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Beware The Rotundus Rover

EasyTarget writes "Originally developed as a Mars Rover, the Swedish developers of the Rotundus are now pitching their all-terrain pendulum powered sphere as a robotic Security Guard. I'm sure I have seen this in action already."

221 comments

  1. Got Mirror ? by AwaxSlashdot · · Score: 1

    Already /.ed !

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    1. Re:Got Mirror ? by FinchWorld · · Score: 5, Informative
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    2. Re:Got Mirror ? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Don't know about a mirror, but just follow the link in my sig. (Damn, it was fresh first thing this morning and now it's stale.)

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  2. Welcome by buxton4 · · Score: 1, Funny

    I for one welcome our new robotic security overlords

    1. Re:Welcome by nick_davison · · Score: 1

      You say that now. Just wait until they get bigger, whiter, and bounce.

      I am a slashdot uid not a number!

    2. Re:Welcome by colmore · · Score: 0

      In Korea only old people use black spherical robotic security guards...

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    3. Re:Welcome by rwise2112 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I am not a number! Oh, wait - I'm number 648849.

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  3. Dijjer links to movies by Sanity · · Score: 4, Informative
    There are a couple of cool movies on the site, but they are pretty big. To save the servers, here are some Dijjer links to them (be patient, Dijjer can take a while to get going, but then it speeds up):
    1. Re:Dijjer links to movies by DarKry · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What better way to spread a trojan than make it a requirement for a link on slashdot... :)

      Not saying thats the case, just a thought.

    2. Re:Dijjer links to movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How bout something that doesn't need installation, like Coral?
      Robot in snow

      Robot outdoors

    3. Re:Dijjer links to movies by Koyaanisqatsi · · Score: 1

      Whatever happened to using something like BT for this. I guess most of the users here already have BT installed, as opposed to Diijer - I know I do.

    4. Re:Dijjer links to movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that to use bittorrent, the server needs to have set up a tracker... And you can use dijjer on any http link.

    5. Re:Dijjer links to movies by caino59 · · Score: 1

      not really a good way - hopefully.

      most of the people reading this, even running windows, should have patched boxes.

      a virus-laden link would have it's purpose served better on the front page of a major news site or web portal.

    6. Re:Dijjer links to movies by Mage+Powers · · Score: 1

      I think I'd be happier with a torrent, everyone is used to Bit Torrent now, and you get more control over it, Dijjer seems to give me no GUI for configuring it.

      Another problem is that it seems to depend on the dijjer.org site to be useful

      Also depending on a certain local port is annoying, what if I absolutely positively need that port due to some other local port using app?

      Personally I think you're trying to use this dijjer thing for something its not really targetted at. I looked at the site and it mentions ipod casting, local http server makes sense in that case, but a gui or status page or something would be nice. Oh, there is a status page http://localhost:9115/, still don't see any options to fiddle with :)

      Hmm, it got stuck at 47% downloaded 32% sent to client, I ended up getting the files direct. if this was bt I could close the torrent thats stuck, open reopen it on the direct download and help seed, just sayin. I am curious of how this initially seeds a file. Download started finally after awhile by it giving in and downloading blocks directly but after the download I think I crashed dijjer by hitting reload on its status page too much.

    7. Re:Dijjer links to movies by Sanity · · Score: 1
      I think I'd be happier with a torrent, everyone is used to Bit Torrent now, and you get more control over it, Dijjer seems to give me no GUI for configuring it.
      Either did the first version of BitTorrent.
      Another problem is that it seems to depend on the dijjer.org site to be useful
      Nope, just uses that as a way to ensure that people are running Dijjer before they try the download. You can get any file direct by requesting from http://127.0.0.1:9115/[url]
      Also depending on a certain local port is annoying, what if I absolutely positively need that port due to some other local port using app?
      This is a nitpick, but in the unlikely event that you need to use a different local port, it can be configured through the command line.
      Personally I think you're trying to use this dijjer thing for something its not really targetted at. I looked at the site and it mentions ipod casting, local http server makes sense in that case, but a gui or status page or something would be nice.
      I can assure you that this is exactly what Dijjer is intended to do. One of Dijjer's advantages is that it works through standard HTTP clients, rather than needing a custom GUI like BitTorrent.
      Oh, there is a status page http://localhost:9115/, still don't see any options to fiddle with :)
      They are all command-line right now, we may enhance this in future (its open source so you are welcome to help implement this if you really want it).
      Hmm, it got stuck at 47% downloaded 32% sent to client, I ended up getting the files direct.
      Strange, we are still debugging, and the website was behaving weirdly which could have caused problems for Dijjer.
      if this was bt I could close the torrent thats stuck, open reopen it on the direct download and help seed, just sayin
      Dijjer supports file resuming. Don't worry about seeding, Dijjer doesn't work like that.
      I am curious of how this initially seeds a file.
      Its explained on the website, but forget BitTorrent, Dijjer works in a completely different way.
    8. Re:Dijjer links to movies by GlobalEcho · · Score: 1

      Dijjer (rhymes, apparently, with "fridge"-er) is a SourceForge project. It claims to be open source and free software, but I'll be darned if I can find any source code for it!

      I will wait until the source is available before installing this one, thanks.

    9. Re:Dijjer links to movies by Hast · · Score: 1

      The source is in the CVS. When I was browsing the mailarchive I saw that Ian Clarke (of Freenet fame) seems to behind this as well. Seems like they aim to target it as smaller files than BT, such as blog updates.

      Too bad that the Uni through which I'm hooked up doesn't allow P2P, it would be fun to try otherwise. They even have a Firefox extention, that's gotta count for something.

      After browsing the "how it works" files is seems to be quite a lot of though behind it. (It's quite a bit more complex than BT eg.) The thing I think seems least robust would be the verification part. It seems like it would be possible to insert false error messages in the system which could cause DDOS of the original server. OTOH perhaps the entire distribution system will help with that as well.

      Oh well, there haven't been any news lately on the P2P front. Fun that something new pops up.

    10. Re:Dijjer links to movies by GlobalEcho · · Score: 1
      Ah, thanks for the link. I was fooled by the line
      CVS Repository ( 0 commits, 0 adds )
      on the project page.

      The little bit of code I perused looks good.
  4. mork be nork... Chicken! by intrepidsilence · · Score: 2, Funny

    Run away from the Swedish Ch... Security Robot!

  5. WTF by Hosting+Geek · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Max of 10 people can view the page.
    Will mirrordot be able to do it job?

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  6. Other uses? by justkarl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Toys/entertainment. One example is a remote controlled robotball for all kinds of terrain

    I have trouble believing that something that makes a good security guard also makes a good children's toy...

    Oh yeah, and what the hell is a robotball?

    1. Re:Other uses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "I have trouble believing that something that makes a good security guard also makes a good children's toy..."

