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Chinese Firm Approved To Raise World's Tallest Building In 90 Days
kkleiner writes "The long anticipated Chinese construction project called Sky City, a 220-story building that can house 30,000 people, has finally received approval from the central government to break ground. The firm Broad Sustainable Building previously constructed a prefab 30-story building in 15 days, but for Sky City, they have an even more aggressive schedule: 90 days to build 2,750 feet into the air. Once completed, the building will be a place for people to both live and work, with recreational facilities, theaters, a school, and a hospital all within the structure."
Hey, that is 10 days less than it takes BBC to fix a clock on their homepage :)
talks about that sort of building...
Falls down in 90 seconds.
And if anyone thinks I'm being unfair they should read up on the safety compromises chinese railways made in the rush to build high speed lines in record time.
Is something to be wary of.
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And to put the icing on the cake we equip everything with cameras and broadcast the thing live and we have the first ever cyberpunk reality series!!! Awesome!!
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Shouldn't they work on filling those empty cities before they build more stuff? Or maybe reduce pollution?
The inhabitat story linked to in the prior post was written a year ago (with plans to be constructed by end of January 2013). So they are still covering at least some bases not rushing through for an arbitrary deadline.
The Fine Article is a full year old. On October 17 2012 the very same source reported that the firm revised its plans, pointing to a more reasonable (but still very short) 210 days construction time. http://inhabitat.com/worlds-tallest-skyscraper-to-be-built-in-210-days-instead-of-90-as-originally-planned/
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I realise that many /. readers are from the US, but out of politeness to the rest of the world, it would have been nice to provide metric units in the summary in addition to the imperial units. Yes, I can go and convert them and so can others, but such accumulated waste of time could have been easily avoided.
It is supposed to explode first, I think.
http://www.fiveeightforums.com/threads/list-of-things-in-china-that-explode.90930/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City could probably be called an earlier example of that
That's about $65/sq ft, somewhere around the cheapest US cities or Berlin. Most Asian and European cities are far more expensive. So, these kinds of building may make sense. I'd worry about maintenance, crime, and long-term value, though.
Nah. Fill the whole damn building with them. The lower floors will be just as lethal whether this pancakes, shears, or tips over.
I am not one to wish ill on anyone, but the Chinese will have this one coming to them. Their lust for speed and the need to "wow the world with superior Chinese methodology" will ultimately fall around their ears. They may be building cities and building at break-neck speed, but a lot of their infrastructure is rotten to the core. My prediction? The failure of their bullet train was just a glimpse of the future. I see a lot more failure from their corrupt business practices. Couple this with the social unrest of the one-child per family, resulting in 30 million unmarried men, and you have the fodder stimulating a revolution.
Reminds me of the Shanghai building collapse where a whole building fell over on its side.
http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2009/06/29/shanghai-building-collapses-nearly-intact/
...a few seconds to collapse!
Prefab blocks, erected on site, what could possibly go wrong?
I found it very hard to google the average foot size, so i converted it for you all to see.
Hivemind harvest in progress..
Sounds about as safe as nailing cables into the ice walls on Hoth.
"Wait. Something's happening. It's opening up! My God, it's full of apricots!"
The modular construction technique is pretty impressive, and while it would be great for shorter buildings I'm having my doubts as to its effectiveness in a skyscraper. Also while the structure looks pretty robust the facade, walls and flooring look a little flimsy and may not stand the test of time/usage.
There are two kinds of failure. The failure of ambitious dreams that maybe we'll see in china. And the never ending failure of the miserable cynical bastards in the west who never open their mouths but to whine about how terrible everything is. People so fundamentally opposed to a better world tomorrow that the highest political ambition is austerity (both economic and environmental).
You want to talk about rotten infrastructure and social unrest? Let's see where another ten years of politicians "saving money" get's you.
build 2,750 feet into the air
Can Maxis sue Broad Sustainable Building for prior art?
...
(yes I know Maxis didn't come up with arcologies, it's a joke)
Is it really cynical to say "Look, corner cutting in the name of big name projects is well documented. I worry this will end very poorly."?
Or are you just trying to make yourself feel superior?
