US International Tourism Market Share Is Falling Under Trump (buzzfeed.com)
An anonymous reader writes: The United States' slice of the international tourism pie is declining, according to a new report from Foursquare that looks at data from millions of phones worldwide. The US share of international tourism dropped 16% in March 2017 compared with the previous year. And it declined an average of 11% year over year in months spanning October 2016 to March 2017, according to the report. The drop coincides with the final month of the US election, the Trump transition, and the early months of the Trump administration, which notably imposed a travel ban on people from several majority-Muslim countries in January 2017 that was eventually halted in court but is currently under appeal. Declines in tourism market share from people originating in the Middle East were more pronounced than the rest of the world, down 25% this January, along with a smaller decrease from South America, Foursquare found. The data accounts for the percentage of international tourism coming to the US and not the absolute number of tourists, but Foursquare CEO Jeff Glueck told BuzzFeed News that it's unlikely tourist visits to the US increased while share declined. "I don't think you'd see a 16% decline in international market share and absolute numbers being up. I don't think that's compatible," he said. "The volume of tourism doesn't change that fast."
There have to be consequences when a country treats their visitors the way the US do.
against all other currencies
Not sure what place this anti-Republican political propaganda has on a tech news site.
This is not the Vegas hospitality Union.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
We'll need less of the H2B immigrants the tourism industry is lobbying for.
The dollar is too damn strong.
as he does, it's going to have knock-on effects that go beyond the political sphere.
And those companies and people directly affected by this turmoil better speak up about it. The more voices in the political arena, the better our democracy.
As a Canadian who vacations at least 2 to 3 times a year in the US, I can confirm that we will be curtailing our travels to not only some of the new Trumpisms we simply don't want to deal with (e.g. threat of being heavily annoyed at the border) but the extremely unattractive US Dollar exchange.
Seriously though, Florida and border states (we live next to NY and VT) will feel it the most. We have seen it in the past, and some places will get desperate enough to sell stuff at par.
On a different note, Americans, please come to Canada and spend your money here, we don't really hate you, we love your tourist dollars. Buy stuff.
thanks
Somebody needs an all-inclusive tour of the Re-Education Camp.
If you're a tourist, and you're willing to invest at least $500,000.00 in one of the Trump family businesses, there's no problem getting a visa.
Your dollars (dinars, yuan, rubles) are welcome here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
You are welcome on my lawn.
Believe me.
A report. From a phone app. An app that might have 1% install base on all cellphonedom. Why the fuck should anyone care?
If another country started to demand people's social media passwords, full access to phones, etc. as a possible condition to enter, I certainly wouldn't want to go there. Who wants to be treated like a criminal when they're on vacation trying to relax and have a good time?
People take their privacy seriously. The word has gotten around that the US is poking more and more into people's data when they visit. There's plenty of other beautiful places to visit in the world, so obviously tourism to the US will go down.
Treat visitors as guests and not suspiciously, damnit.
Maybe the illegals and terrorists are actually getting the message. Who knew that there were so many of them.
Yes, there's a correlation between Trump being in office and the tourism numbers... but there's the SAME correlation between the new 2017 Automobile product lines being released. I do not believe that any news outlet has even considered new cars to be related.
Could there be a causation? Possibly. I haven't communicated with anyone who has changed their vacation plans based off Trump. Not directly anyways. Opposition to Trump though, those have brought people changes - riots because people say something they don't like?
Anti-Trump "Demonstrations" that are just excuses for more violence? The Media being okay with this?
And in my opinion, the worst offender of all - Google. If you're still reading this far, that's the part where you probably slap your head and go "What is this wacko on about?", but stay with me just a little while longer; No matter how radical or out in the boonies your opinion is in any direction, Google is there to show you ONLY like-minded points of view (Thanks to their analytics and personalized search results). The more a person see the same opinion, and at the same time fail to see the conflicting opinions, the more that person is likely to believe THEIR opinion is the only one that's right, and EVERYONE agrees with them.
"Is violence the answer?" "These top 10 Google results say YES!"
So, with a perception of increased risk of harm... it is quite natural that people would want to avoid that harm. It's all about perception, which is controlled by the media.
Maybe our tourism boards can start targeting the fetish scene.
. . . . the blue-gloved idiots at the Theater Security A-holes. . .
Is the birthrate up or down under Trump?
