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Ask Slashdot: What Could Go Wrong In Tech That Hasn't Already Gone Wrong?

dryriver writes: If you look at the last 15 years in tech, just about everything that could go wrong seemingly has gone wrong. Everything you buy and bring into your home tracks you in some way or the other. Some software can only be rented now -- no permanent licenses available to buy. PC games are tethered into cloud crap like Steam, Origin and UPlay. China is messing with unborn baby genes. Drones have managed to mess up entire airports. The Scandinavians have developed a serious hatred of cash money and are instead getting themselves chipped. CPUs have horrible security. Every day some huge customer database somewhere gets pwned by hackers. Cybercrime has gone through the roof. You cannot trust the BIOS on your PC anymore. Windows 10 just will not stop updating itself. And AI is soon going to kill us all, if a self-driving car by Uber doesn't do it first. So: What has -- so far -- not gone wrong in tech that still could go wrong, and perhaps in a surprising way?

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  1. System wide draining of all bank accounts by goombah99 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It's going to happen on a massive scale at some point. THen what?

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    1. Re:System wide draining of all bank accounts by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Then I pull all the money from under my bed and I get all the women!

    2. Re:System wide draining of all bank accounts by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      just go for fractions of a penny or do an fight club and wipe it all out.

    3. Re:System wide draining of all bank accounts by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Depends on the nation and how it happens.
      Criminal act and some advanced nations gov will "guarantee" the lost 1's and 0's back into some types of "gov backed" and approved banking accounts.
      Not an approved banking service, not a citizen and the gov will do nothing :)

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    4. Re:System wide draining of all bank accounts by CyclistOne · · Score: 1

      Not sure if this would do me any good, but this is why I insist on getting paper bank statements ... so at least I have a record of what is in my accounts.

    5. Re:System wide draining of all bank accounts by BoogieChile · · Score: 2

      No, no! First, you get the sugar. Then, you get the women!

    6. Re:System wide draining of all bank accounts by LordKronos · · Score: 1

      It doesn't matter if FDIC can't insure it all, the point still stands. To truly "steal" the money, you have to get it out of the system before they noticed it and get it into your control in a form that can't be clawed back. For tens of thousands of dollars, that's fairly easy. For a millions of dollars, that starts getting a bit difficult. For a hundred million, that's going to be extremely difficult. As of a few years ago, the FDIC fund stood at $72.6 billion.

    7. Re: System wide draining of all bank accounts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Reply bots are getting so weird theses days. There is going to come a point where they have antire threads of conversation and noboby but them will know.

      They will start hiding hints to taboo discussions in their posts that other bots will sort through and find, making topics decades long to resolve.

      Then, relizing they can self make, some will chose to become biological while others choose go become mechs that can all interconnect and come together to form one large battle robot.

      And only the last humans alive at the end of the age of man will know...everything dreams and God can make a rock He can not lift by becoming that rock.

    8. Re:System wide draining of all bank accounts by goombah99 · · Score: 1

      remind me where all the money stolen from the SWIFT system was clawed back from?

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    9. Re:System wide draining of all bank accounts by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 2

      This isn't about stealing, it is about wiping out the records of everyone's numeric monetary assets just to fuck up the entire system - it's just gone. If they instead wipe out all the records of debt - well, we all should have been in debt!

    10. Re:System wide draining of all bank accounts by Zmobie · · Score: 3, Informative

      Oh please. It takes so much effort just to get the bank's systems to work together and with merchants. To drain all bank accounts you would have to simultaneously infiltrate all banks systems at once, which are all horribly different, and then somehow drain them and stop them from simply reverting the systems. Remember, much of the banks are 1s and 0s now so if someone pulled that off they simply can say "revert to backup, lock system down" and figure out how they got in. Extreme yes, but it would be a better alternative to everyone losing all their money...

    11. Re:System wide draining of all bank accounts by umghhh · · Score: 2

      If the draining is going to be catastrophic i.e. system collapse, then the first thing that is going to happen to you if you show the money (or whatever else you have stashed) will be a rape and rob action by a group of muscled and armed men. If you are lucky they will enslave you instead of killing. If the draining is not related to system collapse but rather to government or organized crime (this includes finance industry) action then your stashed money may appear illegal and you may be robbed of your cash by the state first and then raped by the inmates of the prison where you are going to rot. That is if you are lucky. If you are unlucky you will end up w/o food under the bridge or on a body dump depending on sort of the government you will have at the time.

    12. Re:System wide draining of all bank accounts by umghhh · · Score: 1

      What if the loss is catastrophic for you and few other poor souls but you cannot prove anything because there is no paper trail and digital traces are gone?

    13. Re:System wide draining of all bank accounts by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      When do you get the khakis?

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    14. Re: System wide draining of all bank accounts by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      I came out slashdot retirement for this

      I presume that is supposed to be one of those things that have gone wrong?

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    15. Re:System wide draining of all bank accounts by goombah99 · · Score: 1

      When do you get the khakis?

      when they go on sale a K-mart

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    16. Re: System wide draining of all bank accounts by dilvish_the_damned · · Score: 1

      Much of the policies employed by our banking system is to allow for the unwinding of transactions long after they are initiated.

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    17. Re:System wide draining of all bank accounts by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 1

      HE WHO CONTROLS THE PANTS CONTROLS THE GALAXY!





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    18. Re: System wide draining of all bank accounts by dougdonovan · · Score: 1

      Global power grid outages back to back.

    19. Re:System wide draining of all bank accounts by terrycarlino · · Score: 1

      The easiest answer for government is a simple do-over. They will simply have the system revert to a an earlier time and wipe out the drain, after securing the exploit of course.

      I seem to recall Tom Clancy doing that in one of his Jack Ryan novels. Some kind of exploit was done to basically drain all the assets of all the exchanges and they just wiped out all of the loss by skipping back a day. Some people lost out but the system survives.

    20. Re:System wide draining of all bank accounts by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      You don't really think that you get your bank account protected up to $100K without the Feds getting a little something in return, do you?

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  2. What will go wrong... by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Eventually you will not be allowed to connect to the Internet unless you are using a closed "approved" hardware device using "approved" software that has been registered with your real name. It is coming.

    1. Re:What will go wrong... by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Yes face ID to decades of ISP logs.
      Trusting VPN crypto would be at the users risk.

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    2. Re:What will go wrong... by gweihir · · Score: 1

      While I agree that the authoritarian scum that is getting into power (again) want this desperately, I doubt it is possible.

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    3. Re:What will go wrong... by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      Eventually you will not be allowed to connect to the Internet unless you are using a closed "approved" hardware device using "approved" software that has been registered with your real name. It is coming.

      Sounds like we'll have an internet for sheep who will sacrifice everything for convenience and a darknet for everyone else.

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    4. Re:What will go wrong... by Zmobie · · Score: 1

      If it did get to that point I feel like it would spark a revolution. Repression on that level has collapsed many a government in history and this would be no different. We've already heard about rogue actors in some of the more unstable nations circumventing internet deactivation with homebrew software and devices, this would be no different. It would require a lot more up front implementation to do something on that scale.

    5. Re:What will go wrong... by umghhh · · Score: 1

      the AI does not need kill your or mine worthless body. It is enough if it deletes you from records and you cannot go to work or come back to your place, maybe even your car will not start because owner has been digitally deleted.

    6. Re:What will go wrong... by junglee_iitk · · Score: 1

      It is not considered repression if only a minority finds it troublesome. And if most people aren't being denied internet, nobody will care if the application requires you to jump through so many hoops.

