkies within this bastard's carnival, this vicious cabaret.
I have never used Dreamweaver, but every time I've seen others use it, the code produced is horrid.
I don't see a reason to use it- if you have enough skill with (X)HTML/CSS, you should be able to create a webpage that takes up half the bandwidth and works on all browsers. Sure, it may take a little longer but I'd rather take the 2min to make an efficient page instead of building a hacked up one in 1min.
In your haste to rant about how much you hate everyone else on then Intarweb, you've missed or ignored a pretty major point: Flash is just a tool. How about this:
HTML is a lead lined cudgel with which talentless unfunny people can create their poorly designed and impossible-to-navigate websites. (or, if they're really talentless, they just ship them off to sites like geocities.com) I have personally lost count of the number of times I've had my browsing experience ruined by an annoying as hell animated gif banner ad spawning in the middle of my screen, or a homepage so slowed and crippled by dynamic HTML that I left and never returned.
I suspect most of us would agree with that to an extent, but we don't vow never to look at a webpage again.
Some Flash is very good. Deal with it, move on, use the appropriate browser/plugin to make Flash content optional.
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Sometimes I just want to wget a swf file and view it at a later time.
Of course, it could be I'm missing the point here, and that Flash needs to be a proprietary format for it's business model to work.
(Pretend for a minute that Flash was the bright idea of some other company that begins with an "M"... how would you feel about it?)
Friends don't let friends use Flash.
Someone hates these cans.
I wonder where I can try that out... It seems that in the past few months I have adblock'ed all flashes on the sites I usually visit :)
I flat out refuse to download Flash until Macromedia releases the source code
Having the source code available would not suddenly make Flash a useful technology.
Flash is anti-useful.
It is an excuse for web developers to use eye-candy instead of content (as if they needed one) on their sites. And so continues the gradual and complete dilution of useful content on the internet. The bonus is that it is an effective way of marking a site 'useless' during long and painful web searches.
Future Wine support is a monstrous idea. Releasing a version for Linux makes business sense, but are people seriously considering running Wine just to browse the internet?
I allow for exceptions, but I have seen very few sites which actually use Flash to present useful content in a sensible way. This would, unfortunately, force me to use it. I have seen none recently, because I don't use the plug-in. I flat out refuse.
Is there a free software SWF player for Firefox that will play fairly modern stuff? ie. Can I watch H*R whilst retaining my freedom?
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YOU don't see a reason for it. There are people out there that see no reason for a GUI on a computer, but are you going to give a shit what they say? I mean, you can do stuff just as fast on the command line! Faster, even!
I'm making a point I hope you'll get.
'Standards' in computing only impress those who are impressed by things like 'standards'.
(Meanwhile, over in engineering they call it "Nightmareweaver".)
And so is DNS, and BIND, and EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU MORON. Being open does NOT preclude something from having security holes. Get off your high horse and shut the fuck up.
'Standards' in computing only impress those who are impressed by things like 'standards'.
Why would you want it?
Because I happen to enjoy silly animations and games.
You say that as if there is something wrong with enjoying 'silly animations and games'. I do. So do many other people.
It may also be inaccessible, but every day people enjoy things that aren't globally accessible, from various forms of media and art to sports and recreation. How do you make animation accessible to those with vision difficulties?
One could write a story instead, but then you have something totally different. Hypertext has been around for decades, and text itself for millennia, and they serve their purpose. Animation serves another.
There will always be people who choose a poor method of presenting their content on the web. Even without Flash, it's still possible to have poorly-navigable sites with too many fonts, and garish colours, et cetera.
The way to solve it is not to discourage the use of Flash, as if it were inherently wrong, but to encourage and show examples of good design and presentation when Flash is not called for.
This may be a niche, but I for one am quite happy that such a niche exists, and is available to Linux users. I'd like to think that one day SVG will be a better alternative and we can all switch to that, but for now there's Flash.
If you don't like it, don't install it. But don't expect others to do the same.
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Actually, I installed the plug (plague?) just because those silly anoying dialogs from latest mozilla for nonexistent plugin, which cannot be suppressed. Imagine viewing a news page with 4-5 flashes on it is a real pain clicking [cancel].
