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Polygamy is often associated with religions

The problem is polygamy is confused with polygyny.

Falcon

Anyway you look at it, a society where men do not have access to women (or vice versa), for whatever reason, is fsked up. Polygamy is one reason.

You're wrong. Polygamy would allow every man to have a wife, under polygamy a woman would be able to have more than one husband.

But then consider other reasons like female infanticide in India and China and you have a serious problem going forward that is as bad as polygamy.

Infanticide in China and India is as bad as polygyny not polygamy.

Falcon

I think that this study needs a lot more work. As others have observed, they're only sampling men who have already lived past 60, and of those who are polygamous

I think what's wrong with the study was that it looked at polygyny not polygamy.

Falcon

because polygamy "contributes" to violence - and I think it does

How so? Maybe you, like most people, make the mistake of thinking polygyny is polygamy. However unlike polygyny, where a man has more than one wife, in polygamy both men and women can have more than one spouse.

My claim is not really all that strong - I'm mostly just answering the fellow who asserted that polygamy is "beneficial for all those involved". I'm pretty convinced that it isn't.

Polygyny may not be beneficial to all but polygamy certainly can be.

Falcon

I met a gentleman who claimed to have 13 wife back home in Africa, in his version of polygamy, Number One Wife basically ruled the family with an iron fist. She decided which wife did which tasks and who got to visit the husbands quarters and when. Any wife that offended Number One was in for a world of misery. Overall Polygamy didn't sound like fun for anyone except Number One Wife; like in many cultures, what is displayed in public is different from what happens behind closed doors.

Sorry but that's not polygamy, what that is is polygyny. Polygamy is when a person, male or female, can have more than one spouse. When a man has more than one wife that's polygyny. And when a woman has more than one spouse that's polyandry.

I was concerned TFA would make the same mistake but it doesn't go that far, unlike the mass media coverage of that Mormon sect. And it links to another "New Scientist" article "Love unlimited: The polyamorists" where both men and women have more than one partner.

Falcon

Ah yes, that's why small farmers can't compete. It doesn't have anything to do with economies of scale, no sir.

If economies of scale was all that mattered then large scale farms wouldn't need subsidies.

If they a get employment with a private company good for them. And with government out of medical and health care more jobs with private insurers will be created.

Again, the only way we'd end up with "more jobs" is if the system became less efficient as a result.

So what if private insurers didn't employ as many people as government run insurance, private is as you say more efficient. Employing more people to run insurance is just make work work, and taxpayers will have to pay those salaries. People complain about the expense of health care, employing less people, in insurance, reduces the cost. If you want to make more work then employ more medical people not more insurance people.

it's odd that you're championing a move toward inefficiency.

What's odd is that you first intimated private insurance would be more efficient, the only way we'd end up with "more jobs" is if the system became less efficient as a result, now you're saying the opposite. And no I don't champion inefficiency, I champion competition. and competition increases efficiency.

People already can do that. You know why they don't? Because HSAs are pointless unless you're either (1) healthy enough that you won't get sick before the account is full, or (2) wealthy enough that it doesn't matter.

But do they know that? I didn't find out until earlier this year when someone else posted about health saving accounts. I bet I can go out on the street and ask others if they know about them and many won't. But you are right in one thing, according to the Government Acconting Office, GAO, the average income of those who had HSAs in 2005 was $139,000 whereas the average for those without one was $57,000. But in the same report though it said lower income people are more wiling to gamble with their health. And as far as I'm concerned, you gamble you pay. You don't gamble then try to get out of it when you lose.

See, "bankrupt" means there's no money left to pay their obligations, but that's not going to happen any time soon

First, bankrupt means more than just not having enough money. It also means a person who is completely lacking in a particular desirable quality or attribute moral bankrupt[cy] or DISAPPROVING lacking in a particular quality, Onelook has more. Second I consider it morally bankrupt, see the first two definitions above, for anyone to be forced to work to pay for anyone they did not bring into the world themself, ie you are responsible to take care of all of the children you bring into the world but you have no responsibility to take care of anyone else.

As I don't want to keep going over this with you I'll just say one more thing then I'll end my part. You trust government more than business and I distrust business less than I do government. Government has caused more problems than any business, it has killed more people than any of them as well. And many of the problems business has made government allowed to happen.

Falcon

The US isn't totally fascist - yet. But the gov't sure is working on making it so.

