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neura writes "In quite possibly the largest console auction ever, someone is selling just about every development kit and production game console ever made in Japan. They also have listed tons (almost literally) of software to go along with the systems. Anybody ever seen the original Super Famicom development system? The pictures alone are worth taking a gander. :)"
Let's get this out of the way:
1) This guy is the most dedicated console collector the world has ever seen!
2) This guy is the most fucked up collector the world has ever seen!
3) Imagine a Beowulf Cluster made out of them...
4) (Obligatory MS dig for the white Xbox at the end)
5) (Obligatory all you base belong to us joke)
6) Sure, but don't they support Ogg!
7) In Soviet Russia, the consoles buy you!
8) I have an Atari 2600, you insensitive clod!
9) Let's get this out of the way
10) ???
11) Not Profit!
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And just think... if only 3 people ever play it, it will have been the most successful 3DO game in the console's entire history!!!
HIGH BIDDER HAVE TO HELP FOR SHIPMENT & PAY ALL SHIPPING FEE, DUE TO ALL ITEMS MIGHT OVER 100KGs !!! HIGH BIDDER MAY HAVE TO PAY SOME THOUSAND US$ FOR SHIPMENT
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that's gonna be one hell of a shipping cost. it may be cheaper to rent a ship and go to hong kong to pick it up yourself
i guess if you are willing to pay 100k it may not be a big deal.
Marge, get me your address book, 4 beers, and my conversation hat.
The dude is selling this for $100,000 starting price. That's pretty insane. Unless you're a store wanting to resell this in a 3rd world country (even then, it'll be hard), you're not going to make your money back.
Truly this is only for the insanely obsessed console freaks.
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But that's just me. Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh well.
..but I wonder how much more he would have made if he'd listed each item individually, instead of a bulk lot? It'd be a fair bit of work (not massive, since he's already got the details for most of the items), but you think it'd probably be worth it.
"..INTERNATIONAL BONK TO BANK TRANSFER.."
I wish my bank offered Bonking services - maybe I wouldn't moan about their monthly fees if they did.
A dream is good. A plan is better.
Thank you for posting the address of the auction. If for nothing else it is worth looking at because of the photos as you indicated. Now if I only had an extra $100K laying around... hrm...
Oh yeah, and potential bidders, please note: He only accepts a "BONK TO BANK TRANSFER"... I don't know what a "BONK" is, must be some sort of Japanese institution. I'll ask my friend, he knows Japanese. Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooh well.
For a collection that large, I'd spend $100K any day.
I wouldn't doubt if the DOD made a bid... they can have "America's Army V. 2.0".
1) Buy this whole kit and kaboodle for $100K
2) Open the most bitching video game museum ever
say it with me now
3) PROFIT!!!
Seriously, I would easily pay $10 or $20 to see some of this stuff. This is probably the best chance an existing computer museum has to get a piece of console history in one fell swoop.
Of course, it's not like this guy couldn't have been so dedicated as to milk phones from a zillion different auctions and make up this whole thing as a prank.
- JoeShmoe
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The images are coming from his own web site, which is now slashdotted.
Nice. Just a few more university japanese courses so I can read the development manuals, a couple (or 80) grand to hustle up before the auction ends, and my ultimate goal of porting Mary-Kate & Ashley: Magical Mystery Mall to every system ever made can be realized.
I'll gladly pay for it through my escrow account. ;)
Imagine there'd be a geek with money. I know, that's very rare, but still... Wouldn't that said geek with money be interested to know there's another geek w/o money but with a ton of geek stuff waiting to be sold? There's your /. story.
/. for helping keeping the money in the family.
Thank you
Bitten Apples are still better than dirty Windows...
Don't you get the impression that the person listing the auction is not a naitive english speaker? All of the hardware is Japanese and the seller is located in Hong Kong. A few spelling errors doesn't change what you get.
If the guy really wanted to make money, he should have:
1. Sold them individually
2. Set up some kind of "viewing center" and charge admission. There are plenty of hardcore gamers and just plain curious people that would shell out $10 to check out his collection.
I was the same thing, mostly with the development and obscure stuff. For example, I imagine there would be alot of people in the current Dreamcast homebrew/emulation scene who would pay a bit for that DC development machine, not to mention the emulation types who might like some of the older development tools there.
As far as I know, the development kits are still Sony's property - they're understandably rather touchy about their intellectual property and would not want such a machine to fall into the hands of the general public. Specifically: I thought all development machines were still owned by Sony, you just pay for being able to use them.
I would not be suprised if he receives a visit from Sony's lawyers demanding the return of their development hardware...
Perhaps he should've realized that 'spelling' is important on something like this.
