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As an anonymous coward, this. He spun off all the real estate into a REIT (Seritage Growth Properties), then collects the rent from the stores.

Oh, and he got his hand slapped for it, too. Bloomberg. Sears Holding the company has very little of value left inside of it.

No they fucking aren't. I can get a ride with uber at half the price or less.

Those rides are subsidized by venture capital money. They're not profitable in how they are operating. They've lost billions of dollars. Enjoy your half-price rides while you can. Once they succeed at starving off the taxi industry, they expect to hold a monopoly over the transportation service market, at which point you will pay way higher fees. Somebody will have to compensate these venture capitalists for all the billions they've lost so far. Sounds like you are their intended target.

Too late, he's already bored: https://www.bloomberg.com/news...

Facts. The natural enemy of apple fanbois everywhere.

if robotic replacement of human workers becomes widespread, the income tax formerly paid by the human should be levied against the robotic worker

The Socialist Party candidate for the President of France has acutally proposed to do this. Fortunately for the French, he is way behind in the polls and has a near zero chance of winning.

"“Picking your opponent” is an age-old political manipulation tactic. "

That is not accurate according to what I am reading
Basically, Dudna et. al did all of their work on Prokaryotes, while Zhiang when straight to Eukaroyotes. They both had it working, but on different cell types. And Dudna wanted her patents to be applied across all cell types though she had not done so.

Call me alarmist if you will

Then you're part of the problem. Denialism flourishes because of folks like you that make doom-and-gloom predictions that don't come true.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view...

we are only able to feed the 7+ billion people on the planet by spending lots of energy on producing artificial fetilizers

You talk about lifestyle changes being required to prevent climate change, but you throw this in there? Are you trying to claim that we need to grow stuff organically instead? What are you trying to claim?

Ruth Porat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

"Google to Pay New CFO Ruth Porat More Than $70 Million": https://www.bloomberg.com/news...

She's worth 10's if not 100's of millions of dollars and yet she's still working. This is just a salary bargaining ploy nonsense. That's why the article doesn't make any sense.

Actually, the person who handed over the phone probably did not have standing to claim 4th amendment rights.

The phone is not his.

It belongs to NASA.

For reference, see this about Microsoft:

“Standing has been a barrier in cases that seek to vindicate people’s privacy rights,” said Jennifer Granick, a Stanford Law School professor. “It’s a serious issue in conducting constitutional litigation, and this case is no different.”

Four court decisions listed by U.S. District Judge James Robart in Seattle all reached the same conclusion -- Fourth Amendment protections can only be cited by individuals, and not vicariously by third parties. The most recent was a 2014 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that the family of a driver who was shot and killed by police after a high-speed chase couldn’t invoke that right on his behalf related to a lawsuit over his death.

Higher salaries for some subset of people can be beneficial. For example, increasing the minimum wage can boost consumption and stimulate the economy. In many ways it's just a transfer of wealth from the richer to the poorer. Fortunately, the poorer are better consumers and they stimulate the economy creating need for more stuff and maybe more jobs.

This is actually not true.

Give some research that backs up your claims. https://www.bloomberg.com/news... http://www.epi.org/publication... https://www.washingtonpost.com...

You're right that minimum wage raises are a transfer of money (and, in fact, buying power) from the richer to the poorer; the problem is the "richer" here make $12/hr, and the "poorer" just got bumped from $7.25/hr to $8.25/hr. Minimum wage isn't incorrect; but it doesn't magically create jobs. It concentrates income into fewer hands.

I never said how much I would increase the minimum wage. At a minimum, one needs to increase it to a living wage, so tax payers stop subsidizing the companies that exploit these workers. Since Bernie's done the research, let's start with $15/hr and set increases based on inflation.

Shorter version shot from the hip [slashdot.org].

https://9to5mac.com/2016/06/13...

In the short term, the problem's actually the same: it's cheaper to get humans to do a lot of things, and humans employ technical means to reduce their labor. For the foreseeable future, elimination of human labor is an amusing fantasy taken too seriously by delusional people.

So it will happen, but we just shouldn't worry about it. There should be a term for that, maybe AI denier.

