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Re:Decriminalization in Light of the Drug War
As much as I hate to admit, an article from Fox News had the correct view on the scoop Basically, the ATF said 90% of the guns traced by the ATF came from the US, because the rest obviously originated elsewhere and were not submitted. The rest of the news agencies misreported, because 90% is more sensational than 17%, and they're all liberals from big cities who want to see guns outlawed. I wonder just how many of the 83% of guns were engraved "propiedad del gobierno mexicano"
I think that 17% figure is argument enough to close the border to all vehicles not being individually searched and X-Rayed, borrow some of the Predator UAVs destined to the middle east (to fly over and observe the open areas of the border), and instead of putting up a big and expensive AND easily defeated fence, we should install a big and expensive, but much harder to defeat mine field.
I'm not trying to hate on the Mexicans who just want to have a better life and live within the law... But so many are just tax consuming leaches--it's not right. Legal immigration should be fine, but document them, make sure they speak the language and can get along (just like every other immigrant) and let them pay income tax as well. The drug smugglers would make good vulture food.
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Re:Take off the tinfoil hat
MSNBC is fairly liberal, I personally can't stand Mathews but Madow is quite informative. MSNBC is about as far left-wing as, oh, CNN is right-wing.
Bullshit! I just showed you a video of a reporter who calls a Bush head with a Hitler mustache a "look-alike" and then calls an Obama made to look like Hitler "offensive". NBC is selling Obama merchandise for Pete's sake! (I tried to find a non-conservative source... BUT NO OTHER MEDIA OUTLET WILL REPORT IT!!!!! Kinda proves my fucking point, doesn't it?)
And it's not just what the media reports, but what it does NOT report is just as important. Take the townhalls. They'll show Democratic congressmen and operatives and Nancy Pelosi saying that these townhall protesters are paid by the insurance companies and bussed from town hall to town hall. Of course, this is not true, but the media is OK because they didn't say it, Nancy Pelosi did. And what they don't show or tell you about is the Democratic groups that are paid and bussing people from town hall to town hall. HERE is a video of ACORN leaving a town hall. Nor will they tell you that people are literally being paid to campaign for health care reform, like in Craigslist ad. Do you see that in the media? Nope, but it is EXACTLY what the Democrats are accusing the Republicans of doing. They are guilty of what they accusing the innocent of doing and the press ignores it. Would you considered union members organized and paid? Here is an article from HuffPo saying that Union members are organizing at town halls! See that in the media? Nope!
Seriously, with just the town hall stuff, I could go on for days with example after example of how Town Hall protesters are called terrorists, Nazi's, BrownShirts and all kinds of other names. They are accused of being Astroturfers, fake, paid, and so on when those that are doing the accusing are the ones that are the true astroturfers. And seriously, you think the press is fair to right wing?
Oh, and to your comment that there is no left wing Ann Coulter or Rush Limbaugh... you did say you knew who Rachel Maddow was, right? How about Keith Olbermann? Maybe Randy Rhodes? Katie Couric? Al Franking (now Senator Al Frankin... thanks to those hundreds of votes found in the truck of a Democrat poll workers car.... all for Frankin)... Need I go on?
Given what I've said in this comment along with the other comments, including the links, if you seriously think the media is fair or right wing, please, go see a doctor or something because there is seriously something wrong with you. No really, SERIOUSLY WRONG!
Or you are just being an asshole. So you are either psychotic, retarded or just an asshole. Either way, there's really no point in talking with you.
Good day, sir.
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History
Cohen had her face face slashed in a bar a couple of years ago (also here). My guess would be that this lawsuit was an effort to find out if the same guy was after her again.
There's a little more to this than anonymous insults on the Internet, and in this case it is probably justifiable to reveal the blogger's identity. Ideally, the police would look into it and determine whether or not the blogger is a threat (without making his identity public), but they likely do not have time to investigate anonymous Internet insults.