I was speaking to someone from a tour company that organises special interest escorted tours all around the world. He said they have stopped running tours to the US because they've had so many bad experiences with border protection. If one person out of a group gets held for a couple of hours, they're not only traumatised but the whole tour gets off on a wrong foot.
Another factor is the exchange rate. The dollar was strengthening in the last half of 2016 and thus coming to the US was becoming more expensive.
Help us to understand how this is news for nerds??
Dice tools, Pawns in the ever lasting.
Enough said.
Nobody wants to be with Stupid.
Kinda like the CIA then?
It is possible to show specific events are important but that requires some specialized knowledge to understand. Plainly, you can do it using piecewise regression. There is significant autocorrelation since this is a time series, and as another post mentioned the mentioned seasonal effects are not disclosed here. They are however available if someone is interested enough in research. In this case my point is limited to modeling. Given a dummy variable keyed to the US election duration and conclusion it would actually be possible to determine the impact of particular events in time based on significant changes in the regression parameter estimates. See here for the general idea.
I did a double take when I saw that
A very crusty source of 'news'.
There is no XUL, only WebExtensions...
Living in a country in crisis, the strong dollar is the most relevant factor. This isn't some fault of America so chill out and enjoy visiting other countries while exchange is favorable.
The second lesser factor is people thinking the US is going to put them into jail just because, you know, Trump. American media is nuts. They spread FUD while worrying about ice-cream, and that's something Americans can blame on themselves.
1. Abysmal airline service. 2. Strong dollar. 3. Other countries are heavily marketing (Iceland, for example).
Trump had, literally, nothing to do with it. Here is a June 28th 2016 article about the searches, but our racist media gave Obama a pass until Trump got elected. And then, before the President-elect even entered office, there was an avalanche of articles about the "new" procedures — not directly blaming him, but planting the negative thoughts in the gullible heads (like yours and those of your adoring moderators here today). Only some of the reports mentioned the truth:
So, no, it had nothing to do with Trump. More likely, the reason is the growth of dollar since last December — vacationing in the US simply became more expensive for foreigners, while going abroad became cheaper for Americans.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
The volume of tourism doesn't change that fast.
With things like Melbourne Woman Held In US Customs Like Criminal Before Sent Home, it changes much faster than you'd think.
Constant and increasingly frequent stories about deplorables like these certainly don't help
And if you're going to argue racism isn't deplorable, you might be a redneck^W part of the problem.
The feeling here in Australia among a lot of people is that USA is off the tourist list directly because of Trump and his cronies attitudes. One of Australia's renowned children's book authors, Mem Fox, was treated shamefully by border security when she visited last and it made headlines here. She vows never to return!
The level of rudeness she received and general meanness had her in tears and fear for her safety. She stated that she has no problem with border security as such, but it can be carried out politely and with respect of the traveler. Her reception definitely was not.
I have traveled to America quite a few times, but never again! And in my mind, there is no doubt it is because of the paranoia that Trump is encouraging. Most of the rest of the world cannot understand how he managed to con the American people into electing him. Now many of our friends there are afraid to speak out against him for fear of retribution. It is very sad to see this one great nation going down the drain in this way, and that the American people in large cannot see it is utterly amazing to us.
Schoolboards in Canada (at least the one where I live) have put a halt to any trips to the US. Bringing kids across to the US is just not worth the potential hassle. We have a lot of different races, and, at least where I live, there are lots of muslims. No way they want to bring them across the border.
I'm sure there are lots of reasons that can be put forth. Failing tourism can be a function of the dollar, may have started before Trump took office, etc. However, as one of those avoiding travel (and seeing it as policy for school trips) I can assure you there is an effect because of how people perceive Trump.
As EU citizen, can't afford it.
I wonder if international tourism from Americans is down as well. I recently passed on the opportunity to travel to Mexico with some friends. One of the biggest reasons that I didn't go is the increase in authority given to the Border Patrol. The idea that I have no constitutional freedoms when leaving and re-entering my own country makes me virtually sick to my stomach. I've read enough horror stories that I'm just not interested in dealing with the hassle. It's getting to the point that if I do plan to travel to a foreign country, I may not be planning a return trip.
Which would kill you on the spot and instead of being punished, will get paid vacation and promotions.
I was referring to bias for Obama — the phenomenon known as bigotry of lower expectations. Whether such racism really did motivate the newspapers or not is neither known, nor even knowable. But it certainly is a no less well-supported accusation, than the summary dismissals of Obama's critics as "racist" were.
