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And, as mentioned in their news for the comic, this itself is old news. They've since taken up the cause of promoting a Irish lad who has been waiting in line for Turok 2. Why? Only the boy himself could know, apparantly. :^)

Ryan Fenton

2) Cost. I cannot aford a Mac. I wish I enough money to buy one. I do not resent the people can because they have this much money, nor am I particularly impressed that you have that much money. I do not hate you because you own a Mac, please do not look down on me because I don't.

Mac people look down on someone? Nahh :-)

The current Apple advertising campaign has been characterized by some as a bad way to get converts because of its negative tone. Many of those who have weighed in on the ads characterize the ads as "preaching to the choir". Frankly, the campaign has actually engendered a backlash against Apple as typified by the mocking found in this recent cartoon.

Actually, the current Apple advertising campaign has been characterized as a bad way to get converts. The analysts who have weighed in on the issue characterize the ads as "preaching to the choir". Quite frankly, the campaign has actually engendered a backlash against Apple as typified by the mocking found in this recent cartoon.

Actually, the current Apple advertising campaign has been characterized as a bad way to get converts. The analysts who have weighed in on the issue characterize the ads as "preaching to the choir". Quite frankly, the campaign has actually engendered a backlack against Apple as typified by the mocking found in this recent cartoon.

And as if other forms of advocacy were so wonderful, such as this bit of Apple advocacy.

great company, great computers... they just don't have a clue about advertising successfully.

The Apple Guy speaks out.

The Apple Guy speaks out.

The Apple Guy speaks out.

Yeah, but the difference of the area of two circles in relative terms is (r2 - r1)^2, not (r2 - r1)^2 * pi.

I think I need a new sig:
Don't be an elitist asshole. You're just going to look like an idiot.

This is a claim, not a fact.

2) Do you really want me to list all the things KDE/Linux does wrong or rather the ways they have to go to reach OS X level of ease of use ( hah...I can hear your blood boiling from here)?

Again, no fact, just an ignorant statement.

I could go on

Baseless claims and ignorance.

Yes, I believe you could go on with that.

Public image of Mac-users

I posted a link to several problems of the MacOS UI.

about having a CONCISTENT interface being a number one priority. But I'll leave you with just one example: Font-handling.

KDE is very consistent. Much more than the mix of MacOSX apps with MacOS9 apps and completele inconsistent designs like Quicktime thrown in.

Regarding fonts, I happily use those who came with my distribution, what's wrong with that? And yes, they include ø and æ.

If the Norwegian government needs some fancy font, I think the Linux-distributor of their choice will happily include these fonts in the install.

Transparency, a mouse optimized for beauty and huge pictures instead of icons slow down productivity. Yes, when you first use a Mac, it's a nice experience, but half an hour later, all the eye-candy just gets into the way.

"What would be much more insteresting is if they start using MPEG-4 as the "default" codec instead of sorenson (e.g. on apple.com/trailers)"

Err, that's the plan... you fucking moron!

Expect to see Steve Jobs' keynote streaming in MPEG4 goodness, where he'll annouce iTunes 3, which will allow us Macintosh users to also listen to MPEG4 audio (AAC) on our iPods.

Once again, we're ahead of the curve in the world of multimedia. Once again, we're a couple of years ahead of you. Yes, we're elitist fuckers, and happy about it!

(qualifying statement time)
On my network I run NT4 (2000 seem to dislike some GIS software) on the workstation and linux (redhat 6.2 interanlly, 7.X externally and Slack 8.1 for testing/speed on lower end boxes) and have been slightly vocal about what I'd like to see, personally.

People who do GIS where I work often lament about the lack of "long haul" stability of NT and pine (pun lightly intened) for the Unix days when a process of an entire state can and would run for days to complete w/o a worry.

That thought in mind, if OSX86 came out (or moved to Alpha/Power4) and could run the bulk of the heavy lifting in GIS you bet I'd be pointing out "this could be worlds better than what we have now".

Norway has it right; it is *not* about being against Microsoft, it is about choosing what is the best for the job. And between the decling of Dell's support and annoying NT4/win2k problems that only reformatting take care of, well I'd switch as a (ahem) "way out" because I believe the better product should win, not because I'm an elitest a**hole.

Everytime I hear about or see one of those comercials, I think of this comic :-)

What a joke, not only are they pushing it, they have annoying ads. I think that THIS comic sums it up really well.

RonB

It's a fun comic at any rate... check out the not-so-subtle point about the xbox controllers!

It's a fun comic at any rate... check out the not-so-subtle point about the xbox controllers!

dpkg never had this problem.

Don't be an elitist asshole. If you don't understand what the problem really is, don't comment on it.

This problem has nothing to do with rpm. The problem that Red Hat advertises WRT Ximian is that an upgrade may not upgrade all of the GNOME packages, since Ximian's may be newer (and this is the correct behavior, according to any packager). However, because some packages may be updated, and others may not, you don't have a tested, known-stable GNOME platform. dpkg and apt don't do anything special that prevents that from happening.

Actually, I think that this hat is more appropriate.

I got a new hat.

The homosexual factor is waaaaaay below standard Mac rating.
Cellphone-using yuppie fags demand only the best!

I don't know any mac users but JUST in case.

Today's Penny Arcade comic pretty much sums up this argument.