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130 Million Credit Card Numbers Stolen
by RUSSIAN criminals
Please give me some credit for NOT using the Fox term "hackers".
Yours In Satan,
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Re:People definitely neglect science...Formal education systems with their rigidity are terrible institutions that suppress any individuality - I thought when I was young. Today I think that more often then not individuality and creativity is misunderstood for aggression and lack of respect for others. Of course system swings either this or the other direction and the weak and sensitive become either outcasts or get skin thick enough to survive. This thickening of skin is also a learn process that although unpleasant is necessary in your adult life.
I hated some of my teachers for although good in formal teaching they failed as an examples of how adults should behave. I still dislike t hem but I understand now that these experiences were preparation to adult life. This of course does not answer the question of science.
But frankly I see this rather relaxed. I am sure that a lot of scientists are just plain arses without understanding and capacity to lead a dispute in the way the old philosophers did. There is plenty of bad scientists. Some of them achieve something in their own field but still fail to even see a bigger picture (forget about understanding what is there to explore). But of course it is important to understand why herring farts it is I think not a coincidence that these were british scientists - brits with their anal obsession fit exactly in this research field but that requires further research which I am sure will be (is being???) done.
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Re:Worst of both worlds
Long range electric or efficient internal combustion.
According to this article, what is my impression of the current state-of-the-art of realistic electric vehicles, the Tesla Roadster, is capped at 244 miles on a charge.
Are you going to pay for my second car so that I have one that is both super efficient at city driving (as the Volt is) while allowing me to go long trips as well?
Yes, long range electric would be great. So would the Enterprise's transporter.
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BILLY MAYS WAS A COKE HEAD!
BILLY MAYS WAS A COKE HEAD! http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,538220,00.html
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Damn! No Pop Tarts?
The only thing on foxnews.com that I read is Pop Tarts. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,537022,00.html
Oh well, from now on I guess I will have to get all my news from TMZ.com.
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Fox News
Accordingly we intend to charge for all our news websites,' Murdoch said.
At least Fox News will still be free.
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Re:If it's legal?
No idea why I'm humoring an AC who thinks that such claims are outrageous, all of these are real, and recent examples:
- Teacher smacks student: so many of these, take your pick
- Teacher duct tapes kids mouth: here, and google for more
- Teacher duct tapes kid to desk: here, and google for more
- Teacher strip searches half a dozen prepubescent girl... the only one with a little hyperbole, a principal who strip searched a 13 yo girl because... "another student said she had motrin" (let's be clear here, motrin is an ibuprofen-based analgesic, nothing more): and google for more
Is that the kind of evidence you're looking for? Are you a teacher in self-righteous denial?
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Re:If it's legal?
No idea why I'm humoring an AC who thinks that such claims are outrageous, all of these are real, and recent examples:
- Teacher smacks student: so many of these, take your pick
- Teacher duct tapes kids mouth: here, and google for more
- Teacher duct tapes kid to desk: here, and google for more
- Teacher strip searches half a dozen prepubescent girl... the only one with a little hyperbole, a principal who strip searched a 13 yo girl because... "another student said she had motrin" (let's be clear here, motrin is an ibuprofen-based analgesic, nothing more): and google for more
Is that the kind of evidence you're looking for? Are you a teacher in self-righteous denial?
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Re:"Gov't secrets" is an oxymoron
This story is just like Biden revealing the secret bunker.
Which apparently isn't what actually happened, according to this follow-up: http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/05/18/biden-did-not-reveal-the-secret-bunker
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Re:because laws change faster than finances do
There's a difference between properly decommissioned, IE posing no real risk, and the level of decommissioning that the 'green whackos' want, which would result in a site likely cleaner than before man ever built there.
Kinda like the whole Yucca Mountain debacle. I've always figured that whatever we put in there our descendants would be hauling out within a century to reprocess and burn again.
The remaining stuff - like the contaminated steel, isn't as big of a problem.
Even if you used the steel to build a skyscraper, CONGRESS likely gets more radiation exposure from the natural radioactivity of the granite and marble used in the construction of the congress building than workers would from the beams.
