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Star Trek XI - What We Know
Jean Lucy writes "TwitchGuru has an article outlining in detail what is known about Star Trek XI. The film is in the early stages of production, led by J.J. Abrams (creator of Lost), and the movie will most likely be a prequel featuring Kirk and Spock in their younger years. No word of Matt Damon to play Kirk, though..." From the article: "As reported in early September, even former Star Trek actors are saying that CBS has kicked Rick Berman off the Trek bandwagon. This helps to allay the fears of those who say that 'they' will screw up this movie as 'they' have been doing for the past several years. As Anthony Pascale put it to me, however, 'There is no they any more. Everyone who has worked on Star Trek previously, from the top executives at the studio to the guy who sweeps the floor on-set, is gone. There's now a totally different production team running Star Trek. This is what people have been asking for now for years.'"
"TwitchGuru has an article outlining in detail"
It will, like the last 3-5 movies, suck.
to the guy who sweeps the floor on-set, is gone
Poor guy...
I thought Star Trek was owned by Paramount...where does CBS come in?
For those who can't wait until this movie comes out (or who may not want to think about it), there's an alternative in the meantime: upstart comics publisher IDW has announced that they'll be launching a new ST:TNG comics series in January (loosely tied to the series' 20th anniversary next year), with TOS and perhaps other Trek titles coming later. More details here.
http://alternatives.rzero.com/
They fired Steve? Bastards!
Just because they've replaced the production team doesn't mean it'll be any better. And if their best idea is to churn out a freaking prequel, I'm betting these people will be no better than who they're replacing.
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I don't know if I like the idea of a complete replacement of the behind the scenes Trek crew. Sure I'm glad that B&B are gone, but what about folks like Mike Okuda? The man behind the TNG techincal manual and the Star Trek Encyclopedia? Who is reported to have the entire continuity in his head?
I think that replacing the problem people is a good idea, but replacing some of the other key old hands who know Trek inside and out? This along with the report on NPR this morning that A TON of old Star Trek memrobelia, props, costumes, ship models, etc are being auctioned, has me worried.
Sure Trek was really going downhill fast since Voyager, but fix the problem, don't just toss it all away. We still want our Trek, not something new.
-"Those who fought today will die tommorow."-
I don't know if this is exactly what people have been clamoring for. Quite a few people, yeah, they needed to go to get some fresh blood in there. But to mix in some new people and still have have some people around who have a history with Trek and who understand what the franchise is about wouldn't be so bad. Hopefully.
I guess it could go either way, though. You could bring in all new people who also have an understanding as to what it's all about and have them really rejuvenate things. Or they could get people like that guy who directed Nemesis (Stuart Baird) who was so clueless about the franchise that he thought Geordi was an alien for awhile.
Cause odd/even principle will show that this movie will be terrible anyway so lets just get it over with.
CBS has kicked Rick Berman off the Trek bandwagon
Someone at CBS actually has a brain?
New production crew, why not new characters?
I don't like the idea of introducing new characters and a set in a Star Trek movie, but I dislike the idea of bringing back old characters in their early academy days even more.
What is this movie going to be about? Kirk spent the night with a girl when he should have been studying for his final test, Spock tries to warn Kirk, but Kirk doesn't listen. Now Kirk may not pass and become a officer. The future of the entire Alpha Quadrant is at stake, Kirk won't be able to fly the Enterprise around and seduce alien women!
Let's move beyond prequels let's even pass up the 24th century. We already know the past, lets see the future of the Federation of Planets in the 27th or beyond.
I wish on the Star Trek movies they could get away from the Federation and do a Klingon Movie about the Klingons, all in Klingon. But I don;t think that would fly. I did have one friend who wants it to be the Pirates of Pinzance in Klingon. Now that would never fly. It would be interesting though. And no my friend was not on drugs, she is weird enough with out them.
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there will be stars, and some sort of treking, but not wars (unless you want George Lucas involved).
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While I agree that I still want the spirit of Trek, I'm not convinced this is a bad idea. For a start, the continuity of Star Trek has been messed up beyond belief by Enterprise anyway. While I want things keeping generally the same, I'm not too bothered if maybe some planets get rearrange a little, or the time-line gets a clean-up.
Comparing to Marvel, I think their "Ultimate" universe restart was one of the best ideas they had had in a long time, as while the characters were basically the same, it helped sweep up a lot of rubbish which had built up. It is also a great help to those who haven't seen all the ST series. On one hand, I'd really like a series set after Voyager + DS9. On the other hand I accept you would either have to ignore much of what had gone on in DS9 in particular, or the storyline would be too complex for new viewers.
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...and as far as I'm concerned, if you kill Data you have to go.
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Enterprise failed because its just not that interesting to watch the "old" again. I don't want to see young Kirk.
Bring back any of the TNG/DS9/VOY actors that want a job; seed the environment with a couple familiar faces. Everybody loves Worf and Michael Dorn basically never turns down a chance to come back, get him. Get some new blood and tell a new tale. How about the crew of the Titan; heading up that task force near the neutral zone, that has some options and I'm sure Frakes needs a job. How about a period of recovery for the Alpha Quadrant post Dominion War; paralleling the WW2 Europe -> European Union evolution?
Maybe you like my ideas, maybe you don't. All I'm saying is seek out new life, and new civilizations; and don't try and cowardly go where we've already been a billion times. Unless you're trying to duplicate the success of Enterprise
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What? A prequel? That means outdated technology? How on earth do they expect Star Trek fans to enjoy a film where space ships can only go to warp 5?
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The creator of Lost? Wow, I'm sure this is going to be a cinematic masterpiece.
Fuck, a prequel? That's pretty damn sad. Didn't they learn anything from Enterprise?
You know what I want to see (it's there in the subject line so you shouldn't have to guess too hard). That's right, the friggin' Gorn. That was the coolest damn alien in the original series and he only got one episode. Stronger than hell but also very clever. They seem like they would be an interesting species to have as an enemy. There was a ST:TNG comic featuring the gorn that made them sound like just another warrior civilization like the klingons. What a cop-out. The way the gorn captain meticulously made traps for Kirk on that planet suggests to me that there's a lot more to them than head-bashing, adrenaline brutes. I'd wager that Star Trek fans would love to see more Gorn; why else would they have stuck that CGI abomination in the mirror universe episode of Enterprise if not for fan service?