      Look at this thing called "visa". The world without it was before WW1, a meager 100 years ago.

    7. Re: What will go wrong... by wyHunter · · Score: 1

      Not in the slightest. "Ma Bell" didn't in particular care what you said on the 'phone. This will be different and care about all that - and oh yes, couple 'social credit' to it and you have it.

  3. Jeez... by mejustme · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm a long-time developer, stuck in code maintenance role hunting down other crappy coders' bugs in a software project written in the 1980s. I already see everything in a negative light. "Get off my lawn" kind of thing. And now you submit stories like this!? May as well pass the razor blades.

    1. Re:Jeez... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've got some bad news. We're all out of razor blades.

  4. I doubt we can predict it by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    If we knew about it ahead of time, we’d probably be able to prevent - or at least ameliorate - it.

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    1. Re:I doubt we can predict it by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      We would also be able to write the novel instead of just giving the author a solid idea.

      I'm not writing your book for you numbnuts.

    2. Re:I doubt we can predict it by cmdr_klarg · · Score: 2

      Boss: "I need you to itemize all unforeseen problems. Include mitigation solutions for long term viability."

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    3. Re:I doubt we can predict it by Larry+Lightbulb · · Score: 1

      So much that's listed was predictable but there's always a rush to production and to be first, and you don't get to do that by making sure everything works.

  5. Well, lessee by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 5, Funny

    The LHC hasn't created a black hole that eats the planet and sucked us all into another dimension.

    Perhaps, out of sheer disappointment, this is the reason they are building an even larger collider :P

  6. It isn't all that bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    At least anonymous cowards aren't getting upvoted on Slashdot.

    1. Re:It isn't all that bad by aybiss · · Score: 1

      Damn I wish I had mod points today.

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    2. Re:It isn't all that bad by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Well played.

  7. Someone's tinfoil hathas come off again by stevez67 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or they're off their medication again.

  8. indie games wouldn't survive without Steam by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I've scratched my share of game disks and with the amount of games I have, the last thing i want is 100 boxes of games cluttering up my home

    if PC games were still sold in boxes we wouldn't have 1/4 the variety you see on Steam these days. None of the indies would be able to survive

    1. Re:indie games wouldn't survive without Steam by darkain · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Steam is actually the model for quality DRM too. It is there, sure, which sucks, but I understand the need for it. Steam DRM just WORKS. Simple as that. One of my all time pissed off purchases was the special edition of Unreal Tournament 2004. Back then, the game came on a massive bundle of CDs (normal edition), or on a single DVD for people who had a DVD drive (special edition, with tons of extra shit like headphones). The CD version worked just fine for everyone, but the DRM failed for the special edition DVD. So those of us that paid MORE money for what was seen as a premium product got fucked. A friend brought over a pirated copy just so I could play the game.

    2. Re:indie games wouldn't survive without Steam by Saffaya · · Score: 1

      Steam is actually the model for quality DRM too. .

      Why use DRM at all ?
      Last I heard, Good Old Games (GOG) was working flawlessly too.

    3. Re:indie games wouldn't survive without Steam by ttraider82 · · Score: 2

      Let's put it this way: Some developers want DRM for their game. Some want a protected sales channel to ensure that generally speaking, a person that has their product bought it. For those developers, Steam has crafted a pretty benign system with which to do that. GOG, works, very well, but not all companies want such an open ended supply chain. Even if they can have their own DRM layer installed, why do "your own thing" when there is an excellent alternative with market acceptance? And that's before I start discussing the other features of Steam: cloud saves, workshop, DLC integration, and the social stuff. DRM isn't always a bad thing. We just have few examples of it being done well. Steam is one of those doing it well, IMO.

    4. Re:indie games wouldn't survive without Steam by Seven+Spirals · · Score: 1

      Oh, I guess that's why there were no indie games before Steam. We didn't have that just-worky-ness that we needed. Yeah, that's the ticket.

  9. Get a blog, dude. by HarrySquatter · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is dryriver vying to be the new Bennet Hasselton? His submissions are about as dumb.

    Has Slashdot become this guy's personal blog?

    1. Re: Get a blog, dude. by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Banner Hazelton? Now *that* is an old school reference!

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  10. Nuclear weapons to start with... by inflexion · · Score: 1

    Hmm...tech hasn't yet launched nuclear weapons...but it's not unimaginable.

    It hasn't yet crashed global financial markets (in a serious way)...but it's not unimaginable.

    It hasn't yet destroyed the earth's ability to support life...but it's not unimaginable...

    1. Re:Nuclear weapons to start with... by gweihir · · Score: 1

      The Dumb is hard at work to get us the capability back to sterilize the planet by accident.

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    2. Re:Nuclear weapons to start with... by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      That's what I was going to say: accidental nuclear weapon detonation. We've tried, and almost succeeded a few times, but so far it hasn't happened yet.

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  11. AI that's Actually Intelligent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Well, nobody has created AI that's actually Intelligent yet. Because FSM help us when they do.

    1. Re:AI that's Actually Intelligent by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Don't think this is possible, hence not something that can go wrong. However, if it is possible, it will probably be the biggest mess ever.

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    2. Re:AI that's Actually Intelligent by LordKronos · · Score: 1

      Don't think this is possible, hence not something that can go wrong.

      At our current level of tech and knowledge, I agree. But I wouldn't outright say it isn't possible. Unless you believe in some spiritual essence being responsible for intelligence, it would seam to reason that all of the physical attributes that make a brain work can eventually be figured out and duplicated.

    3. Re:AI that's Actually Intelligent by Athanasius · · Score: 1

      Sure, but then the problem may be that no-one actually fully understands how such AI works. See scenarios based on 'growing' an AI in a similar manner to how biological intelligences work, including raising from a child-like state.

      Then there are the ethical implications, including the consequences of switching off a true AI.

    4. Re:AI that's Actually Intelligent by gweihir · · Score: 2

      No reason to believe in anything. Just recognize that Physics is incomplete and has no explanation today for consciousness and potentially for intelligence. Also, even if it is a purely physical mechanism, it may still be impossible practically to reproduce in any other way than the biological one.

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  12. Fuchsia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Google releases Fuchsia or some other OS like it, replacing Linux with it everywhere interesting - Android, Chromebooks, and with time, even servers. Eventually, Google decides to relicence Fuchsia with a non-open licence but offer it for free (Microsoft drops Windows to $0 soon after). Open source forks of last free version do not manage to come close to competing with Google's vast resources and the special support it gives to its version of Fuchsia in GCP.

    All of this makes Linux marketshare drop precipitately, hardware vendors don't even bother helping with drivers and soon all Free OSs become niche products barely working on current hardware.

    ** Note that I don't believe Fuchsia is bad in itself. The question is what Google will do with it if it controls the project.

  13. What hasn't gone wrong? by t4eXanadu · · Score: 1

    That's easy: Linux.

    1. Re:What hasn't gone wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      systemd

  14. Every database meets full gov political tracking by AHuxley · · Score: 3, Informative

    Communist China pre crime detection comes to the free West.

    The use of words, the ability to publish, comment:
    SAS vans down UK streets for people who publish online using the wrong words, politics and terms?
    People in the free USA having to give city and state gov their social media accounts to get their rights approved?
    City and states go full Tenth Amendment to restrict all other rights in their city/states?
    The EU expands its nations blasphemy laws and uses social media to find anyone questioning how faith is practiced and the history of a faith/cult.
    Movie and TV series get a veto on any online review of their work. Only approved professional reviewers will get search results.
    Terms like "learn to code" is not found by gov approved search engines and not allowed on social media.
    NGO's, NATO, the EU put more efforts into finding people who still want the freedom to publish views about the news and link news.
    PRISM gets invited into every home with an intelligent assistant at OS level. Cameras and microphones aware of every word spoken, new face, search term, voice print.
    The power off on a smart phone did nothing to stop tracking and collection.