      Just so long as you dont taunt the happy funball.

    2. Re:Other uses? by zenneth · · Score: 1, Funny

      Oh yeah, and what the hell is a robotball?

      Where all the robots come together and have a well-dressed robot social.

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    3. Re:Other uses? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I have trouble believing that something that makes a good security guard also makes a good children's toy...

      Dogs?

    4. Re:Other uses? by British · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have trouble believing that something that makes a good security guard also makes a good children's toy...

      Just attatch a giant weasel to it, and let it go in random directions. Bet that toy will get some attention in the Kay Bee Toys display.

    5. Re:Other uses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The most outstanding property of "Intellectual Property" is that it is not a property."

      Condom?

    6. Re:Other uses? by justkarl · · Score: 1

      Touche.

    7. Re:Other uses? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      Well, with the caveat that it wouldn't be the *same* dog. ;-)

    8. Re:Other uses? by Griim · · Score: 1

      Well hopefully you're not using the same ball for security that your child plays with either. :)

    9. Re:Other uses? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      There's a Micahel Jackson joke lurking in there somewhere.

    10. Re:Other uses? by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 1

      You made a good point, but I sincerely hope you don't see a dog as a toy... dogs take a fair bit of dedication to take care of and train, not something I'd trust a child with. At least not a small child, anyway.

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    11. Re:Other uses? by godzillion · · Score: 1

      I have trouble believing that something that makes a good security guard also makes a good children's toy...

      Guns?

    12. Re:Other uses? by zootm · · Score: 1
      dogs take a fair bit of dedication to take care of and train, not something I'd trust a child with. At least not a small child, anyway.
      I'd be the other way around - I wouldn't trust a dog with a small child.
    13. Re:Other uses? by Boronx · · Score: 1

      Only if you're totally anal about it. Teach a dog not to bite as a puppy, and get one big enough that the kids can't torture it, and that's about it. Unless you're one of those wierdos that lets dogs into your house.

    14. Re:Other uses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If not dogs, how about something more feline? http://www.sciencecartoonsplus.com/galnathi2.htm (flip through a few, you'll find the security guard).

      Oh, wait... Do you mean "Makes a good toy for children," or "Makes a good toy OF children?"

  7. What can it do? by bigtallmofo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Based on the pictures and description on the site, it sure looks like it can go a lot of places. I'm not sure what it can do once it gets there (since it's really just a sphere with notches to act like treads).

    When are robots like Rosie on the Jetsons going to be easily affordable?

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    1. Re:What can it do? by ghoti · · Score: 1

      Hmm, it could explode?

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    2. Re:What can it do? by utexaspunk · · Score: 1

      When are robots like Rosie on the Jetsons going to be easily affordable?

      About the same time that we get flying cars...

    3. Re:What can it do? by Headw1nd · · Score: 1
      It screams and calls the cops.

      No, seriously.

      thats all it needs to do. It calls the cops, then follows you around as you attempt your theft/sabotage/espionage/whatever emitting the loudest noise it can. It's going to keep you from being effective, and when the authorities arrive, you're easy to find. So when it spots you, you have to flee (or destroy it), making it much like a dog who can operate a cell phone.

    4. Re:What can it do? by klik · · Score: 1

      small round balls that scream... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114367/

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    5. Re:What can it do? by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 1

      I think that, even if I weren't doing anything wrong, I would probably destroy any small ball that was following me around & screaming all the time.

    6. Re:What can it do? by Mr+Z · · Score: 1

      According to the article, that thing can get up to 20MPH, too, so it can put up a pretty good chase. As long as it stays with an intruder, it can act as a giant homing beacon, radioing back exact position information in real time. (Not that a large rolling black ball wouldn't stand out...) I wonder what the battery life is.

      As a point of calibration: A 4 minute mile is 15MPH. Just how many runners can do that?

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    7. Re:What can it do? by monkeydo · · Score: 1

      What if I invert a trash can on top of it?

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    8. Re:What can it do? by Headw1nd · · Score: 1
      I think it's usefulness will be limited to certain areas. It can outrun you on semi-even ground, but it has zero climbing ability. To evade it you just need cross some type of obstacle it can't surmount, like a fence, low wall, or ditch. Unfortunatly, it doesn't seem capable of climbing stairs, which would limit its pursuit capabilites in many situations.

      Not to mention the ubiquitous door...

      On adifferent note, I wonder if it would actually trip you, if it kept running into and under your feet as it tried to keep up to you. If it did, it would make it that much harder to escape. You'd have to walk away carefully.

  8. They figured out step 2 by lecithin · · Score: 1

    Step 1, build the rover.

    Step 3, Profit.

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    1. Re:They figured out step 2 by FluffyPanda · · Score: 2, Funny

      Errr...

      Step 2: Sell the rover to gullible, security conscious firms?

    2. Re:They figured out step 2 by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Funny
      Errr...

      Step 2: Sell the rover to gullible, security conscious firms?

      Clearly their intention...though I think they'd end up making more money by simply doing:

      2. Fire Rick Berman out of a cannon, charging $5 admission to watch

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    3. Re:They figured out step 2 by swdunlop · · Score: 1

      You got my $5.

    4. Re:They figured out step 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or...

      2. Fire G. Lucas out of a cannon, charging $10 admissin to watch, and releassing the original DVD... the extended digital version, the ... and so on and so forth.
      Amen.

  9. Seen it before? by moz25 · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of the spherical robot in The Incredibles.

    I'm not sure I agree with their marketing talk though: they claim that a single security officer can cost op to $200k for 24 hours. That seems rather steep...

    1. Re:Seen it before? by Attaturk · · Score: 3, Funny


      Here's a group of them out on patrol.

    2. Re:Seen it before? by PixelThis · · Score: 2, Informative

      It would be hard to employ a single person for a 24hour shift, at least for more than 3 days in a row. In general to efficiently cover 24 hours you need three or four people. Assuming $20k plus additional employer contributions of $10k. You'd be talking $90k - $120k for minimum wage security. If you want well trained people, the cost could easily double. Plus all the additional insurance you'd want if your security force is armed.

    3. Re:Seen it before? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      That's for a Swedish 24 security - three officers, all with background checks working 8 hour shifts, two with 500% overtime. In the US you can get a gun totin' ex con with a chronic speed problem to be a 24 hour rent-a-cop for much less.

      Hell, I do it just for the power and unlimited coffee/net access. It's not like my job is in danger of being outsourced/downsized either, especially as I have a reputation for being bit trigger happy.

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    4. Re:Seen it before? by eatmywake · · Score: 0

      Here's another one with a bunch of his out-of-town buddies being probed by humans.

    5. Re:Seen it before? by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      Or more.

      Think about it, you need at least four guards to have 100% coverage 24/7, and that's not including restroom breaks, training, vacation, or sick time.