Well it's been fun, but I probably will not read another response. Even if I don't accept your novelty or follow your logic, I do admire your spunk. Keep at it.

Musk did not say or imply that unionization was morally outrageous

Had he been in favor of unions, Tesla factories (and Musk's other operations) would've been unionized long ago. Discussing, what exactly his opinion is on the subject is irrelevant — the opinion is negative.

Would the Left now fall out of love with Elon Musk and Tesla? Would they go back to burning oil in sympathy for that well-unionized industry? Or will they just downmod this post to make it hurt less?

They also used the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force to prevent a strike. And they also have their own team that flies in at the first sign of an attempt at unionization with propaganda and threats of firing.

Still feeding the fake news and alternative facts I see. Sorry, you can't rewrite history. If you voted for President Pedophile, you voted for someone who lies and has no problem breaking the law, and if you did it because he made up a claim that his opponent broke the law all the worse. Kelly-Anne Conway just broke the law on Fox News last night by advertising for Ivanka Trump, but I don't see Republicans punishing her either. Most federal employees in the past get suspended or fired for what she did last night, but President Pedophile and Republican controlled congress are the only ones with the ability to punish her, and I don't see either doing anything. President Pedophile actually defended her after she broke the law.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ma...

https://www.bloomberg.com/poli...

The Clinton e-mails are one of the biggest lies Republicans, Breitbart, and Fox News told. Nothing was really deleted. Hillary first sent one copy of the hard drives to a law office and had them sort between all the personal stuff and professional stuff. They "deleted" the personal stuff off that copy of the data before handing it to the FBI. The FBI said that wasn't sufficient and issued a subpoena for all the data including the personal data. Then she handed a copy of all the data including the personal stuff. Once requested, the FBI got everything. The quote from the FBI was about "deleted" e-mails was that there were about a dozen business e-mails that hadn't been included with the first set of business e-mails handed over. There wasn't any crime, because nothing was actually deleted. The FBI also decided that the missing ("deleted") e-mails was not criminal because there was no evidence that it was done intentionally and there was nothing incriminating in them (incorrectly sorting 0.1% of the e-mails was probably accidental). It's not like we are talking about paper copies where there is only one copy of the papers and she shredded them. There were multiple copies of the data on different hard drives and backups.

Rice had her aides use personal e-mail accounts to send e-mails for her. Powell used a private e-mail account (believed to be AOL) for his secretary of state e-mails. Republicans only had a problem with Clinton doing the same thing Republicans had done. They also leave out that she requested a secure e-mail option from the NSA twice and was rejected; the NSA told her to send e-mails from her office computer when she spent most of her job traveling. She was just trying to do her job.

http://www.nytimes.com/interac...

http://www.politifact.com/trut...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/...

http://www.businessinsider.com...

http://thehill.com/policy/nati...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02...

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/...

Like this one for example...

People should be more careful who they vote for

Oh, shit. Sorry, I didn't see your response until just now. Yes, I forgot about the subs. Obviously, they have some nukes, too. And yes, you are correct, that the chain of command is pretty short. But as far as the people involved in the physical launching of the nukes, they are all actual military personnel. They weren't (and won't be) people appointed by Trump, they will be people who come up through the ranks, just like any other soldier.

I'm former Army, and I've talked to many of my friends about this, who are former military of various branches, and we all seemed to be on the same page about this. We find Trump horrifying, but the one thing none of us are/were worried about was him having control over the nukes, because we all thought there's no way the military would go along with it. He might order it, but surely the military wouldn't comply, unless there was a damned good reason for it.

Then I just now decided to look a bit deeper into this topic, just to make sure I wasn't just talking out of my ass. It turns out Trump being in control of our nukes is a bit scarier than I (or my other military friends) had thought. https://www.bloomberg.com/poli...

and shoveled billions of tax dollars in to various (mostly failed) solar companies

What of it? VC companies regularly expect about 1 in 10 companies to succeed. But more importantly, the green energy fund made a profit for the USA.

Or do you have some objection to the US government investing in the US and making a profit on the investment?

