You made a huge mistake throughout your rant. You seem to think that most gamers (adults or kids) care about how THEY look playing a game. Most of us (I'm an adult), don't care if the game has cartoon graphics or the system didn't cost $400 dollars. Most of us aren't so shallow that we would dismiss a piece of hardware or a great game because of aesthetics. These things do not have any bearing on how fun a game is.
I know I'm not alone in skipping Wind Waker. I don't care how great of a game it is- I don't like how it looks, and I'm not going to force myself to play it
Don't worry. They don't need your purchase. There are plenty of us that are pretty damn happy with Nintendo, and also don't base our game purchases off of looks alone (of course wind waker looks gorgeous, so it wouldn't of even been an issue anyways). You might want to try PS2 or Xbox if you're looking for game franchises that generally don't change much. You'll be much happier, and we'll have one less troll on/. whining about Nintendo.
You make a good point. I haven't even picked up C#. I should probably try it out before passing judgement. I've spent so many years with c/c++, I guess I just don't see the advantage to having everything so hidden from me. I enjoy java, but just for making fun little applets. I never considered anything serious with it, although I know it's more than possible. But you're right, I should try it before dismissing it.
I never said I ONLY used c. I just wouldn't choose a c/c++ clone over c or c++. It really doesn't bother me that you can code a huge system in C# or Java faster than I can in c. The finished product is what matters. Use the right tool for the job. I'll take rock solid code over "productivity" any day.
I couldn't care less if XBox Live type gaming is the future, as long as developers don't forget about those of us who don't care to interact with the leet kiddies that plague online gaming currently.
I enjoy "social" games don't get me wrong. I play quake 3 and FFXI every day on my PC, but everything that is unique about console gaming is set to be lost. It will be very sad if that happens. Especially for those of us who grew up in the NES, SNES, Sega Genesis eras, and can still appreciate those types of games.
Now utilizing the bouncing tit engine 2.0 and ass shaders 3.0. Don't forget kids, this version has sweat, and each bead of sweat has it's own beads of sweat made up of 5,000 polygons. All this while maintaining 10,000 fps.
You're right. If a FPS is available on the PC I would get it there, otherwise I would get it for the revolution. There aren't really any other options if you want fast precise controls.
You mean square put in the extra effort to add all those features you are complaining about. That's what you meant to say right? And honestly who cares about the xbox360 version. Anyone who had any interest in playing FFXI already plays it on the PC or PS2. It's like people think because they ported the game to consoles they should change it to meet all the console fanboy needs.
See, I look at the people catering to numbers and horsepower as the casual gamers. All they need to hear is that they have the most "powerful" video game system and that their "mature" games will exist on it and they're sold.
The company who is conentrating on pushing gaming forward, would be more geared towards the hardcore gamers like myself. That is the main reason I'll be buying a revolution and not the other systems. The fact that they are trying to make it accessible to a wider audience is only a bonus.
I don't know how you only get modded 2, while some asshole above got modded +4 Insightful for suckling on MS's peepee because of HD. Microsoft bet on mindless fanboys to support and hype their new console even though they don't have the games to back it up. Sadly they bet right.
I love games so much I don't think big money would really mean that much to me. I'd take a pay cut from my current software dev position in a heart beat. It just seems like a lot of big shops have forgotten about making great games, and instead focus on what will make them the most money. Sadly they don't go hand in hand.
The XBox 360 and power supply were designed poorly. Quit acting like it's some cutting edge piece of hardware that shouldn't be held to the same standards as any other game console that came before it or will come after it. I hate these ridiculous law suits just like most other rational people, but at least I'm against it for the right reasons.
Or could it be that the majority of people out there that bought the 360 don't post on/.? Regardless of the fact that the polls on/. should not be used for any real statistical analysis, it seems to back up the comments that the majority of/. users have made regarding the system in the months leading up to release day.
We're not "lying moron sheep" simply because you somehow think most of those 400,000 people (not a lot of people considering as of July '05 there are 295,734,134 people living in the US) that bought an xbox 360 actually participate in/. polls.
Thanks for the laugh though. Please mod parent +funny.
Also the fact that games are becoming cookie-cutter has no bearing on this conversation. If you think that gaming is getting stale now, remember not THAT much has changed since the original Doom.
