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PewDiePie Calls Out the 'Old-School Media' For Spiteful Dishonesty
New submitter Shane_Optima writes: After losing his Youtube Red show and his contract with Disney, the owner of the most subscribed channel on Youtube, Felix Arvid Ulf Kjellberg (aka "PewDiePie"), has released a video response to the Wall Street Journal and other mainstream news outlets, who have labeled his comedy videos variously as racist, fascist or anti-semitic. In it, he accuses the mainstream media of deliberately fabricating and misrepresenting the evidence used against him because they are afraid of independent content producers such as himself. In the video, PewDiePie discusses the recent actions of the Wall Street Journal, whose reporters sent nine cherry-picked and edited videos to Disney, which led directly to Disney's decision to terminate their relationship with him. These video clips and others used to "prove" PewDiePie's guilt have been edited (he claims) to remove all context, to the extent of using a pose of him pointing at something as a Nazi salute and using a clip where other players are creating swastikas in a game and editing out the part where he is asking them to stop. The most-cited video in the controversy involves seeing if he can use the site Fiverr to hire someone to create a video containing an over-the-top message for a mere $5. After a couple of laughing males unfurl a sign saying "Death to All Jews," he recoils with widened eyes and sits, apparently dumbfounded, for another thirty seconds before the video ends, without him uttering another word.
PewDiePie's video comes several days after a Tumblr post where he attempted to clarify that the videos were intended to be comedy showing "how crazy the modern world is." He has not yet used the phrase "fake news" in his response to the controversy, but given the current trends surrounding that phrase, it isn't surprising that his supporters are resorting to it frequently. Is this all just another unfortunate instance of collateral damage in the war against far-right political movements, is it a campaign of malicious retaliation by old media that is terrified of new media (as Felix claims), or was J.K. Rowling correct when she called out PewDiePie as a Death Eater? Err, I mean, ...as a fascist?
Update: Apparently, canceling his Youtube Red series was deemed an insufficient response. Youtube has now removed the mirror of PewDiePie's "Death to All Jews" video because it "violates Youtube's policy on hate speech." The original posting of the video had already been marked private by PewDiePie shortly after the controversy erupted. A quick check of Vimeo and Daily Motion came up empty, so you're on your own if you wish to find out for yourself what the controversy was all about.
PewDiePie's video comes several days after a Tumblr post where he attempted to clarify that the videos were intended to be comedy showing "how crazy the modern world is." He has not yet used the phrase "fake news" in his response to the controversy, but given the current trends surrounding that phrase, it isn't surprising that his supporters are resorting to it frequently. Is this all just another unfortunate instance of collateral damage in the war against far-right political movements, is it a campaign of malicious retaliation by old media that is terrified of new media (as Felix claims), or was J.K. Rowling correct when she called out PewDiePie as a Death Eater? Err, I mean, ...as a fascist?
Update: Apparently, canceling his Youtube Red series was deemed an insufficient response. Youtube has now removed the mirror of PewDiePie's "Death to All Jews" video because it "violates Youtube's policy on hate speech." The original posting of the video had already been marked private by PewDiePie shortly after the controversy erupted. A quick check of Vimeo and Daily Motion came up empty, so you're on your own if you wish to find out for yourself what the controversy was all about.
It would be huge. Bigly even.
He is apparantly suprised that broadcasting a sign with "Death To All Jews" on it would get him fired.
I can't think of many places where you wouldn't get fired for that sign.
Snowden and Manning are heroes.
well, sooner or later.
And Rebel Media has a great video of Laura Southern explaining why the term 'fascist' is overused, and incorrectly at that.
TL;DW:
Leftists: "BAWW EVERYTHING EVERYONE DOES THAT I DON'T LIKE IS FASCIST."
Everyone else: "Get over it."
Anyone with any sense of intellectual integrity can clearly see that it was all satire. They can also see through the dishonesty of the media. This is just a taste of what the media has been doing politically. Regardless of how you feel about the current POTUS, these tactics are exactly the same tactics used against him from the MSM.
Follow the dollars. This stuff generates clicks. It gets people to read their stories. They do it because they get money for it. Hopefully at some point soon this type of "journalism" dies down.
Fascist - noun: Anyone who disagrees with me.
And if you dispute that, you're a fascist!
And that question is, Do You Punch Nazis?
There is only one answer.
And that answer is Yes.
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I am disgusted by this article, almost as disgusted as I am at myself taking the time to respond to it.
PewDiePie is a professional attention whore and it is fascinating to watch him ply his craft. This latest response is perfectly timed, just as the flames were dying down he fans them and gets another round of attention.
He is a troll and like any troll the way to defeat it is by ignoring it.
