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Online Journalists Launch An Onslaught Against Donald Trump (nytimes.com)
An anonymous Slashdot reader writes:
Online journalists at Buzzfeed are publicizing two controversial videos featuring Donald Trump. First the site "filed court motions seeking the release" of Trump's under-oath testimony in a June trial, in which the real estate mogul "says he planned his caustic remarks on immigration delivered during the launch of his presidential bid," bragging that they'd "led to my nomination in a major party in the country." And Buzzfeed is also publicizing a video clip from the 2000 softcore porn movie Playboy Video Centerfold: Bernaola Twins, in which Trump makes a cameo appearance. Playboy has even said that years earlier Trump actually pressured his second wife to pose for Playboy. ("Trump himself was on the phone negotiating the fee," remembered a top Playboy editor. "He wanted her to do the nude layout. She didn't.")
But his biggest problem may be the mainstream media. According to the New York Times, Trump "declared a $916 million loss on his 1995 income tax returns, a tax deduction so substantial it could have allowed him to legally avoid paying any federal income taxes for up to 18 years..."
But his biggest problem may be the mainstream media. According to the New York Times, Trump "declared a $916 million loss on his 1995 income tax returns, a tax deduction so substantial it could have allowed him to legally avoid paying any federal income taxes for up to 18 years..."
Meh.
Hillary is a corrupt, lying monster who is the ultimate expression of the repressive system of the political Establishment. She shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the White House. I'm voting for Trump just because the establishment is trying so insanely hard to derail him. When the UN hates his guts, that just adds another sparkle to his appeal. He's the napalm solution for a time when everyone is tired of what Hillary represents.
Burn the system down. Burn it all down.
It might shock people to discover that successful business people file their taxes better than people who don't. While it is true that the government needs to do a better job educating the masses (personal finance education should be mandatory in high-school) poor people should stop pretending that using so-called loopholes is illegal or immoral, because it is neither.
The only thing that is immoral is that some people know about these tricks while other people do not. If you don't like the loopholes, change the laws, but don't blame the people who make use of them.
AMEN.
Vote for Hillary = Affirmation that you're cool with corrupt politics.
Vote for Trump = Drop napalm on the whole F-ing thing.
Never realized how much scrutiny his life would get if he got the nomination.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
Nope, voting for Hillary just means you're going for someone with experience to be president for 4-8 years, rather than the insane guy dreaming of nuclear war with fallout for thousands.
All these attacks on Trump are only driving people to support him. He is perceived as the enemy of the media, and people hate the media more than they hate Trump.
Trump will destroy the USA as a world power, make it a laughing stock in international relations, destroy its remaining manufacturing with trade protectionsim that cripples it for decades like East Germany, and wage war on nations that he perceives insults from - dooming us to nuclear holocaust in a way not seen for decades.
Vote for Garry Johnson (or other third party for that matter) = I would rather throw my vote away than see things continue the way they are.
Yes, yes...I'm sure Mr. Trump wants nuclear war...
Ah, no. Pretending that Clinton is not warmonger is dangerous. I can't believe I agree with a AC.
And you think Hillary is any different? Bill Gates is one of her top donors to the Clinton Foundation.
That, and it's going to fracture the GOP - which could lead to more than a two party system.
_ _ _ Go for the eyes Boo! GO FOR THE EYES!
Trump will destroy the USA as a world power, make it a laughing stock in international relations,.
Haha, too late!
Hillary is the candidate proposing to launch physical wars against cyber-attackers, the biggest two of which are big nuclear powers. Trump is the candidate who wants the US to stop being Team America: World Police. The candidate with then 20 years of bad political experience is the one who wants to perpetuate the current failed policies that have brought the US to the brink of bankruptcy and an internal race war. She's also accused of murdering 50 people, committing treason with state secrets, attacking several women her husband is accused of raping, and covering up health problems that may kill her during her first term, and money laundering and pay-for-play through the Clinton Foundation. The worst the DNC can dig up on Trump is that he allegedly called a beauty queen fat who violated the terms of her contract to be Miss Universe. No, the Frank and Claire Underwood award goes to... Hillary and Bill Clinton (in that order).
Hehe! Agree!
Because, destroying the entire world with a nuclear holocaust leaves a darn whole lot of the world for Mr. Putin to rule over...
To paraphrase Gen. Colin Powell: "Everything she touches, she royally screws up."
Remember, Trump's >$900million loss came from running a fucking casino. And this was in the go-go 90's when people were actually making and spending money.
You've got to be a special kind of businessman to lose almost a billion dollars running a casino.
You are welcome on my lawn.
This is absolutely true. The entire country has had its fill of the holier than thou elites.
I actually think the "fracture" of the GOP has already occurred. What you're seeing now is the populist, national birth of something entirely new. No wonder the MSM and political elites are sh*tting themselves...
Try other news sources. What you see of Trump depicted via the MSM is nothing than a fictional caricature. Yeah, Trump is a loud, brash New Yorker, but that doesn't make him anything like what they say he his. And I mean "they", the MSM who are licking the boots of Hillary.
I hate all these ignorant fucking kids running rampant on Slashdot.
Poll: Who would you rather fellate? Hillary Trump
Uh, she was also a well-regarded attorney, a U.S. Senator, and a Secretary of State, not to mention the lead on healthcare when Bill Clinton was president. What experience does Trump have again in domestic governance? How about foreign affairs? He has a business empire that's had many more failures than successes, has starred in a reality show, and is unafraid to appeal directly to bigotry. That's it.
Between Clinton, Trump, Stein, and Johnson, Trump is either the least qualified or second-least after Stein. Johnson, as a former governor of a middle population state, is actually the only one that even sniffs Clinton's level of relevant experience.
I'm an Anti-Hillary fellator, thank-you-very-much! :)
#WhyThankYou
Vote Hillary = A bigger, stronger, more-oppressive system, led by a corrupt, lying, incompetent old hag Vote Trump = Small hands and a gosh-darn good time for at least the next 4-years
Another of her top donors is Saudi Arabia -- a place where women are considered property. But let's ignore that and focus on the allegation that Trump called a beauty queen fat 20 years ago -- a woman whose weight gain violated her contract with Trump for Miss Universe.
Trump had a loss on his taxes and now he is following the law to not overpay future taxes? How dare he!
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
You pretty much have to be a sociopath or psychopath to make it to the level Trump/Clinton make it. There have been numerous studies proving that C-level executives and politicians are exponentially more likely to exhibit those signs.
Whether or not he actually got the tax break, it indeed makes him smart. If you knew how to game the system the way Trump, Gates, Jobs or Clinton did, you would do it too. Jobs purportedly never drove with a license plate on his vehicles, Gates did the overseas tax dodge, they found and used the loophole. Trump did the same, sure he screwed people over but he didn't cause the crisises Madoff, Bank of America, Wells Fargo have gotten involved in. It's not like he sold access to a US government office he held through a charity.
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It APPEARS, repeat appears, that everyone cares about these factual statements by the press, contrary to the "Goring" of Hillary
Looking like the pressure is on the Donald to do some real work for a change.
Clinton would be a fucking weak candidate on any other occasion, no arguments there. But for Pete's sake, she's running against Trump. Trump. I can't even believe there's a choice to be made here for half the population of the US.
The GOP will have no one but themselves to blame after loosing this election.
I don't know if I've seen so many points expended to suppress both sides of an argument.
Because he apparently sucks at being a businessman, something he claims he's good at, and make him perfect for the job of President.
This. I honestly believe the only reason Trump is avoiding to show his tax returns is that it would reveal his net worth is *far* less what he claims it to be.
I find the concept of media cottonballing Clinton fairly ridiculous. She was rightfully bashed on several occasions, notably during the private email server scandal.
So you're saying that Trump's a semi-successful demagogue, and this qualifies him to be President. Just checking.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
What a clueless git. So think of it this way- when Trump is elected President, the media will be a serious watchdog on everything he does for the next 4 years. Good or bad, you'll know about it. IF Hillary is elected, the media will continue to faun over her, hide her illegal dealings, lie about events far worse than Benghazi and EmailGate and generally ignore every illegal, immoral or unConstitutional thing she does. You think that Obama's emphasis on race relations is bad, just wait. She's all pay for play and there will be a slew of VERY unsavory characters that run through the White House, and not all of them will be sporting a blue dress. Pick your poison brother, because Hillary for the next 4 years will end in a civil war.
It scares the crap out of me that here on Slashdot, a site with presumably smart people like engineers and programmers, so many people are defending and rooting for Donald Trump.
Either Slashdot is not as intelligent as I thought, or it is more right-wing than I thought, which of course is not exclusive.
Yes, yes...I'm sure Mr. Trump wants nuclear war...
Did you get Johnny Smith to shake Trumps hand?
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Vote for the lizard, not the wizard.
Yeah because only one candidate has ever held elective office. The other is just a poser.
I've experienced the same living in South America and witnessing people i used to regard as smart defending the likes of Castro, Chavez, Kirchner and Rousseff. It was a sad eye opener.
You mean the same media who exposed the email scandal? That media?
Not only not mutually exclusive but also highly correlated.
It's what you get with miserable public education, corporate news media that's only in it for the ratings, and a population where most people don't have a passport and never left their country.
Amen. The woman is only experienced if you count several decades of impressive job titles won through nepotism when she did a terrible job at all of them once provided with the responsibility of the office.
The gall of this woman to brag about her stamina for having to endure 12 hours of congressional testimony while sitting in a chair should enrage anyone who has seen the movie "13 Hours".
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4172430/
As Secretary of State, she demonstrated herself to be a total buffoon of a micromanager by forcefully inserting herself into military decision-making process (disrupting the OODA loop) when she was so stricken with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Hypothyroidism, and Parkinson's to render her bedridden and unable to perform when the infamous "3am" phone call (which she used to dog-whistle against BHO during the 2008 DNC primary) came in and finally landed in her outrageously incapable lap.
Her legacy as the literal founder of ISIL(it was her brainchild to topple Muammar Gaddafi, leaving Libya in anarchy) should terrify anyone who thinks that Daesh are bad people.
Don't get it, eh? Trump is not the GOP, which is why he was the winning candidate. This election is about immigration, national identity and an economy that's fscking over the middle class and making them pay for everything. The GOP as a party is dead, they just haven't stopped twitching. All you have to do is look at HRC and Trump's campaign slogans- "I'm With Her" is all about Hillary, who will continue to screw over the white middle class to bring in Democrat-voting, public assistance-using blacks, latinos and migrants and make the middle class pay to become a singled-out minority. Trump's "Make America Great Again" is about America for Americans, "To Ourselves and Our Posterity" and looking out for the American who wants an equal footing and opportunity (used or not) to be his or her own person. America is equal opportunity, not equal outcome and anyone who's tells you differently is a Democrat.
It scares crap out of me to witness idiots as Presidents, who know some truth about terrorism and still funding them. Watch this video and then google how much taxpayers money we are giving Pakistan to fund this against our own citizens. Trump may be speaking a lot out of his head, but some issues raised by him made me think.
hilarious
Also, it's going to show that he have given nothing (or almost nothing) to charitable causes.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
Washington DC insiders are experienced at graft and fearmongering. Not much else. I'll take the moderate democrat pretending to be a Republican who hasn't been part of the problem, vs encouraging the DNC's sabotage of Bernie Sanders any day of the week.
I will vote for Trump with both middle fingers extended in the air to all the shills claiming HE is the most likely to start WWIII, vs. the neocon that voted for the Iraq War in the Senate and is now doing everything in her power to start a nuclear slugging match with Russia.
At what point did reporting the facts become "onslaught against Donald Trump"? I mean he's running to be president, it's no gangsta rapper catfight.
This. Honestly, all that's necessary with Trump is to publish what the guy says on record on every public appearance.