And you are an idiot, because this observation does not contradict my signature in any way.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
How's Tourism doing in Paris, Cairo, and Brussels?
I'm not a fan of Trump (at all), but I think it is a little early to tell if they drop in tourism is a result of his policies and administration. It would be interesting to see graphs from previous years, to see if tourism drops or spikes at certain times of the year (on average). I imagine there is usually a drop in tourism to the northern states, in the winter time, which would affect overall tourism to the USA.
It is certainly possible that his administration could have affected the tourism, but I don't think the supplied data/graphs show us enough history to come to that conclusion.
Why would anyone take Buzzfeed seriously?
Just wait for the laptop ban.
which is totally about forcing data onto the net for surveillance - at least I have to think that until we get some evidence on why the proposed ban is necessary.
I guess you've never visited Israel? Getting social media access is their playbook.
Trump didn't do this.
Stupid immigration checks and DHS searches are doing it.
The USA doesn't need visitors to come here to violate their privacy. Guess you don't pay attention. The NSA has been in the world-wide banking network for decades. If you don't use cash, they know what you buy.
Be more afraid of Google. Seriously.
Be afraid of Microsoft.
Be afraid of your ISP.
Because guess where all govts go and demand data? Just look at any IoT or computing device nearby. All those things are where govts go to get data about you.
Even Boss is guilty.
I think the main problem is if you look middle-eastern and the border agents are having a particularly bad day then you might get denied entry for no apparent reason at all. This has happened to several Canadians and apparently without even an explanation. This has caused entire conferences and school trips to be cancelled and or moved to Canada because on a class field trip, no teacher wants to have to deal with a situation where a student is left behind. Heck there was an Iranian Student who was invited to speak to a US trade show on refrigeration because of something new he had invented who got denied entry. Can you imagine how disappointing it would be to lose your lead speaker at a Conference because of such issues. This plus poor currency exchange, apparently gun violence issues and possibility issues at the border are scaring people away.
Canadians are by far the largest group of tourists to the USA. People in border cities or towns actually on the border make lots of day trips. The number of day trips will fluctuate greatly based on the exchange rate between the two countries. You would need an actual study that takes into account the exchange rate and excluded Canadians just shopping for the day to actually make any conclusions. The article is just sensationalism and click bait.
Your Arithmetic skills need some improvement, however...
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
This has nothing to do with Trump.
It has everything to do with the ever increasing idiocy at the border which is colloquially known as security theater. People choose not to visit the country where the border control has the rights to pry into all your electronic equipment and request your social networks passwords or deny you the entrance.
Unlike the politically correct nations that show baseless contempt for the US, terrorist incidents are much lower.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Unlike the politically correct Eurabia, you're more likely to survive your trip to the US unscathed.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
In the US, police and citizens are allowed to defend themselves - even against politically incorrect targets. In your country, they're allowed to roam freely to rape/maim/murder people.
Trump is willing to call a spade a spade, perhaps your country should as well. But then that would require you to admit to the failures of multiculturalism and political correctness.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
You won't be missed, as there will be plenty that will visit in your place and enjoying a higher degree of freedom/safety in the US than you do at home.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
You wanted a globalist to be coronated and assume office. The electors, carrying out the will of the people as determined by proportionality, showed otherwise.
Now all they can do is try to smear him with the media.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Trump is not a fool. He is blinded by his own arrogance into believing he can do absolutely anything and have it come out in his favour, even when it doesn't. I don't know if "delusional" is the appropriate term, but that's another term I would use to describe him.
Previously it's always been a friendly place to visit.
It still is, and safer by leaps and bounds. People aren't disarmed by multiculturalism or political correctness, but by good citizens able & willing to defend themselves against criminals.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Sorry, this has little to do with Trump. Almost all tourism here (USA) starts with airplanes/airports. The hysteria/irrational security of airports and airplanes started a long time ago and tourism has been suffering every year since.
The current issue with a few Middle Eastern countries is just a blip on the radar of how overall tourism has been affected. And none of this even mentions tourism WITHIN the USA by Americans, which is also down because of the ridiculous harassment at airports.
Well when you roll out the "You're-Not-Welcome" mat, what do you expect people to do?
As if this shit wasn't in full bloom with Obama at the helm. There just is less pretense now.
Well...
I'd be just as happy with half of them not showing up. I'd love to enjoy my town during summer without all the crowds coming to enjoy my beaches and sunshine. The beaches would be in better condition even, despite the tax revenue falling for the city.