It has a lot of bearing on the conversation. The game industry is diving right in the crapper because the suits play it safe by releasing cookie cutter games year after year. How much longer do you think people are going to put up with Madden 200X, GTA random city, and all the other regurgitated crap that keeps getting shoved in our faces? I guess with enough people like you the industry might sustain itself for a few more years. I mean you can't help it, you don't know any better. A few third party devs, Nintendo, and indie devs are really the only ones pushing the industry in a positive direction.
No, i'll wait for the Revolution. New consoles that put almost all of their focus on graphics don't impress me. I mean, how many xboxen cores or ps3 cells do you really need to make changes to the numbers in the title of your game and update textures, lighting, and add a few polys to the character models?
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Congratulations! You're an idiot. You are part of the disease that's been infecting gaming for the past 10 years or so. Your typical graphics fanboy: "Oh look at all the pretty colors and shiny sparkly things!"...what are you a caveman? I personally am more interested in the actual game aspect of games. But it seems i'm in the minority these days. Such a pity.
It's actually you who is denying the blindingly obvious...that video games are getting singled out over movies and books which are just as violent and explicit. I still fail to see how you can put them in the same category as tobacco and alcohol and not any other form of entertainment media. You missed the whole point of this thread.
If I have to read one more post where someone seriously tries to compare video games to alcohol and tobacco I think I will scream...and possibly throw myself out of my office window.
Ok, so we're seeing an article like this about once a week now. It's getting a little redundant.
Most of the points are agreeable don't get me wrong, but do they really think anything is going to change? These developers are going to play it safe until they are out of business and I can't wait for that day to come.
It basically boils down to lazy an unimaginative game designers and the scumbag publishers that reinforce the behavior because the shit sells. I'm not going to point fingers at any one developer or any one console because almost all of them are guilty.
One a separate note, I like seeing scantily clad women and also enjoy playing as a muscular guy. I don't see the problem with this. If that type of person fits the role of the game then whats wrong with that?
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You made a huge mistake throughout your rant. You seem to think that most gamers (adults or kids) care about how THEY look playing a game. Most of us (I'm an adult), don't care if the game has cartoon graphics or the system didn't cost $400 dollars. Most of us aren't so shallow that we would dismiss a piece of hardware or a great game because of aesthetics. These things do not have any bearing on how fun a game is.
Ikaruga for the gamecube. Best vertical shooter i've played in probably 10 years.
Don't worry. They don't need your purchase. There are plenty of us that are pretty damn happy with Nintendo, and also don't base our game purchases off of looks alone (of course wind waker looks gorgeous, so it wouldn't of even been an issue anyways). You might want to try PS2 or Xbox if you're looking for game franchises that generally don't change much. You'll be much happier, and we'll have one less troll on
You make a good point. I haven't even picked up C#. I should probably try it out before passing judgement. I've spent so many years with c/c++, I guess I just don't see the advantage to having everything so hidden from me. I enjoy java, but just for making fun little applets. I never considered anything serious with it, although I know it's more than possible. But you're right, I should try it before dismissing it.
I never said I ONLY used c. I just wouldn't choose a c/c++ clone over c or c++. It really doesn't bother me that you can code a huge system in C# or Java faster than I can in c. The finished product is what matters. Use the right tool for the job. I'll take rock solid code over "productivity" any day.
/em goes back to coding in c. Come get me when someone comes out with more than a "Fischer Price my first programming language".
I couldn't care less if XBox Live type gaming is the future, as long as developers don't forget about those of us who don't care to interact with the leet kiddies that plague online gaming currently.
I enjoy "social" games don't get me wrong. I play quake 3 and FFXI every day on my PC, but everything that is unique about console gaming is set to be lost. It will be very sad if that happens. Especially for those of us who grew up in the NES, SNES, Sega Genesis eras, and can still appreciate those types of games.
Now utilizing the bouncing tit engine 2.0 and ass shaders 3.0. Don't forget kids, this version has sweat, and each bead of sweat has it's own beads of sweat made up of 5,000 polygons. All this while maintaining 10,000 fps.
You're right. If a FPS is available on the PC I would get it there, otherwise I would get it for the revolution. There aren't really any other options if you want fast precise controls.