Buzzfeed is a corporation, just like Citizens United is a corporation. We heard it was wrong for Citizens United to spend money to make a political film. Where's the outrage about Buzzfeed spending corporate money against Trump?
Please post your expressions of outrage here. Unless your outrage was phony. Or selective, partisan outrage. Or you can explain why corporation B can legitimately spend on politics, but corporation C can't.
It's a Hitler vs Stalin election, what can you expect? Only there is disagreement about who is Hitler and who is Stalin, or which one you would choose above the other.
Me, for what I care about : danger posed on the international scene, I'd rather vote Kim Jong Un than Hillary Clinton.
Up and counting toll from Hillary's kind of policies : less than half a million dead, but seven million refugees. Something to brag about indeed!
They are in it for more than ratings. I don't know what the hell for, but it's not just ratings.
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I think the Iran deal is a good thing, and Iran and Hezbollah are fighting against ISIS and Al Nosra etc. these days, so Iran is a large exporter of counter terrorism. Although, if it's "moderate" terrorists fighting less "moderate" terrorists (that Hillary et al. consider as moderate enough to give them support), what a mess that is.
If terrorism is that bad, it would actually be logical for Israel to ally with Hezbollah to root out the worse terrorists.
"Drop napalm on the whole F-ing thing."
That thing, the place where you live?
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You should really google on populism. What Trump brings to the table is what the rest of America (continent) has been suffering for the past 15 years, sans Canada.
There's plenty of opportunity to see Trump unfiltered. The media has mostly cleaned him up and made him more palatable.
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I don't know if I've seen so many points expended to suppress both sides of an argument.
What's interesting is looking at the moderation levels over time.
For the first hour after the article was posted, there were a lot of pro-Trump comments.
Now it's 2.5 hours later and all those articles have been modded down. What's left is pro-Hillary, in a roundabout way.
You can tell when something's gone up and down because of the tags., If something has "Score: 2 insightful" it means someone modded it up (to gain the "insightful") and someone else modded it down.
When Whiplash took over I mentioned that this site goes to pot around 6 weeks before a presidential election, and becomes unbearable starting around 2 weeks before an election. This year I think it'll be worse than previous election years.
I can't *wait* until the election is over, so we can go back to having insightful posts.
But apparently you (Mr. Anonymous Coward) don't mind getting pegged by Hillary. The definition of a Cuck.
And next to nothing in federal or state income taxes, for that matter. Frankly, if you are running for public office, I think it behooves you to pay into the system. At the very least, it looks bad to the middle America types for whom working hard and paying taxes is a mark of patriotism. (Even as they complain vociferously about those taxes.)
(Score: -1, Stupid)
You most likely live on that table.
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That really caught my attention during the debate, specifically the "you don't pay income taxes" "that makes me smart" exchange. You'd assume most blue collar workers who do pay a shitload in taxes would be pissed by that line of thinking.
Reporting the facts. All of them. Leave the editorializing to the readers.
That was actually funny! Wrong, but funny. You're OK, just don't be an idiot anymore.
Well, we only have his word that he does. But he could be lying.
I was wondering how he was going to try to recover from his recent string of bad news. Looks like his method is to pretend it's a conspiracy by the left-wing media to ruin him with an "onslaught" of bad press. Which implies that the stories are false or exaggerated, without actually making that claim. Clever, in case he ever needs to admit that the reports are true.
Truth has no sides. Reality has no bias. If these things are true, and I have seen no indications that they are not, then the news is making Donald Trump look bad because Donald Trump is actually bad. If he steals money from charity to bribe investigators to turn a blind eye to his fraudulent businesses, the blame for the bad press afterward lies purely at the hands of Trump, not on the media and press.
Either Slashdot is not as intelligent as I thought, or it is more right-wing than I thought
Trump is not "right-wing". He is a populist, with an eclectic and shifting mix of the worst of both left and right.
"Right-wing" means fiscal responsibility, balanced budgets, free trade, and cutting entitlements, ... like Bill Clinton.
The government is not the country (where we live). The government is not the nation (who we are).
See that "Preview" button?
It scares the crap out of me that here on Slashdot, a site with presumably smart people like engineers and programmers, so many people are defending and rooting for Donald Trump.
The post you replied to doesn't appear to be doing that. Though GGGP posts may have been, they were done by ACs, which could very well be the same ACs that post GNAA spam.
Besides, ones intelligence isn't inherently going to make them favor a particular candidate. That, and to be honest I think the whole presidential race is stupid anyways.
In other words, she's an IRL Cercei Lannister?
Tend to doubt there's much of interest in Trump's tax returns. Otherwise the clintondrones at the IRS would have already leaked them.
The fracture is decades old now. Since 1988, there has been a growing gulf between the GOP establishment and the GOP voting base.
This election season won't result in a third party. It will be a return to the two party system. Your choice lately has been between Globalism and Marxism fast, or Globalism and Marxism slowly. This year, the Republican voters are turning the Republican party into a pro-America and pro-American party, a clear choice for a change.
We tried warning the GOP elites. First, we started the Tea Party movement. That rapid rise should have been taken as a warning shot. It meant that millions of Americans were unhappy with the GOP leadership. The Tea Party brand got corrupted, so no one uses that name now, but we, the voters, are still here, and our apathy has given way to cold anger. We intend to win the war for the GOP in the next decade or less.
See that "Preview" button?
an economy that's fscking over the middle class and making them pay for everything
I think I fit the definition of the middle class (between my job and the rent I collect I make just north of $80k/year) and I don't feel like I am being made to "pay for everything", nor do I feel like I'm being fucked over in any way. The top 1% income earners pay 50% of all of the federal income taxes, and the bottom 80% (which I'm part of) barely pay 15%, so please do explain why you think I'm getting fucked over and/or how I am being made to "pay for everything."
Strange, people keep claiming Trump voters are uneducated. Yet all of the people who want to turn our public university system into a political indoctrination machine obsessed with classifying regular behavior as "microaggressions" and insisting white males are the sole force of evil on the planet for the sin of drawing breath. You know, destroying education for their own purposes and attempting to force their thought upon everyone else rather than letting facts stand on their own.
This is the behavior of "educated" people. Makes one wonder just what that "education" consists of. If this is their behavior, perhaps being "uneducated" more of a compliment.
More like:
Vote for Hillary: cool with the corruption that comes with politics as usual.
Vote for Trump: watch me introduce corrupt business practices into that mix.
Religion is what happens when nature strikes and groupthink goes wrong.
27 years ago the authoritarian USSR fell along with the Berlin wall. Now a bitter soviet thug is working in coordination with a new American authoritarian to build a new wall and baiting a race war to destablize the USA; just as freedom destabilized the USSR. But you'd have to have half a brain to understand that. Is America too stupid to fall for it? You betcha.
Well said. That's a nice condensed overview of the state of regressive liberal ideology. This 'state of being' that is being pushed by Progressives/Democrats has made me realize that these people don't have good intentions. In fact, it has, with great horror, made me totally indifferent and repulsed that they would find this oxymoron behavior something to strive for or even acceptable. In layman's terms, these people are f*cking nuts!
You assume that educated, degreed and presumably smart people like engineers and programmers have the same viewpoints as you do. How incredibly Marxist of you. Guess what... you aren't Albert Einstein. I applaud you on your 3 degrees of vision for world policy (note: the rest of us are In the 357 degrees you don't see). Slashdot is a forum not a political party (I truly hope) so your opinion is yours and by democracy it isn't anybody else's. Not all of the hipster movement has decided to back another 8+ years of Obama's failed policies by choosing Hillary so why do you assume its a movement and thus not any single voter's personal opinion piling up person after person? If so I'm that "other guy" that is tired of the H1B job removal (just Google Disney job replacements...)
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/us/last-task-after-layoff-at-disney-train-foreign-replacements.html?_r=0
The transfer of funds from our country to others that would love for us to just go the "f" away and stop bothering them (Iran (billions partially documented and who the F knows what wasn't documented), Iraq (billions with nearly zero accountability), the list goes on). The systematic degradation of our infrastructure and our military at the expense of the ability of our nation to defend itself and survive in a global economy... has faded for the last 8 years. Entitlements are the undoing of our country... just research how many currently collect it .vs. how many pay in. Entitlement programs, though not the biggest marble in the bag.. through big business are a part of the fundamental collapse of cities like Chicago where jobs based on vehicle production used to guarantee good wages and the possibility of retirement that could sustain a valued worker into their twilight years. Now Chicago is an un-adulterated war zone that gun legislation cannot fix and gang-based violence rules the streets.
Under the new tenure you would support.... fly-byes of Soviet fighters and bombers.. Iranian warships harassing our countries Navy and God knows what else would be acceptable as Hillary would give 1/3 of a shit as Obama did.
Shame on you.... you're our next contestant to roll out the red carpet for our next Opressor-in-chief.
For the rest of us that fear entrusting people like you with our country.. I hope we all have a happy ending but my plans don't include that. They include getting past uniformed people like you.
How about you take your Insightful score and move the f*ck to Canada where you can enjoy it without any financial, moral or ethical repercussions.
Will Trump Pardon Snowden?
If by pardon you mean firing squad then yes absolutely.
"I think Snowden is a terrible threat. I think heâ(TM)s a terrible traitor and you know what we used to do in the good old days when we were a strong country you know what we used to do to traitors right?" - DJT
Science does not care what you think.
Here is real research by real academics who have actual PhD degrees and study the media. They are at one of the best universities on the planet: Harvard. This is the definitive definition of a qualified professional. They don't make shit up like Fox not-really-News.
This research covers 2015, but things didn't change much up to the national political party conventions. The most explosive material wasn't reported until after the first debate, and much of it is coming from online upstarts like Buzzfeed.
The mainstream news organizations have been completely missing until very recently. The information about Trump's income tax claim could have been uncovered by the NY Times at any time in the last two years, but it wasn't. He was getting a free ride from the entire mainstream press until a few weeks ago.
I know that Republicans have an extreme aversion to facts and departed reality many years ago, but the real world doesn't care what you think. It has a nasty habit of showing up when least expected and wreaking havoc on fools who ignore it. With any luck real world facts will finally catch up with Trump and pound him into dust. If that doesn't happen then the whole world is going on an extremely terrible ride.
Why is Snark Required?
You are the one who sucks.
Why is Snark Required?
Publishing - the man's own media appearances is an "onslaught"? Isn't that more like "routine"? It barely qualifies as journalism, too easy.
Isn't holding people accountable for their public positions the very job of journalists?
And The Times - every journalist has been howling for those tax returns for a nearly a year, they've been expected for 40 years - and now actually showing a couple of pages of a really old one is an "onslaught"? Most would say, "no brainer".
Will open source be outlawed altogether? Enjoy your burning down of the system. Personally if anarchy is your thing I would have voted for Vermin Supreme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Clinton would be a fucking weak candidate on any other occasion, no arguments there. But for Pete's sake, she's running against Trump. Trump. I can't even believe there's a choice to be made here for half the population of the US.
Have you thought about what might be wrong with your world view that prevents your beliefs from matching up with objective reality?
People don't vote candidates, in general. They vote if they are happy about how things are, or if they are not. Usually, is the incumbent (I'm happy about how things are in MY life), or the challenger (I'm not happy, let's change something).
In this particular case the incumbent cannot run, so the proxy is the candidate of the same party. Also, people suspect that the usual challengers are not really a change at all. But in this case it is, or at least it appears to be. So the excitement about it.
Voting or defending Trump has nothing to do with Trump, really, and all to do with a desire for profound change. The people express that desire in the only way that the election game allows them, and that's not a good way, that's for sure, but it's the only one.
You are surprised of intelligent people defending Trump, and I am surprised of how this blatant fact, the desire, of so many people, for many current politics to change or reverse course, is completely bypassed by the media, that chooses to center in the, admittedly rather pathetic, personification of that desire. That's an ad-hominem fallacy if I ever saw one, and you fall into that trap and try to keep the discussion there (the person), instead of on the politics.