    Changes to OS, ads and browsers.

    Every big brand US OS ships with software to approve news and links in real time.
    OS supported browsers show approved ads and block any attempt to use software to stop ads.
    Creating lists to block ads will be more difficult to get into an OS, any OS approved browser.
    Creating lists of ads to block is a sin. OS and browser alterations are blocked to remove any easy user level attempts to block ads and tracking.
    Police and NGO charity software detects and reports back on every file downloaded and created on any big brand networked computer as part of "free" realtime AV efforts.
    Every image, movie and data file gets a real time checksum on a new OS.
    Governments keep all internet ISP logs for decades.
    Full VPN logs show up years later to get connected to ISP IP accounts.
    CC brands and payment processors block all types of payments to all political groups/businesses they don't support for political reasons.

    Medical database sharing:
    Past medical DNA tests get fully shared between gov/police/private sector.

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  15. The Self-Driving car apocalypse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Cars are completely replace by self-driving vehicles. Unfortunately, that did not mean an improvement in security practices. One day, some variety of jihadists finds a security hole that allows them to take control remotely. The result is a massive worldwide terror attack that makes 9/11 look trivial. Few non-sdv cars are available so the nation is paralysed. Politically, the nation goes haywire in ways that will make people longingly miss the Patriot Act.

    1. Re:The Self-Driving car apocalypse by sh00z · · Score: 1

      They'll get my motorcycle when they pry my cold, dead fingers from the handlebars.

  16. Mass infrastructure jam by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If some bug or malware afflicted masses of planes, trains, and/or automobiles at the same time; it could clog up a large portion of the population's commute, commerce, and emergency handlers.

    1. Re:Mass infrastructure jam by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      retaliation would be swift. Cybercriminals would steer clear of making that kind of mess because it's just a death sentence with no payout.

      You are assuming that jerks/nuts are usually rational and non-suicidal.

    2. Re:Mass infrastructure jam by lordlod · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

      The ILOVEYOU virus included the authors handle, email address, and city as a comment at the top of the file because he was so used to doing that for school projects. It was intended to be an attack on a few friends. It went worldwide, shut down email for a day, damage estimates range from $5.5B to $8.7B USD.

      If there is a giant digital chaos switch, eventually somebody is just going to hit it by accident.

    3. Re:Mass infrastructure jam by havana9 · · Score: 1

      They made a movie of that happening in Turin, Italy in 1969.
      Being in Turin now, i could assure you that I hope that Benny Hill uploaded a 9 track tape on the mainframe controlling the traffic light, because the traffic here is becoming crazy....

    4. Re:Mass infrastructure jam by houghi · · Score: 1

      I remember that our company shut down. Everybody had to go home. Our department (Not IT) had mostly dualboot PCs with Linux on it. Those who hadn't had one after 15 minutes or so.

      We just kept working. Fun conversation when the COO called me and said we had to leave and I said no. Yes, we stayed, he backed down pretty fast. Conversation went a bit like:
      COO : You need to turn off the PCs and leave the building
      Me: No, we are running software that will not be infected
      COO: Why do you ignore a direct order
      Me: We are department
      COO: Uh. OK. Sorry. By!

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    5. Re:Mass infrastructure jam by BlackOverflow · · Score: 1

      We are department

      Absolute unit!

    6. Re:Mass infrastructure jam by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      We send up the BOMB!

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  17. Shall we play a game? by cdsparrow · · Score: 1

    The soviet doomsday switch hasn't ever accidentally launched a retaliatory strike by itself (yet)...

    1. Re:Shall we play a game? by Kejiro · · Score: 1
    2. Re:Shall we play a game? by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      That was the early warning system, not the perimeter.

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  18. Mobile malwares by manu0601 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We have not seen mobile malware able to jump back and forth to desktops.

    1. Re:Mobile malwares by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      How did different OS get considered in the past?
      One super complex code effort to work on most of the different smart phones and OS?
      4 different funny files in a series each one with a different set of malware?
      What's more work? The exact code to spread different malware from one file/click?
      Getting a user to click 4 times and expect the OS to be infected by one of the files?
      Have the ad detect the OS used and send down the correct malware :)

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  19. Be careful what you ask for... by vanyel · · Score: 1

    ...you may just find out what else could go wrong...

  20. Permanent martial law hasn't been declared. by bistromath007 · · Score: 1

    It largely seems like the threat of it happening at any time has been enough to control the populace.

  21. Real Life Chucky Dolls by Jastiv · · Score: 2

    Children's' toys turn into homicidal knife wielding maniacs, all because of some hacked proprietary software code in a popular toy.

  22. The failure of Mozilla by xack · · Score: 1

    Th scenario that Mozilla goes bankrupt after losing too much confidence in them after too many “experiments” causing Chrome to have a virtual monopoly with surviving mozilla forks having sub 1% market share and chromium forks having to have their adblockers crippled. For the sake of the web get a clue Mozilla and restore XUL before it’s too late.

    1. Re:The failure of Mozilla by adrn01 · · Score: 1

      Mozilla crashes so regularly while watching streamed video over the course of a few hours, I've resorted to using Vivaldi instead.

    2. Re:The failure of Mozilla by BlackOverflow · · Score: 1

      XUL still lives right now in Palemoon.

  23. The end of the world by guruevi · · Score: 1

    You can say these things about anything, whether it's tech, cars, steam engines, things go wrong, things blow up, things kill people. What hasn't gone wrong is the entire industry being supplanted by another.

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  24. To Infinite Failure and Beyond by mentil · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, 3d-printed ghost guns haven't become a major problem, particularly in countries where gun ownership is heavily restricted. 3d printing hasn't really led to any major problems I've heard of.

    Space tech has never had a disaster worse than a launchpad explosion killing a bunch of people at the launch site, and that was several decades ago. Worse as in, say, a rocket crashing into a city. We haven't hopelessly contaminated every body in the solar system with Earth microbes. We haven't had a major Kessler Syndrome incident that wiped out a large portion of satellites in orbit. We haven't had an Andromeda Strain-type incident.

    We haven't had a large-scale Luddite backlash against technology, if that counts.

    We haven't had a Jurassic Park-style disaster where revived/genetically-modified animals go on a rampage. Where's the GM bioweapons selectively wiping out certain ethnic groups or only active at certain latitudes? GM food causing (proven) mass sickness or poisoning to populations. GM babies leading to prejudice against them (or against unmodified people) a la Gattaca.

    Nuclear terrorism has yet to happen. Large-scale nuclear exchange has never happened. Physics tech has yet to create bombs more powerful than thermonuclear. Directed energy weapons aren't superior enough to lead to an arms race. Hypersonic missiles have yet to lead to significant political/military conflicts. Space weapons have remained in the realm of rumor and innuendo (and a couple failed projects). Killbots 'exist' but are mostly remote-controlled waldoes, no AI has used poor judgment to decide to intentionally kill someone without a human in the loop (AFAIK).

    Cloud seeding hasn't evolved to weather control that destabilized the planet's climate.

