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Not Enough Ads? Install Adbar.
An anonymous reader writes "Jesse Ruderman brings the worst feature of Opera, Advertisements, to Firefox with his extension Adbar. According to the page, 'adbar displays Google ads related to pages you view. Because the ads are relevant, they are occasionally useful. When adbar isn't displaying ads from Google, it displays Firefox-related things such as silly Firefox slogans, ads for other Mozilla software, and requests for donations to the Mozilla Foundation.'"
And when I'm done, I need to start installing my virus collection.
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or so shouts Admiral Adbar.
-Rylfaeth
but I've been using gmail for a number of months now, and I'm finding their targeted advertising more and more helpful.
I guess I've officially lost at the internet.
I was worried I wasn't getting enough google ads reading slashdot every 30 minutes. no, but really, thats how sad I am.. I'm on a 30 minute refresh cycle..
ok.. so heads you lose tails I win. right?
When I'm buying a car or appliance, I like seeing ads - I go through all the catalogs and magazines looking for them.
Although, I wouldnt it it as a sidebar on all the time, and I cant imagine internet ads being usefully targetted.
You can't expect to wield supreme executive power, just because some watery tart threw a sword at you
Google is very strict about where they allow their ads to be shown. For example, Google will not feed ads to sites that express extreme political views, or deal with taboo topics such as internet gambling.
So, I'm wondering if they approved this project. If they haven't, then Google will be pulling the plug very shortly...
Internet Explorer?
The FAQ says it works in AdSense test mode, so Google doesn't pay anyone or charge anyone. It's probably possible to hack it and distribute it as a "customized" version for your users, though.
Google doesn't index user sigs, so stop trying to "Google Bomb" with them.
Took like 20 seconds to find the answer to that. From the adbar page:
"adbar uses the "test" adsense mode, so advertisers don't pay Google and Google doesn't pay anyone."
RTFA.
It's ads are actually GOOD - I've learned to pay attention to them when on Google. I might get this adbar...
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Sorry, I prefer to keep my [very limited] desktop space.
Thanks anyway!
-Bullseye
Yay Ads! I was feeling guilty about reading pages without watching ads... I was feeling guilty because seeing content without Ads is like stealing from the content makers. You saved my soul.
I find it funny that thats all I got when I first clicked on the article. Atleast this is an optional plugin, but it'd be funny if you ran it alongside Adblock.
I've discovered a remarkable proof, but this margin is too small to contain it...
Out of the FAQ...
"Who gets money?
adbar uses the "test" adsense mode, so advertisers don't pay Google and Google doesn't pay anyone"
Somehow, I sense that Google's going to be pulling thier new test-viewer feature offline for more security to be added tomorrow.
From the site: "Can I register and get rid of the ads? Of course! Paypal $19 (51% cheaper than Opera!) to me or the Mozilla Foundation, then use Firefox's Extension Manager to uninstall adbar." What a waste of a parannoid attack I had there. Thanks slashdot.
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I'm going to take a funny stance on this subject. Normally I would be annoyed by this sort of thing, but something occured to me when I read this /. article. Because Adbar is *not* spyware, I'm going to install it. I think people should support advertizing projects that take the high moral road. I'm going to reward these guys for staying legit and we'll see how it turns out. I wouldn't mind Google ads on pages I'm surfing, because there might be cool products or services I can buy related to the stuff I'm looking at. And, no, I'm not affiliated with this project in any way, shape or form, so don't ask! :-)
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What is the point of posting this story? Is it some kind of clever backhand insult to Opera?
I use Opera all the time: number of times I have even noticed the ads consciously... um, never. Or let's say, just about the same number of times I notice them on SlashDot!
Don't install it next to Adblock! The meeting of these two opposing super-extensions will create an implosion that shall engulf the entire universe.
Here are some tips on how to make Opera 'look like a browser again'. (btw, ironically, this page has google ads)
Install AdBar and Adblock and let 'em fight it out...
Consultancy: If you're not part of the solution, there's money to be made in prolonging the problem
hey thanks for the spyware kit, i can now hack it about and re-release it for those suckers who have mozilla's activeX clone installXp feature enabled (by default)
spyware doesnt just have to be for win32 now, hooray !
good to see mozilla is emulating all the features from MSIE, we wouldnt want anyone to miss out
Some guy decided to write an extension. It's interesting research -- can ads be made useful enough that people will actively seek them out? It isn't included with Firefox, and it isn't taking up a single byte of your download space. I think that denigrating the guy is going a little bit over the top. He could just as easily say "I'd like to see AssProphet writing some useful open source instead of wasting his time insulting me."
