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A slightly related (and interesting) article on the social ramifications of the BPO (Biz jargon for Business process outsourcing) can be read here.

A slightly related (and interesting) article on the social ramifications of the BPO (Biz jargon for Business process outsourcing) can be read here.

A slightly related (and interesting) article on the social ramifications of the BPO (Biz jargon for Business process outsourcing) can be read here.

A slightly related (and interesting) article on the social ramifications of the BPO (Biz jargon for Business process outsourcing) can be read here.

It is not downplayed in India. BPO jobs: Devil in sheep's clothing? Call centres put Indian mores on the hook

It is not downplayed in India. BPO jobs: Devil in sheep's clothing? Call centres put Indian mores on the hook

I have accounts with two banks in India - HSBC and ICICI Bank

HSBC does not even let me keep special characters in the password - it has to be from A-Za-z0-9. Once logged in, I can make inter-account transfers without having a second password.

On the other hand, ICICI Bank requires me to have a second password to make transactions. Not that it is any safer - for example, check this article.

"You can have president, senator, congressman, governor, state senator, state representative, mayor, sheriff, district attorney, judge, and other people to vote for."

Yes, but not in the same election! They may be on the same day, and even (if you have a paper-ballot) on the same voting sheet, but fundamentally what you are doing in most parts of the US is voting for one candidate over others for one office. Then another one candidate over others for another office...n

Plus in many parts of India there were more than one election held. For instance the sacking by the locals of the tech-savvy Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh, which may impact that state's ability to invest in infrastructure for the IT industry (or to put it another way, will probably help poor local farmers with free electricity).

I dont understand why everyone keeps calling this an "upset". We all know what a farce these exit polls are. Even Vajpai expected defeat in these elections.

We have direct deposit, direct withdrawal, speedpass systems, online billpay, etc etc etc. And I know several people in their early twenties who have filed or are currently in the process of filing, for bankruptcy.

Honestly, am I alone in wanting to make it more difficult for someone to take my money? I like making a conscious decision to pay for something. Lately I have stopped using debit/credit cards for daily purchases altogether. I give myself a certain amount of cash to spend during the month and keep it on my person. I can immediately tell how much money I have spent and have left. If I get mugged I can only lose that amount of cash, versus being led to an ATM machine and being forced to withdraw a large amount of money to give to the mugger. This has been happening somewhat frequently in my area recently and across the world at large. In many cases the victim has no way to reclaim the lost money.

Keeping money in a bank prevents it from being stolen from some third party, but it doesn't prevent the bank from stealing your money and holding it hostage. Banks make rediculous amounts of money from fees and charges for just accessing your cash. With almost zero interest on even the high interest checking and savings, it makes me want to get a safe and keep my cash locked away so as to hold onto more of it, or invest it in something that would generate more than the paisley sub-one-percent interest the banks like to give us during a time when interest rates on borrowed funds are fucking lower than ever .

Back to my point, is it seriously that hard to pay for things today? I mean its easy enough for someone to steal your identity, your credit history, your life.

Just got a Vaio for our President, one of the small ones

Was it Jimmy Carter? I'd guess James Madison, but he probably doesn't use computers.

Or is your President Kim Jong Il? Would he dare to use a Japanese computer? Wow, what a thought...

The FBI WANTED to investigate the Bin Ladens before the 9/11 attacks because they suspected a plot. However, Bush and his administration blocked the investigation for unknown reasons. A head FBI official even resigned because he was so frustrated that they couldn't investiage what they say clearly as troublesome activities.

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=103&row =0

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4 293682,00.html

http://www1.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/ar ticleshow?art_id=1030259305

http://dir.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/09/12/b ush/index.html

Don't blame the FBI for not investigating, blame the justice department and the higher ups.

This report seems to corroborate what you're saying, although its language is contradictory. Beyond the somewhat misleading headline, "EVMs make rigging easier," the body of the article finally says that stuffing ballot boxes is made more difficult, since only one person can cast one ballot at one time. Sure, one guy can leave, change his shirt and come back, claim another residence, and vote again. But to do it many times with hundreds of people is logistically improbable, thus narrowing the options for ballot-rigging.

Is your system set up to allow votes for people not listed i.e. write-ins or do you have to select 'only' from the list provided?

You have to select "only" from the list.

If you have to select from the list, can you withhold your vote on parts of the ballot because you don't like any of the candidates or does that invalidate the entire ballot?

If it were paper-based, you could just drop the blank ballot in the box. But with EVM you have to press a button.
The Election Commission of India is proposing Vote for nobody.