Furthermore, since I don't even live in the city limits, I could not care less about their tax revenues.
As if this shit wasn't in full bloom with Obama at the helm. There just is less pretense now.
Well...
I have to agree, yes. You are raising a very true point, thank you for that!
I originally did not intend to go into this, but well, here we are.
When we (me and ma wife) first travelled to the US, we did it under the impression, that only now we could still visit the US withouth them having taken my fingerprints. Only after a cross-continental flight, when we approached Miami, I was told that they already would take fingerprints of my thumbs. I would not have ever gotten to the US if I had known that on entry I'd be treated like a criminal. So I tried to rub off my the fingerprints of my thumbs on the back of the airline seat, but that did not turn to work out.
The next time that I visited I was like: well, they already have the fingerprints of my thumbs, so I can as well go there again. But then they took more fingers the next time! And the next time as well and I thought "well, now they have all my fingerprints already, so why not go there again?" and they took IRIS shots. Dude.
But I love the USA for it is a beautiful country, I love the people and the landscape and it was very sad that visiting that meant to be treated as a criminal on entry, But when I consented to it, it meant that I was freely giving up my very own rights for the benefit of having the honour of giving you thousands of bucks on my Holidays.
Now, on the other hand, if you request access to my phone or social media accounts, than this refers to communication with other people. Meaning, you are not only giving away your own privacy in consent, your are agreeing to give away third persons (your friends!) privacy rights. And that's not ok, ok? Whether this started under Obama, Bush, Clinton or Bush Sr. is irrelevant. Whether any of these slowed the progress down or speeded it up is irrelevant. This is no longer only about me and my rights but about the rights of my friends and family.
Also, I am subscribed to mailing lists that do not allow me to share it with anybody who is not a list member. It is a whole different thing, if I only have to take care about my own (biometrical) data or if I have to share conversations with third parties. That's where I can no longer visit the US without acting negligent.
p.s. yes, Obama was very disappointing, good point but not what I meant
What you mean is "fewer", Asshole.
From the outside it's not Trumps fault.
It has been going on since 9/11 and the Patriot Act insanity.
The intrusive TSA Security Theatre of Horrors.
The continued problems with Blue Murder that the USA seems to have. An issue for outsiders not drilled in how to survive a police encounter.
Just the simple random GSW issues that seem to occur are also an issue.
But,
With Trump came the apparent rise in racist white supremacist incidents and anti-LGBTI activity.
If you are not White CIS and preferably Male the USA appears to not be a very safe place.
Now,
I know this is appearance over substance, in general, but it's becoming the kind of place where the additional risks are pretty stressful to consider.
Tourism is important to some places and the locals know not to commit the violence on the tourists... the USA does not present this way.
I don't doubt that Trump is a jerk. That's who we're blaming everything on, right?
But first, let's remember that the U.S. $ is what, about 30% stronger than it was just a couple of years ago? That's going to have an impact on tourism, for sure.
Then realise that the U.S. Is a huge country of generally wealthy people who rarely leave that country. That means foreign visitor tourism, while huge numbers, is still nearly meaningless in proportion to Americans traveling internally.
http://www.eturbonews.com/5332...
96.7% of US tourism is domestic.
Ergo, 3.3% is foreign
Foreign tourism could drop by 50% and most venues wouldn't even notice.
-Styopa
What they fail to tell you is that both the Middle East and South America are currently in turmoil from government and terrorist violence. The only people you see traveling away from those regions are refugees which Europe has been refusing to take in due to the violence refugees brought to their once peaceful countries.
California's intentionally porous border and lax ID checks permitted ~3 million to "vote" for the Democrat's approved candidate.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
If it's bad enough that Sweden has to file Islamist crimes away under different codes to make them disappear, then you're going to a worse country.
At least with Detroit, you can arm yourself and have the cops on your side. The average no-go area in Sweden, not so much.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
You have no idea what things are like in Europe, do you.
They have much lower crime rates than the US. Virtually nonexistent gun crimes. Much less problem with police brutality and lack of police accountability for the violence they do cause.
Not to mention healthcare and worker benefits.
Instead, criminals just take it as open season on everyone given that nobody can (or will) fight back.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
There are many reasons NOT to travel to the U.S., as stated in the various comments.
Trump has given Americans permission to treat visitors with contempt.
Canada, Mexico, Europe etc. will see their tourism $$.$$ increase!