May we never see th
Um, it won't. Why would it?
Let's see...reasons it wont:
1) Not an official Mozilla Foundation project.
2) Not profitable (it earns no money for anybody).
3) Not at all in the spirit of an open source project like Mozilla.
Reasons it will:
1) Can't think of any. Want to help me out, here?
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You don't understand, if a programmer is bored, he almost has to do something completely useless.
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Here on Earth, we call this a "joke".
- These are not the ads you're looking for.
- You can go about your business.
- Move along.
I'd rather be a conservative nutjob than a liberal with no nuts and no job.
Some TV ads are so funny, you look forward to watching them (until you get sick of them.....WISE.....ER......BUD).
I accept the usefulness and necessity of ads for providing "free" access to some information that would not otherwise be free of direct cost (or even possible) otherwise. This may sound surprising to anyone who has read the About page on my web site, where I diss advertising executives. But that's different. I run a hobby site, just for fun, designed to make people laugh and then go about their lives. I pay for this myself and I don't believe advertising belongs on such Web sites, sites the Web was created for (person-to-person communication, not selling wares). But I don't hate advertising as a whole. I just want to see it kept in its proper place.
And if you can make the ads relevant, interesting, useful, and even fun, it helps a LOT.
Don't get your panties in a bunch. Go back and read your post and you'll realize that you were asking a perfectly valid question and guess what you got? A perfectly valid answer. Go figure.
Someone please tell me why I would ever even think about installing this thing
A far more useful extension is this one
http://adblock.mozdev.org/
It's not us. It's the editors.
Just kidding.
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First, thanks Mike.
A little extreme on the politics, but the hosts file works fairly well. Should change the 127.0.0.1 to 0.0.0.0 instead, or so I've been told right here on
Also, Mike could use a little primer on copyright. Statement may be ok for commercial distribution, but doesn't work for private individuals.
Two problems not covered by the hosts file, at least on windows. The above file works great on Linux clients, but for Windows, using Mozilla, I still have to "block images from this server", even though the url is covered in the hosts file. Apparently, Mozilla keeps its own list. I've got quite a few urls blocked with Mozilla, but when other users are logged on and using Mozilla, they have to block the same urls I already blocked when I was logged on with my own user account.
Any way of sharing the url block list in Mozilla from one user so that all the other users benefit, instead of having to block the hundreds of urls I already did?
Also, I just ran into this problem yesterday: Some ad server urls are using ip addresses, instead of domain names. So the hosts file isn't checked, as their is no ip address translation going on. Any way of blocking ad servers by ip without resorting to using a firewall on individual clients? I can't block at the perimeter, as the perimeter is a nat device, not a computer.
Also, some sites use a redirect from their own site url for the images, or use a subdirectory within their own url for image serving. Any way of blocking, for example, a single subdirectory of images for a specific site (ie: http://nytimes.com/ads/intrusive.jpg, blocking http://nytimes.com/ads/ without blocking content from http://nytimes)?
And the redirects from above? Can't remember a specific example, but I'm sure some of you using an ad blocking hosts file have run into, and remember what I'm talking about. It's not a big deal since most sites work with the hosts file, and I don't burn too much bandwidth downloading the ads, but I ran into a few sites last week that were really unusable because of the ad layout and sheer size of the downloads required to view the ads, and this is a killer for speed, usability, and cost when using dial up (no free minutes beyond the first minute at one location, paying for every minute I'm online).
I, and my wallet, thank you in advance.
With Adbar at the top of the screen, and Adblock lurking at the bottom right, what's the poor web content area to do?
.. whether or not Mozilla (most likely pressured by AOL) starts to bundle this extension with their browser distro. Of couse, the likelihood of this happening is so small, simply because it would most likely alienate about 98% of their current market. Aside from that, an extension that displays advertisements in a browser? Sounds like a horrible idea. Shame on the developer.
So based on the assumptions about slashdot users, you will get even MORE ads about "enlarging your member" based on surfing habits.
Take the Superbowl, to use television as an example. People tune in to that event even if they're not football fans just to see the ads. Millions were spent on those thirty second spots, and in a situation like that, millions more get spent on ad agencies to come up with entertaining ads.