If every ticket cost $100, no plane would fly anywhere ever

Pharmaceuticals are the same way - if you want to make one you have to commit about $500 million - mostly in development costs - not pure research costs.

The times are changing, and the old companies need to keep up.

The conspiracy theorist in me thinks the Ruling Class wants the level of education to go down. Dumb people are more easily ruled and don't ask difficult questions, and accept statements like "outsourcing will fuel US job growth" as fact.

You're not the first to tell me that. :)

I know exactly what you're saying, because that's precisely the issue I've been tossing around in my mind for the last 3 years.

Here's the problem though: Economics is another data-driven major, just like accounting, finance, radiology, engineering, and so on. Again, the Internet has practically eliminated the transaction costs of transferring data. Predictably then, economics jobs are reportedly being offshored as well, though not at the same rate as IT. So, a BS in Econ. probably isn't the best route either. Regardless, without a Master's or PhD in Econ. and the tons of econometrics that come with that, there's really nothing terribly-useful one can do (except prepare taxes for people - a job that will ultimately be "outsourced" to software like TurboTax). Not that a master's in Econ. (or CS) would be out of the question for me, but I still don't see why that level of education should make any difference if the job is going overseas anyway.

How about IP law (given that you're a lawyer)? I've considered that since high school, half for the money, half because the issues surrounding Napster, open-source, privacy, battles like SCO v. IBM, etc. are inherently interesting. Trouble is, lawyers are getting their jobs are being offshored to a certain extent as well. Moreover, the number of applications submitted to law schools has increased by about 30% or more during this recessionary period, as is always the case during a recession... As if the legal profession wasn't crowded enough as it is...

Hardly IBM, since they seem to be rapidly converting themselves into good guys

Don't worry about that... There's a plot twist in Act III where once-villian-turned-good-guy indeed backstabs everyone with new hiring policies... Also look for the spin-off sequel movie, "Dude, Where's My Job?"

Bush is the least qualified President we have ever had

After checking the Wikipedia...
Kennedy - Bachelor's degree
Carter - Bachelor's degree
Reagan - Bachelor's degree
Bush I - Bachelor's degree
Clinton - Bachelors and JD
Bush II - Bachelors and MBA

Least qualified? Not by comparison to some other recent presidents.

His ties to Enron alone are enough to want him out.

Much of the Enron shenanigans were ongoing before he even took office. Clinton had some ties also. Would that have made you impeach Clinton too, or only Bush?

Bush squandered the greatest chance for peace in our time by calling all of the world "Evil"

It was 3 countries, and those countries are either state sponsors of terrorism, genocidal regimes, or rogue nations pursuing WMD. If that's not evil, I'd love to see how you define "good."

say a big fuck you to the world

Kerry supported it... No, Bush got tired of UN corruption and inaction, and going around the UN was arguably the right thing to do. Check out the latest dirt on the UN's "Oil for Pala^H^H^H^H Food" program.

think of America as a "play by its own rules" bully

If those "rules" include reining in WMD proliferators and demolishing terrorist states, screw the opposition; The Right Thing (TM) isn't always the easy or popular thing. If finding and killing terrorists before they can strike is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Not to mention the fact that he wants to hold Americans without trial or due process indefinitely

If they're terrorists, they have almost no rights. To be considered lawful combatants and thus entitled to the protection of the Geneva Convention, you must meet four conditions: have a responsible chain of command (autonomous terrorist "cells" don't qualify), carry weapons openly, have a distinctive uniform or insignia, and follow the laws of war... Al-Queda meets NONE of these (the commentary I cited above is interesting... I recommend reading it).

It's OK that you hate Bush... really.

Election Commission of India is proposing Vote for nobody in this election.

Any idea how many democracies in the world give this option to the voters?

Back in India I drank Kingfisher.. not had it in a while. Heard they do a mighty nice swimsuit special too!

Although the medical expertise and technology in India is not bad, there are some risks worth considering:

1. If a blood transfusion is required, be sure to consider autologous blood donation. India has reportedly taken steps to improve the quality of the blood supply however, it still draws on a population rampant with HIV, hepatitis, malaria, and various other blood born diseases. Remember, this is still a third world country.
2. Infection rates. They're much higher than in the west. Check out this recent bit of medical news:
3. Think about recovery. With a heavily taxed immune system, do you really want to face food and water born pests that make the most fit visitor to Mumbai extremely ill? On a recent trip, 5 out of 7 of my traveling companions fell ill. Yes we all drank bottled water (and yes we inspected the caps).

