Duke Nukem Forever Back In Development

HAHAHA! by morari · 2010-09-03 05:40 · Score: 2, Insightful

The Duke Nukem cycle continues. Just wait until "2011" slips into "2013" and so forth...

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Re:HAHAHA! by odies · 2010-09-03 05:55 · Score: 1, Interesting

It's actually being developed by a company that can finish games now. 3D Realms, along other fun stuff, had strippers dancing in motion capture devices and were just messing around with the game. Sure they must had have fun, but they completely lacked direction or management. Now it can actually finish.
Re:HAHAHA! by rvw · 2010-09-03 05:56 · Score: 1

The Duke Nukem cycle continues. Just wait until "2011" slips into "2013" and so forth...
Duke nukes you on 2012-12-21. It's the big bang everybody's waiting for!
Re:HAHAHA! by camperslo · 2010-09-03 06:14 · Score: 1

Hardware has advanced quite a bit over the years. Perhaps they (or someone licensed/contracted to do so) could create viable mobile versions. There certainly is a large potential user base between iOS and Android.
So what will it be? Which desktop OSes, consoles, and/or mobile devices may see this game?
The article lacked coverage of that important point. They did say this:
"Randy Pitchford, CEO of Gearbox Software, says an announcement regarding the future of the IP would be made on Sunday at the company's panel at the video game convention PAX 2010, which is being held in Seattle, Washington."
So maybe gamers will have more concrete news Sunday? I think the mobile platforms are a very attractive target. They certainly could reach many users very quickly, and without the delay and manufacturing costs of shipping associate with brick and mortar retail.
But can/will a quality product be coded soon???
Re:HAHAHA! by Lunix+Nutcase · 2010-09-03 06:29 · Score: 1

So what will it be? Which desktop OSes, consoles, and/or mobile devices may see this game?
Windows, PS3 and 360.
Re:HAHAHA! by BlackSnake112 · 2010-09-03 06:39 · Score: 1

I think the mobile platforms are a very attractive target. They certainly could reach many users very quickly, and without the delay and manufacturing costs of shipping associate with brick and mortar retail.
But can/will a quality product be coded soon???
So your saying this will be a download only game then. Which is a good idea. But I wouldn't limit it to just mobile devices. Go the download route but for all platforms. You keep the speedy delivery to customers. The hard core gamers, who I do think game on their phones, can get the product.
Re:HAHAHA! by twistedsymphony · 2010-09-03 06:52 · Score: 4, Funny

These guys are environmentalists... they're trying to counteract global warming by making hell freeze over.

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Re:HAHAHA! by mqduck · 2010-09-03 07:15 · Score: 2, Funny

I'm glad to see that DNF is back. Part of me, however, kind of hopes the release date keeps on slipping. It just seems like things aren't really right in the world unless Duke Nukem Forever is still "in development".

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Re:HAHAHA! by Khyber · 2010-09-03 07:39 · Score: 1

"Perhaps they (or someone licensed/contracted to do so) could create viable mobile versions"
Last I had heard DNF had moved to a hefty Engine like Unreal 2.5 before GearBox picked it up. I don't think a mobile platform is going to stand much of a chance running this without some severe cutbacks.
And Gearbox used U3 for Borderlands, so odds are this will be PC and heavy consoles only.

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Re:HAHAHA! by negRo_slim · 2010-09-03 07:55 · Score: 1

Last I had heard DNF had moved to a hefty Engine like Unreal 2.5 before GearBox picked it up. I don't think a mobile platform is going to stand much of a chance running this without some severe cutbacks.
http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/News/230990,smartphone-graphics-get-unreal.aspx

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Re:HAHAHA! by modmans2ndcoming · 2010-09-03 08:22 · Score: 1

uhh.. Gearbox is completing it... they did Borderlands so I expect this to get done and done well.
Re:HAHAHA! by Khyber · 2010-09-03 08:29 · Score: 1

"obvious that the old adage about 3D involving 'cheating without getting caught' was in full effect"
Yep. Like I said, not powerful enough to work without some cutbacks.
Sometimes it pays to read the article in its entirety.

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Re:HAHAHA! by commodore64_love · 2010-09-03 08:33 · Score: 1

Maybe the can sell it as a retro-90s piece.
"Remember the 90s? So do we! Here's your chance to play a brand-new game, but was originally created in 1997! Woooo!" (music plays) Party like it's 1999.....

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Re:HAHAHA! by mangu · 2010-09-03 09:04 · Score: 4, Funny

They were told to re-implement the same thing every time there was even a slight advancement in tech, because the managers wanted to be bleeding edge.
I can imagine the scene:
Boss- "Reimplement this usign XYZ"
Programmer- "Uh, OK, but we need to redo the strippers motion capture for that"
Re:HAHAHA! by trytoguess · 2010-09-03 09:20 · Score: 1

What kind of environmental nutcase thinks freezing the Earth's core is a good idea?!
Re:HAHAHA! by thetoadwarrior · 2010-09-03 09:20 · Score: 1

I think it will ship but it will just feel boring as hell even if it's an excellent game purely because it has taken fucking ages to be released.
Re:HAHAHA! by Antisyzygy · 2010-09-03 09:47 · Score: 1

Traditionally Hell was a cold place, so I dont think its anywhere near the Earths core.

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Re:HAHAHA! by somersault · 2010-09-03 10:13 · Score: 1

Nah, the hype for it kinda died out for me when they announced that they'd stopped development. This was awesome news though, I think I'd easily be able to enjoy it if it's anywhere as much fun as DN3D was (even compared to Quake, just because it had pipe bombs, trip mines, video cameras, etc) when I was a kid.

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Re:HAHAHA! by Sulphur · 2010-09-03 14:54 · Score: 1

The Hurd arrived. The Hurd was fired. You are up next Duke so Nukem.
Re:HAHAHA! by Jedi+Alec · 2010-09-03 19:16 · Score: 1

Well, what's the alternative? Strapping a hang-glider to a pig and then firing it off with a catapult? No true environmentalist would do that to a pig...so icicles in hell it is.

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Re:HAHAHA! by dbcad7 · 2010-09-04 02:58 · Score: 1

Although I am sure people will buy it for smartphones, I personally will not.. Tablets may be acceptable though. For me the phone as a gaming platform has different needs.. Even though it can be done, I don't want a game like this on my phone.. because I don't want to spend days immersed in such a tiny slice of the experience this type of game is supposed to provide.. For my phone, I do want good looking and slightly challenging time wasters that I can spend varying amounts of time on.. 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 2 hours etc.. But that's me. I am sure there are people who would love it on the phone, but for something like this game I'll stick to a bigger screen.

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Re:HAHAHA! by thetoadwarrior · 2010-09-04 08:01 · Score: 1

That's my fear. I loved Duke and played the side scrollers but then really got into Duke 3D. I bought Quake when it came out but I didn't really play it much for the first couple of years purely because Duke was so much more fun. Then the amount of time I spent trying to read more about DNF just makes me think that I've spent a good chunk of my life (nearly half) waiting for it to come out.

As hard as I try to be realistic I think I'll still be expecting the second coming. I will most definitely be buying it without a doubt.
Re:HAHAHA! by somersault · 2010-09-04 08:29 · Score: 1

Well, Gearbox are decent developers at least.. I've only played HL: Opposing Force and CS: Condition Zero (another game that they had to take over because the original developers sucked).. they were nothing spectacular but they were solid games. Apparently Borderlands is pretty good, haven't played it myself.
If they manage to stick to even half of whatever 3D Realms' vision was for DNF then it should be a good game :)

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Re:HAHAHA! by DaVince21 · 2010-09-04 22:18 · Score: 1

Well, it's picked up by a different studio now, instead of 3DR, which seemed to have been slacking rather than really making the game. I give it some hope.

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In other Hell News a cold front may be moving in.. by meerling · 2010-09-03 05:40 · Score: 5, Funny

Stay tuned and see if things get frosty.

Vaporware by guspasho · 2010-09-03 05:40 · Score: 3, Funny

The legend continues!

Re:Vaporware by snspdaarf · 2010-09-03 05:45 · Score: 1

Exactly. "The Game It Was Meant To Be"

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Re:Vaporware by WilliamGeorge · 2010-09-03 05:57 · Score: 2, Informative

I don't know, man - it looks legit (finally). Check out all the coverage from PAX on the Kotaku home page: http://kotaku.com/

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Re:Vaporware by dsoltesz · 2010-09-03 06:28 · Score: 1

It spent 12 years looking legit. I will not be fooled again. I've had enough heartbreak.
Re:Vaporware by elrous0 · 2010-09-03 07:01 · Score: 1

Another day of Duke Nuke'Em delays is like a day on the farm. I LOVE THE DUKE!

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Re:Vaporware by Drakkenmensch · 2010-09-03 07:39 · Score: 1

Is it 1999 already?
Re:Vaporware by modmans2ndcoming · 2010-09-03 08:28 · Score: 1

And if 3dRealms was announcing this, then everyone would agree.... but Gearbox has a rep for finishing its games, so I think you would lose any bets you take on this.