The problem is that gorn makeup probably costs more than the usual bumpy-forehead-of-the-week aliens we're used to seeing in Star Trek so it's probably prohibitive for a TV show. So why not feature the gorn in a movie? This prequel idea sounds like a TV show. Don't waste the movie budget on special effects. Spend it on some interesting aliens.
A prequel featuring Kirk and Spock, even for just a short cameo, just screams of lack of ideas.
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Non-nerds usually consider The Voyage Home the best one (Non-Nerd: Is that the one with the whales in it??). But I agree, The Undiscovered Country was great. Kirk rules, Picard drools!
It was bad enough hearing Berman defend his crappy opening credits music choice for Enterprise on the first season DVD.. About time he got the boot.
I for one welcome the new trekkie overlords..
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You've got the story slightly muddled. Paramount dates back to the silent movie era. The CBS radio network was founded in 1927, partly with backing from Paramount.
The company that CBS created was Viacom itself. Viacom started out as CBS's syndication division, and got spun off in 1971. Somehow, Viacom became this massive media conglomerate, buying up dozens (literally!) of companies, including both Paramount and its former parent CBS. When it bought CBS it renamed itself CBS.
And that why's CBS owns Star Trek. I'm looking forward to the crossover episode with Lost in Space!
# Has a bigger spaceship, which can separate into two spaceships.
# Quotes Shakespeare all the time. Hell, even the ability to speak without pausing every two to three seconds puts him above Kirk
# Not only the president of the Enterprise, but also a client.
# Was turned into a robot. Robots are cool.
# Can say "Make it so" in 43 different inflections in 6 different languages.
# Isn't a walking sexual harassment suit. Hiring Picard instead of a skirt-chaser like Kirk is estimated to have saved the Federation 23 billion credits worth of legal fees and hush money paid to the mothers of illegitimate children spread out across hundreds of star systems.
# Has an annoying techno song compsed totally of his lines. Then someone took the time to make a music video by finding the scenes the lines were from, and editing them to fit the song. Crazy.
# Wasn't made an admiral. Kirk told him not to let starfleet promote him, and he didn't. Therfore Picard is better.
# Picard would never, ever tell his fans to GET A LIFE!
# Kirk was a leader of followers. That's the only reason he (almost) got away with it.
# Picard's worst episodes were originally written for Kirk.
# Picard discovers new life, new civilizations and strange new worlds, not discarded movie sets from 1950s period dramas.
# Picard can act out entire Shakespearean plays, not merely remember 5 or 6 lines.
# Picard can get his ship to orbit a planet in both directions.
# Picard would never ever date a shape-shifter who had previously morphed into a little girl.
# Picard doesn't need to wear glasses.
# Picard has so much backbone Starfleet designers had to cut out a section of his command chair for it all to fit in.
# Picard didn't have to reprogram a computer to give him better grades in order to graduate from Starfleet Academy.
# Picard has to contend with crap Starfleet Admirals. If he stole a starship only to have it get destroyed, he'd get vaporized, not given captaincy of a new one like in the easy old days.
# Picard commands his ship using the big head.
# Picard has a ship whose engines can take it.
# Three words: seven whole seasons.
# Picard never uses Grecian 2000.
# Picard has to contend with the "Prime Directive", a ruling imposed on him by Starfleet after they saw what a complete shambles resulted when they let Kirk meet new alien races.
# The only way Picard would allow Tribbles on his ship would be as hors d'oeuvres.
# Picard never met Joan Collins.
# Picard's bridge doesn't sound like an aviary.
# Picard participates in the odd archaeological dig. Kirk would make a suitable subject for one.
# One question: to which Captain would you entrust the safety of your daughter?
# Picard is far too cool to beam down to a planet, strip to his waist and wrestle with some guy in a rubber lizard suit. He lets his First Officer do all that for him.
# Picard never shot his best friend's body into space in a photon torpedo.
# Kirk probably thinks a concerto is a kind of ice cream dessert.
# Picard doesn't need hair, real or not.
# Picard's crew are too sophisticated to be taken over by a bunch of women in gogo boots and have the most intelligent person aboard controlled by a box that has less buttons than a Super Nintendo joypad.
Viacom didn't get swallowed back up by CBS, CBS got swallowed up by Viacom, which then split itself into two entities, the larger one took the CBS name and the other took over the Viacom name.
So it's sorta like the SBC/AT&T merger. SBC buys AT&T, then changes its name to AT&T, which to most consumers makes it look like AT&T actually swallowed up SBC. Only here the result is two smaller companies instead of a single larger combined entity.
One sticking point here though, according to the Viacom article, Viacom holds Paramount's movie studio, CBS only has the television side of Paramount.
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I could see a Klingon movie in Klingon being pretty nifty. I mean hell, even Shakespeare sounds best in its original Klingon.
Lets see here, there are rope traps in the hallway.
half of the crew is the enemy.
there is a lot of sexual homosexual hermaphoditic and beastial sexual tension going around.
you have two watch 10 movies just to know what is going on.
oh yea and their trapped in an alternate univers that they cant get out of.
Thanks god we are now having all that SCI-Fi nonsense aside and working on what matters:
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These people are willing to bring peace to all their universe!
Dump away all those hippies!
And let's EXTERMINATE every terrorist that might still be daring to boldly go, where this new generation is!
Rwe obliged 2 save our future by choosing:O3 hole-greenhouse effect instead of accepting everydays gossip-nonsense chat?
I agree. There are a lot of people who were responsible for the look and feel of Star Trek, when only a few executive producers and writers screwed it up. Hopefully the summary is just hyperbole, the article itself doesn't say "everyone" was fired.
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*another* prequel? They never learn.
So Kirk will be 12 and Spock will be 100 and McCoy will *still* be 90 and Uhura will not have developed yet.
It will die quickly.
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# Picard was also Magneto (the head of the evil Mutants). ;) in his shop (sorry) ship.