As more people learn how to "block" ads on different mediums one way or another, the greater the demand will become to write and produce advertisements entertaining enough that people will want to see them in addition to companies creating several different ads at a time so viewers do not get hit with so much repitition. This Firefox plugin illustrates my points by allowing proud consumers to be informed about what they could spend their money on by filtering out ads that will most likely be of no interest to that Firefox user. This way, if Firefox somehow figures out that you already have a big penis by analyzing your slashdot posts, then you won't be seeing that type of spam. Instead you'll be advised of products that your computer deems worthy for that purpose by judging its relevance to your MO (deduced by Firefox from your web behavior).
If ads could be both very entertaining and minimally invasive, in addition to pushing products/services you'd most likely want to buy in a spontaneous situation, why wouldn't you install this? Not all of us are broke, and most of us want more stuff.
I just invented a reverse TiVo. It extracts all the commercials from a given time slot for viewing at a later date! One at a time folks!
But the eyecandy graphics just sounds like a complete waste. WTF does this do for anybody?
Engineering is the art of compromise.
Because with this AdBar you are willingly putting ads in your browser. Opera doesnt give you a choice unless you register.
It advertises for mozilla (in mozilla). It advertises things I'm already looking at. Does it advertise itself? I've been searching for this exact set of features! It's like the second coming!
I know more than you drink.
I'd use it on occassion myself. When looking for a specific type of linux software, or rumaging around for a tidbit of information; the first thing I look at on google are the ads to the right. Being an Ad-Keyword runner myself, I see that the results for keyword placement are pretty good in respect to the search terms.
;)
I appreciate that the plugin developer is operating it in "test" mode though. It gives more credit to the authors intent for the plugin. ( Hopefully his plugin isn't opensource, or we'll be seeing a few spinoffs that arn't against making a dollar )
Has anyone earned anything more than a few bucks on running these ads anycase? I ran them on a few websites in an attempt to compensate for my own ad-keywords campaign. After a few weeks, I gave it up as a lost cause. There were too many of my competitors I was advertising for ( and Google didn't see the merit in my idea to block by 'category' opposed to URL
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Instead of ads that try to target you all the time, instead the ads should be coralled into a place where they stay until you want to look at them. For example, if I wanted to buy a new fridge then I could go to the ads and look through as many as I want, but the rest of the time they stay suppressed (an ad aggregator of sorts that's not in your face all the time). Ads are useful under certain circumstances. It's my opinion that the current ad process in the browwer doesn't work anymore because people are too accustomed to it. Of course it doesn't work for me (and many of you at all) because of Firefox/Adblock, etc.
Isn't that the same guy who runs Pornzilla?
Ads cost money. Whenever I see an ad for a product or service I automatically think that there must be a competing product that's cheaper. If there's no competitor then why advertise?
Advertising Mozilla on slashdot is preaching to the choir man
...and that's all there is to it.
I might actually install that if they made so that income generated from selling the ad space went to the mozilla foundation. I'd get to be cheap and financially help out mozilla.
Mathematics is made of 50 percent formulas, 50 percent proofs, and 50 percent imagination.
Unless I'm horrendously mistaken, XPI files are in plain text, and are script files. So while there may be a way to sort of hide it (javascript's encode() comes to mind), but it would be easily defeated.
So, really, what's stopping someone from creating one of these that sits in the background (no adbar) and generates clicks automagically? That would be a whole lot of free money to the person who convinced people to install that extension.
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What a great segment to have by the short hairs: people stupid enough to download and install this. Require them to enter valid credit card numbers which charge them for the products advertised unless they "opt out" and you have the pinnacle of marketing genius.
This is the most retarded thinking ever. This is like saying, I'll support the clips they play in the beginning of movies because they are taking the moral high road. What?
You pay to go see a movie, not to go see a 15 to 30 minutes of ads. It doesn't offset the cost of the movie. The samething for everything else. Advertising, unless it's specific product placement on high traffic sites is useless. Voluntarily subjecting yourself to a barrage of ads is like giving your address to a "direct marketing" unit. Ad's make sense in TV in sports arenas, newspapers, slashdot, google. They simply don't make sense on my desktop, that I pay for, that I pay bandwidth for, that I foot the bill for.
Of course if you're comfortable with the fact that you are footing someone elses bill while having to pay for your own; at detriment to yourself. Then more power to you.
Unlike you, no one is thinking about morals and high roads in the ad industry. This is just another way they can stick a piece of paper, image, video, link in your face. It's business.
When I had a TV, I spent at least a session of twenty minutes in front of TV Shop a week - I never bought anything, but it'd get my dose of ads straight, plus offers don't come greater than on TV Shop (Wait, are we counting the Internet? Don't forget that the Internet sucks.)
Take off every 'ZIG' !!
Kinda like setting up an Amazon affiliate link on your own page to get a 15% discount on books?
