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Oh wait, you said popular console.

Here's another one, and another

I want a backwards compatible gameboy advance with 4x the CPU/GPU power and a 640x480 screen. Same footprint.

I love my gameboy advance. Higher resolution and cpu power would let it do it's main job for me better - act as an emulator. And hey, the regular games would be better too :)

Really, these are all just nit picks. GBA games are great as they are. With the gameboy player I can play gba games on my TV, and it's surprising how good quality they are from a graphics and gameplay experience.

I'm just not seeing the need for a more advanced handheld system. The PSP is clunky. The DS is, unnecessary. I won't buy either of them.

It really shouldn't be that well known, because it's not true.

DS users will be able to connect with a local wireless network of up to 16 players. Nintendo's guaranteed range is 30 feet, but will extend far beyond that depending on circumstances. It assures high response rates required for real time game play, and will make use of both IEEE 802.11 and Nintendo's proprietary communication protocol, which provides low battery consumption.

Source: Nintendo. Emphasis: mine.

regarding ESRB and putting specifics on the box:

I think they already do. Or at least some game makers take the additional step to do so. Checking out the ESRB rating for Warcraft III (bottom of page), you'll note it got a T for blood and violence. Checking out the ESRB for Metroid Prime, and it's a T but no mention of specifics. So there are some thorough developers/publishers and some not so thorough developers/publishers. (To Nintendo's credit, when you try to access any game with T or higher rating on their website, a warning will pop letting you know the rating and asking if you want to continue.)

What will happen is Lieberman and other congress-types will hold more hearings and eventually the ESRB will cave and be forced to enforce their ratings both at the publisher side (i.e., more acting like Blizzard) and at the retail side (i.e., don't sell the M games to children). Hopefully, it won't make it fully into the realm of regulation. (both the music and movie industries averted that, no? I know the MPAA rating system is voluntary, and I presume the parental warning stickers on albums were a self-regulated thing, rather than a governmental mandate)

About 6 years old.
http://www.nintendo.com/systemsclassic?type=gbc

There are lots of games out there which don't fit into the classic categories, but the company that I think make the biggest effort with new game play rather than better graphics is Nintendo. Games like Lougie's Mansion, Pikmin and to be titles like Jungle Beat are (will) be great fun to play, because they're different. I'm not saying Halo 2 or Doom 3 will be bad, just that it's more of the same. Think of how they could be made more original, see what Nintendo did to beat 'em ups with Smash Brothers. That is still the most fun I've had with friends in front of any kind of computer.

There are lots of games out there which don't fit into the classic categories, but the company that I think make the biggest effort with new game play rather than better graphics is Nintendo. Games like Lougie's Mansion, Pikmin and to be titles like Jungle Beat are (will) be great fun to play, because they're different. I'm not saying Halo 2 or Doom 3 will be bad, just that it's more of the same. Think of how they could be made more original, see what Nintendo did to beat 'em ups with Smash Brothers. That is still the most fun I've had with friends in front of any kind of computer.

You can have your Halo2. Link fucking owns. =P

You can have your Halo2. Link fucking owns. =P

You can have your Halo2. Link fucking owns. =P

A previous poster linked the movie for the new Metroid Prime... it doesn't look like much of a departure from the other GameCube Metroid, which in my opinion is probably a good thing. I can't think of too many ways they could improve on Metroid Prime.

You realize that this looks absolutely nothing like this , right? The original Zelda, compared to RPGs of the time, had a cartoon look, and there was also a popular cartoon made out of the video game. Wild Walker definitely looks different than the original Zelda, but is more true than the new screenshots.

What about the Metroid Prime 2: Echoes quicktime movie?

Starfox quicktime movie?

Advance Wars: Under Fire screens?

DS high res renders?

WarioWare DS & Super Mario 64x4 screens? Metroid Prime: Hunters & PictoChat screens?

EToychest... Good times.

What about the Metroid Prime 2: Echoes quicktime movie?

Starfox quicktime movie?

Advance Wars: Under Fire screens?

DS high res renders?