Really? That's interesting, because if I was a serious collector with the kind of dough he's asking for, I think I might be willing to forgive his spelling. Obviously, I may also be obliged to cut him a break after realizing that he's selling from Hong Kong, and english is likely not his native language.
That truly is a mighty console collection, although it's clear that this auction probably has better retro value, and is more affordable. Tis pity it's bigger than my house... :-(.
A few grammar errors do not change what you get either.
Hell at $100,000.00 US this is quite a bargain. ;)
I mean the Hello Kitty LE Dreamcast alone is worth it's weight in Gold. But with the N64 Pikachi-orange Limited Edition!?!?!?!?!
Ohhhhhh Man!
My experience with console development systems is that you have almost no rights to transfer/sell. Everything must be handled through Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo. I predict that, if they want to, they can confiscate all of his development systems. Maybe the rules are different in Japan, but I doubt it.
Yeah, and if I was serious enough about making a $100k sale, I'd spend 5 extra minutes with a dictionary and a spellchecker. Not to mention, that if I was serious about spending minimum of $100k, I'd run as fast as I could from a person who can't spell. This is ebay, you can't trust anybody, and things like poor spelling further make you look more like a scammer kiddie.
--- d'oh
Look at his selling history and active auctions. He's been selling this stuff on eBay for over FOUR YEARS. He has about 100 seperate items on sale right now. He is probably bored as hell of it. This auction was a great idea, even if no one bids the $100,000 dollars. It has generated HUGE amounts of publicity for him(it had 20,000 hits before it hit /.) If no one bids on it, he'll have no problem selling the items seperately. And maybe, just maybe, there's a video game obsessed nut rich enough to bid the 100k.
Nevermind, ebay's fine... it seems the pics were from sdk-team.com, so I'm not surprised.
Carry on.
Sigs are for losers
It's pretty obvious why he's selling all of that. He must be getting married and the bride-to-be said "you can either play with SEGA, or play with me, your choice"
Furthermore, he should sell everything over time. The most important thing in economics is scarcity, so he would not want to "flood the market".
And as is, he has forced demand down to near nothing, because how many people have a hundred thousand dollars to spare? It would be funny if nobody bid.
"GAME MUSEUM COLLECTION"
So this guy has a museum? Anyone know anything about this museum? I imagine he has to keep it all somewhere. I don't think all of this would even fit in my place.
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Misspelt? Realised? How does it feel to put your foot in your mouth?
If I were serios about making a 100k PURCHASE i would fly to hong kong to personally inspect the goods. The amount you spent on airfare, accomodation etc would easily be worth the cost to avoid disappointment / fraud. For 100K im sure the guy would let you look and test too.
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"For $100k I want the seller to understand business, he's likely never to come across money like this again"
So let me get this straight: lacking complete and utter command over the English language suddenly makes you a poor businessman?
Let's ask you a question: how many languages do you speak?
I'm sure you're a millionaire computer geek who knows it all, right? You MUST be entitled to talk down to anyone who isn't as holy as you. Someone who doesn't meet your expectations is somehow less of a person, right?
Take a break, you don't have to be an asshole every day of your life.
Looks like SDK will be turning a profit this quarter...
Maybe he's discovered that a wife or serious girlfriend is quite expensive to maintain and has decided to sell off the heirloom investment in order to pay for wife's shopping habits (clothes, jewellery, etc)
:D
Thankfully, my dear sweet wife doesn't read SlashDot
-- The universe began. Life started on a billion worlds...
-- Except on one where stupidity was there first.
Most gamers won't give a second thought to the large lot of Apple/Bandi Pippin game console items since the Pippin never had a successful launch in this hemisphere (not sure it did anywhwere actually).
There are still an army of Apple enthusiasts who would pay through the nose for the Pippin stuff if it had been sold bundled by itself.
Umm... The guy who's hosting the images got slashdotted, text showed up fine for me.
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First of all, at the price of the shipping, you mind as well go there yourself and have a nice trip? I mean hey... if you can afford $100 000 on all of this, then you can surely afford to go there AND get the stuff shipped in a private plane piloted by John Travolta (Simpsons anybody? Ah Geez!)
First of all, is all of this even worth 100 000? The number looks just too "round" for something as big as this.
"They also have listed tons (almost literally) of software..". Not wishing to pass up this opportunity to be anal (no, not even almost literally), I'd like to (a) point out that something is either literal or it's not and (b) how much does a bit weigh (and how many bytes in a ton)?
"Um, Dad... can I borrow $100,000?"
" WHAT?! "
"...plus shipping..."
Exactly.
I have a good friend who lived in Hong Kong until he was 15. He spells exactly like this guy's auction and uses similar phrases.