Should get the same thing we wanted to do the clown that invented the pop-up.
He should be tied to a tree and fed ex-lax for a week!
Professional Politicians are not the solution, they ARE the problem.
BAH! I can't middle-click or control-click on it to open the ads in a new tab. What good is that?!? :)
The World Wide Web is dying. Soon, we shall have only the Internet.
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Hey I understand your frustation, but why didn't you post a link to this in your comment? Lots of people just read your comment and didn't get anything useful out of it.
The more you know, the less you understand.
it would be great if a "sensing" ad technology could also determine that i have no fucken disposable income, and just go dark to save us both the hassle.
pr0n - keeping monitor glass spotless since 1981.
Oh, so you're saying that all Republicans are pro-ads, spam, etc? lol
Since I'm between an independent and Republican (mostly Republican), then why am I running ad-blocking proxy servers in my house, doing huge anti-spam measures including spam analysis (http://www.tliquest.net/spam), and also why do I get pissed at every commercial on TV (and that I usually either mute it or turn it off)? Yep, from your amazing superior analysis, I'd be a democrat. haha.
#Secret Windows Source Code, in MS C% - if (uptime >= "24 hours") then bsod() else print "Windows License Violation!"
> you're just another schmuck who hasn't read the damn article
I did RTFA, and I posted my response to it. The fact they are doing the test thing doesn't bother me. Google will likely make them change servers, so it's kind of a non-issue to me. Their product will move to whatever mechanism works. The fact they say you have to pay to be removed is likely a joke, but even if it isn't, I would rather know that kind of stuff *up front* rather than find out after I've installed something that it won't come off (like Gator). And it's the fact they have designed this project knowing full well that many people won't use it because it's ads, but yet they still branched the advertising medium into something else -- something moral -- I just feel like they deserve to get as many people supporting them as they can. Really, wouldn't you like to see the Internet advertising medium shift gears into something that doesn't hijack your computer? I certainly would.
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
Do not try to block the ads. That's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth. There are no ads. Then you'll see that it is not the ads you block, it is only yourself.
Let's not forget that one can hate his government, but love his country.
Sorry, I saw the ad after I posted, but basically what you're saying is the fact that he has a screenshot of the bush/cheney homepage automatically makes him a Republican. So if you went to the same website, that would make you a Republican too ;)
Ever tried using logic? hehe
#Secret Windows Source Code, in MS C% - if (uptime >= "24 hours") then bsod() else print "Windows License Violation!"
The concept is obviously a joke but I can see something like this being a good idea.
People mainly object to ads because of the format in which they're delivered: popups, Flash, spam, etc. People don't have a problem with advertisement-sponsored content itself (well, some do, but fuck 'em).
Well, if we accept that we "pay" for content by exposing our eyeballs to advertisement, wouldn't it be useful to control the way in which we are subjected to adverts? For example, a site could provide meta-data, so to speak, about an ad, and the client will determine how to present it, based on use preference (ie, do you want the ad embedded in the page, or as a popup, or in its own frame, or whatever)
This would be a pretty good concept because it means that advertisement would be delivered to you in a way which you mind the least (or perhaps is the most useful to you)
Just thinking.
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And what if it was kerry/edwards instead?
If that were so, I'd even see a post such as "maybe thats what he wanted... to advertise kerry/edwards" as blatantly idiotic.
#Secret Windows Source Code, in MS C% - if (uptime >= "24 hours") then bsod() else print "Windows License Violation!"
I've recently started to use Adblock with Firefox. Now, not only are all my pop-ups blocked, but I never saw an ad. It seriously took me a week to adjust to actually reading the information in front of me. Before, I'd automatically scan past most pictures and words before reading anything.
Honest to God, it freaked me out. I even mentioned how weird it was to other people. Of course they gave me a weird look by saying all of this, but nevertheless it's true.
as in the Superman movie of 25 (?) years ago, every cigarette pack or banner just happened to say Marlboro. It's happening much more nowadays due to Tivo, by which people skip over commercials, in shows such as American Idol where the contestants are shown in (show sponsor) Ford vehicles.
So it will be impossible to tell where the "entertainment product" ends and the advertisement begins. But there's always been a little of that all along.
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Yes they are, but sometimes they can provide enough good that they overcome their inherently evil nature (kinda like Angel) -- as long as you don't climb bed with them, then all bets are off.
Free Software: Like love, it grows best when given away.
Now if I could just get more spam too! Perhaps a new plugin in Evolution 2.0 will provide that! Next I'll start using more !s too!