WarioWare DS & Super Mario 64x4 screens? Metroid Prime: Hunters & PictoChat screens?

EToychest... Good times.

Oddly enough, Nintendo of America's website has now been updated with the DS shots. While I'm a little hazy about choosing top or bottom screen in different games as the main screen, it is official Nintendo info.

Nintendo DS

Alas, their own website is getting hit pretty hard at the moment too.

WarioWare, Inc. DS: One screen isn't big enough to contain Wario's greed and ego. He appears on the top screen and drops boxes to the bottom one, where they open an assortment of wild mini-games. Use the stylus and touch screen to drag a net and catch some fish, or to cut a rope to drop a cage around a duck. Players might have to erase or draw pictures, or slice at food that gets thrown at them. Finish as many mini-games in 35 seconds as possible. The game features the same good humor and fast pace that are hallmarks of the WarioWare franchise.

Super Mario 64x4: The landscape and the characters all look familiar. This is the opening castle area of Super Mario 64, only with a few DS twists thrown in. Up to four players can link up using the wireless capabilities. Players move familiar characters like Mario, Luigi, Yoshi and Wario around the 3-D landscape, exploring and looking for stars. While one screen shows the player's character position, the other provides an overall map of the area. Touch a spot on the screen to pop the camera over to another player's position, or to take a close-up look at the castle.

Metroid Prime: Hunters: This amazing first-person battle game uses wireless technology to connect up to four players simultaneously (in the E3 demo version). Each player gets a Metroid suit of a different color, and then tries to destroy the three opponents. Touch the stylus to the bottom screen to rotate the camera, aim and fire, or to transform into a Morph Ball. The game features the same artwork, sound, graphics, architecture and ambience found in the huge hit Metroid Prime.

PictoChat: Up to 16 players (two in the E3 demo version) can use the wireless functions to link together and exchange instant messages or drawings. The bottom screen shows a standard keyboard, while instant messages from other users appear in the top screen. Players can type text messages using the keyboard, use the stylus to send messages in their own handwriting or simply draw and transmit a picture. If another user sends a picture, the recipient can modify it and send it back. Play a game of wireless virtual hangman or send covert messages to other users.

Or maybe it depends on more than just the best games... like actually bothering to advertise and get gamers' attentions in the places gamers go.

Would you like your foot shaken or stirred? :-)

The evil triple necked trouser snake beast!

Have you guys checked out Duncan's logo? It looks like Nintendo's, or the other way around.

Mario, get ready. You have a new foe to face... :-D

While that law may be based on real things on some level, I do not believe it to be true, and I can assure you that the ESA (formerly the IDSA) regularly sends out DMCA notices to remove ROM sites, just as MediaDefender does for other media.

I certainly cannot corroborate the bit about NOA ever giving some kind of 24 hour exemption. If anything, they have invented new restrictions I am unable to verify from copyright law (of course, I must confess that I have not read all of it, it is incredibly long, complex, and I'm probably missing most of the important case law, anyhow, since I don't have WestLaw or any of the other tools needed for proper legal research).

You can see the legal section of ConsoleClassix for some information concerning ROMs (they actually got their info from a real lawyer), but I'm a bit more leery of Nintendo's legal section, as they don't bother to give me references so that I can actually trace down some of the rules they've listed, such as that, to paraphrase, 'game copying devices are illegal AS WELL AS any backup copies made via them, even if they're used as backup copies under USC 117.'

Mind you, I did try to ask legal@nintendo.com exactly how one might exercise their right to make backup copies in light of that. They declined to respond.

If anyone is wondering, funny modifier aside, I was being serious.

Enjoy.

These should be, like, all on one cartridge.

No kidding.

If I can get All four of the NES and SNES Zelda games on a single Gamecube disc for $20, how can they sell individual NES games for $20 each and keep a straight face?

Sure, it's fun to lug computers over to someone's house for a weekend and play LAN games. But if you have a couple hours to kill before going out for the evening, doing a bit of Crystal Chronicles with your friends is much more preferable. Yes, you need a GBA for every person, but believe me, it's worth it. I've actually saved money by buying this and all the needed equipment, since we'll choose to "Chron" instead of go out to the bar.