The snyde reference to Solyndra isn't quite you'd expect. That program made a profit https://www.bloomberg.com/news...

How about telling the truth for once?
The poor make less in earned income tax credit than their excise and payroll taxes
Nice to find the rebuttal in less than 1 minute

You are right that we have a long history of people crying wolf. As part of a course on the policy and ethical implications of AI, I am teaching the history of Luddite reactions from the printing press to the more recent robotic "revolution". Even recently with ATMs, there was a prediction of fewer branches and tellers which did not happen. So we're good right? Well...

Unfortunately, there is one thing that should stand out as being potentially different this time -- in previous instances of the Chicken Little scenarios, it was those who were worried about being displaced that were sounding the alarm, not those creating the technology. This time, it's the other way around. The vast majority of AI researchers, particularly in the private sector, are bullish on the elimination of most blue-collar and service jobs (even management and hedge fund investors are not safe) in the not too distant future. And if you have doubts, we have ample room to believe that the changes are not 50 years away:

• Manufacturing jobs are finally returning to North America...for robots
• Chinese factory replaces 90% of human workers with robots. Production rises by 250%, defects drop by 80%
• BBC News: Foxconn replaces '60,000 factory workers with robots'
• Attention all humans of Shanghai! Robo chefs will now whip you up a bowl of ramen in 90 seconds flat
• Japanese white-collar workers are already being replaced by artificial intelligence
• Mining 24 Hours a Day with Robots
• China Has Launched the Robocops You Have Been Waiting For
• Robots are already replacing fast-food workers Trump’s pick for labor chief, the CEO of Hardee's and Carl’s Jr., likes the idea.
• Inside Silicon Valley’s Robot Pizzeria
• Fmr. McDonald's USA CEO: $35K Robots Cheaper Than Hiring at $15 Per Hour
• Fast-food CEO says he's investing in machines because the government is making it difficult to afford employees

And other things to think about....

• Dallas Police Used Robot With Bomb to Kill Ambush Suspect
• Microsoft Foresees AR Tracking Your Keys, Milk, Entire Life
• White House: US Needs a Stronger Social Safety Net To Help Workers Displaced by Robots
• McKinsey's 2016 Analy

The whole reason the republican party is so willing to tolerate his bullshit theatrics is that his actual policies are a wet dream come true for the people who have been fertilizing the swamp. They are letting coal mines pollute streams again, repealing laws that protect grandmothers from being ripped off by "financial planners." And reducing the safeguards on the kind of real-estate bank lending that caused the housing meltdown. Its open season on the little guy like never before.

Haven't you been paying attention these past 8 years? Anything Obama and/or the Democrats did, do, might/will do is bad and must be stopped. Screw anything else.

Trump begins to prove he is just another liar in office.

The whole reason the republican party is so willing to tolerate his bullshit theatrics is that his actual policies are a wet dream come true for the people who have been fertilizing the swamp. They are letting coal mines pollute streams again, repealing laws that protect grandmothers from being ripped off by "financial planners." And reducing the safeguards on the kind of real-estate bank lending that caused the housing meltdown. Its open season on the little guy like never before.

Here is some evidence to support the claim that the IT shortage is a myth:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-11-24/the-tech-worker-shortage-doesnt-really-exist

http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/education/the-stem-crisis-is-a-myth

These are all deflections of the argument. Different people are trying different solutions to the same global catastrophic problem, people with different opinions on what they don't mind giving up. Don't like the solutions? Then come to the table, and we'll negotiate a better one we can all agree on. Don't deflect and deny.

Couple of side points: (1) No, it is not the "same people" protesting nuclear plants as trying to combat global warming. (2) Solutions don't have to be terribly invasive. Markets show great progress on the cost of renewable energy sources (Source), all we need is a slight bump (probably subsidy) to make sure they win in the near term instead of the distant future. (3) You want to ban charter flights, fine. It doesn't take away from the message. In fact it only strengthens it -- change will not ever happen at the consumer level, because it's very difficult to give up convenience for the greater good, especially if one's peers don't either. It's really just the prisoner's dilemma, scaled up. And as a really minor note, Di Caprio did pay a voluntary carbon tax to offset emissions from flying to produce "Before the Flood."