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I always hate to see people actually go for something like this. Advertising is the one industry which provides nothing of value to society. The only ones who gain from advertising are medium to large businesses, as they are the only ones with the investment capital to saturate the market.
That said, if these people can get anyone to fall for this, more power to them. That's capitalism. At least they are up front about it, and not sneaky and underhanded like Gator & the like.
-Amalcon
lol we've got a flamer ;)
I'm a hypocrite? Can you prove it? I guess you'll just "tell" me what I'm supposed to believe, is that it? lol
Also you probably didn't read my follow-up post either (which I posted after I saw the ad itself).
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That and people are stupid enough to actually pay him.
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This must be the long awaited Mozilla Internet Exploder Compatibility Suite (MIECS).
:-)
Be careful, M$ may want to sue you over patent technology of some such thing, that is if Darl wont get you first.
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Finally...Opera-users have no excuse!
http://archonon.sytes.net/
and block all traffic from *.google.com/* !
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Web browsing is different because the only thing you're paying for is your bandwidth. Even your browser is free, and it runs on a computer you're likely using for other stuff.
Somebody earlier made a much better comparison to leafing through a trade magazine, looking at ads that you want to know about, because those ads are for stuff you're interested in.
The main reason why I wouldn't use this isn't because I object to advertising, it's the wasted bandwidth and screen real estate that annoys me. Imagine buying a TV with an ad marquee along the bottom of the picture. UGH!
Advertising Mozilla != advertising advertising Mozilla.
I'd disagree with #3. It's obviously in the spirit of open source; not only was it made possible by Mozilla's extension support and open source code, it even comes available in 3 flavors of open source licenses.
I'm surprised at all the knee-jerk anti-ad reactions in the comment sections. You don't even need to RTFA to realize this is a piece of sarcastic joke-ware. If I made an extension that fed you pr0n and asked for your credit number every 5 seconds, I'm sure people would be complaining about that, too.
Local test ads eh? You can block them with a hosts file.
add:
127.0.0.1 localhost
Oh wait...
And remember kids: Never trust a computer you can actually lift.
You pay to go see a movie, not to go see a 15 to 30 minutes of ads. It doesn't offset the cost of the movie.
I agree. I paid for the movie. Assuming the ads make the theater $1/ticket, I feel like I'm being paid $1 for watching 15 minutes of ads.
I'm ok with movie trailers, though. I don't know how to reconcile that with being against other ads before movies.
Ad's make sense in TV in sports arenas, newspapers, slashdot, google. They simply don't make sense on my desktop, that I pay for, that I pay bandwidth for, that I foot the bill for.
Developing software costs money too. You can choose not to use Opera or Adbar because you'd rather not see ads, but it does make sense for the free version of Opera to include ads if it makes them money.
Unlike you, no one is thinking about morals and high roads in the ad industry.
Google puts a lot of effort into making its ads unobtrusive and useful. Perhaps they do this because it will help them make more money in the long run rather than because they prefer not being evil, but does it really matter why they do it?
The shareholder is always right.
GHOST-BUSTERS!
now where's my giant twinkie?
Replying to myself...
Perhaps they do this because it will help them make more money in the long run rather than because they prefer not being evil, but does it really matter why they do it?
Never mind. Now I see that you were responding to "I think people should support advertizing projects that take the high moral road."
The shareholder is always right.
Not to inject some seriousness into this conversation, but why doesn't the Mozilla Foundation release something like this for real? They could set up an account with Google and then get paid for all those clicks on targeted ads. And I know what you're thinking, what kind of an idiot would voluntarily install such a monstrosity as an adbar. But c'mon. You know theres plenty of Google/Mozilla Fanboys out there that would be perfectly willing to whore a couple of pixels out to the Foundation!
It's a joke to advertise this as something "useful". If it was being advertised to help raise money for whatever, maybe I would buy into it... but frankly this is a joke. Unless it is a way to get around the adwords terms of service (you can't even imply that people should click to raise money for you) but still, it is quite a far shot to market this as being 'useful'.
someone out there has too much free time to waste... aaarrrrgggghhhh
Hmmm... I use Firefox. Amount of extra space I have by picking a kickass browser: tonnes.
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If you check the http://www.squarefree.com/extensions/adbar/ page you can pay $19.95 and get rid of the ads?
whats the point of an AdBar with no ads ????
-= Technomancer =-
I have hacked my DVD Player to play 5 minutes of advertisements after every 10 minutes of the movie. And my TIVO plays stored ads even when I watch the premium ad free channels.
