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The camera add-on is here: JBM Camera 100

Total cost would be about $490.

The camera add-on is here: JBM Camera 100

Total cost would be about $490.

I can load that page but the links don't seem to work, and the price is rather unbelievable. What's going on here?

you'll kill the drive pretty fast

Better hurry up and tell apple, creative, and archos. They've got a lot of money riding on this.

If 40gb is required and obviously 1.5gb is pitifully small then Archos sell a camera module for their Jukebox Multimedia products.

The AV140 comes with a 40gb drive.

Rónán

Jukebox Multimedia 20 Handheld Entertainment Center USB 1.1 20GB Hard Disk+MP3+MPEG 4
1.3 Megapixel Camera, MP4 Video Camcorder

Specs

Jukebox Multimedia 20 Handheld Entertainment Center USB 1.1 20GB Hard Disk+MP3+MPEG 4
1.3 Megapixel Camera, MP4 Video Camcorder

Specs

Jukebox Multimedia 20 Handheld Entertainment Center USB 1.1 20GB Hard Disk+MP3+MPEG 4
1.3 Megapixel Camera, MP4 Video Camcorder

Specs

Technically, the 15GB or so of music on my Jukebox is the backup, i still have all the cds, it'd just be a pain in the ass to re-rip all of them.

"If only they would make it record radio, too ..."

See archos for devices that record raido directly into mp3. They have a hard drive and a smart media device that does that i beleive. Plus they keep the last 30 seconds of audio in memory in case the song you want has already started you can still get the begining.

-Foxxz

I already have a DSB-R100, and tried using a Win2K installation for this. I gave up and uninstalled all the related software, because the driver made my machine too flaky. I guess it's time to try again on a Linux machine.

Here's some dedicated hardware that could be used for a radio TiVo.

• RPR
• Neuros
• Archos FM recorder

... for all your pocket-sized porn needs. Seriously, what am I going to do, carry a $500 device around to show pictures of my kids on??

Apple is rumored to have something like this in the pipeline too, and Archos released a similar thing a few months ago.

Are people so hard-up for porn that they can't sit at their computer and watch it like a respectable person?

I've got a standard Jukebox 20, and the wife has the FM radio version, both are really reliable little units and there's even open-source firmware available for it called Rockbox.

Well worth a look, and IMHO superior to the iPod - certainly the ones I've played with anyway.

I've got a standard Jukebox 20, and the wife has the FM radio version, both are really reliable little units and there's even open-source firmware available for it called Rockbox.

Well worth a look, and IMHO superior to the iPod - certainly the ones I've played with anyway.

Get a Nomad Zen instead. It has both FireWire and USB interfaces, slightly longer battery life, and it supports recording. Or consider the new Archos players and recorders: USB2, FireWire, and lots of other features.

I just can't justify the price. Sure it's sleek and sexy, sounds great, has multiple interfaces for data transfer, but it's priced at least a couple hundred $$ above the competition.

For $229 (BestBuy $279 + $50 mail in rebate) I'm very satisfied with my Archos Jukebox Recorder 20.

It has 20GB HD, USB 1.1,2.0, and comes bundled with Music match Jukebox.

My wife uses it mostly, so it's only seen Windoze, but I'm sure it wouldn't take long for me to get it working with Linux. If someone hasn't done it already.

Close ... Archos Multimedia Jukebox 20
I have one, and it works great. Small screen though, so it might not be what you are looking for...

The Archos Jukebox Recorder 20's spec sheet says that it supports

"MP3 (selectable 30 to 160 Kbps) Real-Time Encoding"

I'm not too sure what you think is good quality but I don't think 160 is terrible

The Archos Jukebox Recorder 20's spec sheet says that it supports

"MP3 (selectable 30 to 160 Kbps) Real-Time Encoding"

I'm not too sure what you think is good quality but I don't think 160 is terrible

What I want is an FM radio with MP3 recorder and programmable recording

Archos (makers of the Multimedia Jukebox) make pretty much exactly what you are after (not sure about the programmable recording).

http://www.archos.com/lang=en//products/prw_500326 .html

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MP4 Video Player (DivX compatible*) JPEG/BMP Viewer MP3 Player & Recorder

US
UK

MP4 Video Player (DivX compatible*) JPEG/BMP Viewer MP3 Player & Recorder

there's always the archos, which has rockbox going for it (open source replacement firmware). being able to write code for my mp3 player gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside...

Just because you didn't order the USB 2.0 cable when you bought it doesn't make it a valid step 5 complaint. You should have put it before step 1.

Very valid, for me, nero burns a cd faster than usb 1. The latest on the usb 2.0 cable is there is a kit out there that costs $50.

Come on I forked out $440 already on my ajmm and was under the impression I was going to get the usb 2.0 cable bundled in.