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Re:And?
Actually if you read the whole article down to the posted comments you come across a link to a retraction that Fox News printed. http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/05/18/biden-did-not-reveal-the-secret-bunker/ The real undisclosed location is "allegedly" in Pennsylvania. I know, i know...this is slashdot no one RTFA.
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Re:And they said that GW would be a bad thing
Al Gore offsets his energy consumption/CO2 generation.
5 seconds googling "al gore offset" found this:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,257958,00.htmlYes. FoxNews. Although the article is clearly meant to demean him "he doesn't pay for the offsets himself - in fact he's making money! Boo! Evil!", what is clear is that he IS taking action to mitigate the effects of his lifestyle. I find it odd that FoxNews should castigate him for doing something that some-people won't be able to afford. I thought we lived in a capitalist paradise and were all for market-based solutions?
You can argue about the long-term usefulness of offsets in terms of actually reducing CO2 emmissions. I would argue that they're predominantly about getting people used to the concept that carbon has a cost - be prepared to pay. -
Re:Causing Cancer
I remember some idiots claiming to be allergic to wireless signals once.
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Re:You're doing it wrong
All the sudden "no chubbies!" is thundering in my head.
Thank you fox news, Thank you so much.
Between this an repeatedly blowing up a yellow vans, you are sure full of laughs. -
Re:Surprising?
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Re:I enjoy nuclear power
Actually Obama supports nuclear energy:
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/EnergyFactSheet.pdf
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/07/11/the-energy-wars/Harry Reid is the one causing problems with Yucca Mountain.
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Sorry, it's not just a serial number
If it was just a randomised serial number as is used to detect fake drugs (AFAIK the idea behind aegate.com) it would still not be OK as that implies a mother of all databases with personal details and biometrics which are accessible by any idiot with a border.
However, have a look at http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,431701,00.html and others, a Dutch group CHANGED the data on the chip which implies (1) it's on the chip and (2) it's changeable ON REMOTE.
The chip holds data, data that can be accessed and even changed without the owner knowing (except mine, it appears the lack of shielding makes it very sensitive to being accidentally passed over a microwave comms dish. Funny that..).
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Physchology
Living in cramped quarters with a few other people for 105 days is not so big a deal. Reality would likely be far different. See, those 105 people *knew* that just outside the cramped wall was a big, beautiful, receptive planet, with air to breathe, beer to drink, and babes walking around to scope out. They are a day-flight away from home, wherever it be. Something go wrong? Darn, too bad. Simulation over, everybody have a beer and go home!
But an actual, honest-to-god Mars trip is different, and everybody will know it. Just outside the cramped wall is the darkest, blackest, most incomprehensibly complete void mankind can fathom. No air, no beer, no babes. Nothing. And not just some nothing, MILLIONS of miles of nothing. Months of travel at speeds inconceivable to airlines flight. Something go wrong? Everybody's dead!
Sure, just about anybody could live with this kind of stress for a while, but we're not talking about a while, we're talking about MONTHS of this kind of pressure. Many perfectly healthy, strong, capable people would crack under this kind of pressure. And even our best and brightest crack under the pressure of living here on Earth, with lots of air, beer, and pretty babes!
The simulation is more of a publicity stunt, and it's appropriate. People want to try the trip, and that's A-OK. But do not think, even for a moment, that this gives particularly meaningful data on what a real Mars trip would be like!
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Re:Funny the other press.
Right, because Fox News would never do such a thing.
Bias Reaches New Heights at New York Times
By Sean Hannity
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Re:What's the exit strategy?
It would be like someone offering the secret of Coke to Pepsi - what do you expect Pepsi to do?
That sort of happened, and yes Pepsi did immediately inform Coca-Cola.
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Re:Automation...but beware of falling into ignorance.
Whoops.
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Now here's an inconvenient truth:
More outcome-based science being decided at the Presidential level. Weren't we supposed to have left this sort of thing behind us when we elected Obama?