Surely Yahoo targeted promotional e-mail, based on keywords in your inbox, can be useful sometimes. Also, I have been hearing about those beneficial worms patching windows holes. Perhaps a firewall plugin is in order.
I set it up on a client's website and make between $4-9 a day (50% of which is mine), which is pretty decent, I think.
"All it takes to fly is to hurl yourself at the ground... and miss." - Douglas Adams
giving people the choice to add ads is pretty interesting... my first thought was "who would willingly expose themselves to extra advertising" but then i remembered some of the magazine junkies i know who buy the publication for the sole reason that they have a good advertiser list...
All the torrents you could want.
I am just waiting for an adbar that pops up links for goatse.cx and the like, so I don't need to log into slashdot anymore for online spam ;)
Saying your OS is the best because more people use it is like saying MacDonalds make the best food
If the author was really smart, he/she incorporated banners ads from a pay-per-click plan they signed up for before releasing the plugin
Actually, I agree with you about the knee-jerk reaction. That was my point; that this is a joke and nothing to be at all concerned about.
But I stand by #3; the chances of the Mozilla Project doin that are slim-to-none, especially since anyone could simply undo it. Yes, the spirit of open source.
This story is very unfair to Opera. You get ads if you use the fully featured free version of Opera and it even gives you a choice between the types of adverts.
Not all software is free.
I wish I had the same for Mozilla Thunderbird, so I can get more spam...
If they ever come up with a device for my computer that shoves a hot poker in my ass every so often, I'll be in heaven!
Close...
--Dan
I'd hit it, oh wait...
The post is quite trollish... I use opera all the time, and I chose not to pay and use google ads instead. They're not intrusive, and sometimes, they're even useful..
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they have their target audience covered all right!(fat nerds)
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
This is just one more reason for advertisers to choose google.
Last month I used was in a internet Cafe in Dublin, that used CenturySurf Linux/firfox PCs. The only program they could was Firefox.
I can see someone installing 1000's of public PC's wanting to put ads on them.
who modded this as funny? he did buy the uid on ebay A very little amount of research will also reveal the uid of the user who bought it.
Many /.ers might find this part of the article more interesting:
Pornbar for Firefox
Inspired by the Bible Toolbar extension for Firefox, Billistic made Pornbar. Sadly, he based his extension on the Eurekster toolbar, not the Bible Toolbar.
Update August 15: Pornbar is now listed on the Pornzilla site.
Posted on August 01, 2004 at 02:54 PM in M
The real question here is weather this ad bar will give us better Pr0n links. If it doesn't then who needs it?
- I'm on a site that deserves a few more cents,
- the advert sells something that I oppose.
For example, if I'm on VersionTracker looking for Mac shareware, I'll click the ads for Windows crapware. If I'm on a Libertarian site, I'll click the ads for W Ketchup or stupid fake polls like peel.comand
AdWords as a force for social justice...
If you think about it, it's not wasted space at all. The point behind advertising is to increase brand awareness.
For men, the ONLY reference point we have for panty liners, tampons, etc IS advertising - women don't talk to us about that stuff much.
So, when we're asked to go buy some feminine hygene products (wife in hospital, etc), there's a high likelyhood that our choice of brand will be influenced by the advertising. That's a win for the ad companies.
Been there, done that.
And now, back to your scheduled insanity.
Opera never was just a browser in the first place. Even Opera 3 had a newsreader! This "Opera is becoming another Netscape" screaming has been going on since some time around version 5 when the program became ad sponsored instead of limited to 30 days. Suddenly, everyone had an opinion, and obviously the new people who didn't know anything about Opera kept yelling about how "Opera should go back to its roots as a browser only application".
But it's crap. Opera never was just a browser. Anyone who speaks fondly of "the good old days when Opera was just a fast browser" obviously haven't been using Opera for very long, and they are showing some incredible ignorance.
So this kind of whining is not new, far from it. But it doesn't get any more clever of you to wish yourself back to the days when "Opera was just a fast browser", because those days never existed!
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But it's got nothing to do with spyware. These ads don't "spy" on anyone. The user knows damn well that the URL needs to be reported back to Google for it to work. The user is told up front!
And that, my friend, is not spying. It is not spyware.
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Now I won't have to wait for the eMailman to make a delivery... I can get all those pesnis pills, hormones and loan approvals FAST! Whoo hoo! I might even get that college degree I always wanted...
The converse is: Why advertise when you've hit saturation?
Is there anyone out there who doesn't know of Coke? Does anyone buy on advertising anymore, or is it pretty much "I buy Coke because it's cheaper" or "I buy Coke because it tastes better"?
