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Schools have been known to do exactly that. Turn on the camera and mic and take pictures of the kids who use them.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Parenting/pennsylvania-school-fbi-probe-webcam-students-spying/story?id=9905488

One of the issues was apperently, counterfit chips.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/strategic-command-suspension-linked-probe-counterfeit-poker-chips/story?id=20413148

As I write this, I don't see a single mention on cnn.com of this story.

As if CNN is the only news outlet.
In our opinion: Make the NSA accountable
NSA maps some Americans' social connections, says report
N.S.A. Gathers Data on Social Connections of U.S. Citizens

I first heard about it on Good Morning America this morning. It was an AP story. Getting your news from a single source isn't very smart.

If they were doing everything right then why the need for the tax credit?

It's a mere pittance compared to the decades-old infrastructure that a fossil-fuel powered car gets for "free" because we essentially subsidize the entire petroleum fuel supply chain at a federal level [1] to the tune of $10s of billions of dollars. Yes, that's for mega-corporations who are making record profits every quarter [2].

So 200k models qualify for the credit at $7500 a piece. That's a neat $1.5M for each car manufacturer - how does that compare to the $Billions in yearly subsidies that the petro infrastructure gets that's passed on to each gas/diesel guzzling car/truck on the road?

Quit whining about the tiny tax credit. Instead start complaining about how the big three auto manufacturers and Big oil are bending us over a barrel.

[1] http://priceofoil.org/fossil-fuel-subsidies/
[2] http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5503955&page=1

"We" is a lot of people, some that could be respectful, some that not. Also forced the maker of your locks to be able to be opened with a clip to make things easier for us, knowing that no "proper" thief would never figure that. And planted a few hidden bombs just in case we think that you are misbehaving.

Did we mention that we have to pay private prisons if we don't keep them nearly full? Is not that you would have to worry about that

Contrary to popular belief, departments want thinking human beings, not robocops.

Yeah, apparently stupid human beings.

Get over it. There are plenty of other things you can tinker with if the urge strikes. RC boats and helicopters come to mind.

Personal suicide machines? I think not!

Fire up Rocky Flats and Hanford again to start building the next generation of nukes! That way we can get enough Pu-238 to power our deep space ambitions! I read on "The Onion" that the North Koreans are already building their deep space probe Kim Il Wang 1 which will reach out and spread communism to our neighboring galaxies! We can't afford to have a deep space probe power gap! We must contain the Red Menace!

Frankly with all the carcinogens in our air, amoebas in our water and a third of us with Toxoplasmosis, what's a little radiation folks?

What's next? Arresting pre-schoolers who point a finger and go 'Bang Bang!!" ???

What do you mean "next"? You missed that one?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/maryland-grader-suspended-pointing-finger-shape-gun/story?id=18123294 (Warning: auto-video. Hit Mute first.)

In fact, treason has been committed, by the current government of the United States, against the very country of the United States of America

Anyone who chose to side with the treacherous regime that is lording over the citizens of the United States of America could be, in future, charged with treason

Well, you get right on forming that new government and let us know when its ready to take charge.

Or is this what you're talking about? Sovereign Citizens: Radicals Exercising 'God-Given Rights' or Fueling Domestic Terrorism?

I'm shocked it's that low. 4 guns a day nationwide is pretty small. You've got to figure out of the millions pouring through airports daily at least a tiny percentage are bat shit crazy. Maybe not even such a tiny percentage. I remember reading about one guy who freaked out on a flight and his fellow passengers got so frightened that they killed him. This was before 911.

http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/story?id=118734&page=1

there are evidences of plants under WIFI frequency bombardments having retarded growth

Links or it didn't happen

Links, with pictures

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2013/05/can-wifi-signals-stunt-plant-growth/

http://www.mnn.com/health/healthy-spaces/blogs/student-science-experiment-finds-plants-wont-grow-near-wi-fi-router

Now, satisfied ?

I think it's reasonable to keep an eye on everyone planning to break into nuclear weapons facilities. If you disagree I'd be interested to hear why.