Even the meme is dead by avandesande · 2010-09-03 05:40 · Score: 2, Interesting

Haven't seen any Duke Nukem jokes on /. in a while.

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Re:Even the meme is dead by Abstrackt · 2010-09-03 05:52 · Score: 5, Funny

Haven't seen any Duke Nukem jokes on /. in a while.
We're still working on them. Expect some in 2011.

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Re:Even the meme is dead by Adriax · 2010-09-03 06:04 · Score: 4, Funny

Better make that 2012, they're having some problems migrating from the Knockknock engine to the Insovietrussia engine.

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Re:Even the meme is dead by maxwell+demon · 2010-09-03 06:07 · Score: 1

Did Netcraft comfirm it?

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Re:Even the meme is dead by The+Moof · 2010-09-03 06:27 · Score: 1

The meme is far from dead. Any mention of Gran Turismo 5 on gaming sites usually yield a ton of "aka, 'Gran Turismo: Forever" comments.
Re:Even the meme is dead by Hognoxious · 2010-09-03 06:52 · Score: 3, Funny

Netcraft is down. They're porting their servers to Hurd.
It's putting a big load on the hardware, but they've drilled pipes down so they can use hell as a heat sink.

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Re:Even the meme is dead by drej · 2010-09-03 07:04 · Score: 5, Funny

Can't say I blame them. Every time you port something to the Insovietrussia engine, it ports it right back to you.
Re:Even the meme is dead by killmenow · 2010-09-03 07:23 · Score: 1

Netcraft confirms it.
Re:Even the meme is dead by aztracker1 · 2010-09-03 08:52 · Score: 1

You don't port to Insovietrussia engine, you fool... Insovietrussia engine ports you... *sigh*

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Re:Even the meme is dead by IICV · 2010-09-03 08:56 · Score: 2, Informative

In the USA, you port game; in Soviet Russia, game deports you!
Re:Even the meme is dead by gosand · 2010-09-08 05:50 · Score: 1

Better make that 2012, they're having some problems migrating from the Knockknock engine to the Insovietrussia engine.
Idiot! That's because you have to migrate the Insovietrussia engine to the Knockknock engine !!

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Too Late by Reapy · 2010-09-03 05:40 · Score: 3, Insightful

Generic console FPS game with some punchy one liners. Snooore!

Re:Too Late by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-03 05:47 · Score: 1, Insightful

Yep. PC users going to get the short end of the stick from Gearbox again. I predict PC version will release at least a week behind console versions for "optimization" which is Gearbox code for "just sort of haphazardly slap all that crap PC gamers whine about like text chat and video settings and keyboard and mouse support into the game so we can claim it was developed for PC even though everyone knows that's bullshit."
Re:Too Late by mark72005 · 2010-09-03 05:53 · Score: 1, Troll

console game market >>> PC game market

(though, not for this particular game)
Re:Too Late by morari · 2010-09-03 06:11 · Score: 3, Informative

I remember all of the dumb little hacks I had to do to get Borderlands working as a proper PC games. Even then, the interface and menus still suffered from console-itis.

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Re:Too Late by itsenrique · 2010-09-03 07:23 · Score: 1

this is not a troll, its a larger market, not a better market. full disclosure: i own ps3 and an aspire one, so i'm not exactly doing much pc gaming.
Re:Too Late by Khyber · 2010-09-03 07:44 · Score: 2, Interesting

"I remember all of the dumb little hacks I had to do to get Borderlands working as a proper PC games."
And which hacks were those? I haven't had ONE single issue running Borderlands on my HP laptop, not since release date.
Let me guess, you got a crappy sound card the U3 engine didn't like and you had to drop all the way down to basic sound acceleration?

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Re:Too Late by Deltaspectre · 2010-09-03 07:57 · Score: 1

I've also had the game from release day. The major problems that occurred for me and the other people who went in on the 4-pack with me were:
*No way to turn off voice chat without editing configuration files
*Broken networking. Sometimes we could connect, sometimes we couldn't, sometimes Hamachi worked, sometimes nothing worked even with the machine in the DMZ, or all of the machines on the LAN.
Thankfully, these have been patched since... but there are still a couple of interface quirks that just scream that this game wasn't made for a mouse.
Sound problems? Worked fine for us.

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Re:Too Late by morari · 2010-09-03 08:07 · Score: 1

I haven't had any issues running it either. The game runs, it just doesn't play well out of the box. It's not an issue of it being slow, or my hardware sucking. It's an issue of it being designed for consoles. Maybe you like consoles and don't notice it, but I had to go through quite a bit to get it to play the way a FPS with a mouse and keyboard should. From looking over the official forums, and seeing the fan-made configuration tools, I'd say a lot of people agree.

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Re:Too Late by negRo_slim · 2010-09-03 08:09 · Score: 1

Let me guess, you got a crappy sound card the U3 engine didn't like and you had to drop all the way down to basic sound acceleration?Let me guess, you got a crappy sound card the U3 engine didn't like and you had to drop all the way down to basic sound acceleration?
That's what you get for running SoundBlaster compatible. Real gamers use AdLib Gold!

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Re:Too Late by lgw · 2010-09-03 08:09 · Score: 1

Besides all that, Borderlands was horrible. Borderlands was boring because it was insanely repetative. It is as if Gearbox made the first 10% of the game, for example the missions, and then just copy and pasted it a lot.
I just can't believe 3DRealms gave Duke Forever to Grearbox. At least I can officially let my 12 years of anticipation die a proper death today.
Yeah, I played Borderlands for a few hours, then relaized I had seen the entire game and just stopped. I can only hope they do more for DNF, but I long ago gave up on in. Ples, that fact that DNF was an excuse for the developers to get paid to sit around watching strippers - that's enough for any game to aspire to. Shipping anything at this point is just gravy.

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Re:Too Late by modmans2ndcoming · 2010-09-03 08:29 · Score: 1

eh?
I have had Borderlands since launch date and have never had that problem,.
Re:Too Late by Khyber · 2010-09-03 08:30 · Score: 1

'*No way to turn off voice chat without editing configuration files"
Flip the broadcast switch to on and then off in the settings. This is a bug inherent in the U3 engine.
"*Broken networking. Sometimes we could connect, sometimes we couldn't, sometimes Hamachi worked, sometimes nothing worked even with the machine in the DMZ, or all of the machines on the LAN."
Blame Gamespy for shitting all over the U3 networking stuff.

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Re:Too Late by Khyber · 2010-09-03 08:31 · Score: 1

"but I had to go through quite a bit to get it to play the way a FPS with a mouse and keyboard should."
I never had to do that once. Install, run, and controls were just as simple as could be. My only annoyance is reloading at the same time I'm picking up stuff.

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Re:Too Late by Khyber · 2010-09-03 08:32 · Score: 1

Real Gamers output the LDS system to PC speaker without needing a sound card.

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Re:Too Late by partyguerrilla · 2010-09-03 09:25 · Score: 1

On the other hand, they did make Opposing Force back then. It's probably the only case I remember where the expansion was better than the main game.
Re:Too Late by Luckyo · 2010-09-03 09:27 · Score: 1

Blizzard called. They said their tubes are clogged with 1k USD bills again.
Re:Too Late by morari · 2010-09-03 10:58 · Score: 1

You must be more forgiving in your controls then. I wish I could so easily accept things, but I am picky. ;)

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Re:Too Late by Cederic · 2010-09-03 13:15 · Score: 1

No, I blame Gearbox for releasing a bug-ridden console port and lying about it being developed as a PC game.
Console gaming sucks donkeys. I hate console ports. Borderlands should have been far better.
Re:Too Late by bigstrat2003 · 2010-09-03 14:18 · Score: 1

Speak for yourself, I thought Borderlands was a truly great game. I'm happy that Gearbox will be doing DNF, as a result.

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Re:Too Late by ceraphis · 2010-09-03 19:03 · Score: 1

The only problem I ever had with borderlands was that the multiplayer was quite frustrating to get working at first. As soon as you applied port forwarding knowledge known from mucking around with routers for a large chunk of your life, however, you could get some solid games running (I'm mainly talking about launch).

As an aside, I could never get into it quite as well as I'd hoped because it didn't feel like there was enough solid, constant progression aside from gear upgrades. Diablo 2 for example had a much stronger focus on skills and such which is more my style rather than an endgame WoW-like gear-lust focus.

YES by Mekkah · 2010-09-03 05:40 · Score: 1

So it'll be cancelled again after they have time to think about it at their Labor day BBQ?

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It's not april 1st by thewise1 · 2010-09-03 05:41 · Score: 2, Insightful

But I'm still not going to hold my breath

Re:It's not april 1st by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-03 05:50 · Score: 5, Interesting

You know, if they could make the actual release date on April 1st it would be rather funny. NOBODY would believe the press releases :-)
Re:It's not april 1st by Abstrackt · 2010-09-03 07:18 · Score: 5, Funny

You know, if they could make the actual release date on April 1st it would be rather funny. NOBODY would believe the press releases :-)
At this point, they could pick literally any other day of the year and nobody would believe the press release.