He is absolutely brilliant though, and his goofs at English on occasion are nothing compared to how he storms through classes at the U of A.
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He's in Hong-Kong. You know, the country 99% of Modchips, Pirated Games, and "Development Devices" come to the US from?
MS/Nintendo/Sony can't do squat.
I'm sure the seller has quite a bit of experience in this area. He is selling, amongst other things, a development version of the M2. They didn't just hand those out free with your cereal, you know. The M2 development systems were so rare that people doubted they were shipped at all. Add to that the DD development system (did those go outside of Nintendo?), and the Deramcast, Saturn, Playstation, SNK development systems, and you have a surprisingly rare bundle. Now add in the Supergraphix, the Pippin, several unopened bottles of launch wine, multiple PS2 tools (which normally e-bay for about 20k each, I might add), thousands of games, lots of rare variations of every system released in the past 15 years, and this really does deserve to cost a lot more than 100,000 dollars.
Note that the auctioneer makes classic Japanese to English blunders, like switching S for T. In Japanese pretty much all consonants are followed by a vowel, and hence "Dreamcast" is usually pronounced "Du Ri Mu Ca Su T." When dealing with a native English speaker, an inability so spell correctly is usually a sign of below-average intelligence and a general disregard for details. However, when dealing with a Japanese speaker nothing can be read into classic Japanese translation errors.
The ______ Agenda
Awesome. I especially liked the 'Bonk to Bank transfer'
This is the best Mary-Kate & Ashley ever! There are only stores you can play in.
1) Fash is a really fun store. You dress Mary-Kate & Ashley with lots of hairstyles, clothes, and shoes. Then, you go to the fashion show and take pictures of every outfit. If you got good pictures of each outfit, you win a gem!
2) Lizzie's Lunch is really easy. You serve people what they want on skates, but you have to do it quick before the customers get all mad and leave. If you get the right amount of money, you win a gem!
3) Just Say Snow is fun, but kind of hard. First you choose a board, then you choose an opponent. I would say you choose Bridget Winters, Jeff Rockett, and I think this girl named Cadjet Summers. They are really easy to beat. If you win 2 heats in each slope, you win a gem!
4) Music Nation was hard but I beat it anyway. You pick dance moves for your video. You can also choose the music, too. Then you record your video along with effects. You also have to submit your recording to the producer to win a gem.
5) Catch A Wave is fun! You have to get pictures of the two new lifeguards with you in it. Also,if you get a shot of the DJ, you get bonus points! There is a bonus boutique to unlock stuff or give you bonus stuff.
I like this game because of all the cool things you can do.
I have come to the conclusion that if the seller were to list each item separately, he would probably double or triple his returns.
If you honestly believe this you should buy the set, split it up, and relist it.
So because a college is liberal, they fail to grasp some of the basic tenets of capitalism?
Did you mean liberal arts? Or just an entire school with a liberal slant all the way through?
Dumbest question I've ever seen here.
"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned for sega."
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
Do you realise you're a dick?
I'm betting that if someone actually bids it'll be some dot-com millionare who cashed out before the bubble burst. Those are the only geeks with that kind of money...
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
Because Hong-Kong sure is a country... it isn't a city or anything like that
Sweet mother of god, he really does have a Pippin! Several of them! In fact, he probably owns every Pippin ever made, given that no one actually bought one.
I predict that, if they want to, they can confiscate all of his development systems.
I've seen a number of dev kits sold on eBay without intervention from the manufacturer.
It may be possible for them to confiscate the hardware, but would they really risk generating that kind of ill will from someone who is obviously a big gaming spender?
"...always new atoms but always doing the same dance, remembering what the dance was yesterday." -Richard Feynman
The seller is listed as living in Hong Kong, says so himself, and from "Member since: Mar-17-00" (Source) I would suspect he's been there for a while. His eBay name is "lingjr", which is probably stands for Ling Junior. That's not a Japanese name. Lastly, the romanization of Dreamcast is "", or if that doesn't render, "doriimukyasuto" (Source).
I'm not trying to be a dick. I just think he isn't Japanese.
I mean a liberal college. For the most part, they are preach socialism and how everyone should be of equal value. Share and share alike regardless if you earned or worked hard for it. ...no..I will shut up now. You do EVEN want me to get started on a rant. Besides, it would be off topic.
Life is not for the lazy.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=misspelt
Realised is a British thing, I think. Along with cheque and aluminium.
'Standards' in computing only impress those who are impressed by things like 'standards'.
In italian SEGA means saw. "Farsi una SEGA" translated literally is "to do oneself a saw". To us folks a minor leap brings us to "to choke one's chicken", "to spank one's monkey", "to beat one's bishop", etc...
Either wed or wank buddy.