Suppose granny and her two friends were only the first wave, just to check if the way was clear? It is entirely possible that granny and friends wouldn't know they were being used. Or perhaps they are being used as "human shields," a tactic that is increasingly popular with various groups these days. Lots of nasty possibilities.

Algerian bloodbath: 23 hostages killed, death toll continues to rise

The Algerian government says it had to take action because the terrorists were going to blow up the facility and execute the hostages, many of whom were strapped to explosives. Others were taken as human shields by terrorists who were either fleeing or re-locating within the facility (depending on whose account you believe) when they came under fire from Algerian helicopters.

David Headley Said to Have Helped Terrorists Target Nuclear Plant

Not to excuse there blatantly illegal searches, but to thing the whole system is some corrupt entity that s out to get everyone is simply wrong.

Sure. Even the Nazis weren't "out to get everyone" -- just troublemakers. Good Germans had nothing to fear from the SS.

(Yeah, yeah, Godwin's law, I lose, whatever.)

If you're a middle-class white American of mainstream religious and political beliefs, someone whose idea of a wild time is drinking four Bud Lights at a Kenny Chesney show, of course you've got nothing to fear from massive government surveillance. (Well, unless you used to date someone who worked at the NSA or something.) You can scamper about on your merry way knowing that the state is only interested in spying on deviants. You know the type. Malcontents. Dreamers. Granola peaceniks.

Good citizens like you have nothing to fear. You can feel safe, knowing the government is your friend. Heck, almost family! It's like having a protective old sibling watching you. I mean, watching out for you.

Yeah, I can linkspam too http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2113410/US-soldier-kills-16-Afghan-civilians-deadly-shooting-rampage.html http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-soldier-describes-thrill-kill-innocent-civilians-afghanistan/story?id=11732681 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/20/us/20soldiers.html?_r=0 You know, if I were in that position, I would do whatever it takes to kill the bastards that invaded and possibly killed members of my family just for being in the wrong location at the wrong time (see collateral murder). And no, you are not protecting some fancy idea of freedom or some other bullshit, you are thugs, criminals, the scum of the world. The world would be better off if your country was nuked from orbit and every piece of it destroyed.

The article is behind a god damned paywall. This one isn't. Google lists many, many sources.

Does Jah-Wren Ryel work for the Times and is trying to increase subscription numbers? A link to a paywall is no citation whatever.

Oh, and according to what I read, these aren't warrentless searches.

Just a reminder that the terrorist pilots entered the US through Canada.

Nope.

You just keep claiming that, while the iPhone continues to top carrier sales charts even with old models...

Citation needed. I showed you mine, now you show me yours.

If it makes you happy to pretend, it's good that you have found peace of some kind in a world that makes no sense to you.

NOBODY expects the iPhone Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the iPope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... (muttering) I'll come in again.

Apparently the NSA is taking a page from police departments here. (Warning: autoplaying video.)

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=9194523

tl;dr - Woman gets drunk, drives, then winds up killing some people. For some reason the state charged the guy who bought her some of the drinks. /facepalm

How about we just stick to holding people accountable for their actions instead of shifting the blame to others, mmmkay?

This link works.

DOH! Thanks

This link works.

That was a very interesting comment. I have not been following this case other than what has seeped in by osmosis, but what you are saying sounds both plausible and very different from the picture the media are painting. I'm trying to track down some of your sources, so I can read more about it (it would have been helpful if you had included URLs in your post).

1. Obama's red line.
2. I can't find the cat video in question on youtube, it seems to drown in videos of the more recent gassing episodes.
3. I think I found a source for the leaked emails, though the paste referred to in that article had been deleted.
4. I found this source for the Feburary home-made Sarin usage by the FSA
5. I this this is the FSA Sarin transport episode. I also did found other similar news from the same source: FSA chemical weapon factory discovered.
6. I found plenty of sources for the kidnapping indicent, including this

As for the hurricanes: consider this 2006 article from abcnews: Category 6 Hurricanes? They've Happened
Excerpt:

In fact, say scientists, there have already been hurricanes strong enough to qualify as Category 6s. They'd define those as having sustained winds over 175 or 180 mph. A couple told me they'd measured close to 200 mph on a few occasions.

