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Chinese Firm Approved To Raise World's Tallest Building In 90 Days
kkleiner writes "The long anticipated Chinese construction project called Sky City, a 220-story building that can house 30,000 people, has finally received approval from the central government to break ground. The firm Broad Sustainable Building previously constructed a prefab 30-story building in 15 days, but for Sky City, they have an even more aggressive schedule: 90 days to build 2,750 feet into the air. Once completed, the building will be a place for people to both live and work, with recreational facilities, theaters, a school, and a hospital all within the structure."
Hey, that is 10 days less than it takes BBC to fix a clock on their homepage :)
...a few seconds to collapse!
talks about that sort of building...
Falls down in 90 seconds.
And if anyone thinks I'm being unfair they should read up on the safety compromises chinese railways made in the rush to build high speed lines in record time.
This makes me think of an arcology. All that it's missing is a few floors dedicated to high-efficiency hydroponic food production and its own power generation. Throw in massive corporations having more power than the government, complete with private militaries, and we'll have our own cyberpunk dystopia.
Is something to be wary of.
Since it is such a high-profile building, I suggest they put the government into it. Into the highest stories, of course, something below that would not do. And of course the government officials also get to live in the building, in the stories just below the government offices.
This is history in the making, humanity's first hive city. Glory to the Emperor!
Shouldn't they work on filling those empty cities before they build more stuff? Or maybe reduce pollution?
The inhabitat story linked to in the prior post was written a year ago (with plans to be constructed by end of January 2013). So they are still covering at least some bases not rushing through for an arbitrary deadline.
I guess we'll just have to wait and find out!
I've seen my fair share of bad ideas over my life, but this has got to be up there with the worst of them.
The Fine Article is a full year old. On October 17 2012 the very same source reported that the firm revised its plans, pointing to a more reasonable (but still very short) 210 days construction time. http://inhabitat.com/worlds-tallest-skyscraper-to-be-built-in-210-days-instead-of-90-as-originally-planned/
Nuffsaid
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Don't know about his cat, but Schroedinger is definitely dead.
but you know what? last night i went to Lowe's and asked this guy how to fix it. Fortunately my wife speaks spanish, so she was able to install a new faucet in about 3 days.
take that, China.
I realise that many /. readers are from the US, but out of politeness to the rest of the world, it would have been nice to provide metric units in the summary in addition to the imperial units. Yes, I can go and convert them and so can others, but such accumulated waste of time could have been easily avoided.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City could probably be called an earlier example of that
That's about $65/sq ft, somewhere around the cheapest US cities or Berlin. Most Asian and European cities are far more expensive. So, these kinds of building may make sense. I'd worry about maintenance, crime, and long-term value, though.
Nah. Fill the whole damn building with them. The lower floors will be just as lethal whether this pancakes, shears, or tips over.
I am not one to wish ill on anyone, but the Chinese will have this one coming to them. Their lust for speed and the need to "wow the world with superior Chinese methodology" will ultimately fall around their ears. They may be building cities and building at break-neck speed, but a lot of their infrastructure is rotten to the core. My prediction? The failure of their bullet train was just a glimpse of the future. I see a lot more failure from their corrupt business practices. Couple this with the social unrest of the one-child per family, resulting in 30 million unmarried men, and you have the fodder stimulating a revolution.
that it looks awful flimsy, you'll probably hear every footstep and toilet flush...
I found it very hard to google the average foot size, so i converted it for you all to see.
Hivemind harvest in progress..
The modular construction technique is pretty impressive, and while it would be great for shorter buildings I'm having my doubts as to its effectiveness in a skyscraper. Also while the structure looks pretty robust the facade, walls and flooring look a little flimsy and may not stand the test of time/usage.
There are two kinds of failure. The failure of ambitious dreams that maybe we'll see in china. And the never ending failure of the miserable cynical bastards in the west who never open their mouths but to whine about how terrible everything is. People so fundamentally opposed to a better world tomorrow that the highest political ambition is austerity (both economic and environmental).
You want to talk about rotten infrastructure and social unrest? Let's see where another ten years of politicians "saving money" get's you.
build 2,750 feet into the air
"the building will be a place for people to both live and work, with recreational facilities, theaters, a school, and a hospital all within the structure.
But no sunshine or trees. Oh right, squinty-eyed people don't require that to "live".
Can Maxis sue Broad Sustainable Building for prior art?
...
(yes I know Maxis didn't come up with arcologies, it's a joke)
Is it really cynical to say "Look, corner cutting in the name of big name projects is well documented. I worry this will end very poorly."?