I hadn't the slightest objection to his spending his time planning massacres for the bourgeoisie... (P.G. Wodehouse)
So let's just get this straight - there is no such system as the "Sega Deramcast."
Perhaps he also intends to include a P-P-P-Powerbook with the lot.
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Considering that most of the stuff on this page is so obscure that most of us have never heard of it (Sega Teradrive? WTF?!) maybe there is a Deramcast!
May the Maths Be with you!
The coolest thing in this auction is the Sony Playstation/PS2 Wine.
I never knew they made WINE for Sony console systems...
Ah, yes, you're right. He's not Japanese... I had been wondering how he managed to spell Dreamcast without a "mu" somewhere in there. Still, it holds true that as a non-native speaker, his shortcomings in English are not reflective of his shortcomings as a businessman.
The ______ Agenda
Should a civic or possibly even private organization get behind this auction and successfully acquire these items I am certain the financial and long terms benefits would be easily felt...
For instance, a Tech Museum in Seattle, Washington could do more to firmly establish such a location as the seat of such software development in at least the U.S. In addition they could charge an admission fee to recoup the cost of the acquisition and curatorial duties associated with the maintenance and operation of such a museum. The benefits could be quite multi-faceted....
Alternatively, a software magnate (quite likely MS for example), or an extremely well-funded upstart could acquire the collection for display in their corporate offices as a thorough exposition of 'everything that came before', hence making a very firm and eloquent statement about their place in the ranking of software/console manufacturers.
Of blankness, I know nothing.
It has all the signs of being free advertising. Especially since, with about 3 days gone by, there have been no bids.
And why isn't neura's name in the submission linked to his/her (ok, with an auction like this, probably his) account?
Anyone in London UK can view a selection of games consoles (and, even play some of them, including classic pong) at the design museum as part of Sony's INTERACTION SPACE:
Rediscover your favourite vintage video games - from Pong and Pac-Man to Tomb Raider - by playing them in the Interaction Space on the second floor of the Design Museum. Visitors can also discover the work of the pioneering multimedia designers who are defining the images we will see on our computer and TV screens in the future in the virtual galleries of the Digital Design Museum. Or they can learn more about the designers, architects and technologies featured at the museum in Design at the Design Museum, our online research archive.
It would be fantastic if these sorts of consoles could go to a museum to support future exhibitions of this kind.
>>PAYMENT:--- ONLY ACCEPT:--- 1/ INTERNATIONAL BONK TO BANK TRANSFER--- 2/ WESTERN UNION INTERNATIONAL TRANSFER
This guy will accept his $100K the same ways kidnappers accept theirs!
No sending an intermediate party after this guy to get your $$$ back (as one could with, say, a credit card)... and somehow I doubt Hong Kong's laws would protect an American buyer if something went sour...
MS/Nintendo/Sony can't do squat
I beg to differ.
Dear Ebay,
Auction number 123456 is selling confidential equipment in violation of contract. Please see to it that an end is put to this immediately, and we won't have our lawyers bone the everloving shit out of your ass in court.
Have a Nice day.
Love,
William H Gates, III.
"good lord, who actually needs all that stuff?"
Who actually needs any stuff? People take an interest and they acquire stuff, bfd.
"Derp de derp."
Damn! I was hoping to see the famous Sony/Nintendo stillborn child, the Play Station (note before you flame:Play Station i.e.2 words not PlayStation!), and it seems to be about the only one he hasnt got! Or did I miss it amongst all the Slashdotted photographs?
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"I'm sorry, but when you ask for that much money for ANYTHING, you can not make yourself look like a first grade jackass."
I'm getting rather tired of using spelling as an IQ test. You just called somebody who probably doesn't speak english natively (which means they took a LOT of time to learn it. I bet you don't know Chinese.) as sounding like a 'first grade jackass' because he didn't spell a few words right. Big surprise some of us Americans have negative stereotypes.
"Derp de derp."
Unfortunately, the price is in dollars, not yen.
++ Say to Elrond "Hello.".
Elrond says "No.". Elrond gives you some lunch.
Technically it's not Brittish, it's simply english. It's the Americans who've deviated from what they started with over the years. Of course that's the way of things, and we've none of us buckley's chance of reading what was the king's tongue 8 or 9 hundred years ago.
Send lawyers, guns, and money!
Your experience must be pretty narrow, then. I lived in Japan for eight years and Viet Nam for one, and everywhere, the pronunciation issues that make up what we would call a Japanese or Vietnamese accent made their way into writing, frequently even among advanced speakers such as my wife.