In September, Apple claimed watch revenues second only to Rolex. How can it not be considered a hit at this point?

In 30 years people will still be buying Rolex watches.

They probably won't be buying Swatch, as fun as they were in the 1980's. Only the CEO of Swatch feels threatened by Apple's watch.

Luck can be a big factor in an individual hand, but in the long term, it evens out.

An interesting read:
https://www.bloomberg.com/view...

Also notice that the phrase "alternative facts" was delivered by his staff, so it works as a loyalty test to see how far they are willing to support him even though they are asked to do outrageous things.

Such loyalty testing might be found in environments driven by fear and uncertainty. Similarly to how a criminal gang leader might ask new members to do something outrageous like torturing or killing someone to test them, and also make them dependent on the leader for protection.

What we're talking about here is your claim that at least some foreigners have a legal right to enter the USA, overriding the president's executive order. So far, you have provided zero support for your statement.

I guess you don't read the news, huh. Here's an example of several different judges blocking parts of that executive order:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news...

So, no it's not actually clear if Trump's order is in fact legal. There are rights given legislatively to foreigners. Despite what Trump and his army of winged monkeys want, he can't simply overwrite legislation by fiat without the courts getting involved.

The problem here is that you pull claims out of your ass, fail to come up with evidence, and then feign indignation when people call you on your b.s.

Ah straight out of the republian playbook: get caught in a lie so double down! Now, we both know you said:

Besides, given what a horrible place the US is according to you,

in post #53759567. And we both know it's a lie. You know the problem with arguing with someone who isn't a Trumpanzee is that we won't necessarily automatically believe lies if you simply repeat them enough. That must be odd for you.

It'll cost a further $63 billion over the next decade, just to keep the existing reactors running. Many of their reactors are quite old now, and no longer meet current safety standards.

I'm in favour of nuclear power where it makes sense, but the costs are not small. Accidents do happen, and given the potential consequences, safety standards must be strictly adhered to, which just adds to the costs. This has to be factored into any serious energy planning.

Avaya is probably 40-50% of the business phones out there and probably 90% of the phones used in call centers. There's no way they shouldn't be profitable.

And Vlasic had a huge percentage of the pickle market before it filed for bankruptcy. Market share by itself tells you nothing.

Avaya was sitting on $6 billion in debt and most recently reported $58 million in quarterly profits. Do the math.

Moody's downgraded them twice last year, from nearly the junkiest of junky junk to something a bit junkier.

The only surprising thing is that they held off the inevitable as long as they did.

When one talks about how "big" a company is, that's normally measured by market cap (stock value). That's a good measurement between older, stable companies, but overstates size of growing companies - it's really a measure of how big they are expected to become.

Amazon, Alphabet (Google), and Intel are the top 3 for R&D spending, Facebook is #17.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view...

Why Donald's staff are lying:

By requiring subordinates to speak untruths, a leader can undercut their independent standing, including their standing with the public, with the media and with other members of the administration. That makes those individuals grow more dependent on the leader and less likely to mount independent rebellions against the structure of command. Promoting such chains of lies is a classic tactic when a leader distrusts his subordinates and expects to continue to distrust them in the future.

Another reason for promoting lying is what economists sometimes call loyalty filters. If you want to ascertain if someone is truly loyal to you, ask them to do something outrageous or stupid. If they balk, then you know right away they aren’t fully with you. That too is a sign of incipient mistrust within the ruling clique, and it is part of the same worldview that leads Trump to rely so heavily on family members.

One of the great challenges for Trump is that being the executive of a nation is very different from being the executive of a company. In general, Trump could fire anyone you he wanted, at any time, at any of his companies. There are many positions in the government that this can not be done, and "firing" citizens (whether by deporting or by putting them in jail) is also not easy without compelling evidence or circumstances.

"We're all in it together" (and similar) is a phrase that has been spoken a lot lately by Trump and his subordinates. My impression is that this may be Trump realizing and attempting to deal with this key difference between managing government and private companies.