Yes, I know real geeks will turn away in disgust just as with any other binary pollution. But I need an equivalent of Infernet Exploder with flash on linux just because my bank does not support anything other.
So I bear no geek pride and no geek prejudices. Now, I will disassemble that libflashplayer.so. I wonder what kind of surprise may lurk down in the code. And no, I will not share THAT knowledge with you, sorry. I'll keep it for myself. Let me begin yes it's mozilla plugin interface, so
Better to make some coffee...
There you are, staring at me again.
If there was ever a reason to have flash, it would be Homestar Runner.
Also, some people such as composer Eric Whitacre use it to give the site a "mood" of sorts, and navigation is still decent (my mouse wheel works, and copy/paste have been implemented). Yes, I'd rather be romping about with my tabs but, I'll live.
Spoon not. Fork, or fork not. There is no spoon.
The parent is at least partly right:
I see absolutely no reason for Macromedia not to open-source their plugin.
It would solve numerous problems relating to performance, stability and platform support.
It's not like Macromedia is making any money on the player. As a matter of fact, they need to invest in the development en distribution of a free player in order to sell their content creation tools!
And even if Macromedia would still not open-source their player, I still can't understand why nobody is working on an open-source Flash 7 compatible alternative.
The specifications are available, right?
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It seems to be a little slower than in Mozilla, but due to all the convenience in browsing with konqueror, I'll stick with it. Now, if only Java worked (consistently) in konqueror...
Because vector graphics authoring tools that use motion SVG are, at their beta stage of development, quite poor?
Because HTML/XML can't play movie trailers, whereas Flash's Sorenson codec, native on Linux, can?
Because unlike Java, Flash UI is responsive. unlike DHTML its actually designed for forms, and unlike ActiveX, its cross platform.
I use a text editor and a browser window. Hit Alt-Tab and refresh the browser. Yes, of course, it *could* me more immediate than that, but at least you are sure that the page will work in your browser, not just in Dreamweaver
Macromedia still don't care about Linux in any meaningful fashion - wake me up when Flash 8 comes out simultaneously on Windows and Linux (Mozilla can do it with a Web browser that's 1,000 times more complex, so why not a browser plug-in?), when Shockwave Player finally appears on Linux and when Macromedia's entire Windows product range is available natively on Linux. Only then can you finally say Macromedia is taking Linux seriously - Oracle switched (albeit from Solaris)...c'mon Macromedia, make the same move...
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64-bit machines are mainly servers. The real advantage in going to 64 bits is when you have large databases, where you must address more than 2Gb of data at a time. For desktop applications, I fail to see an advantage in 64 bits. Even if you do graphics editing, where files may be very large, the overhead isn't that big, because editing is done more or less sequentially. 64 bits shine when you have many users, each accessing different parts of a very large data set at the same time.
Technology IS neutral is has no biases to be bloody anything. At its most fundamental, are you suggesting that rocks are evil because people can get hit over the head with them? I point out we can also build houses and grind corn with them...both offically Good TM. Doesn't this make rocks neutral? See that's why we say tools are neutral...
"Flash is a non-standard, proprietary data format" er no it isn't, flash SWF is an open STANDARD data format. Flash player is a free proprietary player for this open standard. Flash MX 2004 is a Proprietary piece of software that produces SWF files.
"*completely* contrary to every principle behind the design of the internet"
You really have no clue about this whole internet business at all do you? Who exactly do you think designed it, and for what purpose?... (I'll give you a clue, if you can fit it in a post your model is too simplistic.)
I have my eyes closed, until you show me a picture I think is good enough, I'll keep them closed.
How's that whole blind thing working out for ya?
I presume of course you only use lynx to browse?
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Reads: Here's your notice if case we wish to track you or your usage of the software.
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...a nice little menu option in mozilla saying "block flash from this server".
There are clearly 11 badgers before the two mushrooms.
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Still it might be possible that giving away the code would teach competitors how to implement players, so that would have to be carefully evaluated. I suspect the really valuable IP is in the media creation tools, however.
The situation for Apple is somewhat different, since they profit from the fact that these tools don't run on all platforms. This doesn't really apply for Macromedia - for them the opposite is beneficial.