Rome taught me patience and assiduous application to detail. Virtues which temper the boldness of great, general views.
Alternatively, you're not as smart as you think you are.
When you have the sort of money that Donald Trump or Putin have (I've read Putin may have about $70 billion), then you generally make deals with each other. Billionaires generally come from two backgrounds, founding extremely successful companies that are one-offs. (Zara, Microsoft, Google, Apple), or by making a large number of deals that add to your holdings over time, increasing its value (Warren Buffet, Donald Trump, Sheldon Adelson, Waleed Bin-Talal, Mark Cuban).
These guys have dealings with so many ventures it's realistically impossible to not find a connection between all of them to each other in some way. That's how they got to be so big in the first place.
Donald Trump has struck a nerve with the american people. It's sad that he was the one to figure out how, but he did. That nerve is the sensitivity to the overtly corrupt political structure now at the helm of this country "for the people". He promised he could not be influenced because he has more than enough capital to fund his run, and live happily ever after.
Unfortunately, the Democrats didn't do any better, by swinging their ball completely in the 100% opposite direction. Hillary Clinton seems to be as politically astute as Donald Trump is politically ignorant. She successfully derailed Bernie Sander's campaign with insider dealings so corrupt, they forced the DNC chairman(woman) to resign, along with other DNC senior staff. She has been making insider plays, taken money from just about anyone who would give it to her, no matter what the cost to the American people, or the favor required; and wiggled her way to the Democratic presumptive nominee this election year, seemingly through those backroom deals. Her entire campaign doesn't really promise anything ground-breaking, really its just more of the same overly corrupt Washington insiders. Instead, her campaign is really "I'm not him". His campaign, if he could ever get the media to stop talking about his mouth, is "I'm not them".
Just curious, how do you think Trump would have responded in Johnson's place?
He probably would have failed the smell test too, but it would be more Trump's style to deflect the question by re-stating that he knows more about ISIS than the Generals do and underscore it with his little finger pointing in the air saying "Believe me!".
I think that at some point in the next two debates Trump's knowledge that he claims to have on ISIS and the international situation needs to be put to the test in a non -multiple choice type of way. (Essay questions!)
I am not holding my breath, despite all the angsty teen sounding posts talking about how great Trump is, his answers are over confident, show no evidence he actually possesses the knowledge level he claims to and he responds angrily and rhetorically to try to shut down those types of questions.
Trumps commentary and general overconfident posture invokes fears that he is a victim of the Dunning Kruger effect. Before we elect him, if that is what is destined to happen we must make sure that he is not bullshiting, because there is just too much important shit at stake in the world to let him slide by like he was trying to get a C+ to scrape by on a high schools social studies test he didn't study for. If Trump is so great of a candidate he really needs to pass the smell test and so far he has done really really poorly. The Trump supporters who think that he won the debate, despite what every poll is saying, are the facts be damned type so arguing with them with credible evidence to back your position up is a waste of energy. The real deal breaker for me was when I found out (though I was not going to vote for Trump to begin with) Trump is an Anti-Vaccination believer. I cannot vote for Trump, my fingers are incapable of checking the box.. won't happen. Science is true whether you believe in it or not.
I love to hear people make that claim. Let me ask you one quick question that is about science.
What species is the organism developing inside a fertilized chicken egg?
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
Either Slashdot is not as intelligent as I thought, or it is more right-wing than I thought
Trump is not "right-wing". He is a populist, with an eclectic and shifting mix of the worst of both left and right.
"Right-wing" means fiscal responsibility, balanced budgets, free trade, and cutting entitlements, ... like the Republican led Congress when Bill Clinton signed their bills into law.
FTFY
What? You thought Bill Clinton wrote every piece of legislation that Congress voted on?
You need to watch Schoolhouse Rock.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
That's OK. Jesus still loves you.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
And there we have the liberal attack, with their typical homophobic slur that they accuse conservatives of using. All because someone online doesn't agree with them, on every issue, 100%.
Do you ever wonder why you can't convince people that your views are better?
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
There is no scandal in reality, just political smear campaigns. Clinton is innocent of all charges.
No. FBI Director Comey specifically said he didn't think any prosecutor would be willing to bring charges against Hillary (Dead-shot) Clinton.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
This is, what, the fifth time you have spouted your vitriol against someone just for having a different opinion than yourself?
You leftists sure are full of love for your fellow man.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
Sounds better than the opposition: a quite successful charlatan who sold her position like a crack whore to all comers.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
I see all these posts with "right", "left" and "liberal" thrown out casually. Usually the "left" and "liberal" are used as pejoratives, yet from this side of the pond there is no "left" or "liberal", only "right", "more right" and "far right". There isn't even a "middle" in US, probably due to the continuing knee-jerk, hide-bound fear of "commies" that pervades the US mindset.
"Wait. Something's happening. It's opening up! My God, it's full of apricots!"
Typical hatchet job - the MSM is devoted to Hillary, so they do things like this, while doing their best to ignore her games with the Clinton Foundation. Notes on the items in TFS:
- Of course Trump planned his remarks. What, you think he made them up randomly? Read the columns that Scott Adams has been writing - at this level of the game, there are very few accidents. According to Adams, Trump is using a technique called "pacing", where you make an extreme statement and follow it up by a moderate position. As with anyone running for a higher political office: what he says during his campaign has essentially nothing to do with his personal beliefs. It's all tactics to get elected. This is, sadly, how politics works.
- Trump appeared in Playboy? He wanted his wife to pose, but she refused. Um...so what?
- Trump lost money on some of his ventures. This is not news. Look at the number of ventures he owns, then tell you really expect all of them to be successful? He wrote off his losses on one of his ventures, wow, what a surprise. Hillary takes a different approach, by shielding most of her assets inside the Clinton Foundation. Frankly, that's a lot worse, because the Clinton Foundation is pretending to be a non-profit organization.
tl;dr: The MSM is in the tank for Hillary. Hatchet jobs on Trump are no surprise.
Enjoy life! This is not a dress rehearsal.
The same people that tells me that I should be ashamed of being white, so, meh.
(not that I like the giant douche, or the turd sandwich for that matter)
People don't vote candidates, in general. They vote if they are happy about how things are, or if they are not. Usually, is the incumbent (I'm happy about how things are in MY life), or the challenger (I'm not happy, let's change something).
In this particular case the incumbent cannot run, so the proxy is the candidate of the same party. Also, people suspect that the usual challengers are not really a change at all. But in this case it is, or at least it appears to be. So the excitement about it.
Sorry but this is idealistic at best. People well and truly vote for candidates in the USA, and in general they seem to be confused at situations like Australia or the UK where we vote for parties. The figurehead however little power they may have in reality can make or break the opinion of a party. I mean just go through the history here on Slashdot (a typically more thinking and level headed crowd than what you get on most media sites) to see comment like "Well I would have voted democrat but definitely not Clinton" or "I'm a republican but I'm not going to vote at all this year, not for that guy".
In general you're right with the swing towards an incumbent when times are good, but this is only a small factor.
The extremely weird thing is that casino boss and real estate swindler is overtly far more corrupt than even that yet he is listened to.
Vote for the casino boss that cares for the little people (yeah, right), is the line he pushes and he really rubs in that all of us are little compared with him. It's the fucking aristocracy that George Washington threw out all over again.
The mainstream media may intensify its one sided attacks, though both candidates are clearly questionable on a number of issues, and it only shows how biased their reporting is. This just shows contempt for the intelligence of their audience. The media should report, and let the judging to the people.
It also means tories, royalists and aristocrats (in addition to Bill Clinton who is on the right on a global scale).
I know you are joking but he is definitely all for an aristocracy with the very rich as the new lords, which makes him very much right wing.
The line "journalists at Buzzfeed"...."journalists". Can't be right, surely.
He had a very good personal friend running Fox. That and his persistent trolling got him attention, as he worked out during the birther attention seeking thing.
Progressive does NOT automatically equal Democrat. I'm am so sick and tired of everyone only seeing two sides, turning everything into a razor thin monolith with D on one side and R on the other. Perhaps you've heard of President Dwight D. Eisenhower, who said "In all those things which deal with people, be liberal, be human. In all those things which deal with people's money, or their economy, or their form of government, be conservative." Once upon a time there was a movement of Progressive Republicans.
"To destroy this invisible government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day." This was back in 1912. plus ça change, plus c'est la.
Who do I stand with? Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Dwight D. Eisenhower, and other like them. Both "parties" are morally corrupt, and under the control of the planet-spanning corpocracy. We had a chance with Sanders, but we squandered it. Johnson is a joke. Trump is only in this for Trump, Inc. Hillary is inherently unlikable, and is a corporate puppet who only changed her tune at all because of Sanders. Neither should be President.
However, given the "choice" we've been presented, I still would rather have a corrupt, mean politician as opposed to a megalomaniac who is intent on building an oligarchy like his buddy Putin.
People well and truly vote for candidates in the USA, and in general they seem to be confused at situations like Australia or the UK where we vote for parties.
Sorry to disagree, but that doesn't check with the fact that, in the USA, only candidates from the two big parties have a chance to run successfully for the presidency. If people really voted for candidates, then an independent candidate would have an even chance of winning, and that's absolutely not the case. Even in this election, with two deeply flawed candidates, independents cannot even make it to the TV live debate.
Rome taught me patience and assiduous application to detail. Virtues which temper the boldness of great, general views.
Because Trump is a "friend" of Big Media. He knows all the stakeholders by first name. They've all been to his "resorts" for free, they are all bought and paid for by Trump, Inc. Trump is no Republican. He's a White National fascist who used popularity to force the Republican party into a nomination. He's using the same playbook the Communists did after the death of Lenin...fear, confusion, obfuscation of reality to the point the only thing people know to be "real" is Trump himself.
A land where any loudmouthed trustfund baby can become President :) Watch Trump for long enough and you'll work it out, he wants a fucking aristocracy and serfs so if you are in the white middle class he wants you in your place down with the working poor. He wants us to have less rights so we can't get in the way of his cronies.
We'll never have a long-term viable multi-party system. Splintering has happened many times before. But with our "majority rules" and "winner takes all" system, it will always evolve back into just two parties. The only way to have true multiple parties is to add another "house" that is based on proportional representative voting of registered parties. For example, if there are a million people, and 100 seats, any party who has at least 10,000 registered, voting members gets a seat. The seats themselves are decided via a party-only vote.
WTF is this American fascination with saying that you're throwing your vote away?
NO! You are telling both of the leading parties that they are so fucked up they don't DESERVE your vote!
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Look up "Brexit" - see how that attitude you describe went in that vote.
I am not a US citizen and don't even care much about politics. On the other hand, I am seeing a somehow common pattern everywhere: equivalent problems, provoking realities like Trump to appear and similar shortsightedness allowing them to flourish.
:)). On the other hand, I don't work for the media and for opinion-influencers seriously interested in helping everyone see the long-term/best-for-the-most picture. Although I am pretty good at spotting problems and do see that media attempts to undermine the influence of Trump (and similar attitudes) are actually intensifying it. Most of media seems to be mostly concerned about convincing themselves (and people like them) that his triumph is impossible, rather than about understanding that the decision is actually in the hands of people about whom they don’t even care.
I am not saying that we are witnessing never-happened-before situations. In fact, human history is full of equivalent episodes; our cyclic evolution is formed by many lows, ups and learning from mistakes. In any case, there is a problem which should ideally be fixed.
The initial seed is the same than every time before: fear (to lose what you have, to feel unsafe, to be irrelevant, etc.). Egoist people exclusively interested in their own gain are also the ones taking advantage from this situation. And as usual, those in a position to somehow minimise the impact are either misassessing its importance or not used to a new-to-them reality. Trump-like attitudes are very old story, but somehow unusual lately and in certain countries like USA or UK (via Brexit). There are even other situations, like what has recently happened in my own country (Spain), apparently different but essentially identical: egoist interests growing supported by manipulating the fears of the many which ironically will be the ones losing the most.