Why Donald's staff are lying:

By requiring subordinates to speak untruths, a leader can undercut their independent standing, including their standing with the public, with the media and with other members of the administration. That makes those individuals grow more dependent on the leader and less likely to mount independent rebellions against the structure of command. Promoting such chains of lies is a classic tactic when a leader distrusts his subordinates and expects to continue to distrust them in the future.

Another reason for promoting lying is what economists sometimes call loyalty filters. If you want to ascertain if someone is truly loyal to you, ask them to do something outrageous or stupid. If they balk, then you know right away they aren’t fully with you. That too is a sign of incipient mistrust within the ruling clique, and it is part of the same worldview that leads Trump to rely so heavily on family members.

What's to stop people from going to Venezuela and buying 10 copies of Final Cut Pro and bringing it back to the US? Unless you are suggesting that they start region locking software, controlling which country you can use software in depending on where you bought it.

Why would you go to Venezuela to buy anything? Even if you could find a flight...

Perhaps you should think about using Cuba as your example communist country in the future... Oh wait, you can't buy Final Cut Pro there either because of the US boycott, Ecuador anyone?

And then you look at other states that are failing

Other states have:

*Taxes that are devastating on people with lower incomes
*Instead of randomly belaboring a single data point, consider the whole picture, including the nastiness of total local government debt
*A regulatory and legal climate that leads to exposure to pollution and injury risks
*Decades old reports with schools that are some of the worst in the nation being hysteria to justify even worse results
*Huge backlogs of road work necessary across the country, and a refusal to pay for it
*Increasing income inequality
*Huge drug problems in rural areas.

I can drop links on you all day, don't pester California or San Francisco when you live in a glass house yourself.

Solar is now cheaper than wind. https://www.bloomberg.com/news...

Man, that article is for investors. It tells how much it costs them to invest into a new power plant. It does not include cost externalized to others. E.g. it will include dotation (if any), but it will not include cost of a beefier grid and power storage. It probably will include carbon trading payments (if any).

The problem is that decommissioning nuclear power plants is coming in at 10 times more expensive than estimated 30 years ago. And since private companies can't afford those costs, you end up paying them in higher rates or higher taxes.

We also need at least one breeder reactor which would reduce nuclear waste to 1% the volume AND also simultaneously reduces the lifespan of the radioactive waste significantly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
" removing the transuranics from the waste eliminates much of the long-term radioactivity of spent nuclear fuel.["

Such a reactor would need very high security (perhaps to the extent of being run by the government and on a large military base because plutonium is one output. You can make nuclear weapons from that. BUT, you could also shuttle it off the planet to fuel long range space exploration as fast as we make it to reduce that risk.

On your other point...

Solar is now cheaper than wind.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news...

And...
Solar is closing in on price parity with the likes of coal â" with full-cycle, unsubsidized costs of about 13 cents per kilowatthour, versus 12 cents for advanced coal plants.

But there will be cases where we need Coal (with proper scrubbing which didn't start for many plants until 2015 and which may be backed out now) until we get very good batteries. And lots of them. If every consumer has a "power wall" of some kind with 8 hours of electrical storage, and when power companies have lots of molten salt (or whatever) to store power for night time and cloudy days, then we'll need no coal. But until then, we'll need some coal.

But less.

And the price for coal (and oil) is set by the most expensive coal to mine (or oil to pump).
Say you can mine 90% of coal for 36 dollars a ton and the last 10% for 46 dollars a ton. Then the price of coal will be $46 dollars a ton. So if you can just eliminate 10% of demand for coal, then the price of coal (and your electric cost ber kwh) will drop about 22%.

That's an interesting bit of deflection.

"Ignore what these nominees have done, because just IMAGINE what Clinton would have done."

I don't know if you noticed, but Clinton didn't win, so we have to deal with what the actual President and the actual nominees for the Secretary positions have done and will do.

For all his talk of "draining the swamp", Trump is instead topping it up. And hell, he's already made it harder for people to get mortgages. https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-20/trump-administration-overturns-obama-s-fha-mortgage-fee-cut

I wonder how well NBC's books are actually doing.