# He only admited Kirk's beloved nurse to work as a computer voice
Rwe obliged 2 save our future by choosing:O3 hole-greenhouse effect instead of accepting everydays gossip-nonsense chat?
Q could wipe out the entire Enterprise timeline. Then we could all feel good about ignoring it
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The enterprise gets diverted from its course by a mysterious electromagnetic beam which attracts the ship to a habitable planet. This beam breaks the ship into three separate parts, which crash into different parts of the planet. Kirk, Spock, and the rest of the crew are stranded on the planet, where they fight a fog-like creature, some polar bears, and an alien race known as "The Others".
The movie will be good as long as William Shatner DOES NOT make a cameo.
Kirk and Spock were young men with dreams of trvavelling the universe. As they tweaked the knobs on their prototype spacecraft, Kirk let out a sigh and said "Is it getting hot in here, Spock?" The nubile, yet distinguished young Vulcan replied "My temperature sensor does indeed indicate much wamrth and humidity." Kirk nodded coyly to Spock as he peeled off his lycra bodysuit. "That seems like a logical thing to do," noted Spock as he proceeded to do likewise, revealing his silky-skinned chest. Striking up a conversational mood, Spock enquired "What is this thing you humans call fisting? Is it a medical procedure?" Kirk winked and said "It's the way we calibrate the Warp Drive." Unaware of Kirk's subtext, Spock replied "Most interesting. Would you care to demonstrate these techniques in the interest of knowledge?" Kirk tried to subdue his enthusiasm. "Oh damn, I dropped my wrench. Could you bend over and pick it up for me?" Kirk could no longer control himself. "Engage! Engage like a pig!" he cried, as he set his thrusters to full.
... and then they built the supercollider.
It's the same problem that can befall any prequel: Inconsistent production values! Sure, the episodes from the original series represented the state of the art for the 1960's (and cost Desilu a ton to produce each episode). And sure, the original series-based movies used movie-making technology from the 1980's/1990's...but how do you make a new film that looks like it belongs in the original series star trek universe but still incorporates modern production values? Seems tricky.
It's just like in the Star Wars prequels, where due to advances in special effects and costuming, the newer Star Wars movies (episodes I-III) look far more modern even though they're meant to be prequels.
The best part of the Star Wars saga ran down Princess Leia's leg "ask Han Solo" way back in 1977 when it was fresh.
Just uh, btw, Picard = Patrick Stewart = Prof. X. Ian McKellan, who played Magneto, was (afaik) never in any star trek production.
# Picard's adventures spun off three new series, each longer than Kirk's run. Kirk only inspired a one-seasoned cartoon, and six movies.
# Kirk's First Officer played some form of Vulcan harp, an instrument that makes the trombone look like just about the most macho thing this side of Kirk's toupee.
# How many innocent yellow-shirted security officers have been killed by crazed aliens who had taken pot shots at them in the mistaken belief that they were actually shooting at Kirk?
# Kirk commands his ship as if he's driving a tractor across an Iowa wheat field.
# When Picard was 37, he was the Captain of the lowly Stargazer. Starfleet soon learned the value of "progressive experience" having witnessed the disastrous consequences of letting someone take charge of a real ship when their previous vehicular experience extended only as far as driving a tractor across an Iowa wheat field.
# If Kirk had a doctor like Beverly Crusher, Starfleet would have to relocate the command chair in sickbay.
# If Kirk was captain when Tasha Yar died, he would have tried to do her corpse.
# Picard has more than one token black person on his crew.
# Picard isn't afraid to go places without a security team.
# Picard doesn't wear pansy sailor-boy markings on his cuffs.
# Picard has shuttlecraft that can travel faster than Kirk's ship.
# Picard would never have said "He's had too much LDS".
# Picard never has to say stupid things like, "I...am a Gr'up!" in front of young teenage girls who fancy him.
# Picard was actually in his own show's pilot episode.
# Picard never visits planets that look suspiciously like a Californian desert, except for that time he met Kirk.
# Picard won't spend his retirement writing science fiction books or making cameo appearances in Zemeckis & Zemeckis films.
# Picard was never demoted to a lieutenant in the L.A. Police Department.
# Picard is too slim to require a Kellogg's All Bran diet, and too dignified to turn up in an ad for such things.
# Picard's doctor doesn't have to keep reminding him what her job is.
# Picard doesn't have to operate his turbo lifts using hand pumps.
# Picard's main viewer is a 200 inch hi-definition TV with Nicam and Pro-Logic surround-sound.
# Picard's ego wouldn't demand $7 million for a 10 minute appearance in a movie.
# Picard can spend more than 15 minutes on a planet before being shot at or locked up.
# Picard's ship was never taken over by a door-to-door salesman.
# If the Borg had assimilated Kirk, they wouldn't have learned anything.
# Picard's First Officer eats the things that attack Kirk in alien forests.
# Picard would never blow up his own ship.
# Imagine you have to impose your authority: "This is Captain Jean Luc Picard of the Federation Starship Enterprise." Now introduce yourself as "James Tiberius Kirk, but you can call me Jim." See the difference?
# If Q had met Kirk instead of Picard he would have destroyed humanity before Kirk got two words out.
# Who ever heard of the Patrick Stewart foundation?
# One word: Intelligence.
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No, Picard was Professor X.
Also:
# Picard - Won the Academy marathon as a freshman. Kirk - A stack of books with legs.
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Picard was Professor X, not Magneto.
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Actually, I'd like to see a down and dirty script featuring the shadowy Section 31 and their role in one (or a few) of the most important moments in ST history. Pick a moment...any moment. I don't care. I just want to see something other than the warm-fuzzy-utopian crappola.
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you're extremely brave to post the URL to THAT myspace page. I have seen people on Slashdot hanged, drawn and quartered for much less.
And here I thought it was Scruffy.
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Come on, Roddenberry ruined Star Trek on his own plenty of times, you don't need to blame Berman for everything. Star Trek's success was always that they managed to get decent writers to write the episodes. The stuff Roddenberry was responsible for was occasionally good but frequently bad too.
This rumor has been around for years about this idea for a film, and has been explicitly DEBUNKED as being the plot of the next film. So quit rehashing this garbage.