How much money does Coke spend on ads in a year?
How much money would go directly to their profits if they stopped advertising?
How much money would they lose in sales if they stopped advertising?
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Mod me down, you fucking twits. Go ahead. I dare you.
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...the adverts could be stored on servers that the advertisers could pay for... then we'd want a search mechanism to find the relevent ones... we could call it "The Internet"...
Justin.
You're only jealous cos the little penguins are talking to me.
Does no-one in this thread think it's a joke? It appears to be functional, but it is clearly humourous, satirical, ironic - that kind of thing. Hats off to them.
On the public channels like ZDF, ARD and so on, they have been interrupting programs for ads but not as often as the US. At one stage, they even used to put your VCR on pause whilst sending the Ads. The private broadcasting networks like RTL and Pro-7 are sending enough ads now to be obnoxious, again a lot less tha the US though. Unfortunately no TIVOs here.
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It took me FOUR HOURS to fix the mess you made me cause. I was like, "Ok cool I don't gotta pay his money." Then I played around and it TOTALLY WORKED. I'm thinking, cool great I win. Then I went to find some pics of Bea Arthur in a g-string and I COULDN'T SEARCH. I was like, no worries cause I remember changing something, I'll just search and find out what I changed and I COULDN'T BASTARD. So I had to go to EVERY PAGE ON THE INTERNET to find this page again ( I had gone to it last so it was on the bottom of my list of all the pages on the internet) before I finally found it. Thanks alot, your childish games are better off somewhere else.
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When I read it, I threw up a little in my mouth. That's all we need, MORE ads. Can I get a bar that also gives me more spam and disables my popup blocker? Maybe I can buy all of them in a bundle for one low price.
I think you may have missed the context of that ad... it was put there to illustrate Google's "often interesting" ad selection. (The Google ad from AdBar is for an anti-Bush site.)
If you'd noticed one of the other screenshots on that page, the Daily Kos, you might've come to the opposite conclusion.
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Hmm, I recall Douglas Adams describing video recorders as machines designed to watch all the television you don't have time to see, and monks as machines designed to believe in anything you don't have time to believe in.
/dev/null :-).
Does anyone have some "ad-glare" product that can check out all the adds for me so I don't have to worry about it? I have endless storage in my
If advertisers pay by the click it should be easy to ruin them just setting up ad-glare robots to check out every advertisement...
One could ask if it is posible to ruin those who pay for spam the same way?
>But it's crap. Opera never was just a browser. Anyone who speaks fondly of "the good old days when Opera was just a fast browser" obviously haven't been using Opera for very long, and they are showing some incredible ignorance.
I'm the linked blogger for the entry on Making Opera Look Like A Browser Again, and I've been with Opera since v3. In retrospect, my claim that Opera is "going the Netscape way" was incorrect, especially since much of the bloat about which I complained was in Selector Panels, not in the overall installer size. (Still 3.4MB!) My complaint had nothing to do with ads so much as with the crufty layout of the new interface. While other Opera users may like having IRC, "Notes," and syndication in their sidebar, I was putting forward a way to get all that out of the user's face and putting the browser back at full front and center.
But what you say is quite true, and maybe I should have phrased my blog entry differently. Opera was never just a plain-vanilla browser, but for the time I've used it, I've used it primarily for its browsing capabilities, and nothing else. That's what I love about Opera: the browser, so in my use of Opera, let nothing get in the browser's way.
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It's easy to get just the browser too. Just disable M2 from the "programs and paths" prefs.
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I wish there was a way to rate these articles too...insightful, funny, troll etc.
This article's just funny !
I intentionally set up my Ebay acct with my old /. nick because I did not want to mask the fact that this happened and which nick I used before this transaction.
I feel like I got a good deal on it. I was prepared to go higher than that price.
I've always been a huge fan of Slasdot, and I started coming here when UIDs were about in the 4 digit range, but I never registered then and only posted AC. I bought this acct for my birthday, as the ultimate geek present to myself. My wife looked at me like I was nuts! (She still does)
This acct was originally a beta tester's acct, so I think it's just a cool thing to have and I would never sell it. I'm not sure why anyone would sell their low UID for beer money.
If you look back at my comments, you will see that I have made good use of this acct, and contribute positively to this community. At least a troll didn't get it, right?
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
My cpu cycles would be better spent running an RSS feed aggregator...