What do you mean by step 4? You set the resolution when you make the file. How can you foul this up? Do you mean filesize?

I forget to go to Filters... Add -> Resize -> 352*(I forget what to put here so I have to look it up on the archos site)

My bad - I know - but it keeps on happening - thus a problem for me

Cause I sure wanna pay $420 on this and then fork over another $50 for the USB2.0 adapter.

The picture quality is MOST DEFINITELY not full DVD quality. See this: Archos's website. It's limited to "MPEG4 video compatible with DivX? (CIF format - 352x288 pixels, 25 frames/sec.)".

Thanks, but no thanks. The reviewer mentions some pixelization - I think I know why! :-)

Rob

For companies to produce portable Vorbis players, they need to be made aware that there is a market for them. Every day, I hear the same thing from Vorbis listeners; 'I'm not buying a hardware portable music player unless it supports Ogg Vorbis.' It's nice to hear, but we can't do anything about it (we're not a hardware company). So, this page is here to let you send that message to people who can. Remember, be polite!

The Companies:

Frontier Labs - URL - has told a lot of people that they're considering implementing Vorbis support for the NEX II machine. Here's their information:

Frontier Labs
Unit 2206 - 8, Cyberincubator, Kodak House II
No. 321 Java Road
North Point, Hong Kong
Telephone: 852.2527.3322
Fax: 852.2528.5277
E-mail: techsupport@frontierlabs.com

iRiver - URL - has said they are planning to support Ogg Vorbis in the future via firmware upgrade, but the schedule is not yet finalized. Here's their information:

iRiver America
1716 Ringwood Avenue
San Jose, CA 95131
Telephone: 1-408-452-7940
Fax: 1-408-452-9944
E-mail: contact@iriveramerica.com

UPDATE: Forwarded E-mail from iRiver America

The engineers have Ogg Vorbis under consideration to support. However, at this time, there is no decision whether it will be supported in the future or not.

Regards,

Erica L. Briggs
Customer Service Representative
iRiver America, Inc.
Direct: 408.452.7940

Wouldn't you like to see Vorbis on the super-sexy iPod? We would, too. Here's some contact information for Apple Computer (URL):

Apple
1 Infinite Loop
Cupertino, CA 95014
Telephone: 408-996-1010

UPDATE: Don't forget to drop a note to Apple about the iPod at http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipod.html!

Other companies producing audio hardware:

Archos Technology Inc. - URL
3-A Goodyear
Irvine, CA 92618
Telephone: (949) 609-1400
Fax: (949) 609-1414

ReQuest Multimedia - URL
435 2nd Ave.
Troy, NY 12182
E-mail: bizdev@request.com

Evolution Technologies - URL
118 Kitty Hawk Drive
Morrisville, NC 27560
Telephone: 919-544-3777 / toll-free: 866-848-8070
E-mail: info@nowevolution.com

UPDATE: Note from Evolution Technologies

Evolution Technologies, Inc. is committed to support our consumers music appetite. We will support the formats that are consistent with both their desires and good business practices. While we have not ruled out supporting "open source" formats, we must first evaluate the acceptance levels with the buying public so that our organization can justify the expense of developing a new compatible CODEC. When the demand is sufficient, we will support the technology.

Sonic Blue - URL
2841 Mission College Blvd.
Santa Clara, CA 95054-1838
Telephone: (408) 588-8000

I-Jam Multimedia LLC - URL
1092 National Parkway
Schaumburg, IL 60173
Telephone: 847-839-1233
Fax: 847-839-1277
E-mail: ehamnett@geltzerpr.com

Alaris, Inc. - URL
44061 Nobel Drive
Fremont, CA 94538

Creative Labs, Inc. - URL
Developer Relations
1901 McCarthy Blvd.
Milpitas, California 95035
Telephone: 408-546-6425
Fax: 408-432-6717
E-mail: devmusic@creativelabs.com

Daisy Technology, LLC - URL
111 N. Market Street, Suite 624
San Jose, CA 95113
Telephone: 408-286-7697
Fax: 408-351-3330
E-mail: info@daisytech-usa.com

Procell Media - URL
69 Wrexham Road
Whitchurch, Shropshire
SY13 1HT
UNITED KINGDOM
Telephone: +44 (0)1948 665048
Fax: +44 (0)1948 667099

G-NET Canada Headquarters - URL
11 Sinclair Court
Cambridge, Ontario
N1T 1K2 CANADA
Telephone: 519-623-4901
Fax: 519-623-3229

I've had the archos jukebox (6000) for about 8 months now. and i must say that thought it is not without flaw, it has fulfilled all my expectations.

first of all... 6 gigabytes... of course you can swap out the included hdd and replace it (but not without voiding the warranty).

second of all.. it's a simple USB hard drive. so it'll work on just about any OS you can toss at it. newer models have usb 2.0, and recording features. but I have been very happy with mine. and since it's a simple usb hard drive, you can store anything u want on it, not just audio. keep a copy of your favorite linux distro on it. backup yer system. whatever

the batteries tend to last me about 5 hours on the average, and i've never had to change them.

of course if u wanna go apeshit there's this thing.