We currently have our emails read, our phones are wiretapped without warrants, habeas corpus has been revoked for non-citizens, U.S. citizens could be tossed into Gitmo if they're deemed a terrorist. Waterboarding was a reason to execute a few japanese in WW2 for crimes against humanity but we say it's not torture.

Oh yeah, let's not forget about the executive branch failing to follow the laws such as the Federal Records Act, Our Energy policy was set in secret - we don't even know who attended the meeting. Let's not forget that Bush and Cheney's friends have made untold millions off the latest war.

"This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience ... In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic process." -- President Dwight Eisenhower, farewell speech to the nation, January 17, 1961

A more fascist gov't makes it easier to make money and gain power for those in control and that's what we're seeing. No tin foil hat needed for such blatant examples.

One of these things in the cargo hold can lead to things like this.

iPod Nano

Chemical oxygen generator

Please stop trying to tell me that these two items have an equivalent risk of causing a fire in flight. I wasn't aware I looked that stupid.

Naah. Society has lost it's mind when it comes to children, period. There's some sort of popular myth that started with the Baby Boomer generation that children need to be protected from everything. I'm not saying that sexual abuse of a child is ever right, but I'm saying that we have come to hold this purported "innocence" as sacrosanct, much to the detriment of society in general, as we have raised a generation of kids unable to deal with even getting a job on their own. The sooner we realize that kids don't need coddled, and need to be educated, this shit will go away by itself for a large part.

I'd love to post this signed in, but I'm afraid that in the current climate, people will start hunting me down as some kind of pedophile (which is the new version of the word "witch", "commie", or "fag", depending on what era you're from). An unassailable accusation that you have no hope in hell of defending yourself against, even if there is no truth to it.

How is Obama replacing 5 million barrels a day tomorrow? Tuneups and inflating tires? McCain has made it pretty clear he is for all alternative fuel source AND drilling. With the inelastic nature of oil, any increase in the supply will lower prices and drastically. T Boone Pickens by the way is not a green guy, he is just for reducing the burden of foreign oil. He is also for off shore drilling, shale production and ANWR drilling. There is no reason we can't do everything. If we started drilling tomorrow there will be some online in 2-3 years, the democratic talking point is 10 years+ but that would be for all 100%. I am all for getting off oil but the simple fact is that it cannot happen overnight, but in the interim, there is no reason to be sending so much money out of this country.

Again, you make fun of simple things like Tuneups and properly inflating tires BEFORE ACTUALLY READING A DAMN THING ABOUT IT.

While it wouldn't maybe help the INDIVIDUAL very much, the ENTIRE COUNTRY would benefit a decent amount.

In fact, if the ENTIRE COUNTRY did these LITTLE things, we could WITHOUT A DOUBT save the same amount of Oil McCain's 'Day Dream' of offshore drilling MIGHT produce 10 YEARS from now.

I'm afraid the same holds true for ANWR. I'm not super concerned about the envirnment up there because I don't think the handful of wells that would be drilled would hurt anything, BUT it wouldn't help us either.

It would certainly help the Oil Companies who could pull the oil out of the ground for PENNIES and sell it for top dollar.

For those who don't know, Oil is priced based on GLOBAL markets, not production cost. SO drilling in the Continental United States is a sweet proposition for Oil Companies because they can pull it out of the ground for nothing but the production costs, BUT CHARGE LIKE THEY BOUGHT IT OVERSEAS.

As long as a SINGLE barrel of oil comes from outside the United States, ALL OIL PRODUCED IN THE UNITED STATES WILL COST PRETTY MUCH THE SAME regardless of the production costs.

Speculators have driven the price up some, but not nearly as much as people blame on them. Besides, speculation has its purpose. Speculation is why you can lock in a price for heating oil NOW, and KNOW FOR CERTAINTY what you will be paying this winter.

This goes the same for McCain's ludicrous 'Gas Tax Holiday'. If you remove the Federal Gas tax (which is less than 25Â for gasoline), then gasoline distributors will simply raise their prices by the EXACT amount removed. There is nothing in the law to prevent this, accept a few, older, arcane price fixing rules that would be IMPOSSIBLE to prove.

All John McCain would have done (if the Democratic Congress hadn't stopped him) is robbed the Highway Department of revenue needed to maintain the countries road system.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26222711/

Many Catholics have left the Church and then cited their morals as being different - explicitly so.