Or more accurately, no more shitty prequels or sequels. I want good quality movies and acting, damn it!
I think this goes for both Star Trek and Star Wars.
Lets be more specific though...no more prequels with the original cast of characters. It introduces too many continuity errors and other 'suspension of disbelief' problems. That means that prequels, if you have to make them, should be set in the distant past, so that any errors can be accounted for in the movie as *actual plot twists* as some sort of lost history.
Sequels are easier, since no one knows what happens yet. Except that in both the Star Trek and Star Wars Universe, where there have been tons of books outlining the franchise history, there is tons of *future history* and *past history* which has to be dealt with. The real fans view a lot of books as canon, and thus get upset, when Exar Khun isn't mentioned at all in the Star Wars prequels.
Unfortunately, studio execs can't seem to get either prequels or sequels right. Or movies in general. They just care about money.
People like that should be the first against the wall.
Seriously.
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On one hand, I'd really like a series set after Voyager + DS9. On the other hand I accept you would either have to ignore much of what had gone on in DS9 in particular, or the storyline would be too complex for new viewers.
I think you confused Voyager for DS9. The aftermath of a war would make a good story, and if it is properly executed, you can entice new viewers to the series while tying it into past continuity. It can even be used to increase sales of DS9 on DVD.
Think about it. The setting is a Federation gearing down from a war footing and getting back to its mission of peaceful exploration. The shipyards are full of ships being repaired, completed, or prepared for a return to mothballs, and much of the Federation's resources are being poured into the rebuilding of Cardassia. Your officers and crew were forged in the crucible of war and don't have the polished diplomatic training of Picard. There is an interesting character development angle, especially with the use of metaplot. Watch as the Captain, against the advice of the first officer, creates a hostile relationship with a small power in unexplored territory.
Now Voyager, on the other hand, should be mostly forgotten. Keep the idea that the ship was lost in the Delta Quadrant, but forget most of that series.
On second though...I don't think that anyone at Paramount could properly execute a series set in the aftermath of DS9. Maybe we are better off forgetting it.
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There was a very funerary feeling about the last few minutes of that film for me. The meeting with the Vulcans seemed as though it was meant as one last look at what Trek was about, and I don't think any studio executive can be expected to know what I'm talking about there, either.
Although if they'd wanted to portray it in a humorous manner, (although it would have clashed with the existing vibe at the end of the film, as I said) as the Enterprise left Earth at the end of First Contact it would have been appropriate I think to have a spacebound shark at the bottom of the screen, with the Enterprise entering warp above it.
Star Trek is dead. Let it rest in peace.
With Admiral Janeway at the Helm. Activate the Auto-seperation Sequence. Beep beep, bip bip bip??? We can have Andy Dick back as the EMH Mark II! Let's go forward not backard and have some fun at the same time.
I think it is a good thing. With any franchise, "continuity" or "canon" enhances the enjoyment only up to a certain point. After a while, the writers start having to ditch good stories because they would mess up the continuity too much. At that point the franchise needs to be rebooted.
This is not necessarily bad - look at the new version of "Battlestar: Galactica". Enough homage for fans of the original series, but a totally different approach to the original concept. (And Richard Hatch is far better utilized as Tom Zarek than he ever could have been as an ageing Apollo!).
What Trek needs is a new crew that has a reverence for the TOS->Enterprise universe, but can start with a fresh slate.
expensive to animate. eats up story time. gives Riker a chance to prove he's more macho than a computer. manual docking of ships this size by sight alone? give me a break.
# Picard has to contend with the "Prime Directive", a ruling imposed on him by Starfleet after they saw what a complete shambles resulted when they let Kirk meet new alien races.
Picard simply lucks out. meaning the writers give him a convenient escape route from the artificial dilemma they have created. Picard is never more insufferably santimonius than when invoking the prime directive. at least Kirk knew bull---- when he sees it.
# Picard's bridge doesn't sound like an aviary.
no. but on both ships, one sneeze, a slip of the hand, and you've jettisoned a pod or launched a photon torpedo. where are the physical interlocks, the safety mechanisms, to protect any of these systems?
That entire problem with Star Trek has and will continue to be creativity. TOS was very original. TNG was a comlete 180 from TOS. DS9 was just more TNG. Voyager was just more TNG. Enterprise was just more TNG. They either need to set a story in the past or way in the future. Ditch all the flashy LCD screens. Go with holo-displays or organic walls that can display any type of wall texture or video. Something, anything that is different. Gene had the vision for not just one series but for two. I want to see a comletely differently interior design/architecture scheme. I want to see different fashion. I want to see different ways of doing things. We need as big a jump from TOS to TNG from TNG to what ever comes next.
I say set the next story 60 years in the future. Have the Vulcans break away from the Federation to pursue their own logical ideas. Have the Klingons a now extinct race. The Romulans haven't been heard from in 30 years. The Ferengi have been accepted into the Federation. The Borg have become completely independent from the Collective, yet they continue to assimiliate. Make them evangelicals of a better way of life. You know, just shake everything up. Make it completely foriegn from the Star Trek we have come to know, but also have it link back to the prior series.
I'm actually in New York this week attending the Star Trek auction at Christies and I spoke with Mike Okuda and his wife Denise. Both of them are onboard for the next movie. They are also working on the remastering of the original series right now too. // Sean
I'm a huge fan, but I think a new storyline/universe altogether, would be a much better idea -- not necessarily for a movie, but for a series. I think Sci/Fi's Battlestar Galactica is the best example of what I'm thinking of. Perhaps something borrowed from Isaac Asimov, or Arthur C. Clarke. A Sci/Fi drama about human/robot interactions in the vein of Asimov's Robot novels, perhaps. Many "star-trek-like" series have done ok, and some not-so-well, like babylon, or andromeda, or firefly. what is it about that star-trek formula? maybe it's all the human-centrism...feel-goodism...nerds-are-coolism.
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I'm sorry Matt, we just didn't have time to slot you in the for the role of Kirk, could you come back tomorrow?
Please, please, please, if any Star Trek people who are still involved in the franchise read this, I want a TV series that picks up after the end of DS9, or Voyager if you must. A wonderful universe had been built, great factions, tension, political upheaval and technology. I don't care what happened before, I want to see the universe continue.