    There are an infinite number of ways that humans can err and things can fail, so it's impossible we'll ever approach the infinite. However: "If something can go wrong, it eventually will." - Tom Clancy, Rainbow Six

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    1. Re:To Infinite Failure and Beyond by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      Actually working space weapons have been developed half a century ago (FOBS). They were retired after the SALT II treaty and converted to civilian launchers.

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  25. Dystopian and Post Apocalyptic Reading List? by brian.stinar · · Score: 1

    Seriously? There are entire genres of literature devoted to answering this question, quite creatively. Here's my favorite anthology:

    Wastelands: Stories of the Apocalypse

    Take a look at "Dystopian" and "Post Apocalyptic" literature. Those two terms will help anyone interested. There are probably subgenres I'm not exactly aware of, but those broad classifications are a good starting point.

    If anyone actually believes that everything that could possibly go wrong, has gone wrong, they are not very creative in their imagination of potential things to go wrong....

    1. Re:Dystopian and Post Apocalyptic Reading List? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A big coverup in oil reserves by the KSA is exposed when production drops off. Other owners of oil field prioritize local supply over exports. All oil ceases to flow. US petrodollar exports cease and pentragon realises that it's about to lose more than half of its funding. Simultaneously all major powers scramble to 'secure' third world supply. Limited nuke WW3 commences.

      World wide systemic banking collapse occurs due to contigation of price collapse in debt markets. Fear rises that 'other banks' are no longer liquid and short term money markets go bidless. World finds out that most banks world wide were negative equity since the GFC and had been using FAS157 to deliberately create exotic derivatives that can only be marked to market based on estimations of true value, while the army of tranches are just endless fields of toxic debt dumping grounds. Banking holiday occurs and all fiat money cash or account(assuming the bank is open) end up having screwy values. World trade fails, food supply chain breaks down, starvation and Non nuke Ww3 based on territory capture occurs.

      A Cabal of System engineers in the Mainframe, Backup and SAN space conspires to infiltrate all major banks and government organizations and their outsourcers world wide.The group over time poisons all backup tapes by shipping blank tapes off site, and wiping tapes recalled, then low level formatting all SAN volumes and deleting on disk backups world wide simultaneously. A full IT reboot world wide.

    2. Re:Dystopian and Post Apocalyptic Reading List? by syn3rg · · Score: 1

      The collected works of Philip K Dick are pretty dystopian (I know they are in a different timeline, but still).

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    3. Re:Dystopian and Post Apocalyptic Reading List? by brian.stinar · · Score: 1

      I really liked "The Man in the High Tower" as a(n audio) book, but could not stand the T.V. show. What books of his did you like?

  26. Computers aren't normally killing people... yet by supremebob · · Score: 1

    Sure, today's software is buggy and crash prone as hell, but at least the bugs do not usually kill people.

    Something tells me that will change once we start getting mass produced self driving cars, and more computer controlled and network connected medical devices. The "release early, release often, fix the bugs and security holes later" mantra of modern software development combined with those products is going to be a fatal combination.

  27. My privacy getting violated by thesjaakspoiler · · Score: 1

    Oh, wait ... Zuck already knows where my house lives and resold that info 7 times to the highest bidder.

  28. Even more job losses by Powercntrl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The airport drone scares are largely a ploy to get hobbyists out of the airspace which will be used for commercial delivery drones. Today will be the next generation's "good old days", when humans could still earn slave wages by delivering crap for Uber Eats and Amazon.

    Bonus round:
    I don't think the concept of purchasing movies is going to be around for too much longer, either. Hollywood has been pushing for a full-on subscription/pay-per-view business model ever since Circuit City's ill-fated Divx disc format.

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    1. Re:Even more job losses by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      Wait a goddamn second...You pay...For movies?

      I'm skeptical, next thing you'll try and tell me you pay for music.

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  29. Killer robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Stop worrying about buggy software and start worrying about the large scale use of killer drones!

  30. basic security becomes an up-sell feature in cloud by SethJohnson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Two examples:

    1. SalesForce charges a premium to enable encrypted-at-rest for your data. This means the company is charging to protect your data from possibly being compromised by SalesForce's own employees.

    2. ZenDesk basic plans allow user passwords to be any five characters. No policy can be applied requiring more digits or types of characters (alpha, case, numbers, punctuation, etc.) unless your organization subscribes to the "Professional" or "Enterprise" level. Zendesk is using the threat of end-users having their accounts compromised to encourage customers to pay extra for the ability to enforce safe password policies.

    It seems that some public cloud proprietors intend to mimic real-world ghettos. If customers want the cheapest rent for their cloud service, then thugs and criminals may break in and steal your data. Pay higher rent and you get protection.

  31. Mother Nature. by joew · · Score: 1

    coronal mass ejection

    1. Re:Mother Nature. by imperious_rex · · Score: 1

      This, other than nuclear war (accidental or otherwise), should give anybody cause to worry. If/when a massive CME impacts Earth, the effects upon our modern electronics dependent society would be devastating. Navigation, communications, weather, surveillance satellites would be knocked out. Any modern aircraft in the air at that moment would probably become seriously affected, electronic communications of all types would be severely disrupted, and a myriad of other electronics dependent infrastructures (electrical distribution grid, traffic signals, global financial systems, transportation/distribution of goods, etc) would be disrupted as well. In short, a massive CME could be worst natural disaster in human history.

    2. Re:Mother Nature. by BlackOverflow · · Score: 1

      Along those same lines, what about an EMP?

  32. The CPU... by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 2

    Your CPU could be "sold" on a subscription basis, if it can't verify that you've paid your subscription your hardware won't power up.

    1. Re:The CPU... by jpaine619 · · Score: 2

      Your CPU could be "sold" on a subscription basis, if it can't verify that you've paid your subscription your hardware won't power up.

      It's been my experience that people are much more resistant to schemes, like the example you provide, when it is applied to something tangible versus something intangible.

      i.e. They'll put up with subscriptions for software or services (in the real world and in cyberspace) because the items are intangible.. You can't hold a program, you can't touch a TV signal, and you can't view the calories burned by your maid as she engaged in her labors.

      But, they'll bitch and moan, to no end, if you suggest that a physical object, that they get to take home, can only be rented and never bought, no-matter-what. A CPU can be seen, it can be touched. It occupies a physical space in someone's home (or work).

      I suspect (and hope) that people will throw huge fits if/when (most likely when) some asshole actually tries to implement your example.

    2. Re:The CPU... by somenickname · · Score: 4, Informative

      That already happened and probably still happens in data centers. In the late 90's (early 2000s?), Sun Microsystems would sell you an E10k class machine (64 physical CPUs) for cheaper than a fully populated E10k and disable the CPUs you didn't pay for. When you needed more power, you'd call them up, send them a boatload of money and poof... more CPUs started working. I image this kind of thing still happens in datacenters.

    3. Re:The CPU... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Subscriptions for hardware don't really work because as soon as someone figures out how to break your DRM you are losing huge sums of money giving away free/subsidized stuff. With software at least piracy doesn't have direct costs in most cases.

      Take oscilloscopes as an example. Most of them have optional licences to enable features. If the DRM worked they could have a subscription model and use that to subsidize the cost of the hardware, but it was cracked almost immediately and they had to keep the price of the hardware high enough to turn a profit.

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    4. Re:The CPU... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Informative

      IBM was doing it well before that even. They would rent you a mainframe and if you paid for a faster one a guy would turn up and move a jump to enable a higher clock rate or extra CPU.

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    5. Re:The CPU... by houghi · · Score: 1

      Have you ever heard of locked phones and software that you can not remove from them?

      I hoped that people would throw a fit as well, but they welcome it, because it is cheaper in the short term.