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Re:This is America
Bah, we threw that old thing out for drunk driving checkpoints.
I disagree with them, but the rational used for check points is that they check everybody and don't pull people over at random.
We violate it every single time anyone flys commercially.
I most especially disagree with this. I've repeatedly said government shouldn't be running all these security check points to board a plane. If individual airlines want fliers to pass through security check points they should be able to, one airline could say they made sure passengers were safe while another could advertise they didn't harass fliers, but not government. I was really hoping the courts would side with John Gilmore, but they didn't. What really gets me was that the district court said it lacked standing or jurisdiction, yet one of the jobs of the courts is to keep the executive branch within the constitution. You know all that three legs stuff.
We violate it every time anyone enters a public government building. We especially violate it when you show up for legally required jury duty, and are unconstitutionally searched before being allowed to comply with the summons.
Yea, things have really changed since 911. I still recall being able to walk into a government building, not have to empty out my pockets or pass through metal detectors. I was summoned twice for jury duty and didn't have to put up with that BS. Unfortunately neither tyme was I even questioned never mind actually picked to serve on a jury. Both tymes I was hoping to be picked for a victim-less crime trial, such as drug possession, so I could use jury nullification to tell government the law was bad. Law enforcement and prosecutors today would have jailed Thomas Jefferson along with several other Founding Fathers.
Falcon
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Re:Fake news site
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Obligatory
I got redirected to an obviously fake news site.
Fixed
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Feed them what nature intended
Corn is not a natural food source for cows. It causes all sorts of issues by changing the ph balance of the cows stomachs, burping included. Feed them grass, alfalfa, and flax like one farmer did. There's no reason to genetically engineer them in this way. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525590,00.html Not only did the burps get cut back, but the cows are healthier cutting vet costs down, and the milk and beef is more nutritious. Milk and beef will cost a bit more, but considering the environmental and nutritional benefits of raising our cattle this way I think it's a fair trade off.
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Re:Oh, please.
How did I stumble into a debate at a local junior high? But let's look at your argument, feeble as it may be.
At this point I don't think you are even ready for a Jr. High level debate. You have consistently provided flippant replies and immediately dismiss any opposing viewpoints as ignorant and now feeble. At this point my reply isn't for you, it is for people who are more open-minded that might read the words you spew.
Corruption is due to the social-economic situation in Mexico. Sending public projects to family is normal, bribery as a way of doing business is normal. I see the corruption as one symptom of the poor social-economic situation so we really do agree here. I'm opposed to the US meddling in other countries and the US should not have done anything beyond saying they weren't happy with the proposed legalization.
Another interesting fact is that a vast majority of the arms used to kill people in Mexico are purchased in the United States, illegally, because our gun registration system is practically meaningless. I know as you do that having the right to buy assault weapons is more important than life itself, and you can be sure the residents of northern Mexico understand that as well these days.
Your so called fact has been disproven repeatedly. You will notice that the media hasn't brought it up recently. Only a small portion of firearms recovered in Mexico are sent to the BATF. This is because it is obvious that most of the firearms are not from the US. Machine guns are heavily regulated in the US and I've yet to hear of a single machine gun being traced back to the US. Yet machine guns are commonly used by criminals in Mexico. RPG's have been recovered and guess what, as a US citizen you can't go buy one.
The Libertarian Party has even called Obama and news organizations out on this blatant lie. At http://blogofbile.com/2009/04/20/libertarian-party-calls-out-barack-obama-over-false-gun-facts/#more-4072 one quote is "That means only 5,114 out of 29,000 guns used in Mexican crimes were found to have come from the United States. That figure would be 17 percent, not the 90 percent repeated by Obama." While I would like to see no firearms transferred illegally to Mexico to say that the US is the major source is so far from reality as to be laughable. Here is another source where even the ATF has clarified on the 90% number that was so sensationally splashed across the news networks. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/04/02/myth-percent-guns-mexico-fraction-number-claimed/ .