The Flash 8 player was released for Windows today.
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I presume of course you only use lynx to browse?
Occasionally, but not exclusively. My browsing needs are met by a number of applications and programming libraries depending on what is needed. There is no best browser. Certainly, I believe that images (lacking in lynx) are massively useful in portraying certain types of web content.
The blind analogy is false, and you have missed the point. A better description would be 'I shall open my eyes when I need to. I shan't get run over by a train, because I shall hear it coming'.
for what it's worth, "the US Navy" isn't a homogeneous environment when it comes to computer platforms. Our product has to support RHEL and Win2k, and I've heard of XP and HP-UX boxes, Macs, and even IIRC some QNX machines at various places.
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We're talking about desktop development tools here, not server products.
Oracle is a great database server with some fantastic features not found, for example, in MS SQL Server. However the Oracle (9) client tools are worse than SQL Server's from a usability standpoint.
Oracle's client tools run in Linux and Windows because they are Java (I'm thinking the Enterprise Manager Console and SQL Plus Worksheet here.) This is great for them working cross-platform but is not great for usability because they do not use standard UI interface features from the host OS. This has knock-on effects - for example, a scroll mouse doesn't work.
We might also note that Macromedia's server products such as ColdFusion and JRun all run on Linux. (And have run on other UNIXes such as Solaris for a lot longer.) There just isn't the market there for a desktop port of Flash; if there was, they would port it. Or you could use CrossOver Office.
In any case, the Flash specification is open, so you are free to write your own authoring tools for Linux. (Certainly there are third party tools on Windows.)
Ah! I understand now. You're just upset there isn't enough Flash Pr0n.
You want the Shockwave player for Linux? This is where the Slashdot Effect can actually help.
Go to the Macromedia 'wish form' and tell them you want Shockwave Player for Linux! Development over there seems to be demand-driven, so fill out the form. If they get enough requests, they might just do it.
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to someone who only cares about the way the site looks and isn't a strong enough coder to use PHP to help themselves out.
IE a graphic artist. Who has a windows or mac box already.
I mean, WTF? Dreamweaver is the last media creation application I want someone to spend time porting to non-OSX Unix.
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So now that we finally DO get all the fun, what were the first few sites you went to to actually experience our newly acquired proper flash abilities on Linux? First two sites that I hit were Ninjai and The Rasterbator.
Most likely they think they retain some type of advantage by restricting the most efficient version of the player. However, Macromedia's player isn't the only one available. Apple's Quicktime has had the ability to play back Flash since version 4.
A snippet from the press release: "Because the Flash format is vector-based, Flash content is bandwidth efficient and scales automatically to display as designed in any Web browser. The Flash file format (.swf) is an open standard: any software vendor can output Flash files by writing to the specification published on Macromedia's Web site at www.flash.com/open."
(note - if you want the spec, you should really be here instead. But again, when you download it, you agree not to transmit the spec to anyone else, and there's a rule in the license which basically amounts to "the player you design should actually work before you release it.")
Nope, not contradicting.
Maybe I just put it wrong. I always buy software just as music. Problem is only that people (in their minds) consider stealing a needle more problematic than to make illegal copy of some software.
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I don't get any jerks, but I still get the out-of-sync problem I used to. (The true test of a new installation libflashplayer.so is, of course, to direct your web browser to Homestar Runner ^_^) And here's a bizarre twist: my old libflashplayer.so (version 6) one day just stopped having the latency problems altogether... and now they're back. Call me crazy, and maybe I'm imagining things, but I'm pretty sure that's what happened!
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One of the biggest drawbacks of Mozilla / Firebird is that I can't see Shockwave. I have tried installing the Netscape plugin several times, and it hasn't worked. This is a problem because I am much more familiar with development in Director Lingo, rather than Flash ASP. Does anyone else have this problem?
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in my opinion, the value of Dreamweaver is not necessarily in its WYSIWYG whatever crap, but in its project management and its streamlining of the design process. You can write the same code in a number of different programs, but when you're dealing with anything over than twenty dynamic webpages (with their associated template and include files) it sure is handy to have something like Dreamweaver or GoLive to help you make sense of your mishmash of files... if you're a bit scatterbrained like me, that is.