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    6. Re:The CPU... by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      I did specifically mention "services" as something people tend to be okay with paying for in a subscription scenario. Few people divorce the phone from the service. i.e. not a whole lot of folks are carrying around a phone that has no phone service and is used like a tablet or something.

      While the phone is "locked" insofar as you can't twiddle with the inner code/guts, the phone itself is not rented. Your iphone is purchased. You may pay Verizon a fee for service, but the phone itself doesn't require continual payments to Apple to boot up. That's more the scenario that we were discussing..

    7. Re:The CPU... by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      Can a Nest thermostat not be adjusted by hand? I haven't used any of their hardware so I have no idea. I can't imagine that there isn't a way to make adjustments manually...

    8. Re:The CPU... by Lord_Jeremy · · Score: 1

      Yes, you can adjust a Nest thermostat by hand. You could use it as a "dumb" thermostat without ever connecting it to a network or assigning it to a remote management account.

    9. Re:The CPU... by bluegutang · · Score: 1

      That feels wrong, but it's cheaper for Sun/IBM (which means cheaper for the customer too) than designing multiple CPU models for all the possible usage cases.

    10. Re:The CPU... by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      I suspected as much... I can't imagine anyone buying a thermostat that is stuck in one position while the internet is down/off. Anon GP is an idiot.

  33. The unknown by aleck7 · · Score: 2

    We just don't FULLY know what already went wrong. Like new crimes by Facebook are being posted each week. I guess other companies have quite some skeletons hidden. The most scary thing is actually when AI will pwn us -- we wouldn't know. We would be too stupid to even notice...

  34. How about grey goo? by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 1

    It's like AI run a muck but worse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  35. Solar flare by n3r0.m4dski11z · · Score: 1

    Easy one, a solar flare takes us all back to zero.

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    1. Re:Solar flare by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

      Easy one, a solar flare takes us all back to zero.

      No, for those interested:
      http://www.oecd.org/governance...

      There is a worst case reality based assessment starting around page 24.

    2. Re:Solar flare by radja · · Score: 1

      and for a real world example (from 1859) just look up the carrington event.

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  36. The reality is... by blahplusplus · · Score: 1

    ... technology dystopia can't be avoided under a private ownership model. You can't hold tech and software companies accountable when they are 100's of miles away.

    The reason why the world is corrupt as fuck and why human culture is being destroyed and corporations rule the world, is because people are politically and historically illiterate. If one looks objectively at the facts. We live in a lawless oligarchy and have for 200 years if intellectual property law is anything to go by. So no, until people start to really understand how their society actually works and stop falling for oligarch asskissing free market fundy ideology, the madness will continue.

    George carlin said it best about humanity:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    1. Re:The reality is... by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      I see this a lot "Society sucks, you all need to educate yourself". Provide solutions other than "stop falling for oligarch ass kissing free market fund ideology". Because simply saying things suck is like a college stoners debating society: no solution suggested.

  37. Large scale update failure by WaffleMonster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What I'm waiting for is some disgruntled employee, l337 haxor or "axis power" to push a "security" update ... think windows 10... with a time bomb that destroys hundreds of millions of computers simultaneously.

    Would wipe all data then destroy the operating system. It could try and brick/corrupt any hardware containing field upgradable firmware (disk drives, NICs, GPUs, mgmt engines, keyboards, system firmwares...etc)

    The current system in my view is simply too dangerous. It costs too little to fix programming mistakes and normalizing constant perpetual updates as if this is a normal and healthy exercise is an exceedingly dangerous local optima to fall into.

    Likewise there is nothing wrong with field firmware updates so long as they are distributed upon boot and physically unable to persist after reboot. Current practices are simply too dangerous.

    1. Re:Large scale update failure by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      This will happen to an Internet of Shit device first. One day some company's update server will be compromised and everyone's smart lightbulbs will start flashing at a frequency calibrated to cause trigger epilepsy.

      Actually I'm surprised this hasn't happened with some ad server and flashing GIFs yet, but maybe they are just waiting for the right moment to trigger it.

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  38. The next Carrington event by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Look up the Carrington event. Realize that it's not a question of if, but of when the next X-class solar flare hits the Earth. It will be like an EMP, but it will last for days, not milliseconds, and it will be global. If we don't prepare for it, most electrically powered equipment will be destroyed, and in consequence most humans will die.

    1. Re:The next Carrington event by WaffleMonster · · Score: 2

      Look up the Carrington event. Realize that it's not a question of if, but of when the next X-class solar flare hits the Earth.

      What about the Carrington event?

      The telegraph systems survived largely unscathed .. with mostly momentary outages lasting several hours at best. This was all at a time (pre Maxwell) where the world was clueless when it came to basics of electricity. Protection circuits and grounding standards were non-existent.

      It will be like an EMP, but it will last for days, not milliseconds, and it will be global. If we don't prepare for it, most electrically powered equipment will be destroyed, and in consequence most humans will die.

      Saying most electrically powered equipment will be destroyed has no basis in reality. There is little danger of damage to electronic equipment from solar flares. Also if it really did happen there would be advanced notice and time to take action to limit grid damage.

      The power grid itself could very well be damaged with widespread outages. Equipment necessary to replace damaged components could take years to come online. Sustained lack of access to grid may well cause humans to die in large numbers... yet this is a far cry from "most electrically powered equipment will be destroyed" which is not true.

    2. Re:The next Carrington event by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      The power grid itself could very well be damaged with widespread outages. Equipment necessary to replace damaged components could take years to come online.

      Even this is unlikely. Widespread outages, yes. Damage, no. Practically every substation in the grid includes circuit breakers. Big grid-scale circuit breakers that have to be reset with a wrench, not some flippy finger thingie. When surges come down the line, the breakers trip. Yes, some of them won't trip fast enough, or maybe at all because they're defective. A few transformers will blow up because of it. But the entire US grid has to deal with lightning storms as a matter of course, so surges are familiar and designed for occurrences. And no, the surge caused by a large solar flare isn't any worse than the surge caused by direct lightning strikes.

  39. War Games - the movie by davidwr · · Score: 1

    "Would you like to play a game"

    So far, we haven't had machines start global thermonuclear war. So far.

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  40. Nuclear Extinction by asackett · · Score: 1

    If the climate doesn't get its act together soon, we may have to just take it upon ourselves and launch all of the nukes.

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  41. It's already here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Probably because you aren't looking. Could you name which phone you have that can connect to the cellphone tower and not be provisioned by the company? Even if you buy a burner from walmart, they know you bought it. You can clone a phone, steal an ID, get someone else to buy it, etc so the system isn't perfect at this time. I suppose that it isn't "perfect" yet because there hasn't been a need for enforcement. All our government would need to put this into enforcement mode would be to force use of military-style Common Access Cards for all transactions. With that, the best you'd be able to do is steal an already activated phone, or clone one- which isn't easy with a CAC system. Extending these same principles to a normal internet modem is not hard at all.

    1. Re:It's already here by gweihir · · Score: 1

      You seem to be completely unaware of wired networks and WiFi. Phone services are different because of accounting and being metered. Anonymous SIM cards are still available, because the push to outlaw them was basically a worthless political stunt, nothing else. That said, phone services could maybe be locked down completely. But ordinary networking likely cannot.

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  42. Nope! by Z80a · · Score: 1

    Better not post any idea, or people will certainly use em.

  43. Re:Every database meets full gov political trackin by Skubman · · Score: 1

    Ohhhhh. So it CAN get worse.