All this has even nothing to do with left/right, democrats/republicans. It is just about egoism growing via hypocritically showing an inexistent interest in others, mainly about those whose number is higher and who only want to believe that someone really cares about their specific concerns. In fact, Donald Trump represents an excellent example of ideology-free pure-egoism-driven personality. I have read quite a few bad things about Hillary Clinton and no idea what to believe. Honestly, I don't have a strong opinion about her, not even about its party (as said, I am not American and don't follow politics much). This post isn't even about recommending her as the not-so-bad alternative. This post is about highlighting what Trump represents. He isn't a politician (not even a corrupt one), but a businessman looking for new ways to make more money.
Internet and the huge amount of available information (easily misused and misunderstood) has certainly had a big impact on this fear-backed raise of egoism. Media and intellectual elites seem also to be misjudging their exact influence and the best way to proceed. The recent Brexit was an excellent example on this front: the elites hugely misassessed the true impact of their opinion and pro-"no" campaigns. They didn't worry about communicating with the higher number of voters; and preferred to blindly trust in their self-assessed authority where anyone not seeing the evidence was wrong. I am certainly not the kind of person in a position to lecture anyone about how to talk to the many; in fact, this is one of my weakest points (even worse: I don't see it as a weakness and plainly don't care
In summary, this post isn't about politics or parties, but about avoiding short-sighted egoism to succeed. Trump (and similar personalities and movements) doesn't care about anyone other than himself; If you can benefit him (or those surrounding him), he would certainly help you, otherwise not. Allowing this kind of people to have so much power will never be a good idea. In any case, thinking that someone like Trump can care about anyone different than himself would be extremely naive.
Custom Solvers 2.0 = Alvaro Carballo Garcia = varocarbas.
Do you really want someone who is that much of a control freak running the country?
Journalists, online or not (but online sounds far more "sinister") launch scathing attack on man who never pays tax, had a hard life after being given a massive wad of cash.
So sad.
Hillary skinned trump alive in the first debate. His skin was going to be used to cover the outhouse door but he is fat and the skin stretched almost all the way around the outhouse. Bill Maher pegged it correctly explaining Trump's hair and facial colors. It is simple. His father was an orangutan. It is a national humiliation that a man such as Trump could actually be a candidate for our highest office. Other nations think we have gone stark raving, full Bozo, crazy.
His returns will show he's not a billionaire. To him that's the worst possible thing for the media to be able to prove. He'd rather be known as a crazy jerk than a pure charlatan.
He didn't write it but he did sign it. Bill Clinton was left wing on everything but the economy. And like he said, "It's the economy, stupid!" Bill Clinton was the last president to work with an opposition congress to accomplish anything. If the motherfucker could keep his pants zipped he could have gone down in history as one of the best presidents ever. Obama had a Democrat controlled congress and he used it to ram a shitty health care bill down everyone's throat. He got what he wanted but pissed off enough people to destroy the Democrats majority in both houses. We had a really good Democrat representative in my district until after he voted for that bill. Before Obamacare he was a sure thing every election. That one vote for the AHCA ended his political career. Now we have a tea party Republican.
You're the reason I am voting for Trump.
Smug, condescending, insulting elitist asshole. I would rather be dead than be on your side.
I know that during the Republican primaries the media coverage of Trump was largely one of wonder. "How is this happening." It wasn't really that positive it was more like he was the agent of change and the non politician that was challenging the elites. This perception was largely what I saw. There was a lot of criticism of his immigration views by the media but by and large it didn't start to get nasty until they realized that he could actually win. It's almost impossible to have positive coverage about two such awful candidates. Every single time I hear someone say something good about either one I want to laugh. The only thing I actually like about Trump is that he's not Hilliary.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09...
I can't believe he was stupid enough to say that in public.....or private either.
in 2010 republicans were voted in to stop obama at ANY cost. That is exactly what they have done for the last 6 years. not try to fix the country, or lower taxes, but to stop the Obama at ANY cost.
Those costs including stopping the government from doing anything useful. taxes, jobs, immigration, Obama has had to go around congress to do anything instead of working with them. Every time Obama tried to work with Congress Republicans would agree indiviually and then cut back and change their minds as a group.
Hillary is a mistake, but republicans can't stop Donald, and that is far far scarier. Republicans think that once in office he will settle down and run the country like a business. The problem is Donald runs his businesses like he has his campaign. with an iron fist, and no help or good ideas from anyone else. Donald doesn't settle down, he doesn't calm down. He will drive this country apart, blame everyone but himself as he never accepts responsiblity. His answer to inner city crime, is literally jack booted thugs, and random strip searches. He has stated that freedom of the press should be taking away, Freedom of speech should be taken away,, Freedom of religion should be taken away and the right to bear arms is too broad and should be taken away. Those are from his speeches. He couched the each in political think of the kids phrasing but he said them all.
Now do you want a person in the white house who believes the president has unlimited authority, backed by a congress who can't, and won't tell him no. Who has stated that the first 4 freedoms of the Bill of Rights need to be modified?
Or do you want a person in the white house who is a political insider to whom congress will not only tell no to as they have for the last 6 years but will actively override her every decision out of shear spite.
4 more years of what we have is a lot better than turning this country over to Hitler.
i thought once I was found, but it was only a dream.
Or have you considered that you're being lied to and manipulated, and the smart people of Slashdot see through the bullshit more clearly?
Hillary will say anything to get elected and change nothing. (Barack Obama, 2008)
What species is the organism developing inside a fertilized chicken egg?
Salmonella?
Vote for Trump = Drop napalm on the whole F-ing thing.
(including yourself, the economy, social progress, etc)
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Sounds like that study construes negative coverage about a politician as positive if it reports he is gaining ground. So "TRUMP IS HITLER AND MUST BE STOPPED BEFORE HE ASSASSINATES HILLARY" is a positive story...
You need to look at the media coverage of all Republican candidates together to understand what happened. The candidates thought to be the strongest opponents against Hillary received the harshest treatment (Christy, Romney, Rubio, and Cruz).
Trump was considered a non-threat, him getting the nomination was supposed to ensure an easy victory for Clinton. The long knives didn't really come out until poll numbers showed Trump actually having a chance to win. Now that he's ahead you see the hysteria.
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You stupid faggot you don't get to vote until you finish childhood. Go join the army and do something useful you fucking retard!
You are antsemetic piece of shit
Why does Putin need Trump for that? Hillary would work just as well.
I'm not a biologist or a natural historian. Let me consult an appropriate reference or expert, and while I'm doing that, perhaps you could tell us all just what the fuck that has to do with being president of the US?
only candidates from the two big parties have a chance to run successfully for the presidency
That's because the other parties tend to run:
1) Avowed communists or other loons
2) Supposed doctors who believe in homeopathy
3) Would-be presidents who can't name a single leader of another country.
Why would such people every gain any traction with a majority of the people in the US? The certainly can't get together enough people to support their campaign operations at a level that makes them strongly visible in a country of hundreds of millions of people - because would-be supporters look at them, weigh their absurd positions against reality, and walk away.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
We had a chance with Sanders, but we squandered it.
No, we dodged a bullet. His entire world view is based on either pure fantasy, or on making productive people slaves to non-productive people and calling that a virtue. Even Hillary Clinton (who is currently doing her best in public to pretend she likes what Sanders stands for, because she's wildly pandering to low-information young people who want free stuff) says in private (audio recording just released!) that Sanders' supporters are unrealistic live-in-mom's-basement people who want free stuff and don't know what they're talking about. She may be an evil witch, but she's correct about that. Of course, being an evil witch, she'll still lie her ass off and pretend to embrace those people's wish lists long enough to get elected. Nothing new there.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
You'd assume most blue collar workers who do pay a shitload in taxes would be pissed by that line of thinking.
You really think that most blue collar workers, as they file their 1040EZ or have that HR Block guy in the kiosk at the mall do their taxes ... don't check every box available to them that reduces their tax burden? That's what you think?
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
Which word?
See that "Preview" button?
Have you thought about what might be wrong with your world view that prevents your beliefs from matching up with objective reality?
That's a good example of a Loaded Question.
Have you thought about what might be wrong with your world view that prevents your beliefs from matching up with objective reality?
He seems to believe that the majority of Americans are sensible, informed people who make rational choices in politics?
The fool!
only candidates from the two big parties have a chance to run successfully for the presidency. If people really voted for candidates, then an independent candidate would have an even chance of winning, and that's absolutely not the case.
Those two are unrelated. People don't vote for minor candidates because especially in the USA it is seen as throwing away your vote. In countries with a preferential voting system minor parties end up getting seats in all houses of parliament as people can vote for them without effectively removing themselves from the system. Also you give your minor parties too much credit. The other big problem with minor parties is that for the most part many people agree with a set of ideas they have but also believe they are completely incapable of governing. They are often plagued with the same bat-shit crazy ideas underneath that we are currently criticising trump for.
E.g. I voted for the greens one election hoping that they'd get my local seat. I would not have done so if they had a chance at another seat in parliament too because while they are an important voice that needs to be part of the political system their full array of policies would end our lives as we know it.
I'm not in tune enough with the American system to know the minor candidates, but when I look at most other countries you end up with
a) the pirate party.
b) someone with great ideas on small government who's also an insane racist.
c) someone who is an antivaxxer.
d) someone who believes that they can fix absolutely everything but is incapable of coming up with a plan to pay for it.
e) someone who's entire idea is the overnight shutdown of all coal and nuclear power plants and an instant ban on all combustion engines, not to mention the shutdown of all industry that would dare hurt plant or animal life.
Among these insanes are some great ideas and some good policy, but damn would we be in trouble if they ever got complete power.
It scares the crap out of me that here on Slashdot, a site with presumably smart people like engineers and programmers, so many people are defending and rooting for Donald Trump.
Ever consider that the world could benefit greatly from anti-establishment anarchy? I'm sure the people rooting for Trump aren't rooting for the man, but rather the idea that it would finally shake the shit out of the establishment and maybe wake up a government who most definitely is no longer for the people or by the people.
I just want to point out to everyone that "American Third Position" is an actual neo-Nazi white supremacist organization. If you don't believe me, go look for yourself.
Yes, they come here to Slashdot, too.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Slashdot has been one of the few places I have been able to go for decades to get news of all kinds, with a focus on tech. I have been so please to not see it turn into the usual flame-wars that most other forums are. Until now. This is not the place for political commentary. If one person is allowed to make thinly disguised politically motivated posts then others will too until this forum descends into just another rant forum where empty vessels make a lot of noise.
I love Slashdot - please don't do it!
Thanks.
That's a bit extreem don't you think? Jack booted thugs? Seriously, Hitler? C'mon, no one buys that. Also, Donald Trump is running on the republican ticket, but he is far from an establishment republican like Jeb Bush is. Hilary is literally a 30 year career politician at various levels of government. She is the embodiment of Claire Underwood, with less sex appeal, and more political savvy, if thats even possible.
Also, I didn't say Donald Trump is a good guy, or a good leader. I only said that he found a nerve in American society today, which suffers at the hands on the special interests, locked in a dance with American politics.
But about that business of his. No doubt, he owns some of the most fantastic addresses in the world. The real-estate under his towers in Manhattan are worth quite literally billions. You don't get your company to that size "with an iron fist, and no help or good ideas from anyone else", or by "blaming everyone but himself as he never accepts responsibility".