What could go wrong?
"Look, corner cutting in the name of big name projects is well documented. I worry this will end very poorly."?
Corner cutting is exactly how this thing could succeed! It could be a cylinder!
This is exactly what i'm worried will happen. The building itself is well built from what i can see, but you can't prefab a foundation, and a real foundation takes time.
Lots of American shit fell down too. Lots of European shit as well. China just gets more publicity because the narrative is that everything made in China is a cheap knock-off of some western product that inevitably crashes and burns.
China has a poor safety record. So does everyone else, at least historically. That's one of the reasons why they call them developing economies.
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You're not the only one that thinks so. From TFA:
Head of Structures for WSP Middle East, Bart Leclercq, told Middle East Architect, “I don’t think it’s possible to build [an 838m tower] as quickly as they claim. If they manage to build this structure in three months then I will give up structural engineering. I will hang my hat and retire. I will be eating humble pie as well.”
Leclercq likes the idea of prefabrication but says concrete poured onsite in tall buildings provides stiffness, and the time it takes concrete to cure is non-negotiable. He thinks the five-year mark set by the Burj Khalifa is about as good as it gets with current techniques and technologies.
Five years to build with current technology?
The Empire State Building in New York was built in 14 months.
Maybe they should look at using 1930's technology.
Couple this with the social unrest of the one-child per family, resulting in 30 million unmarried men [blogspot.com], and you have the fodder stimulating a revolution.
How is the imbalance caused by the one-child per family policy? It was caused by the selective abortion by short-sighted people who thought that having an unmarried male heir is better than a married female heir (either that or they thought that they were the only people with the genius idea of making sure they'd have a son)
Other points - spot on.
There is a difference between a building collapsing because it was the first of it's kind 100 years ago and a building collapsing because the inspector was paid off by the guy selling substandard cement, 100 years after the materials and architectural engineering have been worked out. There were some high-profile crane collapses in Manhattan in the past few years that demonstrate stupidity and corruption if you want a US example.
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You still think China is a communist nation de facto and not just in name only?
What matters is that China still has an authoritarian non-representative government. Their economic system is another issue. What they choose to call their political or economic systems is utterly unimportant.
The building itself is well built from what i can see, but you can't prefab a foundation, and a real foundation takes time.
IANASE (I am not a structural engineer) but there is serious concern about prefab for something this height. FTA:
Head of Structures for WSP Middle East, Bart Leclercq ... likes the idea of prefabrication but says concrete poured onsite in tall buildings provides stiffness, and the time it takes concrete to cure is non-negotiable. He thinks the five-year mark set by the Burj Khalifa is about as good as it gets with current techniques and technologies.
I'd be very interested to hear from anyone here who has expertise in concrete.
Prefab sections can be very strong, and as long as the connections are strong, then the building will stand. But i do agree, the concrete curing will be the main issue.
towering inferno 2.0? it's china they may just cut corners and safety.
Why do you think it will take them the full 90 days before it collapses?
Also, if the building is 838 meters tall, it will only take 13 seconds for the top of the building to hit fresh rubble, not accounting for the terminal velocity of a huge concrete block.
Tallest building in the world? Sounds like they come up short in other areas!
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The folks from Extreme Makeover Home Edition try to raise a house in like a week or whatever and they always have to come back and fix their shoddy work. All the water, heat, and electrical is crap. They use fast-drying concrete that cracks and it's generally one big, fake disaster. THAT has an American building permit and inspection too by the way! I can't wait to see this Chinese piece of crap fall over.
In China they can build faster because they don't install fire exits.
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I assume it will also have at least one police station?
....Also in related news, the building will have its own airport with new supersonic passenger jets, its own train station with maglev HSR, and a new autobahn-style highway with a 300km/hr speed limit.
;)
And a new nuclear reactor built-in to provide the electricity for it all.
See Robert Silverberg's "The World Inside", about humanity concentrated in near-wholly self-contained skyscrapers.
Well, apparently, you only have to fool the majority of people for a little while.