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Where the fuck did I mention copyright infringement (or you ment copying without permission, in that case, MY BAD)? That wasn't the case.
Agree with better terms. English is my fourth language so, yes thase are terms I had in mind.
p.s. So that's why most home Windows users preffer illegal M$Office instead of free OO.org? Because they don't directly harm anyone. I see your logic, yep, it prevails all other. This logic is so very dilbert.com
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Do you know if Illustrator works well under Wine? I would bet that most Flash developers care more about Illustrator support that Photoshop support.
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One of my major problems with the flash 6 for linux was how it handled the fade ins and outs that you find in a lot of things on newgrounds. It took 5 to 10 times longer to actually do it compared to the Windows version. Some games also had a problem with the same timing. For a long time, I used crossover office just for the flash plugin but I got frustrated with it crashed constantly and having to reload or cleanup just to download a new flash. Thankfully, the new version actually does a fade in and out properly and one of my favorite music videos in flash, There she is! is almost perfect on my box.
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It comes back to the point that by stealing the needle, you are depriving someone else the legitimate use of that needle. If, however, I could make a copy of that needle, the bar to doing the wrong thing drops dramatically.
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Flash has a nice little niche for silly animations and games
Maybe because I happen to *like* playing some of those "silly games" or those "silly animations" which are often quite decent little animated movies or even quality cartoons
Do I see you not using email because a bunch of idiots use it to send viagara spam? No...? didn't think so.
Blame those that misuse the tool to create crap, not those that make it, and certainly not those that use it to view content.
Tried the new plugin on FC2 using firefox, and RH9 under mozilla 1.6 and it still seems broken to me.
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The flash plugin under crossover plugin works fine, but the A/V sync in the new plugin is still messed up.
E.g.
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail104.
I woke up this morning and discovered I had the flash v7 web plugin on my fedora system, courtesy of the nightly apt-get cron job - coolness, it seems to be working fine.
Why does no one mod the parent up? This site claims to be the official package-download site, and personally I'd much rather install an rpm than leave "loose" files on my system.
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The problem is that very few people are competent coders and designers. Dreamweaver is for designers. Code editors are for, well, coders. Many development shops will have designers who use WYSIWYG tools to create a design which is then passed to the coders who will actually make it work.
There's not a thing wrong with that. The right tool for the right job and all that jazz.
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Because the two past Flash players for Linux have been horribly laggy with both video and sound, as well as poor image quality. Is this version as fast as the Windows/Mac version?
.. because of all the ads that use it. It seems like a highly effective way for blocking ads.
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I think you'll find that Oracle doesn't care that the Admin tools don't look the same as Mozilla or don't use the GTK, and it doesn't hurt usability just because they don't look as pretty as your desktop. Java was chosen for one reason, because it made the tools look and act exactly the same no matter what OS you decided to run. That makes them far more usable then having them look one way on Windows, another on Linux and a completely different way on Solaris.
If you don't like it don't use them, there's a whole host of tools for interacting with the Oracle Server.
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Macromedia, you proprietary whore. I hope an opensource alternative overtakes the market and burry's you deep. You've got a petition that has brought to your attention numerous times requesting flash on ppc and probably numerous other architectures..
952 signatures isn't enough.. ? go to hell..
The road between democracy and tyranny is paved with secrecy in the name of security.
Awwwww, now I feel bad...
I guess I'll have to go spend some of the gobs of money I'm making programming Flash to make myself feel better!
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I'll get right on that...
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Just thought that I would note that Flash 7 on Debian Linux Unstable installed easily(untar, drop 2 files in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ and start the browser.
This is the first time that a flash plugin has actually worked for me under Debian/Mozilla-anyflavor/Gnome Desktop(not that the desktop matters)
I sincerelly hope you don't write software with this attitude (at least not commercial, I do both GPL (out of love) and commercial (for my daily bread)). Believe me there's no difference, when your work is at question.
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Fedora Core 1 (x86_64) shipped with a 32-bit version of Mozilla presumably because Mozilla wouldn't build for x86_64 at the time (there were patches but not in the official release). In Core 2, it's now 64-bit, so the same plugin no longer works.