If you have many (or any) Japanese friends, you've probably noticed, for instance, that when faced with an "Is that word spelled with an L or an R?" choice, they will usually get it wrong. A close friend of mine has a master's degree in EE, works for a large Japanese electronics company, spends many months out of the year in the United States (in places where there aren't a lot of Japanese), speaks English extremely well, and still flubs the l/r thing all the time.
The guy's spelling level is in line with his overall grammar, and we don't know anything about his educational background. He may have learned English at a conversation school, where spelling isn't taught at all.
He may be going on nothing but what he learned in high school plus his experience since then.
I'm sure he really is a native Chinese speaker.
I don't think they can, unless he has actually signed those agreements himself.
Also, those kinds of agreements tend to go a bit beyond the law in some countries.
I don't know what a "BONK" is, must be some sort of Japanese institution.
;)
How appropriate, a Slashdotter not knowing what a "bonk" is. Last time I checked, bonking wasn't confined to Japan either, people do it all over the world
For all the criticism this auction is receiving, I can see the guy making a sale.
It'll probably be snapped up by Google to keep their employees happy during break time !
You're not just looking at the $100k pricetag plus S&H but also at spending quite a bit at customs (and it's going to be a b**ch to get some of this stuff cleared by customs in the first place). Oh, and be sure to tell the UPS guy not to leave the stuff on the front porch. ;)
When it comes to things that end in -ize, Americans use -ize and British use -ise. This is way too much thought put into something that was essentially just me telling a moron to go fornicate himself with a stick. ;)
'Standards' in computing only impress those who are impressed by things like 'standards'.
Only in the US (and maybe some other places where lobbyists rule rather than good sense?) does "right of first sale" (ie. you can resell it) not apply to software.
In HK, and even Japan, that has reasonably well enforced intellectual property laws, software is completely transferrable, if you have the original disk, no matter what the company may have printed on the CD/license pack saying you can/cannot do with it. Most shops in Akihabara Tokyo sell all sorts of older versions of MS Software (original CDs), and there isn't a damn thing that MS can do about it, in spite of what they print on their CDs.
Which is sensible really, why shouldn't you be able to sell something you legitimately paid for and no longer want to someone else?
Ah..the rights you used to have in the USA long long ago before the lawyers and corporate lobbyists took over everything...
The problem is not scarcity, it is of information. Demand increases with exposure, and by doing this, this guy is gaining exposure.
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Don't you think if you were spending the money to buy this stuff that you might collect in person?
You were mistaken. Which is odd, since memory shouldn't be a problem for you
Does he have the Phantom?
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
If you used your imagination to determine what it might be like doing business in a second language you'd know:
1. translators will not keep your business interests in mind as well as you will.
2. Since it's difficult to determine where your own errors may be, it's even more difficult to spot errors made by a spellchecker. And what commonly used, unmodified spellchecker would have correct spellings for "Deramcast," Famicon, or the many other specialized words in this ad?
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What has come of the Slashdot crowd? All grown up? This can't be. Normally there should be at least a couple fake biddings after a Slashdot front page story.
I can only hope the day will come when your debts oblige you to sell your only daughter on Chinese Ebay, and you must grope for the Cantonese phrase for "pleasingly plump."
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100k is indeed pretty cheap, especially considering that a lot of this gear was never available to buy and sell normally.
For example, I was under the impression that you can't buy PS2 devkits, only borrow them from Sony (and pay heavily for the privilege). I'm pretty sure you can't just sell them on...makes me wonder how he got hold of them in the first place.
Oh yes it does ... or haven't you heard about the p-p-p-powerbook?
But think about it. If he had set up a bunch of separate auctions, would he have gotten all this free publicity on Slashdot? I think not. It was the sheer massiveness that made it interesting enough for Slashdot to post. And Slashdot is probably one of his best shots at finding someone actually willing to pay that much money for a bunch of outdated consoles. So all in all, I think putting it all together into one massive auction worked out quite nicely for him.
I'll buy you right arm for $100,000. I'll pay for the amputation and shipping as well.
However, my bank account ($10,000,000,000,000+) is frozen and I need the arm of an American in order to make the magic potion that will get me back my money. I promise I will send you the the $100.000 as soon as I get your arm. I am a very honest Nigerian.
Now go breathe some life into your company's failing stock.
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I survived the Dick Cheney Presidency 7 to 9 AM 7-21-07
Can't load any of the images. It appears the ops for the nameservers for the sdk-team.com web servers just yanked the A record right out of their DNS zone. I guess that's one way to stop a Slashdotting.
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dragonhawk@iname.microsoft.com
I do not like Microsoft. Remove them from my email address.
I know you're a well known troll, but anyway, just to offer real world experience...this devkit here doesn't say "Property of [Manufacturer name]" on it, or anything like that. It wouldn't surprise me if the agreement we have with [Devkit Manufacturer] states something along those lines, but it aint written on the hardware.