Look at this video of their "ghost cities" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPILhiTJv7E
Yes if they'd only split their Communist Party into red and blue teams with minor ideological differences, and give lip service to the people's needs while clearly indicating that they give no fucks through their actions, they could be brought up to US standards of freedom and democracy.
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Yes having a choice between Obama and Bush is much much better! China is a 1 party state, the USA is a "two" party state where both parties basically do exactly the same thing.
Your point is well taken, but so far there's still worlds of difference between China and the USA.
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This isn't a rhetorical question. I really want to know. AFAIK in the US you have to have plans drawn before you build, so building time is actual building; but plans are sometimes changed even during building, right? How much do they fudge that to the point where "building" is actually planning and building? Now the WTC replacement took a really long time; but most of it was arguing.
Have the Chinese cut out all the arguing and decided that they won't modify plans during construction even if they should?
I'm inclined to think "no". If I had to come up with a plan to erect a skyscraper in 90 days, I'd design one prefab box that could be stacked N high, and I'd stack them. I'd base the "box" design on an entire previous building, just stronger. Having seen renderings of the proposed structure, it looks like that's what they did.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
Japan had plans to build crazy "arcologies" like this in the late '80s-early '90s, just before their real estate market cratered hard.
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How do you carry on your family name with a female heir?
By not supporting archaic social customs that suggest males are superior to females and are the only way to extend your family legacy.
You forget not everyone has your cultural values
Right, some of us believe in equality.
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Couple this with the social unrest of the one-child per family, resulting in 30 million unmarried men, and you have the fodder stimulating a revolution.
Revolution, or war with Taiwan / US.
As soon as they figure out how to move a couple million guys across the water fast. Look out.
You say that, but it's been less than ten years since we finished sequencing the human genome, and we currently have a robot on Mars. Yes, there are forces in the West pushing for overseas corporations and CEOs to have a few million dollars more even if it means shutting down NASA. Yes they've been making some progress in cutting back OUR progress. And yes, I wish we would build killer robots to tear them limb from limb. But they're not winning. And China has those people too.
Eh? "never ending failure of the miserable cynical bastards in the west"?
What sort of alter reality / history is this?
That's right. They have better food.
Although they're coming down to our level.
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Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
But I thought they poured the concrete off site (while making the pre fab sections). Too lazy to look it up, though.
Anyway, it doesn't have to be maximally strong - it just has to be strong enough. If you build enough redundancy in the system you can let it cure as the building ages.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
And I suspect that this project will have the building inspectors (and everyone else) closely monitored. They're aware of their issues, the Chinese are hardly stupid. It's like the Soviet Hero projects - they (usually) got funded well. Better materials. Better engineers. Most of their Hero stuff worked. The rest of the country, not so much.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Or 15 million gay couples. That would help solve a tiny percentage of their overpopulation.
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The concrete cure we are worried about is in the foundation, which must be poured on site, as far as we know. 28 days is the minimum cure time, usually more for structures this big.
And I'd be very interested in concrete arguments from experts.
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This type of structure is considered to be an Arcology.
"Arcology, a portmanteau of the words "architecture" and "ecology", is a set of architectural design principles aimed toward the design of enormous habitats"
http://www.bookdrum.com/books/neuromancer/9780441012039/glossary.html
My first exposure to the word and concept of Arcology/Arcologies was with [William Gibson's novel Neuromancer in 1984]. But thanks to gp poster (Bruce66423) and parent poster (YuppieScum) I now know about the earlier use of the word and concept in [Larry Niven's 1981 novel "Oath of Fealty"].
Oath of Fealty (1981) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_Fealty_(novel)
Neuromancer (1984) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromancer
* 'Oath of Fealty' looks really good, I'm tracking it down to buy it now! Again, thanks to Bruce66423 and YuppieScum for this discovery.
But without corners in the cardinal directions, how will they properly control the Feng Shui of the place?
They need a life sized iron statue of a previous emperor in eastern corner with a 1m wide deep red carpeted pathway surrounded by broad leaf potted plants with an exit out a SW door to direct the flow of "Get blown up by meteors" energy out of the building.