Sure, but many lapsed Catholics still have a personal set of morals which is largely based on the Judeo-Christian tradition found in the Bible. Even if they reject certain tenets of Catholicism on things like abortion, ordained women, homosexuality, etc. they still believe in heaven, hell, Jesus, etc. There are some who completely reject the Judeo-Christian faiths and become atheists, agnostics, or Deists, and turn to secular humanism. But many just reject the authority of Rome or their local priest (or preacher/rabbi/mullah etc. for other denominations) and specific policy decisions handed down by the papal office and work out their own interpretation of the Bible. Those "heretics" in effect are still using a set of rules created by an oligarchy, that of the early church leaders who decided which gospels made it into the official version, even if they perform their own customized interpretation and filtering on the results. Thus I would say that I disagree with your affirmation.

The root is in the emotions, not the source.

Often the source remains the same, the only difference is that some people notice the more egregious portions of the self-interested additions supported by the oligarchy and reject those because they find them inconsistent with the changing environment. But the same people will still continue to accept the less extreme inconsistencies in the moral system that they have been indoctrinated with. The emotions arise after noticing the inconsistency, even if the process of noticing happens subconsciously. The emotions come from the internal conflict between the recognition of the inconsistency and the denial of that recognition by the "moral" conditioning.

If your morals are strongly influenced or based on your community's, and the largest portion of that community follows the precept of a particular religious leader or group, then your "morals" are still religiously based, even if it's secondhand. If your morals are derived from philosophical examination of base principles, like secular humanism for instance, then I would argue that what you have is an ethical system, not a moral one. So while you may not have influence in imposing your morals, this I think supports my argument that some people have no problems imposing their morals on others if they can convince enough people to adopt their moral system.

I guess it depends on what you consider to be part of your moral system. One dictionary definition is:

"Rules or habits of conduct, especially of sexual conduct, with reference to standards of right and wrong"

Now to me, most of those "standards of right and wrong" are based on religious sources. Ethical decisions are more nuanced because they can vary based on the individual situations and participants, and the probable outcomes for participants from behaviours and actions. They tend to coincide on many issues like "thou shalt not kill" and "thou shalt not steal" because the negative outcomes are very consistent across the majority of situations.

However they can diverge in some situations when conditions have changed due to modern capabilities such as prophylactics and contraceptives, statistical social science studies tracking the relative development of wanted and unwanted children, and the force projection and kill ratios of nuclear warfare.

Golf cart manufacturers are responding to the demand for EVs by creating a new class of "leisure" carts with turn signals and breaklights designed for the whole family. Local govs are starting to alter traffic laws to allow them on the roads or in special lanes.

It wasn't 20 years ago when we hadn't detected another planet yet and we didn't know if planets formed around other stars. Now we know they are common, but the ones we detect are large and close to the sun. There's a reason for this: the method we use to detect extrasolar planets works by detecting the gravitational tug between the planet and star by the changing of the star's luminosity over time. If there's a 72 hour cycle where the star dims and brightens, then we know there is a planet in a 3-day orbit around the star. We know how far from the star it is by using the orbital period and the mass of the star. We know the mass by how much the star's luminosity is affected.

There is noise in the observations caused by regular luminosity changes in the star, like from sunspots. The larger and closer the planet to the star, the bigger the change in luminosity and the easier it is to separate that signal from the noise. Also the closer planets give more data to work with. If the star has a 72 hour orbit, you will be able to see a complete cycle every three days. If the planet is like Jupiter, it could be 5 AU from the sun and have an orbital period of 12 years.

Their entire reasoning appears to be based on the assumption that a body the size of these 'hot Jupiters' couldn't form that close to the star because the solar wind would drive the gas away. If that were truly the case, then a star couldn't form at all because the solar wind would drive all of its gases away. If the main gas for the planet accumulates prior to solar ignition then there isn't a problem. This new survey only looked for super-Jupiters that are 5 or more times the size of Jupiter, and that are twice as far away from their star as Jupiter is from Sol. The thing is that if a planet gets to be about 13 times the size of Jupiter then it starts to fuse deuterium and becomes a star. We have found many binary stars that would meet the criteria sought, but that don't count because the mass of the "planet" was too big and it became a star.