Donald's organization The Trump Organization has tens of thousands of employees, activities spanning the globe, and is a model for modern business, leveraging its brand and assets. America could use some of that kind of thinking. Stop fixating on the "politically incorrect" in what he says. Before judging someone on their rants, ask yourself "what is the most important part of his job". I don't care if my dentist is a muslim-hating womanizer, as long as he does my dental work well. Likewise, I don't care if Donald trump disparaged women in a Larry King episode, or suggested "stop and frisk". We aren't electing a president of the National Organization of Women, or a chief of the NYPD. We are electing a president. I want him to curb our addition to international intervention, and improve our economy by moving it more towards a "laissez faire" economic model. Something he might be familiar with having an education in economics from one of the worlds best schools for that stuff.
trump supporters - I know most of you, no the vast majority are neither stupid nor racist
yet whenever we point out trumnp flaws, the answer is always hillary !! benghazi !!!
how about addressing trumps issues for once ?
1) look at how he was unable, totally unable to resist clintons needling him in the debate and his ballistics wierdness on ms universe
is he gonna go ballistic if putin dumps on him ? is that really what you want next to the nuclear button ?
2) Trump lies constantly (I really shouldn't have to provide a url for this), he is a sleaze who stiffs small businessmen (a) and he is a con artist (a)
3) he draws the support of the small number of people who are crazy (c) or racist (read alt ride blogs)
4) his policies are stupid: there are fewer coal jobs cause of *technology* (same amt of coal today, fewer workers); the oil companies didn't bid on gulf cause fracking is cheaper; 20 years ago, trade and offshoring were issues; today the issue is robots and automation
5) he is really gonna round up 11 (no, not 20) million illegals ? what if all the us born kids file lawsuits demanding to stay and demanding care as orphans ? can you imagine the clusterf ? mass deportation - the lawyers employment act
6) his economic plans, to the extent he has any, are huge tax cuts for the rich
do you like national parks ? the FDA ? the nih, NTSB, ? they are in for huge cuts
7) as pointed out in ny times editorial, his infrastructure program proposal is based on double dip accounting, it is a stupid proposal
8) virtually every GOP economist who served with bush I, bush II, mccain or romney thinks trump is stupid
nearly every one
9) you all seem to distrust the mainstream media, but far as i can tell, benghazi and vince foster are gop delusions; no there there ,mainly to hide govt errors !! and i bet you can probably find wall str journal or national review articles to that effect !!
okay, the email thing was stupid, but i bet dollars to donuts that if a gop person did the same, the right wing meme would be, the gov't classifies way to much stuff
10) when ever he looses, he whines. is that a winner ? is that really what you want as commander in chief ?
11) trashing the constitution and banning muslims (who are, this is true, *one percent us population*!!) ain't gonna help terrorism (why don't we ban ex soldiers - after all, T McVeigh ???)
Terrorism is either quasi state actors (ISIL) which requires stronger democratic states , or lone wolf teen guys - and teenage males are always with us and some are wierd; i bet if you track killings by teen age men, it is constant, what changes is their motivation whih is solely driven by wht they read in the news; if terror is big in the news, the teenager fantasizes about terror; if going postal is big, he fantasizes about terror
answer is jobs
a
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06...
Trump U targets grieving army war widow:
The sales pitches seeking to separate Cheryl Lankford from her money began during the recession as she struggled to get back on her feet after the death of her husband, an American soldier serving in Iraq.
Two of them were from companies that have boasted the Trump name.
One was Trump University, the real estate sales seminar that Donald J. Trump promoted as a way for average people to profit from opportunities in the housing market. Ms. Lankford said she spent $35,000 from an Army insurance payment to learn Mr. Trump’s secrets.
also this one
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06...
and
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08...
b
so, your argument is that Trump is okay cause he isn't a worse sleaze then hillary
like you kid comes home from school and says i cheated on a test, but the other kids cheated more
and you say, well, if the other kids cheated more, then it is okay that you cheated ?
that is your argument ?
It scares the crap out of me that the supposedly intelligent left can't seem to question even basic facts put in front of them.
In case you care - I have lived abroad for years, have had many passports, don't live in my mother's basement, and graduated college.
I often have to defend trump because you idiots (media, people, and dems) constantly throw out charges about shit he didn't say.
At the same time, I'm not voting for him.
But it's ludicrous to think of yourselves as so fucking smart when most of you don't even research the shit you're attacking him with. THATs what everyone is angry about and you are half the reason people are voting for the fuck it option - they are voting against your pretentious bullshit.
One thing is for sure, it has nothing to do with intelligence.
Intelligence is backing up your political views with facts, sound logic, and reason. Gary Johnson, for example, agrees with the science of climate change, but considers protecting business interests to be a higher priority than the environment. You may disagree with that position from a moral perspective (personally, I do), but his logic is undeniable.
Donald Trump thinks climate change is a Chinese conspiracy to harm our economy. Many of Donald Trump's positions are based on superstitions, incorrect assumptions, and irrational fears. Sorry, but it's the textbook definition of lacking intelligence, if you can't see why supporting such a candidate is indicative of suffering from idiocy.
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he lost (lost) a billion dollars and you and i are paying for it
super moocher
It scares the crap out of me that here on Slashdot, a site with presumably smart people like engineers and programmers, so many people are defending and rooting for Donald Trump.
Maybe because they're tired of politically correct bullshit like Black Lives Matter and open borders.
Either Slashdot is not as intelligent as I thought, or it is more right-wing than I thought, which of course is not exclusive.
Are you going to defend Clinton? Because the choice is between a corrupt, establishment politician vs a corrupt businessman. The only reason I'm leaning Trump is because he's willing to be politically incorrect.
Trump spent way too much building the Taj Mahal because everything had to be "the best" for his ego, and then when he was already overextended he also bought the Plaza Hotel in NYC. At the time this was all Trump's personal dealings, not public, and he personally guaranteed all the loans. 1995 was the year he took his casinos public to deflect some of the losses to the investors, but he couldn't cover it all. The reason it all went south was that a few years before Mississippi legalized gambling, and quickly became the preferred destination for everyone who lived south of the Carolinas. All the AC casinos took a hit from the new competition, but Trump was far too overextended to handle the contraction.
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You'd assume most blue collar workers who do pay a shitload in taxes would be pissed by that line of thinking.
Or at least be reminded of what happened to Al Capone.
But nope, most Trump supporters are too busy hating on Hillary, brown skins, LGBTs, etc. to care what Trump represents as an actual political leader. He could be out in the street clubbing puppies, and the "Make America White Again" folks would still vote for him.
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I'll play:
>Hillary is the candidate proposing to launch physical wars against cyber-attackers, the biggest two of which are big nuclear powers.
Should cyber warfare be governed by different rules? Do you imagine Russia's response would be to hackers in Uzbekistan releasing internal Kremlin emails to the world would be anything less than forceful? Or, if it were taken a step further, if the attack was leveled against their voting apparatus itself, to produce an outcome that the Uzbeks preferred? Do you think that Russia would say "well, it's only a cyber attack, we'll keep the gloves on"?
> Trump is the candidate who wants the US to stop being Team America: World Police.
It's hardly clear that this is the fact. Yes, he speaks of stepping back from NATO, but then, not really. But he certainly advocates a foreign policy that is based on "we're strongest, you do what we want", which will mean we'll need force projection just as much, if not more, than we do currently. He's spoken of waging all out war on Islamic Extremists, how exactly will he do that with the military brought back within our national boundaries?
> The candidate with then 20 years of bad political experience is the one who wants to perpetuate the current failed policies that have brought the US to the brink of bankruptcy and an internal race war.
That is Trumps true "advantage" over clinton, having had a career where his decisions were never open to outside scrutiny. That doesn't mean he has any more insight, or would not have embarked on the same failed policies, it just means that his vote is not a part of the public record.
But then... you go on to bring out two specific examples. Brink of bankruptcy and racial tensions.
First, we're hardly at the "brink of bankruptcy" - yes we have amassed a huge debt, but that's a debt that could be addressed in time if we had the willingness to do so. Instead, the Right specifically complains about debt for decades now, and as a "solution" rolls out unfunded tax cuts as their proposed solution. That's like you household complaining about its debt and your parents saying "you know, the solution to this is we should our bosses to reduce our pay". Meanwhile, your newest candidate has shown his economic prowess by repeatedly driving his companies into bankruptcy. Wow. If, as you think, we're already at the brink, how can you think putting someone in charge who has a repeated history of making huge gambles that blow up in his face? A self proclaimed "king of debt", who has said his intention would be to boost our countries borrowings while interest rates are so low?
As for racial tensions - again a laughable accusation. Trump has been the one stoking racial tensions, for decades now. From housing discrimination, to advocating for the death penalty for the Central Park Five (who turned out to be innocent), to questioning the Presidents birth place, religion, etc, to launching his campaign claiming that Mexicans are rapists, and espousing an ideology that has reawakened racial sentiment to the point that the Grand Wizard of the KKK has decided to relaunch his political career. So, again, WOW.
> She's also accused of murdering 50 people, committing treason with state secrets, attacking several women her husband is accused of raping, and covering up health problems that may kill her during her first term, and money laundering and pay-for-play through the Clinton Foundation.
The thing is, anyone can level an accusation. In fact Trump is due in court shortly over a rather heinous accusation, himself. I'll leave you to look it up yourself.
And Treason requires intent, which there is none. Or rather her intend wasn't in betraying country, but in trying to keep political opponents at bay. It was certainly boneheaded and wrong, but not an attempt to overthrow the government. Meanwhile, while the GOP hounds her for 30,000 missing emails, they remain silent on the literally millions of emails that went missing from the Bush administration, many mem
Hillary said US should use 'military response' to fight cyberattacks
"As President, I will make it clear that the United States will treat cyberattacks just like any other attack. We will be ready with serious political, economic, and military responses"
https://www.techdirt.com/artic...
And this was after blaming Russia for the hacks
Vote Trump = Small hands and a gosh-darn good time for at least the next 4-years
Yeah, Trump's proposal to shut down the EPA will be great. Let's toast his victory with some refreshing Flint Michigan tap water!
Seriously, Trump supporters, if you want a huge wall, air pollution out the wazoo, no gay marriage, and plenty of low-paid manufacturing jobs: FUCKING MOVE TO CHINA.
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DRM is like antifreeze, to the MPAA/RIAA it's sweet, to the consumers it's poison.
Of course it shields assets. Why do you think it exists? Hillary's speech fees are paid to the foundation - this is public knowedlge. The foundation is nonprofit, this is on record. The reason for doing this is obvious: non-profits have tax advantages: she gets to keep more of her money, it's just kept in the nonprofit.
I'm not saying this is illegal - unfortunately, it is legal. It is a common way for rich people to avoid taxes.
As for whether or not the Clinton Foundation is "really" nonprofit, consider: A really good nonprofit that is genuinely supporting a cause puts somewhere between 75% and 90% of its income into whatever cause it supports. The Clinton Foundation has a rather different record. For example, in 2015 the New York Post published numbers from 2013 showing that they foundation spend $9 million (out of a budget of $140 million) on charity, Many times that amount when to payroll, employee benefits, travel and other expenses. You can find similar information from other sources, covering other years.
The Clinton Foundation is a legal organization, doing legal things. It's primary purpose is to provide a way for the Clintons to shield their money from taxes, and to provide salaries to their cronies. This kind of loophole exists, because taxes are for the little people.
Enjoy life! This is not a dress rehearsal.
Well you will be "rich" under Clinton.
Marxism, obviously.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
TFA is not a Trump or Hillary issue, it's an issue of truth and the complete loss of Journalism in the USA. I don't read or watch any "news" intentionally today because it has become pure propaganda. The same shit that we used to make fun of the Pravda for when I was a kid is on open display in the US today. Instead of being pissed off about being openly manipulated, plenty of people support the propaganda.
Looking at the majority of posts here, very few are suggesting that media has become a drastic issue. Media has been an issue, if you want an eye opener go read some Ann Coulter ("Guilty" is a good one) and validate the references and sources she lists in her books. Dollars to donuts trolls will probably comment negatively about Ann Coulter in response instead of addressing points she lays out factually in her books.