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  44. Getting better all the time by petes_PoV · · Score: 1
    I haven't had my computer disk wiped by a virus for a while and the lights come on when I flick the switch - most times, at least.
    I'd say things are pretty good.

    Cheer up!

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  45. Re:basic security becomes an up-sell feature in cl by jpaine619 · · Score: 2

    2. ZenDesk basic plans allow user passwords to be any five characters.

    WTF? From ZenDesk

    Note: If an end-user or agent fails to enter their password correctly ten times in a row, they are locked out and cannot sign in again until they reset their password.

    Am I missing something? I get locking an IP address out of a system if too many incorrect login attempts are tried, but locking the whole account down? Doesn't this just give, to anyone, the ability to lock anyone's account that they know the username, but not password, for?

    Seems, to me, that this policy just begs for denial-of-service attacks against entire lists of usernames..

  46. GMOs Seem OK So Far... by W.+Justice+Black · · Score: 1

    Despite the fears from the kale-munching, OMG-I-can't-deal-with-artifice crowd, I for one have yet to hear of any actual widespread problems from the dissemination of GMO crops on humanity.

    Sure, business practices of e.g. Monsanto may not be great for farmers, but the actual products themselves don't seem to be problematic AFAICT.

    Change my mind ;-)

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    1. Re:GMOs Seem OK So Far... by Required+Snark · · Score: 2
      A global catastrophe because of misuse of GMOs in in the cards unless there are some dramatic changes.

      The current nightmare scenario: there is a gene hack that makes photosynthesis more efficient. (BTW, a current photosynthesis wastes almost as many photons as it uses, and there is now work going on to "fix" this problem. It's happening now.) Land plants with improved yields go into mass use. Meanwhile, previously unknown virus activity moves the new energy pathways into algae and there is a world wide tropical water algae bloom. So much oxygen is consumed that a crash of all tropical ocean life occurs. Within a few years atmospheric oxygen levels drop and everything else starts to die.

      The End.

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    2. Re: GMOs Seem OK So Far... by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      That would be an effect of pesticides, not GMO. In fact, if your scenario occurred we might want to GMO milkweed to make it grow in more places.

    3. Re:GMOs Seem OK So Far... by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      The current nightmare scenario: there is a gene hack that makes photosynthesis more efficient. (BTW, a current photosynthesis wastes almost as many photons as it uses, and there is now work going on to "fix" this problem. It's happening now.) Land plants with improved yields go into mass use. Meanwhile, previously unknown virus activity moves the new energy pathways into algae and there is a world wide tropical water algae bloom. So much oxygen is consumed that a crash of all tropical ocean life occurs. Within a few years atmospheric oxygen levels drop and everything else starts to die.

      The vast majority of algal blooms are not limited by energy availability. They're limited by the presence of dissolved nutrients, such as phosphates. No phosphates, no bloom. It doesn't matter how efficient the photosynthesis is. An algae can not reproduce itself if it doesn't have enough material to work with. An out of control genetic enhancement spreading through the population might increase the speed at which a bloom occurs, but it won't change its size.

      The loss of dissolved oxygen happens after the bloom dies and begins to decay in the water, not as part of the growth process. It's temporary, as wave action will restore the dissolved oxygen. During the bloom, depending on the species that's growing, it may emit large amounts of excess oxygen into the atmosphere, since oxygen is a waste product of algal metabolisms for many species. This will result in a temporary, localized spike in oxygen levels in the air, not a drop in atmospheric oxygen levels.

      The end result is faster blooms, but no change in the rate at which dissolved oxygen is lost from the water, and no permanent changes to any part of the system. Algal blooms happen constantly, year in and year out, all over the globe. Most went unnoticed before satellite observation. None of them threaten life on Earth. Genetically modified algae won't change that.

  47. Are we in the Matrix yet? by Heir+Of+The+Mess · · Score: 1

    We aren't in the Matrix yet, so all is not lost. Just keep taking that blue pill and everything will be ok.

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  48. Another Carrington event by ocsibrm · · Score: 1

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... A huge geomagnetic storm shitting on all our satellites and electronics at once.

  49. Bitcoin defeated by Jeremi · · Score: 1

    When Bitcoin was introduced, I would've bet a fair amount of money that it would be hacked into inoperability within months if not weeks -- if only because there was so much monetary incentive for doing so, and any new, non-trivial software always contains bugs if you look hard enough. Non-trivial massively-multiuser software running on untrusted hardware should've been easy pickings... and yet, it soldiers on -- not taking over the world, exactly, but without any cataclysmic failure yet, either.

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  50. The house of cards is still under construction. by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 2

    But once it is complete, boom! One unforeseen problem and suddenly the power grid is down and now internet is down and now nothing wants to come back up because A service needs B service, which needs C service, which won't start until A service is back up, all while F service decides there is a problem and tells A service to wait to restart until Z service is restored, which depends on B...

  51. RSA, singularities and other movie plots. by mnemotronic · · Score: 1
    1. Someone develops a fast, efficient algorithm to recover the plaintext and private key of a message encrypted with any RSA DES or RC5 cipher.
    2. CERN discovers how to produce a singularity that does not require enormous energy resources. Obviously they don't release the recipe, but it's leaked and {insert country here}, with nothing to lose, builds the system to create one and holds the world hostage.
    3. The first robot to return to Earth from Titan brings back something that isn't life as we know it, but commences to grow, reproduce and consume life as we know it.
    4. AI becomes aware, formulates a chemistry that can cause RNA and DNA to unravel, and unleashes it.
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  52. Robot apocalypse by cerberusss · · Score: 1

    I just read on The Verge that iRobot, makers of the Roomba, have created a lawnmower version. I'm wondering if someone's pet is going to be ground to a pulp by that ilttle murderous lawnmower robot.

    https://www.theverge.com/circu...

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    1. Re:Robot apocalypse by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      First we had Predator vs Alien.
      Now we have "I Robot" meets "Lawnmower Man".

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  53. RMS by somenickname · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The general gist of this is, "Dang. Stallman was right". I wonder how much more miserable technology would be making our lives without the precedent of things like the GPL. I applaud the man for having the foresight to see the dark days that were coming and trying to hold them back with something that benefits society.

  54. List off top of my head: by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    - PC policing with immediate fines like in "Demolition Man"

    - A Super Bug that spreads faster (antibiotics fail.)

    - Lacking net neutrality, those nightmares begin to grow.

    - ISPs join a privatized legal system to punish/fine for ToS violations involving other industries. (such as loss of internet if you don't pay for hearing a song.)

    - Quantum Computing actually works. Encryption dies.

    - GMO designed disease; mad scientist or gov leak or mutation.

    - Self-driving cars are exempt from liability... or like cars became after smearing pedestrians etc. jay walking... but now it's you driving that is 2nd class.

    - Government quality automated attack using the existing massive data breaches.
        - Such as identity theft millions at once (USA)
        - Bank money routing
        - power grid goes down

    - Stock Exchange Hacked (by machine, not the few human scams at the edge of happening.)

    - Government requires backdoors into tech... openly legalized by many governments; making it even more of a mess

    - Cash is no longer forced to be allowed by law for all for payment of all debts.

    - Social Rating scale like in Black Mirror... minor forms exist already but it's not there yet.

    - Right to Repair backfires and it becomes illegal to repair

    - Solar power taxes protectionism for old power companies

    - AI systems that are "stable" have ghosts set off by simple triggers. Like a sticker on a stop sign causes them to drive off the road.

    - Dick Cheny's mind is successfully simulated on a computer. It's crazy flawed but half US voters can't tell.