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Re:It's not april 1st by nobodyman · 2010-09-03 19:01 · Score: 1

Well, with George Broussard off the project this thing finally has a chance. The Wired piece on him was pretty damning -- every time he saw a shiny object he demanded that it be added to DNF. The failure of Duke Nukem Forever lies squarely at his feet.

If you believe... by sneaker98 · 2010-09-03 05:42 · Score: 2, Interesting

If you'll believe this, than I've got a bridge I think you might be interested in!

Re:If you believe... by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-03 05:51 · Score: 2, Funny

please forward specifications of said bridge
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Re:If you believe... by Killjoy_NL · 2010-09-04 19:53 · Score: 1

Length, Width, Height, Weight
Total length of Bridge including approaches from abutment to abutment: 1.7 miles = 8,981 ft = 2,737 m
Total length of Bridge including approaches from abutment to abutment, plus the distance to the Toll Plaza: 9,150 ft = 2,788 m
Length of suspension span including main span and side spans: 1.2 miles = 6,450 ft = 1,966 m
Length of main span portion of suspended structure (distance between towers): 4,200 ft = 1,280 m
Length of one side span: 1,125 ft = 343 m
Width of Bridge: 90 ft = 27 m
Width of roadway between curbs: 62 ft = 19 m
Width of sidewalk: 10 ft = 3 m
Clearance above mean higher high water: 220 ft = 67 m
Total weight of each anchorage: 60,000 tons = 54,400,000 kg
Original combined weight of Bridge, anchorages, and approaches: 894,500 tons = 811,500,000 kg
Total weight of Bridge, anchorages, and approaches (1937): 894,500 tons = 811,500,000 kg
Total weight of Bridge, anchorages, and approaches (1986)*: 887,000 tons = 804,700,00 kg*
Weight of Bridge, excluding anchorages and approaches, and including the suspended structure, main towers, piers and fenders, bottom lateral system and orthotropic redecking (1986): 419,800 tons = 380,800,000 kg*
* The total bridge weight listed for 1986 includes the reduction in weight due to the redecking in 1986. The weight of the original reinforced concrete deck and its supporting stringers was 166,397 tons (150,952,000 kg). The weight of the new orthotropic steel plate deck, its two inches of epoxy asphalt surfacing, and its supporting pedestals is now 154,093 tons (139,790,700 kg). This is a total reduction in weight of the deck of 12,300 tons (11,158,400 kg), or 1.37 tons (1133 kg) per lineal foot of deck.
Bridge Deflection, Load Capacity
Watch this video to see how the Golden Gate Bridge can move up and down by as much as 16 feet depending on the temperature.
Maximum transverse deflection, at center span: 27.7 ft = 8.4 m
Maximum downward deflection, at center span: 10.8 ft = 3.3 m
Maximum upward deflection, at center span: 5.8 ft = 1.77 m
Live load capacity per lineal foot: 4,000 lbs. = 1,814.4 kg
As an example of how the Bridge is built to move, during the winter storms in 1982, the main span bowed approximately 6 to 7 feet
The three maximum deflections noted above at the center of the suspension bridge are due to the following loading conditions:
1. The transverse deflection is due to a sustained transverse wind load. The maximum transverse movement of 27.7 ft is based on the maximum allowable longitudinal movement of the wind locks at the support towers;
2. The maximum downward deflection is due to a condition with maximum live load on the center span, no live load on the side spans and maximum design temperature to elongate the main cables; and
3. The maximum upward deflection is due to a condition opposite to condition 2 above, with maximum live load on side spans, no live load on center span and minimum design temperature to shorten the cable length.
Main Tower Stats
The Golden Gate Bridge has two main towers

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my prediction by jollyreaper · 2010-09-03 05:42 · Score: 3, Interesting

In another five years someone will buy the naming rights to Duke and release a flash browser game as "Duke Nukem Forever" as a gag. "See, it finally came out."

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Re:my prediction by ChefInnocent · 2010-09-03 08:14 · Score: 1

So it's going to follow the fate of the Amiga. The Amiga is dead, long live the Amiga name.

If they dropped the word Back by jfinke · 2010-09-03 05:42 · Score: 5, Funny

From the article title, it would be much closer to reality...

"Duke Nukem Forever in Development"

Re:If they dropped the word Back by Zumbs · 2010-09-03 05:46 · Score: 5, Funny

Or ... Duke Nukem Fornever!

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3d Realms Forums by emkyooess · 2010-09-03 05:43 · Score: 2, Interesting

3d Realms is taking it badly -- they forcibly closed all forums related to Duke Nukem, even the older ones. It looks like Take 2 stole their IP.

Re:3d Realms Forums by VGPowerlord · 2010-09-03 05:50 · Score: 5, Informative

3d Realms is taking it badly -- they forcibly closed all forums related to Duke Nukem, even the older ones. It looks like Take 2 stole their IP.
If by stole you mean "used their contractual rights to get the game finished, since 3D Realms didn't," then yeah.

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Re:3d Realms Forums by Grog6 · 2010-09-03 06:28 · Score: 1

I was on the forums at around 5 am; they closed around the time of the announcement at PAX, apparently.
I for one, Welcome our new Duke Overlord!!
How many computers have we been thru since the original? I remember the Plutonium Pak had an install bug that complained about my 16MB of ram, lol. It required 8MB, and failed on 16, lol.
It looks like my Duke game directory was last modified in January of 1999; that's the last time I changed a config file, lol.
I'm ready for this to be released; I have vacation time... :)

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Re:3d Realms Forums by Miltazar · 2010-09-03 07:14 · Score: 5, Informative

3d Realms is taking it badly -- they forcibly closed all forums related to Duke Nukem, even the older ones. It looks like Take 2 stole their IP.
You should probably actually visit their forum before posting misinformation. What has actually happened is that the main forum moderator, Joe Siegler, has been hired by Gearbox to handle their Duke Nukem community. As such they have moved Duke Nukem related forums over to the new Gearbox forum.

See his posts here and here for confirmation.

Whether they now own the Duke Nukem IP is unknown as no announcements have been made one way or the other.

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Re:3d Realms Forums by emkyooess · 2010-09-03 07:35 · Score: 1

Read the 3drealms.com post to which you linked. It's signed Bryan Turner and has *very* strong wording.
Re:3d Realms Forums by olau · 2010-09-03 08:16 · Score: 1

... and has *very* strong wording.
Not for Duke Nukem, no.
Re:3d Realms Forums by dangitman · 2010-09-03 11:48 · Score: 2, Funny

There's a Duke Nukem community??? Are these forums hosted on an OS/2 Warp server? *Head assplodes*

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Re:3d Realms Forums by ceraphis · 2010-09-03 19:06 · Score: 1

3D Realms doesn't exactly deserve the IP IMHO. I've heard about the game and desired it way too much over the years to care at all about an idea of fairness, I say good on Take 2 for actively doing something.
Re:3d Realms Forums by Anarchduke · 2010-09-05 20:27 · Score: 1

cockmongle ....

that is a pretty awesome word

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This is GREAT news ... by ackthpt · 2010-09-03 05:43 · Score: 5, Funny

... for my grandchildren.

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Re:This is GREAT news ... by Zumbs · 2010-09-03 07:08 · Score: 1

Yeah, it is nice to have a common frame of reference for jokes :D

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Re:This is GREAT news ... by xenapan · 2010-09-03 08:57 · Score: 1

you can tell them about duke nuke em and how legen --- wait for it!
keep waiting.
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In Other News... by zepo1a · 2010-09-03 05:44 · Score: 2, Funny

Pigs seen flying and record cold temperatures in Hell. :)

Which System? by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-03 05:44 · Score: 5, Funny

So, is this going to be released for the N64 or PS1?

2012 perhaps???? by OzPeter · 2010-09-03 05:44 · Score: 4, Funny

What did those ancient Mayans know?

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Re:2012 perhaps???? by yanyan · 2010-09-03 06:12 · Score: 1

The invasion of the Rigelatins!!!
Re:2012 perhaps???? by DiEx-15 · 2010-09-04 03:34 · Score: 1

For me, it is a race between:

* Duke Nukem Forever Coming out.

* Jesus coming back.

* Xenu being released.

My money is still on Jesus and Xenu.

Duke Nukem Forever by wormtail · 2010-09-03 05:44 · Score: 1

....it takes forever to build.

Gearbox? Hell yes! by Aaul · 2010-09-03 05:45 · Score: 5, Insightful

After being thoroughly satisfied with Borderlands (and I still play it regularly, can't wait for the expansion this month!) I think Gearbox is the best developer to finish up DNF. BL has lots of similar humor and is probably in my list of top 5 favorite games of at least the last 5 years.

Having said that.. I'm still going to wait until it's been out for a few days or weeks before buying, to see if it's worth it. I don't doubt Gearbox's talent but I do think DNF has enough negative "vibe" around it that there is a chance it won't live up to how fun the original was. And that's really the ultimate metric in my opinion...is the game fun? Nothing else really matters.