A cylinder would leak Strength energies all over the place, making the obviously superior Chinese concrete as weak and brittle as worthless non-Chinese concrete and dooming it to fail like any other non-Chinese product. Just ask any government official.
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How do you carry on your family name with a female heir?
By not supporting archaic social customs that suggest males are superior to females and are the only way to extend your family legacy.
So then the family with the Male heir loses out?
Hyphenate? Sure that's sustainable, generations later:
"Mr. I-have-a-long-hypenated-name-because-how-dare-one-gender-take-another's-name"
IAAASE (I actually AM a structural engineer) and I am definitely concerned. Concrete will have to be poured on site, since there will need to be a homogenous shear force resistance from the top of this thing all the way down to the bottom. If the sections were simply bolted together, then 200+ vertical slip-critical connections is going to give you a heck of a wobble.
Poured reinforced concrete is a composite connection, the steel acting to counter the moment effects and tension forces in concrete.
However, I have not seen all of the plans for this thing, and if they were to assemble, say, 20 storeys with formworks for shear assemblies, then poured a twenty story concrete lift on site, waited three days to achieve 75% curing strength, then kept going with 20 more storeys, this could work. It's not impossible, but there's a lot of problems that, while SOLVABLE, would never get approval in North America due to unacceptable levels of risk.
How do you carry on your family name with a female heir?
By making sure your daughter marries another Lee?
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"But they're not winning."
I'd love to believe that. But it's difficult to ignore the cynicism resulting from a lifetime of observation of the actual world.
Like most Chinese products.
Arcology also appears as part of the backstory in "The Digital Effect", by Steve Perry. Improper building materials lead to an arcology's collapse.
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But, will it be as interesting to look at as the prefab housing built in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, for Expo 67?
http://www.dwell.com/essay/article/prefab-decade
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A half mile high OK in 90 days OK. lol
It's not a suggestion that male names are superior, it's a means to strengthen familial bonds.
A primary result (intended or otherwise) of couples has always been reproduction.
The lineage of the Mother is never in doubt.
If the father has his name attached to said resulting offspring, and the assurances of the Mother that the child is his, he will usually accept that it is and help support both the child and the mother. Otherwise, there is a much lower rate of acceptance and fathers (or possible fathers) will leave them claiming it's another males child.
Strangely enough, this has been studied. I read a science article on it about a month or two ago.
No, I am not a sociologist or anything, but the info is out there, you just have to look for it.
The progress does not happen by politicians spending money but by private entrepreneurs having the freedom from oppressive taxation and regulation to take risks and innovate. The stagnation in the west is happening not because of austerity programs by the government but because of the excessive obsession with safety and fear of taking risks. The Oakland bridge eastern span replacement cost was $6 billion and took 11 years. Chinese put up bigger and better bridges than that for 2 years and $300 million.
Negative moral value of force outweighs the positive value of good intentions.
You only have a choice between Obama and Bush at the end of a very long and involved process of vetting and primaries that is reasonably democratic, although many people do not participate out of laziness and ignorance. It would be ridiculous to have 50 presidential candidates in the general election. You start with 50 but they get narrowed down to 2. I would personally prefer 3 but not more than that.
Negative moral value of force outweighs the positive value of good intentions.
Like I said, it's not about stupidity - it's all about corruption. I am certain that the Chinese are "smart" enough to build a tall building safely... they are people, after all. That, and the knowledge is already available to anyone who wants it.
My concern is that they will be depending on someone scaring the corruption out of the system for this project. That is why I used the Manhattan crane example... NYC is fairly corrupt for a US city, but it absolutely pales in comparison to China.
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Hyphenate? Sure that's sustainable, generations later:
"Mr. I-have-a-long-hypenated-name-because-how-dare-one-gender-take-another's-name"
You don't know any middle eastern people, do you?
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I would be really scared to be near this building- much less in it.
They need to require that any suppliers spend time in the building after it is finished.
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Not a direct response to your post, but it made me curious so a quick search showed....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_structural_failures_and_collapses
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They are working on it. The scale of their naval ramp-up is pretty insane.