      That gives you $50k per guard, per year. That's not enough in the USA for armed security, that's barely enough for a guard who's marginally less likely to steal stuff than somebody else.

      More realisticly you'll need at least 6-8 guards (once you get 4-5 guards you're going to need a supervisor). Then you're getting into minimum wage territory.

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    6. Re:Seen it before? by AviLazar · · Score: 1

      8 guards, each making 50k/year = 400k/year. That comes out a bit different then 200k/24 hour period.

      Unless the grandparent post misquoted - the article is /.'d so I am going by his " can cost op to 200k for 24 hours"

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    7. Re:Seen it before? by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      That's for a Swedish 24 security - three officers, all with background checks working 8 hour shifts, two with 500% overtime. In the US you can get a gun totin' ex con with a chronic speed problem to be a 24 hour rent-a-cop for much less.

      Um, you do realize that a ex con isn't legally allowed to carry or own a firearm, even in the USA?

      There's an awful lot of unarmed 'security' even in the states, as you need to go up a few cuts in employee quality and training before you start handing out the firearms. Of course, guns are common enough in the states that I consider unarmed 'security' not much more than uniformed witnesses.

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    8. Re:Seen it before? by Mr+Z · · Score: 1
      Um, you do realize that a ex con isn't legally allowed to carry or own a firearm, even in the USA?

      That's if you're a convicted felon. If you're convicted for petty crimes (check kiting, credit card fraud, recreational drug possession (depending on jurisdiction), etc.) that are generally misdemeanors, then you can still tote a gun.

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    9. Re:Seen it before? by Mr+Z · · Score: 1

      The original statement was that "24 hour service" can cost up to $200K. The anchor for this thread misinterpreted that to mean $200K for a 24 hour period. Most of the responders correctly interpreted the article.

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    10. Re:Seen it before? by AviLazar · · Score: 1

      I didn't have access to the article at the time of posting (/.'d).

      Now the question is - would you rather have 8 intuitive gaurds or a bunch of these things running around. While i think this would be a great supplement (hidden eyes/ears) that could check up on anything - including the gaurds - I would also prefer gaurds to be around.

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    11. Re:Seen it before? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would be hard to employ a single person for a 24hour shift, at least for more than 3 days in a row.....

      Where's the "Duh!!" moderation option?

    12. Re:Seen it before? by Mr+Z · · Score: 1

      I think the intent of the "rover" was to help cover gaps. To have true 24hr coverage (covering lunch, bathroom, coffee breaks too), you need to have 6 to 8 guys. But, if you can cut that back to 4 or 5 and have rover fill the gaps--"Hey Frank, get outta the can, someone suspicious is near loading dock 7!"--that's a significant cost savings beyond the cost of the rover. (Especially if the cost of the rover is a nearly fixed cost vs. recurring personnel costs. This assumes the rover lasts a few years.)

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    13. Re:Seen it before? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I could fill a stadium with security guards and still not have 8 intuitive guards.

    14. Re:Seen it before? by RollingThunder · · Score: 1

      If you're the type who is considering somebody with a chronic speed problem as a candidate for an armed guard, then I think their legal right to carry a firearm is not even going to be on your radar.

    15. Re:Seen it before? by ikkonoishi · · Score: 1

      But do they take into account the amount of time the guards will spend just playing around with the robot?

    16. Re:Seen it before? by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but my definition of an "ex convict" tends to be for felons. Somebody who does thirty days in jail for DUI doesn't really count.

      Differences in definitions I guess.

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    17. Re:Seen it before? by Nyrath+the+nearly+wi · · Score: 1

      It also reminds me of the Zeroids, those spherical robots from the old SF puppet show Terrahawks.

  10. Re:Yes, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You forgot to say : 'imagine a Beowulf cluster of this ...'

  11. Another article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6932 Another article which might be useful since their site is slashdotted now...

  12. slow server response... by kaan · · Score: 1, Funny

    slashdotted already? since it took about 60 seconds to load the main page, perhaps they're using that Rotundus robot as a web server...

  13. Best error ever by BearJ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    530 Sorry, the maximum number of allowed clients (10) already connected Man, what a massive client limit. Ironically, it's probably what will keep their server from grinding to a total halt...though I shudder to think how many 530's it's spewing out at the moment.

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    1. Re:Best error ever by Neophytus · · Score: 1

      10 clients is the limit for IIS running from anything but a $$$ installation of windows server 2000/2003

    2. Re:Best error ever by afidel · · Score: 1

      Yes, because $350-$400 for a copy of Windows Server 2003 web edition is SO expensive for a company that makes expensive robots. Not. If you want to have a presence on the web for your company don't do it by using a workstation as your information disemination device.

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    3. Re:Best error ever by spleck · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, because $350-$400 for a copy of Windows Server 2003 web edition is SO expensive for a company that makes expensive robots.

      You mean CalTech? Did you notice the link is to a picture from the Prisoner? Did you notice its on an edu? Not related to the company OR the robot?

    4. Re:Best error ever by FluffyPanda · · Score: 1

      Very true. You need to click "Server" in the package selection menu of your linux distro.

      Linux - Because $400 is only affordable if you can actually sell one of your expensive robots

    5. Re:Best error ever by afidel · · Score: 0

      My bad, with the site slashdoted I assumed it was some company doing things on the cheap, didn't notice the .edu in the URL. Mea culpa.

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    6. Re:Best error ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a student here at Caltech and I'm not surprised UGCS has set such a low limit. UGCS stands for UnderGraduate Computer Science; it's a student run computer lab that doesn't exactly have the money for high power servers, let alone computers that wouldn't flat out explode under a full-fledged ./ing.

  14. 24 hour security by FluffyPanda · · Score: 5, Funny

    In the security business as a whole there is a strong pressure to replace humans with technology in order to reduce costs and increase security. Substantial savings are possible because a single security officer can cost up to $200 000 for a 24 hour service.

    Wages: $20,000
    Perks: $10,000
    Employer contributions: $15,000
    Caffeine required for continuous operation: $155,000

    1. Re:24 hour security by who+got+my+name · · Score: 0

      You forgot one more:
      Security: PRICELESS.
      MasterCard

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    2. Re:24 hour security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Watching escapees' faces get smushed into that white blob goo stuff: priceless.

    3. Re:24 hour security by plopez · · Score: 1

      I can't remember the name of the movie, but it was about a kid who breaks into a research center and fakes out the motion sensors with a couple of frisbees.

      It shows the security guard watching the sensors freak out and and saying something like "Damn technology. I wish I had just one good right now".

      Seriously by the time you get done paying for the hardware + 'upgrades' (bug fixes for the software) + power costs + connsultants and technicians it would probably be cheaper to hire some rotweilers + handlers. And never underestimmate the deterrent effect of dogs.