Re:Gearbox? Hell yes! by morari · 2010-09-03 06:15 · Score: 1

Borderlands was amusing. It unfortunately suffered from console-itis however. The menus and interface were the most present problem, but there were also plenty of issues with movement. Of course, most things could be fixed if you wanted to sift through the game files and edit a few lines of code. Still, you shouldn't have to do that.

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Re:Gearbox? Hell yes! by Khyber · 2010-09-03 07:47 · Score: 1

The issue lies with the game needing fucking Gamespy.
Set your router to Gamespy's bullshit and your problem should be resolved.

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Re:Gearbox? Hell yes! by mcgrew · 2010-09-03 07:52 · Score: 1

there is a chance it won't live up to how fun the original was.
You mean the first one or the first three? DN 1 the squeaky side scroller that used the PC speaker for sound? DN2 the side scroller that used the PC's sound card? Or DN3D with its 2.5D engine?
I always figured the reason it was taking 4ever was they were working on true stereoscopy for the game. That said, I liked the first two better than 3D; 3D seemed a low-budget Quake. Not nearly as much humor is the side scrollers (shooting the Energizer bunny was a hoot).

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Re:Gearbox? Hell yes! by olau · 2010-09-03 08:18 · Score: 3, Funny

And that's really the ultimate metric in my opinion...is the game fun? Nothing else really matters.
That's technically not true. You also still need to be alive.
Re:Gearbox? Hell yes! by SBFCOblivion · 2010-09-03 09:22 · Score: 1

Honest question: Did you play primarily single player or multi-player with Borderlands?
Re:Gearbox? Hell yes! by DigiShaman · 2010-09-03 13:39 · Score: 1

I have the game, and love it. I've never played multi-player though. It's fun as has hell in single player, so I never got around to bother with it.

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Re:Gearbox? Hell yes! by ghmh · 2010-09-03 20:46 · Score: 1

I misread DNF above as "Did Not Finish" which was kind of appropriate (although moreso for 3D Realms than Gearbox).
Re:Gearbox? Hell yes! by Reservoir+Penguin · 2010-09-04 17:20 · Score: 1

Not true, since zombies can also play video games. Just see Shawn of the Dead.

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Oblig. by ihatejobs · 2010-09-03 05:47 · Score: 1

It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all outta gum.

In seriousness I wonder if this will actually see release? I'd buy it simply because its Duke Nukem. He's badass personified.

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Re:Oblig. by hedwards · 2010-09-03 05:56 · Score: 2, Interesting

Honestly, I'll be buying a copy, if for no other reason than it's bound to be a train wreck. That and I'm really curious what 12 or so years of development actually gets. From what I've heard they've been close to releasing it a few times, but couldn't get over the perfectionist need to be as revolutionary as the previous game was.
Re:Oblig. by Lunix+Nutcase · 2010-09-03 06:01 · Score: 1

Yeah but George and 3DRealms are no longer involved. Gearbox can actually get a game done.
Re:Oblig. by bsDaemon · 2010-09-03 06:07 · Score: 1

Duke Nukem 3D was Doom with strippers, porn posters and dirty jokes. If Doom and Leisure Suit Larry had an illegitimate love child, it'd have been Duke Nukem 3D. What was revolutionary about that?
Re:Oblig. by Zenaku · 2010-09-03 06:19 · Score: 1

JETPACKS!

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Re:Oblig. by N0Man74 · 2010-09-03 06:39 · Score: 1

I think you really missed the spirit of the game, if you reduce it to just being a crass Doom.
It was simply a fun FPS that didn't take itself or the genre too seriously. It was full of satire drawing from video games and pop culture. It did not try to be realistic, including things like shrink rays, holodukes, jetpacks, rapidfire rockets, and the Mighty Boot.
Just because it included some of the content you reference does not mean that's all the game was about. Did you actually even play the game, or did you just judge it based on sensationalist media coverage?
Re:Oblig. by Cley+Faye · 2010-09-03 06:39 · Score: 1

the engine could handle more funny stuff, like moving sectors, titled floor, and stuff I don't remember since it was so long ago.
Re:Oblig. by bsDaemon · 2010-09-03 06:43 · Score: 1

Yeah, I played it and I thought it was fun. I'm just saying, I don't think it was revolutionary. It seemed to just be Doom + boobs. Of course, there's nothing wrong with that, just saying holding it up on a pedestal as some sort of super-game is kind of pointless.
Re:Oblig. by Idiomatick · 2010-09-03 06:52 · Score: 1

I'm seriously worried that they'll be taking out the strippers porn and dirty jokes. To open it to a wider audience.
Re:Oblig. by Wooky_linuxer · 2010-09-03 07:13 · Score: 1

First, the "emulation" of 3D was way better than Doom. Not true 3D as Quake, of course, but it was so good as to not be noticeable. Secondly, you could interact with in ways that most games these days won't let you. You could brake things, drink water, take a piss, give strippers money, and all these seemed natural. Third, there was a likeable (or hateable, but it was fun anyways, that's undeniable) character. And then, even if the story wasn't stellar, there was some story, and level design was ingenious. Besides, it was fun to play, and to hear to one-liners and watch the pop-references.

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Re:Oblig. by Khyber · 2010-09-03 07:48 · Score: 1

The actual need to reload after emptying a 12 round magazine.

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Re:Oblig. by gorzek · 2010-09-03 07:56 · Score: 1

I believe it was also the first FPS to allow rooms above rooms, which were really just different sectors stacked on top of each other using an ugly hack (paraphrasing Ken Silverman.)

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Re:Oblig. by shutdown+-p+now · 2010-09-03 08:04 · Score: 1

Honestly, I'll be buying a copy, if for no other reason than it's bound to be a train wreck. That and I'm really curious what 12 or so years of development actually gets.

So am I, and I suspect it's precisely the reason the game was picked up. At this point, DN4E brand is extremely well-known in gaming circles - regardless of any associated connotations - and even considering the latter, a lot of people would buy the game if only to see what the result of 14 years of development will look like.
Re:Oblig. by mcgrew · 2010-09-03 08:14 · Score: 1

I knew the Duke since he was a squeaky little side scroller shooting the Energizer bunny. Alas, he's not doing so well these days. I went to visit him at teh nursing home last Saturday.
"So how ya doin', Duke?"
"Not so $%*&^(*&^ good. My arthritis is killing me, and I can't think straight with all the meds they make me take. My digestion is bad, I have to use a walker now, I don't hear too good (gunfire will ruin your hearing), I need reading glasses, and I'm pissed off at the nursing staff."
"So, waddya gonna do, man?"
"I'm kicking ass and taking initials, because I an't got time for names. After I take my nap. Maybe."
And you guys wonder what's taking him so long!

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Re:Oblig. by 0111+1110 · 2010-09-03 08:48 · Score: 1

That bubble gum quote was originally from They Live released in 1988, pre-dating the Duke by 8 years.

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Re:Oblig. by Grog6 · 2010-09-03 10:18 · Score: 1

It would cause weird things to happen, tho.
One of my levels had a corridor that crossed, and if you held down the squat button at the intersection, you could drop to the lower tunnel. :)
Destructable walls is original to Duke, I'm pretty sure.

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Re:Oblig. by mattack2 · 2010-09-03 12:59 · Score: 1

Thanks, I was going to correct that too.
Re:Oblig. by N0Man74 · 2010-09-04 03:13 · Score: 1

Selling it short as being "Doom + boobs" "kind of pointless" as well, and quite off the mark.
Also, do we really have to go through the "evolution vs revolution" cliche debate? First of all, by what measure?
DN3D's engine was a huge leap over Doom, but it certainly did make some improvements. For example, it allowed for jetpacks, making it feel closer to actual 3D. They added interesting things such as being able to see from another point of view, within your point of view (security cameras and monitors).
The game also included much more interactivity with objects than other games of that time periods (in a time when player interaction with objects usually was mostly limited to doors and barrels).
However, one area that I might say that DN3D was "revolutionary" was in the developer support for the modding community. Unlike Doom editors, which were made by the gaming community through reverse engineering, 3D Realms actually freely released their Build editor for DN3D. To this day, DN3D still stands among a tiny minority of games that include game editors to encourage community made mods.
Plus, the game had a lot of style and humor (as alluded to in my earlier post).
So, yeah... If you take away things like crawling through air ducts, fun and interesting items like holodukes, shrink rays, and jet packs, the humor and parody, a developer released level editor, increased environment interactivity, style, then yeah... it was nothing but "Doom + boobs."
Re:Oblig. by pinkushun · 2010-09-05 23:40 · Score: 1