Or are you just trying to make yourself feel superior?
What could go wrong?
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"Look, corner cutting in the name of big name projects is well documented. I worry this will end very poorly."?
Corner cutting is exactly how this thing could succeed! It could be a cylinder!
You're not the only one that thinks so. From TFA:
Head of Structures for WSP Middle East, Bart Leclercq, told Middle East Architect, “I don’t think it’s possible to build [an 838m tower] as quickly as they claim. If they manage to build this structure in three months then I will give up structural engineering. I will hang my hat and retire. I will be eating humble pie as well.”
Leclercq likes the idea of prefabrication but says concrete poured onsite in tall buildings provides stiffness, and the time it takes concrete to cure is non-negotiable. He thinks the five-year mark set by the Burj Khalifa is about as good as it gets with current techniques and technologies.
Five years to build with current technology?
The Empire State Building in New York was built in 14 months.
Maybe they should look at using 1930's technology.
I'm more sorry for all the 1 375 Chinese that will have their feet severed to
build 2,750 feet into the air
I see what you did there.
Couple this with the social unrest of the one-child per family, resulting in 30 million unmarried men [blogspot.com], and you have the fodder stimulating a revolution.
How is the imbalance caused by the one-child per family policy? It was caused by the selective abortion by short-sighted people who thought that having an unmarried male heir is better than a married female heir (either that or they thought that they were the only people with the genius idea of making sure they'd have a son)
Other points - spot on.
You still think China is a communist nation de facto and not just in name only? Awww that's *adorable*
This is just the frame of the building, not total completion. If they are using prefab components, while aggressive, i don't see a fundamental problem with the timeline.
"I am not one to wish ill on anyone, but the Americans will have this one coming to them. Their lust for speed and the need to "wow the world with superior US methodology" will ultimately fall around their ears."
See how silly and downright offensive it sounds now?
You still think China is a communist nation de facto and not just in name only?
What matters is that China still has an authoritarian non-representative government. Their economic system is another issue. What they choose to call their political or economic systems is utterly unimportant.
And how right it sounds?
towering inferno 2.0? it's china they may just cut corners and safety.
Why do you think it will take them the full 90 days before it collapses?
Also, if the building is 838 meters tall, it will only take 13 seconds for the top of the building to hit fresh rubble, not accounting for the terminal velocity of a huge concrete block.
The Chinese are knowing for being quick and cheap, but unfortunately their quality is known to be lo grade as well. I won't be going into that building.
How is the imbalance caused by the one-child per family policy?
How do you carry on your family name with a female heir? If you could have two kids you could have a girl and still have a chance at a boy with your next kid. Maybe you would get lucky and have a boy the second time. A member of one of our local ethnic groups was complaining to me how he has no kids just 8 daughters and when he dies his family is gone since he is the last male in his family. You forget not everyone has your cultural values.
Tallest building in the world? Sounds like they come up short in other areas!
Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
No, no I don't. When is the last time there was any speed in any major project in the U.S? One World Trade Center has taken 6 years and the interior won't be completed until late this year/early next year. Doing things right is always better than fast. There is no offense to be taken. The fact is the construction industry in China is akin to the Wild West(East?) of the late 1800s in the U.S. Then it was mostly wood and brick, very basic. Today in China it is concrete with very little architectural design effort put forth to either the exterior or interior. We won't even get started on the construction safety practices. It is was it is. In the end my prediction is it will be a very tall concrete/steel structure. It will basically be an oversized Sears Tower(Willis Tower) by the looks of it. Design was an afterthought for the Sears Tower as well.
Yes having a choice between Obama and Bush is much much better! China is a 1 party state, the USA is a "two" party state where both parties basically do exactly the same thing.
The folks from Extreme Makeover Home Edition try to raise a house in like a week or whatever and they always have to come back and fix their shoddy work. All the water, heat, and electrical is crap. They use fast-drying concrete that cracks and it's generally one big, fake disaster. THAT has an American building permit and inspection too by the way! I can't wait to see this Chinese piece of crap fall over.
In China they can build faster because they don't install fire exits.
Proverbs 21:19
I assume it will also have at least one police station?
Duh. With such a big difference in male/female numbers in china i'm sure they will eventually figure out the girls could actually keep their own names, and make the boys change theirs. If they don't change, let them end their line alone. I'm sure there will be enough men who agree to take another name to get laid.
Other than that, 30 million men without he possibility to find a companion has pretty much always resulted in a chaos and wars.