That was the first PewDiePie I've watched, and it's interesting to see the media do to him what they've done to Trump, Farage, Wilders, Le Pen, Orban, etc. The media no longer report the truth, they report their own narrative. They fabricate evidence in an effort to influence people's views.
The media used to be able to control the narrative, but having lost control they're redoubling their efforts to control what people think, which means more attacks against people they disagree with and more fabrications. This is having the opposite effect, and is only serving to turn more people away from the mainstream media.
Traditional media knows it's in trouble but appears to be so out of touch with the public that it doesn't know what to do about it, so the attacks, the lies and the fabrications continue. The sooner the media collapses, the better.
Wait, actions have consequences?
Most people learn this in their childhood. Mr. Pie, it was time you learned it too, and that some things you don't joke about.
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But a very carefully targeted one. The people who get ridiculed have to really deserve the dickish treatment. You can take a cheap shot, but you can never punch down.
Now I've seen the infamous video and I totally get it. It's a good point, but it totally fails as satire because he ended up screwing with, and then harming the guys in the video, who almost certainly have no idea the significance of what they're doing. How many Jews are in India? About five thousand individuals out of a billion. Zoroastrians are almost 30 times more common in the US as Jews are in India, particularly rural India.
Now he's totally right that the media is stupid, block-headed and hypocritical, and has neither the ability nor inclination to understand him. But that doesn't change the fact he attempted satire and failed. That makes him, at least in this incident, just a dick.
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win stupid prizes!
Context is everything and lacking context your statement is a lie. The guy made a couple satires based on claims of him being a , not a normal staple on his channel. The allegation was that since some white racist like him he must be racist. That beauty should sound familiar right? By the way, some Muslim extremist likes your post, so you have to be a homophobic anti-Semite.
The "take offense at everything" generation has ensured that the overwhelming majority of comedians will not perform on a Campuses. But hey, enjoy Amy Schumer shows ever week because a white chick insulting men and pretending to be a slut is comedy everyone can enjoy for an eternity right?
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
When everything you say and do is available for everyone to see, you need to live a life of absolute integrity. If you don't, expect there to be backlash and expect it to be brutal.
Just chasing eyeballs to sell to advertisers, exactly like he was.
Someone will pick this guy up, pay him millions, and give him a late night talk show! You watch!
We're in America, where someone is a huge turd one day and the next day your mom will be laughing at his scripted garbage the next!
Why is fucking 'PewDiePie' even showing up on Slashdot? Again. There was an article about him just a couple of days ago. Nobody. Fucking. Cares about this asshole. Can we please give it a rest?
waaaaaaaahhhhh!
all the way to chicago.
fucking crybaby.
You have a contract with Disney and you use Nazi humor? I'm not saying there to is anything wrong with extreme forms of humor that offend some....but I also don't expect Disney to support it.
Do this. Do this more often. Exactly this.
your thin skin doesn't make me a troll
Submitter here. And the gloves are off, FYI.
This is a bizarre little trick, apparently some weird leftover piece of Cold War propaganda, that any time a topic has anything to do with the free market you can point that out and a significant minority of people will believe you've just "won" the discussion and will mod you up, even if you're rambling irrelevant drivel. (It works on Reddit, too.)
Congratulations, Disney and Youtube are legally free to do as they choose. No, the first amendment doesn't constrain them. Are we done with the kindergarten version of Civics now?
There appears to be widespread *lying* about the nature of the videos in question, characterizations that are so brazen as to be actual lies by mainstream media organizations like the Wall Street Journal, Wired, The Independent, etc. This is on top of the WSJ actually going out of their way to get PewDiePie "fired" by mining and editing his content and then sending it directly (from my understanding) to Disney.
I think that alone is all worth talking about. If dishonest and manipulative newspapers don't interest you at all, well there's the door. Bye.
But there's even more: to the extent that companies like Youtube and Disney are being pressured by asshats writing letters and threatening boycotts, I'd even go so far as to say it's worth discussing trying to pressure them in the opposite direction. Not because I'm a huge PewDiePie fan (I'm not; I've watched only a few of his videos), but because the internet is being dominated by a small group of companies and it's worth a little effort to push back now, while we still can, and inform them that free speech for their platform (not just our constitution) is what we actually want.
Just listen to this smug shit coming out of the WSJ and put that in the context of the thousands of Youtubers trying to figure out Youtube's uncodified content policy so their videos won't be de-monetized. Put that in the contest of the millions of Youtube users who just want their favorite hosts to be able to speak their mind uncensored. The WSJ doesn't care about all of that. They only care about media giants being able to dictate acceptable content with an iron fist.
Does that violate the first amendment? Again, no. Is this capitalism at work? Again, yes. You're such a good, smart little anti-Communist for reminding us of these things!