The Olympics have turned out to be a bad investment for NBC. They paid 12 Billion. But: “We wake up someday and the ratings are down 20 percent,” the chief executive officer of NBCUniversal said at a conference. “If that happens, my prediction would be that millennials had been in a Facebook bubble or a Snapchat bubble and the Olympics have come, and they didn’t know it.” They're blaming it on everything but the fact that some people want to watch sports and not fluff pieces and Chevy Ads.

It's almost as if more hours worked does not actually equate to getting productive things done... https://www.bloomberg.com/news...

Almost every word of your post is factually incorrect.

The Wii-U did not out-sell the XB1. Not even close. The most recent "units shipped" numbers for the Wii-U are at 13.36 million, as of September 2016. The most recent equivalent number on the XB1 is 19 million, from January 2016 (so the gap has likely widened significantly since then, boosted in particular by the XB1-S release over the summer). Both numbers are "shipped" rather than "sold".

And don't mistake the fact that Nintendo sell hardware at a profit (which they don't always these days anyway and haven't consistently since the first 3DS price-cut) with them being profitable. Nintendo hasn't been consistently profitable since FY2010-11, which was the last year in which it reaped Wii-led mega-profits. Since then, it has flipped between loss and (small) profits, but with the main deciding factor being currency fluctuations. When Nintendo has reported an operating profit over this period, it has generally been on the basis of the 3DS. The Wii-U may not even have recouped its development costs, particularly after its abandonment by third parties led to licensing fees all but drying up and a number of first party titles such as Starfox Zero crashed and burned.

Moreover, the gaming section of Sony has been very profitable indeed since the launch of the PS4 (and, indeed, since the company got its house in gear in the latter part of the PS3 cycle). In fact, while Sony was a bit of a basket case until a couple of years ago, the company has bounced back strongly in recent years, almost entirely on the basis of its gaming division. Remember, whether a console is sold at a profit or a loss is not actually all that relevant - licensing fees are where the real money is. How MS's Xbox division is doing is a bit harder to judge, but they seem to have turned things around a bit over the last 18 months and are likely at least no worse than Nintendo now. As of late last year, Nintendo was posting some pretty awful financial losses.

It would be good if we could start to ditch some of the 2007-era narrative now. Nintendo's position today is a lot weaker than it was then, but we still hear the same old clichés trotted out.

Amazon: Worse than Wal-Mart: Amazon's sick brutality and secret history of ruthlessly intimidating workers (February 23, 2014)

Amazon: Inside Amazon: Wrestling Big Ideas in a Bruising Workplace (August 15, 2015) Quote: "The company is conducting an experiment in how far it can push white-collar workers..."

Amazon: Amazon Under Fire Over Alleged Worker Abuse in Germany (February 19, 2013)

Microsoft: Microsoft Is Filled With Abusive Managers And Overworked Employees, Says Tell-All Book (May 23, 2012)

Seattle: Together with Microsoft and bad city management, Seattle is a miserable place:

Traffic: Seattle one of the worst U.S. cities for traffic congestion, tied with NYC (March 31, 2015) Quote: "An additional 23 minutes a day spent in traffic may not sound like much, but when it adds up over a year it becomes 89 hours." (Whoever wrote that must be accustomed to Seattle misery. An additional 23 minutes a day spent in traffic sounds HORRIBLE.)

Slow internet: Many areas of Seattle have poor internet connections. See the article, These places have the slowest Internet in the country. (June 25, 2015) Quote: "... Seattle ... CenturyLink (CTL) customers trying to access particular sites from 9 p.m. to 10 p.m. will have unbearably slow speeds."