If you lose a billion dollars you don't jail Jon Corzine.

John Corzine was a special case. He was a close political ally of President Obama.

"Former New Jersey governor and U.S. Sen. Jon Corzine, whom President Obama once hailed as an “honorable man” and one of his “best partners” in the White House, has been subpoenaed to testify before Congress about his role in the collapse of the investment firm MF Global."
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/jon-corzine-obama-partner-and-campaign-financier-subpoenaed-on-mf-global-collapse/

As they surely will be watching/hearing (at least since 5 years ago they enjoy a lot intercepting and sharing hot phone sex calls), you can try to enjoy having spectators and have fun with them.

How Senator Mitch McConnell got his information about Ashley Judd's private medical data for a slander campaign; and not see a corollary of the humanity that is the NSA?

If you read the news or the transcripts you would have seen they were talking about *what she wrote in her autobiography.* No one accessed her private medical data...

How Senator Mitch McConnell got his information about Ashley Judd's private medical data for a slander campaign; and not see a corollary of the humanity that is the NSA?

The problem with the UK and its secret surveillance stations is in the political power it gives the host country.
Land, power, guards, a local cover story was once all post colonial joy or NATO like anti Soviet deals, training and some basic intel sharing.
eg Cold war Sweden got some airborne elint but no UK/US like sharing/resources.
The problem with the local "citizens" is once the locals find out the steps the local rulers/politicians/military have to take to keep the secret again.
Britain's Embassy in Peking was looted by "protesters" in 1967 and lost its Rockex cypher equipment.
Iran, Ethiopia and Turkey (via TPLA and TPLF) where often at issue to further UK/US sites in the ~1960's (and other sites later during the Cold War).
ie the Cld War offered sigint facilities extreme secrecy.
Now nations offer other types of sites just to show how thankful they are:
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/cia-black-sites-lithuania/story?id=9400744
http://www.thejournal.ie/british-papers-reveal-interrogation-centre-in-derry-1023719-Aug2013/
"Secret British papers reveal secret 1970s interrogation centre in Derry"
Sites have many uses and can become news again years later. "subject to deep interrogation under the five techniques system the European Commission has called ‘torture’"

Yeah I hate Gore too. You forgot to mention drug addict.

FTFY... Well, one of them Gores anyhow...

Actually Twitter users are the saddest of all, except Facebook users and to the degree those two sets overlap you have a perfect storm of self centered sadness.

This is a complicating factor: China Admits Selling Prisoners’ Organs

When the state can profit from your death, safeguards are weak, and charges that can lead to a death sentence are a trivial problem....

I mean, a senator and high ranking official just lost their jobs because of ... wait for it ... $90,000 of questionable expenses. It was a huge deal and all over the news here. US government officials wipe their asses with that kind of money and nobody blinks.

Ted Stevens: "The prosecution charged that Stevens lied on his Senate financial disclosure forms, in effect concealing $250,000 worth of gifts and home renovations from a wealthy oilman, Bill Allen, and his oil services company, VECO.

During the trial Stevens defense lawyers argued that Stevens paid $160,000 for the home renovations and did nothing wrong."

That's a difference of $90,000.

The world is a big place with a lot happening.

China Admits Selling Prisoners’ Organs

And this is relevant to the current topic... exactly how?
(unless the topic is somehow the world's hypocritical pissing championship and I failed to see it as such).

The world is a big place with a lot happening.

China Admits Selling Prisoners’ Organs

As far as things being "stepped up a notch recently" ... that also applies to the massive theft of state secrets of multiple countries which are being distributed like party favours to one and all, including enemies and adversaries. (When you make something available without discrimination, your enemies and adversaries get it too.)