The saw bones may be cheaper over there but when your hide is on the line, don't forget to factor in the other risk factors.

... is running similar story here

You're right: what's the point of ridding a country from a vicious dictator who brutalizes his own population, destroys the environment, instigates war and supports terrorism unless you actually get some financial benefit from it?!?

No, you are right, we should do it because it is the right thing to do. So, when does the war against Bush begin?

Joking aside, most of the people who criticize Bush and the war are making just your point, though you seem to have missed it: We belive they started the war for their own financial benifit, not because of the goodness of their hearts. After all, they don't mind vicious dictators anywhere else.

BBC's High journalistic standards? You're joking, right?

I read about this in the local Denver paper a couple of days ago. Here's an article that describes a few bills, local and federal, that deal with the outsourcing trend. I'm not sure if these will pass in their current form. I have mixed feelings about them too. I've heard some good arguments both ways. If my state punishes outsourcers, it's likely when the trend changes, these companies will be located in California and other states. Mmmmmm. To be fair, I'd probably feel more strongly if my company had outsourced my job to India.

Bob Cringely has a good article on this as well, aptly titled "It's our own damn fault".

Also, from another perspective is this article from the India Times

Bob Cringely has a good article on this as well, aptly titled "It's our own damn fault".

Also, from another perspective is this article from the India Times

I am not saying, there won't be any problems in relocation, but rather that some of them may be due to stereotypes you have developed(in your case, seeing a wild tiger) and some could be ignored (seeing cows all around), if your job is challenging or satisfactory enough and you could manage to have a decent lifestyle.

Some links:
Myths about Indian Business women
Outside execs who have succeeded in India

I am not saying, there won't be any problems in relocation, but rather that some of them may be due to stereotypes you have developed(in your case, seeing a wild tiger) and some could be ignored (seeing cows all around), if your job is challenging or satisfactory enough and you could manage to have a decent lifestyle.

Some links:
Myths about Indian Business women
Outside execs who have succeeded in India

over the past six months inquiries have begun coming in from top-level and middle-level executives exploring job opportunities in top technology firms. This is in addition to regular middle-level and top-level management positions held by foreigners in multinational companies that have large operations here.

First of all notice he is talking about management positions. I would bet that this is more a response to the backlash in the U.S. to offshoring of jobs. Communication and project management between U.S. firms and Indian companies they contract with would be smoother if there are U.S. or British managers there to act as liasons. That takes some of the teeth out of the anti-offshoring peoples arguments. Indian companies will pay them handsomely if they have to to get those contracts.

Many of the inquiries are for jobs in foreign-based multinationals.

Foreign based multinationals can afford to pay the same for a manager in India as they can in the U.S. If they need an american manager in India then the multinational will pay whatever they need to attract an acceptable candidate. On a side note, multinational corporations have little nationalist loyalties. They exist to make their owners richer. If U.S. pollution laws got in their way they would have no compunction about moving a factory to Mexico. If the Mexicans tightened their pollution laws they would be just as happy to move it again to Guatemala. Welcome to globalization. Multinationals are not American companies or British companies or Indian companies. They headquarter wherever taxes are lowest (or even non-existent).

...large Indian companies... have started recruiting sales and marketing people in foreign markets. This has... acted as a push to look for jobs in India when the going at home gets tough.

Again we are not talking about tech jobs here but Sales and Marketing droids, er, executives. And if the large Indian company is paying X amount for someone in a foreign market then they can certainly pay that for the same work performed in India though possibly with a downward cost of living adjustment. Or maybe not because after all jetting home to London for the holidays is expensive and they need these particular foreign workers, just like they needed the Finnish call center workers.

The writer is a freelance journalist based in New Delhi.

I am not suggesting that the writer was not being truthful about anything only that he is writing from his local perspective. In other words, consider the source. But the impression the article gives is contradicted by this article in the India Times which suggests that Indians are currently looking for ways to circumvent the H1-B visa caps. The author was kind of vague about which foreigners are trying to find work there. Bangalore was mentioned in addition to the U.S. and Britain. So are places like Bangalore the main source of these refugee workers?

• Quality healthcare? (good enough that your leaders get treated in the damn country as opposed to wasting taxpayer money and scurrying to the US for medical treatment? I might add: lots of sorry India-originated Asses there too!) Or is world-class healthcare the right of India's top 0.1% only?
  