I do knot know what GP believes or knows, but one would have to be have been living under a rock for the past one and a half years not to know that the use of defeat devices is very widespread in the industry. Some reports and articles easily found with your favourite search engine:

The emissions test defeat device problem in Europe is not about VW
Dieselgate At GM? Defeat Devices Claimed To Be Found In Opel Cars
Test of Fiat diesel model shows irregular emissions: Bild am Sonntag
Report on France’s Renault emissions probe omitted crucial details
French government ordered to hand over full details of Renault emissions study
PSA Group Raided by French Fraud Office in Emissions Probe
Nissan faces suit over alleged emission fraud
#Dieselgate continues: new cheating techniques
RDW emission test programme - Results of indicative tests for the presence of an unauthorised defeat device
VW, Daimler, Nissan, Mitsubishi, GM: Can We Finally Agree That Dieselgate Is An Industry Problem?
Revealed: nearly all new diesel cars exceed official pollution limits
Many car brands emit more pollution than Volkswagen, report finds

Defeat devices are hardly a recent phenomenon:
How Common Are EPA “Defeat Devices” In The Auto Industry?
Carmaker Cheating on Emissions Almost as Old as Pollution Tests

There are different ways to cheat, too:
`Shameful' Mitsubishi Fraud Risks Pushing Carmaker to Brink
This is the world now: Suzuki also admits to cheating on fuel-economy tests

It's not hard to find more. Pretty much every manufacturer cheats or has cheated in one way or another.

I do knot know what GP believes or knows, but one would have to be have been living under a rock for the past one and a half years not to know that the use of defeat devices is very widespread in the industry. Some reports and articles easily found with your favourite search engine:

The emissions test defeat device problem in Europe is not about VW
Dieselgate At GM? Defeat Devices Claimed To Be Found In Opel Cars
Test of Fiat diesel model shows irregular emissions: Bild am Sonntag
Report on France’s Renault emissions probe omitted crucial details
French government ordered to hand over full details of Renault emissions study
PSA Group Raided by French Fraud Office in Emissions Probe
Nissan faces suit over alleged emission fraud
#Dieselgate continues: new cheating techniques
RDW emission test programme - Results of indicative tests for the presence of an unauthorised defeat device
VW, Daimler, Nissan, Mitsubishi, GM: Can We Finally Agree That Dieselgate Is An Industry Problem?
Revealed: nearly all new diesel cars exceed official pollution limits
Many car brands emit more pollution than Volkswagen, report finds

Defeat devices are hardly a recent phenomenon:
How Common Are EPA “Defeat Devices” In The Auto Industry?
Carmaker Cheating on Emissions Almost as Old as Pollution Tests

There are different ways to cheat, too:
`Shameful' Mitsubishi Fraud Risks Pushing Carmaker to Brink
This is the world now: Suzuki also admits to cheating on fuel-economy tests

It's not hard to find more. Pretty much every manufacturer cheats or has cheated in one way or another.

I do knot know what GP believes or knows, but one would have to be have been living under a rock for the past one and a half years not to know that the use of defeat devices is very widespread in the industry. Some reports and articles easily found with your favourite search engine:

The emissions test defeat device problem in Europe is not about VW
Dieselgate At GM? Defeat Devices Claimed To Be Found In Opel Cars
Test of Fiat diesel model shows irregular emissions: Bild am Sonntag
Report on France’s Renault emissions probe omitted crucial details
French government ordered to hand over full details of Renault emissions study
PSA Group Raided by French Fraud Office in Emissions Probe
Nissan faces suit over alleged emission fraud
#Dieselgate continues: new cheating techniques
RDW emission test programme - Results of indicative tests for the presence of an unauthorised defeat device
VW, Daimler, Nissan, Mitsubishi, GM: Can We Finally Agree That Dieselgate Is An Industry Problem?
Revealed: nearly all new diesel cars exceed official pollution limits
Many car brands emit more pollution than Volkswagen, report finds

Defeat devices are hardly a recent phenomenon:
How Common Are EPA “Defeat Devices” In The Auto Industry?
Carmaker Cheating on Emissions Almost as Old as Pollution Tests

There are different ways to cheat, too:
`Shameful' Mitsubishi Fraud Risks Pushing Carmaker to Brink
This is the world now: Suzuki also admits to cheating on fuel-economy tests

It's not hard to find more. Pretty much every manufacturer cheats or has cheated in one way or another.