Thankfully, enough people have been exposed to the game that propaganda is having the opposite effect. It may not be enough people, and it may not have been soon enough, but I have hope. Many people I know have done the same thing I did and started ignoring "media" and reading sources and listening to speakers directly. Media trustworthiness is rightly at an all time low in the US, lower than either Presidential candidate. Issues are not discussed, it's all personal attack all the time. It is so obviously one sided that you should immediately see which side the media is favoring. That more than anything should be considered in your selection of a Candidate.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
That's exactly my view of this whole insane debacle.
Hillary is terrible, terrible candidate...but Trump is worse than her by several orders of magnitude.
Like you, I can't even understand why anyone has to ponder this, or why there are any "undecided" voters. I mean, WTF??
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
I dislike both of them, but if I have to pick, I pick corrupt politics/status quo president. I did vote for Bernie not Clinton to be nominated for president, but for some reason more people voted Clinton.
is that his administration will succeed in burning BOTH the GOP and Democratic parties to the ground.
Neither party deserves to survive this election cycle.
Bernie had a platform and a history. They don't match. He is a _red_.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
So how is he going to get things done and "Make America Great Again"
Silly voter, he's just going to do it. Trust him, he has a secret plan. Remember, he knows more about ISIS than the generals (he said so himself!). And he has "the best temperament", the "best memory", and "has the best words". Those are all direct quotes so you know they're true!
When he gets elected we'll wake up the next day and the streets will be clean, kids will say "Sir" and "Ma'am", and Leave It To Beaver will be back on the TV machine. Black people will know their place again, atheists will once again be persecuted as is proper, and mothers will go back to the kitchens where they'll spend all day cooking tasty, nutritious food for the whole family again. It'll be glorious!
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
His returns show the facts and figures of his business. From there it's simple to deduce his net worth. Hell, they've almost managed it without his returns. Actual documents will simply tweak the figures and give his opponents a chance to wave actual numbers in public.
Wow.
The first line of this post is 'you are not as intelligent as you think you are'
The second line is 'I'm a blithering moron' para ('I'm an old school socialist').
What's the key flaw in socialism? You should be able to answer...(unhealthy concentration of power).
What do you think of capitalists that don't know the flaws in their own political philosophy? (externalities, regulatory capture) That is you!
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Same rules. If you attack someone you simply hope (for political reasons) attacked you, you are a moron.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Arguably, he is.
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Says more about you than anything else. You are somewhere to the left of Stalin.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
If only there was an economic system where the workers get to keep the fruits of their labours...
Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.
I am wanting a few reform in the economic and politic current environment, but wanting reform does not mean putting a gun to your figurative head and pulling the trigger. I want reform with a good candidate, and doing a protest vote with an utterly disturbing populist candidate like trump is then being an utter imbecile.
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Have you thought about what might be wrong with your world view that prevents your beliefs from matching up with objective reality?
Yes. I usually regarded Americans as more intelligent than this. Maybe i'm dead wrong.
What are people supposed to do when the other candidate declares them "enemies"? Flawed as he is, if Trump is your only hope to avoid being treated like an enemy by your country's government, why wouldn't you support him?
"it could have allowed him to legally avoid paying any federal income taxes for up to 18 years..."
Note the use of the word "Legally".
If you don't like what he did, change the law, don;t bitch about him following it. There are plenty of other corps (such as Apple) doing similar things.
Besides just that fact that what Trump did is actually legal would automatically make it fuck load better than MANY things Clinton and her foundation has done/is doing.
No, I'm using it correctly in every sense. I'm using it to refer both to Marx's own ideas, and to the ideas of the people that call themselves Marxists because their philosophy is rooted in his ideas.
Come back after you've read Capital yourself, and the archives of the Frankfurt School. Then we can talk.
See that "Preview" button?
Oh, my mistake. I was unaware that only questions about the US presidency were allowed on this site.
Or, alternatively, your response is the exact reason why the question is relevant.
Thirdly, you don't need a degree in biology to answer a very straightforward question.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
Thank you for your reply. I've asked that question on /. before, and you are the first person who has responded with anything resembling an actual answer to the question.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
Of course they do. But they still pay. No one likes paying taxes, but that's a far cry from sympathizing with a loudmouth who flat out declares he pays no taxes because he's smart in a nothing less than a presidential debate.
Of course, in Europe, anyone who thinks people have the right to own property is "right wing".
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
He didn't write it but he did sign it.
He signed it so he would get re-elected.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
Oh, my mistake. I was unaware that only questions about the US presidency were allowed on this site.
In a discussion about Donald Trump's knowledge, the context is the fucking US presidency.
Or, alternatively, your response is the exact reason why the question is relevant.
Thirdly, you don't need a degree in biology to answer a very straightforward question.
I'm not sure a degree in biology would help know the scientific name for any chicken, let alone how to differentiate between several hundred fucking breeds.
Face it, you asked a stupid question and you got a more dignified answer than you deserved. Just what the fuck is your point, because it's completely passing me by.
But they still pay
Actually, only about half of the people pay. Many blue collar types (since you mention them) pay very little or no federal income taxes at all, or even get cash "back" on the taxes they don't pay. A small minority of the other half pay the vast majority of all of the income taxes.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
Well good for you. Having lived abroad certainly sets you apart from Trump's base.
Can't really follow your critic though with regards to the attacks. I find the most effective campaign ads are those that use his own words verbatim against him.
And just for the record, I don't consider myself particularly left.
I've come to the conclusion that if Trump wins, we truly deserve him as our president. It doesn't mean I'll enjoy the russian roulette ride though.
"Be particularly skeptical when presented with evidence confirming what you already believe." -
Boy, they sure are smart then!
How can the system become stronger under her leadership if she's incompetent?
Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.
The Republican investigation found plenty of crimes. You're right about the FBI covering for her.
But, the reality is that if the US government crashes and burns, the whole world feels the pain with Americans getting the brunt of it. The US government does not exist in a protective barrier that we're shielded from. If it explodes, we get hit in the blast.
"Be particularly skeptical when presented with evidence confirming what you already believe." -
What would you call them if they didn't take advantage of the deductions that give them that you-owe-nothing status?
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
I am outraged that the US is embarrassing itself with the dirtiest race for the presidency ever, with the dirtiest candidates, and the dirtiest discussions surrounding it. The entire US has devolved into forum trolls, including the candidates. Yes, I am outraged. And embarrassed for my country. All of this was here before, but thankfully it has now come into the light and is completely undeniable. I hope others will share in my outrage and embarrassment and demand better for our country, and deny the presidency to both of the parties that have dragged our country down instead of building it up for far too long now.
We can do much better than this, an ugly race unfit for even the worst tabloids. There is no more diplomacy, no more facts, just rhetoric hyperbole and coverups. It's pathetic.
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Yes, yes...I'm sure Mr. Trump wants nuclear war...
Why would Putin want nuclear war? He's getting everything he wants, including land grabs and projection of military force, without it. Would he want the Crimea if it were a radioactive sheet of glass? Of course not.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Where were you the last decade? The US has been quite good at destabilizing itself without outside help. Increasing inequality between the 0.01% and everyone else, jobs that become more precarious with time, hyper-partisan media, deteriorating value of an education, etc. Trump vs Hillary is just a symptom.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
This 'state of being' that is being pushed by Progressives/Democrats has made me realize that these people don't have good intentions.
They may be stupid but of course they have good intentions. You, on the other hand, are a complete idiot who believes his/her own line of unreasonable and irrational bullshit. Face it; the above line proves beyond a doubt that you're either retarded or pyscho (likely a combination of each...).
You're right, Clinton would instead happily declare war against Russia. She will certainly continue the warmongering policy of Obama.
For God's sake, have you ever been to Cuba? I have. Twice. Last time i visited i had several offers to trade for my combs, shampoo and ibuprofen.
There's a good reason people still try to flee the island to Miami in makeshift rafts and not the other way around.
The mainstream news organizations have been completely missing until very recently. The information about Trump's income tax claim could have been uncovered by the NY Times at any time in the last two years, but it wasn't. He was getting a free ride from the entire mainstream press until a few weeks ago.
How could the Times covered tax returns it didn't have until recently? According the Times, someone anonymously mailed them the returns last week. Yes, they have wanted to see the returns since the beginning however Trump had not released them.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
Lynch-pin of stability? You've got to be kidding. Look at the Middle East. ISIS is the result of Americans meddling. 5 years of giving arms to anyone who said they would fight against Bashar al-Assad just increased the instability in the region. Russia achieved more in 1 month. Most of this could have been avoided if the US hadn't insisted on ousting Asaad, with no clear replacement. In retrospect, Asaad is still in power, the EU has been destabilized over refugees fleeing war, and Putin looks stronger than ever.
Aleppo is going to fall soon enough, and then it's just mopping up. Sometimes it's better to deal with the enemy/devil you know. In the instance of Syria, that's how it's turning out anyway, at huge cost.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Are we now taking the position that deducting losses is somehow 'Un-American'? Are going to eliminate medical deductions? Is the deductibility of interest paid on your mortgage at risk? This is just like when GM event bankrupt and Team Obama 'saved it', and allowed GM to 'avoid' paying any federal taxes for years as it also wrote off it's losses, which was in the billions as I recall. (BTW, by declaring bankruptcy GM should NOT have been able to retain the deduction from it's losses, but hey, that law only applies to the little people, not companies saved by Democrat politicians for the sake of a political meme - "We killed Osama Bin Laden and saved GM"
Nobody is going to care about these petty attacks from the media.
They can't stump the Trump.
Lol, Buzz Feed.
Yeah, I was going to say. "His biggest problem is the main stream media."
No.
The opposite is the case, the mainstream media's biggest problem is HIM.
They have fallen all over themselves to be the most biased they could be for leftists and to burn the smidge of credibility they had on this election as the result. People are tired of MSM horseshit. The petty little videos these two retards found will do nothing but tank their own careers.
Even if he loses, Trump is taking down the dumbass capitulating do-nothing right wing whackadoodles in the Republican party AND the main stream media. They hooked their wagons to leftist causes and democrats both of whom are now herding themselves off the cliff into the dustbin of history.
Amazing, wonderful, and couldn't come soon enough.
Obama had a Democrat controlled congress and he used it to ram a shitty health care bill down everyone's throat.
You didn't elaborate on what made it so shitty, so I'll suggest why (don't blame Obama): The only way this (health care for the masses) was ever going to come to reality was if those who stood the most to lose (insurers and providers of healthcare and medicine) had a say in its conceptual design. IOW, those who had the most to lose from changing the status quo limited the degree to which the status quo changed- naturally by lobbying the democrats as not a single republican voted for passage- they continue to this day to undermine the basic right of healthcare. As it turns out, this lead to insurance policies that are still too expensive for the intended recipients and insurers who resent having to cover those who most need it because it makes it hard for them to profit. The right thing to do was create a single payer system and congress (not Obama) totally half-assed the entire thing. Half a solution in this case was not a solution IMHO. OTOH, a few good things did come of it: coverage of preventive medicine, age increase of dependents, medicare improvements, pre-existing coverage, and more.
He got what he wanted but pissed off enough people to destroy the Democrats majority in both houses.
By that I take it you mean he drove state district gerrymandering to a new level of absurd. The resulting ideological makeup of congress is in no way reflective of the populations they purport to represent, nor the country as a whole.
Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
Sanders' supporters are unrealistic live-in-mom's-basement people who want free stuff and don't know what they're talking about
That's not at all what she was saying. She was saying many of them are still living with their parents because, after incurring large debts to attend college, they can't find a job, so they can't make any money to pay back the loans or move out on their own.
"If there was a gay Afro-Puertorican Linux distribution, I'd give it a try" ~lucm
Something he might be familiar with having an education in economics from one of the worlds best schools for that stuff.