For us, short notice multiplayer is where it's at on consoles. Planned, weekend multiplayer gaming sessions is where it's at on the PC.

You can still get it here. The only thing is that the disc is on back order so it may take a few weeks extra, but you'll get it eventually for much cheaper than anyone on E-Bay is getting it for.

5. He might be right here. I already have home theater stuff. I want a game console to play games. I don't need a jack of all trades, master of none. That's why I expect a minicrash when these All In One systems fail to sell.

Although there is at least ONE company that is selling "just" game systems, and is being drug through the mud in the media for it... The problem seems to be that media pundits just pay attention to graphics and sales... If you look at history, the Genesis beat the SNES through most of that life-cycle on sales and yet Sega's now a third party developer while Nintendo has remained *very* stable and solvent. There probably will be something of a "crash" in the near future (I keep lamenting that there's nothing to rent with every visit to Hollywood Video/Blockbuster) but nothing of the company-destroying level we saw in the 80s.

It's clear that they are pointing this patent at their airline business ("e.g., a seat-back display for airline") and if you look at one patent they site McCarten its clear that they have been doing this for a long time.

Seems Nintendo has a whole nother world the rest of us never see.

• (And, I hope, a great backlight for laptops.)

The Virtual Boy.

Nuff said. ;)

Tell me about it.

All we've got coming out is "a full-fledged RPG that takes place in an amazing region unlike anything you've ever seen in the Pokemon world. And if that's not enough to get you excited, Pokemon Colosseum also features a Battle Mode which lets you watch your favorite Pokemon battle in full 3D.

You can read more here

Well, we can look at this a couple of different ways.

First, my statement can be taken literally. Xbox has the smallest number of games marketed towards kids, because it has the smallest number of games total (comparing all 3 consoles). Gamecube has approx 400, while Xbox has 'over 300'. Playstation has many more than that, I do not know the number.

Second, once again really only comparing Xbox and Gamecube, you can look at the ESRB ratings of the games for each system.

Xbox list

Gamecube list

I did not include Playstation, because I wasn't going to look through the sheer volume of games there, to get a percentage. You can figure it out yourself.

So, in sheer numbers, Xbox has the smallest number of games marketed towards kids. Also, when comparing the ESRB ratings, once again, Xbox has the smallest number of games marketed towards kids.

Now, pretty soon you should learn how to look up facts for yourself. It is difficult being an educated person, when you need other people to do all of the research for you. Or, even better- when something is a generally known fact, sometimes it is okay to just accept it, rather than being a pain in the ass and demanding proof.

"Market saturation" I think that you can.


Sorry to troll but gamecube is way better anyway.
Don't beleive me? Compare yourself:
Nintendo
xbox The only real plus is the internal drive makes things convenient.

But at $5 for a memory card for GC it's not that big of an issue. Besides that, Zelda's wind waker is worth it anyway. ;-)

Nintendo has broadband (Ethernet) adapters for sale here at their online store. They don't have them listed as backordered like some of their other items so they should be in stock.

For anyone who is thinking that the GC is useless running Linux without a hard drive, I would like to point out the SD flash RAM adapter and Mini DVD-R discs. While these aren't necessarily supported by the project at the moment, it's not too big of a stretch to imagine that they may be.

Nintendo has broadband (Ethernet) adapters for sale here at their online store. They don't have them listed as backordered like some of their other items so they should be in stock.

For anyone who is thinking that the GC is useless running Linux without a hard drive, I would like to point out the SD flash RAM adapter and Mini DVD-R discs. While these aren't necessarily supported by the project at the moment, it's not too big of a stretch to imagine that they may be.

Like Sexy Pants said here "...though this looks like an obvious bomb, I want to support them all the way."