These are great questions to ask, but I don't know why the media portrays it as such a surprise that things can be like our solar system. Is anyone really surprised that we found water on Mars? Earth has plentiful water, comets are mostly water, Cassini observed water geysers on Saturn's moon Enceladus. Water is simply the combination of the first and third most plentiful elements in our universe, and the second most plentiful element doesn't chemically bond. Water should be the most abundant molecule in the universe after H2.

This article is a good example. It seems to claim that a solar system would need a planet like Jupiter for there to be life. In one paragraph they say that Jupiter prevents the inner planets from being bombarded by too many space rocks, and in the very next paragraph it says Jupiter perturbs the orbit of space rocks to make them hit Earth, seeding it with water and organic molecules. We don't know enough about formation of planetary systems to say that one would need a Jupiter-like planet for life to form. It sounds like the people that claimed 20 years ago that planetary systems would be very rare before we found our first extrasolar planet (we've found hundreds now).

I'd like to see the whole paper and look at their models. I'd like to know what would cause a planet that formed over millions of years in the outer solar system to move in closer to the star. When it forms, it has an orbital velocity relative to the center of gravity of the system. In order to migrate closer to the star, some other massive object would have to slow it down, wouldn't it?

Ivins was at least as smart as Lisa Nowak, who planned her crime attempt meticulously. Sure, people laughed about her using adult diapers,

Yet another case of the media hyping a false report.
The diapers were BABY diapers, in a box in the backseat of her car left over from a hurricane evacuation a few years prior. No way they would fit an adult woman, even one who was air force fit.

oh, the humanity

The Olympics can only happen the way that they do because advertisers are willing to pay MegaBucks to the host city for the privilege of becoming an official sponsor, because tourists will flock in droves, and for a million other reasons that essentially center around the fact that the Olympics are a rather limited and exclusive event.

You hold it every month and you dilute the brand value.

It might be that sponsors for future Olympics may not be so enthustic.

So to extend that out as a comparisson between China and the US, the level of corruption in China is far greater since it has become a corporate fascist state

At least in China they make a show of punishing corruption--they execute the perpetrators.

When's the last time an American official was jailed for corruption, let alone executed?

Man, I had a teacher who thought breaks were evil.

That's OK, the whole state of California almost outlawed water for being evil!

What's really painful is that there are two ways they do this:

#1 - steal a SSN
#2 - make up an SSN (which usually results in a data-collision with whoever's SSN it is).

Now what REALLY makes this painful is that by "privacy" laws, your bank can see that someone else is using your SSN for accounts elsewhere... but they aren't allowed to tell you and if you try to pull your own credit report, the credit agencies won't tell you either.

The end result? A nightmare like this when the illegal who stole your SSN skips town on one of his bills, or else you apply for a job only to find out the thief works for the company somewhere else...

All the downmodders don't like hearing about it. Guess what? I had to deal with this myself when my SSN was stolen - from student application paperwork to UCLA - and 8 years later UCLA started sending debt collectors after ME demanding that I pay for the education of the illegals who'd taken out student loans using my SSN.

Those who modded my response on the impact of illegals on America "offtopic" may prefer to bury their heads in the "open borders" sand, but I don't have that luxury. I've already been fucked once and I'll be damned if I let them do it again.

There isn't a shortage at all, in any industry - if you're willing to pay a fair and competitive wage.

This is true in IT, true in agriculture, true in housing, true anywhere.

Where the US worker is getting fucked over is by countries that lack our labor protections and environmental protections, that treat their people like slaves, who then sell "services" to fat-cat CEOs and undercut what ought to be a fair market wage. And of course, this actually amounts to the real inflation we've been feeling for years - instead of monetary, we get shit for services when jobs are moved to third-world crap countries.

Bought a new home and found that all sorts of repairs - roofing, supports, improperly laid foundation - were needed? Congratulations. An illegal mexican built your house, and you paid the price: money out of YOUR pocket on repairs, plus YOUR inflated tax bill to pay for his illegal family's medical bills in the emergency room, his anchor baby's birth in the local hospital, his illegal kids' schooling (stealing directly from YOUR kid's education), the crimes committed by his illegal friends and his kids in gangs, and of course the fact that HE and HIS ILLEGAL FAMILY are stealing someone's social security number to run up debt in their name.

The person whose SSN he stole, who will have their lives and credit ruined when he skips out on the bills later? Congratulations - that could be YOU or YOUR kid. The kid killed by his friends or his kids in gangs? Congratulations - that could be YOUR friend or family member.