You mean square put in the extra effort to add all those features you are complaining about. That's what you meant to say right? And honestly who cares about the xbox360 version. Anyone who had any interest in playing FFXI already plays it on the PC or PS2. It's like people think because they ported the game to consoles they should change it to meet all the console fanboy needs.
Are you sure you can use the word "intelligent" when talking about anything to do with .NET?
See, I look at the people catering to numbers and horsepower as the casual gamers. All they need to hear is that they have the most "powerful" video game system and that their "mature" games will exist on it and they're sold.
The company who is conentrating on pushing gaming forward, would be more geared towards the hardcore gamers like myself. That is the main reason I'll be buying a revolution and not the other systems. The fact that they are trying to make it accessible to a wider audience is only a bonus.
I don't know how you only get modded 2, while some asshole above got modded +4 Insightful for suckling on MS's peepee because of HD. Microsoft bet on mindless fanboys to support and hype their new console even though they don't have the games to back it up. Sadly they bet right.
I love games so much I don't think big money would really mean that much to me. I'd take a pay cut from my current software dev position in a heart beat. It just seems like a lot of big shops have forgotten about making great games, and instead focus on what will make them the most money. Sadly they don't go hand in hand.
What are you smoking? I really want some.
The XBox 360 and power supply were designed poorly. Quit acting like it's some cutting edge piece of hardware that shouldn't be held to the same standards as any other game console that came before it or will come after it. I hate these ridiculous law suits just like most other rational people, but at least I'm against it for the right reasons.
Or could it be that the majority of people out there that bought the 360 don't post on /.? Regardless of the fact that the polls on /. should not be used for any real statistical analysis, it seems to back up the comments that the majority of /. users have made regarding the system in the months leading up to release day.
/. polls.
We're not "lying moron sheep" simply because you somehow think most of those 400,000 people (not a lot of people considering as of July '05 there are 295,734,134 people living in the US) that bought an xbox 360 actually participate in
Thanks for the laugh though. Please mod parent +funny.
It has a lot of bearing on the conversation. The game industry is diving right in the crapper because the suits play it safe by releasing cookie cutter games year after year. How much longer do you think people are going to put up with Madden 200X, GTA random city, and all the other regurgitated crap that keeps getting shoved in our faces? I guess with enough people like you the industry might sustain itself for a few more years. I mean you can't help it, you don't know any better. A few third party devs, Nintendo, and indie devs are really the only ones pushing the industry in a positive direction.
No, i'll wait for the Revolution. New consoles that put almost all of their focus on graphics don't impress me. I mean, how many xboxen cores or ps3 cells do you really need to make changes to the numbers in the title of your game and update textures, lighting, and add a few polys to the character models?
Congratulations! You're an idiot. You are part of the disease that's been infecting gaming for the past 10 years or so. Your typical graphics fanboy: "Oh look at all the pretty colors and shiny sparkly things!"...what are you a caveman? I personally am more interested in the actual game aspect of games. But it seems i'm in the minority these days. Such a pity.
As long as there are zombies, automatic weapons, and former sports/wrestling stars filling lead roles.
I couldn't agree more. the rootkit was the final straw for me with Sony. I will never purchase another product from them...ever.
It's actually you who is denying the blindingly obvious...that video games are getting singled out over movies and books which are just as violent and explicit. I still fail to see how you can put them in the same category as tobacco and alcohol and not any other form of entertainment media. You missed the whole point of this thread.
If I have to read one more post where someone seriously tries to compare video games to alcohol and tobacco I think I will scream...and possibly throw myself out of my office window.
Ok, so we're seeing an article like this about once a week now. It's getting a little redundant.
Most of the points are agreeable don't get me wrong, but do they really think anything is going to change? These developers are going to play it safe until they are out of business and I can't wait for that day to come.
It basically boils down to lazy an unimaginative game designers and the scumbag publishers that reinforce the behavior because the shit sells. I'm not going to point fingers at any one developer or any one console because almost all of them are guilty.
One a separate note, I like seeing scantily clad women and also enjoy playing as a muscular guy. I don't see the problem with this. If that type of person fits the role of the game then whats wrong with that?