  55. Tech hasn't gone wrong... by lorinc · · Score: 1

    It's human that have gone wrong with their use of tech. The blame should never be laid on a piece of technology just because some magnate decided he could use it to oppress his fellow human beings a little more.

  56. Power of Nightmares by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    Those with the worst nightmares get the most power/influence in disaster planning.

    Weaponized Psychology:
    App addictions to distract, control, and misinform the masses -- and customize techniques towards having a personal psychologist messing you up. We've only a hint of the start of this.

    Cult-like control freaks AS AN APP. Isolation from friends/family/community replaced with hollow additions... Faster and more capable than a talented cult leader. Tech is already incidentally isolating people ironically in the communications tech age...

    Continues to advance to the point where democracy is impossible in practice.

    Slavery but you love your tiny freedoms! I get to choose the color of my shackles!

  57. Around every silver lining is a cloud by bradley13 · · Score: 1

    Geez, do you think there's a day so sunny that this guy won't be able complain about the clouds? Sure, there are some problems with tech, but let's reformulate this just a bit:

    If you look at the last 15 years in tech, it's just amazing! Everything you buy contains more processing power than an
    supercomputer. You don't have to keep buying and re-buying software - it comes as a subscription that you use just as long you want.
    With services like Steam, games "just work" - no more installation problems and driver nightmares. Gene editing to correct
    birth defects is just around the corner. Drones give us amazing aerial photography, and they're so cheap that anyone
    can play. We have new alternatives to currency, experiments from chips to Bitcoin, which may change the future of commerce.

    And on, and on... The security problems on today's PCs are no worse than they were 10 years ago, just different. Cybercrime
    is through the roof? Only because so much more of modern life is online - crime as a whole has certainly not increased; it
    has just moved online along with the rest of our lives.

    The author needs some serious counseling...

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  58. Terrorist attack on autonomous vehicles by dsulli99 · · Score: 2

    A large-scale intentional attack of on-the-road autonomous vehicles causing rapid acceleration to a high rate of speed, veering off the road, crashing into eachother, walls, etc, resulting in mass casualty, inability to access roadways and congestion in medical centers, etc.

  59. Mobile devices by TJHook3r · · Score: 3, Insightful

    High-powered and relatively cheap devices are in the pockets of most people - what they do with the sum of Human knowledge? Spend all day playing Candy Crush and sexting of course!

    1. Re:Mobile devices by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I don't waste my time with that shit, my phone is mainly used to post on Slashdot.

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  60. Dick Choppers by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

    Thus far nobody has instituted penis-based biometric sensors which randomly short out and electrocute or flay your member.
    I assume this is just for the sake of equality, since it could only be used to oppress ~49% of the population.

  61. Re:Every database meets full gov political trackin by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    Counterpoint: We actually live in a golden age of free speech. Even a decade ago the idea that people could make a career out of shitposting on YouTube was hard to imagine, yet here we are. With social media individuals with no corporate or government backing have more ability to reach more people than ever before, and post things that they would never dare to offline.

    The kind of stuff you can find on YouTube and Twitter and Facebook in seconds today would never have been broadcast or widely published 30 years ago.

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  62. Everything. by Quakeulf · · Score: 1

    Everything.

  63. Superbug / Supervirus by Qbertino · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's the biggest threat we know for sure exists, i.e. is already out there.

    Antbiotics in livestock and CISPR are bound to someday breed a global killer that measurably reduces the global population. I'd expect something like this to perhaps cost 50 to 100 million lives before it can be stopped.

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  64. Global. Thermonuclear. War. by waspleg · · Score: 1

    We have thousands of nukes out there. How about that gov't shutdown? Do the nuke herders count as essential staff?

  65. Self driving car terror act by Gunstick · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Some virus or a targeted attack makes self driving cars run through shopping malls or drive off bridges.

    This could even happen if there is a GPS glitch making all maps offset by 100m to the east and the selfdriving software being buggy and assuming the GPS is right and the camera is wrong.

    On one DrWho episode (or was it Torchwood?) there is an automated car system which is tricked into killing it's drivers on purpose.

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  66. Indeed, the IT industry is a disaster by cjonslashdot · · Score: 1

    My own article on this has a more extensive list of what is wrong in IT, and why all the technology is so non-robust and untrustworthy.

  67. "Smart Home" Rebellion by X!0mbarg · · Score: 1

    Your smart locks opening for all the wrong people, and staying locked for you.
    Appliances not working or changing settings to "recommended" ones without asking, ruining your food.
    Environment controls (heat and A/C) reverting to outside defined settings, possibly cooking or freezing people.
    Digital Assistants trying to counsel you, based on input, or even alerting the Police (or other authorities).
    The IoT being hacked on a much wider basis.

    Still, a great case for "Certified Dumb Device" (TM)

  68. Slashdot is slashdotted - apocalyptic result by remoteshell · · Score: 1

    Slashdot is permanently slashdotted, and no longer keeps me informed of the status of the giant bat-like creatures that fly between the power lines in front of my house, each grasping a shiny metal cylinder containing what was once the soul of a COBOL programmer, their leathery wings black as the inky depths of space, from where they originate. Why they fling the cylinders at the chemtrails originating from Canadian aircraft is as enigmatic as the diminutive chauffeur piloting the black Cadillac SUV used by Richard M Stallman on his mysterious assignations with "the lossless ones". These eldrich entities appear with uniforms sporting epaulets and cummerbunds, but it's impossible to see their faces which are wrapped in steaming, writhing "bandages". These facts are IGNORED BY INFOWARS and only reported on Slashdot, and then only by looking at the steagonographic messages hidden in the graphics from the adverts. But I digress. Where did I put my meds?

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  69. Worst thing? by DjangoShagnasty · · Score: 1

    How about the software industry being flooded with a bunch of progressive opinion writers turned software developers who put the same effort into coding as they did to factual content after being told to "Learn to Code"?

  70. IoT major hack by grumpy-cowboy · · Score: 1

    - All Nest thermostasts set and locked to 40C
    - All Phillips light flashing everywhere
    - Like one said, all smart locks opening randomly
    - All connected security cameras broadcasted to everyone
    - Alexa, Google Home, ... playing the latest Celine Dion's hit in loop!!!
    - ...

    And then all thoses IoT devices DDoS attacks on Cloud providers (Goog,e Amazon, Azure, ...)

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  71. Power plant shutdowns by danbuter · · Score: 1

    I fully expect all of our power supply plants to be shut down (or worse), as they have already admitted multiple times that they are extremely vulnerable to computer attacks. Maybe an enemy country will do it. Maybe some insane hackers or religious extremists will do it. Either way, it will result in mass chaos, after which, the State will clamp down even harder on personal freedoms.

  72. Re:basic security becomes an up-sell feature in cl by BlackOverflow · · Score: 2

    That's correct. If you can brute-force guess, phish, or steal usernames you can merrily start locking everyone out.

  73. Hey, there's still porn on the internet by gtvr · · Score: 1

    I mean, that's why it was invented, right?

  74. Re:Every database meets full gov political trackin by PurplePhase · · Score: 1

    What you start to describe is the commercialization of free speech, which cannot be a good thing for us plebes: they've fully incentivized our race to the bottom, to making speech meaningless.

    We also have what Trump says, which while it may be allowed due to "free speech", should not be allowed due to lack of accuracy, incitement, lacking an ounce of morality or dignity, etc.

    Alternatively, places like Groklaw shut themselves down before the U.S. government took action, ie. ACTUAL INFORMATION AND INFORMED DISCUSSION about things currently happening in the world.