If DOOM and Leisure Suit Larry had an illegitimate love child, it'd have been Duke Nukem 3D.
Well played, sir.
But:
- DOOM did not allow jumping, so the level designs are very different
- DN3D had a mouse-look option, whereas in DOOM you can't control the viewport pitch axis (because all walls are drawn vertically; see rendering section for Tech 1 Engine)
- DN3D had an inventory system for items (night vision, jetpack, medkti)
- Build Engine vs Tech 1 Engine
- Nipple Tassels! Nuff said.
Re:Oblig. by TheRaven64 · 2010-09-06 00:41 · Score: 1
Destructible walls were in the Catacomb Abyss, which predates Wolf3D. Duke3D actually couldn't do rooms above rooms, but it had some hacks that let you do something almost equivalent, as long as they didn't have entrances on the same side. This meant that you could do things like have a figure of eight track where the two tracks crossed but they were still separate in the game world. Neither was on top of the other, but they were not accessible from each other, in spite of occupying the same location in 3D space. This was used in some of the later levels to produce impossible maps, which aren't possible in engines that do real 3D.
A few things that I really enjoyed in Duke3D, although I'm not sure how novel any of them were:
- Mirrors. You could see Duke in the mirror, you could smash them (and get a retort from Duke about bad luck), and you could bounce shots off them with some of the weapons (e.g. shrink ray).
- The freeze ray and shrink ray. Weapons that just disabled the enemy, they didn't kill them. These could (temporarily) disable almost any enemy in one shot, but then you still needed to kill them, so there wasn't such a strong ordering of worst to best weapons.
- Pipe bombs and laser trip mines meant that you could lay elaborate traps. You could detonate the pipes with a trip mine, so you could get a really big explosion by combining different weapons.
- Jetpack! Quake had a 3D engine, but Duke3D was a 3D game. There were lots of fun things that required you to fly for a bit. The fuel requirement of the jet pack meant that you had to be careful when using it, but combined with weapons for creating traps it could be very effective. Not to mention fun - strafing a load of players with the shrink ray from above was great fun. You get the kills, but you got to cause complete mayhem in the middle of a deathmatch.
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Re:Oblig. by TheRaven64 · 2010-09-06 01:36 · Score: 1

Not quite. The line from They Live had a slightly different word order (chew bubble gum and kick ass).

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Re:Oblig. by WuphonsReach · 2010-09-06 03:45 · Score: 1

Duke3D actually couldn't do rooms above rooms, but it had some hacks that let you do something almost equivalent, as long as they didn't have entrances on the same side. This meant that you could do things like have a figure of eight track where the two tracks crossed but they were still separate in the game world. Neither was on top of the other, but they were not accessible from each other, in spite of occupying the same location in 3D space.

Well, kind of... the rule for floors above other floors was that all of the vertices had to be at different coordinates and no sides could match up with the floor above/below. So it wasn't hard to do a bridge over another section, but a multi-floor building was out.

Multi-floor buildings had to be simulated. You would lay out individual floors on different parts of the map, then use teleporter effects to move the player between them.

The other big issue was that most monsters could not leave the polygon that they spawned on. I don't remember how they did the flying pig cops, I just remember the issue with the basic static spawns and that you needed to be careful laying out the floor cells.

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This will take some time for release I reckon by Satanboy · 2010-09-03 05:47 · Score: 1

I would expect this will be at least 6 months off.
The amount of QA for this game will be enormous.

They will have to ship almost perfect code with no map flaws or seems in the levels.
Any even minor flaw will need to be cleared before the game can ship.

I notice they will not give a date for release as they do not want to fall behind expectations.

I am hopeful the team is, in fact, working on this game and is not, in reality, tickling our testicles whilst cocking the gun that is behind our heads.

Re:This will take some time for release I reckon by osu-neko · 2010-09-03 11:37 · Score: 1

I would expect this will be at least 6 months off.
The amount of QA for this game will be enormous.
Okay. Are you factoring into this the fact that they've been working on it since late 2009?

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Re:This will take some time for release I reckon by dangitman · 2010-09-03 11:52 · Score: 1

They will have to ship almost perfect code with no map flaws or seems in the levels.
Any even minor flaw will need to be cleared before the game can ship.
Why?

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Re:This will take some time for release I reckon by PixetaledPikachu · 2010-09-04 16:27 · Score: 1

I notice they will not give a date for release as they do not want to fall behind expectations.
expectations? what expectations?

Duke Nukem Forever... by Drakkenmensch · 2010-09-03 05:48 · Score: 1

... in slashdot stories!

Re:Duke Nukem FOREVER... by nsaspook · 2010-09-03 09:57 · Score: 1

...in the limbo of development. Chances are we will see the second coming of the Christ before it's released.
or the "Spontaneous creation" of another universe.

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Aw... by jtownatpunk.net · 2010-09-03 05:49 · Score: 1

That trick NEVER works.

Like Iridium by jjohnson · 2010-09-03 05:49 · Score: 5, Insightful

It cost 6 billion to put a network of satellites in orbit for a satphone network that cost $4 a minute--absolutely unsustainable business model. Picked up for $25 million after bankruptcy, it's now a thriving business since the huge sunk costs were discharged to the investors.

No surprise at all that a company would take 3D Realms assets, slap them all together and box them up. The launch campaign writes itself: "HOLY SHIT IT'S FINALLY HERE!"

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Re:Like Iridium by Yvan256 · 2010-09-03 06:13 · Score: 1

They should include an empty wrapper of bubble gum inside each box.
Re:Like Iridium by sourcerror · 2010-09-03 07:10 · Score: 1

As far as I know it was bought by the US military, so I don't know what kind of profitability are you speaking about.
Re:Like Iridium by blair1q · 2010-09-03 07:42 · Score: 1

$5 billion / $1.50 / was sustainable when planned but planners didn't foresee extent of build-out of terrestrial capabilities by competitors / $50 million / survived because the military was going to keep it up no matter what.
Other than that, you got it wrong.
Iridium actually works, and everyone knew that, but it failed as a business because its market had shrunk drastically while it was being developed (it wasn't late, its planners were just completely oblivious to the idea that their competition was perfectly willing to reach most of the world with wiresin a few short years. That left only the oceans, the most desolate land spaces, and disaster zones with massive infrastructural damage as places you really need satellite phones. And there were people (like the military) with a desire to avoid or no expectation of access to local carrier services). It does succeed because its daily maintenance costs are low and its prices are high (although the cost of replacing a satellite is relatively gigantic and the price of a small software error could be catastrophic loss of equipment).
Duke Nukem's end market is only getting bigger. But it may be a crufty pile of unimpressive suck, by now. It cost its current owners about what it would have cost them if they'd bought it now but it had been released a couple of years ago. If it is suck, then the first reviews are going to bury it and they'll lose money no matter what. If it isn't, then hey, free money. I.e., Iridium was no gamble to acquire; this game is all-or-nothing.
Re:Like Iridium by blair1q · 2010-09-03 07:45 · Score: 1

The military propped it up when it first realized it wasn't going to make back its nut, and owns some of the ground stations (handy when you're going to shroud them in barbed wire and secrecy). They don't own the network, and service is sold through a vast network of resellers.
Re:Like Iridium by Walter+Carver · 2010-09-05 01:41 · Score: 1

Even like this, Gearbox will still deserve credit for "slap the assets all together and box them up". It was Broussard's perfectionism that prevented the game from beeing published.

Please, please, PLEASE!!!! by Capt.DrumkenBum · 2010-09-03 05:50 · Score: 1

Oh god please let it be so!

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ID perfected customer QA by t0qer · 2010-09-03 05:50 · Score: 1

They will have to ship almost perfect code with no map flaws or seems in the levels.
Any even minor flaw will need to be cleared before the game can ship.

Nah they'll just patch it again and again. ID did this with the original Doom, and that seems to be the normal development cycle for just about everything these days. Release what you have, see if the customer notices/finds your bugs, patch, profit.

Re:ID perfected customer QA by KiloByte · 2010-09-03 06:49 · Score: 1

Release what you have, see if the customer notices/finds your bugs, patch, profit.
ID is pretty much the only game company which bothers with anything after "release what you have".

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Re:ID perfected customer QA by Real1tyCzech · 2010-09-03 07:20 · Score: 1

Valve.
They've been updtaing TF2 for ages. And L4D2 is getting updates weekly...
Re:ID perfected customer QA by drewhk · 2010-09-03 08:10 · Score: 1

Blizzard -> Starcraft
Almost 10 years of patches

Development forever by el_jake · 2010-09-03 05:51 · Score: 1

nuf' said.

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will it be on 6-bit tape? by swschrad · 2010-09-03 05:52 · Score: 1

so I can play it on my Control Data computer?

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Yeah, right. by Millennium · 2010-09-03 05:52 · Score: 3, Funny

Just you watch; the way this thing's going, it'll released just in time to put it in a bundle with Duke Nukem Forever.

Oh, wait...

GameStop Preorder ticket by RyuuzakiTetsuya · 2010-09-03 05:53 · Score: 5, Interesting

I wonder if GameStop will honor my DNF preorder ticket I got when the location was a Funcoland 12 years ago.