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    4. Re:24 hour security by bfizzle · · Score: 1

      Maybe this is one of those rental service where they drive by randomly through out the day.

    5. Re:24 hour security by xystren · · Score: 1

      I think your thinking of "The Manhatten Project" [IMDB.COM] which is about the grade 11 student that builds an atomic bomb.

      Not a great movie, but that was an interesting "MacGyver" scene.

      Cheers,
      Xyst

  15. Obligatory Simpsons quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why did you think a giant bubble would stop them?

    Shut up, that's why!

    1. Re:Obligatory Simpsons quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See also here.

  16. And if that doesn't work... by kiwidefunkt · · Score: 2, Funny

    Scientists noted that if the whole "robot security guard" thing doesn't pan out, the rover is also available to do children's parties.

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    1. Re:And if that doesn't work... by AunixM3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I wouldn't want my kid playing with something originally intended to be a security guard

    2. Re:And if that doesn't work... by LordNimon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Your children will have to learn the harsh realities of life sooner or later. Why not start with a cute, shiny ball?

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    3. Re:And if that doesn't work... by AndroidCat · · Score: 0

      Would you let your kid play with security guard balls? Yugh!

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    4. Re:And if that doesn't work... by Cheerio+Boy · · Score: 1, Funny

      Your children will have to learn the harsh realities of life sooner or later. Why not start with a cute, shiny ball?

      Do not taunt happy fun ball!

      ;-)

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    5. Re:And if that doesn't work... by ikkonoishi · · Score: 1

      Timmy Step Away from the Birthday cake.

      You have 20 seconds to comply.

      15.

      10.

      5.
      4.
      3.
      2.
      1.

      I am now authorized to use force.
      [gunshots]

  17. Looks Kind like.... by Nashirak · · Score: 3, Funny

    "And now Princess you will tell me the location of the rebel base." (Just missing the two shots on the side)

    1. Re:Looks Kind like.... by FluffyPanda · · Score: 1, Funny

      Have you seen those black security camera housings in big shops? Now those look like the torture droids. I used to drift off into robot evasion fantasy in BHS all the time as a kid.

      *sigh* the innocence of geek youth.

  18. The robot guard... by Gorffy · · Score: 3, Funny

    It can not be talked to. It can not be reasoned with. It has no mercy, no sympathy. It will not stop until it has carried out it's tasks. It will kill without feeling... So where can I get one?

  19. Mirror of rover.gif by XorNand · · Score: 1


    Here's the linked image in the submission

    (This is probably the dumbest mirror ever, but oh well...)

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  20. Oh no! by thenetbox · · Score: 1, Funny

    Nerds and Geeks beware... It's a weight training medicine ball! Run.

    1. Re:Oh no! by Leroy_Brown242 · · Score: 1

      We can't 'run', our legs have atrophied too far into oblivion!

  21. I can see it now... by Rykky · · Score: 2, Funny

    Robot rolls up to an Intruder and shouts out "Halt! Who goes there!". Intruder gives it a nudge and replies "Seeya around" :)

    1. Re:I can see it now... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      I'd just close a door between it and me. These things would be even funnier than Daleks with stairs.

      --
      One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
  22. simple to defeat? by torpor · · Score: 1, Funny

    all you gotta do is drape a canvas bag over it, and oila.. no more rolly polly.

    which is why i am in favour of robobally-cop havin' frickin' lazer beams on its head^H^H^H^Houter circumference, somewhere ...

    --
    ; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
    1. Re:simple to defeat? by AviLazar · · Score: 0

      alright Gandalf.

      --

      I mod down so you can mod up. Your welcome.
  23. Robot Floor Duster by Y+Ddraig+Goch · · Score: 1

    Isn't there some kind of robot floor duster that looks like this?

    --
    Meddle thou not in the affairs of Dragons, for thou art crunchy and with most anything.
    1. Re:Robot Floor Duster by Y+Ddraig+Goch · · Score: 1

      Sorry should have "Googled" first
      https://www.asseenontvnetwork.com/vcc/telebrands/r obomaid/122770/

      --
      Meddle thou not in the affairs of Dragons, for thou art crunchy and with most anything.
    2. Re:Robot Floor Duster by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      The ball thingy in Katamari Damacy can pick up both dust (early on) *and* felons (later on) -

      http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=55 833

      --
      echo -e 'global _start\n _start:\n mov eax, 2\n int 80h\n jmp _start' > a.asm; nasm a.asm -f elf; ld a.o -o a;
  24. A better marketing plan for Rotundus by mynickwastaken · · Score: 2, Funny

    I propose a better marketing program.

    1. Make rotundus smaller, of a size and weight of a bowling ball
    2. Sell it to thoose guys which are trying picking up chicks from Bowling Arena.
    3. Profit

  25. Pah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They've got a lot of catching up to do in the spherical security robots category.

  26. Beware The Rotundus Rover by BossMC · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Beware The Rotundus Rover"

    Beware of the British Leyland Rover as well.

    1. Re:Beware The Rotundus Rover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I drive a '73 Rover your insensitve clod!

    2. Re:Beware The Rotundus Rover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah, the Series Rover. Beats the pants of any round ball security guard. Rover polo anyone?

      '73 Series 3 SWB

    3. Re:Beware The Rotundus Rover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drive? or Own?

    4. Re:Beware The Rotundus Rover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      both

  27. Newspaper link by thetroll123 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Daily Telegraph had a front-page piece about this today. Slow news day, obviously! The idea that it could be trained to corner burglars seems a bit far-fetched (staircase, anyone?) but the idea of it chasing after intruders while phoning the police, taking photos and, presumably, shouting "EXTERMINATE!" is pretty cool...

  28. A few things by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 1

    How do you mount a gun on it if its security? Or is it just one big bomb that rolls up and detonates on you? It'd be cool if it was like a pill bug robot, that could climb walls and morph into a ball. Or maybe its the suit from metroid.

    1. Re:A few things by kjamez · · Score: 1

      or land on someone and trap them inside with no air.

      or maybe give them air but deflate/shrink to hold the body motionless.

      --
      you can't have everything, where would you put it?
    2. Re:A few things by ingo23 · · Score: 1

      It's a rolling ball - a natural platform for a rotating barrel machine gun

    3. Re:A few things by dbIII · · Score: 1
      How do you mount a gun on it if its security?
      You don't. If you want a mindless killing machine you can always just lay a minefield. We can't even do reliable face recognition yet, so giving a robot a gun and the independant ability to fire it is stupid.
  29. Bowling anyone? by kyoorius · · Score: 0

    Bowling anyone?

    1. Re:Bowling anyone? by kyoorius · · Score: 2, Informative

      or marble madness..

      Anyone remember that toy called the "Go ball"?