But us talking about it and getting a bit pissed about it and wondering aloud if there's any way to pull the brake on this shitshow before it gets any worse is also capitalism at work. If that's a conversation that doesn't interest you--there's the door. Vote with your feet, citizen.
> He is apparantly suprised that broadcasting a sign with "Death To All Jews" on it would get him fired.
Actually, he's surprised that his other video about the media taking things out of context would itself be taken out of context to prove that he was some kind of Nazi.
Even in the original video, in which he was dismayed to find out that someone would actually do those things for a few bucks, he says that he's not proud of this and apologizes to the viewers because he didn't think the people he hired on Fiverr would actually do those things.
But I bet you didn't actually look at any of that, and now the videos are marked as private. The best I can find now is this discussion by a friend of his.
This is akin to bitching that you don't like Snowden because he wears ugly glasses and has a boring face.
I'm the submitter. I don't watch PewDiePie videos. I think I watched only two in my entire life before today. This is serious news. He is the biggest name on Youtube (like it or not), and these are some of the biggest names in mainstream news lying about him, engaging in an open campaign to get him fired (WSJ went directly to Disney, from my understanding), and then they casually, lazily, openly discuss about how their motive in all of this was that they want to see online media giants dictate acceptable content with an iron fist instead of this willy-nilly free speech bullshit that makes old media nervous.
When the hell did Slashdot turn into goddamn TMZ? Who cares who you like or don't like? This. Matters.
I'll agree that what Pewdiepie did was crass and tasteless, but I would think that his apology (which he gave in that very video...) would cover it.
Speaking of which, you yourself have used more than a few crass racial stereotypes right here on Slashdot. Would you think it was fair if all the newspapers tomorrow were calling you a closet racist and calling on people to shun you. I seem to remember you making satirical statements pretending to be racist as well, but I won't quote you out of context to make a point (a courtesy, I note, that was not extended to Pewdiepie, when in a fit of irony they used "examples" from his video about taking things out of context out of context).
So I have to ask, will you answer for your own crass racial stereotypes before you throw stones at another?
I had not heard of this person (or his videos) before the previous article, but his schtick seems in line with the Aristocrats joke of old, where the goal is to be offensive as possible. The joke is rarely funny, but it's interesting to see how far someone will go and what they'll think of when telling it. But I don't think anyone mistakes hearing "The Aristocrats" as advocacy of those actions.
Is he attention-hungry? Yes, but not any more so than anyone else who posts videos on YouTube. Racist, anti-semitic, or fascist? Probably not. At least I can't tell that from the videos.
These same people, were they alive 60 years ago, would have been up in arms about Lenny Bruce (whose routines are available on YouTube and easily as offensive, by the way). I'm not sure that's something they should be proud of.
Both what you say and what he says is happening and the is so much noise in the signal that it is hard to tell what is happening when.
> Has it always been *this* bad? Fuck me, I'd better stop before I start saying "woke".
Participation in the 5 minute hates is mandatory, Citizen. Stay glued to your Telescreen. Friend Computer loves you.
Kidding. It's just more blatant and obvious now and people are no longer afraid to call them on it. A critical mass of people are no longer fooled by this and they're getting called on their BS. Our culture has shifted. The bandwagon is moving in the opposite direction. They don't know what happened. But you do. You have felt it.
It's too late for you. Next thing you know, you'll start reading TD out of curiosity. You took a red pill. You don't fit in now. You can't be one of them now, they'll turn on you the minute they know you're not one of them any more. Just like they did to Pewdiepie.
This story isn't the result of some random accident. All the outlets aren't running this because they're stupid. They know this is BS. They went after him because he was redpilling people. They've been organizing these 5 minute hates since Orwell's day. People are finally breaking the spell and that terrifies them, because they can't control us any longer.
But you're free. You can't go back to being one of them any more. Sorry. Once you become aware of being redpilled, it's too late. You can't not see it any more. Just be careful, they consider you a threat now. You'll end up like that disabled guy the four 20-year-olds imprisoned and tortured if you play things wrong.
I don't have any sympathy when things backfire on guys that want to be edgy and extreme.
Jew talmud on you goy cattle - Juden control all media:
They wrote this about you goyim/gentiles: Jews = biggest racists of all (for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Spain (1492), France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No:
1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."
2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
4. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
6. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
7. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
8. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
9. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
10. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
11. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
12. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
13. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
14. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
15. Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."
16. Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."
17. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."
18. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."
19. Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."
20. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."
21. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it."
22. Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean."
23. Nedarim 23b: "He who desires that none of his vows made during the year be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null'. His vows are then invalid."