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Re:GameStop Preorder ticket by blair1q · 2010-09-03 07:49 · Score: 1

Give it a shot. They need the revenue after what EA did to them.
Re:GameStop Preorder ticket by Lunix+Nutcase · 2010-09-03 08:34 · Score: 1

EA didn't do anything to them. GameStop is acting like a bunch of chickenshits by bowing down to some whiners.
Re:GameStop Preorder ticket by drinkypoo · 2010-09-03 10:18 · Score: 2, Informative

Give it a shot. They need the revenue after what EA did to them.
Uh what? ``"Out of respect to those we serve, we will not be stocking this game," said the Army & Air Force Exchange Service's Commander Maj. Gen. Bruce Casella.'' This has nothing to do with EA or Gamestop except as a setting. Unless you had some other citation that proved something other than the opposite of what you intended...

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Re:GameStop Preorder ticket by blair1q · 2010-09-04 15:25 · Score: 1

EA put out a game that was likely to be offensive, selling a bunch of it to Gamestop, who hoped to make bank on it.
AAFES found it offensive and yanked it from all on-base outlets, including space concessioned to Gamestop.
Therefore...(waits for you to do the math as well)...Gamestop loses revenue, (and possibly also shipping and labor costs) on a game it has been anticipating selling a bunch of, because EA doesn't do proper market research.
Re:GameStop Preorder ticket by halcyon1234 · 2010-09-08 10:02 · Score: 1

Great, now I want to know if they will. If they do, post the story to a blog and submit it! "Oldest Video Game Preorder Fulfilled"

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Slipped by Frosty+Piss · 2010-09-03 05:54 · Score: 4, Funny

This *was* the First Post, but the release date slipped...

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What is this game? maybe I am too young? by fantomas · 2010-09-03 05:55 · Score: 3, Interesting

As far as I can work out, this is a follow on from a game previously released 14 years ago? is this correct? So who will care about its release apart from some very old-skool gamers? I guess it's just a kind of in-joke for old slashdot fans these days?

Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-03 06:05 · Score: 5, Insightful

I just died a little inside...
Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by Yvan256 · 2010-09-03 06:12 · Score: 2, Insightful

Is Starcraft II a joke to you? What about Diablo III?
Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by Tridus · 2010-09-03 06:15 · Score: 1

Maybe it'll turn out to be a good game, and thus people who like good games will care about it?
Not everything HAS to be a sequel to sell. See Gearboxes last game: Borderlands.

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Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by ACS+Solver · 2010-09-03 06:20 · Score: 3, Insightful

Yes, DNF is part of the Duke Nukem series, and Duke Nukem 3D was released 14 years ago. There's also the 2002 Manhattan Project but it's not really the same genre. If the game is good, being a sequel to an old game won't hurt it. Fallout 3 looks to be a good example. Released in 2008 to much acclaim from critics and players but it was a sequel, the first two Fallouts came out in 1997 and 1998. So technologically, it's a huge jump and I bet Fallout 3 had plenty of younger players who never played the first two parts. Which didn't hurt the perception of Fallout 3 any.
Likewise, DNF would not be hurt directly by being a sequel in the Duke Nukem series. It will do just fine if it's ever released and is a good game. Although if it really is released within the next year, I wouldn't expect the game to be much good - the development history seems too screwed up to produce a good end result.
Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by phantomfive · 2010-09-03 06:25 · Score: 1

If your only argument is that it is an old game, then it's not something to argue about. Starcraft II is probably one of the best-selling games of the year, and it's a sequel of an original that came out 12 years ago. 3D Dot Heroes is a remake of a super-nintendo game, and it sold well.

Enough people have heard of this game that the marketing power of the name alone will be big (everyone at the game blogs have heard of it, even if you haven't, and that will be enough to bring in the younger generations). If it is a halfway decent game, it will sell.

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Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by Hatta · 2010-09-03 06:26 · Score: 1

Right, because no one cares about old games apart from some very old school gamers. A follow up to an old game is something that no one mainstream would ever care about, right? I mean look at what happened when they released successors to Super Mario Bros., StarCraft, Fallout, and Street Fighter.

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Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by VGR · 2010-09-03 06:54 · Score: 1

As far as I can work out, this is a follow on from a game previously released 14 years ago? is this correct? So who will care about its release apart from some very old-skool gamers? I guess it's just a kind of in-joke for old slashdot fans these days?

It's a sequel to one of the best games ever made. That's why everyone who remembers it cares.
More than that, we know that 3DRealms, who was responsible for the predecessor, created much of the content for this one, so there is ample reason to believe Duke Nukem Forever will be as fun as Duke Nukem 3D. Most gamers understand that what makes a game great isn't the polygon count, it's the gameplay. And Duke 3D was both a lot of fun and had excellent level design. If you can stand to play an FPS that lacks free-look, you should try it; you'll quickly understand what the big deal is.
We wouldn't continue to deride Duke Forever's epic tale of mismanagement if the previous game hadn't captivated our interest as much as it did.

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Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by u17 · 2010-09-03 07:09 · Score: 1

Fallout 3 is not a good example, because it changes genre too. 1 and 2 are excellent RPGs, 3 is a mediocre shooter with some RPG elements.
Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by Lunix+Nutcase · 2010-09-03 07:50 · Score: 1

Most gamers understand that what makes a game great isn't the polygon count, it's the gameplay.
But apparently 3DRealms didn't considering how many times they scrapped the game engine and redid the graphics.
Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by Khyber · 2010-09-03 07:52 · Score: 1

Duke Nukem 3D had free look. You pressed the U key to turn on mouselook.

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Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by shadowkil · 2010-09-03 07:54 · Score: 2, Informative

I just died a little inside...
Dude, we're old now.
Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by Nethemas+the+Great · 2010-09-03 08:20 · Score: 1

You evil evil person! How did you ever get a five digit ID and not know/play Duke Nukem? Did mommy sign you up whilst you were in her womb?

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Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by 0111+1110 · 2010-09-03 08:29 · Score: 1

What does "old-skool" mean in this context? What does being old have to do with school anyway? I started playing computer games when I was around 8. Basically anyone who is older than a teenager now could have played the original game. So by "old" I guess you are referring to anyone older than 20. What were you doing in 1996 that was so important you missed out on Duke Nukem? It wasn't a great game IMHO but it was fun for a while and more advanced than most FPS games at the time. I'd say that the 20+ demographic is a pretty large one, although maybe not for consoles.

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Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by OffaMyLawn · 2010-09-03 09:01 · Score: 1

I am not! Even given my nickname...
Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by Sir_Lewk · 2010-09-03 10:42 · Score: 1

I think you have a pretty warped definition o "old-skool". Every gamer I know (early 20s) is keenly aware of what DNF is, and most have fond memories of playing Duke Nukem 3d. The gamer demographic is no longer averaging out at 12 or so years old like it might have in the 80s...

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Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by dangitman · 2010-09-03 11:55 · Score: 1

Well, I've never played Diablo III, but yes. Starcraft II is a joke, and not a very funny one at that. Seriously, have you played that game? The cheesy "Space Cowboy" storyline, and the gameplay that is only slightly updated from the original?

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Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by Nyder · 2010-09-03 12:17 · Score: 1

As far as I can work out, this is a follow on from a game previously released 14 years ago? is this correct? So who will care about its release apart from some very old-skool gamers? I guess it's just a kind of in-joke for old slashdot fans these days?
Who did you buy your 5 digit UID from?
Seriously though, what?
Get off your dad's account kid, let the grownup do the talking here.
But I'll tell you, since your dad probably beats you for being around the computer.
Duke Nukem was a popular First Person Shooter back when you were just swimming around your dad's balls. But the dude who made it, had a great idea for a version called Duke Nukem Forever. Unfortunetly, dude don't know shit about business, or programming, so he never released teh game. But he kept working on it. New 3D engine would come out, he'd port the game to that, and never get it finished.
So ya, it's a joke around slashdot and well, the internet for anyone who's been around for a few years and likes PC gaming and First Person Shooters.
Actually, you should be glad that DNF never got released, because it meant your dad actually went out and knocked your mom up, thus ending with you (and him having to get married and thus, ruined for life).
So, instead of running around trolling with his account, why don't you log out his account, google Duke Nukem Forever, and learn a little history on why your dad's still a chump.
(please note, this post is just a joke. I don't know fantomas, I don't know his/her kids, etc. I am, stoned a bit, and thought I was being funny. If I'm not, and I offended you, not my intention, but I'll take what I can get out of this.)

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Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by gringer · 2010-09-03 13:32 · Score: 1

That's impressive: too old for you, and you have an ID below 100,000. Does anyone have any estimate of when particular IDs were first used?

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Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by bigstrat2003 · 2010-09-03 14:35 · Score: 1

Fallout 3 is an RPG. The fact that it is not a typical RPG combat system does not make it less of an RPG. It's stat-driven combat with skills, dialogue trees, and an emphasis on story... how is that not an RPG??