Tried to call tech support any time in the past few years? Got nothing but idiot Indians with accents thick enough to strangle a moose and who can't actually address the problem, just keep yammering from a script? Congratulations, you're a victim of this.

They're wasting your time, and giving you substandard service. Oftentimes, I call in for a warranty only to run into the cultural problem that the indians don't understand what a warranty is or, worse yet, they are simply instructed to ignore the warranty terms. And forget asking for a supervisor - they just hand you off to someone else from the cubicle next to them, who then hangs up. Getting their name? Good luck - they all give lying fake names, to avoid someone actually managing to complain about them specifically should someone get to the person in the US who's supposed to check up on customer service.

Similarly, instead of being able to get a human (or substandard indian variant thereof) at all, I usually spend 20 minutes on hold with a looped tape of "you can get self service on our website"... well guess what sherlock, if your website was any good, if my question was actually answered, I wouldn't be on the phone calling.

But remember - "open borders" and "free trade" are good things. And you can keep repeating that to yourself as YOUR job gets shipped out to trash heap india, communist china or mexshithole.

China foes in House deploy Nazi analog
Harry Wu Exposes China's Nazi-like Genocide
Google returns about 3,710,000 results like this.

Just thought you might like to know that you aren't the only Nazis around.

If you think YOU'RE a slave, try working in a iPod factory in China for a while. And be glad Apple at least hasn't outsourced you....yet.

It's OK. The increase in hurricane activity due to global warming will offset the negative effects of the increased nitrates.

It was only this year that international tourists to the US were at the levels seen before 9111, from the AP: "The number of international tourists visiting America should exceed pre-Sept. 11 levels this year for the first time since terrorist attacks crippled the travel industry, U.S. Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez said Friday." Notice it says "should" not does or did. Elsewhere: "Tourists skipping US sites", dated 5 July 2008 and "U.S. share of foreign tourists slipping, travel experts say" dated one day later.

Falcon

It's quite sad that Apple feels the need to steal the name of animals for their company. A simple Google search reveals there's already a Leopard. The company Steve wants to buy reveals the same thing. Even MSN knows about it, so Live Search isn't left out.
How about a little due diligence, Apple? Or is the plan to just lie, cheat, steal, and discredit mammal opponents in the eyes of CIOs and the press? What about the new, nicer, more open Apple we keep hearing about? Is that just more underhanded marketing building on the goodwill of truly open companies?

It's quite sad that Microsoft feels the need to steal the name of an existing browser for their new browser-based project. A simple Google search reveals there's already a Midori browser. The company Steve wants to buy reveals the same thing. Even MSN knows about it, so Live Search isn't left out.

Transmeta even had a Linux distribution meant for Internet appliances called -- you guessed it -- Midori.

How about a little due diligence, Microsoft? Or is the plan to just lie, cheat, steal, and discredit credit-worthy opponents in the eyes of CIOs and the press? What about the new, nicer, more open Microsoft we keep hearing about? Is that just more underhanded marketing building on the goodwill of truly open companies?

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/196359.aspx .. hmm I used a href first time sorry

the biggest problem is that it's very expensive to buy sufficient panels to generate 1000W of power

It depends on what you consider expensive. Five Sharp 224W Solar Panels, each costing $1200, would cost $6000 and generate more than 1000W.

The biggest problem with solar power is that we can't generate enough power and not the fact that we can't store it.

Do you know more than those who write for SciAm? SciAm published an article, "A Solar Grand Plan", detailing how the US can produce "69 percent of the U.S.'s electricity and 35 percent of its total energy (which includes transportation) with solar power by 2050." Potential wind power is even greater. The Rocky Mountains from Canada to Texas alone, Oilman and Billionaire T. Boone Pickens is proposing this, has enough potential wind energy to provide the US with electricity. Actually his plan is for independence from imported oil. Use of the wind would allow natural gas fueled power plants to be closed then the gas coulf be used as vehicle fuel.

Falcon

Is anyone reporting on the fact that the US Congress has only a 14% job approval rating while Bush is at least above 25%? No? I wonder why - maybe it doesn't fit the biased story the MSM wants to portray.

Here's a Reuters story about it. Here's an ABC News story. Here's an MSNBC story. All from the first page of a Google search. Are those mainstream enough for you?