....Also in related news, the building will have its own airport with new supersonic passenger jets, its own train station with maglev HSR, and a new autobahn-style highway with a 300km/hr speed limit.
;)
And a new nuclear reactor built-in to provide the electricity for it all.
I think the current chinese system is one of a kind. I'm pretty certain they don't have a family line heritage system. It's also not just one tyrannical leader. It's almost as if they just skipped one step ahead of US, and only have one party, where US still has two (no, them inor parties don't count here).
You know we were pretty lucky tonight, body count's less then 200. You know, one of these days, you're gonna kill 10,000 in one of these firetraps, and I'm gonna keep eating smoke and carrying out bodies until someone asks us... how to build them.
Why so long?! Too slow!! Taking so long bring great shame to family!! You do it in 30 day!!
See Robert Silverberg's "The World Inside", about humanity concentrated in near-wholly self-contained skyscrapers.
Well, apparently, you only have to fool the majority of people for a little while.
Look at this video of their "ghost cities" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPILhiTJv7E
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Yes if they'd only split their Communist Party into red and blue teams with minor ideological differences, and give lip service to the people's needs while clearly indicating that they give no fucks through their actions, they could be brought up to US standards of freedom and democracy.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Yes having a choice between Obama and Bush is much much better! China is a 1 party state, the USA is a "two" party state where both parties basically do exactly the same thing.
Your point is well taken, but so far there's still worlds of difference between China and the USA.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
This isn't a rhetorical question. I really want to know. AFAIK in the US you have to have plans drawn before you build, so building time is actual building; but plans are sometimes changed even during building, right? How much do they fudge that to the point where "building" is actually planning and building? Now the WTC replacement took a really long time; but most of it was arguing.
Have the Chinese cut out all the arguing and decided that they won't modify plans during construction even if they should?
I'm inclined to think "no". If I had to come up with a plan to erect a skyscraper in 90 days, I'd design one prefab box that could be stacked N high, and I'd stack them. I'd base the "box" design on an entire previous building, just stronger. Having seen renderings of the proposed structure, it looks like that's what they did.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
Japan had plans to build crazy "arcologies" like this in the late '80s-early '90s, just before their real estate market cratered hard.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
China needs cheap living solutions in mass. I wonder what the cost averages to, how much resources it saves, and how durable it is. How well will it withstand earthquakes? Are they cutting any corners? I guess I hope it's safe. I've heard that it gets inefficient to build so far up at some point, but I suppose if it can be done well I'm all for it. Is this in part a solution to crowding? Is that part of the sell here? If so, I wonder would Buckminster Fuller would think?
How do you carry on your family name with a female heir?
By not supporting archaic social customs that suggest males are superior to females and are the only way to extend your family legacy.
You forget not everyone has your cultural values
Right, some of us believe in equality.
Apparently wizard is not a legitimate career path, so I chose programmer instead.
Couple this with the social unrest of the one-child per family, resulting in 30 million unmarried men, and you have the fodder stimulating a revolution.
Revolution, or war with Taiwan / US.
As soon as they figure out how to move a couple million guys across the water fast. Look out.
You say that, but it's been less than ten years since we finished sequencing the human genome, and we currently have a robot on Mars. Yes, there are forces in the West pushing for overseas corporations and CEOs to have a few million dollars more even if it means shutting down NASA. Yes they've been making some progress in cutting back OUR progress. And yes, I wish we would build killer robots to tear them limb from limb. But they're not winning. And China has those people too.
Razing a building only takes a couple of hours :)
Eh? "never ending failure of the miserable cynical bastards in the west"?
What sort of alter reality / history is this?
Isn't 30k what the initial arcology in SC2K weighed in at population-wise?
Finally! The chinese have arcologies available ahead of schedule! Now if only we can get microwave power plants and soon after fusion ones!
That's right. They have better food.
Although they're coming down to our level.
KFC! KFC! KFC!
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
"We received a note from the Council saying that if we ceased to believe in this building it would fall down"
Hmm, you are oversimplifying, but it is a common plague.
If you read people like Schor, who happened to predict a whole lot of what is happening right now, you will note that ambition is not that of austerity, but of plenitude.
Granted, you may be speaking strictly of political ambitions.
Or 15 million gay couples. That would help solve a tiny percentage of their overpopulation.
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This type of structure is considered to be an Arcology.