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The more you explain it, the more I don't understand it. - Mark Twain
How much would you pay for a two digit telephone number? No area code, no "dial 1"... just dial 5,6 and wait a second... {{RING}} {{RING}} "Hello?" "This is bgarcia (33222)" "Hmmm 32?" "No, 33222"
"Never heard of ya." {{CLICK}}
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
How it the world is the parent a Troll??? I agree the adbar is a dumb idea. It down right makes me angry that someone even spent the time to make it. That's just evil.
IMO the best browser game ever http://wittyrpg.com
Although not obvious, I think this little doosey will dramatically improve Mozillas installed base.
Clone PC makers are always looking for a way to make a few extra bucks on a PC - the fact is by removing IE and replacing it with Mozilla and installing AdBar those PC's will (after a few years) generate more revenue than they made by selling the PC -- this leads to an interesting model of being able to sell computers at near zero cost, or at least to raise their margins.
I would venture to guess that the majority of the computers sold never have their default browsers changed.
So do the community a favor - next time your in a clone shop ask if they install Mozilla by default on all new systems? Then when they say "No" ask "Okay, so whats the catch -- why are you guys leaving money on the table" then they say "huh" then you explain why they ought to be installing Mozilla with AdBar and they'll start getting checks every month from Google.
Ironic isn't it?
Just imagine what would happen to Mozillas #'s if a Compaq or a Dell did that? Even a tier 2 seller like Tiger (who hawks stuff on QVC).
AdBar is an awesome idea, kudos to the author!
Yeah, I realize that the extension is a joke, but something like it would actually be a good idea. If the ad views actually earned money for the Mozilla foundation, people could voluntarily(!) install the adbar as a cashless donation. A lot of people who wouldn't want to pay money for a web browser--even if it's a voluntary donation--may be willing to view ads instead.
It's certainly worth trying, anyway.
Can I register and get rid of the ads?
Of course! Paypal $19 (51% cheaper than Opera!) to me or the Mozilla Foundation, then use Firefox's Extension Manager to uninstall adbar.
Essay question - what can we deduce about the authors intent from this?
It's not wasting time, I'm educating myself.
I know at least some google ads are paid for on a per click basis. Mind you the google ads are not (at the moment...wait 5 years) intrusive. Does anyone know any software that will download shit loads of advertising material while you are not using your network? It's important never to have to look at any of it.
Advertising in its current form should be illegal. It's particulary bad to advertise to children....I hear in some Scandinvavian countries they're no adverts on kids tv.
I really hate adverts. I left London a lot because I felt sick being dragged through all that conusmer bullshit everyday. (Now I live on a small Pacific Island....you can avoid most of the adverts.)
Ads are insiduous, creeping unwanted into your head. If I am forced in front of an advert I always take care to pay attention to the branding and think really bad things. An unadvertised alternative wins lots of points.
You do know what the author does in his spare time, don't you?
The Burning Edge
Security holes in Mozilla the author's found
The author's checkins to Mozilla source code
Helpful bookmarklets for searching through Bugzilla, Mozilla's public bug database
You can also view the credits in Firefox as well. (I'd link to the specific line in code, but because it's in an HTML page LXR displays the HTML instead of outputting it by line number.) I'm pretty certain the author qualifies as a useful open source contributor.
oh yea i was really trolling there, it's called a fucking joke.
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I would never choose ads, because I don't like being targeted. Ads that I consider legit are placed on web pages, including affiliate links. I also run across products of interest when I'm searching Google - I found FastMail through doing a search and have never seen them advertised outside of their e-mail support forum. I like finding what I want, not being recruited. Anything that uses forced advertising, targeted ads or pop-up ads on other sites, I will not buy. Obviously someone is buying stuff, or there wouldn't be these types of advertising. As for Opera, I love it, and even though the Google ad is unobtrusive, it is easy enough to customize it away. I've ordered some Opera stuff at CafePress, so I guess I like the way they advertise. I've never used eBay because when I used IE, I'd get eBay pop-ups on other sites, and when I tried to go to another page, another one would pop up.
How many visitors does that site get a day?
The shareholder is always right.
Between 500-600 on your average day, though the record is 800 something.
"All it takes to fly is to hurl yourself at the ground... and miss." - Douglas Adams
I absolutely agree, the parent is most definitely not a troll but spot on. So Firefox is now going to annoy us into paying them for the code? Guess I'll stick with Konqueror in future.
Darryl L. Pierce "What do you care what people think, Mr. Feynman?"
I must admit that although I hate ads, this is actualy kinda funny... I mean sometimes there can be some usefull stuff in those ads, although I wouldn't use it too often, Opera users might complain of Firefox stealing there features ;)