The Senate's rules require that Stevens immediately give up his committee chairs or "ranking member" status that gives him privileges in controlling most Senate business:

Per Republican Senate caucus rules, if a member is indicted, he or she can no longer serve as chairman or ranking member of a committee.

Stevens is a ranking member of the Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee.

Indictments should be a lot more common for that gang of crooks.

Many people, regardless of their "party" or lack thereof, are fiscally conservative

Every time I hear someone say my fellow Americans are fiscally conservative I get a good laugh out of it. You must have missed out on the whole mortgage crisis and the fact that 43% of Americans spend more than they make thus continuing their slide into debt and eventual bankruptcy.

America is such a fiscally conservative country that we bailout banks to the tune of 25 billion dollars , repeatedly bailed out airlines for a couple of dozen billion every couple of decades, bailed out S&L associations costing the American taxpayer another 124 billion, subsidize the agricultural industry at 16 billion dollars a year.

I could make this even worse by mentioning the costs of needlessly invading Iraq in search of WMD or talk about all the wonderful pork projects and "terror funding" that gets wasted but there are people who have written books on the subject and detail this much better than I ever could.

and again they just copy others... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20502777/wid/11915829&GT1=10252

save your prayers for your enemies... i hear they do more harm then good...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12082681/

"........a *much* higher rate of return than prison. I'm not saying we should keep murderers out of prison, but unarmed robbery?"

agreed. Let the punishment fit the crime. The guy's crime is he sat at a PC and sent out unsolicited emails, he shouldn't be in the same jail as a murderer or rapist or any violent offender.

but the guy should have ran. "His bank account deposits from 2003 to 2006 totaled $3.5 million". He had plenty of cash, he could have escaped to some little south american country and became a hermit and no one would have bothered searching for a non-violent (until now) convicted spammer with a 21 month sentence to serve.

A don't tell me he couldn't cross the border because illegal immigrants do it all the time.

Fugitive spammer dies in murder-suicide

Memphis Police to Use "Amnesia-like" Injection in Lieu of Taser

MSNBC | "The drug has an amnesia effect... one of the nice ways to take care of the discomfort is to make people forget that they've had it," said biomedical ethics and law enforcement expert Dr. Steven Miles.
Read article...

http://www.infowars.com/?p=3351
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25631432/from/ET/

http://roboeco.com/resat

5.1 million dollars if I remember right, according to the US government.

It Depends.

If you're being poisoned by air pollution, it's $6.1 million dollars (down from $8 million in 2000) but if a company is dumping poison in your water supply, it's $8.8 million dollars. If you need to know how much more to pay for little rubber caps to make your Pinto not explode, the DoT suggests $5.8 million, but starting this year wants everyone to analyze their work at $3.2 and $8.4 million, just to be sure. $5.8 million is also used by the FAA.

Laura Taylor of North Carolina State University, said her figure was lower because it emphasized differences in pay for various risky jobs, not just risky industries as a whole.[emphasis mine]

Anyone have a link to the actual study? I've found all sorts of people pontificating on whether it's done right or even the right thing to do, but not the study itself. I'm interested in knowing whether these "various" risky jobs included illegal immigrants in jobs like meatpacking or whether certain very dangerous and well-paying jobs were left out (surely an accidental oversight), similar to how energy and food costs are too "volatile" (read: embarrassing) to consider in inflation.

so many scientists poopoo science journalism as if it is supposed to get the facts right and be as involved as if it were a rigorous journal, and as if it is supposed to instill a sense of wonder or reverence for the subject matter. no. its a bit of fluff, a blurb.

Yeah, who am I to suggest that journalists should get facts right or write about subjects that are important, instead of fluff?

I'm not asking for a peer reviewed article here, only that they do a basic amount of research before deciding to write about a subject. You know, the kind that any decent journalist would do when writing about any subject. I can, and do, hold the same standards toward regular journalists, which is why I find crap like this to be just as offensive. Part of reporting is knowing what is and isn't news, and since they couldn't take the required three seconds to find out that cooling magnets down to 1.9K isn't news, I'm going to call them out on it. Sorry if my 'ridiculous standards' bother you so much. Since they make you so angry, maybe you shouldn't read them anymore. Here's some more 'high-quality' scientific journalism instead.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/Advice/YourRealTaxRate40.aspx

Good point.