I have been saying consistently that these laws are wrong

You've been asserting that they're wrong, and I've been asking you to justify that they're wrong, and you've been stubbornly refusing to do that in any objective way. Instead you just keep falling back on yet more unjustified assertions. Here was your first attempt:

I want to live in a peaceful, prosperous society in which everybody has equal rights and that doesn't degenerate into tyranny.

So I asked you for evidence that anti-discrimination laws make society less peaceful, or less prosperous, or causes them to degenerate into tyranny. I've asked you this repeatedly. You've repeatedly declined to offer any. You seem to take it for granted that they do, yet you're totally unable to point to concrete evidence to back up the claim. These are not questions for philosophical debate. They're factual questions to be answered through data. Do anti-discrimination laws increase the level of violence, decrease the level of prosperity, etc.? Any claims that aren't based on concrete data are worthless.

Then you tried to equate anti-discrimination laws with Nazism, thus demonstrating that you've never heard of Godwin's Law. But when I pointed out this was ridiculous, you responded with an even wilder absurdity:

Second, we're not talking about "anyone", we're talking about the same movement, the progressive movement. The progressive movement has consistently advocated categorizing people by race and make racial distinctions in government policies for more than a century.

So you just equated all progressives with Nazis. Double Godwin! But aside from that, you've just completely rewritten history. Laws have made distinctions based on race for far more than a century. That isn't something the progressive movement invented, it's one of the main evils the progressive movement fought against. Discrimination existed on a massive scale through large parts of the U.S. That's what the Civil Rights Act tried to eliminate. And contrary to your claim that "anti-discrimination laws don't work", it was actually very effective.

But no. Enforcing anti-discrimination laws involves checking to see if people are discriminating. And to check, you need to collect data. And collecting data about race is evil! Therefore, those laws are evil, and we should go back to the pre-Nazi era when black people were forbidden to live in white neighborhoods, attend white schools, use the same restrooms as white people, or sit in the front of the bus. They had so much more freedom back then, before those evil progressives started sending them off to concentration camps.

Last couple of years have seen the wealthy in China resort to more and more elaborate schemes to exfiltrate their wealth, which they are officially restricted to moving just $50K/yr.

Like suitcases of cash brought on "vacation" to Hong Kong

And buying a $170M painting on a credit card.

Bitcoin is just the current fad for circumventing foreign exchange restrictions. When China clamps down, the wealthy will move to some other method, and bitcoin pricing will probably collapse.

In other news: OPEC cuts oil output for first time in 8 years and oil prices rise.
Don't forget that the reason people use diesel cars is that they are significantly more fuel efficient that petrol cars.

Diesel cars have been getting a real bashing over the last year or so. (e.g. VW emissions scandal)
I have question; why, now, has diesel become the fuel of the devil for the ordinary man?
This article effectively says "Diesel good only for commercial vehicles, bad for consumer vehicles".
Bull. Shit.

It's like the other BS propaganda campaign currently being waged against sugar.
Sugar is the source of all 1st world poor health according to the media.
Sugar is "bad" for 2 reasons.
1) It's natural, tastes better and costs more than artificial sweeteners.
2) It can only be grown in certain climates/countries. e.g. Brazil.
The "BRIC" countries are currently under economic attack unless you haven't noticed.
Brazil was doing really well up until recently. It's economy is helped significantly by sugar.
"He's gone off topic, this isn't about diesel", your probably thinking about now.
No, Brazil uses sugar to make alcohol which you can buy and pump into your car at it's gas stations.
It's a fossil fuel replacement...

I would say it is a /. myth :D

The New York Times disagrees with you. So does businessinsider. And bloomberg. The Chinese control bitcoin, even in Tibet.

The Bolt's looking more and more like another compliance car. Notice they minimized any capital investment, outsourcing the drivetrain to LG and building it on the same line as the Sonic. They are only offering it in CARB states and at negative margins of 9k, which happen to coincide with the available ZEV credits. https://www.bloomberg.com/news...

I think it's clear by now that Tesla is 100% committed to the success of the EV. If the ZEV requirements were dropped tomorrow, GM would ax the Bolt without hesitation. As the old saying goes, vote with your wallet.

Oh, and I don't live in a CARB state, so no Bolt for me.