  30. Robot Security Guard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just hope it works better than this thing.

    1. Re:Robot Security Guard? by Thud457 · · Score: 1
      --

      the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  31. 24 hour security: 1911-A1 .45 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Carried "cocked and locked", much better than some sort of Rover.

    http://packing.org/ for more info.

  32. Welcome to the Village by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ;-/

    Who would have thunk She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named was a The Prisoner fan?

  33. Note to self by GuyZero · · Score: 2, Funny

    1) not a number, free man
    2) find out who is #1?
    3) plug the fucking keyhole on front door

  34. Re:Got Mirror ? iop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yes

  35. It's not that bad... by halivar · · Score: 1, Funny

    At least they don't look like jumped-up salt shakers.

    1. Re:It's not that bad... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      I'm sure the Daleks will forgive you for that comment when they invade.

      --
      echo -e 'global _start\n _start:\n mov eax, 2\n int 80h\n jmp _start' > a.asm; nasm a.asm -f elf; ld a.o -o a;
  36. "pendulum power"? by FooAtWFU · · Score: 2, Informative
    Pendulum power? Been there, done that.
    SMITH & TINKER'S Patent Double-Action, Extra-Responsive, Thought-Creating, Perfect-Talking MECHANICAL MAN Fitted with our Special Clock-Work Attachment. Thinks, Speaks, Acts, and Does Everything but Live. Manufactured only at our Works at Evna, Land of Ev. All infringements will be promptly Prosecuted according to Law.
    You'll be hearing from our lawyers.
    --
    The World Wide Web is dying. Soon, we shall have only the Internet.
  37. Re:Yes, but by FullMetalAlchemist · · Score: 1

    No, but NetBSD ;P

  38. The Prisoner by Zecritic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In The Prisoner, their security is a big ball of canvas filled with something and it suffocates people trying to escape. Why don't they try that?

    --
    "Scientists have proof without certainty; Creationists have certainty without proof" -Ashley Montagu
    1. Re:The Prisoner by Mr+Z · · Score: 1

      It's actually a weather balloon. :-)

    2. Re:The Prisoner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A weather baloon filled with swamp gas, repeat after me, a weather baloon filled with swamp gas...

  39. Re:Yes, but by Mick+Ohrberg · · Score: 0

    I wonder if IKEA will carry them.

    --

    Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur.

  40. Re:Yes, but by Alien+Being · · Score: 1

    You could probably roll your own. I crack me up.

  41. Unconfirmed source reports by sharkey · · Score: 1

    The working title for this project was "ED-209".

    --

    --
    "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
  42. 200K / 24 hours by Uptown+Joe · · Score: 0

    That would be 4 guys at 50K a year... (you can't expect 1 guy to be there 24 hours a day 7 days a week, even if he is Gary Coleman)

  43. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  44. Based on the performance of the web server... by Phixxr · · Score: 1

    I figure i could bypass the security robot just by screaming 10 different commands at it at once.. it'll jsut freeze up like the server did :) __Phixxr

    --
    ungggghhhh
  45. Rock'n'roll by StuckInSyrup · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...all-terrain pendulum powered sphere...

    This gives the good old Rock'n'Roll a new dimension.

    --
    Ni.
  46. Easy to evade by utexaspunk · · Score: 0

    Just get in a corner!

  47. Re:The Prisioner!!! by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    It's a very cool show. Made 30 years ago, it attacks topics which are even more relevant today, like privacy/secrecy and the eternal struggle between the individual and society. DVDs readily available for rental. The final episode got a lot of people pissed off, which is all I'll say.

  48. It just wants to be happy. by clambake · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think I will name it Colin.

  49. Re:The Village by ukmountie · · Score: 1

    This is not offtopic. I was looking for a Reference. Spherical Security guards are hardly a new idea.

  50. It's a Droideka you ninnies! by czarangelus · · Score: 1

    I am ashamed of every last one of you!! How could I possibly be the first to say -Droideka-?

    --
    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
    1. Re:It's a Droideka you ninnies! by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

      I'm not quite sure what a "-Droideka-" is, but my best guess is what I think the Chinese alien said before the dumb tripod robots attacked the two guys with funny ponytails in George Lucas' crash and burn movie, which I refuse to associate by title with the Star Wars movies that made him famous.

      If you want a good SciFi reference relevant to rolling balls of death, think Arena by Frederic Brown.

  51. Sad little robot by CarrionBird · · Score: 2, Insightful
    So they send a unarmed little ball against all intruders?

    Might as well call it Marvin while you're at it.

    --
    Free Mac Mini Yeah, it's
    1. Re:Sad little robot by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      "I think you're overlooking something fundamental in the relationship between humans and robots."

      --

      the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  52. Cheap alternative by HogynCymraeg · · Score: 1

    If you're poor, you could try one of these.

  53. It's the Infinity Ball! by ZX-3 · · Score: 1

    Paint a while eight on it, and you'll have the Infinity Ball, from The Tick!

  54. Re:The Prisioner!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For cool read "so off the wall nobody really understood it so presumed it must be intelligent, deep and meaningful". In actuality it was just a combination of drug induced writing and bad acting. Not unlike a lot of British TV of the era.

  55. Re:Security price tag real steep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know who they surveyed to get the $200K price tag for security guards, but I'm sure I'd like to get that wage!

  56. This robot must be depressed. by ehiris · · Score: 3, Funny

    It aspired to be an astronaut exploring new worlds but became a rent-a-cop replacement.

    1. Re:This robot must be depressed. by Exatron · · Score: 1

      You'd be depressed too if you had a brain the size of the planet and... oh never mind, you probably don't care anyway.

      --
      "I think so, Brain, but 'instant karma' always gets so lumpy." - Pinky
      "Decepticons FOREVER!!!" - Ravage
  57. WOW Dijjer Blows the doors off bitTorrent by goombah99 · · Score: 1
    Wow Dijjer seems to be a revolutionary concept. I cant beleive I never heard of it before. Their web site is self explanatory. But notice the little text box in the right hand corner to really approeciate what makes Dijjer special.

    The obvious question on everyone's mind is "hey isn't this bit torrent?". the answer is no. It has the same effect (cooperative downloading) but the cool thing is that ANYTHING on the web is ready to download this way. That's right it's like someone created an torrent tracker for the entire world wide web!!!

    As the little box explains, right click on any link and it loads the link using P2P rather than http. ANY link. the web site does NOT have to even know you are doing this or participate. The web site does not have the tracker.

    This is a break through.

    moreover it's not like you dowload the media to disk and then play it later. it works right in your bowser so from your point of view its a normal web page.

    --
    Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
    1. Re:WOW Dijjer Blows the doors off bitTorrent by Greger47 · · Score: 1
      Dijjer requires a known "root" node for the p2p network to which clients initially connect. The current client connects by default to a root node run by the makers of Dijjer.