Really nice people guess all nations are nazis (egypt "despoiling" robbing it, Romans under titus, russian pogroms, ara
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My son was into him for some weird reason. I think middle schoolers are about the only ones who care about PewDiePie. Hell, I don't think I would have known about him if it wasn't through the kid's friends. It's amazing how much profanity my kids get to listen to thanks to YouTube, in my day you had to watch able TV after about 9pm to hear that kind of stuff. They're smart enough to know to wear headphones because obviously I would have shut it off years ago if I would have realized what was going on then.
(plus I'd be a big hypocrite because I watch and support Simone Giertz's Shitty Robots)
... in that I never heard of it before and don't give a shit now that I have.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
A person has an opinion about how their own opinions are treated, think people shouldn't apply contexts they didn't intend to the words?
News at 11.
...die by shock value. Go cry us a river, pewdiepie.
If you post racist bullshit, you own racist bullshit. I don't care if it's a joke or not, your sponsors have every right to disassociate with you.
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Do I care?
I think not.
He's male. He's white. He's likely not gay or transsexual. And he's not a member of the leftists.
In this day and age, would you ever need any more proof that he's a sexist, racist nazi scum?
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Yeah, but we all know the "Mainstream Media" is dominated by Jews. So when he criticizes the mainstream media he's just proving his point.
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Say something really stupid in public- a few times. Get called on it by The Media (because you *are* a public figure), call The Media on their anti-stupidity bias.
(main point at the end)
- Always fun to make video/jokes/artefacts that stupid people will mis-understand, often on purpose.
- Making video/jokes/artefacts that *will* be mis-understood is often going to back-fire.
- Maker of said content is walking a fine line, it is on the originator to take potential for being mis-construed *on purpose* into account.
- Neo-nazis will often *pretend* "it was only a joke" when called out, so it is not like any of this would be easy, even if public discourse was always measured and intelligent. Public discourse is *not* measured and intelligent -- general level of widespread lying will make easily misconstrued material risky. Some actors have a lot to lose if their main support-base gets confused. They will , often knowingly, take the easy way out and go with branding stuff as Nazi.
- Given previous point, PewDiePie is actually enabling actual Nazis, even if he honestly did not mean to.
pardon me while i vomit at this making /.
This clueless idiot doesn't understand he's just making it worse.
Grow a pair and enjoy your money. Just stfu and go away.
Now
While you are talking about a time before your parents were born in order for you to get up to your usual goalpost shifting troll antics I am talking about the present.
It appears I should have looked at the username - the stalker is back! What is it now - twelve articles or only nine?
It's not hard to tell what is happening when. That's why people have gotten desensitized to being called anti-semite these days.
That's why the majority of the world decided to give Palestine independence. Because the Jewish idiots overstretched their
usage of the buzzword and have forgotten the basic lessons of psychology books that were ironically written by many Jews as pioneers.
When the majority of the world hates you, the problem is you, not the majority of the world. If Israel wants to go around calling the whole
world anti-semite, then they can do go on a dig themselves a nice hole. I'll piss in it when i'm passing by.
> You think it makes it better because he paid someone else to make jokes about killing Jews?
It's because he was using it as an example of something terrible. That's the joke: people will do something terrible for $5. That means that he thinks telling Jews to die is terrible. Which it is.
Is that so hard to figure out?
I can see why the above is posted AC. If I had that as prepared garbage on my PC, I certainly wouldn't want it linked to my name.
It's so easy to demolish google "Palestinian TV Jewish Extermination"
When people tell you they want you dead, it's only common sense to act with caution.
> Except that's not what happened at all. He paid them to say words that they had no understanding of.
Can you explain to me what gave you that impression when he wrote an English request on an English website regarding an offering that was posted there in English?
Because you can clearly read the request in English right at the start of this video (the original is dead now). And you can see their request. In English.
While you're at it, would you explain why you seem to have assumed that these people don't understand English? Because that sounds like a pretty mean thing to assume about some random brown kids, but hey, I'm willing to at least listen to your explanation.
It's incredible the level of deception(and or ignorance) that sites like WSJ, Wired and others are doing.
It really makes one think about what they are doing to news where they are the only source of information.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
You mean like Israel wants everything around it dead as well?
You haven't disproved any of the above articles and sources, nor have you disproved any written and documented history mentioned in the above post.
All you can do is make incoherent general dismissals without anything backing them up and laughably proclaim "written and documented history is a conspiracy!".
This is plainly and simple a money-/many-ignorant-supported idiot behaving exactly as an idiot would do. This guy is part of the new internet-based elites who don't rely directly on traditional resources (e.g., money or family/contacts), but on generic metrics like followers or likes. They pursue exactly the same goal than all the elites before: imposing their positions and growing at the expense of others. They are equally concerned about their own interests and equally damaging for the many, for objective principles and for the growth of humankind.