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Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by ceraphis · 2010-09-03 19:13 · Score: 2, Insightful

Likewise, DNF would not be hurt directly by being a sequel in the Duke Nukem series. It will do just fine if it's ever released and is a good game. Although if it really is released within the next year, I wouldn't expect the game to be much good - the development history seems too screwed up to produce a good end result.
Disagree. They could probably make a pretty decent game using whatever assets the game already has, engine and textures, models etc, but spend the remaining time left doing voices story and level design. Throw in a pretty good multiplayer mode and you have a solid game. I know it may not be feasible if the assets are too "last-gen", but I assume they at least wont follow what I keep hearing was the cause of the long dev time to begin with: the over-arching ridiculous desire to be as bleeding edge as possible. If I recall, the teaser trailer that came out within the last year or so didn't look so bad (can't remember if it had gameplay or only cgi), certainly not bad enough to require new tech.
Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by u38cg · 2010-09-04 00:49 · Score: 1

Note the UID. Sarcasm here, I think.

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Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by ildon · 2010-09-04 15:00 · Score: 1

A sequel that's like the original? Get out.
Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by syrinje · 2010-09-04 15:32 · Score: 1

Since you already have a detailed factual explanation as a reply - let me pull out that other meme...You must be new here!

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Re:What is this game? maybe I am too young? by IrquiM · 2010-09-05 03:12 · Score: 1

Yes, and yes, but DNF? No!

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it worked for Batman by rev_sanchez · 2010-09-03 05:55 · Score: 4, Funny

I say they do a reboot and start off with Duke Begins and then follow up with a bad ass sequel called The Duke Knight.

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Re:it worked for Batman by game+kid · 2010-09-03 06:12 · Score: 1

Just remember to cast a machine or an already-dead guy as the sequel's villain, or he'll be out of more than just gum.

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Re:it worked for Batman by el3mentary · 2010-09-03 06:47 · Score: 1

I agree, Nukeman and Robin was shit.

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makes sense by phantomfive · 2010-09-03 05:57 · Score: 3, Insightful

It makes sense, Duke Nuke'em has such massive name recognition, as long as it's not a completely sucky game it's guaranteed to sell decently. Financially speaking, it makes sense for someone to buy it up and put a bit of effort in to get it out the door. I'm surprised EA didn't do it.

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Re:makes sense by josath · 2010-09-03 07:15 · Score: 4, Funny

Duke Nuke'em has such massive name recognition
Apparently it doesn't have enough name recognition for you to get it right...

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Re:makes sense by Khyber · 2010-09-03 07:54 · Score: 1

The original was spelled Duke Nukum.
Shit I still play that in DOSBox.

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Re:makes sense by BaronHethorSamedi · 2010-09-03 08:08 · Score: 2, Interesting

Does Duke Nukem still have "massive name recognition?" I vaguely remember playing DN3d when I was in high school. It was a somewhat interesting FPS, based on some fun little 2d platforming games (which I'm sure most people have forgotten by now, and few people under 30 have ever even played). It was mildly transgressive for its inclusion of pixelated strippers, and had a few fun mechanics (remote trigger pipe bombs?), but otherwise wasn't terribly unique even for its time. Since then, we've seen a glut of much prettier shooting games, with much more refined play in both single and multiplayer. These days, Duke Nukem is a chuckle-inducing byword; what name recognition it has comes from the internet memes mocking its perpetual vaporware status. If it ever is released, I can't imagine buying it, even for its kitsch value.
Re:makes sense by phantomfive · 2010-09-03 08:22 · Score: 1

So, imagine you are a random game company, and you want someone to notice you. You can make a decent game, but that's not enough. You're going to have to launch an advertising campaign, send the game out to all the magazines, and if the magazine editors like it, then maybe it will get a column, if they really like it, maybe they will get something more.

With Duke Nukem, it's guaranteed to get publicity when it's released. Every game magazine will carry it, Penny Arcade will do a comic, it will be on the front page of Slashdot, etc. Everyone is going to want to know if it is any good. That's a kind of publicity that is hard to buy.

From there, it all depends on how good the game is: if it's fun, people will buy it. If it's not, some people will still buy it, but not as many. The company can pretty much guarantee themselves profit by keeping production costs down low, and releasing it even if it's sucky. Even Daikatana sold over 200,000 copies. Hype sells.

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Re:makes sense by KozmoStevnNaut · 2010-09-03 08:29 · Score: 1

It was Duke Nukem originally, but they changed it in version 2.0 because of a possible trademark issue with a comic book character.
It turned out to be a non-issue, so Duke got his original name back with Duke Nukem II.

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Re:makes sense by GrumblyStuff · 2010-09-03 09:16 · Score: 1

"Now say, 'Up and atom!'"
"Up and at them!"
Re:makes sense by zlexiss · 2010-09-03 09:28 · Score: 1

Just like Daikatana!
Re:makes sense by UpnAtom · 2010-09-03 16:00 · Score: 1

It's an 'n', not 'and'.

Bound to get frosty by SmallFurryCreature · 2010-09-03 05:58 · Score: 1

What with hell freezing over and all. Could freeze the balls of even the Duke!

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Re:Bound to get frosty by dgatwood · 2010-09-03 06:42 · Score: 4, Funny

Aaack! Does that mean that soon I'll have to do all those things I said I would do when DNF shipped!?!
*runs away in terror*

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Re:Bound to get frosty by Khyber · 2010-09-03 07:40 · Score: 1

You can't freeze Balls of Steel.

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Re:Bound to get frosty by somersault · 2010-09-03 10:14 · Score: 1

You sure can, but just make sure you don't then lick them.

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Re:Bound to get frosty by nimid · 2010-09-03 23:31 · Score: 1

You're ok; the Statute of Limitations will have kicked in a long time ago.

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Re:Bound to get frosty by gosand · 2010-09-08 05:53 · Score: 1

Hopefully you didn't promise anything like this....

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How to parse by Alarindris · 2010-09-03 06:00 · Score: 1

Duke Nukem: Forever in Development

for consoles? by syrinx · 2010-09-03 06:01 · Score: 1

Were console kiddies even born when the original Duke Nukem games came out?

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Re:for consoles? by bsDaemon · 2010-09-03 06:09 · Score: 1

They weren't even alive when Green Day last released an OK albumn and Kurt Cobain was still alive. Doesn't prevent them from pretending like they know what's up, though.
Re:for consoles? by mcgrew · 2010-09-03 08:38 · Score: 1

Consoles have been around about as long as PCs have, but the original 3 DNs were PC only.

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I'm all out of bubble gum... by GregC63 · 2010-09-03 06:02 · Score: 1

Do NOT tease...

Hope you held on to your preorder receipts! by Lunix+Nutcase · 2010-09-03 06:05 · Score: 4, Interesting

So will that guy with the oldest preorder receipt for DNF actually get GameStop to honor it?

Wow... really? by PixelScuba · 2010-09-03 06:09 · Score: 1

"The approach and investment and process at 3D Realms didn't quite make it..."

Wow... understatement of the decade?

A whole new generation by Scutter · 2010-09-03 06:10 · Score: 1

Heh... I just heard a collective "Duke Who, now?" from all the current gamers who weren't alive when DNF was first announced, much less when the other Duke games were released.

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Bad news everyone! by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-03 06:11 · Score: 2, Funny

It's going to be another Windows-only game!

Memories... by am+2k · 2010-09-03 06:12 · Score: 1

Oh yea, I remember thinking to myself "damn, I probably have to get a new graphics card" when they announced that they've switched to the Unreal engine (version 1 that is), since my current one couldn't handle it.

Those were the times...

is it by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-03 06:14 · Score: 2, Funny

Wait, was that a car analogy?

Re:is it by toygeek · 2010-09-03 07:59 · Score: 1

It'll probably be in 2012. The world is ending then anyway so nobody will notice that they missed the release date again.

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Re:Message from Duke: by RCGodward · 2010-09-03 06:14 · Score: 1

You mean there will be half as much ass kicking in this one?

Does this mean by SnarfQuest · 2010-09-03 06:14 · Score: 1

Does this mean that flying cars are just around the corner?

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YEAH! by Gaian-Orlanthii · 2010-09-03 06:15 · Score: 1

YYYYYEEEEAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!

Duke Nukem MMO by DarthVain · 2010-09-03 06:26 · Score: 1

Meh. I'll wait for Blizzard to make Duke Nukem Online or DNO...

I'll play a stripper with a shrink ray.

Re:Duke Nukem MMO by Khyber · 2010-09-03 07:55 · Score: 1

"I'll play a stripper with a shrink ray."
Shake it, baby!
*stripper blasts guy's penis*
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

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Re:In other Hell News a cold front may be moving i by ArsonSmith · 2010-09-03 06:26 · Score: 1

Does this also mean that 2011 will be the year of linux on the desktop?

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April 1st by pbhogan · 2010-09-03 06:28 · Score: 1

Wahey! April 1st comes early!

I hope the developers are paid... by Rikiji7 · 2010-09-03 06:30 · Score: 1

...by working time and not a fixed amount on project basis!

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Think about the alternative... by thrill12 · 2010-09-03 06:31 · Score: 1

...for the release of Duke Nukem Forever clearly means Hell has frozen over: if Duke Nukem Forever wouldn't be postponed, what would have come of us ! :)

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They should finish it by jandrese · 2010-09-03 06:32 · Score: 1

And release the game on 4/1/2011

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Re:They should finish it by mjwx · 2010-09-05 12:59 · Score: 1

And release the game on 4/1/2011
4th of January 2011?