I try not to, but sometimes fail.
Looking at my computer right now, I have 11 programs running. 3 are OS, 3 are freeware, 3 I paid for, and 2 I 'acquired'.
If I need/want a program and can afford it, I'll buy it. If I can't afford it, I'll try and find an alternative that's free. If I can't do that, then I'll acquire it. Having got this far, I have already decided I can't buy it, so I'm not depriving them of a sale.
That, to me, is the justification I need to do it with a moderately clean conscience.
It's wrong, I know, but there is a big difference in my mind between losing something physical and losing something intangible. If I coded for a living, no doubt but I'd have your attitude.
I'm a Java architect and manager for a small multimedia company. For 95% of the work I do Linux is by far the best tool for the job. The only thing I'm missing is Flash. Now that I have the player that helps but if I could get the authoring tools that would be even better. I don't want to invest in a Windows license because that is not the best tool for my job.
Heck, I'll pay straight out of my own pocket for this.
User's of open source software don't buy software? Maybe. I write software. I don't mind paying for good software. And everyone at my company would rather buy Linux software then Windows software. So there!
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Roundbox Media
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You said "pirating software", that is what I would say if I meant something in the line of attacking a ship, and killing the tripulation in order to get the software on the ship.
Anyway, most people say "pirating software", when they mean "copying copyrighted software without authorization", which is best described as "copyright infringement". That means that you are infringing the copyright law, that says that you need to get authorization from an author to reproduce his written works (or something like that).
He could sue you, but in most countries ou wouldn't go to jail, and in many real cases, your "unauthorized copying" does not harm the author. On the other hand, if he had a ship, and you, by force, took control of it, in order to get the stuff it was carrying, the owner would probably be harmed, and you could probably be jailed (or institutionalized), and that would constitute "piracy".
They use MS office, because everybody has it, and they use closed formats, and interoperability is crap with other applications, but OO1.1 does a great job at writing, and a decent job at reading MS.DOC (much better than OO1.0), which is the most problematic.
Personally, either free, bought or none.
moderately clean conscience
Don't you think, that moderation bar goes higher with time. (take as population) Copying software is just becoming normal daily thing that no one cares about.
The only problem with humanity is that moderation is view in selfish view only. When persons job is at stake... Heeeeeeell NOOOO!
My attitude is just clean. Either it's free or commercial. Mine or others.
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I've also got a "slash" alias, that opens up a terminal window with slashdot in lynx. I've got my slashdot preferences set for light/minimal whatever they call it, which cuts down on some of the fugliness that might be (even more) irritating in lynx.
But the main reason I started rambling about this, is that I thought I'd mention that lynx and image browsing are not mutally exclusive. I think the key is adding a
to yourAnyway... Once you're configured like this you always have the *option* of looking at an image. You select it the way you would select any link, and it opens it in an external image viewer.
Selecting the right image can take a little practice, however (many sites are a forest of stupid little images of bullets and bars, and they *still* like to be skimpy on the ALT text).
As with many other tools, the virtues of lynx are intimately bound up in it's limitations. Looking at a site that insists on subdividing your screen into little boxes? Lynx will tend to linearize those, you'll see one thing after another. Does the site tend to inflict itty bitty fonts on you? In mozilla you may have to keep hitting Control plus and minus to adjust font size after every click, but in lynx, all text is displayed in the same uniform way that you've choosen. Is the site completely incomprehensible when viewed without all the graphical doodads? Well you know, maybe that means it's not worth looking at anyway...
And of course, lynx will *never* bug you to install a flash plug-in...
The problem with Shockwave is that it was never intended to be cross-platform. Shockwave (or at least, Macromedia Director) seems to make extensive calls to the Windows API to do a lot of the things it does (playing AVI movies comes to mind).
If you want Shockwave support for Linux/x86, you can use the Crossover plugin (now integrated with Crossover Office), which is made by CodeWeavers.
Looks like Macromedia has finally made good on their word and provided Linux with a current version of Flash player.
Damn you Macromedia!
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Pan Tarhei Hosé, PhD.
"Homo sum et cogito ergo odi profanum vulgus et libido."