To know more about my opinion regarding all this, about the non-joke essence of the referred videos and to even enjoy an actual bad-taste joke, take a look at my reply to the submitter of this article in the previous one about this PewNonsense.
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Hes not funny. Hes annoying. Fake comedy. #bad #sad
Can you explain to me what gave you the impression I said they could not speak English?
I said they did not understand the meaning. If you weren't a motivated idiot you would have read the next sentence where I elaborated that they had no idea what a jew was. But, since you are an alt-nazi yourself I shouldn't be surprised you can't conceive of anyone not knowing about jews.
OK OK.. i fyou put your self in questionable situations you must expect negative outcomes, especially when dealing with content that you cannt control. As a typical Mellineal (ya i dont care if its spelled wrong) you attempted to force your views and perceptions on others, only to have them interpreted and acted upon.. it seems your buthurt about some questionable activities that you were involved in, someone got offended, made a rebuttal (although not the best in the world, its still a response) At the time, Germans thought Hitler was the Shiznit, untill we kicked his ass and exposed the truth.. In this case,, your messed up humor was responded to in a way you obviously did not appreciate. Is that any bad or worse than you pro-porting the inital posting that started all of this?? Just because you see it as funny, the rest of the werld may not share your NARROW VIEW of whats considered comedy.. To compound further, if others in YOUR industry also share and join in on the comments, perhaps they may have a point.. Give it up, your humor was taken out of context and mutilated into the vision of what MANY OTHERS SAW IN YOUR HUMOR. Part of being an adult, and living in an adult world included accepting when YOUR WRONG trumpey is a good example. Once he realized the whole travel Ban was a joke, and others pushing him into that thought process, he finallyu shut up and wil decide on another route, at least he shutup..Admit-it you were wrong, and/or your artwork was not taken as YOU intended, Boo HOO. Be an adult admit your mistake and either correct it, or move on. What may be humor to some may naught b 2 others..Best wishes on your re-programming
The problem with this argument is that it's anti-free-speech. You are saying that once a service becomes popular, once the inertia sets in, that service must be forced to publish and force to silence its criticism.
No I'm not. I've explicitly refuted this straw man like twenty different times now in every way I can think of, but it keeps rising from the dead.
Are you suggesting that YouTube Red and Disney should be forced to continue paying him?
No, I'm suggesting these legions of people (like you) who are trying to shut down debate, analysis, criticism, and talk of boycotts[1] by conflating it with arguing that Youtube should be legally forced to not censor people are being intellectually dishonest asshats.
why not also require PDP to host material from other channels on his own?
This is taking an argument that "it would be a bad thing if phone companies could start censoring who I talk to and what we talk about" and trying to refute it by asking "well, why not force you to make *your* phone public use to everyone who wanders by?"
This is nonsensical. There is an obvious distinction between a general-purpose communication platform and a user of that platform. Also, see above. No one in this entire thread, as far as I can see, is arguing that Youtube should be legally compelled to host any content... but it does not then follow that there is no point in ever criticizing any of their decisions.
It's also worth pointing out that PDP hasn't actually been kicked off YouTube
There's a wider context here of Youtube's banning policies and demonetization policies, which are mostly subjective and have been enforced more and more in recent months. Advertisers, it's worth noting, cannot opt out of Youtube's de-monetization decisions. If you want to advertise on a video which has been demonetized, you can't. (You'd have to post a new version of the video and roll your own advertising system from scratch, which is unrealistically cumbersome for the majority of producers and advertisers.) This is an important issue worth talking about, and talking about it does not mean one supports the government making it illegal for Youtube to act this way, nor does it mean one necessarily likes or supports PewDiePie.
Also, there's the tiny, tiny side issue here of journalistic integrity.
1. Not that I'm thrilled about the prospects of these being successful, but if it stood any chance of succeeding I would of course be for it, because only reason why some advertisers care about this stuff is because the people on the other side of this war have already conducted many successful boycotts in the past.
You win another game against the guy you keep attempting to bully by moving the goalposts to something that wasn't being discussed!
Another ego boost for the guy whose life is so empty that he need to do this shit!
It wasn't about wars, it wasn't about Egypt, it wasn't about Syria, it wasn't about Jorden - it was about the Palestinians.
Now could you please get off your Dad's account and find something better to do than mindless stalking?
There are more than two people on the internet.
Also why assume being gay is a get out of free card? Like everyone else most gay people are perfectly alright but there are utter bastards and outright criminals among them like any other group. Milo what's-his-face is an alt-right woman hating gayboy pushing that slang to the group of woman hating gays in his audience so it's a perfectly valid description of terms that are so fucking hard for the rest of us to work out from what he's going on about.