My name is Wan Dev Kit, son of Wong Dev Kit, Hong Kong's foremost exporter of video game systems and utilities. Following the Chinese takeover of Hong Kong, my father disappeared and his bank account has been frozen by the state. This has caused great hardship to my family who have been unable to access his account.
However, there exists a loophole in the law which allows foreign companies to remove existing stock from Hong Kong following the takeover. To this end I am seeking a discreet, reliable foreign partner to provide the sum of $100,000 (ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS U.S.) in transfer fees which will allow my father's company to operate outside Chinese control. In return, you will be richly rewarded by the Dev Kit Electronics Company.
THank you for your cooperation in this matter.
Wan Dev Kit
1. Collect Junk .....???? ... seriously, what in the WORLD would you need all this for?
2. Post Ebay Link on SlashDot
3.
4. Profit!
Many people in the US, however, have had a good deal of contact with people whose command of their second language is less than perfect wrt spelling, yet manage to communicate with them and trust them, even here in the US in southern Florida, or southwestern Texas.
Unless you are speaking from experience, which I doubt, you have no reason to tell either side of such business dealings that they are wrong.
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If he hasn't got a Pippen, I'm not interested.
Media that can be recorded and distributed can be recorded and distributed.
-kfg
Haha. Nice try, but it's not my auction to sell and The Tube probably isn't the sort of interface you want to be creating Beowulfs on.
Has anyone ever done a BONK to BANK transfer? Does it leave a mark?
-- Liberalism is a mental disorder.
That's, uh... a lot of stuff to have. Does he happen to live in, oh I don't know, some kind of warehouse? Or maybe he has one of those nifty pockets of hyperspace the Magratheans had.
The main concern I have, however, are those "Only 250 sets on Earth!" comments. Yes, how unique it is on this planet is all well and good, but what about other planets!? I don't want to shell out $100K for something that's as common as dirt on Europa or even Jupiter.
As an aside, I find the "To place a bid of US $15,000.00 or more, you'll need to provide a valid credit card" line amusing. "Also, a small fee applies if the name on the credit card is different to your own, but only for amounts less than $1,000.00."
We're geeks... We're the sorcerers of the modern-day world. --
"Never tested. Sold as is."
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"Never tested. Sold as is."
"Never tested. Sold as is."
My spider-sense is tingling. I can just see the: "Oh, nothing works? Sorry, man, I never tested it. As is. Bye"
When it comes to things that end in -ize, Americans use -ize and British use -ise. This is way too much thought put into something that was essentially just me telling a moron to go fornicate himself with a stick. ;)
Way to chastize him, dude.
Ha! As someone with a fair amount of experience dealing with US businesses trying to work in other cultures, I can tell you this assumption is unfortunately naive.
My brother's spending a lot of time in China lately. The country's crawling with American businessmen, small businessmen, who'd be analogous to this electronics/junk dealer. You'd be amazed at the attitudes, given your post. (Translator? They'll come to us, right?) It's screwy, but even when their small business depends on this one contract, they just don't "get" it.
That's leaving alone far more approachable, familiar, western cultures. I went to France in March. You want to be sympathetic to your American overseas, it's a situation they might not know that well -- but you know, fairly often they make no effort at all. Even in the UK, where there's a common language, there's a large share of American business types who just don't try to be polite, let alone spell "colour" like the natives would spell it.
"Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
...I'd be the first to bid for all that Japanese hardware, but my television only speaks English.
More than 200 kg, as the page tells There are not many harddrives to erase anyway.
hehehe, I loved my SEGA Megadrive 2, but this is insane. But he might be lucky enough to find some nit-wit collector who'll buy it all off of him...
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lingjr (255)
Feedback Score: 255
What a fitting feedback score too, just waiting to roll over.
It's quite illegal to sell the devkits to the public.
Where? Is it illegal in Hong Kong, where this guy is? Do you know, for a fact, that he didn't obtain these devices legitimately and/or without signing any type of agreement? Hell, for all you know he dumpster dove for the things.
A sticker on the bottom of thing marked "Property of Sony" has no legal force whatsoever. They could have trashed the thing and he obtained it from the garbage, which makes it now his, legally, and with no restrictions whatsoever.
Without knowing the complete and full path by which he acquired that devkit, you cannot say for certain whether it is illegal for him to be selling it.
- Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
I recall reading about it on EGM a loooong time ago... some british store sold the ultimate Sega Game Gear mod: the case was made of gold and covered with diamonds.
Circumcision is child abuse.
Yeah, it was called an Apple IIGS.
Nathan
Anyone interested in a CO-OP? (As a little tidbit of reference, CO-OPs are businesses set up and run by the people who would benefit from the business. They were common in rural America for getting power to places that were not profitible to the big power companies).