And, as my Java-guru brother once thoughtfully opined: Mac vs. PC, Sun vs. M$...they're all Borgs with crap for us to purchase.

For those of you who don't read PA regularly, http://www.penny-arcade.com/view2002-07-12rh.html

For those of you who don't read PA regularly, http://www.penny-arcade.com/view2002-07-12rh.html

Hey, you know what, just because of this kind of stuff, I'd rather stick with PCs than go with a Mac. Macs are overpriced. Those with money or think they have money, or don't have the money and still want to be an elitist snob are many of the people who buy Macs (ok, so I'm generalizing, but so is saying that Mac buyers are more educated. Correlation!=Causation - Just because statistically speaking, Mac users have better education, doesn't mean the more education you have, the more likely you are to buy a Mac)

I prefer to think that lower income families choose PCs because they are more affordable, and in the long-term, a better choice because more people in the world us PCs with Windows, and if they are betting their $1000 investment on a computer for their children, they'd choose one that more people use. Buying a Mac is more of a luxury for many people.

It's like buying a car. Would you rather buy a Mercedes/Lexus/name your luxury car, or would you rather buy a Honda/Hyudai/name your regular car? (Damn, I'm gonna catch hell for mentioning these makes like that). The answer is, of course, it depends on what you can afford. Of course we'd all like a better made, better looking, and possibly safer, but certainly more luxurious car, but can we afford it? How will we use it? Will we use it as a utility vehicle, doing all our errands, etc., or will we drive it around to show off?

So it is with the PC and Mac debate. If you want to show off, can afford it (I know, some models of the Macs are lower in price, but in general, PCs are more affordable), you can get a Mac. But for many, less educated people, the PC is a no-brainer.

Oh, also take a look at this

Penny-Arcade tells it best.

Switch.

This has to be Apple's dumbest advertising campaign yet... I pretty much agree with this assertion

I personally don't respond to low key insults very well when deciding on a computer platform :)

Ironically, what if this guy had been playing something like Rainbow 6 as his house was raided!

Penny Arcade had an interesting take on that idea a few weeks ago ;).

Looks like Penny Arcade is ahead of the curve =)

here

I wholeheartedly agree. Unfortunantly, the "general concensus" does not agree with you, as they've never played the game. (Despite it being released several times.)

Heck, even paid game reviewers who are big Star Wars fans haven't played it. I don't even think the famous Gabe has played it, nevermind all the other "kiddies" out there. Alas, even in it's newest re-release, it still doesn't have enough eye candy to draw in the younger generation. They'll just go on with their lives thinking Rogue Leader is the penultimate in Star Wars sims. Bleech.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view2002-07-01rl.html

Despite the fact that your comment got modded funny (I think YOUR post is the far from funny one ;), what makes you the absolute source of funny?

I happen to know that funny comes from special cows, not you.

Despite the fact that your comment got modded funny (I think YOUR post is the far from funny one ;), what makes you the absolute source of funny?

I happen to know that funny comes from special cows, not you.

Despite the fact that your comment got modded funny (I think YOUR post is the far from funny one ;), what makes you the absolute source of funny?

I happen to know that funny comes from special cows, not you.

Despite the fact that your comment got modded funny (I think YOUR post is the far from funny one ;), what makes you the absolute source of funny?

I happen to know that funny comes from special cows, not you.

Despite the fact that your comment got modded funny (I think YOUR post is the far from funny one ;), what makes you the absolute source of funny?

I happen to know that funny comes from special cows, not you.

John Romero...Mmmm she's HOT!

::sigh:: *^_^*

I've had too much user friendly! Now I crave some Penny Arcade! Great tech comic sites. :)

Somehow, mentioning this episode of Penny Arcade seems appropriate.

Don't you get it? Think about it.. the Army creates a computer game and releases it July 4 in an attempt to get good will with the 31337 QU4K3 D00dz..

This is just the same thing: the House of Representatives releases support and DTDs for an awesome, buzzword-compliant, flashy XML technology on July 4 in an attempt to get good will with the hacker nerds :)

A quick question: the url just talks about the House of Representatives. Will the Senate be using these as well? Why not? Wouldn't you think that Congress would want uniform reporting requirements between both houses?

Either way, Senate or no, newest-standards-compliance or not (be polite and maybe they'll even fix that), this is really, really, cool. Maybe this is a first step toward making it so that at times that the government wants you to submit electronic documents (for example, resumes, or comments during the public comment period of an antitrust trial) they will accept DocBook.

VOTE

-- super ugly ultraman

There is ONE type of product that M$ does well, and makes an honest living with - Input devices. This is the ONLY area where I've seen them actually innovate. (Mouse wheel, first company with an all-surface optical - The grid-pad opts from Sun don't count). As long as they stay far away from software, they're golden.

Perhaps you've never heard of the monstrosity called the xbox?

There is ONE type of product that M$ does well, and makes an honest living with - Input devices. This is the ONLY area where I've seen them actually innovate. (Mouse wheel, first company with an all-surface optical - The grid-pad opts from Sun don't count). As long as they stay far away from software, they're golden.

Perhaps you've never heard of the monstrosity called the xbox?

I think Penny Arcade said it best - back in 1999!

Once again, Penny-Arcade has beaten everyone to the punch. This is from way back: 2001-04-04

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2001-04 -04&res=l

I dunno, I'd say this pretty clearly outlines the most important reason that Magic online will suck.