"Arcology, a portmanteau of the words "architecture" and "ecology", is a set of architectural design principles aimed toward the design of enormous habitats"
http://www.bookdrum.com/books/neuromancer/9780441012039/glossary.html
My first exposure to the word and concept of Arcology/Arcologies was with [William Gibson's novel Neuromancer in 1984]. But thanks to gp poster (Bruce66423) and parent poster (YuppieScum) I now know about the earlier use of the word and concept in [Larry Niven's 1981 novel "Oath of Fealty"].
Oath of Fealty (1981) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_Fealty_(novel)
Neuromancer (1984) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromancer
* 'Oath of Fealty' looks really good, I'm tracking it down to buy it now! Again, thanks to Bruce66423 and YuppieScum for this discovery.
But without corners in the cardinal directions, how will they properly control the Feng Shui of the place?
They need a life sized iron statue of a previous emperor in eastern corner with a 1m wide deep red carpeted pathway surrounded by broad leaf potted plants with an exit out a SW door to direct the flow of "Get blown up by meteors" energy out of the building.
A cylinder would leak Strength energies all over the place, making the obviously superior Chinese concrete as weak and brittle as worthless non-Chinese concrete and dooming it to fail like any other non-Chinese product. Just ask any government official.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!
How do you carry on your family name with a female heir?
By not supporting archaic social customs that suggest males are superior to females and are the only way to extend your family legacy.
So then the family with the Male heir loses out?
Hyphenate? Sure that's sustainable, generations later:
"Mr. I-have-a-long-hypenated-name-because-how-dare-one-gender-take-another's-name"
How do you carry on your family name with a female heir?
By making sure your daughter marries another Lee?
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Chuuch. Preach. Tabernacle.
"But they're not winning."
I'd love to believe that. But it's difficult to ignore the cynicism resulting from a lifetime of observation of the actual world.
Like most Chinese products.
Arcology also appears as part of the backstory in "The Digital Effect", by Steve Perry. Improper building materials lead to an arcology's collapse.
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But, will it be as interesting to look at as the prefab housing built in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, for Expo 67?
http://www.dwell.com/essay/article/prefab-decade
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A half mile high OK in 90 days OK. lol
It's not a suggestion that male names are superior, it's a means to strengthen familial bonds.
A primary result (intended or otherwise) of couples has always been reproduction.
The lineage of the Mother is never in doubt.
If the father has his name attached to said resulting offspring, and the assurances of the Mother that the child is his, he will usually accept that it is and help support both the child and the mother. Otherwise, there is a much lower rate of acceptance and fathers (or possible fathers) will leave them claiming it's another males child.
Strangely enough, this has been studied. I read a science article on it about a month or two ago.
No, I am not a sociologist or anything, but the info is out there, you just have to look for it.
The progress does not happen by politicians spending money but by private entrepreneurs having the freedom from oppressive taxation and regulation to take risks and innovate. The stagnation in the west is happening not because of austerity programs by the government but because of the excessive obsession with safety and fear of taking risks. The Oakland bridge eastern span replacement cost was $6 billion and took 11 years. Chinese put up bigger and better bridges than that for 2 years and $300 million.
Negative moral value of force outweighs the positive value of good intentions.
You only have a choice between Obama and Bush at the end of a very long and involved process of vetting and primaries that is reasonably democratic, although many people do not participate out of laziness and ignorance. It would be ridiculous to have 50 presidential candidates in the general election. You start with 50 but they get narrowed down to 2. I would personally prefer 3 but not more than that.
Negative moral value of force outweighs the positive value of good intentions.
Not all of us see things as shallow and vainly as you do. I know it is not about saving money and that the problems are much deeper and have more depth than "who particularly is in office". No accountability, greed, corporate corruption, a caste system that no one is willing to admit. Unfair hiring practices. Individuals living above their means. Heck the banks have a lot of incentive to give out loans and mortgages that my fail because they need to make a profit "now" and grow faster than the other banks etc...
This short paragraph above is just a tiny slice of what can be said. No one is willing to say it all and the ones that will go into great detail (conspiracy theorists) get flamed. The people with the capability to filter out the non-factual information and put it all together wont. Because its tantamount to committing suicide. And they are very happy making 90,000 plus a year.
Than we have a whole nother segment of society that thinks everyone needs credentials and certifications etc...
No our society and culture is fucked. We need to go back to the Bushido code + the freedom that anarchy brings and fix things.
Either that or just buck it up and make the Peacekeeper force that is depicted in "Farscape". I vote for the former. My resume is shit.
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This "Sky City" concept seems all nice on paper. But remember, humans will be living in it.