You only have a choice between Obama and Bush at the end of a very long and involved process of vetting and primaries that is reasonably democratic, although many people do not participate out of laziness and ignorance. It would be ridiculous to have 50 presidential candidates in the general election. You start with 50 but they get narrowed down to 2. I would personally prefer 3 but not more than that.
You are completely missing the point. Your primary system enforces a two party system. You can only declare yourself as a Republican, Democrat or Independent full stop.
Instead of primaries, other countries elect their party leaders at political conventions. The public "election" is held later which I think is a more sensible system. I also think it is a bit idiotic that state officials are involved in the federal election and that you elect everyone in one big election night.
In Canada, we have separate election schedules for provincial and federal elections, we have multiple parties running and elections are handled by independent non-partisan organizations for the provincial and federal elections. For the Federal election, there is Elections Canada and for the Provincial election, there is an elections . We do not use voting machines but rather a simple paper ballot where you mark and X by the candidate you want to represent your riding.
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All of that has been made irrelevant by paternity tests.
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You do realize china has built entire cities that sit unused and falling apart. China regularly fails to understand people and builds infrastructure first and then tries to find people to use it.
i thought once I was found, but it was only a dream.
You are completely missing the point. Your primary system enforces a two party system. You can only declare yourself as a Republican, Democrat or Independent full stop
Not true. you can register as a Libertarian, or a member of any party. There is no legal reason why a third party cannot be more successful in the US. It is a different issue that our political and media elites who set the political agenda have been convinced that a two party system is more stable and it is the problem for the Libertarians and other parties to convince them otherwise. Btw, I find it amusing that Canadians always express such exaggerated confidence in the fundamentally undemocratic first-past-the-post political system they inherited from UK. Inferiority complex?
Negative moral value of force outweighs the positive value of good intentions.
That list is... interesting! Obviously incomplete and some really obvious omissions (earthquakes?) , yet they have the recent building collapse of a building under demolition in Philly! Anyway, cool link, thanks...
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So instead of hyphenating the parents, we put in both the parent's first names AND the last name as well? (remember the original discussion was about the females 'losing' their name, something not brought up in the Arab Family Naming Convention)
So:
"Mr. John son Mary and Steve who are the son and daughter of Bob and Betty and Jack and Wendy respectively"
Yes much better
I'll point again to the human genome project and the mars rovers as clear examples of how we are winning overall. Look at the dark ages, or the taliban rule in Afghanistan for examples of when "they" win. It could be much better, but the forces of ignorance and greed aren't winning.
Then instead of having the world's tallest building, they'll have the world's longest building.
It's win-win!
You are completely missing the point. Your primary system enforces a two party system. You can only declare yourself as a Republican, Democrat or Independent full stop.
Not quite that simple. Primaries are run by the parties. Each party has their own systems for each state. Some are primaries, and some are a caucus. Each state has different laws dealing with how these are handled. Some let them do their thing, some bind everything together at the same time. IIRC, most that deal with it at the state level are not tied to the two parties but to the amount of votes that any given party got the prior year. The realpolitik is that we have a two party system that makes it extremely hard for any other party to come in (but this has happened and does happen about every 20 years with one of the old main parties dying about every hundred) but in reality, there are many parties, divided up between at least fifty state organizations each all operating under different state laws.
There's no legal reason, but there's a big practical reason, and it's the way the presidential election works. Since it's one eelction, winner takes all, you get that "if I don't vote for one of the two main parties, I'm just throwing my vote away" feel.
The structure of the elections directly leads to a two-party system.
One time I threw a brick at a duck.
China doesn't exactly have a reputation for being safe, so I'm sure they'll jump through all the hoops and punch holes where there are no hoops to jump through.
Look, you implied that combining surnames was not sustainable long term; so, I presented an example of a culture in which combining surnames has been sustainable for a long time.
Maybe it would work for western nations, maybe it wouldn't, but that's non sequitur in regard to my response.
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Instead of primaries, other countries elect their party leaders at political conventions ... which I think is a more sensible system.
Why is it more sensible? The US used to use that system, but it was abandoned because in practice it meant that candidates were chosen by party bosses. Our primary/caucus system is far from perfect (e.g. why does Iowa go first?) but it's still an improvement because members of a party have some say in who the candidates will be,
I also think it is a bit idiotic that ... you elect everyone in one big election night.