      Bittorrent requires someone to run a tracker, Dijjer requires someone to run a root node. I don't see any big breakthroughs here. Dijjer might have a slightly more userfriendly way for the publisher to seed his file but thats about it.

      /greger

    2. Re:WOW Dijjer Blows the doors off bitTorrent by goombah99 · · Score: 1
      Dijjer does not require the content provider to do ANYTHING. No torrent to set up. Dijjer essentially provides clinet requested just-in-time torrent trackker. Big difference.

      Content providers could also use Dijjer to serve webapges--cant do that with bit-torrent. To give an example, imagine slashdot was served off of say a commodore 64 but required dijjer to access. it would probabbly work except for the dynamic personalized content. But you could not even think about doing that with bit torrent since it would not even work in a browser.

      --
      Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
    3. Re:WOW Dijjer Blows the doors off bitTorrent by Sanity · · Score: 1
      Bittorrent requires someone to run a tracker, Dijjer requires someone to run a root node. I don't see any big breakthroughs here.
      Then you really aren't looking very hard.

      The point with Dijjer is that the content distributor doesn't have to do anything to publish their content. The only purpose of the seed node is to bootstrap peers into the Dijjer network, once your peer starts up it doesn't need the seed node any more, irrespective of how many files you download. With BitTorrent, the tracker must be kept running by the content distributor for as long as they want to distribute their content.

      Add to that the fact that Dijjer does automatic firewall penetration, that it can stream content straight to browsers (allowing media to be played back as it is downloading) and you really need to be suffering from some serious visual impairment if you can't see how much of an advance it is over BitTorrent.

    4. Re:WOW Dijjer Blows the doors off bitTorrent by Hast · · Score: 1
      Content providers could also use Dijjer to serve webapges--cant do that with bit-torrent.

      You could, but there isn't much of a point since BT isn't very effective for small files.

      Dijjer seems to be a neat pice of code though. GPL as well!
  58. "probably the dumbest mirror ever, but"... by whathappenedtomonday · · Score: 1
    at least you took the time - thanks!

    Slashdot - where news are taken down immediately by linking to them. Stuff that you'd like to read but can't, because some clever guy posted a link on /.

    --
    I hope I didn't brain my damage.
  59. Prisoner's Rover... by jaythree9 · · Score: 1

    Was a weather balloon, and it was big enough to swallow a man. This one I might use in FourSquare, but it would probably cheat.

    1. Re:Prisoner's Rover... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, that reminds me of "The Prisoner" which was a 1967-1968 BBC television program. The progam was also shown here in the US and I occasionally watched it when I was growing up. On most episodes number 6 would try to escape from the village on the island and was usually captured by Rover, the giant robotic beachball at the end of each episode. For those who do not remember the series here is a link (sorry no photo of the big ballon).

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061287/

  60. Cool, a terrahawk! by johnsmith2005 · · Score: 2

    Presumably they will have the ability to play noughts and crosses.
    And come with the perfect security guard voice of Winsdor Davis.

  61. Karma Whore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Karma Whore

  62. BitTorrent by Nahor · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here you go.
    Max initial upload 30KB/s.
    Up for the next 24h or so.

    1. Re:BitTorrent by Nahor · · Score: 1

      I was missing one file in the torrent, so I updated it. The two or three people who already downloaded it may want to get the update.

      Sorry about that. One day, I'll get torrent hosting right on the first try. :)

    2. Re:BitTorrent by Koyaanisqatsi · · Score: 1

      thnx!

      Downloading right now, I'll be seeding it for the next seven hours at least.

    3. Re:BitTorrent by RudeDude · · Score: 2, Informative

      Since many of us don't want to install yet more P2P software, mod up parent!
      Torrent
      Tracker

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      RudeDude
      Perl/Linux/PHP hacker
  63. Has anyone done the Happy Fun Ball joke yet? by DarthWiggle · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball!"

    Meh.

  64. I personally by cr0y · · Score: 1

    Always wondering why no one thought of a ball as a robot before, It all made sense for a while. However if it gets stuck between a rock and....another rock it has very little ability to get itself lose. Seems like situations like this is still where tires/wheels have an advantage.

    --

    ItWasFree.com - Take the mystery
  65. Re:The Prisioner!!! by Harodotus · · Score: 1

    In case, like me, you missed the final episode of "The Prisioner" a summary of the final episode and it's issues is available here: Prisioner final episode spoiler and issues

    --
    Its not users who are broken, it's systems not taking account their likely behaviour and fixing it technically.
  66. Design flaw! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It doesn't seems an octopus...

  67. Oblig Bon Scott... by KnarfO · · Score: 1

    "Some balls are held for charity
    and some for fancy dress
    but when they're held for pleas^H^H^H^H^H robots
    they're the balls that I like best!" :-P

    --


    "Creativity is allowing ones self to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep" - Scott Adams
  68. Marvin and the Tank by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Marvin stood at the end of the bridge corridor. He was not in fact a particularly small robot. His silver body gleamed in the dusty sunbeams and shook with the continual barrage which the building was still undergoing.

    He did, however, look pitifully small as the gigantic black tank rolled to a halt in front of him. The tank examined him with a probe. The probe withdrew. Marvin stood there.<P>

    "Out of my way little robot," growled the tank.<P>

    "I'm afraid," said Marvin, "that I've been left here to stop you."<P>

    The probe extended again for a quick recheck. It withdrew again.

    "You? Stop me?" roared the tank. "Go on!"<P>

    "No, really I have," said Marvin simply.<P>

    "What are you armed with?" roared the tank in disbelief.<P>

    "Guess," said Marvin.<P>

    The tank's engines rumbled, its gears ground. Molecule-sized electronic relays deep in its micro-brain flipped backwards and forwards in consternation.

    "Guess?" said the tank.<P>

    ...<P>

    "Yes, go on," said Marvin to the huge battle machine, "you'll never guess."<P>

    "Errmmm ..." said the machine, vibrating with unaccustomed thought, "laser beams?"<P>

    Marvin shook his head solemnly.<P>

    "No," muttered the machine in its deep guttural rumble, "Too obvious. Anti-matter ray?" it hazarded.<P>

    "Far too obvious," admonished Marvin.<P>

    "Yes," grumbled the machine, somewhat abashed, "Er ... how about an electron ram?"<P>

    This was new to Marvin.