I do believe that the 2nd Amendment is very important and several States have put unreasonable restrictions on it. I'm very much opposed to the 1986 Firearms Act, there is absolutely no reason to not allow new machines guns to be owned by civilians. Of course I'm sure you use the made up definition of an assault weapon and consider any of the AR15's in my gun safe one. An assault weapon must be capable of burst or automatic operation. I'm all for reasonable restrictions which include background checks and for machine guns the stricter ATF background check and tax stamp are a good thing.
You seem to view firearms as evil incarnate. I view them as tools, hobbies such as sporting clays, competition shooting or even just plinking are very relaxing. The people of northern Mexico are likely far more practical and don't curse the guns used by criminals, they curse the criminals. As proven in Darfur guns aren't needed to perform massacres, machetes do the job just fine. You should be attacking the root cause, banning guns won't solve the problem just change it. Why do people break the laws and do violent acts, if you can solve that then owning a gun won't matter one way or the
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Re:Ummm
Nothing will rally conservative forces in Iran more than the belief that the US is supporting a coup against them yet again. On the other hand, support from *individual Americans*, that's completely different.
Duly noted, commence operation astroturf!
Seriously, there is a big risk here of blindly hopping into bed with the enemy of our enemy and catching something nasty. To listen to the Republicans, we'd have done it already if it were up to them. (Speaking of which, have I mentioned lately how glad I am that McCain lost?)
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You're probably right, but what about this law?
Isn't there another section of copyright saying exactly how many TVs/radios/etc. (and how large they can be) you can have in your business before you infringe?
I believe it came up in this case. And I think that copyright law bars you from having screens bigger than 55" explicitly in one of the statutes. There's more analysis of the law in question in this story about the same case, which links to this law.
Now, I apologize for jumping in here. You're probably right about whatever you're arguing over retransmission and whatnot, but there are other weird parts of copyright law that trip people (and businesses) up. It's probably based on those statutes (and not any retransmission laws) that ASCAP goes after anyone with radios/loudspeakers/TVs/etc.
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Re:constitutional powers
The fact that the federal government has ruled that somebody growing weed for personal use in his own residence, because he might impact the insterstate weed market by not buying from a street dealer, should be all you need to know to understand that the Federal government would consider ISPs interstate commerce.
Oh, I agree the feds may try. As you say the feds have gone after people in California for marijuana after the state legalized medical marijuana. Going all the way to the Supreme Court 5 of the 9 justices ruled the feds do have the power. However the other 4 said the feds didn't. What's generally not know is that the district judge in the medical marijuana case Gonzales v Raich barred the jury from being told the state had approved of medical marijuana. In Ed Rosenthal's case "several jurors renounced their verdict and rallied to his cause" after learning the state and city allowed medical marijuana. In that case the judge gave him 1 day in jail. Fact is is some judges do what they can to prevent jury nullification wherein juries tell politicians a law is as well as Fully Informed Juries.
Looking to the federal government is not even that wrong anymore. In this ever more globalized economy, people are wanting ever greater conformity in the laws. Having significant differences between the law in various states can be a real hassle. I mean picture if each state had its own set of regulations on what is legal in a cell phone, such that having your cell phone turned on when you entered the state next to you would be a crime, since your phone does not meet that states regulations.
Therein lies the problem, governments have gotten big and enact a bunch of laws. Laws should only be ones wherein harm to others is caused. Crimes like murder, pollution, rape, robbery. The rest can be handled with civil lawsuits. If there is no victim something shouldn't be illegal. And simply using drugs doesn't cause harm, the over use of drugs may harm the user but that's self inflicted. Legal drugs would end gang violence of the drug trade. Which brings up one group opposed to legalization, gangs. If drugs were legal it'd cut into gang profits if not put gangs out of business. A second group opposed to legalization is the drug warriors and businesses that profit from illegal drugs, all those companies that screen for drugs, provide weapons, and such. A third group is the pharmaceutical companies. They can't patent street drugs.