Hyphenate? Sure that's sustainable, generations later:
"Mr. I-have-a-long-hypenated-name-because-how-dare-one-gender-take-another's-name"
You don't know any middle eastern people, do you?
An enigma, wrapped in a riddle, shrouded in bacon and cheese
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Table-ized A.I.
Apparently, it's of adequate building standard in the region.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_drywall
I would be really scared to be near this building- much less in it.
They need to require that any suppliers spend time in the building after it is finished.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
They are working on it. The scale of their naval ramp-up is pretty insane.
You only have a choice between Obama and Bush at the end of a very long and involved process of vetting and primaries that is reasonably democratic, although many people do not participate out of laziness and ignorance. It would be ridiculous to have 50 presidential candidates in the general election. You start with 50 but they get narrowed down to 2. I would personally prefer 3 but not more than that.
You are completely missing the point. Your primary system enforces a two party system. You can only declare yourself as a Republican, Democrat or Independent full stop.
Instead of primaries, other countries elect their party leaders at political conventions. The public "election" is held later which I think is a more sensible system. I also think it is a bit idiotic that state officials are involved in the federal election and that you elect everyone in one big election night.
In Canada, we have separate election schedules for provincial and federal elections, we have multiple parties running and elections are handled by independent non-partisan organizations for the provincial and federal elections. For the Federal election, there is Elections Canada and for the Provincial election, there is an elections . We do not use voting machines but rather a simple paper ballot where you mark and X by the candidate you want to represent your riding.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
All of that has been made irrelevant by paternity tests.
Apparently wizard is not a legitimate career path, so I chose programmer instead.
You do realize china has built entire cities that sit unused and falling apart. China regularly fails to understand people and builds infrastructure first and then tries to find people to use it.
i thought once I was found, but it was only a dream.
You are completely missing the point. Your primary system enforces a two party system. You can only declare yourself as a Republican, Democrat or Independent full stop
Not true. you can register as a Libertarian, or a member of any party. There is no legal reason why a third party cannot be more successful in the US. It is a different issue that our political and media elites who set the political agenda have been convinced that a two party system is more stable and it is the problem for the Libertarians and other parties to convince them otherwise. Btw, I find it amusing that Canadians always express such exaggerated confidence in the fundamentally undemocratic first-past-the-post political system they inherited from UK. Inferiority complex?
Negative moral value of force outweighs the positive value of good intentions.
So instead of hyphenating the parents, we put in both the parent's first names AND the last name as well? (remember the original discussion was about the females 'losing' their name, something not brought up in the Arab Family Naming Convention)
So:
"Mr. John son Mary and Steve who are the son and daughter of Bob and Betty and Jack and Wendy respectively"
Yes much better
I'll point again to the human genome project and the mars rovers as clear examples of how we are winning overall. Look at the dark ages, or the taliban rule in Afghanistan for examples of when "they" win. It could be much better, but the forces of ignorance and greed aren't winning.
Sounds like you need to move. It's all sunshine and rainbows in MY part of the West. Gonna go kick it by my pool now. cu
One of my favorite things I saw while visiting china was election posters.
What exactly is an "election" for when there is only one party anyhow?
You are completely missing the point. Your primary system enforces a two party system. You can only declare yourself as a Republican, Democrat or Independent full stop.
Not quite that simple. Primaries are run by the parties. Each party has their own systems for each state. Some are primaries, and some are a caucus. Each state has different laws dealing with how these are handled. Some let them do their thing, some bind everything together at the same time. IIRC, most that deal with it at the state level are not tied to the two parties but to the amount of votes that any given party got the prior year. The realpolitik is that we have a two party system that makes it extremely hard for any other party to come in (but this has happened and does happen about every 20 years with one of the old main parties dying about every hundred) but in reality, there are many parties, divided up between at least fifty state organizations each all operating under different state laws.
There's no legal reason, but there's a big practical reason, and it's the way the presidential election works. Since it's one eelction, winner takes all, you get that "if I don't vote for one of the two main parties, I'm just throwing my vote away" feel.
The structure of the elections directly leads to a two-party system.
One time I threw a brick at a duck.
Look, you implied that combining surnames was not sustainable long term; so, I presented an example of a culture in which combining surnames has been sustainable for a long time.
Maybe it would work for western nations, maybe it wouldn't, but that's non sequitur in regard to my response.
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Even more idiots who don't know what an apostrophe is for?
Instead of primaries, other countries elect their party leaders at political conventions ... which I think is a more sensible system.