Nintendo has always seemed to me to have the most innovative (not necessarily original) products of any console company and I've been a supporter since I picked up the first issue of Nintendo Power magazine (which IMHO sucks now). I had a Virtual Boy. It was fun, but there weren't many games available, and of course only some of the games were fun. I remember loving Mario Tennis. Maybe I'll buy one of these, but I doubt it. I've done my part in this lot by talking my parents into buying me a Virtual Boy. For me to consider purchasing a DS, I'll at least have to see some good games released, and some sort of acceptance from the gaming public in the form of them buying the damned thing.
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We've already been discussing all of this in the thread linked above, but the technical specs released give me a little hope. The fact that it's backlit is a huge plus, every frontlit device reminds me of the 3rd party clip on light I had for my original Game Boy... such crap. I also like the idea of the screens being in a vertical positio. I was having trouble imagining cool possibilities horizontally: with this being a handheld device, and presumably folding in some way as it's meant to be small, I was imagining a screen folding out horizontally and it was obviously a very awkward idea. I'm dissapointed that Nintendo didn't mention, as the article points out, "...the clock speed of either CPU, however, which would provide a clearer picture of the system's processing power and battery consumption." That would be nice to know :D

This MAY turn out to be a fun system and/or commercial success, most likely it will flop, but it's certainly a cool idea, and my hat goes off to Nintendo for another innovation. Actually I lost my hat- proves my worthlessness, mod appropriately.

There's an even BETTER way...
Nintendo has a deal where you can subscribe to Nintendo Power for 20 bucks, and get a free Gamecube disc with the Zelda I and II for the NES, and the two N64 Zelda games. (Link goes straight to the deal)

Or you could just buy the new Gamecubes that come with it I guess.

According to Nintendo, the only reason you're allowed to have a backup is so you have it if your original copy is destroyed. You are not allowed to download and use a rom unless you own it and the original has been destroyed. It's as simple as that.

Because those guys over at Nintendo sure as hell never really had marketshare. They only made Gameboy long enough for kids to get the hang of a d-pad and buttons, so that they'be be ready for the Playstation controller.

There never is a vacuum in the video game power, except for that time in 1983 when Atari let the market down. You don't just waltz in and take the reins, you work your way into the market with a product that is chosen by consumers!

How is this flamebait if its true?

Taken from their own website

The hardware warranty is 90 days from the date of purchase.

If your system was purchased from PlayStation.com and arrived damaged or defective, you may return it to PlayStation.com for a refund or replacement under our normal return policy, provided that you return the product within thirty days from the ship date on your invoice.

If you did not buy your product from us, check the return policies of the retailer from which you purchased your PlayStation product. If the return policy has expired, you will need to send your unit to a Sony Service Center (follow the "Obtaining Service" instructions below).


Nintendo systems carry a twelve-month warranty. no matter where you buy it.

The classic story of the railroad tycoons who didn't realize that they were actually transportation tycoons is all well and good but Nintendo does not have the same problem.

According to the COmpany History, Nintendo is over 100 years old. They started out making playing cards. Read the history on that link. It shows them going through a few different changes. The important common factor? Nintendo has always made games.

That's right. Nintendo is not a console company and it's not a video game company and it's not an entertainment company. It's a game company. They make games. They have been making games for over 100 years. I think that we can all agree that "making games" is a pretty broad understanding of what the company does.

Myopia, indeed.

It was announced today that IBM will be making processors for Nintendo's next generation console. So that means IBM will be involved in developing the processors for all 3 next-gen consoles. Sony obviously has its own thing with the Cell processor, but what about Nintendo and Microsoft. Is it possible that they have basically decided to team up (against Sony)? It is possible that they will both use a PowerPC-type processor on their next console, as well as an ATI graphics core. Could it be that a) they are going to develop one XBox/Nintendo console, or b) that they will make their hardware so similar that porting a game from one to the other would be child's play? Option a) seems very intriguing to me. There would be no question that I would get the XBox/Nintendo console over the PS3-- especially if I could play both Gamecube and XBox games on it.

Also, in an interview with Denis Dyack of Silicon Knights, he said "...it wouldn't surprise me if sometime in the future there is a collaboration [between console makers]. It doesn't mean that there's a less-competitive environment, but it would mean that everyone could worry about making good content instead of the technology. And I think that would be a huge positive shift for our industry." Denis Dyack is very close with Shigeru Miyamoto, and is likely to have some insight and input on Nintendo's plans for the next generation.