  
• Good education for their kids? India's education system is a purgatory: great talent filtration but little teaching. Of course, with the crowds you have this is acceptable.
  
  
• Higher education? little innovative work, and what innovation happens is mostly "cost innovation" -- a ceaseless struggle to "optimize" generally available tech to suit "deshi" budgets: Simputer, Cordect. No wonder *good* IITians sneer at doing graduate school there.
  
  
• Somewhat less seriously - a BMW Series 5? Surely the 44X people should be able to afford it? Why do they keep driving stuff like the Hyundai Accent and the Corolla (rock bottom cars here?)
  

If they're doing it so much better then why are companies like Dell bringing support back to the U.S. because so many customers couldn't understand tech support? India denies it. How about the companies who can't get their I.T. dept to be productive because some guy overseas is reading from a script when they have pc problems? How about the fact I lost my home & my credit will be shot to hell til I'm 40?

Have you tried? Many people are trying, and I personally have met several foreigners working in India, some for decades and in fields far removed from software. Anyway, it's not that easy to get a work visa in the US and it's getting harder.

and even if we could, it would be for 1/6th of what a programmer would make here!

But you can live on 1/10th what you can here in the US. So it looks like a good deal to me.

It's only a matter of time before an Indian will represent you in court. West, a big law book company, is starting to outsource legal writers to india.

it's still on the agenda.

a trans-afghan pipeline has been encouraged by the us for years preceding the latest invasion of the country. it may never be built, but it is still being pushed by the US. There has been news trickling in fairly steadily in the past two months about this. eg from times of india jan 12

the kazakhs HAVE a good deal of oil/gas - it needs to get south and west. maybe you're referring to the BTC pipeline project that replaced the first trans-afghan pipeline plan.

the idea put forth by the "conspiracy nuts" is that the US had an interest in occupying the region because their presence means they can fund and participate in the installation of new export infrastructure (like the BTC, in which US-based Unocal is involved). The war in Afghanistan meant bases in neighboring countries like Uzbekistan, Pakistan, and Kyrgyzstan, which allows for a permanent regional presence.

it doesn't really matter where the pipeline runs -the US couldn't have participated as easily if it hadn't established a presence.

maybe the conspiracy nuts should hold off on the apologies after unocal donates a portion of their profits to the poverty and war-stricken afghan people, or towards the all-too-modest $160 million reconstruction plan. (To put this into perspective: this doesn't even approach the size of the defecits some of the US' state budgets run).

Software giant threatens mikerowesoftZDNet.co.uk,UK-8 minutes agoMicrosoft has set its lawyers onto a 17-year-old software writer from Vancouver, called Mike Rowe, because he has registered MikeRoweSoft.com, which the

Microsoft not pleased about mikerowesoft websiteAnanova,UK-3 hours agoA Canadian teenager called Mike Rowe who added the word soft to his name for his website title, has been ordered by Microsoft to hand over the domain.

Microsoft won't go soft on Mike RoweLondon Free Press,Canada-4 hours agoVANCOUVER -- Like any good fledgling businessperson, Mike Rowe knew

Microsoft lawyers threaten Mike Rowe (17)The Register,UK-5 hours agoIn what could easily be mistaken for an Onion story, Microsoft has unleashed the full fury of its lawyers on 17-year-old Canadian high-school student, Mike Rowe

Mike may be Rowe, but 'soft' is troubleSeattle Times,WA-7 hours agoBy The Associated Press. VANCOUVER, BC - Mike Rowe knew he needed a catchy name for his Web-site design company. But the folks

Big bully Gates targets teenTimes of India,India-8 hours agoVANCOUVER: No matter what Shakespeare said on the theme of nomenclature, Microsoft has thought it fit to sue a teenager whose domain name is a lot like the

Microsoft vs MikeRoweSoftIndependent Online,South Africa-10 hours agoVancouver, British Columbia - Mike Rowe thinks it's funny that his catchy name for a website design company sounds a lot like Microsoft.

Microsoft takes on teenNEWS.com.au,Australia-10 hours agoMIKE Rowe thinks it is funny that his catchy name for a Web site design company sounds a lot like Microsoft. "Since my name is Mike

Langford student battles tech giant over use of his domain name: Canada.com,Canada-Jan 17, 2004Mike Rowe, a Langford high school student who does Web site design part-time, is locked in a legal battle with one of the world's biggest companies.

Microsoft vs. Mike Rowe SoftWIS,SC-47 minutes ago(Vancouver, British Columbia-AP) Jan. 19, 2004 - It's Microsoft versus Mike Rowe-soft. Mike Rowe, 17, wanted a catchy name for his Web site design company.