Fuck yeah! I like it.
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So Enterprise will crash on a mysterious island and no one will know what is going on for the first hour of the show. I will have left before the second half because I just can't buy invisible monsters. Predator notwithstanding.
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# Picard never shot his best friend's body into space in a photon torpedo.
Picard didn't have any friends; just a bunch of subordinates whom he talked to every once in a while when he didn't feel like staying in his room watching chick flicks in that girlie robe they made his wear.
I have to grudgingly admit the guy is better than Berman and Braga. Basically because they were about the worst in the business. I think the Olsen Twins would have made better trek than those guys. At least appeal more to the youth market.
But if you've watched Alias or Lost, you have an idea where this is headed. The franchise needed a Terry Gilliam or a James Cameron. Or for god sakes, get Peter Jackson. He'd be bankable. Fuck it. Get me John Carpenter, or Edgar Wright, or fucking Dan O'Bannon before you bring me "J.J."... that motherfucker will reveal that Kirk killed Spock's mother, and McCoy is Spock's cousin. That's his idea of a "twist." I don't think he's going to be taking any interesting creative risks.
Oh well. At least it's not Joss Whedon.
Whatever happened to Nicholas Meyer anyway? They lose his phone number or something?
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# Picard was actually in his own show's pilot episode.
...where he managed to parlay a harshly worded threat into a trial because he wanted to lecture Q instead of trying to figure out what he was going on about.
Pardon any inaccuracies, I'm most of the way through TOS, but I've only seen the first season of TNG.
And yes, I know Spock has taken out "Klingons". But they were not Klingons, they were just evil humans with funny eyebrows, evil goatees, and chain mail. Worf does not need chain mail.
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#Kirk may have beaten up a Klingon with his bare hands, but Picard has the balls to stand in the middle of an entire roomful of Klingons and ARGUE with them!
bitch all you want about the recent star trek movies... but they still can't compare to the class of suckage that was ST:V.
but trek should go forward, not backwards. just from a logistics standpoint, how will they construct "technology" that looks older than TOS? card board & duct tape? with a shuttle pod made from a radio flyer?
ds9 was excellent. sisko & kira were the best "one-two punch" of any of the series. avery brooks ("hawk" from the spenser:for hire tv series) fit the actor to the role (of captain) better than any of the others, even patrick stewart. its premiere, movie-length episode (emissary), surpassed anything the franchise has put in theatres (with the exception, perhaps, of ST:IV).
as deep space nine was different in that it was focused on a space station instead of a space ship; voyager also differed in that there was no "federation" to call for backup; and like ds9, it was also an excellent series. imho, these were the best two series in the franchise -- the ones that weren't just TOS-redux.
enterprise had potential, but the TPTB mukked everything up: starting with dropping 'star trek' from the title and progressing through each and every storyline inconsistency... and bacula was a huge disappointment, imho, not even coming close to fitting the role of a star trek captain.
as far as a starfleet academy-based "prequel" goes.... spock graduated around the time that kirk entered the academy (both ocurring in 2050). so if the premise is their time together at the academy, it'll be an even shorter series than enterprise was, or a single movie tied around one specific event they both participated in. the novel 'aftershock' is about the only existing thing to draw from, and if 'the crew' was busy with that plotline during kirk's first acadamy year, that doesn't leave much time to "create" something new to squeeze into the timeline for cadets spock & kirk to get mixed up with.
mccoy and ulhura where in the academy around the same time as kirk (they were a year ahead of him).. so that *might* work. no sulu or checkov though, as they didn't start at the academy until several years after kirk graduated. also keep in mind that kirk entered the academy at age 17, so you'd have to go A LOT younger and find some (early) 20-something actor with no talent to play the role. reference: http://pjfarmer.com/woldnewton/Startrek.htm
as much as i'd rather see trek move forward, if they go backwards.. the most interesting part of enterprise (even if its delivery wasn't that great either) was the retelling of carbon creek in episode 2 of the second season (originally in a trek novel from the late 80's or so, iirc). a movie or series based upon the vulcan's life on earth in the 1950's would be a hoot. eliminates all ties to the future and "known" trek universe (less chance of contaminating the 'timeline', so-to-speak). so in my book, this would be the next best thing to just starting after ds9 or voyager.
For a start, the continuity of Star Trek has been messed up beyond belief by Enterprise anyway.
Meh - I'd accept a story that says "Enterprise" was merely a bad joke that Q played on the population of Earth in the 21st century.
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You just described the original pilot episode, which is technically canon, as it was re-shown in the series proper. Spock served under Captain Pike before he served under Captain Kirk. Which also makes a prequel with both Kirk and Spock just that much more annoying.
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When faced with the following two options:
A. Destroy the borg collective by implanting a trojan horse computer virus into a displaced borg android.
B. Respect the "individual" rights of Hugh Borg and let him decide his own future.
KIRK WOULD NOT have chosen option B.
A walking lizard-man who's smart. That's it.
Star Wars and Trek both have obvious flaws. The weapons are always fun -- in Star Wars we have the laser that magically stops just far enough out to make a sword, and the laser that shoots a bolt of laser light that travels slowly enough for a human to dodge. In Trek, you have individual implausible episodes -- if you can dodge a phaser blast because you're supposedly moving so fast, how can you see anything if the phaser moves at the speed of light? How does a phaser set to stun do exactly enough damage to knock someone out, but set to kill, it somehow magically figures out where a person is, and vaporises just the person, not the ground under them?
Anyway, this could've been a much longer rant, but the point is: Ok, maybe the Gorn was cool-looking, but why even bother to mention bumpy-forehead-of-the-week if your solution is the Gorn? He's biped, with two arms, he's reptillian, with insectoid eyes -- basically, he's just stitched together from a few things we know of on Earth. He's hardly something that would've evolved completely independently -- we have stranger life-forms on Earth anyway.
Gorn may be fan service, but he's hardly an interesting alien. You want an interesting alien, look at some of the TOS energy beings, or maybe the silicon-based creature. But one thing Star Wars got at least somewhat closer to right -- most aliens look much more interesting than the Gorn, even in the original Star Wars.