What does everybody else think?

You're missing one of the best ones - Eternal Darkness. It's got great artwork (I particularly liked the friezes in the ancient temple area), a Lovecraft-based plot, and the unique magic and sanity systems for good gameplay. It didn't sell too well, though, so you can often pick it up for $20 or so (even cheaper if you buy it used).

• Sonic Mega Collection includes all the 16-bit Sonic games plus a few nifty extras and bonuses, such as Ristar and some history of the blue hedgehog. It retails for $40. Keep in mind that's for Sonic 1, 2, 3, Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic 3 + Knuckles, Sonic 2 + Knuckles, Sonic Spinball, Sonic 3D Blast, Mean Bean Machine, Flicky, and Ristar. That's a great deal if you missed out on these games the first time around. They're aged very well.
• $40 also picked up a port of the first Sonic Adventure title for the Dreamcast, now upgraded to Sonic Adventure DX. It also includes all the Sonic games for the Game Gear as hidden unlockables. The port's a little rough around the edges, but it's still a great buy if you missed out on it the first time around.
• Part of the Player's Choice series includes Sega's port of Sonic Adventure 2, now redone as Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. This one costs only $30 and includes some multiplayer enhancements that weren't present in the original Dreamcast version.

Happy shopping and happy holidays!

• Sonic Mega Collection includes all the 16-bit Sonic games plus a few nifty extras and bonuses, such as Ristar and some history of the blue hedgehog. It retails for $40. Keep in mind that's for Sonic 1, 2, 3, Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic 3 + Knuckles, Sonic 2 + Knuckles, Sonic Spinball, Sonic 3D Blast, Mean Bean Machine, Flicky, and Ristar. That's a great deal if you missed out on these games the first time around. They're aged very well.
• $40 also picked up a port of the first Sonic Adventure title for the Dreamcast, now upgraded to Sonic Adventure DX. It also includes all the Sonic games for the Game Gear as hidden unlockables. The port's a little rough around the edges, but it's still a great buy if you missed out on it the first time around.
• Part of the Player's Choice series includes Sega's port of Sonic Adventure 2, now redone as Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. This one costs only $30 and includes some multiplayer enhancements that weren't present in the original Dreamcast version.

Happy shopping and happy holidays!

• Sonic Mega Collection includes all the 16-bit Sonic games plus a few nifty extras and bonuses, such as Ristar and some history of the blue hedgehog. It retails for $40. Keep in mind that's for Sonic 1, 2, 3, Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic 3 + Knuckles, Sonic 2 + Knuckles, Sonic Spinball, Sonic 3D Blast, Mean Bean Machine, Flicky, and Ristar. That's a great deal if you missed out on these games the first time around. They're aged very well.
• $40 also picked up a port of the first Sonic Adventure title for the Dreamcast, now upgraded to Sonic Adventure DX. It also includes all the Sonic games for the Game Gear as hidden unlockables. The port's a little rough around the edges, but it's still a great buy if you missed out on it the first time around.
• Part of the Player's Choice series includes Sega's port of Sonic Adventure 2, now redone as Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. This one costs only $30 and includes some multiplayer enhancements that weren't present in the original Dreamcast version.

Happy shopping and happy holidays!

• Sonic Mega Collection includes all the 16-bit Sonic games plus a few nifty extras and bonuses, such as Ristar and some history of the blue hedgehog. It retails for $40. Keep in mind that's for Sonic 1, 2, 3, Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic 3 + Knuckles, Sonic 2 + Knuckles, Sonic Spinball, Sonic 3D Blast, Mean Bean Machine, Flicky, and Ristar. That's a great deal if you missed out on these games the first time around. They're aged very well.
• $40 also picked up a port of the first Sonic Adventure title for the Dreamcast, now upgraded to Sonic Adventure DX. It also includes all the Sonic games for the Game Gear as hidden unlockables. The port's a little rough around the edges, but it's still a great buy if you missed out on it the first time around.
• Part of the Player's Choice series includes Sega's port of Sonic Adventure 2, now redone as Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. This one costs only $30 and includes some multiplayer enhancements that weren't present in the original Dreamcast version.