Falcon
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Not as big of a deal as they're making it look
This is a problem with one satellite. ONE. The problem is with a brand new generation of satellite created by Lockheed Martin. Boeing is also producing new-generation GPS satellites. It stands to reason that the first of any new production run might have a glitch or two that didn't show up in developmental testing. (I'm not defending their shoddy testing procedures, mind you.) The remaining next-generation satellites haven't been completed yet, so it's probably safe to assume that these glitches will be fixed before launch.
The sky is not falling, and GPS will still be around.
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Re:Fox news?!
Best Jammie Thomas re-trial coverage in the media This report ticks all the boxes:
- What happened on the original trial
- Why there is a retrial
- What MediaSentry did
- The dirty things the RIAA did (finally someone in the mass media pointing this out!)
- Camara's new strategyand more.
The writer of this article did his homework thoroughly. The RIAA gets a good bludgeoning here.
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Trollinium
I was going to suggest "Taminium" or "Luciferium", and link to an old journal entry that describes her, but I'd be modded "troll", especially if I linked to the journal titled "NSFW" that describes her. Nobody but my journal's readers would have gotten the joke.
So I'll instead suggest "Uribeum".>
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Re:Well
I dunno. If your job involves being responsible for thousands of people losing their homes, and helping to spark the worst economic crisis in generations, suicide is probably the honorable way out. Certainly much more respectable than taking bonuses for your failure.
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Re:Time for gubm't to step aside and let others le
Right, lets leave it to private enterprise, so they can do for spaceflight what they've done for the financial services industry.
Nice try, but it was mostly Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae that fucked of the financial services industry.
Even still, maybe the private sector would do for space flight what it's done for the computer industry?
Also, even comrade Obama disagrees with you here, because as he's cutting NASA's budget he's giving out hundreds of billions of dollars to private companies in an ill conceived attempt to stimulate the private sector. Maybe you should tell him to stop spending so much money bailing out that "superstitious bullshit", and divert more of it to seemingly better causes, like the war on drugs, paying single moms to have kids, paying farmers not to farm, and sending people to Mars for no good reason.
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Re:Two Year Associate's Degree of Liberal ArtsYes, while he shows intelligence and a bit of wisdom, this comment also shows his immaturity and lack of experience (which can only be gained with time, time with which he has.)
But, graduating college at 11 may not be his highest goal in life.
"I want to be a movie actor and compete in the 2016 Olympics in martial arts," Cavalin told NBC affliate Wood TV. FoxNews -
I know this one!
Show them you know math! You can't use numbers, those are human constructs. Although maybe you could use Roman numerals. You could try to use an XY system and draw something like sin or cos, although they may not understand our coordinate system. I think I'd go with using geometric shapes to represent PI or something. Like this picture here.
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Re:Here is another good one
People who don't understand the concept of making a hyperlink shouldn't... uh... throw rocks. Or something. I really didn't think this joke through to a punchline.
In any case: Sotomayor's Record Could Give Environmentalists Hope, Business Leaders Pause
I find it quite disheartening the number of replies you've gotten trying to explain it away as "strict interpretation of the law" given that it's one of the many cases of hers that were overturned the instant it hit the Supreme Court. So obviously if it was "a strict legal opinion," it was wrong.
Leaving us wondering whether or not she really understands the concept of diminishing returns.
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Why it won't work
OK, so *ALL AMERICAN NEWSPAPERS* paywall their websites. Now, what do you do about foreign newspapers???
And it's not just newspapers either. What about...
http://www.cnn.com/
http://www.foxnews.com/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/
http://www.cbc.ca/What about websites of radio and TV networks, and their individual stations, around the world?
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Re:Real summary:
It probably should also be noted that even with all that has happened, the longest it can happen in the US under a single president is 8 years and there is the opportunity to end it every 4 years.