There are people out there just waiting to exploit that sort of information to slip by unnoticed: Al-Qaeda 'targeting European rail network'

Things will get figured out in some form eventually.

Your hypothetical scenarios are ridiculous at best as you seem to live in fear of "the bad guys". What would you suggest when police video mysteriously disappears, or when microphones are turned off? Tell me again who the bad guys are?

Calm down. Here's some panem et circenses.

More like a 30,000+ sworn persons at the NSA alone, not counting the 4 million+ currently holding Top Secret clearance. Not that any of these good people would ever dare abuse these privileges of course.

Hey, that reminds me. We should probably install surveillance cameras in the President's bedroom, bathrooms, daughters' bedrooms, etc. just in case he should break the law there. I mean, he probably won't break the law or do anything terrorist-related, but just to be safe I think we need to monitor, record, and save every aspect of his personal life (again, just in case). I'm sure he'll be perfectly cool with it, as long as it's entrusted to the noble men and women of the NSA.

We are in a die-off right now, many species are going extinct. Eagles would have just been another.

We are indeed in a mass extinction event, and it's man-made. You're for continuing to drive species to extinction.

No, laboratory pure. The current "thing" by the president is to shut down many coal-fueled power plants.

Shutting down coal-fired plants won't make the air "lab-pure", and I agree that as many as possible should be shut down. The city-owned power company has both old coal and newer natural gas generators, and they rarely use the coal-fired one because natural gas is so cheap right now. Gas is a whole lot better than coal. Save the coal for blacksmithing.

So, how many years of life do these people lose compared to the coal miners that were forced into poverty and the people who need electricity having to buy it at a higher price now?

Forced into poverty? No, lifted out of poverty.

But later, members of this tightly-knit West Virginia community said Athey's close call and the tragedy that has re-exposed the dangers of coal mining doesn't detract from the allure of a profession that is beloved here.

Athey, a 34 year-old father of four who has only donned a miner's helmet for two years, says he plans to return to work in a mine as soon as possible.

"It's the only thing I know how to do," he said. "I don't read and write."
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  "You can come right out of high school and make $70,000 a year," said Missy Perdue, 22, a stay-at-home mother whose husband, Jeff Perdue, Jr., 22, is a miner.

April Athey, 28, also says she appreciates her husband's salary, despite the risks of mining, so that she can stay at home and raise the couple's four kids, including one-year-old twins.

And that's clean enough.

Yes, I agree. The air is pretty clean most places today and I don't want to go back.

You're a fool.

That's another thing I hate about envirowackos, they're rude.

I apologize for my bluntness, but that's my opinion based on what you've written. You are full of misconceptions.

Also listening in on international aid workers plus phone sex calls of all kinds of people and passing them around for amusement value.

The other option of course being what we have in the USA that people simply die from lack of treatment.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/insurance-24-year-dies-toothache/story?id=14438171

Before you claim that man was stupid try to remember the pain he was in. No one makes good decisions in that kind of state.

Also in this case, the "random brat" that you don't care about was abducted after her mother and brother were burned to death.

story

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=98594&page=1 Tungsten composite if that was a serious question, but considering that you assumed radioactivity I am guessing you were trying to be snarky.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

Well, they can ban you for being too smart, so why not for being too dumb?

What would suck is if cats could communicate not just vocally, but also via cat posture semaphore in web video and imagery, and had developed a symbiotic virus that infects humans to enslave them to better communicate with each other.

I'm glad that could never happen.

they thought the target might be muslim and did not want to be accused of racism. If they'd known the family was non-muslim the story might have been different

http://abcnews.go.com/US/spanking-school-19-states-corporal-punishment-legal/story?id=15932135

"When did the "police state" cancel the vote?"

Didn't need to, the system controls the election process. This is why, by the time the last two presidential elections came about. The primaries to select candidates were determined by the time most of the country got to vote. Sure we got a choice of Obama vs McCain/Romney. But that is akin to the Soviets getting to vote for the two candidates they were given in the Communist party.

"When did the "police state" shut down shutdown the newspapers, radio, and TV stations?"