Happy shopping and happy holidays!

• Sonic Mega Collection includes all the 16-bit Sonic games plus a few nifty extras and bonuses, such as Ristar and some history of the blue hedgehog. It retails for $40. Keep in mind that's for Sonic 1, 2, 3, Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic 3 + Knuckles, Sonic 2 + Knuckles, Sonic Spinball, Sonic 3D Blast, Mean Bean Machine, Flicky, and Ristar. That's a great deal if you missed out on these games the first time around. They're aged very well.
• $40 also picked up a port of the first Sonic Adventure title for the Dreamcast, now upgraded to Sonic Adventure DX. It also includes all the Sonic games for the Game Gear as hidden unlockables. The port's a little rough around the edges, but it's still a great buy if you missed out on it the first time around.
• Part of the Player's Choice series includes Sega's port of Sonic Adventure 2, now redone as Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. This one costs only $30 and includes some multiplayer enhancements that weren't present in the original Dreamcast version.

Happy shopping and happy holidays!

• Sonic Mega Collection includes all the 16-bit Sonic games plus a few nifty extras and bonuses, such as Ristar and some history of the blue hedgehog. It retails for $40. Keep in mind that's for Sonic 1, 2, 3, Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic 3 + Knuckles, Sonic 2 + Knuckles, Sonic Spinball, Sonic 3D Blast, Mean Bean Machine, Flicky, and Ristar. That's a great deal if you missed out on these games the first time around. They're aged very well.
• $40 also picked up a port of the first Sonic Adventure title for the Dreamcast, now upgraded to Sonic Adventure DX. It also includes all the Sonic games for the Game Gear as hidden unlockables. The port's a little rough around the edges, but it's still a great buy if you missed out on it the first time around.
• Part of the Player's Choice series includes Sega's port of Sonic Adventure 2, now redone as Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. This one costs only $30 and includes some multiplayer enhancements that weren't present in the original Dreamcast version.

Happy shopping and happy holidays!

• Sonic Mega Collection includes all the 16-bit Sonic games plus a few nifty extras and bonuses, such as Ristar and some history of the blue hedgehog. It retails for $40. Keep in mind that's for Sonic 1, 2, 3, Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic 3 + Knuckles, Sonic 2 + Knuckles, Sonic Spinball, Sonic 3D Blast, Mean Bean Machine, Flicky, and Ristar. That's a great deal if you missed out on these games the first time around. They're aged very well.
• $40 also picked up a port of the first Sonic Adventure title for the Dreamcast, now upgraded to Sonic Adventure DX. It also includes all the Sonic games for the Game Gear as hidden unlockables. The port's a little rough around the edges, but it's still a great buy if you missed out on it the first time around.
• Part of the Player's Choice series includes Sega's port of Sonic Adventure 2, now redone as Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. This one costs only $30 and includes some multiplayer enhancements that weren't present in the original Dreamcast version.

Happy shopping and happy holidays!

• Sonic Mega Collection includes all the 16-bit Sonic games plus a few nifty extras and bonuses, such as Ristar and some history of the blue hedgehog. It retails for $40. Keep in mind that's for Sonic 1, 2, 3, Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic 3 + Knuckles, Sonic 2 + Knuckles, Sonic Spinball, Sonic 3D Blast, Mean Bean Machine, Flicky, and Ristar. That's a great deal if you missed out on these games the first time around. They're aged very well.
• $40 also picked up a port of the first Sonic Adventure title for the Dreamcast, now upgraded to Sonic Adventure DX. It also includes all the Sonic games for the Game Gear as hidden unlockables. The port's a little rough around the edges, but it's still a great buy if you missed out on it the first time around.
• Part of the Player's Choice series includes Sega's port of Sonic Adventure 2, now redone as Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. This one costs only $30 and includes some multiplayer enhancements that weren't present in the original Dreamcast version.

Happy shopping and happy holidays!