Looks like Archos has actually revamped this product, because mine doesn't look like the one displayed at the above link. Has anyone used one of these particular models before and can tell me if they've improved on the problem bits that I've mentioned?

If they have, I'd surely recommend this model to anyone who is in the market for an MP3 player.

Their 20 gig recorder is USB 2.0 compatible, lets you record "of up to 20,000 minutes of top quality music in MP3 format" and is roughly the size of the ipod.

"You can record directly from any audio source, including your stereo set, radio, or pre-amplified microphone via the stereo, line-in jack. It will also work as a high-quality voice recorder."

I've seen them around for $250 and alot less for the smaller giggage.

Their 20 gig recorder is USB 2.0 compatible, lets you record "of up to 20,000 minutes of top quality music in MP3 format" and is roughly the size of the ipod.

"You can record directly from any audio source, including your stereo set, radio, or pre-amplified microphone via the stereo, line-in jack. It will also work as a high-quality voice recorder."

I've seen them around for $250 and alot less for the smaller giggage.

Firewire Zip drive

Mac users like their computers to be furniture, not machines. They like quiet.

(and yes, I am a partial mac user)

As far as the keyboard and mouse...well, let's not push it!

Does anyone know of a USB hard drive that can interface with the Zaurus?

It would be REALLY cool if I could put my DivX movies on my Archos 20 gig USB drive and connect it to the Zaurus, via USB, which would act as the DivX player. I could have a collection of 20 movies or so to watch on the airplane without having to lug around a whole laptop!

If this hasn't already been done I can see a valid business plan for building one, I just wish I had the time/funding to play around with the idea myself!

here

I put my 5 gigs of music on it overnight when I first bought it and spend a couple of minutes each week putting on my new music. All of that with 2 sets of rechargable 6 hour life batteris for $300. I will admit that the UI is not as pretty as on the iPod but for the price and size difference, I don't care.

If you want to take a look at one go to archos.com

yeah the ipod is a costly little toy.

have you looked at the archos mp3 player?

twice the space, plus recording, plus $100 less plus runs on AA batteries, plus linux/windows/mac software.

thank you.

The Archos Jukebox has been doing this longer than any I've found. I've been eyeing these wonderful toys from their initial press releases and I must say they are what iPod aimed to be (and succeded). If only they had a harder marketing push...

http://www.archos.com

Try to keep up -- the latest generation of the Archos supports USB 2.0. I'd be inclined to get it myself if they'd design the AA battery compartments properly.

Their website claims they offer a 20GB MP3 recorder.

One advantage of Archos Jukebox players is that they double as hard drives. In practical terms, what this means is that you transfer .mp3 and other files back and forth between the Archos Jukebox and other PCs. As far as I know, the Nomad units can only receive files from PCs - I guess as an "anti-piracy" measure.

Archos model 500277
Jukebox MP3 Recorder 20 - 20GB HD (USB 2.0)

PriceWatch lists it for $315

Jukebox MP3 Recorders / USB Hard Drives

Can both record and playback MP3s

USB 2.0 is standard on newer PCs

Already here.

www.archos.com

Archos sells a 6 GB portable MP3 recorder.

why is everyone suprised that a mp3 player has voice control ?, cellphones here in the UK have had that technology for ages, but now they are moving just beyond "call pizza" to built in mp3 players and radios , at current speed of development its gonna be this year they merge these technologies and we end up with a voice controlled mp3 player with pda and cellphone with built in cameras ! yay, the end is near for all these fragmented devices and we will soon have that device we all want that fits in our pockets and does everything in one single device :)

May be the announced Archos Jukebox Multimedia Player will be the first such device.

If journalists are the target audience, they'd be better off with something like the Archos Recorder (or the 20GB version coming soon. Far greater storage and useful for recording notes or radio sound bites.

If journalists are the target audience, they'd be better off with something like the Archos Recorder (or the 20GB version coming soon. Far greater storage and useful for recording notes or radio sound bites.

Try the Archos jukebox recorder It has a 6 Gig drive in it, batteries last for ~10 hours, records directly to mp3. Has USB and works with linux. What more could you want? There's also a 20 Gig version. Url here

USB 2.0's optimal transfer rate = 480Mbits/s = 60MB/s (no harddrive can even read/write at this speed yet; the average harddrive is capable of around 20 MB/s sustained so I'll use that figure)

20,000MB / 20MB/s / 60s/min = 17 minutes.

So, you can fill ~3 times the space in less than a quarter of the time with USB 2.0 (limited by the drivespeed).

Are we clear now?