We also have most of what has happened under the previous administration like due process and so on administrated by the courts and more notably US Supreme Court which went against the administration on more then a couple of events.
So even when something does happen, it's not permanent nor is it out of the realm of being addressed. Look at how the courts went against some of these attempts to censor content.
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Re:Nice to have a Sec of Energy actually Read the
My cynicism knows no bounds, which gives me to think what the Democratic response to this might have been if a Bush Administration official had proposed it. I'm betting something to the tune of, "Oh those damned Republicans they want to use band-aid technological fixes so they can go on driving their SUVs over baby polar bears for another ten years!"
Tried to think of a similar situation, but the closest I could think of was when Obama pointed out that keeping your tires inflated to the proper psi could save a lot of gas for the whole nation. McCain criticized it because, I dunno, it wasn't as sexy as electric cars? It's actually a perfectly reasonable suggestion that would be effective and easy to do, and as far as I can tell McCain was forced to "fight" it because the other guy brought it up first. I can't off the top of my head think of any things like this going the other way. However, Obama was sort of criticized or made fun of for agreeing with Hillary in the primaries too much.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2008/08/07/tire-pressure-taunt/
Yes it's Fox News, but it was the first google hit and I'm lazy.
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Re:great quote from an older article
Hey, you can mark me flamebait and troll ALL you want. Notice how in your OWN link we are talking 1.3B for THREE firms PLUS a Jap one? Show me ONE where they have been hit with the frankly outrageous "superfines" that MSFT and Intel has.
The fine is of the same order of magnitude as the Microsoft ones, that hardly makes theirs a "superfine". The glass fine wasn't split equally, the French company paid €800M because they were a repeat offender -- just like Microsoft. (source).
And do you want to know why it is a tax and not a fine?
It's a fine because they broke the law. You're pretty dumb if you don't understand that bit. Almost all other companies, American and European, manage to comply with it.
because if it was a fine at least a token amount would go to those that had actually been "hurt" by these actions.
That's called "compensation", but this was a criminal case, not a civil case. IANAL, but maybe the companies can sue. The Fox story says "Kroes could not say how far the cartel had hiked car prices but encouraged customers to seek damages from the glass suppliers through the national courts"
Nope, because the cash went right into the EUs pockets and NOT the supposed "victims".
Hooray, I'll pay 0.000001% less tax as a result! This money hardly registers on the EU budget.
Gives the EU a pretty damned good reason to be finding bogymen under every rock in a dead economy, don't it?
These cases were started long before the economy faltered.
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Re:Yeah right
They were not, by and large, falsely imprisoned.
If someone is imprisoned because they were convicted of a false, bad, law they are falsely imprisoned.
As some of the USA's Founding Fathers said, paraphrasing, it's better to let 10 guilty go free than to falsely convict 1 innocent. In the California medical marijuana case Gonzales v. Raich the federal judge wouldn't allow the jurors to know that California law allows medical marijuana. Nor do many judged allow jury nullification, a method by which the Founding Fathers supported as a way for citizens to tell politicians laws were bad. After jurors in Ed Rosenthal's case convicted him then found out "he was growing the stuff for the city of Oakland" they were outraged. Perhaps as the Fully Informed Jury Association, FIJA, has called for we need another Tea Party.
Falcon
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Re:Military required?
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Re:Why?
Why is it when a Democrat does something wrong the subject is immediately shifted to the prior administration? I simply don't get this.
That would be Fox News' fault:
The vice president, well-known for his verbal gaffes, confirms at a dinner the existence and location of a secret hidden bunker that Cheney is believed to have used after the 9/11 attacks. -- http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/17/oops-biden-reveals-location-secret-vp-bunker/
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To those who thought Palin was a dunce...
The guy who once said Barack was well-spoken and clean for a negro just gave up the location and existence of his own secret bunker. Does he realize that there will be other VPs after him who may have wished to seek refuge in that bunker in the event of an attack? What a colossal ass!
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Old news, sort of
I guess they were not rolling the bills properly. Such a waste.