When it monitored and harassed the Associated Press. When it terrorized whistle blowers. When it made it uncomfortable to speak out about real issues about our government.

And for the most part, it doesn't need to because nearly ALL of our media is owned and controlled by a handful of men. Any mainstream reporter going against the grain is simply let go and finds that no major outlet will hire them.

"but actually shut down the newspapers, radio, and TV stations?"
I do not believe the Nazis nor the Soviets ever did this. They simply maintained influence over. And if you think that's not the case. You're not reading enough.

"When did the "police state" stop you from traveling without an internal passport?"
When they made me license my vehicle, and when they monitored it's travels. No, they don't need to stop me. They have an automated system that allows them to accomplish the same thing sans the need to stop. It's called TECHNOLOGY.

"When did the "police state" dismantle all of the political opposition parties and jail the leadership?"

They haven't needed to jail the leadership. Because the laws are written to make it almost impossible for political opposition parties to gain a foothold in the elective process. When they do, as in the case of Ron Paul winning massive amounts of delegates. The system simply breaks the laws. Knowing it is too costly, and ineffective to pursue a challenge through the court system.

"When did the "police state" suspend habeas corpus?"

What need is there to suspend it? When you have so many laws and willing courts to convict people on. One can argue it was suspended when people are thrown in jail for growing and trading orchids. And trumped up charges. Or when ANYONE who objects is automatically charged and sentenced to resisting arrest.

Police states do not necessarily absolve the judicial process.

"When did the "police state" start punishing people for wanting to leave the country?"

See the ex-patriate acts and other laws that restrict the removal of wealth from America. And there are many more being proposed.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/senators-to-unveil-the-ex-patriot-act-to-respond-to-facebooks-saverins-tax-scheme/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-01/wealthy-americans-queue-to-give-up-passports-in-swiss-capital.html

"When did the "police state" close the churches?"

Well, let's look at Iran and elsewhere. Where mosques are part of the police state. The existence of, or persecution against, churches is not a criteria for a police state.

But there is talk of removing tax exempt status.

"When did the "police state" start imprisoning people for criticizing the president? When did the "police state" start having people fired from their jobs for not supporting the government?"

What jobs?

"When did the "police state" stop using jury trials?"

Is Bradley Manning receiving a jury trial? Do we even know? It's secret....

"When did the "police state" start banning books?"
I think you assume that for a police state to exist, all requirements of past police states must exist.

But how about forbidding the U.S. military forces from viewing the UK News site th

If the paper is published then I am 100% sure that you will see actual car thefts; which is bad. But I would not be 100% sure that this isn't already happening. I recently watched a video where people were remotely opening new high-end cars to break into them. The video claimed that this was a new and unknown attack.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/car-thieves-tech-gadgets-baffle-police-18891078
This may or may not be the same attack but regardless open information that names and shames is critical not only to getting these companies to fix the problem but to be more vigilant about preventing this from ever happening. This prevention will be far less a problem for the car companies if some lawyer can just shut down their critics. To me this is little different than using a lawyer to silence someone from giving you a bad review using the argument that it might hurt sales. Using the argument that this is also protecting the consumer would still be like silencing the bad review if it were a "10 worst used cars to buy" review. That review too would hurt the consumer. The reality is that the consumer bought a car from a company that couldn't be bothered to properly secure their car.

I really really hope that now that the fact there is a problem will spur some other researchers to quickly identify the problem and I hope they release the details in full into the wild. My only hope is that they give full credit to the original and now censored researchers for their original work.

As for consumers being hurt; once proof is released that your car is susceptible to theft it is your fault if it gets stolen (in that you know asshat thieves want to steal your car) so it is your responsibility to prevent the theft. Previously you comfortably relied upon the built in security but just like if you found out that a bunch of thieves had a copy of the key to your front door you would change the lock. So this is when you either demand that the car company fix it or you go to a third party and get them to put in something cool and new. The problem is that you don't quite know what is broken and thus what needs fixing. The more information available the better.