Escaping most millennials,
does the phrase "different strokes" mean anything in context here??
As stated in the WSJ about this:
"âoeIt looks like he went way over the line in an effort to be provocative,â said Eric Johnson, founder and president of the ad agency Ignited, whose clients have worked with PewDiePie in the past. âoeNow that big money is coming in and corporate parents are watching, youâ(TM)ve got to be careful.â"
Corporations who start to work you into their inner fold expect control of what you say. In other-words, if you sell out to them, then you shouldn't have any expectation of free speech and you should check with them first to make sure that your content is ok. No One forced this man to work with Disney, but did he not realize that they would string him up to make an example for all the other content creators they give creative license to (im assuming that no one was reviewing and approving his work)
As far as the corporate overlords lying, creative editing and making stuff up... all i really have to say is if you go play the big boy game, expect to get the big boy prizes.
I sincerely hope that this even actually brings pause to people and their over-sharing online. No one NEEDS an online presence, in fact, your life may be better with out one.
this is obviously click bait. Slow Slashdot news day, Right Fake Tim Cook??
I was unaware or didnt realize? Did Dice partners buy SLASHDOT again??
Based on whats being conveyed here (in the article),, is that question really off topic?
South park has gone there and it's still on the air!
hey All, I appreciate the supporting comments, but not at the expense of others.. Just because I don't agree with the positions of some, does not mean they are wrong, nor I, it just means we disagree. But before someone attaches blame for this to me, let's be professionals and move on to bigger and better things..
That he criticized the "old school media" in the way he did means that he is guilty of everything they accused him of.
Lotta fucking nazis on slashdot.
He is more of an agnostic
anonymous users to post 10 times per day (more or less, depending on moderation).
Doesnt that sound contradictory?? Like dia-metricaly opposed and stuff..
Moving further in to this, SLASHDOT CAN YOU CLARIFY YOUR TERMS OF SERVICE IN THIS CONTEXT?
Moving ahead, can you help us in the community surface that statement above within your acceptable usage practices/policies, so that we ourselves do not step over YOUR line.
Thank you, and as previously mentioned, enjoy The golden-state of Califonria.
you pick on the weak and on the downtrodden. It is propaganda.
Having watched his videos for years, he's likely bisexual, by his own admittance.
Who the frack is this individual anyhow?
And why do I even want to know?
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
The "most-cited video in the controversy" [citation needed] isn't the original video. So why take this clip and describe it as if it were the problem video?
Disney's audience is largely made of very young children, some of whom are Jewish. Those children are not mentally developed enough to understand why the "Death to all Jews" sign in PewDiePie's video is not actually directed at them.
Disney made the right move in ending the plans involving PewDiePie. He's not appropriate for their audience.
So through this article.. We have determined certain things..
1. Slashdot DOES NOT HAVE AN ANONYMOUS SUBMISSION SYSTEM AS ADVERTISED. (annon activity is tracked)
2. Moderators do pro port their agendas regardless of subject matter..
3. Most if not all movement is tracked within the site..(unnecessary)
4. those whom claim to manage the site ignore anything that does not cause conflict..
5. the articles listed here are getting further away from the notion of "news for nerds"
6. it has also become a place where comments cannot be made with out fear of retribution or revolt..
7. Is my personal data being shared? If so with whom, and why??
I bet this and other important questions will be ignored till the end of time..
Pfft..
Make sure to Mod this down FTC.. thanks
Your comment is pure facile rabble-rousing virtue signalling. Mindless partisanship is destroying this country: please refrain from adding to that problem.
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
But the circumstances that have these poor, uneducated people actually doing this doesn't bother you at all...
Tbh, the very fact that people setting the agenda is offended by a bad joke and starts a smear campaign over it, offends me to no end. The so called "leftist" is offended by the bad joke, but not that people is willing to do this for a fiver???
I'm am far from being a socialist, my friends calls me an anarchocapitalist, but even I find the circumstances these people find themselves in as offensive. And for me personally, this whole campaign speaks volumes about what kind of hipocritical a-holes that constitutes the so called leftists... These parasites don't care about poor people, they care about themselves, and have nothing but envy for successful people.
You socialists are so damn envious, so damn busy trying to steal hardworking peoples money, you don't have empathy or have the time to care about poor people...
I guessed that Slashdot was tracking IPs (have read some comments at different points which seemed to indicate so) and also that it was a known issue. Although I don't post anonymously (neither care about my privacy too much), I do understand that some people might be interested in all this. Here you have my contribution to raise more awareness.