As for Gorn being somehow better than Klingons, I think Worf is at least as intelligent as the Gorn, and I can't say who would win a fair fight. Besides, the Gorn was trapping Kirk -- that's not saying much. If it was Riker down on that planet, it might be a different story.
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I think Enterprise vs Death Star was settled long ago. Just for the record:
The original Death Star did not have any kind of energy shield. I've also never seen the Death Star go faster than light, although I presume it must, in order to travel from planet to planet -- regardless, anything faster than light in Star Wars must enter hyperspace to do so, which is difficult, takes a lot of calculations and preparation.
The Enterprise can go Warp 8 easily, and actually be maneuverable at that speed. If Luke can fly fast enough in his X-Wing to be a problem for the Death Star's turbolaser turrets, the Enterprise should be able to easily dodge anything the Death Star can throw at it, including the superlaser and TIE fighters. But they don't have to fly along a narrow trench and use the Force to aim a pair of proton torpedoes down an exhaust shaft. They can simply orbit at warp 2 or 3 so as to avoid blaster fire, just longe nough to beam over a small chunk of antimatter from the warp drives, assuming they have any power left. And when antimatter and matter collide...
They don't need to beam any significant amount over, either. They should be more than close enough to hit some critical systems -- and they don't need many bothans to die to give them a technical schematic, they can simply scan it and have Spock figure out where to aim it. If they can set off a chain reaction, it should give them more than enough time to warp away, enable shields, and watch the fireworks.
Now, the Force could possibly present a problem here, but assuming it is actually Enterprise vs Death Star, there aren't likely to be any force sensitive people on board the Enterprise for Vader to influence. It would probably be tricky to aim a mind trick from that far away, but even if he could, the crew of the Enterprise has handled various forms of mind control before. And the whole thing will likely be over before Vader can so much as figure out that the Captain's name is James T. Kirk.
Supposing that a Jedi (or dark Jedi, or Sith) could get on board the Enterprise, of course, it becomes an entirely different story. The crew of the Enterprise has exactly as much hand-to-hand combat training as Austin Powers: "Judo...CHOP!" Annakin Skywalker, once actually aboard, could slice through half the crew before Red Alert sounded, and the other half before Uhura could send a distress call. The Vulcan Nerve Pinch requires that you actually manage to touch the enemy's shoulder, and I somehow think Spock would have trouble doing it once Annakin sliced off his hands.
No, the things that have yet to be determined is the paradox of a battle between the Red Shirts, who always die a moment after appearing, and the Stormtroopers, who can't hit the broad side of a planet. There are exceptions, though -- Stormtroopers can hit often enough to tragically wound someone important, and Scotty, as Someone Important, is guaranteed to not die, even though he's a red shirt. Thus, I think Scotty would be tragically wounded, but would win the fight and then go on to be treated back to health by McCoy.
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Bah, better to forget the rest of the series. Enterprise was fun and T'Pol was hot.
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Not really. they dont exist. :)
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Shatner for the win.
"# Picard never visits planets that look suspiciously like a Californian desert, except for that time he met Kirk."
# When Picard met Kirk, only one of the survived.
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Spock actually said, more or less, that the ships had no 'ship to ship visual communication', which implies that they couldn't see each other while talking. Though it's interesting that Lt. Stiles, the bigoted navigator, knew what a Romulan ship looked like, but Captain Kirk did not.
I haven't watched too many episodes of 'Enterprise', so I'm not the best judge, but the few episodes I've seen show that their knowledge of Vulcan customs was quite advanced, while it's clear that in the original series, Spock was somewhat reluctant to showcase these customs and the crew seemed like they were finding out about these things for the first time. So the writers of 'Enterprise' obviously have bent a few rules there.
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Erase Enterprise from the continuity. Entirely, completely, totally.
Set this series 2155, shortly after a Romulan force destroyed an Earth exploration vessel that they believed was an invasion force, igniting the Earth-Romulan War. The series runs 26 episodes a year -- 13 set on the United Earth Space Probe Agency ship Intrepid, 13 are set on the Imperial Romulan Warbird Indomitable. Time passes one year per season, with a peace treaty establishing the Neutral Zone occuring in the sixth season after the fifth-season-ending Battle of Charon.
The Intrepid is all-human in crew; the Federation does not yet exist, and no nonhumans are trusted to serve in the military. And this is a military ship, part of the new Star Fleet formed to defend Earth. In the show's sixth and seventh seasons, the crew moves from patrolling the Romulan border to new, science-and-diplomacy tasks culminating in the formation of the Federation at the end of season seven.
The Indomitable is a mix of Romulans and Remans. The Remans are full and equal members of the crew, and the head of the Empire is indeed an Empress, though a semiconstitutional monarch, for the first five seasons. The evolution of the Empire to being Praetor-headed and Reman-supressing happens in the wake of the Romulan defeat at the Battle of Cheron, as a military coup places a Reman-blaming admiral in charge, power being consolidated in the hands of this dictator at the end of season seven.
The two crews, of course, never meet face to face, because it's established in TOS that no one in the Federation knows what a Romulan looks like. There is still room, of course, for humans to wind up meeting the Romulans and never getting the opportunity to report back to Earth . . . and the two ships, of course, will clash in several encounters during the series.
I've been a Star Trek fan all my life and don't think there has been a series released that I've not watched at least twice. But I was so disgusted with the hatchet job they did at the end of Enterprise that it turned me off to the whole franchise. Unless this latest film turns out to be a miracle of wit, cunning and WOW, I doubt very much if I'll even give it the time of day.
Enterprise started of weak, and I've never been a fan of Scott Bakula. But it did get better, a lot better, and by the end I was well and truly hooked. I'll never forgive them for what they did to that series. It was disgusting. I'll never go back to that, especially now that BSG has shown us how it should be done!
The timeline with (limited) crossover between TNG, DS9 and VOY was great and as a set of series they lasted throughout my teen geek years. But for a franchise to be both Trek and New they need to at least do another TNG and add 70+ years to the "current" stardate again, worked like a charm last time around.
If you don't risk failure you don't risk success.
Star Trek, as its title theme says, is about boldly going where no one has gone before.