If we were to each shell out a portion, maybe even do it donation based, we could easily bring this to the US. We could create a game museum, or something, and allow people who contributed to check out hardware for homebrew development. Finding a location would be difficult, but not impossible.
I dunno, just a pipe dream....
My experience with console development systems is that you have almost no rights to transfer/sell. Everything must be handled through Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo. I predict that, if they want to, they can confiscate all of his development systems.
So like...they're going to send the 'DevKitRepo' team after him or something? Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo can't confiscate anything, and I *highly* doubt they're going to get any sort of cooperation from the Hong Kong cops. By the time anything gets around to happening, if anything indeed ever even begins happening, this guy will be paid, the dev kits will be somewhere else (most likely in the US) and then you have a whole new layer of bureaucracy to deal with. I'm sure 'lingjr' is cowering in fear right now.
http://xkcd.com/386/
SORRY FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE CAUSE DUE TO TOO MANY VISITER ON PHOTOS
........
I just changed all photos under other web-hosting
hope problem will not come again
Does ebay have its own area for photo-hosting, or are all photos generally held offsite? I'm really hoping that this guy put that notice up after his image-host got slashdotted, rather than before (otherwise he's going to have a bad day in the bandwidth arena)
If I had the money to buy all this I'd hop on a plane and go make the deal in person. Very what I was getting them hand deliver the money when the goods were picked up. No way would I trust this person to ship it. But then again, people are stupid.
We all knew that. He mentioned being married already in his OP.
http://xkcd.com/386/
I'm sorry, but when you ask for that much money for ANYTHING, you can not make yourself look like a first grade jackass.
Especially when people like you are willing to do it for free.
http://xkcd.com/386/
A few spelling errors doesn't change what you get.
Or maybe it does.
I bought a console a little while ago, it looked like a PSOne and named "Polystation". Someone less observant might assume that this was a Playstation model and someone had mistyped the console name -- but I knew that inside, it was one of many knockoff Famicom systems to have cropped up recently.
Spelling counts. Maybe the "Deramcast" is really just a bootleg Colecovision?
mmmmmmmmm laser active...
It's not like Sony has to ship each Playstation 2 console individually.
That's because Sony holds or uses under license all patents covering methods used by the PS2 console and owns copyright in the PS2 BIOS. Anybody other than the patent holder must obey the parallel import restrictions.
> SONY
> PlayStation 2
> Linus kit
> SCPH-10270
I wonder what the part number is for the Alan Cox kit?
I knew I kept that PS2 around for some reason.
I ditched my PS/2, but kept the keyboard.
Do daemons dream of electric sleep()?
How do you know he's American?
I personally still would be very dubious about giving $100K to someone that flubbed their English.
If I was selling $100K of hardware in Japan, I'd have a Japanese speaker take a look at it.
May we never see th
This is way too much thought put into something that was essentially just me telling a moron to go fornicate himself with a stick. ;)
"Fornicate" is an intransitive verb.
May we never see th
I can't figure for the life of me how Americans, who generally have a limp hold on a single language, can be so critical of an Asian who isn't in perfect command of English.
(a) English is somewhat of a lingua franca in many areas these days, especially WRT technology -- and this guy is selling stuff that would really only be of interest to a developer.
(b) The guy isn't selling this on an Asian website. He's selling it on a US one, and asking for a decent chunk of change for it. If I'm selling a $100K car in France, you can be damned sure that I'm going to find a French speaker to proofread what I wrote.
May we never see th
Where are the X68000 units at?No videogame collection is complete without them.
How many Americans do you know who have been in China? Outside of Academia, I know none that would be over there and actually be in touch with someone who owns a gaming store (or whatever kind of facility that liquidates this kind of stock). I doubt there were any speakers of American english available to meet with.
But, at least as far as I can tell, the dev kits consist of more than just software, they have hardware as well. It is also no where near the EULA-style click through licences that we're talking about, you have to sign before they give anything to you, and it's made very clear from the start (unlike with software where they don't tell you it's licenced and not sold at the EULA) that you are only borrowing them.
I thought surely this dude would have one of these. Man I'm gonna die before I find one.
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OK, so how many Slashdot readers have a spare $100,000?
Right. It's not really that demand increases; it's more like the actual demand approaches the theoretical demand, which assumes perfect information. This is basic economics.
A definition of demand appropriate for an auction: The desire to possess a commodity or make use of a service, combined with the ability to purchase it. So being willing and able is built into the idea itself.