Why? To me it's a convenience to only go to the polls once. What advantage is there to having separate election days?
We do not use voting machines but rather a simple paper ballot where you mark ...
You mean like I do when I vote?
Your point is well taken, but so far there's still worlds of difference between China and the USA.
Of course you're right. Of course you probably also anticipated the kind of pseudo-sophisticated adolescent nihilist responses you got so many of.
Very informative. Thank you.
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I was with you here right up until I started to consider what the hell sort of solution the OP had conjured up for himself and the wife from the gentle Spaniard at Lowe's ..
You are completely missing the point. Your primary system enforces a two party system. You can only declare yourself as a Republican, Democrat or Independent full stop.
Not quite that simple. Primaries are run by the parties. Each party has their own systems for each state. Some are primaries, and some are a caucus. Each state has different laws dealing with how these are handled. Some let them do their thing, some bind everything together at the same time. IIRC, most that deal with it at the state level are not tied to the two parties but to the amount of votes that any given party got the prior year. The realpolitik is that we have a two party system that makes it extremely hard for any other party to come in (but this has happened and does happen about every 20 years with one of the old main parties dying about every hundred) but in reality, there are many parties, divided up between at least fifty state organizations each all operating under different state laws.
There is your problem right there. The state laws should play no part in a FEDERAL election of the US president, US senate or US congress. The state government should have no say in how the US election is handled there. You should have an independent agency handling the US election and independent agencies in each state handling state elections.
Look at what happened in florida in previous elections, the state government interfered with the US presidential election. They should have no involvement at all.
That is not to say that state parties could not canvas/help their federal candidate counterparts but there should be some clear separation between the State government and the US election process.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
There are actually large empty towns in China because the wealth is actually disproportionate there and there are rich people who own property just because that is the only way to gain wealth. Money gets taken. But they can have their empty towns. Communism fail.
https://www.google.com/search?q=empty+chinese+towns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=rnmxUbHtDbGg4AOM7IHABA&ved=0CCoQsAQ&biw=1201&bih=814
http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1975397_2094492,00.html
http://www.news.com.au/business/china-building-mega-cities-but-they-remain-empty-sparking-fears-of-housing-bubble-burst/story-e6frfm1i-1226611169281
So you guys might not have to worry. People may never inhabit this structure. It might be purely for vanity.
A bit more info: These construction projects are between 20 and 30% of the economy and the people paying for these properties to be built could loose big time if they don't get filled. Poor people are being moved into them (for example Ordos, Inner Mongolia) but they cannot afford the equivalent 100,000 USD price. Ordos is supposed to be able to house 1 million people.
There's also the Spanish method. Take a friend of mine from university who had the best name I ever heard: Fernando Hernandez Fernandez Hernandez. Sounds great when you say it quickly. Anyway, I digress.
He explained that the children take three family names: The father's first family name, then the mother's first family name, and then the father's second family name.
So Fernando's father was ? Hernandez Hernandez ?, and his mother was ? Fernandez ? ?
There you go, a western culture that manages the job pretty well.
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I'd mod that down to turn it into +1, Funny. It's like making fun of English people called Smith, and Germans called Mayer. I once saw an advertisement in a London bus (I can't remember who paid for it, maybe the humane society). It read "If you can't make a joke about it, it can't be taken seriously".
His cultural values are bad and he should feel bad
What is the definition of "build?" The modules are pre-built elsewhere, and this takes longer than 30 days. Also, how much finishing work needs to be done after the building is topped off? But if they succeed, it will still be impressive.
Here you go:
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> 30 million unmarried men
Or, ya know, externalize the surplus... Start some wars.
Look at the current gender demographics of Russia for an example of what happens to the ratios after 50+ years of conscription into un-winable, and under supported military conflicts.
Sucks to be the rest of the world if China pursues such an approach. They can throw an insane amount of 'man-power' at just about anything now... I'm sure that makes their neighbors kind of nervous.
They don't need to - they sold that bucket of horse shit to some idiot in California several years ago.
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