Support CD Babyp2pnet.net,Canada-1 hour agoBecause Mike, who lives in Victoria on Vancouver Island in British Columbia, Canada (and a short drive from p2pnet.net's thriving central base : ) makes a

Microsoft Talk Legal to 17 Year-Old Owner of MikeRoweSoft DomainShortNews.com-2 hours agoMike Rowe, 17, from British Columbia, Canada decided to start up a small web business and called his domain MikeRoweSoft. Smart

Microsoft Corporation vs MikeRoweSoftOfficialSpin-3 hours agoVictoria, British Columbia -- (OfficialSpin) -- 19/01/04 -- A 17 year-old high school student, Mike Rowe, who just so happens to earn a few extra bucks...

Microsoft demands teen to give up domain nameSalem Statesman Journal,OR-7 hours agoVANCOUVER, British Columbia - Mike Rowe knew that he needed

but their customers are bloody stupid when they are suckers for "penis patches", "bigger breast" and "everlasting erections"....?

Britons buying fake Viagra.

because technology companies lose their capacity to innovate.

How des one measure this capacity to innovate ? If one goes by the number of patents - the above arguement may not be valid at all. See this article about patents from India

In fact the increased number of patents from some research labs located in India may be one of the reasons for the trend of several US/EU companies setting up research labs in India.

a leading Indian Business daily newspaper The Econmictimes has an article that quotes a dell spokesman as having said "Dell has no plans to scale back resources at the Bangalore call center or change employment plans in the United States, although he would not comment on specifics."

Is there a special prize for 1st post and karma whore in one?

Here goes my entry:

These folks are some of the same great people who are supposed to be working for you anyway, plus a smattering of teenagers too young to work at Redmond, hackers, virus creators, and a menagerie of others with whom you will feel great pride in entrusting your IT infrastructure.

Tridge (defined here and here), the smartest man in Australian IT, obviously qualifies and Bill Gates does not (except in his own humble eyes). The only problem remaining is, where does Tridge fit in Howard's categories? Is he your employee? No. Is he a teenager, albeit a smattered one? Not for a long time, to Susan's immense relief. I must mention in defense of teenagers, though, that at least one well-known project has been managed by a 13-year-old, and managed well. A hacker? Since Howard evidently means "cracker", that's a resounding "no". Virus creators? No, although I'm sure SaMBa has transported and safely stored quite a few viruses in its day. I guess he fits in "menagerie of others", which is to say, no category at all. I could run up a list of another hundred or so such people in one day.

Not to put too fine a point on it, Howard Strauss is talking out of his rear, so has evidently forgotten that magic rule: "'tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

Since Novell purchased us 3 months ago, we have increased our investment in all of our products, using Novell's resources. And we've been aggressive about driving open source and Linux throughout the company.

Here's a little evidence, all postdating the acquisition by Novell:

- My notes on our new desktop development center in Bangalore
- An article from the Times of India about our new developers there
- The freshly-published (today!) Mono Roadmap showing where we're going with the development platform
- The first entry in our new Evolution blog, describing the plans for Evolution 2.0, to be released early next year
- The announcement and wiki for the Brooklyn GNOME developer's summit we are sponsoring this month
- The announcement that our Exchange connector now supports Exchange 2003

And this is really just the beginning. As you can imagine, most of the super exciting stuff we are doing is behind the scenes.

From time to time since we were acquired three months ago I've heard people say things like "Novell bought Ximian just for XYZ," where XYZ has been either: Mono, our Exchange 2000 connector, GNOME, Evolution, Red Carpet, "the name," ...

I think it should be clear that this is ridiculous.

Yes, we will still support KDE on SuSE. However, we hope to use this opportunity to provide Linux developers and ISVs with a single stable platform for desktop application development.

Yes, we will keep the desktop distro free. We will even make things more free than they have been.

We're only just getting started. Stay tuned.

and which team would that be? I know it's not this one. Start downloading your new wallpapers

article on new group in India
Nat's blog entry about his visit to India

Novell didn't spend $40 million on Ximian for Connector alone. And they aren't training 40 new developers to work on Open Office, Mozilla, GNOME, and Mono just so they have a client to connect to their server products.

As far as Allocating resources for more desktop development, they already have. They formed a group in india specifically to forward Linux desktop developement.