Like he says: "...because I have a very good brain and I've said a lot of things..." and: "Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure, it's not your fault" (from a midnight Tweet?)
I'm a YUGE fan, very bigly convinced, in total admiration of his smartableness.
Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
Let me explain it to you slowly. The MSM wanted Trump to be the Republican nominee because he was easily beatable by the Democrats, unlike Ted Cruz. So they gave Trump loads of positive press, right until he got the nomination. At that point, he turned into Satan.
They've been portraying him negatively now to try to hurt him and help their candidate, Hillary Clinton.
Note that Gary Johnson has been in the news - headlines, even - because he apparently doesn't have other "world leaders" that he fawns over. Real big deal. Meanwhile, Hillary's poor choices in Libya are huge news right now in the UK and not even mentioned in the news here. Johnson is apparently pulling more Dems off Hillary than he's pulling Republicans off Trump, so they have to make stupid shit up about him so he'll be less appetizing to the potentially Hillary voters.
If you understand that the press overwhelmingly wants to elect Clinton, the stories that make headlines suddenly make sense.
Do you have ESP?
Yes, and was entirely unethical while practicing. She participated in an illegal real estate scheme, had her billing records from Rose Law Firm subpoenaed and "lost" them. Only to have them reappear, shortly after the statute of limitations expired, on a table in the private residence quarters in the White House. Corruption follows her every where she goes.
There are plenty of people under the age of 85 that fled communism to live in the United States. There are either people who have experienced or observed communism and fear it, and those who are too stupid to learn from history.
Watching Better Call Saul is not the same as actually checking with an attorney.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Yes, yes...I'm sure Mr. Trump wants nuclear war...
No, you're not. But given his statements about it, are completely sure that he does not want it? Given the stakes, do you think it wise to even consider a candidate for this particular office when such doubt exists?
If Trump had done nothing other than invest his initial "small loan" in index funds, reinvesting the dividends, he would be worth 12 billion dollars today. Even if he is worth the 4 billion he claims he is worth, he is still something of a failure as a businessman.
Ideology: A tool used primarily to avoid the bother of thinking.
You want to drop napalm on the whole F-ing thing? That's our government, our nation, and, frankly, our world. It's not like this napalm selectively hits 'corrupt politics'.
Reality is a slackware box running on a 386 tucked away in god's sock drawer.
the "mean" one is trump
the megalomaniac is clinton
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
I think you give Trump too much credit. People really, really dislike Clinton despite her progressive politics. People hate her, and not just conservatives.
This is an accurate observation. It's an emotional reaction, and there's no point is positing 'defensible' rationalizations for it. Research is needed to find out what human biases she activates, and exactly who is likely to have these biases.
How can you possibly argue that I don't have anything? In terms of global incomes, I'm in the top 0.1% of income earners. I buy shit all the time on Amazon that, at the end of the day, I don't really need. Factory workers in China that work 16 hour days don't have even an eighth of the shit that I have. Granted they take much longer work vacations than I do, their hourly rate is much lower.
Oh yes, right, the US public education has been run by liberals all over America for decades.
School board elections are just so rigged.
Trump was a "plant" to gaurentee Hillary "canckles" Clinton would get the Presidency. Trump and the Clinton's go WAY back they are friends, buddies business mates. They are both the most HATED, VILE people that could be running for the presidency! Hell I think a neo-nazi would be better! The U.S. is SOOOO screwed and the average sheeple/lemming doesn't even know it.
The Truth is a Virus!!!
I have read it. In the original language, in fact. It was kind of a set book in the GDR, you know. So yes, you keep using that word...
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
Certainly would keep status quo, but war against Russia? Do you know this for fact or are guessing....?
Get up!
But the parties, and what they embrace as contemporary policy priorities, change over time. Parties come and go entirely (as they've done in this country). People assemble into groups. That is perfectly natural, and of course they don't want to lose their voice or power, so they try to make that group as large as they can, even if it means compromising on things. A sufficiently sane "third" party would draw the same grouping as other parties did when they turned into what we happen to see as the two main parties today.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
People do care, but it is having an opposite effect because the american population is not trusting the media that much
If they want to stump the trump, they should all act like they got bought by him, but that would be too much un-PC.
Embrace the truth Slashdot, the Bible is true, we're on the doorstep of Armageddon, and if you don't know what's in the Bible you don't have a clue as to why the world seems to be losing it's sanity.
The blood of Jesus saves. We all need salvation. None of us can save ourselves.
When the king heard the words of the Book of the Law he tore his robes.2Kings22:11
Social anarchism is part of socialism and it is against concentration of power. I think you should educate yourself about political ideologies before giving your opinion, because right now you look like an idiot.
I was not talking about the intelligence of Trump, I was talking about the reason why people would support Trump, despite Trump being who he is. If you think supporting Trump means being an idiot, maybe you should consider that people may have greater motives that you obviously do not understand.
A vote for Clinton is a vote for someone who enjoys killing people and thinks it's funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?.... Face it the only thing that is happening is main stream media is making a fool of itself and very few people believe anything it has to say. The current US election has become one great steaming hot pile of cow manure. So many pseudo celebrities have turned their names to shite with moneyed poltical bias and blatant showing the nobodies how the rich buy elections.
The bullshit of blaming Russia and China for the corrupt mess corporations and politicians have made of US elections is a joke. Who will they blame next 'Anonymous'. As their propaganda fails, so they spread more and look even worse and so they spread more and etc why, because they lie to each other as well. The paid propagandist lie about their propaganda effectiveness so they can sell even more. Main stream media makes a shit bucket ton of profit from the elections, hence they pump it up even further to sell even more. You have the US military spending 500 million dollars on terrorist propaganda, why, you even think they actually spent one tenth of that on productive propaganda or was it all profits and kicks and just barely enough spent on the propaganda to make it look like that money was spent on propaganda. The reason why it has all become such a mess, is they are stabbing each other in the back and undermining each others efforts, so they individually can get the snouts deeper into the trough. US government agencies in conflict with each other because of different political appointees working the causes of different competing corporations.
Want more of the same bullshit, than keep right on voting the second worst candidate, this has been the game for decades and you morons are still lapping it up.
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
You need to look at the media coverage of all Republican candidates together to understand what happened. The candidates thought to be the strongest opponents against Hillary received the harshest treatment (Christy, Romney, Rubio, and Cruz). [...] The long knives didn't really come out until poll numbers showed Trump actually having a chance to win. Now that he's ahead you see the hysteria.
And similarly, if you look at the study, the strongest opponent (singular, since there was only one) against the Republican frontrunners received the harshest treatment. The situation is entirely symmetrical, except that none of the strong Republican candidates won.
What the study essentially showed was that the mainstream media treats what it perceives to be the frontrunners on both sides more harshly. Neither Trump nor Sanders were treated as harshly precisely because nobody thought they had a chance. They are now making up for lost time on Trump.
It is true that there was a large amount of coverage on Trump. The linked version of the study does not show the breakdown between "positive" and "neutral" coverage of Trump. Assuming it's almost all "neutral" (which seems likely), the amount of coverage of Trump is explainable by the fact that pretty much everything Trump does is a headline of one sort or other.
There's no evidence of a conspiracy here. (Like all conspiracies, perhaps lack of evidence is evidence of a cover-up?) It's just that the tactic which works for the news outlets (in the sense of maximising eyeballs) most of the time backfired spectacularly this time.
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So in other words, you and the GP define "smart" as "agrees with my politics".
No. It has zero to do with politics as much as all of the above being proven, documented crooks. I don't expect anyone to agree with my political views, but i kinda expected people i regarded as smart to accept facts when presented to them. I was proved wrong.
Just because one is educated doesn't mean one speaks eloquently. It really is a skill that takes practice.
1) I want the entire political system to die.
2) I want the banks to follow it to hell.
3) I want a future for young people.
In that order.
Got Geometrodynamics? Awe, too hard to figure out? Too bad.
Well, he's managed to buy some nice property along the way. Eventually it might be worth a few bucks.
No, but he was the only one to do it in 1995.
The difference is that the ones Hillary employed actually got paid. Donald Trump? Not so much.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/do...
http://www.vanityfair.com/news...
http://www.foxnews.com/politic...
You are welcome on my lawn.
It baffles me how/why anyone could actually defend this man. He doesn't even attempt to hide how bad he is.
It's complicated, and some voters aren't even in the same world as you are any longer. For some people this is no longer Democrats vs. Republicans, but establishment vs. anti-establishment. We are at the point that many people both on the left and right feel that voting for the candidate that represents them less is a strategy worth considering out of fear that their own nominee is giving their party cancer.
This election has been so foul that there isn't really a "lesser" evil any longer. The whole "lesser evil" paradigm has been pushed to such an extreme that it's just Evil vs. Evil now and we are looking at a lose-lose situation. During the recent debate did either candidate talk about Citizens United? Which of the major candidates will mean less war, or even if you like war, smarter war? One is a threatening, blood-soaked Secretary of State that never changes and never learns, and the other is a hot head with a fragile ego. Many of the things you fear from Trump, Clinton has already actually done or at least pushed for.
They have both handled their campaigning in perplexingly abrasive ways. While I don't need to waste any time on Trump's "mistakes" because MSM will jackhammer them into the heads of anyone who dares to listen, consider Hillary's. After that controversial primary election that left Sanders' supporters feeling shafted, Hillary did very little to bring them on board, and many of them are young people voting or first time voters, getting this kind of sour experience with the Democratic Party. On the contrary, the convention did everything they could to silence the Sanders wing, and Hillary instead sought to cozy up to Republican donors. While you'd think this is part of that deceitful "triangulation" strategy that her husband made popular, she then went on to call Republican voters a "basket of deplorables." Does she think that her donors alone will get her enough votes?
I suggest that if anyone who doesn't live in a battleground state wants to vote third party, do so. Johnson is on the verge of meeting that arbitrary debate entry percentage, and Stein, who is on the ballot (or can be written in) in all states except Nevada, Oklahoma, and South Dakota, should be qualifying for federal funding at 5%. The electoral college will deliver your state to one of the top dogs even if you convince everyone you know to vote third party. If you do live in a swing state however, well congratulations on holding the power to decide which evil we wind up with.
Really? Were you here in 2000? and then the next 8 fucking years when bushes policies were defended up until and after the very end of his presidency?
Slashdot isn't as homogeneous as you make it out to be and i'm glad of that. Let americans elect someone stupider than bush and reagan. Serves them right for what they get - again and again. The dollar is too strong against my currency anyway and I would like to buy cheap goods from the US again (and elsewhere since every country prices in USD on the internet..) Have you priced out servers or software contracts in a non american currency lately? USD is way too strong!
Vote trump! Make the american dollar weak again!
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How is he corrupt? Has corruption of Donald even been accused? He is many things but I didn't note corruptible being one of them. Who has bribed him? Site references please.
The AC I responded to made the statement that "Science is true whether you believe in it or not." I simply asked a question that has a scientific foundation, rather than berating him with juvenile tantrums about going off-topic.
As for whether you need a biology degree to know what's inside a chicken egg, I'll leave that for the original AC to answer, which he did below.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
They are in it for more than ratings. I don't know what the hell for, but it's not just ratings.
They're only in it for the cash, but to get the cash you need the ratings.
Wanna buy a shirt?
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.. and I don't feel like I am being made to "pay for everything", nor do I feel like I'm being fucked over in any way.
Maybe ask someone who used to be middle class and now isn't, just because that isn't you or me doesn't mean they don't exist
The top 1% income earners pay 50% of all of the federal income taxes."
Except Trump who pays zero. So what happens to your country if the other 1%ers follow his lead?
Yes, yes...I'm sure Mr. Trump wants nuclear war...
I'm sure he didn't want to go bankrupt either, but after 6 bankruptcies maybe you want to be a little cautious about what Trump wants and what we end up with.