Why is it more sensible? The US used to use that system, but it was abandoned because in practice it meant that candidates were chosen by party bosses. Our primary/caucus system is far from perfect (e.g. why does Iowa go first?) but it's still an improvement because members of a party have some say in who the candidates will be,
I also think it is a bit idiotic that ... you elect everyone in one big election night.
Why? To me it's a convenience to only go to the polls once. What advantage is there to having separate election days?
We do not use voting machines but rather a simple paper ballot where you mark ...
You mean like I do when I vote?
Your point is well taken, but so far there's still worlds of difference between China and the USA.
Of course you're right. Of course you probably also anticipated the kind of pseudo-sophisticated adolescent nihilist responses you got so many of.
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You are completely missing the point. Your primary system enforces a two party system. You can only declare yourself as a Republican, Democrat or Independent full stop.
Not quite that simple. Primaries are run by the parties. Each party has their own systems for each state. Some are primaries, and some are a caucus. Each state has different laws dealing with how these are handled. Some let them do their thing, some bind everything together at the same time. IIRC, most that deal with it at the state level are not tied to the two parties but to the amount of votes that any given party got the prior year. The realpolitik is that we have a two party system that makes it extremely hard for any other party to come in (but this has happened and does happen about every 20 years with one of the old main parties dying about every hundred) but in reality, there are many parties, divided up between at least fifty state organizations each all operating under different state laws.
There is your problem right there. The state laws should play no part in a FEDERAL election of the US president, US senate or US congress. The state government should have no say in how the US election is handled there. You should have an independent agency handling the US election and independent agencies in each state handling state elections.
Look at what happened in florida in previous elections, the state government interfered with the US presidential election. They should have no involvement at all.
That is not to say that state parties could not canvas/help their federal candidate counterparts but there should be some clear separation between the State government and the US election process.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
There are actually large empty towns in China because the wealth is actually disproportionate there and there are rich people who own property just because that is the only way to gain wealth. Money gets taken. But they can have their empty towns. Communism fail.
https://www.google.com/search?q=empty+chinese+towns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=rnmxUbHtDbGg4AOM7IHABA&ved=0CCoQsAQ&biw=1201&bih=814
http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1975397_2094492,00.html
http://www.news.com.au/business/china-building-mega-cities-but-they-remain-empty-sparking-fears-of-housing-bubble-burst/story-e6frfm1i-1226611169281
So you guys might not have to worry. People may never inhabit this structure. It might be purely for vanity.
A bit more info: These construction projects are between 20 and 30% of the economy and the people paying for these properties to be built could loose big time if they don't get filled. Poor people are being moved into them (for example Ordos, Inner Mongolia) but they cannot afford the equivalent 100,000 USD price. Ordos is supposed to be able to house 1 million people.
There's also the Spanish method. Take a friend of mine from university who had the best name I ever heard: Fernando Hernandez Fernandez Hernandez. Sounds great when you say it quickly. Anyway, I digress.
He explained that the children take three family names: The father's first family name, then the mother's first family name, and then the father's second family name.
So Fernando's father was ? Hernandez Hernandez ?, and his mother was ? Fernandez ? ?
There you go, a western culture that manages the job pretty well.
-1, Racist
I'd mod that down to turn it into +1, Funny. It's like making fun of English people called Smith, and Germans called Mayer. I once saw an advertisement in a London bus (I can't remember who paid for it, maybe the humane society). It read "If you can't make a joke about it, it can't be taken seriously".
"You can do anything you set your mind to when you have vision, determination, and an endless supply of expendable labor." http://www.despair.com/achievement.html
His cultural values are bad and he should feel bad
What is the definition of "build?" The modules are pre-built elsewhere, and this takes longer than 30 days. Also, how much finishing work needs to be done after the building is topped off? But if they succeed, it will still be impressive.
What if future generations lack the skills, knowledge, physical/natural resources, ____, et cetera to support the infrastructure we build?
Here you go:
NIST Releases Final WTC 7 Investigation Report
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
That's 1/2 mile high!
> 30 million unmarried men
Or, ya know, externalize the surplus... Start some wars.
Look at the current gender demographics of Russia for an example of what happens to the ratios after 50+ years of conscription into un-winable, and under supported military conflicts.
Sucks to be the rest of the world if China pursues such an approach. They can throw an insane amount of 'man-power' at just about anything now... I'm sure that makes their neighbors kind of nervous.
They don't need to - they sold that bucket of horse shit to some idiot in California several years ago.
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