Are you targeting the post-Christmas sales crowd? I think you're doing it wrong.

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Re:Right......... by capnchicken · 2010-09-03 06:39 · Score: 1

Gameplay footage at PAX:

http://kotaku.com/5629655/your-first-look-at-duke-nukem-forever-in-action

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Dunno why anyone's surprised. by blair1q · 2010-09-03 06:39 · Score: 1

I'm pretty sure that's why they named it that in the first place.

Re:Message from Duke: by Qzukk · 2010-09-03 06:40 · Score: 1

You mean there will be half as much ass kicking in this one?

There'll be exactly as much, but it'll be half-assed kicking.

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"Duke Nukem Forever" back in development - or - by ChronoFish · 2010-09-03 06:45 · Score: 1

"Duke Nukem"
forever back in development

-CF

Ob by Hognoxious · 2010-09-03 06:47 · Score: 1

It was never actually out of development. It was just indefinitely delayed.

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Jumping the gun by roachdabug · 2010-09-03 06:48 · Score: 1

April 1 is still many months away...

Available now... by WED+Fan · 2010-09-03 06:53 · Score: 3, Funny

DNF available now on Phantom consoles.

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Re:Available now... by GrumblyStuff · 2010-09-03 09:08 · Score: 1

Man, that must be a one hell of a crazy alternate reality. Who's the president? Are there aliens? Have the atheistic killbots under the command of Grand Cyborg Hawkings taken over Australia there too?
Re:Available now... by kongit · 2010-09-03 18:49 · Score: 1

Dude its so crazy a black man is president.
Re:Available now... by longhairedgnome · 2010-09-04 06:35 · Score: 1

+1, Funny

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Here it comes by sjames · 2010-09-03 07:01 · Score: 1

It will be released in 2012. The resulting violation of reality itself will so anger the Mayan gods that they'll destroy the Earth, thus fulfilling the prophesy.

Duke's been chewing gum by Dan667 · 2010-09-03 07:02 · Score: 1

and I am pretty sure he has run out of gum by now.

Strangely enough... by backdoc · 2010-09-03 07:06 · Score: 1

We all know that it's the longest running joke and will not happen. Even if it did, it would probably even suck. Knowing all that, I can't help but hope it's true.

Short message from future recieved by elrous0 · 2010-09-03 07:07 · Score: 1

2089. Global cooling turned out to be the problem. Don't elect Jack Peterson. Computer AI still sucks. Plant more soybeans. Still no flying cars or Duke Nuke'em Forever.

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This is like... by gunnarstahl · 2010-09-03 07:07 · Score: 1

Beating. A. Dead. Horse. Successfully...

Re:In other Hell News a cold front may be moving i by ouachiski · 2010-09-03 07:20 · Score: 1

The Saints already won the Super Bowl, now this. it must be an El Niño year in Hell

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Duke Nukem violates SCO's patents by CranberryKing · 2010-09-03 07:22 · Score: 1

it turns out. Lawyers are discussing right now.

Re:Duke Nukem violates SCO's patents by MrEricSir · 2010-09-03 07:35 · Score: 1

No worries, Duke can shrink the lawyers down to the size of bugs, then crush them to death with his feet.

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Sweet! Where can I pre-order? by nswb · 2010-09-03 07:26 · Score: 1

Because by the time it comes out, due to inflation it'll cost several hundred dollars

Still the best game around by SuperKendall · 2010-09-03 07:26 · Score: 1

Generic console FPS game

That describes every other game that came after DN, which was still my favorite FPS of all times.

I look forward to having all that energy finally released into something we can admire, even if some of the ideas might seem dated now. But then what game since has a working shrink ray? It seems there may still be lessons Duke could teach the industry.

I'll be a day one buyer, for good or ill.

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You all need to STFU, IMO by MrEricSir · 2010-09-03 07:32 · Score: 1

Because now that Georgie B. isn't running the development team, this game might actually happen.

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Re:Right......... by jabelli · 2010-09-03 07:32 · Score: 1

This means nothing. We've seen purported footage in 1998, 2001, 2007, and 2008 as well, according to Wikipedia.

playing the game makes you go back in time and tha by Joe+The+Dragon · 2010-09-03 07:35 · Score: 1

playing the game makes you go back in time and that's why it was restated so much people / code started to go missing all the time.

Re:Right......... by mace9984 · 2010-09-03 07:38 · Score: 1

I didn't finish... I'll believe it when I see it... on my tv. :-)

If I go to pre-order it... by Halifax+Samuels · 2010-09-03 07:39 · Score: 1

...will anybody at any game store take me seriously?

The first review... by ayjay29 · 2010-09-03 07:59 · Score: 1

The first is out here.

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oh noes 2012 is going to be the end by Revek · 2010-09-03 08:17 · Score: 1

I predict its release will trigger the end of everything.

"the game it was meant to be" by roc97007 · 2010-09-03 08:18 · Score: 1

> "It's the game it was meant to be."

I hope they don't mean that the way it sounds. Duke Nukem Forever was meant to be cutting edge for 1997.

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Re:"the game it was meant to be" by Lunix+Nutcase · 2010-09-03 08:45 · Score: 1

Then it was meant to be cutting-edge for 1998, then cutting-edge for 2001, then cutting-edge for 2004, then cutting-edge for 2007. Unfortunately they couldn't ever actually make it cutting-edge for any year.

Duke Nukem FOREVER... by gagol · 2010-09-03 08:38 · Score: 1

...in the limbo of development. Chances are we will see the second coming of the Christ before it's released.

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DNF to be released? Yeah, right... by osu-neko · 2010-09-03 09:03 · Score: 1

Next you'll be telling me string theory is testable...

Pull the other one, it's got bells on it!

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DNF is actually complete by SEE · 2010-09-03 09:08 · Score: 1

All they need to ship is for Harlan Ellison to finish the manual. Ellison's reported that it'll be done any day now; it's second on his to-do list, right after The Last Dangerous Visions.

I got an advanced copy by istartedi · 2010-09-03 09:32 · Score: 1

I got an advanced copy, here's a preview

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When will it release for the iPad 3D? by WillAffleckUW · 2010-09-03 09:36 · Score: 1

Just wondering, cause the 3D effects on that with the Nintendo licensed 3D tech are amazing. ....

um, why did all the DNF devs suddenly go back to their cubes?

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OTOH by Gazzonyx · 2010-09-03 10:01 · Score: 1

OTOH, it might be another Diakatana.

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success... by Zecheus · 2010-09-03 10:13 · Score: 1

Gearbox should continue to unrelease it to keep the legend alive.

My Babbage's Pre-order by Audiophyle · 2010-09-03 10:23 · Score: 1

I wonder...

I always found it amusing... by Krokus · 2010-09-03 10:48 · Score: 1

... that in sports, DNF stands for Did Not Finish.

April Fool's Joke for a Bona-Fide release by Duggeek · 2010-09-03 19:04 · Score: 1

You know, if they could make the actual release date on April 1st it would be rather funny. NOBODY would believe the press releases :-)

Ha-HAH!

Beautiful irony.

Make it so.

Hitch your Wagon to Rakudo Star by jonadab · 2010-09-03 19:59 · Score: 1

Well, Rakudo Star came out a few weeks ago, and apart from the inexplicably weird choice of name it's basically the first ready-for-actual-use Perl 6 release we've been waiting for ever since the Apocalypse articles started coming out some ten years ago. Honestly, for a while there I wasn't sure whether Perl 6 or Duke Nukem Forever would come out first, but now that Rakudo Star is out, DNF can't be far behind!

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It's slipping already by mpsmps · 2010-09-04 02:39 · Score: 1

The summary quotes the last paragraph of the article as saying

The game is currently expected to ship in 2010 although given its history Pitchford is understandably reluctant to be more specific.

but now the article says

The game is currently expected to ship in 2011 although given its history Pitchford is understandably reluctant to be more specific.

YES!! by SilasMortimer · 2010-09-04 03:37 · Score: 1

I'm not a man to let himself be fooled any more than 17 times, but I know this time it's for real!

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No by The+Creator · 2010-09-04 04:57 · Score: 1

But if they actually release the game you'll be able to buy a flying sled pulled by pigs.

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2010/2011? by DaVince21 · 2010-09-04 22:17 · Score: 1

seems like it's finally going to be released by Gearbox Software sometime within the next year.

The game is currently expected to ship in 2010

Contradictions in the release date already!

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Game Requirements by pinkushun · 2010-09-05 23:53 · Score: 1

There's no need to upgrade your PC for this, I hear the engine is based on hardware from 1997 when it all started.

PAX by Hassman · 2010-09-07 13:12 · Score: 1

Wow. All the comments and not one about how this was revealed and playable at PAX? For shame!

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Re:Right......... by capnchicken · 2010-09-08 06:05 · Score: 1

Learn the difference between teasers, trailers, and publicly playable demos.

Here is Ars' compilation of those things you mentioned:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/09/the-death-and-rebirth-of-duke-nukem-forever-a-history.ars

Which is not what was at PAX

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