I don't know what Sega thinks of that, but a couple months back I won a Sega Saturn Dev Kit on eBay. It was less of a "kit" and more of a giant board and a cable. It had a floppy disk with drivers, but no CD with code.
as in ***kilograms***. All the boxed items together might total over 100 kilograms, which is why freight would be so expensive.
I agree. If I had a hundred thousand dollars, I would probably purchase this crap and then spend the next 4 years auctioning it all off individually and making oh, say,
dum dum DUM!
ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!
It's an evil plan, but someone's gonna get rich on this guy.
Yes, the world does revolve around the USA but not every merchant is obligated to revolve in lockstep. Those who choose not to may lose some sales, but isn't that entirely their problem? You act as if it was a deliberate offense to you,
This package is a steal at its price from what I'm reading, so maybe you should be kicking in with the international staff, since you are the one who feels put at risk.
The only good reason he'd have to get an English-speaking assistant is if it would improve the bidding. If he chooses not to do so, maybe it does hurt his bidding but why should you be so offended about it?
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Same here; I've ordered many DVDs from Hong Kong and Ireland, and even the ones that have been opened for inspection have made it through. I've gotten boxes with 10-20 DVDs in them this way (sometimes the packages are nearly half covered with stamps :-)
I took a quick look at the searches the grandparent post referred to, and noticed that the problems mainly seem to come from:
And yes, this includes things like out-of-region DVDs, region zero DVDs, and legitimate DVDs for movies that haven't hit the theaters in the US yet. These are also all for personal use rather than resale.
"SHIPPING??!!??"
"...from Hong Kong?"
What is the difference between a small revolutionary change and a large evolutionary change?
Damn you, ebay !!!! - Homer Jay Simpson
[why was this auction removed ? im speculating the dev. kits, that or ebay thought something was fishy when his page got 20,000 hits in a matter of a few hrs.]
English may be lingua franca, but there's a billion native speakers of Chinese (though different dialects) and Ebay serves the globe.
Yes, but he isn't *selling* to those people. He's posting the sale in English on a US website. If he wanted to sell to Japanese users, he could simply use the eBay Japan website. Instead, he chose to target a particular market.
Yes, the world does revolve around the USA but not every merchant is obligated to revolve in lockstep. Those who choose not to may lose some sales, but isn't that entirely their problem? You act as if it was a deliberate offense to you
I don't think I am -- I certainly don't feel offended. I will, however, debate the point that his grammatical errors should not be considered a minus when considering the legitimacy of the deal, however, which was the OP's thesis.
This package is a steal at its price from what I'm reading, so maybe you should be kicking in with the international staff, since you are the one who feels put at risk.
If it's all legitimate and legal.
The only good reason he'd have to get an English-speaking assistant is if it would improve the bidding. If he chooses not to do so, maybe it does hurt his bidding but why should you be so offended about it?
He doesn't need to do so -- it's quite possible to hire a translation firm to go over a single document, and for a $100K deal, it seems like this would be expected from a legitimate businessperson -- the idea is that if you're a legitimate business, you'll care about reputation, and if you care about reputation, you'll care about and be willing to have a polished presentation. Again, if I were selling a $100K car in France, I'd certainly have a French speaker read over my advertisement.
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There are three of us: Mr. Rice, Dr. Burners, and Mr. Sucks, Esquire.
As of 1:30AM US easten time, Ebay is no longer listing his auction.
/. traffic got an Ebay employee to take a look?
Maybe all the
Slashdot- using its power for good, or for awesome?
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Vote monkeys into Congress. They are cheaper and more trustworthy.
anyway...the auction has been pulled with an ebay error message i've never seen before, and i'm guessing somebody in china is in handcuffs..
since the page now returns "auction invalid", it seems that the answer to your question might be "yes" and he's attracted just enough attention to get shut down.
Well met, "base3". If you're so curious as to my identity, it's Mario Panighetti. I have nothing to hide.
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http://www.google.com/search?q=%22mario+panighe
All of those are me-related, except the Italian PDF. No idea what the hell that is.
Thanks a million. Push Start to replay.
Actually, I wasn't curious, though you certainly get props for being willing to put your money where your mouth is, so to speak.
One CPU cycle wasted on digital restrictions management is ONE TOO MANY.
If that's all you meant to convey, I misread you; my apologies.
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Well, I've never really seen the point in hiding behind a pseudonym. The Internet has the potential to be this wonderful tool to connect people and businesses around the world, but it's populated by legions of "tehmatrixfan_8136@aol.com" handles. The minute the anonymity is erased is the minute this tool can reach its hithertofore-untapped potential. It will happen some day, and I eagerly await that day.
In the meantime though, "afish" is a fun name, so I'll stick with it. ^_^
Thanks a million. Push Start to replay.
The topic here is not parent's signature. Should be off-topic, not troll. But it is interesting :D