Voting or defending Trump has nothing to do with Trump, really, and all to do with a desire for profound change.
Which is pretty dumb to think that any change must be good. Change, especially unplanned and unprepared is usually worse than no change.
You are surprised of intelligent people defending Trump...and try to keep the discussion there (the person), instead of on the politics.
Because Trump has no coherent policy. It's not like he has all these detailed plans of how he intends to improve anything. The few details he has provided have been blown apart (tax cuts for the the rich is going to be a $5Trillion disaster).
The whole campaign has been "Hillary is shit, I'm awesome". So yeah it is surprising that intelligent people buy into that message.
If you have a political argument for Trump, I'm all ears, but "Making America Great Again" isn't a policy.
You mean can't name a single (living) leader of another country (that they admire)... For a libertarian living in a world with no libertarian foreign countries, that sounds pretty reasonable to me.
The Libertarian Party is literally running two successful two term governors. Admit it, "electable" means from the two major parties and no qualifications or policies will make you change your mind.
(who wants the over/under on someone replying Somalia?)
Yes it's an anecdote! Were you expecting original research in a Slashdot comment?
Pure fantasy, but I hope it lets you sleep better after Trump fails at everything and shatters the Republican party.
I guess you mistakenly think I'm pro-Trump?
Do you have ESP?
His entire world view is based on either pure fantasy, or on making productive people slaves to non-productive people and calling that a virtue.
Can you please provide a link that backs up what you say that includes the successes of Scandinavian countries? Thanks.
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How is he corrupt? Has corruption of Donald even been accused? He is many things but I didn't note corruptible being one of them. Who has bribed him? Site references please.
I suppose that depends on what you mean by "corrupt".
Donald has taken and paid bribes. He's illegally dealt with Cuba while publicly claiming he would never deal with them. He's swindled people out of their money with his fake Trump University where he put two con artists with a long criminal history in charge, then when the inevitable investigation came along, he used his charity, the Trump Foundation, to bribe the Florida Attorney general into dropping the charges. Beyond that, Donald has lied about just about everything, but since he has never held a government office, he has not had the opportunity to betray that trust for his own financial benefit, yet.
Personally, I think it's rare for anyone to accuse Trump of being corrupt, because he is so obviously corrupt, it's just not news, so I am very amused by the people who think Trump will clean up "the corruption in politics".
Fanatically anti-fanatical
The uranium deal that was approved by 10 federal agencies that Clinton had no control over? Do tell.
Fanatically anti-fanatical
f course, being an evil witch, she'll still lie her ass off and pretend to embrace those people's wish lists long enough to get elected. Nothing new there.
Call me cynical, but that's politics, not witchcraft.
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Sorry, "the mean one" is Trump and "the megalomaniac" is also Trump. Clinton is "the politician" with everything good and bad that it implies.
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Vote Trump - see 20 million people loose health insurance. I bet you lots of Slashdotters are under 26 and on their parent's plan. If Trump wins you'll get kicked off - day one!
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Especially when the majority of your net worth is the brand value of your name based on your feeling of its worth. Q.When you publicly state what youâ(TM)re worth, what do you base that number on? A: I would say itâ(TM)s my general attitude at the time that the question may be asked. And as I say, it varies. Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/...
Star Trek transporters are just 3d printers.
When info on Hillary or the Democrats is unofficially released, immediately it's being called an act of war, and those Russian state hackers are to blame for sure. Don't focus on the damning content of the info, deflect focus to the (made-up) source.
Um no. When Donald invites foreign powers to hack his opponent, that's almost treason. In this case, we are discussing a release of tax data from over 20 years ago which has nothing to do with security. The source was made-up? Bahahahahaha. The one thing you don't hear from the Trump camp is that the documents are not real. They can't lie that far.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
Am I the only one who thinks that it's possible that he was able to claim losses like that through shady (or quite possibly legitimate) ways?
You're assuming that by claiming losses, he ACTUALLY lost that money. I have more confidence that businessmen know how to cheat their way out of having to pay taxes, like hiring accountants/lawyers to find ways to shield their money. After all, the wealthy are the ones who pay to have laws passed that benefit them. So really all that a tax return is a CLAIM that he had a billion in losses. That doesn't make it so. And we all know Trump has no issue claiming things that aren't true.
There is a reason the wealthy stay wealthy.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
Like I've said before, Trump IS the "third party candidate" -- IMO he only ran as a Rep because that was the field he was most likely to beat. He's not beholden to either party.
And what's good for Trump is good for America, simply because when America is prosperous, business prospers. Trust the selfish motive even if you don't trust the man.
~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
Because the Democrats haven't figured out how to get more taxes out of the middle class without losing too many votes.
When there's no longer an alternative, watch what happens to taxes (and their bastard cousin, regulatory fees)... see California for a realworld example.
~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
I recall when the same nuclear-war hyperbole was floated about Reagan. How'd that work out for ya??
~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
I see that you are getting a lot of grief for being right (correct).
Good point... let's all sing along!
"I'm proud to be a deplorable..."
~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
You don't get your company to that size "with an iron fist, and no help or good ideas from anyone else", or by "blaming everyone but himself as he never accepts responsibility".
You underestimate the power of having a ton of money to start out with and a rich dad to bail you out whenever you mess up. Also, being willing to screw over all of your contractors whenever you can get away with it is a great way to save some cash. Oh, and make sure to use clever accounting to completely avoid paying your share of taxes.
Even then, if Trump was just competent, you would've expected him to at least stay even with the market, but as it is he performed far worse, even counting all of his unethical business dealings.
What's more, how do you know Trump is even that successful? Because he says so? If he really was so rich, and charitable, and successful, why doesn't he release his tax returns? Especially considering that he was the leader of the birther movement, it's completely hypocritical to withhold his personal information from the American people.
To be fair, Johnson did name someone in Peres, and the interviewer disallowed that answer and asked for a current head-of-state office-holder. I think it threw him off being rebuffed like that. To be clear, I'm not a Johnson supporter, and he definitely should have been able to name somebody.
The whole thing then made Jill Stein look like an even bigger moron when she doubled down by giving three answers that the interviewer had specifically disallowed.
Agree that this is all a big part of why third party candidates don't get any traction. They are generally way out of their league, have kooky niche ideas, or both.
Thanks for your insightful rebuttal. I found it to be well reasoned and quite comprehensive.
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
Oh, the Republican Party has all but given up on Trump - look how many surrogates he has stumping for him - practically nobody except for has-beens and washouts that have no other way back into the spotlight.
The GOP is cutting their losses and stopping the damage by focusing on Congress. If Hillary gets elected, she still can't do shit without compromising with the House and Senate.
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
So basically they're fat smelly unemployed losers sitting in their mom's basement wearing underwear and likely show up as level 2 sex offenders on the national registry.
Hey, you're free to move there anytime you want. Just remember, you won't be able to get out afterwards. Such is the Cuban way.
His entire world view is based on either pure fantasy, or on making productive people slaves to non-productive people and calling that a virtue.
There is not a single policy that Bernie has advocated that isn't being put to good use in Northern Europe - he's really a Democratic socialist after the Scandinavian style. So are you saying that Finland is an imaginary place?
On your second point: Too true, I hate it when productive people (like contractors, who actually build useful things) are unpaid slaves to non-productive people (like freeloading Trump and his ilk).
Either way, you can't blame me. I'm voting for Johnson, AKA Neither Of The Above.
Keep in mind that Castro/Chavez/... is the guy that they already have. And the only way to remove them, usually, is through violence. So the bar for any other guy would be relatively high to justify all that. People might not like their leadership or its platform, but it takes a lot of dislike to get to the point where one is willing to wage war to topple the leaders.
The big story this week seems to be Trump bribing Fidel Castro. The big stories of the past involved Atlantic City and Vegas mobsters.
It cannot lead to a more than a two party system in long term (like, more than a couple of electoral cycles) - the math doesn't add up. The electoral system of this country only permits two major parties sucking everything else in their orbit.
So the most you can expect is that a different party replaces GOP.
Machiavellianism (willingness to manipulate and deceive others), Narcissism (egotism and self-obsession), Psychopathy (the lack of remorse and empathy), Sadism (pleasure in the suffering of others) >:(
And politicians have also mastered the art of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Casteism
I wrote a reply to this on Monday, but for some reason it didn't get posted. I don't feel like trying to redo it again, with all the quoting and unquoting, so I'll just leave the basics instead.
My intention was simply to see the response to the question, which usually gets reactions like Cederic's above. (The fact I asked an off-topic question does not warrant the level of vitriol in his post. I have to assume he has a personal animosity against whatever point he believes I was making.) I started asking similar questions a few years back, during abortion debates, after one poster on a forum stated that a human embryo is "no more human than a cancerous lump in a goat testicle".
I'm agnostic on the abortion debate, and think both sides have valid points. (Literally, I don't care if it is legal or illegal. Where it is legal, it can be done in accordance with regulations. Where illegal, those who are involved should be arrested like any other lawbreaker.) Both side also have stupid arguments and outright lies, to try to win over people to their mindset. I'm tired of the BS.
Lately the arguments have gotten to the point of debating if the embryo/fetus/unborn baby is "a person" or not. Another tactic on the pro-life side is asking if abortion should be allowed one day before a woman's due date. This often leads to the "a person/not a person" debate. Well, rather than try to nail down what designates "personhood", I moved to the scientific terminology, remembering the idiocy of the "cancerous goat testicle" line. Someone can make the argument that a fetus is not a person, but they can't make the argument that a full term fetus is not of the species Homo sapiens. Just as a monarch butterfly is Danaus plexippus, even when it's actually a caterpillar or inside a cocoon.
So, no, I wasn't specifically trying to imply that you are not following a scientific line of reasoning in your own actions. But I did ask it to determine if you, or other responders, do use scientific or unscientific reasoning.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
why does it matter that he did it in 1995? anybody else would have been successful? that was the one year that losing is somehow worse than any other year?
Because '94-'95 were years when commercial real estate was booming.
Losing money on real estate in 1995 would be like losing money selling cocaine in Miami in 1980.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Donald Trump has struck a nerve with the american people. It's sad that he was the one to figure out how, but he did.
Most career politicians, and most political science majors, know exactly how Donald did it. Any of them could have done it, but they would not stoop that low.
Donald is using demagoguery (an appeal to people that plays on their emotions and prejudices rather than on their rational side), in the exact same style as many authoritarian dictators have used in the past. Blame "others" for perceived problems that may or may not exist, demonize the "others", etc.. He is able to stoop much lower than any other politician because he is a textbook narcissist likely with psychopathic tendencies, according to a Harvard Psychology Prof. http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/02/psychologist-explains-trump-is-literally-a-narcissistic-psychopath/
His real skill is not that he discovered demagoguery, his real skill is media manipulation. Namely, his ability to say a whole bunch of stuff that elicits emotion (dog whistles for instance) without actual saying anything. News anchors can pin him down and make him say anything concrete. He just dances around issues, which allows the viewer to fill in their interpretation of what he said.
Did you see The Office episode where Jim "helps" Dwight with his speech by replacing the words in a Mussolini speech with whatever was relevant in this day and age for the topic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzE7lXM6mho
I'm sure he didn't want to go bankrupt either, but after 6 bankruptcies maybe you want to be a little cautious about what Trump wants and what we end up with.
Out of 500 businesses, 6 going under is one of the best track records for any company owner. A 98.8% success rate is pretty damn good, especially when we're talking about the possible future leader of our country.
Have you ever fallen asleep at the keybhanusdiog?
So I have a 100% record in business, does that make me more qualified?
I have also never sexually assaulted anyone, paid more tax, and if you like I can say that I'll bomb the hell out of our enemies, make the country great again, and save our jobs, all without explaining how any of that will actually happen.
Is this all that is required to convince you that I'll make a great president? It doesn't seem to be a very rigorous measure...