Picard claims at one TNG episode that "at his time, only 19% of the galaxy is mapped".
Therefore, here is your chance CBS: explore the rest of the galaxy! show us new interesting astronomical observations and physics, new societies and social structures, new characters and new technology, new ships and new enemies.
The only limitation is YOUR imagination, CBS, and nothing more!
By the way, if the new series was in the early 24th century, you could easily bring back the old characters as guests, just like you did in TNG with the TOS crew. It would be interesting to see the TNG crew, Spock and even the original Kirk as old people for one or two episodes.
Im glad to see that Star Trek is leading the way be recycling old ideas as much as possible, new ideas cost a lot of coffee and drawings, sets, aliens etc. SAVE THE WORLD, USE PREQUELS!!! They are trying to just "recreate" the glory days of tng or the original, rather than invent something really new, Havent they tried that already. Wasnt thier some show with the chinese babe? Prequels SUCK, you know nothing major is going to happen because you already know the end of the story, Try reading he last chapter of a book first, ITS A FLAWED IDEA! And dont get me start on bringing in the guy from lost, I mean nothing actually happens in lost, thats the opposite of what a new star trek needs, and please no more every ship needs an alien/robot deal, rewrite the dynamic; break the rules etc. It needs to lead and not follow! Bring some new ideas to the table guys and you shall have a new TNG
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Not only that, but Picard has challenged a Klingon to one-on-one combat in one episode (when he told a Klingon he was welcome to challenge the assumption that a Starfleet officer would not fight). He also took on three Norsicons and received a blade through the heart.
The problem with mixing the characters/ships from different series is that they have their own logic that alters the premise for both stories. Another series to consider is Star Blazers, an anime series from the 1970s. In one story I read, the Enterprise encounters the Argo (the main ship from Star Blazers). The Enterprise does massive damage to the Argo, then the Argo fires the Wave Motion Gun. The Enterprise is completely destroyed and the Argo travels on. You could get the same result by combining many series.
Just let Trek rest in peace, we have BSG now.
The current prequel idea has Hollywood screwup written all over it. Why don't they buy the rights to "Starship Exeter" and do a big screen/big budget version of that? Now you've got a whole new story line set in a familiar ST era following all the known ST rules.
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That this is *not* what people have been asking for for years, just a different kind of crap. Who the hell wants to see "kirk the early years" - good grief.
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WTF??
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I read the entire article and to me I can sum it up saying "yeah this may happen, but we don't know yet. It might be about this, but I don't know yet"
The script wasn't even written yet!! For crying out loud! Are we so desperate to see another Star Trek movie that we'll speculate on everything? And GAWD I hope they don't really do the "a look back in the yonger days of..." I am so sick of seeing that cliché!
Instead, bring us back to the timeline where Voyager left off. The Romulans have been out of the picture for too long, write a good script with them in it! Anything but "Kirk, the younger years"... PLEASE! How many times do we need to kill him off?
It's not the destination that matters, but rather the journey.
Now the enterprise computers are probably more powerful than those on the X-wing fighters so they may be able to make better calculations to guide their torpedoes in so they have a pretty good chance at destroying the death star. But its not a forgone conclusion.
> # Picard won't spend his retirement writing science fiction books or making cameo appearances in Zemeckis & Zemeckis films.
Um, what Zemeckis movie did Shatner cameo in? Maybe you meant "Zucker & Zucker" although if you meant that in reference to Airplane 2 you'd still be wrong, the Zuckers didn't do that one.
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# Has an annoying techno song compsed totally of his lines. Then someone took the time to make a music video by finding the scenes the lines were from, and editing them to fit the song. Crazy.
Video Didn't believe it until I saw it.
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Call me nitpicky, but... I have to take exception with the erroneous "in production" statement in the linked article (and the "in the early stages of production" description in Lucy's post). "In production" means actually filming ("early stages of" could maybe be stretched to mean casting and set construction), but as of now there isn't even a completed (much less approved) script - not to mention a budget, cast, crew, sets or even a greenlight from the studio. STXI is more (_most_) accurately described as "in active development."
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Those star wars blasters are not lasers, and dont move at the speed of light. The phasers are probably not lasers too, it could be something that only affects organic matter or something.
No, Berman and Braga (who had writing credits on most of the Enterprise episodes) have no clue what consistency means. Unless it's consistently stupid. They made a "new trek" that was exactly the same as the other shows, but worse. That show is still too painfully bad to watch. The only good episodes in the series were in the final season, but don't watch the series finale, it was written by Berman and Braga.
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> "As reported in early September, even former Star Trek actors are saying that CBS has kicked Rick
> Berman off the Trek bandwagon. This helps to allay the fears of those who say that 'they' will
> screw up this movie as 'they' have been doing for the past several years. As Anthony Pascale put
> it to me, however, 'There is no they any more. Everyone who has worked on Star Trek previously,
> from the top executives at the studio to the guy who sweeps the floor on-set, is gone. There's
> now a totally different production team running Star Trek. This is what people have been asking
> for now for years.'"
"...although," he continued, "nobody's been asking for 'young Kirk' 'for years', so I really don't know why half their head is still up their @$$."
Ahh, yes, "the younger years", that member of the mystical, aeuteur-wannabe, executive producer-driven triumvirate of craptastic ideas, along with "the girls all get up and do a dance to a Motown tune" and "it must have a giant mechanical spider in it!"
At least Batmans and Supermans have been able to dodge "make it more campy" for the last 30 years.
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
I don't think Jonathon Frakes WANTS a job. He's married to Genie Francis.
Star Trek occurred when she was in control of DesiLu. Very smart business women. She wasnt a rabid fan, but did approve a second pilot when the first stalled. You see DesiLu credits on the refurbished STTOS now back TV.
)I think they use the same goofy studio band on the sound track as I Love Lucy.)
Remember that Andromeda was Roddenberry's vision of the Trek universe. The Andromeda was the last ship in the Federation. All the ideas are always, go back, go forward, seperate area of an existing timeline, but this is the winner. Far in the future, different set of technologies, different agendas. I would have been all about Andromeda if it was done this way.