With Yahoo the shareholders are throwing their weight around of course with Icahn at the helm they will likely toss their CEO out really soon.

But other companies its really hard to fire a CEO because the CEO picks the board of directors who in return elect the CEO. Fannie May's CEO just made $19 million in bonuses and they are about to go bankrupt. If I were a shareholder I would be calling murder and trying to get rid of this guy too. Maybe even suing him for fraudelent loans (if I were wealthy enough).

Perhaps the shareholders should have more of a say with the board of directors and CEO compensation. Someone at the board I assume would lose his or her job and friends if they did not vote for an increase in their boss performance. MEantime the CEO can give the director a performance cut back. ITs corruption fair and simple.

But AMD's board did the right thing in firing the CEO. As a shareholder I would elect a whole new board and not hire this clown either. 1.2 billion in losses is pretty incompentent.

I see you have never had a boss who wanted to take out all the "time wasters", leaving you with a minimal system, who wanted all the games, paint, and other things out of a Windows system. Many bosses are like that.

Windows XP Pro supported that kind of customization. Are you saying that Vista does not? Then why are there instructions for doing it? http://zone.msn.com/en/support/article/support3115.htm

Hmmm... I wonder if anyone has won just such a Nobel Prize recently.

and the line of blather you're pushing is pretty damn far off the mark

Is it?

http://www.exyoung.com/Journalism/WindFarm.htm
http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080710/NEWS02/807100355/1003/NEWS02
http://www.redorbit.com/news/business/1434788/wind_farm_project_could_double_in_size_developers_expect_to/
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/story?id=48596
http://www.iberianature.com/spainblog/2008/06/wind-farm-construction-in-capercaillie-habitat-paralysed-by-judge/
http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=16203
http://www.wind-watch.org/news/2007/12/31/wind-farm-plans-pose-big-threat-to-harbour-porpoise/
http://renewableenergylaw.blogspot.com/2005/02/kansas-wind-farm-faces-another-lawsuit.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/apr/22/windpower.greenpolitics?gusrc=rss&feed=uknews
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6875711/

I'm not even trying hard. Just put

court halt "wind farm"

into Google. No FOX News involved. And no, these aren't the NIMBY cases; I skipped those. These are enviro's killing wind development over "rare grasslands", various birds, etc.

The evidence for the intolerence of "all the greens" for basically any development at all, including so-called "renewable" energy is obvious. Pull your greeny head our of your ass and pay attention.

Yeah, those stupid children. It was just the other day that I was making fun of an 8-year-old and made him cry. What a stupid crybaby living on borrowed time. And it's not like anyone would predict that an alcoholic would die or kill others. That never happens. This may seem callous but the world is just filled with a bunch of distorted people.

But seriously now, I was the subject of an elaborate smear campaign when I was in my teens and that kind of stuff can really screw with the mind of a teenager. I guess I was lucky there wasn't a monstrously evil webpage called myspace back then, as it seems that over the internet it's far easier to seduce and manipulate people.

This is about the girl who committed suicide.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24670474/

And I agree. I think they should have taken a different angle in the prosecution.

Decimation is a loss of 10% when dealing with soldiers. Otherwise it has several other meanings. At this point the use of the word to mean what the GP said is the predominating definition and will be the definition in the future.

http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861603101/decimate.html

Not the best source, but I was too lazy to look for something better. Definition 2 would be the most common use of the word.

From the United States' perspective, the United States' military perspective, in particular, opening up a third front right now would be extremely stressful on us, Mullen told reporters.

Of course one could consider the US Military involvement on Iran's boarder with Iraq, and th US Military involvement on Iran's boarder with Afghanistan as setiing up a classic pincher offense to finally deliver a coup de grass onto a nation that took great delight in seizing our embassy and holding our diplomats hostage only a few short decades ago.

When the military agrees, the idea that we should not try diplomacy seems odd.

"This is a very unstable part of the world, and I don't need it to be more unstable," said the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Michael Mullen.

He added pointedly, "we haven't had much of a dialogue with the Iranians for a long time,"

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Seriously, you would not believe how often accountants hear 'laypeople' talk about how much of a 'scam' charitable donations are for the rich. It is a popular meme that just will not die, mores the pity.

Funny, the head of the IRS disagrees with them.

Oh sure and the US Patriot Act was only for terrorists. It'd never be used improperly or wrongly