    "What's that?" he said.<P>

    "One of these," said the machine with enthusiasm.<P>

    From its turret emerged a sharp prong which spat a single lethal blaze of light. Behind Marvin a wall roared and collapsed as a heap of dust. The dust billowed briefly, then settled.<P>

    "No," said Marvin, "not one of those."<P>

    "Good though, isn't it?"<P>

    "Very good," agreed Marvin.<P>

    "I know," said the Frogstar battle machine, after another moment's consideration, "you must have one of those new Xanthic Re-Structron Destabilized Zenon Emitters!"<P>

    "Nice, aren't they?" said Marvin.<P>

    "That's what you've got?" said the machine in considerable awe.<P>

    "No," said Marvin.<P>

    "Oh," said the machine, disappointed, "then it must be ..."<P>

    "You're thinking along the wrong lines," said Marvin, "You're failing to take into account something fairly basic in the relationship between men and robots."<P>

    "Er, I know," said the battle machine, "is it ..." it tailed off into thought again.<P>

    "Just think," urged Marvin, "they left me, an ordinary, menial robot, to stop you, a gigantic heavy-duty battle machine, whilst they ran off to save themselves. What do you think they would
    leave me with?"<P>

    "Oooh, er," muttered the machine in alarm, "something pretty damn devastating I should expect."<P>

    "Expect!" said Marvin, "oh yes, expect. I'll tell you what they gave me to protect myself with shall I?"<P>

    "Yes, alright," said the battle machine, bracing itself.<P>

    "Nothing," said Marvin.<P>

    There was a dangerous pause.

    "Nothing?" roared the battle machine.<P>

    "Nothing at all," intoned Marvin dismally, "not an electronic sausage."<P>

    The machine heaved about with fury.

    "Well, doesn't that just take the biscuit!" it roared, "Nothing, eh? Just don't think, do they?"<P>

    "And me," said Marvin in a soft low voice, "with this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left side."<P>

    "Makes you spit, doesn't it?"<P>

    "Yes," agreed Marvin with feeling.<P>

    "Hell that makes me angry," bellowed the machine, "think I'll smash that wall down!"

  69. Criminals add another item to their must have list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Due to the new spherical security bots patroling the hallways, the criminal tools list has an addendum of a large foldable cardboard box. Your tipical fridge packaging box will suffice.

    This setup is ideal, as it allows one to hide behind the box, until the right moment, at which to cover the security bot.

    One may wish to leave some holes at the top of the box to disorient the bot, if it looks for a source of light for orientation.

    -- Crafty and Silent

  70. Evil Otto by sdsichero · · Score: 1

    Yes it has been done before... "Intruder Alert!" http://www.thewarp.net/war/tigersofveda/berzerkevi lotto.gif

  71. Kids' parties are a tougher job...... by OmniGeek · · Score: 1

    If the thing can't hack it as a security guard, it's DOOMED as a kids' party chaperone/herdsman. All the cleverness of adults with none of their awareness of "but you can't do that". Kids will think of angles no adult would ever come across. Toughest audience imaginable for a security device...

    --

    "My strength is as the strength of ten men, for I am wired to the eyeballs on espresso."
    1. Re:Kids' parties are a tougher job...... by PedanticSpellingTrol · · Score: 1
      Bullshit, I had an eighth grade teacher who took a group of supposedly gifted kids on an overnight trip every year. To keep everyone in their room after lights out, she'd put a piece of tape over the room doors. Every year, somebody got busted the next morning for having left their room, and every year, nobody ever figured out the solution that would be obvious to you or me.

      It was a hell of a lot of fun watching the ones that caught finally get it while viewing "Spartacus" in history the next year.

  72. Re:Criminals add another item to their must have l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No doubt. Cheap and effective. You could add a large bowl to that list, with which to cradle the thing in so it can't move :) Or maybe even a large wet towel to go around it's base, haha!

    Next thing ya know, there's used chewing gum at every crime scene, gunking up the rolling bots, heh.

  73. Dark-side Artoo (hhok)? by jthulin · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know if there will be a new improved version of it, capable of firing plasma? Or hope so? *):oD

  74. Re:What can it do? electrocution ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One option is to cover the ball in a gridwork of electrodes and electrocute the target.

    Or, you could turn those little pegs for feet into tazers so that you'd have a grid of a few hundred projectile electrocutor thingys.

    heheheh weeeeee

  75. Re:The Prisioner!!! by h4rm0ny · · Score: 1


    And may I say for anyone who hasn't yet clicked the above link, "DON'T!"

    No offense to the parent poster, but go and watch the series yourself and you'll appreciate a lot more. You'll also develop an irrational fear of balloons.

    And to anyone who has seen the last episode, all I will say is "The leg bone's connected to the hip bone."

    --

    Aide-toi, le Ciel t'aidera - Jeanne D'Arc.
  76. Dijjer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    That is clever. It runs as a little mini-webserver. It's a Java program so it runs everywhere on every system.

    To save you from having to download to try it out: Dijjer maps the file name to a file served on 127.0.0.1:XXXX. Then you have to download and run a little jar (java -jar dijjer.jar). Then you click the link to download, and the Dijjer jar does whatever its magic is.

    I hope it doesn't share all the files on my computer.

  77. Re:The Prisioner!!! by Harodotus · · Score: 1

    Well I did tag the link as a spoiler... Its just that i saw a few episodes of "The Prisioner" many years ago, and kinda liked em, but wasn't willing to go as far as tracking down the whole series on DVD but still wanted to know how it turned out.

    I mean why would i want to go to all that trouble just be annoyed that it ended poorly?

    --
    Its not users who are broken, it's systems not taking account their likely behaviour and fixing it technically.
  78. Sniff, sniff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Smells more like astroturf to me.

  79. Re:The Prisioner!!! by objekt · · Score: 1

    "It's a very cool show. Made 30 years ago"

    Closer to 40, actually.

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    -- Boycott Shell
  80. ... what a joke ... by ninjagin · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Somehow I thought Swedes were brighter than this.

    Granted, a camera that rolls around inside a sealed sphere is a neat idea by itself, but the suggested security applications are just plain poorly-thought-out.

    Consider that anyone with a weighted net or a tube of epoxy could immobilize the thing. A tarp with sandbag corners could both blind and immobilize the unit.

    Consider that even though it can be sealed to eliminate the chance of water dirt or mud getting inside, covering it with mud will make it useless anyway, especially if immobilized.

    One quarter-can of spray paint should be enough to cover the whole ball. Sure its mobile, but if it's blind it's not useful.

    It can't climb stairs or ladders and it can't rattle doorknobs. It can't look into windows at eye-level and it can't shine a flashlight into areas. It can't collar, beat up or shoot trespassers/transgressors. There's no mention of audio monitoring capability, either.

    To quote TFA; "In the security business as a whole there is a strong pressure to replace humans with technology in order to reduce costs and increase security. Substantial savings are possible because a single security officer can cost up to $200,000 for a 24 hour service."

    Sure, hiring real people to do security work is expensive, but you get real people doing the work, and the capabilities of real people are far greater than a camera-in-a-beachball.