Custom Solvers 2.0 = Alvaro Carballo Garcia = varocarbas.
The Slashdot PieDiePie article says: "In the video, PewDiePie discusses the recent actions of the Wall Street Journal, whose reporters sent nine cherry-picked and edited videos to Disney, which led directly to Disney's decision to terminate their relationship with him. These video clips and others used to "prove" PewDiePie's guilt have been edited (he claims) to remove all context, to the extent of using a pose of him pointing at something as a Nazi salute and using a clip where other players are creating swastikas in a game and editing out the part where he is asking them to stop."
PewDiePie is either correct (the WSJ reporters did what he said) or he is wrong. Has the WSJ denied his account? Apparently not. So, absent such a denial, I'll assume that WSJ reporters actually created an edited version of the PewDiePie videos and passed them (before publication) to Disney officials asking for comments? If PewDiePie's version is accurate, we have the WSJ (or a rogue operation in the news room) creating fake news. Then instead of publishing the supposed scoop the WSJ reporters showed the excerpts in advance to Disney and used the threat of publication as a way to demand (or extort) instant action by Disney. Disney knew when to fold; the WSJ project stampeded the frightened company into terminating the contract with PieDiePie.
To me it sounds like China, Russia and much of the Third World. Except that in the U.S. the real story oozes out through the cracks because PewDiePie can still hold a press conference and Slashdot can still report PewDiePie's actual words. So a vigilant reader can put together the timeline and make his or her own judgement. With the court-ordered virtual elimination of slander and libel laws in the U.S, PieDiePie has no legal recourse against the WSJ or the reporters. In every other civilized democracy (England, Canada, Japan, all of the EU, Australia, etc) you have a right to your good name and anyone who publishes a lie about you is held responsible. Our Supreme Court eliminated our traditional rights in a mid-60s decision dealing with- no surprise- a misrepresentation by the NYT.
As word spreads of this sort of WSJ article, the WSJ may begin to have the same credibility problem the NYT has. A newspaper can either represent an ideological movement or it can report the news. It can't do both. Traditionally the WSJ editorial page (libertarian and rightist) was totally separate from the news pages (fact-based, professional and sober). The two sections would routinely attack each other.. This PieDiePie report appears to me to be a successful attempt by WSJ news people to create editorial content in the news section; basically "How can we engineer an article on neo-Nazis with an implicit message about the Trump administration?" . All reporting and editing introduces a bias, but when the bias-content overwhelms the news-content the paper quietly begins to die. I usually trust the WSJ to report stories not manufacture them. Is my faith misplaced?
What PewDiePie should do is file a copyright lawsuit! :) Maybe he would get an understanding judge to put his foot (gavel) down against "unfair use", and perhaps even stem the tide of the digital lying we find ourselves in these days. I mean, surely I can't edit a "Star Wars" video so that it looks like storm troopers are slaughtering innocent Jews in a camp and then expect it to stay up on the Internet video sites without Disney complaining.
It seems like the top issue here, assuming Pew-Die-Pie was actually attempting some sort of social commentary on Fiverr, is that Pew-Die=Pie, the guy normally known for juvenile play-throughs of bad games and some sort of jumpscare show, was way out of his comfort zone in a sad attempt at some sort of messaging. Or put another way: if you want to to deliver an important message, maybe who you are by reputation and how you do this matters.
You were an asshole before any of this broke. You're still an asshole. No harm has been done. Except to your bank balance. Boo fucking good.
Since Semites carry the original sin of asserting Law before culture, they deserve broadly to be **anti-ed**. The entire Abrahamic viperous brood ... Jews, Christians and MuHamuds deserve back-of-the-hand political treatment for holding proto-Trotsky/GKhan political principles. Early Greeks/Romans and later pagan Druidic Germans got the republican/democrat thing right, not lubricious Semite tyrant sheep-herders. As for religion ... gives a fuck ... that's a different solipsist matter than building and managing a community or empire. Render-unto-Caesar and slap-down the Semites.
It's funny that you make accusations of racism while, without evidence, assuming that these people must not know things because of their skin color and where they live.
Even if we suppose, without evidence, they didn't know what a Jew was, could they not figure out 'death'? Could they not look things up? Or maybe just run Google translate on the request if they don't know that much English?
The full text is right there above my post in the earlier post for everyone to see, so of course not, nothing at all similar.
You are the second person to take me to task on this sort of triviality in the last few days when I've never had that sort of criticism before that in more than a decade on this site.
Is this some sort of recent fad that comes from a different site where posts are displayed in a different way or are you the same person and you have decided to go AC?
Ohhh, Sarah Silverman! Amy Schumer! Andy Kaufman!