Here is the article I where I read it: indiatimes.com. Here is a blerb, "This probably could be the first single largest Linux development centre of any MNC in India"

Really? What do you think these laid-off chip designers are gonna do when they get back to Chennai? Sell trinkets to tourists?

MYTH #3: "R&D jobs don't go overseas. Hell, they don't even leave the US east and west coast, for the most part."

REALITY:

• GE Corporate Research in Bangalore and Shanghai
• HP Opens New Research Center in Singapore
• HP Bangalore Research
• IBM India Research Center
• IBM China Research Center
• Microsoft Research Beijing

Per nasscom.org, "A recent study on the biotech market by business intelligence firm, Ernst & Young, has shown that India has the potential to become a leading hub of biotech projects. Indian companies have the capability to enter segments such as manufacturing biogenerics, contract research services, clinical trials and even areas such as bio-informatics."

MYTH #5: "Ultimately, what xenophobes need to realize is that writing shitty code doesn't make anyone "high-tech." You're no more entitled to an inflated salary than the auto workers who saw their work moved overseas - if someone with no education can do your job cheaper, you don't deserve your job."

"Accenture in India has also been moving into front office work such as doing clinical data management for its pharma clients. Accenture's pharma team here, which consists of doctors, dentists and biologists, analyses data from tests and helps its pharma client to gain `time-to-market' advantage. "Normally, for a BPO, back office activities are the target, but we are beginning to spot opportunities in front office activities as well," Cole said."

You forgot to make it usable: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/un comp/articleshow?msid=249648

Really? What do you think these laid-off chip designers are gonna do when they get back to Chennai? Sell trinkets to tourists?

MYTH #3: "R&D jobs don't go overseas. Hell, they don't even leave the US east and west coast, for the most part."

REALITY:

• GE Corporate Research in Bangalore and Shanghai
• HP Opens New Research Center in Singapore
• HP Bangalore Research
• IBM India Research Center
• IBM China Research Center
• Microsoft Research Beijing

REALITY: Per nasscom.org, "A recent study on the biotech market by business intelligence firm, Ernst & Young, has shown that India has the potential to become a leading hub of biotech projects. Indian companies have the capability to enter segments such as manufacturing biogenerics, contract research services, clinical trials and even areas such as bio-informatics."

MYTH #5: "Ultimately, what xenophobes need to realize is that writing shitty code doesn't make anyone "high-tech." You're no more entitled to an inflated salary than the auto workers who saw their work moved overseas - if someone with no education can do your job cheaper, you don't deserve your job."

REALITY: "Accenture in India has also been moving into front office work such as doing clinical data management for its pharma clients. Accenture's pharma team here, which consists of doctors, dentists and biologists, analyses data from tests and helps its pharma client to gain `time-to-market' advantage. "Normally, for a BPO, back office activities are the target, but we are beginning to spot opportunities in front office activities as well," Cole said."

Really? What do you think these laid-off chip designers are gonna do when they get back to Chennai? Sell trinkets to tourists?

MYTH #3: "R&D jobs don't go overseas. Hell, they don't even leave the US east and west coast, for the most part."

REALITY:

• GE Corporate Research in Bangalore and Shanghai
• HP Opens New Research Center in Singapore
• HP Bangalore Research
• IBM India Research Center
• IBM China Research Center
• Microsoft Research Beijing

Per nasscom.org, "A recent study on the biotech market by business intelligence firm, Ernst & Young, has shown that India has the potential to become a leading hub of biotech projects. Indian companies have the capability to enter segments such as manufacturing biogenerics, contract research services, clinical trials and even areas such as bio-informatics."

MYTH #5: "Ultimately, what xenophobes need to realize is that writing shitty code doesn't make anyone "high-tech." You're no more entitled to an inflated salary than the auto workers who saw their work moved overseas - if someone with no education can do your job cheaper, you don't deserve your job."

"Accenture in India has also been moving into front office work such as doing clinical data management for its pharma clients. Accenture's pharma team here, which consists of doctors, dentists and biologists, analyses data from tests and helps its pharma client to gain `time-to-market' advantage. "Normally, for a BPO, back office activities are the target, but we are beginning to spot opportunities in front office activities as well," Cole said."

• Hillary Clinton doesn't just stand idly by...she actively works to offshore American High-Tech!
• George Bush doesn't just stand idly by...he actively works to offshore American High-Tech!
• Accused terrorist Maher "Mike" Hawash earned $357K in 2000 and $184K in 2001 which is a fuckload more than you'll ever see now that American High-Tech is being shipped to India!