    To be fair, I'll also grant that human security guards may be prone to laziness, sleeping on the job, not being observant, etc. However, the idea that a rolling ball has enough capability to replace a real person (eyes and ears, a nightstick, a flashlight, a gun and a loop of keys) is pretty far out. Even patrolling parking lots seem like a stretch to me.

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    1. Re:... what a joke ... by dbIII · · Score: 1
      Consider that anyone with a weighted net or a tube of epoxy could immobilize the thing
      By which time it has done it's job - there's the perp! The guy with five kilograms of freshly chewed gum! Despite what appears in the movies, real epoxy takes time to set, even if you mix it to set very fast (and get very hot in the process) it will not set in seconds. A net would do the job, by then they guy on the desk is wondering why alarms are going off about mobile camera two not being able to move.
      It can't climb stairs or ladders and it can't rattle doorknobs
      ie. Only works in areas with disabled access. What we are talking about here is just a mobile camera with alarms - someone still needs to watch the screens, check the doors are locked etc. It cuts down on the repetitive stuff and looks like it is designed to cut down on the number of people required on a shift.
    2. Re:... what a joke ... by ninjagin · · Score: 1
      Thank you for highlighting the irregularities.

      The unit can be immobilized easily, and blinded easily.

      Any tourist in London can tell you about how fast the cops came after they were mugged or pick-pocketed in the tube. 10 minutes? 20 minutes?

      I wouldn't leave beachball cameras in charge of an ice cream social.

      Gimme ten seconds with a shovel while I'm wearin' a scarf and you'll have no clue who shut off the pansy digital eyes. One tube of Reynolds Wrap solves the entire problem, if you don't have a shovel or a scarf.

      People are smarter and more mobile than cameras in motorized beachballs.

      Show me the commandos who depend on disabled access, and I'll admit that motorized beachballs have the upper hand. Until then, this is just swedes lookin' for a grant.

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    3. Re:... what a joke ... by dbIII · · Score: 1
      People are smarter and more mobile than cameras in motorized beachballs.
      It's just a mobile camera that you can program to go where you like - I don't think these guys are really pretending it's anything else.
      I wouldn't leave beachball cameras in charge of an ice cream social.
      You don't leave machines in charge of anything. Fully automated plants still have someone to hit the big red button when something goes wrong - they may be a long distance away, but they still have control.
  81. Scratches? by statemachine · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't the security ball eventually scratch up its outer shell by rolling on it, eventually making any video useless? Maybe this is why it was rejected as a Mars rover.

  82. Video Game Comes To Life! by digrieze · · Score: 1

    Does this thing remind anyone else of Evil Otto from the 70s coinop BERSERK?????

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  83. Re:The Prisioner!!! by Mr+Z · · Score: 1

    A couple episodes were kinda corny filler, but that's because the original concept had only 7 or so key shows. The other 10 were largely filler.

    For its time, though, it was quite imaginative and thoroughly paranoid. The whole idea that The Village operated outside any given country's government ("Who's side are you on?") and all the 1984ish elements twisted to reflect Cold War technology development made for something more than just "off the wall." You have direct commentary on the effects of socialism on individuality, the growth of government for government's sake, and ongoing struggle to truly keep some things personal. I guess you could say it's a rather libertarian-angled program. (Or, should I say, programme?) All in a nearly comic-bookish scifi-ish trippy backdrop. :-)

    Some things get old in the series by the end, but it was designed from the beginning to run its course over a summer. If they were to try something like this 20 years later, it'd be a week or two long miniseries, with 7 or 8 total episodes.

    --Joe
  84. Re:The Prisioner!!! by h4rm0ny · · Score: 1


    Oh I know you tagged it as a spoiler, fair enough. It's just that I really liked the Prisoner and if someone else felt the same way I did, then it would be a shame if they couldn't enjoy it because they'd discovered it through the last episode first.

    Just for the record, I read that it ended the way that it did because the studio pulled funding for it, so Patrik McGoohan had to skip right to the end and compress everything into the final episode.

    And contrary to rest of humanity, I also enjoyed it, so I guess there must be someone else out there who would.

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  85. Sport Usage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Indiana its the Running of the Boulders

    Xtreme Bocci Ball

    The Phantasm Dash

  86. DARPA Grand Challenge by FleaPlus · · Score: 1

    It seems like one of these would do at least half-decently in the DARPA Grand Challenge if you upsized it and stuck on GPS receiver. It'd be able to roll over most obstacles. For those it couldn't roll over, it could use reactive techniques (coupled with IR sensors, cameras, or simple bump sensors) to find its way past.

  87. Watching a ball Roll around in snow... by yfarren · · Score: 1

    I cant believe I just spent a minute and 44 seconds watching a black ball roll around in the snow. There is something wrong with me.....

  88. Re:The Prisoner!!! by Harodotus · · Score: 1

    Interesting. Well even though you are the first one of my admittedly limited set of viewers who liked the final Prisoner episode, I am now of course intrigued by the debate.

    So of course now I have to go and watch the whole series sometime (including the last episode).

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  89. Re:The Prisioner!!! by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    Oh, good! MAKE me feel old, why don't you! :-P

  90. not necessary by TubeSteak · · Score: 1
    Maybe i'm just a distrustful bastard, or could care less about sharing, or (more likely) too lazy to care about installing another bit of software on my boxen.

    The Solution: Copy the friggin' link from their site!

    http://127.0.0.1:9115/http://rotundus.cjb.n et/rotundus_outdoor.mpg
    Hmmm.... what could I do with this?
    http://rotundus.cjb.net/rotundus_outdoor.mp g

    http://rotundus.cjb.net/rotundus_outdoor.mpg
    GOOD GOD IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

    All that said, I'd rather we just used the Coral Cache

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    1. Re:not necessary by Nahor · · Score: 1
      GOOD GOD IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
      The whole idea of Dijjer and BitTorrent is because the link does NOT work, it's SLASHDOTTED!
      But sure, wait until the crowd is gone and it will work again.
  91. And Now, Your Highness, ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... we shall discuss the location of your hidden Rebel base.

  92. TerraHawlks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but is it cool like the robots in Terrahawks? http://www.erinshore.com/terrahawks/images/number_ 13_large.jpg

  93. Wow, nobody else? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I first saw the pic and wondered if it can unfolds into a power armor suit and can double-bomb-jump. :)

  94. Re:The Prisioner!!! by objekt · · Score: 1

    Hey, I'm 40+ and I don't play favorites :P

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  95. spherical security robots?! sounds familiar... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    do they bore into the foreheads of intruders and pump their brains out?

  96. 6 Million Dollar Man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did we learn nothing from the episode of the 6 Million Dollar Man where Steve Austin has to fight the Venus probe?

  97. I've seen it, too by professorfalcon · · Score: 1

    I think I've seen it in action, too. Scary!

  98. Re:The Prisoner!!! by h4rm0ny · · Score: 1


    Be seeing you.

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