Too bad its always about the money and never the artist creativity. ***COUGH *** SG-1 ***COUGH****FARSCAPE ****CO... screw it, Firefly, Sliders, Futurama, The Sci-Fi network, Star Wars, you know, anything that's not a book.
Lance has similar goofy facial expressions as Spock, including the strange eyebrows.
"command line interfaces will be commonplace."
Perhaps that's a good solution for zero G situations. It's got to be easier to type on a keyboard than to nudge around a mouse floating in the air.....
That's all true. Very few people were willing to take a chance on sci-fi in those days. She green-lit the series despite the risk and the cost (180-200k an episode was not chump change in those days). Without her, there very likely would have been no Star Trek at all, and possibly even no Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, and so on.
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Plotting a course takes the Enterprise crew about 2 an a half seconds. It can take a minute or two for Han or Chewie.
The Picard manouever is actually quite adequate. Warp in, beam over the antimatter, warp out. It just seems likely that they wouldn't have to stop at all.
Also, the Enterprise seems to have a full range of sublight speed. Star Wars ships definitely have one top speed for sublight, and one for light speed. Thus, while the TIEs are easily more maneuverable, the Enterprise is simply faster.
And all this is ignoring the question of how much turbolaser fire the Enterprise's shields can take, or whether they can effectively do "fair" combat. They could easily be within transport range and phaser range but well out of range of the turbolasers, and the phasers should be more than a match for the TIE fighters, seeing as they actually move at light speed and have quite a range, meaning by the time a TIE would get close enough, he'd likely already be destroyed.
There is also the question of just how much damage the Enterprise's phasers and torpedoes (a different kind of torpedo) could do to the Death Star directly. I think this is what most people think of when they call this a debate. But here, assuming the Enterprise can withstand 10 seconds or so of turbolaser fire, they simply have to move in and phaser/torpedo out any turrets in their area -- assuming they need to get that close -- and then proceed with the beaming over of the antimatter.
However, I didn't want to go there, because considering Kirk runs his ship like an Iowa tractor, it seems unlikely that he or his crew would have fast enough reflexes to do any of this, or that any of them would be smart enough to program the computer to do it for them. Also, it's not really relevant -- no TIE is going to get close enough in the 3-5 seconds it would take to beam over the antimatter, plot the course, and warp back out, and I seriously doubt they would have to get within range of the turbolasers if they can beam through miles of atmosphere and miles of solid rock in the same trip. Assuming a TIE did, worst that happens is a little bit of damage (one pass won't do a lot), which will be repaired by the next episode.
There is also the argument that the Enterprise still exists, after ten seasons, while the Death Star has been blown up at least twice now, once before it was even finished. Of course, I don't think it's the same Enterprise for TNG as it is for TOS, but I do think the Enterprise stood up to more than just a few rebels with a mysterious force. That said, Vader was never taken hostage, and was at least faithful to Padme before he went completely psychotic.
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Yes, it's obvious that they don't move at the speed of light. However, it's also obvious that George Lucas didn't have a clue, or felt like completely ignoring the laws of physics. They are still called "turbolasers", and "lightsaber" certainly suggests that it's made of light, laser or not -- and let's not forget the crystals used to focus the energy. There are many things that simply don't make sense here in that context -- light does not collide, so lightsabers couldn't block a blaster bolt or another lightsaber; light moves at the speed of light; light does not shine at full intensity for about a meter before stopping for no apparent reason. Anything to the contrary is people retconning Star Wars to attempt to make it match some laws of physics, because lightsabers are cool.
I'll admit one thing: Lightsabers are cool, and I wish they could actually exist.
As for phasers, they do affect things other than organic matter. We've seen phasers kill robots, temples, enemy ships, and other inanimate objects, not to mention cut slowly through a door in the same way as a lightsaber would. It seems like a phaser simply vaporises whatever it's convenient to think of as a single, solid object, and if that doesn't work, they act as real lasers should. The same can be said of transporters. And this, too, suffers the same pathetic attempts to make a space opera -- admittedly a cool-looking one -- at least plausible in physical reality.
Really, you should start by actually understanding what technology and physics we know of which are close to what you want to create. Try to make it realistic before you start. Otherwise, you're going to have the same stupid mistakes, like hearing explosions in space, and people will either willfully ignore them (because they enjoy the show) or attempt to explain them away in some strange and complex way. In fact, almost any attempt to explain them scientifically is going to ruin whatever made them cool in the first place -- remember the Force? One word: midichlorians.
And then there are the unintended consequences. For instance, if midichlorians are all it takes, why don't the Jedi have a human breeding program, similar to the Bene Gesserit? Why don't the Jedi attempt genetic engineering, or find a way to inject large amounts of midichlorians into someone who isn't force-sensitive at all? Why hasn't anyone created force technology, either utilizing midichlorians or the principle behind them? Why do we rarely have force-sensitive creatures that aren't even vaguely humanoid -- a sith Rancor, for instance? You can avoid the whole discussion by leaving the Force the way it was in the original Trilogy -- a completely mystical, unexplained, virtually unknown power.
Ah, well. For every handwave Lucas gives to well-established laws of physics, there are at least as many plot holes in Star Trek that are relatively unrelated to its equally vigorous handwaving of physics.
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No, Chuck Norris is a hack. Picard is related to Samantha Carter and Daniel Jackson.
Please, for the good of Humanity, vote Obama.
Please, for the good of Humanity, vote Obama.
More important than Enterprise v. Death Star is Redshirts v. Stormtroopers. A bunch of guys who always die in the first scene versus a bunch of guys who couldn't hit the broad side of a planet!
Please, for the good of Humanity, vote Obama.
But Voyager... Voyager tried to take the TNG angle, which was already tired, and they just shoved perfectly, ridiculously clean carpetry into a quadrant of the galaxy where they should barely have had access to soap, let alone the carpet shampooing requirements that a typical Federation starship needs. It was implausible. They were exceeding the general cleanliness of a fully-tooled-up Federation, on their own, half a galaxy from home.
One of the (very few) lines I remember from that series was a joke Chakotay made about cleaning the carpets while Janeway was off dealing with the Borg.
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For me it ended in 1984, seriously.
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