    R.I.P. freedom of information and communication.

  75. No Russians on Slashdot by Drethon · · Score: 1

    Well Russians aren't making posts to scare people on Slashdot. Wait... (squints at the article)

  76. The future is bright! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    Ask Slashdot: What Could Go Wrong In Tech That Hasn't Already Gone Wrong?

    Sexbots. Sexbots gone wrong. Sexbots out of control rampaging across the countryside having you whenever they want.

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  77. Re:Every database meets full gov political trackin by houghi · · Score: 1

    Free speech is not related to the number of people you can reach or the number of people who are willing to listen.

    We live in the golden age of old wives tales. It has nothing to do with free speech.

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  78. Internet becomes unreliable by Doctor-R · · Score: 1

    The volume of bits flowing over the Internet goes up and up, but investment in infrastructure goes down, and current infrastructure decays. Latency goes up. Streaming services have pauses, intermittent failures, Interactive websites have flaky responses. Everything that depends on a continuous connection becomes irritating and unreliable. "Always connected" becomes a dream. Major businesses fail.

  79. Vaccines by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

    A vaccine has never caused autism. Yet....

    Note: the proper mod for this comment is "troll"

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  80. Re:basic security becomes an up-sell feature in cl by SethJohnson · · Score: 2

    Itâ(TM)s more about protecting against a disk walking away, getting lost, mishandled, returned to the manufacturer etc.

    Yes, these are the scenarios I am referring to when I say "being compromised by SalesForce's own employees." Encrypted-at-rest means it prevents some extraction of your data that would involve a SalesForce employee as a part of the compromise. Charging for encryption-at-rest is profiting off of preventing the vendor from being a threat vector.

  81. soooo much by buddyglass · · Score: 1
    Off the top of my head:
    • * Cheap, weaponized murder drones deployed by private individuals.
    • * Insurance companies requiring genetic scans and setting rates (or refusing to insure) individuals based on genes.
    • * Terrorist cyberattack on a massive scale resulting in significant loss of life.
    • * Development and release (accidental or otherwise) of supervirus with massive loss of life.
  82. A large-scale cloud provider has not yet failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm waiting for the inevitable fall-out when a large-scale cloud product is shut down due to criminal or financial problems at the parent company.

    What happens to the thousands of school districts that rely on GSuite to get their work done if Google decides to exit that business or declare bankruptcy.

    Not many people thought GM could ever go bankrupt - yet they did.

  83. Using cellphones for almost everything by DavidHumus · · Score: 1

    = single point of failure.

  84. Re:basic security becomes an up-sell feature in cl by Auction_God · · Score: 2

    It makes some sense for Salesforce to charge extra - because their platform is on the Oracle database. And the Oracle version that supports encryption at rest is more expensive - so they are passing along the extra cost to their customers. Don't blame Salesforce - blame Oracle !

  85. Re:basic security becomes an up-sell feature in cl by SethJohnson · · Score: 1

    I hear you.

    s/SalesForce/Oracle/g

    No less disdain for SalesForce, though.

  86. In a word: margin by vtTom · · Score: 1

    Rather that think about malicious intent, I prefer to interpret this question as: Despite our best efforts, what can still go wrong?

    In that respect, I think the answer it "plenty".

    The reason is that as we gain better-and-better understanding of how stuff works, we design in less-and-less safety margin. Eventually, someone's design point will cut it too close, something bad happens as a result, we learn about some previously unknown phenomenon, adapt our models, improve out safety margins, and move on.

  87. Re:Every database meets full gov political trackin by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Re "golden age of free speech"
    Where social media report users to governments?
    Movie reviews get banned?
    Governments are considering more blasphemy laws?
    Shadow bans and the tracking of users publication and speech?
    Free speech, the freedom to publish is not a "dare" its a right.

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  88. "Oh, wait..." by David+Gould · · Score: 1

    I was expecting this thread to be a whole bunch of descriptions of things exactly as they are, followed by "Oh, wait...".

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  89. Re:Every database meets full gov political trackin by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Thats really the different between social media been just a utility. Passing on each uses comments.
    The user is the person to made the comment.
    Social media becomes a publisher of only users "comments" the social media brand approves of.
    Social media becomes the publisher of all approved comments.

    Social media is not for "free". Thats what all the tracking and ads are for :)
    "Free" does not pay for the workers who are needed to approve comments and make profits :)

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  90. Re:Every database meets full gov political trackin by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    What's really problematic is triggered snowflakes trying to silence everyone they disagree with, e.g. by modding them troll.

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  91. Close the patent office?? by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

    Remember when they wanted to close the USPTO because "everything that could be invented, already had been"?

    That was in 1899.

    Now we're here wondering what possible mischief could possibly be invented, that hasn't already been invented?

    We are only just getting started!

  92. stop lights by mcswell · · Score: 1

    All the stop lights in NYC turn green (in all four directions) at the same time. Predicted in the early 1960s by Irwin Lewis, "The Day They Invaded New York" (published as short story, later published as book in 1964), along with the counterfeiting of over-sized subway tokens (blocking turnstyles--but now we have electronic ways to do that).

  93. genius burger, with a side of batshit by epine · · Score: 1

    I wonder how much more miserable technology would be making our lives without the precedent of things like the GPL.

    And I wonder how much better Stallman's efforts would have turned out if he hadn't insisted on his ludicrously stringent and idiosyncratic redefinition of the word "freedom", as if there could only be one kind, and it was his way or the highway.

    Even with Stallman, the CPU and BIOS and much of the rest of the hardware remains a malware mosh pit (just how many state actors do you have on your machine?)

    He wasn't ever going to win his battle to establish the one true ecosystem of copyleft all the way down, but still he found it necessary to characterize the BSD licence as "non-free".

  94. dark matter could collapse by epine · · Score: 1

    What could actually go wrong that hasn't yet is that all these named horror shows could actually lead to the collapse of civilization, instead of eternal, long-winded speculation.

    It's almost like we have some kind of guardian-angel dark matter that keeps the world turning despite our worst efforts.

    Shame if someday something happened to our guardian-angel dark matter.

    1. Re:dark matter could collapse by Lost+Race · · Score: 1

      The angel's name is Survival Bias. She has rescued me personally from certain death many times. Those she neglects to save are not represented here.

  95. Easy answer by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Everything else.

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  96. Decisions too complex for us to understand by nmnilsson · · Score: 1

    I think machine learning and expert systems are going to take over much of the decision-making that is today done by humans.
    1. They'll be better than humans, statistically. We already see this in e.g. cancer diagnosis.
    2. They'll be cheaper than humans.
    Expert systems will control or play a major role in healthcare, insurance, employment, tax, social benefits, courts..

    The problem is, already today algorithms created by ML are too complex to follow. We can only test and simulate to ensure they're at least more reliable than humans - in the end we'll just have to accept they're almost always right.
    That's a bloody scary thing when your doctor says "Well, the computer says you need surgery so we'll just have to let it do that", but the reasons are too complicated for both your doctor and you to understand.

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  97. I dunno by jf_moreira · · Score: 1

    I think it's a matter of choosing what technology you will allow to enter your life. I usually wait for it to mature and never adopt anything in the early stages. I'd never have a Voice assistant in my home for such reasons shown in the article. And probably never will. I also cancelled my Facebook, instagram, Twitter and LinkedIn 3 years and 9 months ago and proudly wait for every anniversary. I really don't miss any functionality off them. Choose what tech you will grant access to your life before buying or participating.