These are excuses, plain and simple. You want to know what the differences between the above people and PewDiePie are?
1). Silverman, Schumer, Kaufman are funny. PewDiePie isn't funny. That's something of a problem for someone who represents themselves as a "comedian";
2). The above comedians know their audience, their forums, their partners and their targets. PewDiePie lost a contract with Disney. Disney. Disney is straight up family friendly, uncontroversial, all fun and no grown-up concerns.
Edgy comedians, and also would-be social activists and commentators, don't do deals with Disney, because that can't end well. Disney isn't cool with Hitler impressions, talk about abortion, and anti-Jewish anything, whether in the context of satire or not.
You have to be stupid not to know this. PewDiePie appears to be this stupid.
4channers spread the meme that he was a secret alt-righter, people got it into their heads that he actually was, and the rest is history.
Because the Twitter/Youtube economy is about clicks and views, regardless if you find the content compelling or appalling. Trump got the White House in part because his Tweets got him so much free publicity - news media making his Tweets into front-page stuff while his GOP opponents wasted their time and money trying to go it old-school.
That's only part of the reason. Trump got elected because his political program could fit into a series of tweets, Build a wall, Ban Muslim immigration, More taxes for companies that manufacture abroad. His opponents lost because their responses were more nuanced, requiring sentences or even whole paragraphs to clarify. Under the rules of politics today, if you can't tweet it, then it's not a good solution to the problem at hand.
Deja vu: In the 80s we had a 70ish actor as POTUS, a woman PM in the UK, and a bald leader of that other nuke superpower
Hard to feel bad for someone who has milked a purposeless activity for so much money. Do you feel unfairly treated, form in linen behind the non millionaires please
Well, Youtube has apparently gone a step further and has taken down the mirror of PewDiePie's video because it violates their policy on hate speech. A quick search on Vimeo turned up nothing, so I don't have a more durable link handy.
This is, uh... an interesting escalation.
What Happened To The First Amendment?
The Wall Street Journal has been fake news since it was sold to Rupert Murdoch in 2007. Fox news - set up by Murdoch after Reagan made the Australian a US citizen - has been fake news from the start. Everything Murdoch touches turns to unreliable, blatently biased info-crud. This is 6 years old, but still worth reading. There are also several books documenting Murdoch's life-long policy of distorting news in support of his political agenda.
Only boring people are ever bored.
I watched a couple of his game play-through videos. He's fresh and funny. But I think he views himself as some kind of ultimate Hipster. Everything he says and does, by definition, is supposed to be viewed as "ironic". If you don't get his funny, then by definition you're not hip. Or so that is what he's telling us. SNL does a lot of this, and has a lot of fail too. But at least they have a few people to vet their attempts at comedy to ensure it doesn't cross the line. The reality is, PDP is just an ignorant photogenic nerd whose emotional maturity is frozen at 15 years old. He has no care or empathy for those he insults and cares nothing about anyone not in his nerdy fan base. And since he' probably running his own show, he has no one to blame but himself for goring other people's sacred cows.
I was just kidding
I have kids, and unfortunately at my age I know about this "controversy". It's quite possible relevant and useful knowledge has been overwritten with this and it can sit beside my knowledge that Kim Kardashian even exists, but I digress.
His videos are 100% taken out of context. The "Death to all Jews" part was a "$5 and we'll do anything" type of site and he got them to say some message like "visit keemstar" or something (another popular "youtuber" I'm told). There is no malice or hail hitler or anything. And especially when any and everything in this day and age is "literally hitler", that accusation can be safely dismissed in 99.99% of all instances.
However, he is white. And as you know all white people are racist, especially the progressive-at-all-costs-Swedes like himself.
This was a hit piece plain and simple.
After rereading I'm ashamed I even know any of this. Christ... Anonymous posting indeed.
Pewdiepie apologized in the very video they're hating on for the stunt. Maybe we should let that go too?
People wouldn't use Google at work if it was full of spam and porn.
No, they would. Google Image Search is particularly bad, though at least it doesn't seem to quite have the same reliability for at least one bare breast within the first page--but what it considers, for example, a duck or a hamster continues to get rather interesting.
(As for the 'forced to continue paying him' issue--if the contracts say so, yes, or whatever the penalty named in the contract or determined by a judge is for them to get out of said contract. Being a large corporation should not mean that your contracts are only valid and enforceable when you want them to be, and by its very nature if you allow a company to do so 'because J Doe is an ebil person!!1!' then you've got it established that it is a thing they get to do and they can do it just as easily for, say, a generally innocuous vlog by a transwoman who is just documenting her transition because she brings up some of the trans issues that trans activists get weirdly pissy about. Never mind that they're kiiinda important if you're considering SRS...)